Just ride what makes you happy. And, respect the other guy's ride to. From a 67 year old who owns a boring, gutless, overpriced NC750X. Cheers all, from New Zealand
Nothing wrong with your ride. I had one for 2 1/2 years as a daily rider and found it very practical and reliable. I’m pissed that in Australia they wouldn’t bring in the DCT. Fantastic city and suburb steed all be it on a budget build and plenty of km between fill ups. Michelin road 5 and a centre stand is all it needed
I just brought home yesterday , a new to me , Moto Guzzi 2018 V7 iii Milano ,with only 2350kms on the clock. I hope I can get some good kilometers ridden before the snow starts here in Canada . ( my first Guzzi)
Nice one! I'm sure you'll enjoy the Guzzi. I have one - also my first - a 2005 Breva 750, bought last year and now with almost 65,000 km up. In my 79th year and 64th of riding, the Guzzi puts a smile on my dial! 👍
@@RideaGoodRoadmy dad rode up to 2 months before his 80th birthday when he had an accident. If the bike hadn't been a write off, he was going to keep on riding.
New motorcycle prices are utterly ridiculous and the service costs are eye water so as a man in his 71 first year and never been without a motorbike I will keep downsizing as I will never give up my passion.... I remember in the mid 90s a large Honda dealership said they wouldn't take my pristine Triumph 900 Sprint or any Triumph as a trade in....
I'm in full agreement with your views, and I want to thank you I've recently bought a RE Classic 350 desert and I love it, I'm 60 now and have nothing to prove. I can just ride along enjoying the view. Many thanks David Australia
After owning & riding motorcycles for over 50 years , all I can say is , every time I have purchased other than a Japanese brand , I have suffered nightmare issues & unreliability . The Japanese brands I owned include bikes built in Japan , Thailand & China . Be they used or new bikes , I have never had one let me down ,or need other than normal fair wear & tear consumables needed to be replaced or serviced . It appears to me , that the question of reliability of the other brands, depends on luck of the draw on where the punter gets a reasonably reliable bike with few if any issues , or a total lemon & nightmare ownership experience .
Totally agree. Started in 64 with a Tiger Cub and after a few British bikes, bought a brand new Honda CB450, "Black Bomber"in 1968 - What a difference, utterly reliable and a pleasure to own . Only real let downs since then was a failed rectifier on my VFR 800, 20 years ago and after buying my then brand new Z1000 in 2005 the Datatool alarm failed 15 years later. I couldn't turn it off! - Removed it and no more probs. Same with cars. Bought a Honda Accord in 1990 and have only bought Jap cars ever since.
Agree on the reliability of Japanese bikes. I bought a new Honda CB450 in 1968 and haven't looked back since. I still have my 2005 Z1000. which will probably last me out. I reckon the loss of so many dealers is a reflection of not many youngsters taking up motorcycling plus our economy struggling at the moment. Hopefully it will improve.
@@rogerbarrett9920 I am not surprised that many youngsters tend to shy away from motorcycling these days . What with the ridiculous price of insurance & the fact it costs a kings ransom & a plethora of tests to gain full motorcycle licence . It’s a wonder even more dealers haven’t gone down the Swan-nee .
Absolutely - like many here, in over three decades of riding I’ve had all sorts of bikes, and my tastes changed through that time. I like motorcycles of all types, even if some of them might not tick the right boxes for me. If a person rides a machine and they like it, then that’s all that matters - feel their enthusiasm and ride that positive wave! Never understood this “I’m a fan of manufacturer X, and so will rabidly criticise everything else”… that’s just such juvenile nonsense. Let’s hope for all our sakes that the economic doldrums lift ASAP and we can get back to the lifestyle we love so much. Ride safe all, whatever your choice of steed
So true. I started riding in South Africa as a teenager and when I returned to the US at 20 yo, I was shocked at the tribalism of supposed adults trashing other people's choices. It was never a thing in SA or here in the Philippines where I am now.
There will always be those who blow out the candles of others, to see their own candle glow. Sadly, they don’t understand the warm illumination of many candles together. 🕯️
Thank you, Dave. I can't begin to tell you how welcome your balanced, considerate and reasonable approach is, at the moment. I, too, have watched the videos that you mention and have been left questioning the motives of the people making them or the people posting comments. I've tried to counter some of the extreme negativity, myself, suggesting that, perhaps there's another side to a story but the response is often combative. I remember something very clearly from my school days: the importance of putting together a convincing presentation, regardless of the topic.... If there are indisputable facts, then state the facts, with reference to your sources. If they're only your opinions, then acknowledge that..."In my opinion...." I get the impression that.... "I'm left wondering if...." Using such terms implies humility and leaves open the possibility that one could be wrong. Very rarely are the negative views couched in such terms, online. Personal opinions are posted as non-negotiable fact.
@@chriskay116 So very true. Bring back civility truth, and discussion without all the “butt-hurt” drama. So many drop the grace, strength of character, and dignity of manhood at the door.
I bought a V7 Stone last year. I really look after my bikes they are garaged and cleaned. I had an issue with the starting switch, a failed brake light switch, a jammed starter motor, paint flaking off the exhaust and discovered corrosion in the back wheel when doing a tyre change. I'm sure there are plenty of good Moto Guzzis out there but many also experienced the same faults as me. I don't want to see failure, I am gutted as I lost confidence in the bike and gone back to Suzuki taking a big financial hit on the trade in. I wanted a Guzzi since I was a kid 50 years ago so I am really disappointed in my experience
I've had numerous bikes in my 50 years of riding, most of them had slight issues but I've enjoyed them all. I currently have a 60's Norton Dominator, a 2021 Enfield Meteor and a BMW R1250R, they're all completely different. Do I care what folk think about them, do I Eck, I'm a biker, I'll ride anything and everything. There's nowt wrong with your bikes, keep up the good work.
The demise of the British motorcycling industry is based on just a few factors. 1. Cost to purchase the motorcycle new. 2. Cost to rig yourself with all of the fashionable protective gear 3. Cost of the premium to insure you, the bike and the general public. 4. Cost of servicing what are now, complicated pieces of equipment. Computers with wheels in essence, far too powerful for the majority of riders with scant regard for other road users, creating a negative view of those who ride responsibly. 5. Cost and complexity for newcomers to obtain their licence. 6. Unless you live in close proximity to wild country, riding no longer has the appeal of yesteryear. The concrete jungle has removed much of the freedom we once enjoyed. 7. The British weather, the 2024 summer has been a total disaster or the industry. 8. Traders on the High Street who are unable to provide a satisfactory level of service. The dealers closing at present will weed out the rubbish, those with a positive approach to business will survive and the industry will indeed benefit but as always it will not be the with the usual complacency to which we have been forcibly accustomed. The internet has killed the High Street, not just the motorcycle industry and that too will indeed throttle and choke itself eventually leaving the healthy the continue with increased prices to the consumer. The motorcycle is a luxury item and as I was told yesterday by a VW independant garage owner, many of his customers can afford the payments but have little spare funds to pay for maintenance. Watch the Chinese manufacturers, they are entering the market at the right time, fully dressed up motorcycles at budget prices to rock the sales of the big brands who have ruled the roost for too long….as did BSA, Norton, Triumph all those years ago. Sales will continue to decline over the next 6 months and more dealers will collapse, hold on to your hats (helmets) the storm has yet to arrive in full force. You don’t need to watch a series of bends with dialogue to understand what’s happening out there in the world of business, just read the papers….if you can afford one, they too are becoming cost prohibitive. Keep riding….the storm will blow over but if you think the bike tucked away in the garage will hold its value, you may be wrong.
Well said 👍bikes just are not appealing to the majority of young people ! The motorcycle industry can’t rely on an aging motorcycle community . And let’s face it motorcycles are just toys for silly old buggers have got nothing else to do in retirement😂 Yes I’m probably included 😊
@@paulbrook2459 very true, an XR3i was unattainable when I was a kid, there was no PCP, a motorcycle was cheap performance, youngsters today can go get a nice golf GTI/Golf R/BMW car on PCP so can get affordable performance and image these days, and will overlook expensive bikes that can become expensive ornaments.
@@andyhoward940ever owned or ridden one? Or are you just repeating the same old tired nonsense spouted by many? The quality on Chinese bikes is continuing to improve as is the technology and design. The same rubbish was touted about Royal Enfield, well I’ve owned three and they’ve all been good reliable bikes at bargain prices and when I traded in I’ve always had reasonable trade in prices.
I absolutely agree about the negativity towards different brands because, to my mind, any company willing to try and produce new motorcycles deserves a chance. I am, however, less inclined to wear rose tinted spectacles when it comes to the current state we find ourselves in as a motorcycle market. The Motorcycle Industry has always had ups and downs but this time it faces an almost "perfect storm" of: ageing demographic, legislation that will see the end of the I.C.Engine and a distinct lack of new riders coming into the market. We can carry on being positive that things will get better but I think a reality check now and then does us good because if we want to continue this hobby then we have to support the dealers we have remaining and we have to try and find ways of encouraging new (younger) riders.
Fully enjoyed your deployment of the English language in this vid. I have a a V85 tt. One year on it has proved to be reliable through all weathers encountered including torrential rain, it hadn’t missed a beat and nothing has fallen off. Very enjoyable machine to ride. Thank you for informative videos.
This rings old bells from the 1980s when Margaret Thatcher came to office. Some really excellent dealerships and service shops closed including 5-star Honda dealerships! I knew the owners very well. I was told Councils demanding massive business rents increase, or lease extension with caveats included made it impossible from a struggling business point of view, especially as unemployment rose! But much later what did some of these bike shops become? Kurdish or Turkish food shops. Which incidentally paid a simple peppercorn ground rent and rates. Many of these motorcycle shops were there while I was in infant school! And given our recent weather i.e. crap summers and net zero, its no surprise this industry is failing? And government talks about job creation? Go on pull the other one! Happy safe cruising sir 👍😊...
I'm pretty picky on which youtube channels I take any notice of with regards to bike reviews. Nathan the Postman stands out as one of the best. He buys his bikes, so he's not at the mercy of the manufacturers, and he gives straightforward unbiased opinions on these bikes. 👍
@@bobbluesbarker Nathan gives the straightest reviews of anyone on the planet. He tells it how it is. I blame him for me buying a VStrom 800DE. I am VStrom man 🤣🤣
Don’t worry about other people’s comments just ride my bikes and enjoy today out on my 350 Enfield had it 22 years every day transport til I retired mainly stands outside high mileage and great fun
it's odd how some people think it's ok to type a comment they would not say to your face. As you said, all bikes are good it's just that everyone has different tastes and preferences. I'm riding my Super Meteor and as you have now swapped yours for something else I haven't made comment, or stopped watching your channel, I like what I ride and I appreciate that it will not be to everybody's taste but I bought it for me, and as I'm happy that's all that matters. 😁
Good morning from Norfolk. I think we had a treat this morning, due to the GoPro issues an historic ride which was beautiful, music was superb and V7 did't seem too bad either. Dave you mastered it this morning, "mendacity and rogered" all in one sentence is great stuff. Keep serving it up Dave, regards, Roy.
I think you’re spot on with your analysis. It’s about the ride, back in the seventies I had numerous bikes including two new Triumph T140Vs (from Nick Jefferies). Why would I buy them when there were much more modern designs around? Because I enjoyed riding them! Now pushing seventy with three bikes in the shed, my RE Meteor 350 is my go to bike for knocking around the Scottish Highlands.
I come across constant criticism regarding my GL1500, sofa on wheels, can't get spares, old man bike etc. But I have nothing but praise for this bike. So comfortable, spares availability not a problem and I've been riding Goldwings since I was 19 years old. There are always negative people about trying to drag you to their level but I agree with you there are peaks and troughs in attitude and one must just ride through the negativity as at the end 9f the day it is what matters to you personally, what you like, what you are willing to put up with. No motorbike is perfect but if you love your bike who cares what others think. Each to their own as they say. By the way bought a 502c as a second bike and that will attract the same comments but I don't care as I'll make it mine and be proud to ride no matter what. Ride safe Dave you are right. 😁
Well said, and a perfect explanation of the toxic side of internet opinion. I have owned some of the bikes you mentioned and have had many thousands of trouble free miles on them. Meanwhile, I am picking up my brand spanking new BSA Gold Star this afternoon, and I encourage anyone considering this particular bike to have a test ride. It's the most smile inducing bike I've ever ridden 😊
Going by the Mindful Motorcyclist's experience, BSA have gone to trouble to retrospectively fix some of the niggles that affected earlier bikes, which is what I would expect them to do.
I never criticise in any real or meaningful sense any brand or type of bike someone chooses. It’s their choice as it is mine.( for how long I dread to think🙈) . The one thing I noticed in the last 30-40 years is the steady decline in the simple act of giving a fellow two wheeler a wave.Which back in the day was seen as really quite rude ,not to acknowledge another biker. I do not know why this has come to pass but it is a fact. I always seem to initiate it first an I would say I get a 70-80% acknowledgment either by returning the wave or a kind of nod ,some foreigners some times stick a boot out , Now this next bit is unfortunately what I experience from a certain brand is 90% will not acknowledge ,yet they will there fellow “branders”💁why I do not know and I must admit have not asked. Still it takes all sorts🤷🏼an I hope they are having as good a time as myself.As for new bike sales it’s a pity for if it were not for those who buy the latest trickiest thing there would not be bikes for me 10 years down the line. Ride how an what you want life’s tooo short to fook aboot💩🏴
All this negativity around currently! It's not good for any of us. Motorcycling has enough enemies as it is, without falling out with ourselves. All bikes are good.. a truism if ever there was one. Let's hold on to that.
I bought my GoldStar back in March 23 for £7100 otr. and apart from a few niggles around the engine light it's been trouble free. So what got me hot under the collar was when BSA suddenly massively discounted them. By your own admission you paid well under 5 grand for your meaning the value of mine second hand has gone through the floor. I've tried p/exing it with Honda, Yamaha and RE local dealers who either weren't interested or offered derisory amounts like £2600 and some dealers like my local BSA ones and The Superbike Factory just ignored me. Finally i was able this week to do a deal with Keith Dixon and I've bought a Kawasaki Eliminator SE. Some dealers try others sit on their hands.
Yes Ian and I believe even the dealer that TBW got his Goldstar from no longer even sells them!! Inconvenient truth methinks. It’s not just gossip and trolling (although that does go on), real difficulties are being experienced up & down the Country. Of course it’s across all brands too, not just these four examples. Glad you got sorted.
As a linguist, I love listening to your choice of words and accent!! Anyway, good points and keep 'm videos coming. I tried a 350 Clssic RE twice, once on the twisties and once on a main road / motorway run, and found it amazing in the hills but literally a pain in my butt and frustrating on the motorway and main roads (110kph tops and no acceleration). Love the looks though. As I'm looking for a classic that will be 'an all in one' I'll be looking at something with a tad more power such as the BSA 650. Trying to find somewhere with a test bike, which may entail a trip to Madrid for the day on the AVE (I'm in Barcelona). I'm hoping it's comfortable as I like the concept and looks.... all the best
For many years I've tried to be fair and nice to other people. But I've also only cared for four peoples opion on me: My parents, my wife and my son. All the rest can think what they like about me, my way of living, my possessions etc. Both my parents are gone now, so I'm down to two very alike opinions... 😅 I can't be effing bothered, if my neighbor doesn't approve of my bike...
Thanks, Dave, I believe that millennials aren't interested in riding motorcycles, that leaves it up to us oldies, I am now 68. I am thankful that I was able to ride motorcycles in the 1970's and 1980's they were great decades for riding, the roads weren't as busy, there were less parking restrictions and there were no speed cameras around every corner. I don't enjoy riding so much these days, as I'm now retired I have more time to ride, but unfortunately I choose to ride a lot less that I did when I was younger, a sign of the times I suppose, we cannot halt the effects of time on our bodies and our minds.
I enjoyed this video. You are spot-on in your comments. I have owned and sold many motorcycles over the years and have had a pretty good experience with trade-in value and private sales of little-known brands - Hyosung GV250, Piaggio MP3. I purchased my Benelli 302s with full knowledge that it would not retain value like a Honda or Yamaha, but the price was right, and I couldn't be happier with the quality of the bike in every regard. UA-cam reviews and opinion can be very influential. But, at the end of the day, you have to make up your own mind. You win some - you lose some.. that's life.
The only problem I have is cost of servicing bikes these days, when I started biking back in the 70,s there were a lot of people in engineering company’s and of course they serviced their bikes etc. I service both my Tiger 800 and T100 which saves a fortune being an indentured engineer. These days with mainly tech company’s and decline in manual industry, the skills are not taught so people relay on either dealers or good old dad who can pass the knowledge on. When it comes to what bike you have, does it matter what you ride, we are all part of a community who instead of hanging out in pubs, as we used to. Now head towards cafes for a chat about bikes and to put the world to rights, mainly these day it people who have retired, better to get out, meet other people and enjoy life.😊
I own a Harley Sportster and they've received a lot of stick since at least when I started riding in 1973! I enjoy it so it's water of a ducks back, we all like different bikes.😂🦆😊
I've been looking at getting a BSA but am being put off. I'm scared to death of getting one with some significant problem then having zero dealer support. I have only a small degree of mechanical skill so changing a wiring loom (if I can even get a replacement) is beyond me. Also, it's almost got to the point where I would be laughed at if I turned up to a meet on a BSA. The whole business rather leans me towards giving up biking altogether,
Why wouldn't you go to a bike meet, on a BSA? It's your choice what you ride and it's nobody else's business!! Be proud of your choice! I own 2 Ducatis and, because people are so narrow minded, I often get people slagging my bikes off. Do I care? No, I bloody-well don't.
I’ve had some comments at motorcycle rallies regarding my Moto Guzzi and I have to frequently correct them on incorrect statements they have made. If someone doesn’t like what bike you have so what. You don’t have to justify your decisions to anybody as long as it makes you smile. Also if you buy a BSA then I’m sure the newer models will have had any issues sorted out and you can always question a dealer regarding these issues and what would they do if you had them as well.
If certain things put you off a bike, particularly reliability, dealerships and parts availability then think long before handing over your hard earned cash. There are plenty of other great bikes out there that you maybe more happy with.
I couldn't agree more. I own both a Moto Guzzi and a CF Moto and both are fine bikes. Well engineered and built and lasting well. I've had no problems with either. I'm a fan of the R.E range too and hoping to add one to the garage. Those who knock them have for the most part never owned or even ridden them.
You’ve hit the nail on the head. One of the said Videos / Podcasts recently released made me shake my head. Power is nothing without control. We need to support the remaining manufacturers and dealers. It’s going to be a tough next 12 months for some.
I’ve been riding bikes for over 50 years. Some bikes from the 1950’s were overly heavy and massively over-engineered. Eg anything by Vincent (my next door neighbour spent his life fixing and maintaining his Black Shadow). Then bikes got simpler, lighter and much more reliable. Eg in the 1980’s my Yamaha RD 250, Kawasaki Z650 and Honda 550-4. And I could do all the maintenance myself with a socket set from Halford’s. But then they started getting heavier and heavier again, and more and more complicated. So complicated… To me, this was missing the point of biking. I would never buy such a bike (I ride a 1970’s Bonneville these days) but I notice that the people that do ride them seem to love them. I don’t understand it, but I respect it.
Beautiful day, beautiful road, beautiful bike. What's not to like? At 54 I decided to get my licence after having started my dream job a couple of weeks ago. Being terrible at making uninformed decisions, and often informed decisions as well, I have now inconvenienced myself with trying to decide whether I should buy a Moto Guzzi V7 Stone SE, a BMW R1250R or a Kawasaki Z900rs. I love it. People underestimate the joy of motorbikes. 😁 I enjoyed your video.
I am now retired and am able to afford any bike I want, I choose to have a Royal Enfield Meteor 350 which I once wouldn't touch with a barge pole and a Royal Alloy Scooter which also did nothing for me in the past, and I do not give 2 monkeys what people think of them, I enjoy them both, I have had almost every bike under the sun in the last 45 years + and loved every one of them... I have never expected accolades as to my choices of bikes and never will, I buy what I fancy at the time and I enjoy them for what they are, then move on to the next one. You seem to have great bikes, just enjoy them, and remember not everyone one will give praise all the time as we are all different. Both my current bikes are given good and bad reviews on Channels like this and I appreciate the honesty of most for giving it "warts and all" and not just saying nice things to keep certain people happy. Keep up the good posts BW and enjoy the moment with each bike you have now.....
I would like to come in from a different perspective, I would call this the big reset, many brands have changed their approach to a more corporate approach, like that a car dealership, high cost of larger capacity unit are now out of reach the the population, the general public have been asking for a more sustainable cost effective solution, and it’s the Enfield brand and CF Moto that has literally listened and delivered, now if you look back to the 70s and 80s the most popular motor cycles were 250-400 cc simple radical in that you could service them yourself, you didn’t have to pay for a subscription to an app and wear a lot of brand clothes. Hence also why the brand wars where many manufacturers planted seeds in order to keep patrons from buying a different product from another dealership.
Clear common sense and a wonderful background video. Perfect. Barrack room lawyers have never been in short supply, most of whom don't remember the good old days of points, magnetos, Japanese tyres and drum brakes. I prefer to ask someone who I KNOW is wise and knowledgeable. Few and far between these days. Keep up the good work auld hand. 👌🏻
Well done, finally the voice of reason ,there are no bad bikes just what you like or don't like. If you don't wish to buy then don't it's really simple.
Moved to the west coast of Ireland 2 years ago,and sold my beloved Indian scout before leaving,as I had no garage to keep it here in co Galway.last year I decided to get another bike but there is no bike dealerships other than in Dublin and couldn’t buy one from the uk and get it shipped over cos of vet tax to pay.actually found a 2002 drag star classic with just 4 k on the clock.on done deal so I bought it,also found out bikes don’t have mots here in the republic.even in the summer you don’t see many bikes on the road unlike the roads of North Yorkshire. When you do see a bike it’s a bmw or Harley,never a sports bike.
I feel compelled to congratulate you! All of the best motorcycle channels in my humble opinion are the ones that steer clear of politics. This very informative video does just that. I too, watched the video to which I think you refer to and was horrified by it`s political content. We all have our political opinions but they are best kept away from motorcycle blogs. I too, own a Moto Guzzi v7 special. I`ve owned this bike for two years and like you, have encountered zero problems. I also own a Royal Enfield Himalayan 411 which again has proved to be 100% reliable. I thank you Sir, for your sensible, unbiased appraisal of problems effecting the motorcycle Industry at this present moment in time.
Find it for yourself it might be that you agree with the comments made. Others in the comment section have found it and obviously found it too political and shut it down before it`s end. @@saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555
Everyone to their own, if we all liked the same it would be a boring life. A lot on social media is untruthful. One needs to think and work things out for yourself. Many people are struggling financially at the moment but still have monthly bills for unnecessary items. Try to simplify your lives. Enjoy the freedom of sensible bike riding. You do not need a £30K car on lease.
Always best to question the root source of any information! What you say is true though, and seeds of doubt can easily be sown, often without justification. An interesting and thought provoking commentary. Cheers. 👍
Great video!! Also love the picture with Eddie. We lost our 11 year old Newfoundland 3 weeks ago so really miss having her around. We still have our Russian Blue cat but he's a bit moody if you know what I mean lol. Cheers Kevin
I forgot, l don't think the price of motorcycles has anything to do with the failing market. Wages in the EU are generally lower than the UK but motorcycle ownership is the highest in the lower salaries areas. For the UK, bikes, especially the larger capacity ones, are toys whereas for them they are essential family/business transportation.
Well said Dave I love 3 of your bikes and as a 66 year old thinking about returning to biking they are on my list. I think you were referring to Fredies comments on his podcast and I totally agree. I’m going to have to have my dictionary out next time I watch your content (lots of underused words 😀) keep up the great work
I think he was referring to Freddie’s site regarding the V7’s and a certain RE owners site regarding political content, because I also turned off from that site because of his out off date political nonsense. I then removed myself from following him because when someone talks nonsense about something you know about, how can you trust them on things you don’t know. Ps I have a V7 850 Special and have had no issues in 3 years of ownership. I think she is a keeper.
Well done for calling out that channel for his party political broadcast 👏 I did exactly the same switched off and left a message for him to stick to motorcycles 😂
Do any of the mainstream manufactures actually make a truly bad motorcycle? Yes, lemons can be had from any manufacturer but in general most modern motorcycles have reasonable quality and are fit for purpose. Thanks for sharing your views on the matter. I choose a motorcycle based on my needs and wants and not the conjecture of various armchair motorcycle aficionados. There are UA-camrs who should be listened to because they are knowledgeable, honest, broad minded and in the possession of significant quantities of common sense. Then there are those that require robust BS filters to listen to. Knowing the difference is the critical hard part. Keep the useful and realistic discussions coming. BJ
Nice video. Agreed I'm 60 and don't want big bikes, touring or motorways any more. I've now two 125s a Yamaha XSR125 and CT125 Trail. I'm loving country lanes and a bit of light off roading. Great fun. Ride what makes you happy.
I have a Guzzi and an Enfield. No problems with either. I can't talk first hand about BSA or CF Moto. However, I do know a BSA owner who is more than happy with his.
Margins and profit have been squeezed by a lack of consumer confidence and available funds. New Guzzi V7 for £8k and other brands with £20k plus models that are unsuitable for many UK country roads. I bought a Royal Enfield Meteor for a good price and is cheap to run and insure. Brilliant to ride on Cornish tiny lanes and plenty of oomph for the A roads!
Great video...I myself also have a #hit bike "BSA GOLD STAR' which I acquired when dad fell ill early this year ...after spending 1200 quid on suspension decat fuel controller the bike is transformed...now my go to bike ...high praise considering it stable mates ....1250 Gsa ...950 hypermotard sp...only up t Road at Denholme if you want a go on my improved BSA 😊
Thank you for your well-expressed views on this range of matters. Particularly the phenomenon of opinions unleashed on internet platforms, and the newfound 'courage of the anonymous'. I don't care much what people ride, so long as they enjoy it. I don't ride as madly as I once did, and after 50 years of sports Ducatis, now in my 70s, I mainly 'potter' along the many dirt roads about here on my recent Transalp. Almost 20,000 kms in, and still loving it. I fully accept that the looks of that bike, particularly from the front, can be polarising, but I didn't buy it to look at. It looks fine while riding. It is missing a couple of features, but it didn't cost that much 'in the scheme of things'. I have other bikes that might be considered better looking (in my case a sports Ducati, now at 104,000 kms) and of course it does things the Honda wouldn't dream of. But in later life, the ease of riding, the smoothness, the fuel economy - these things seem more important than going flat out around Phillip Island, in spite of my many track days being some of the best moments of my life. But I reckon if you ride, that's enough. Live and let live, and all that. Unfortunate that some brands engender an 'I don't wave at anyone' attitude, but I still wave anyway. That brand being the one where the feet arrive before the rest, of course. But your pleasant and interesting conversation, set to gentle piano, with the visuals of the gorgeous lanes of Yorkshire - these videos are great. I think I am getting hooked. Thanks from Pat in South Australia.
Another interesting take and some valid points made. I ride a 2011 Harley Nightster and get stick from both Harley and non Harley enthusiasts. I also get some people who understand why I like it.
Amazing the difference in attitude towards you when you ride a Harley from fellow bikers to when you ride something else. The idea of a " community " of bikers is stretching it to say the least.
I ride a 2001 Sportster and most people I know dont like them. That's fine, there are certain bikes out there I wouldnt touch. The Harley is a keeper.😊
Well said TBW. It takes a lot to sift through the background noise generated in today's society. I enjoy riding all my bikes and all for different reasons. As they say 'It is what it is my friend' 😉
Well I love every minute of riding my 350 classic. My review is it’s a great bike but don’t take my word for it you ride it and you make your choices 😊
I just bought a Guzzi V9 Bobber with 900 miles on the clock. The new version with the digital dash and more power, for under £7k. Which suggests that there is too much stock in a lot of dealers. In fact I have been told that by a number of dealers. That, I think, is the reason for low residual value at part exchange. So I guess many disgruntled owners are slating certain brands as 'worthless'. It's not the brands, it's just the market caught out by a lack of money in people's pockets. Which is a long way of saying 'I agree with you'!
Ive always loved a certain brand who often get refered to as the "top gear" of bikes...they have "teeth" in their brand name is all i will say. But i slightly taken back by their video of the new Yamaha R9..they all but took their clothes off and made love to it. Didnt quite understand it as yes the bike is nice, but its just a more expensive R7. But then remembered they have very close support with Yamaha parts/upgrades when they do their racing/track videos. But here in the U.S. that little R9 will be almost 14 grand out the door...not too impressive when you look at the overall package vs price. Sporty bikes like naked and straight up sport bikes are slipping up in price too high especially in a terrible economy...
When I first started riding a motorbike, the motorcycling press ignored or denigrated anything that was not Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki or Kawasaki. Hence I always used to read somebody else's copy and never bought anything myself, believing that the periodicals might be interesting in places but not worth buying. Maybe we are seeing a similar phenomenon now, but enacted by a host of social media accounts.
I do agree with almost everything you say but here is one counter-remark: Some problems are all too real. Like for instance the pitiful mistakes in the new BMW GS 1300’s and KTM’s eating camshafts. If unaffected one would in the past only hear about such problems years later because the press would help to bury it. The early Honda V4 camshaft problems come to mind. But it is true that criticism should be more measured and fact driven. On that I again agree.
Social media has a lot to answer for. A lot of positives to be sure, but the opposite is certainly also true. I have noticed something and that is that, let's call them trolls, are very good at multi tasking. They are more than willing to stray from their chosen field of let's say 'swimming pool maintenance criticism' and jump aboard a passing bandwagon of brand destruction, all in the cause of a bit of strife and just for strife's sake. Sad but true. I'll adopt yours and Eddies response and make me own mind up. I will also stick to my old adopted mantra's; 'Shun the naysayers!', 'Just smile and wave boys, smile and wave' and 'Bugger the iceberg'. Beautiful ride Dave, just beautiful.
I own an 2023 Africa twin DCT. According to some of the "real motorcyclists" I need a clutch lever and at least 150hp to be considered a real motorcyclist and man. Al those old (in the spirit) grumpy relics have a gate keeping syndrome and are stuck in the past. I pass them left and right anyway because mine always works, nuff said. 😁
I'll have a go with 2 posts, the market & Chinese bikes. It is the perfect storm for UK motorcycling but it's origins go way back, decades. I've 2 sons (23&29) been around my bikes all their lives, they've no interest & neither have any of their friends. The real killer was the convoluted obstacles & restrictions blocking the youth from having a simple license for a motorbike. The markets buyers are dying, literally, and its lost the 2 generations below. There is no way back from that. Secondly, the youth that do buy small cc in commuters, mostly in the SE now don't have to, they can junk tax, mot & insurance with a leccy anything. In the blink of an eye l've seen the food deliverers in Leeds go from ICE scooters to electric. Thirdly, most manufacturers have hurtled up a dead end street. HD being the perfect example, jettisoning its slim, iconic brand entry level bike gor a far more expensive bloated blob aimed at a dwindling, not growing, customer base. There is not a lot to be positive about, unless you are a buyer, which l am. I sold my bike last month, easily. Yet owners are still saying stuff like "If it doesnt fetch this then l'm keeping it", "Not letting it go for nothing" etc etc, Boy have they got a shock coming.
Chinese bikes. I was a tradesman for 40 years and like so many others l avoided Chinese tools, experience tells me that they will cost me money, they are not durable, they fail too often & parts are an issue, I don't think that situation ever improved in my career. I am also a keen cyclist and know a very basic but durable 7 gear, fixed frame quality cycle will cost you from circa £300. But you can buy a Chinese cycle for a far, far less, with extras too, front suspension, rear suspension, disk brakes etc. But it will be a very heavy and useless piece of junk with no resale value. People will be raising their eyes, "But your toaster will be Chinese"! Er, no it won't be, it's a Dualit, made in the UK, that has any part off the shelf & can be repaired by anybody & it will last a lifetime, as well as looking good. Chinese bikes have left the market & buyers burned in the past, my memory is good. This time might be different or it may not be, nobody knows and won't for a good few years yet. So after 40 years of entirely negative experience of Chinese manufacturing it is not solely negative, but entirely normal to have reservations and scepticism. Still, if 5-10 years down the line "CF Moto" bikes have proven to be reliable, durable and there are no parts issues, both availability & supply timeframes, great! Would l buy one? Nope. Because they wouldn't provide value for money for me, my V7 gives me a lot of pleasure to own, it's not a tangible value but one that has to be earned over many decades. I am looking for a Classic 350 too, I don't expect it to have the fit & finish of a Japanese built bike, or a Japanese bike built elsewhere or even a Chinese built bike, built under the auspices of a Japanese manufacturers QA controls. The latter part would be essential for me to purchase a Chinese bike, because they don't have any skin in the game otherwise, they can just slap another name on the tank.
@@saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555 I suspect that, as a tradesman, most of your power tools are made in China. The label/brand may not sound Chinese, but the factory is probably in China. Writing this on a computer 'Designed in California' but assembled (of course) in China.
That goes back to my point about manufacturing in China but under the auspices of a company that cannot afford to lose it's reputation. I'd suggest "Where are XXXX tools made"? must be the number 1 Google search from building sites.😂
@@saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555 Stanley did its reputation a lot of harm with rebranded 'white label' stuff from the far east a while back. But I recently obtained a set of Stanley wood chisels proudly branded as Made in Sheffield, so it's never too late to learn.
@@richardsimpson3792Chinese made tools are easily replaced , little bit different story with a bike as they tend to be quite more expensive than tools. CF moto looks good, but I'll be waiting at least 5 years and see how they are getting before I even blink twice.
I realise that I am the priblem! Now 74 and riding since 1966, but only bought one new bike (1974 CZ). My present bikes a 2009 RE Bullet and 1953 DOT. I keep thinking that I could buy a new 350 RE, but then why? All my motor cycling needs are met with what I have. I have known some bad bikes (Ariel Pixie, Norton Jubilee for e.g.) but all the rest from M20s to early Norton Commandos, I have loved, accepting their limitations. Regards from your home town.
I’ve been in the restaurant my entire life and live in a city known for it food. I would always remind my employees, customers will tell a couple of people about a great meal, but they’ll tell everyone about a bad meal. I’d say, we can’t be good some of the time, we must be great all of the time. That’s life. 😜😜👍👍
Morning Dave, re. the BSA situation...my mate/mechanic works at the local Suzuki and BSA dealership and I mentioned to him all the 'problems' people online are talking about and he said it's down to the dealers not doing proper PDI when they sell the bikes. He hasn't had any of their BSAs returned for faults, although he did mention that as supplied by the importer many of them need alterations and setting-up before sale. The trouble with many of the so-called big influencers like Freddie Dobbs is that he's a pampered mummies boy with no real intelligence/personality or bike know,ledge [just my opinion of course], I cannot understand why he's so popular.
It's very hard to find the bikes you mentioned with high mileages on them. It is only years and miles that can prove a bikes's real worth, too many reviews focus on aesthetics and the few hundred miles they ride on a loan bike which tells us very little about how good a bike is as a product that, like a washing machine, is a consumer durable.
Agree with everything you say. To easy to knock something and just repeat what other people say online rather than making up your own mind. Some motorcycle dealerships do seem to be experiencing troubles but this has happened before and they came back and will happen again. We just have to support our local dealerships and ride the storm. Keep up the good work on the channel. I am now a subcriber
Well done Dave, we really need this push back against the doom mongers. The problem with people posting over and over how bad some bikes are are going to kill bikes and brands. Imagine being in a marketing department of one of the smaller brands, probably young person part of a small team, you must dread getting into work every morning and looking on the internet. Variation is the spice of life and these channels who want to trash bikes to get clicks and ad revenue will have us left just with BMW GS1300/ Honda Africa Twin etc. It's the smaller, cheaper, newer bikes that they seem to target. Eventually the positive will overcome....
I've never trashed my GoldStar, it's not the bike that stinks it's BSA. TRIUMPH introduced their 400s at a competitive price and when they proved a success they increased their prices. BSA did the exact opposite.
Thank you Sean yes it must be would destroying for some dealerships. When the likes of BSA bring something new and interesting to the market they deserve our support even if there are early day teething issues. It’s a wonder any of the newer brands bother to export to the UK but a tribute to their commitment that they do 😛
Well said Dave, I’ve seen the video you mentioned and it does indeed descend into the biased nonfactual political nonsense that a lot of his other videos do. Bike sales have fallen for a number of reasons a very poor riding season weather wise, the cost of living crisis, increased interest rates making finance more expensive, the hoops new riders have to go through compared to car drivers to obtain a full licence, insurance costs and all this adds up to limit the number of younger riders coming through to replace the aging majority of present riders. Together with a tendency for a lot of bike manufacturers to produce ever more powerful and expensive machines for a shrinking number of people able to afford them.
' . . .biased nonfactual political nonsense'. Yes, that sums it up. It is more than irritating to be subjected to a fatuous and ill-informed political rant when looking forward to a bike vlog. I will not waste further attention on him.
Always interesting to call out certain royal Enfield haters. apparently all the paint falls off the wheels and bearings wear out when being cleaned with an industrial jet washer there’s a surprise and 650cc 47 horsepower is dangerous and to slow I suggested said person tries going on a diet before complaining about the power he wasn’t happpy😂👍
For anyone suggesting the Interceptor is a sluggish, old-fashioned touring lump, I suggest they look up Trashing a Classic by Ser Leo Moto on UA-cam. I'm not encouraging anyone to ride their Interceptor or any demo bike in the way shown, but it does illustrate the speed and handling the Royal Enfield has in spite of its stately reputation.
Being a mature rider 61, riding an old GS, I recognise that brand hate but it does not match my experience with the bike. I have owned second hand Yamaha, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Honda and never had any major issues, perhaps I am just lucky.
Made me feel bad about the last comment I left on the BSA. I didn’t intend any offence. At the end of the day we are all in it for the same thing, fun on two wheels. Thank you for making these videos, I know how much work goes into them. Best wishes for the future of your channel. Thumbs up and subbed.
Just ride what makes you happy. And, respect the other guy's ride to. From a 67 year old who owns a boring, gutless, overpriced NC750X.
Cheers all, from
New Zealand
Right On my man 👍 , Exactly the way I have been doing it since I got my first set of wheels.😊
To be fair, it's actually a very handsome bike
Definitely looks better than a cb500x
It's a very nice bike!
If the NC750x is over priced I don’t know what to say about the TMax then l 😂
Nothing wrong with your ride. I had one for 2 1/2 years as a daily rider and found it very practical and reliable. I’m pissed that in Australia they wouldn’t bring in the DCT. Fantastic city and suburb steed all be it on a budget build and plenty of km between fill ups. Michelin road 5 and a centre stand is all it needed
The dealerships are closing becouse there is very little money around the public cant aford the nice things in lfe ie a new bike
I just brought home yesterday , a new to me , Moto Guzzi 2018 V7 iii Milano ,with only 2350kms on the clock. I hope I can get some good kilometers ridden before the snow starts here in Canada . ( my first Guzzi)
Nice one! I'm sure you'll enjoy the Guzzi. I have one - also my first - a 2005 Breva 750, bought last year and now with almost 65,000 km up. In my 79th year and 64th of riding, the Guzzi puts a smile on my dial! 👍
You are an inspiration! I hope I can still ride at 79! 👍🏻
I like my Moto Guzzi I have a 2020 v7 and had a v85tt. That was a great bike.
@@RideaGoodRoadmy dad rode up to 2 months before his 80th birthday when he had an accident. If the bike hadn't been a write off, he was going to keep on riding.
@ May God bless every memory of a man such as that ‼️
New motorcycle prices are utterly ridiculous and the service costs are eye water so as a man in his 71 first year and never been without a motorbike I will keep downsizing as I will never give up my passion.... I remember in the mid 90s a large Honda dealership said they wouldn't take my pristine Triumph 900 Sprint or any Triumph as a trade in....
I'm in full agreement with your views, and I want to thank you I've recently bought a RE Classic 350 desert and I love it, I'm 60 now and have nothing to prove. I can just ride along enjoying the view. Many thanks David Australia
Congratulations on your new purchase, best bike on the road!
After owning & riding motorcycles for over 50 years , all I can say is , every time I have purchased other than a Japanese brand , I have suffered nightmare issues & unreliability . The Japanese brands I owned include bikes built in Japan , Thailand & China . Be they used or new bikes , I have never had one let me down ,or need other than normal fair wear & tear consumables needed to be replaced or serviced . It appears to me , that the question of reliability of the other brands, depends on luck of the draw on where the punter gets a reasonably reliable bike with few if any issues , or a total lemon & nightmare ownership experience .
Totally agree. Started in 64 with a Tiger Cub and after a few British bikes, bought a brand new Honda CB450, "Black Bomber"in 1968 - What a difference, utterly reliable and a pleasure to own . Only real let downs since then was a failed rectifier on my VFR 800, 20 years ago and after buying my then brand new Z1000 in 2005 the Datatool alarm failed 15 years later. I couldn't turn it off! - Removed it and no more probs. Same with cars. Bought a Honda Accord in 1990 and have only bought Jap cars ever since.
Agree on the reliability of Japanese bikes. I bought a new Honda CB450 in 1968 and haven't looked back since. I still have my 2005 Z1000. which will probably last me out. I reckon the loss of so many dealers is a reflection of not many youngsters taking up motorcycling plus our economy struggling at the moment. Hopefully it will improve.
@@rogerbarrett9920 I am not surprised that many youngsters tend to shy away from motorcycling these days . What with the ridiculous price of insurance & the fact it costs a kings ransom & a plethora of tests to gain full motorcycle licence . It’s a wonder even more dealers haven’t gone down the Swan-nee .
I have stuck to Honda and never been let down. Just service them annually and they are bulletproof proof.
Hmmm I’ve owned 3 Hondas and they were far from issue free…every bike has its issues you just have to be lucky 👍🏻
Absolutely - like many here, in over three decades of riding I’ve had all sorts of bikes, and my tastes changed through that time. I like motorcycles of all types, even if some of them might not tick the right boxes for me. If a person rides a machine and they like it, then that’s all that matters - feel their enthusiasm and ride that positive wave! Never understood this “I’m a fan of manufacturer X, and so will rabidly criticise everything else”… that’s just such juvenile nonsense. Let’s hope for all our sakes that the economic doldrums lift ASAP and we can get back to the lifestyle we love so much. Ride safe all, whatever your choice of steed
We have to remember there are more immature people than there are mature ones. The trick is to allow only the ones you approve of into your head.
So true. I started riding in South Africa as a teenager and when I returned to the US at 20 yo, I was shocked at the tribalism of supposed adults trashing other people's choices. It was never a thing in SA or here in the Philippines where I am now.
There will always be those who blow out the candles of others, to see their own candle glow. Sadly, they don’t understand the warm illumination of many candles together. 🕯️
Pay no attention to the trolls, i suspect many of them don't ride, just trying to get a reaction, all the best, keep on riding.
Everyone should keep in mind the quote:
"Don't speak unless you can improve upon silence."
Thank you, Dave.
I can't begin to tell you how welcome your balanced, considerate and reasonable approach is, at the moment.
I, too, have watched the videos that you mention and have been left questioning the motives of the people making them or the people posting comments.
I've tried to counter some of the extreme negativity, myself, suggesting that, perhaps there's another side to a story but the response is often combative.
I remember something very clearly from my school days: the importance of putting together a convincing presentation, regardless of the topic....
If there are indisputable facts, then state the facts, with reference to your sources. If they're only your opinions, then acknowledge that..."In my opinion...." I get the impression that.... "I'm left wondering if...."
Using such terms implies humility and leaves open the possibility that one could be wrong.
Very rarely are the negative views couched in such terms, online. Personal opinions are posted as non-negotiable fact.
Spot on Chris some channels just seem to think that we have to accept what they say as irrefutable
@@chriskay116 So very true. Bring back civility truth, and discussion without all the “butt-hurt” drama. So many drop the grace, strength of character, and dignity of manhood at the door.
I bought a V7 Stone last year. I really look after my bikes they are garaged and cleaned. I had an issue with the starting switch, a failed brake light switch, a jammed starter motor, paint flaking off the exhaust and discovered corrosion in the back wheel when doing a tyre change. I'm sure there are plenty of good Moto Guzzis out there but many also experienced the same faults as me. I don't want to see failure, I am gutted as I lost confidence in the bike and gone back to Suzuki taking a big financial hit on the trade in. I wanted a Guzzi since I was a kid 50 years ago so I am really disappointed in my experience
I've had numerous bikes in my 50 years of riding, most of them had slight issues but I've enjoyed them all.
I currently have a 60's Norton Dominator, a 2021 Enfield Meteor and a BMW R1250R, they're all completely different. Do I care what folk think about them, do I Eck, I'm a biker, I'll ride anything and everything. There's nowt wrong with your bikes, keep up the good work.
The demise of the British motorcycling industry is based on just a few factors.
1. Cost to purchase the motorcycle new.
2. Cost to rig yourself with all of the fashionable protective gear
3. Cost of the premium to insure you, the bike and the general public.
4. Cost of servicing what are now, complicated pieces of equipment. Computers with wheels in essence, far too powerful for the majority of riders with scant regard for other road users, creating a negative view of those who ride responsibly.
5. Cost and complexity for newcomers to obtain their licence.
6. Unless you live in close proximity to wild country, riding no longer has the appeal of yesteryear. The concrete jungle has removed much of the freedom we once enjoyed.
7. The British weather, the 2024 summer has been a total disaster or the industry.
8. Traders on the High Street who are unable to provide a satisfactory level of service.
The dealers closing at present will weed out the rubbish, those with a positive approach to business will survive and the industry will indeed benefit but as always it will not be the with the usual complacency to which we have been forcibly accustomed.
The internet has killed the High Street, not just the motorcycle industry and that too will indeed throttle and choke itself eventually leaving the healthy the continue with increased prices to the consumer.
The motorcycle is a luxury item and as I was told yesterday by a VW independant garage owner, many of his customers can afford the payments but have little spare funds to pay for maintenance.
Watch the Chinese manufacturers, they are entering the market at the right time, fully dressed up motorcycles at budget prices to rock the sales of the big brands who have ruled the roost for too long….as did BSA, Norton, Triumph all those years ago.
Sales will continue to decline over the next 6 months and more dealers will collapse, hold on to your hats (helmets) the storm has yet to arrive in full force.
You don’t need to watch a series of bends with dialogue to understand what’s happening out there in the world of business, just read the papers….if you can afford one, they too are becoming cost prohibitive.
Keep riding….the storm will blow over but if you think the bike tucked away in the garage will hold its value, you may be wrong.
Well said 👍bikes just are not appealing to the majority of young people ! The motorcycle industry can’t rely on an aging motorcycle community . And let’s face it motorcycles are just toys for silly old buggers have got nothing else to do in retirement😂
Yes I’m probably included 😊
@@paulbrook2459 very true, an XR3i was unattainable when I was a kid, there was no PCP, a motorcycle was cheap performance, youngsters today can go get a nice golf GTI/Golf R/BMW car on PCP so can get affordable performance and image these days, and will overlook expensive bikes that can become expensive ornaments.
@@paulbrook2459 Realy funny comment. In Poland we do not have these problems so far.
@@andyhoward940where’s the data behind this comment? It’s not what I’ve seen.
@@andyhoward940ever owned or ridden one? Or are you just repeating the same old tired nonsense spouted by many? The quality on Chinese bikes is continuing to improve as is the technology and design. The same rubbish was touted about Royal Enfield, well I’ve owned three and they’ve all been good reliable bikes at bargain prices and when I traded in I’ve always had reasonable trade in prices.
As a motorbike owner I consider myself lucky.
But a long period of austerity means people prioritise family,mortgage,rent over everything else.
And thats why u need young people to keep the bike industry going
I absolutely agree about the negativity towards different brands because, to my mind, any company willing to try and produce new motorcycles deserves a chance. I am, however, less inclined to wear rose tinted spectacles when it comes to the current state we find ourselves in as a motorcycle market. The Motorcycle Industry has always had ups and downs but this time it faces an almost "perfect storm" of: ageing demographic, legislation that will see the end of the I.C.Engine and a distinct lack of new riders coming into the market. We can carry on being positive that things will get better but I think a reality check now and then does us good because if we want to continue this hobby then we have to support the dealers we have remaining and we have to try and find ways of encouraging new (younger) riders.
Fully enjoyed your deployment of the English language in this vid. I have a a V85 tt. One year on it has proved to be reliable through all weathers encountered including torrential rain, it hadn’t missed a beat and nothing has fallen off. Very enjoyable machine to ride. Thank you for informative videos.
here, here. Same w me. 2022 V85 Guardia... ZERO problems.. Runs 85 -90 in S W of U S like a champ
This rings old bells from the 1980s when Margaret Thatcher came to office. Some really excellent dealerships and service shops closed including 5-star Honda dealerships! I knew the owners very well. I was told Councils demanding massive business rents increase, or lease extension with caveats included made it impossible from a struggling business point of view, especially as unemployment rose! But much later what did some of these bike shops become? Kurdish or Turkish food shops. Which incidentally paid a simple peppercorn ground rent and rates. Many of these motorcycle shops were there while I was in infant school! And given our recent weather i.e. crap summers and net zero, its no surprise this industry is failing? And government talks about job creation? Go on pull the other one! Happy safe cruising sir 👍😊...
I'm pretty picky on which youtube channels I take any notice of with regards to bike reviews. Nathan the Postman stands out as one of the best. He buys his bikes, so he's not at the mercy of the manufacturers, and he gives straightforward unbiased opinions on these bikes. 👍
@@bobbluesbarker Nathan gives the straightest reviews of anyone on the planet. He tells it how it is. I blame him for me buying a VStrom 800DE. I am VStrom man 🤣🤣
Yes Nathan’s channel stands out as one of the best. Clear, unbiased and to the point…top fellah
Don’t worry about other people’s comments just ride my bikes and enjoy today out on my 350 Enfield had it 22 years every day transport til I retired mainly stands outside high mileage and great fun
it's odd how some people think it's ok to type a comment they would not say to your face. As you said, all bikes are good it's just that everyone has different tastes and preferences. I'm riding my Super Meteor and as you have now swapped yours for something else I haven't made comment, or stopped watching your channel, I like what I ride and I appreciate that it will not be to everybody's taste but I bought it for me, and as I'm happy that's all that matters. 😁
I saw a new BSA 650 gold star at Kettlewell today. I used to enjoy a ride up Littondale on my 1954 B31.
Well considered & expressed views. You have obviously spent a good deal of quality time drafting that out. Nicely done :)
What a beautiful ride. Eloquent commentary, and the Guzzi worked like a fine watch. More, more.
Good morning from Norfolk. I think we had a treat this morning, due to the GoPro issues an historic ride which was beautiful, music was superb and V7 did't seem too bad either. Dave you mastered it this morning, "mendacity and rogered" all in one sentence is great stuff. Keep serving it up Dave, regards, Roy.
Thank you Roy 😎
I think you’re spot on with your analysis. It’s about the ride, back in the seventies I had numerous bikes including two new Triumph T140Vs (from Nick Jefferies). Why would I buy them when there were much more modern designs around? Because I enjoyed riding them! Now pushing seventy with three bikes in the shed, my RE Meteor 350 is my go to bike for knocking around the Scottish Highlands.
I come across constant criticism regarding my GL1500, sofa on wheels, can't get spares, old man bike etc. But I have nothing but praise for this bike. So comfortable, spares availability not a problem and I've been riding Goldwings since I was 19 years old. There are always negative people about trying to drag you to their level but I agree with you there are peaks and troughs in attitude and one must just ride through the negativity as at the end 9f the day it is what matters to you personally, what you like, what you are willing to put up with. No motorbike is perfect but if you love your bike who cares what others think. Each to their own as they say. By the way bought a 502c as a second bike and that will attract the same comments but I don't care as I'll make it mine and be proud to ride no matter what. Ride safe Dave you are right. 😁
Well said, and a perfect explanation of the toxic side of internet opinion. I have owned some of the bikes you mentioned and have had many thousands of trouble free miles on them. Meanwhile, I am picking up my brand spanking new BSA Gold Star this afternoon, and I encourage anyone considering this particular bike to have a test ride. It's the most smile inducing bike I've ever ridden 😊
Enjoy your new bike
...and then look for a bargain on the second hand market!
@sd3457 mine was a bargain at £4,800
Going by the Mindful Motorcyclist's experience, BSA have gone to trouble to retrospectively fix some of the niggles that affected earlier bikes, which is what I would expect them to do.
It sure puts a smile on my face
I never criticise in any real or meaningful sense any brand or type of bike someone chooses. It’s their choice as it is mine.( for how long I dread to think🙈) . The one thing I noticed in the last 30-40 years is the steady decline in the simple act of giving a fellow two wheeler a wave.Which back in the day was seen as really quite rude ,not to acknowledge another biker. I do not know why this has come to pass but it is a fact. I always seem to initiate it first an I would say I get a 70-80% acknowledgment either by returning the wave or a kind of nod ,some foreigners some times stick a boot out , Now this next bit is unfortunately what I experience from a certain brand is 90% will not acknowledge ,yet they will there fellow “branders”💁why I do not know and I must admit have not asked. Still it takes all sorts🤷🏼an I hope they are having as good a time as myself.As for new bike sales it’s a pity for if it were not for those who buy the latest trickiest thing there would not be bikes for me 10 years down the line. Ride how an what you want life’s tooo short to fook aboot💩🏴
"..give voice to their problems.." - the said inbalance of that on certain brands was brilliantly outlined by you. Well said !
A beautifully tranquil and calming little outing, the visuals, the narrative, and the music.
All this negativity around currently! It's not good for any of us. Motorcycling has enough enemies as it is, without falling out with ourselves. All bikes are good.. a truism if ever there was one. Let's hold on to that.
I recently bought a triumph T120, I am going to let everyone know far and wide how it holds up and what kind of issues I have .
I bought my GoldStar back in March 23 for £7100 otr. and apart from a few niggles around the engine light it's been trouble free. So what got me hot under the collar was when BSA suddenly massively discounted them. By your own admission you paid well under 5 grand for your meaning the value of mine second hand has gone through the floor. I've tried p/exing it with Honda, Yamaha and RE local dealers who either weren't interested or offered derisory amounts like £2600 and some dealers like my local BSA ones and The Superbike Factory just ignored me. Finally i was able this week to do a deal with Keith Dixon and I've bought a Kawasaki Eliminator SE. Some dealers try others sit on their hands.
Yes Ian and I believe even the dealer that TBW got his Goldstar from no longer even sells them!! Inconvenient truth methinks. It’s not just gossip and trolling (although that does go on), real difficulties are being experienced up & down the Country. Of course it’s across all brands too, not just these four examples. Glad you got sorted.
If Superbike factory are ignoring you then just wow!😂 I must have 100 call for months when l tried to trade with them.
I even tried ' we buy any bike ' they don't, no interest.
As a linguist, I love listening to your choice of words and accent!! Anyway, good points and keep 'm videos coming. I tried a 350 Clssic RE twice, once on the twisties and once on a main road / motorway run, and found it amazing in the hills but literally a pain in my butt and frustrating on the motorway and main roads (110kph tops and no acceleration). Love the looks though. As I'm looking for a classic that will be 'an all in one' I'll be looking at something with a tad more power such as the BSA 650. Trying to find somewhere with a test bike, which may entail a trip to Madrid for the day on the AVE (I'm in Barcelona). I'm hoping it's comfortable as I like the concept and looks.... all the best
Thank you buddy much appreciated yes the BSA ticks the personality box and gives you that extra fizz lacking in the Classic 350
For many years I've tried to be fair and nice to other people. But I've also only cared for four peoples opion on me: My parents, my wife and my son. All the rest can think what they like about me, my way of living, my possessions etc. Both my parents are gone now, so I'm down to two very alike opinions... 😅 I can't be effing bothered, if my neighbor doesn't approve of my bike...
Thanks, Dave, I believe that millennials aren't interested in riding motorcycles, that leaves it up to us oldies, I am now 68. I am thankful that I was able to ride motorcycles in the 1970's and 1980's they were great decades for riding, the roads weren't as busy, there were less parking restrictions and there were no speed cameras around every corner.
I don't enjoy riding so much these days, as I'm now retired I have more time to ride, but unfortunately I choose to ride a lot less that I did when I was younger, a sign of the times I suppose, we cannot halt the effects of time on our bodies and our minds.
I enjoyed this video. You are spot-on in your comments. I have owned and sold many motorcycles over the years and have had a pretty good experience with trade-in value and private sales of little-known brands - Hyosung GV250, Piaggio MP3. I purchased my Benelli 302s with full knowledge that it would not retain value like a Honda or Yamaha, but the price was right, and I couldn't be happier with the quality of the bike in every regard. UA-cam reviews and opinion can be very influential. But, at the end of the day, you have to make up your own mind. You win some - you lose some.. that's life.
Nothing and no one is perfect… ‘cept me and my Guzzi V7 Stone 🥰
Just a completely random comment......
"Your Guzzi is just bloody beautiful!"😅😅😅
The only problem I have is cost of servicing bikes these days, when I started biking back in the 70,s there were a lot of people in engineering company’s and of course they serviced their bikes etc. I service both my Tiger 800 and T100 which saves a fortune being an indentured engineer. These days with mainly tech company’s and decline in manual industry, the skills are not taught so people relay on either dealers or good old dad who can pass the knowledge on. When it comes to what bike you have, does it matter what you ride, we are all part of a community who instead of hanging out in pubs, as we used to. Now head towards cafes for a chat about bikes and to put the world to rights, mainly these day it people who have retired, better to get out, meet other people and enjoy life.😊
Excellent Statement!
I own a Harley Sportster and they've received a lot of stick since at least when I started riding in 1973! I enjoy it so it's water of a ducks back, we all like different bikes.😂🦆😊
I've been looking at getting a BSA but am being put off. I'm scared to death of getting one with some significant problem then having zero dealer support. I have only a small degree of mechanical skill so changing a wiring loom (if I can even get a replacement) is beyond me. Also, it's almost got to the point where I would be laughed at if I turned up to a meet on a BSA. The whole business rather leans me towards giving up biking altogether,
Why wouldn't you go to a bike meet, on a BSA? It's your choice what you ride and it's nobody else's business!! Be proud of your choice! I own 2 Ducatis and, because people are so narrow minded, I often get people slagging my bikes off. Do I care? No, I bloody-well don't.
I’ve had some comments at motorcycle rallies regarding my Moto Guzzi and I have to frequently correct them on incorrect statements they have made. If someone doesn’t like what bike you have so what. You don’t have to justify your decisions to anybody as long as it makes you smile. Also if you buy a BSA then I’m sure the newer models will have had any issues sorted out and you can always question a dealer regarding these issues and what would they do if you had them as well.
If certain things put you off a bike, particularly reliability, dealerships and parts availability then think long before handing over your hard earned cash. There are plenty of other great bikes out there that you maybe more happy with.
I couldn't agree more. I own both a Moto Guzzi and a CF Moto and both are fine bikes. Well engineered and built and lasting well. I've had no problems with either. I'm a fan of the R.E range too and hoping to add one to the garage. Those who knock them have for the most part never owned or even ridden them.
Spot on correct buddy 👍🏻
You’ve hit the nail on the head. One of the said Videos / Podcasts recently released made me shake my head. Power is nothing without control. We need to support the remaining manufacturers and dealers. It’s going to be a tough next 12 months for some.
Wise words buddy….there’s strength in numbers we need to hold the line 👍🏻
I’ve been riding bikes for over 50 years. Some bikes from the 1950’s were overly heavy and massively over-engineered. Eg anything by Vincent (my next door neighbour spent his life fixing and maintaining his Black Shadow). Then bikes got simpler, lighter and much more reliable. Eg in the 1980’s my Yamaha RD 250, Kawasaki Z650 and Honda 550-4. And I could do all the maintenance myself with a socket set from Halford’s. But then they started getting heavier and heavier again, and more and more complicated. So complicated… To me, this was missing the point of biking. I would never buy such a bike (I ride a 1970’s Bonneville these days) but I notice that the people that do ride them seem to love them. I don’t understand it, but I respect it.
Beautiful day, beautiful road, beautiful bike. What's not to like?
At 54 I decided to get my licence after having started my dream job a couple of weeks ago. Being terrible at making uninformed decisions, and often informed decisions as well, I have now inconvenienced myself with trying to decide whether I should buy a Moto Guzzi V7 Stone SE, a BMW R1250R or a Kawasaki Z900rs.
I love it. People underestimate the joy of motorbikes. 😁
I enjoyed your video.
I am now retired and am able to afford any bike I want, I choose to have a Royal Enfield Meteor 350 which I once wouldn't touch with a barge pole and a Royal Alloy Scooter which also did nothing for me in the past, and I do not give 2 monkeys what people think of them, I enjoy them both, I have had almost every bike under the sun in the last 45 years + and loved every one of them... I have never expected accolades as to my choices of bikes and never will, I buy what I fancy at the time and I enjoy them for what they are, then move on to the next one. You seem to have great bikes, just enjoy them, and remember not everyone one will give praise all the time as we are all different. Both my current bikes are given good and bad reviews on Channels like this and I appreciate the honesty of most for giving it "warts and all" and not just saying nice things to keep certain people happy. Keep up the good posts BW and enjoy the moment with each bike you have now.....
I would like to come in from a different perspective, I would call this the big reset, many brands have changed their approach to a more corporate approach, like that a car dealership, high cost of larger capacity unit are now out of reach the the population, the general public have been asking for a more sustainable cost effective solution, and it’s the Enfield brand and CF Moto that has literally listened and delivered, now if you look back to the 70s and 80s the most popular motor cycles were 250-400 cc simple radical in that you could service them yourself, you didn’t have to pay for a subscription to an app and wear a lot of brand clothes. Hence also why the brand wars where many manufacturers planted seeds in order to keep patrons from buying a different product from another dealership.
Clear common sense and a wonderful background video. Perfect. Barrack room lawyers have never been in short supply, most of whom don't remember the good old days of points, magnetos, Japanese tyres and drum brakes. I prefer to ask someone who I KNOW is wise and knowledgeable. Few and far between these days. Keep up the good work auld hand. 👌🏻
A question, what is that little visor are on your phone? I need one. Thanks in advance
Well done, finally the voice of reason ,there are no bad bikes just what you like or don't like. If you don't wish to buy then don't it's really simple.
I looked at the goldstar but it wasn’t for me, I went for the interceptor and so glad that I did, both great bikes though,
Moved to the west coast of Ireland 2 years ago,and sold my beloved Indian scout before leaving,as I had no garage to keep it here in co Galway.last year I decided to get another bike but there is no bike dealerships other than in Dublin and couldn’t buy one from the uk and get it shipped over cos of vet tax to pay.actually found a 2002 drag star classic with just 4 k on the clock.on done deal so I bought it,also found out bikes don’t have mots here in the republic.even in the summer you don’t see many bikes on the road unlike the roads of North Yorkshire. When you do see a bike it’s a bmw or Harley,never a sports bike.
Beautiful ride and excellent commentary. With no silly politicking. Keep up the good work.
Thank you Ethan
I feel compelled to congratulate you! All of the best motorcycle channels in my humble opinion are the ones that steer clear of politics. This very informative video does just that. I too, watched the video to which I think you refer to and was horrified by it`s political content. We all have our political opinions but they are best kept away from motorcycle blogs. I too, own a Moto Guzzi v7 special. I`ve owned this bike for two years and like you, have encountered zero problems. I also own a Royal Enfield Himalayan 411 which again has proved to be 100% reliable. I thank you Sir, for your sensible, unbiased appraisal of problems effecting the motorcycle Industry at this present moment in time.
What was this"political" vid that has caused such a stir?
Find it for yourself it might be that you agree with the comments made. Others in the comment section have found it and obviously found it too political and shut it down before it`s end. @@saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555
That bike sounded so smooth and silky. I wish we had roads like that in Canada.
Everyone to their own, if we all liked the same it would be a boring life. A lot on social media is untruthful. One needs to think and work things out for yourself. Many people are struggling financially at the moment but still have monthly bills for unnecessary items. Try to simplify your lives. Enjoy the freedom of sensible bike riding. You do not need a £30K car on lease.
Thank goodness you didn't mention Brexit.
Always best to question the root source of any information! What you say is true though, and seeds of doubt can easily be sown, often without justification. An interesting and thought provoking commentary. Cheers. 👍
Great video!! Also love the picture with Eddie. We lost our 11 year old Newfoundland 3 weeks ago so really miss having her around. We still have our Russian Blue cat but he's a bit moody if you know what I mean lol.
Cheers
Kevin
Nothing worse than experiencing the loss of a beloved dog. My thoughts are with you.
Sorry to hear that Kevin I know all too well how it feels but remember what you gave each other and how that made the world a better place
I wonder if Stewart Fillingham came across the same party political broadcast video, would he turn it off too? 🤔🤔
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Off topic question. Which of your four bikes is the most comfortable for longer distances? Reply at your leisure. Thanks!
CF Moto for sure
I forgot, l don't think the price of motorcycles has anything to do with the failing market. Wages in the EU are generally lower than the UK but motorcycle ownership is the highest in the lower salaries areas. For the UK, bikes, especially the larger capacity ones, are toys whereas for them they are essential family/business transportation.
Well said Dave I love 3 of your bikes and as a 66 year old thinking about returning to biking they are on my list. I think you were referring to Fredies comments on his podcast and I totally agree. I’m going to have to have my dictionary out next time I watch your content (lots of underused words 😀) keep up the great work
I think he was referring to Freddie’s site regarding the V7’s and a certain RE owners site regarding political content, because I also turned off from that site because of his out off date political nonsense. I then removed myself from following him because when someone talks nonsense about something you know about, how can you trust them on things you don’t know. Ps I have a V7 850 Special and have had no issues in 3 years of ownership. I think she is a keeper.
@@shabletent so you didn’t see fredies podcast abot the bsa then
Well done for calling out that channel for his party political broadcast 👏
I did exactly the same switched off and left a message for him to stick to motorcycles 😂
Good for you sir 👍🏻
Do any of the mainstream manufactures actually make a truly bad motorcycle? Yes, lemons can be had from any manufacturer but in general most modern motorcycles have reasonable quality and are fit for purpose. Thanks for sharing your views on the matter. I choose a motorcycle based on my needs and wants and not the conjecture of various armchair motorcycle aficionados. There are UA-camrs who should be listened to because they are knowledgeable, honest, broad minded and in the possession of significant quantities of common sense. Then there are those that require robust BS filters to listen to. Knowing the difference is the critical hard part. Keep the useful and realistic discussions coming.
BJ
Nice video. Agreed I'm 60 and don't want big bikes, touring or motorways any more. I've now two 125s a Yamaha XSR125 and CT125 Trail. I'm loving country lanes and a bit of light off roading. Great fun. Ride what makes you happy.
I have a Guzzi and an Enfield. No problems with either. I can't talk first hand about BSA or CF Moto. However, I do know a BSA owner who is more than happy with his.
Fine words, ballanced and thought-provoking. Thanks.....still yearning after my next bike! Maybe in time for my 73rd birthday 😂
Margins and profit have been squeezed by a lack of consumer confidence and available funds. New Guzzi V7 for £8k and other brands with £20k plus models that are unsuitable for many UK country roads. I bought a Royal Enfield Meteor for a good price and is cheap to run and insure. Brilliant to ride on Cornish tiny lanes and plenty of oomph for the A roads!
Great video...I myself also have a #hit bike "BSA GOLD STAR' which I acquired when dad fell ill early this year ...after spending 1200 quid on suspension decat fuel controller the bike is transformed...now my go to bike ...high praise considering it stable mates ....1250 Gsa ...950 hypermotard sp...only up t Road at Denholme if you want a go on my improved BSA 😊
Hi Shane I’d be interested in a look at that BSA and maybe some content if you’re interested thebingleywheeler@gmail.com
Although a bit long winded I agree w/ your statements. Thank you. Ps As a Texas open space guy those stone walls make me nervous . Lol!
How many miles you got clocked up on the Goldstar?
Good morning Dave, interesting topics for sure and a lot of truth in your narrative. Keep up the good work I enjoy your channel 👍
Cheers lester
Your words could not have been better delivered. Absolutely spot on! Far too many clueless idiots dressed up as self-professed "experts" out there.
Cheers Ross much appreciated sir 👍🏻
Thank you for your well-expressed views on this range of matters. Particularly the phenomenon of opinions unleashed on internet platforms, and the newfound 'courage of the anonymous'. I don't care much what people ride, so long as they enjoy it. I don't ride as madly as I once did, and after 50 years of sports Ducatis, now in my 70s, I mainly 'potter' along the many dirt roads about here on my recent Transalp. Almost 20,000 kms in, and still loving it.
I fully accept that the looks of that bike, particularly from the front, can be polarising, but I didn't buy it to look at. It looks fine while riding. It is missing a couple of features, but it didn't cost that much 'in the scheme of things'. I have other bikes that might be considered better looking (in my case a sports Ducati, now at 104,000 kms) and of course it does things the Honda wouldn't dream of. But in later life, the ease of riding, the smoothness, the fuel economy - these things seem more important than going flat out around Phillip Island, in spite of my many track days being some of the best moments of my life.
But I reckon if you ride, that's enough. Live and let live, and all that. Unfortunate that some brands engender an 'I don't wave at anyone' attitude, but I still wave anyway. That brand being the one where the feet arrive before the rest, of course. But your pleasant and interesting conversation, set to gentle piano, with the visuals of the gorgeous lanes of Yorkshire - these videos are great. I think I am getting hooked. Thanks from Pat in South Australia.
Great stories there Pat and wise words cheers matey 😎👍🏻
Another interesting take and some valid points made. I ride a 2011 Harley Nightster and get stick from both Harley and non Harley enthusiasts. I also get some people who understand why I like it.
Amazing the difference in attitude towards you when you ride a Harley from fellow bikers to when you ride something else. The idea of a " community " of bikers is stretching it to say the least.
I ride a 2001 Sportster and most people I know dont like them. That's fine, there are certain bikes out there I wouldnt touch. The Harley is a keeper.😊
Well said TBW. It takes a lot to sift through the background noise generated in today's society. I enjoy riding all my bikes and all for different reasons. As they say 'It is what it is my friend' 😉
Well I love every minute of riding my 350 classic. My review is it’s a great bike but don’t take my word for it you ride it and you make your choices 😊
Morning Dave, another enjoyable video, and many true words, keep up the riding, and good picture at the end of you and Eddie 😊
Any time spent with dogs or motorcycles is not time wasted 🙂
Amen to that
I just bought a Guzzi V9 Bobber with 900 miles on the clock. The new version with the digital dash and more power, for under £7k. Which suggests that there is too much stock in a lot of dealers. In fact I have been told that by a number of dealers. That, I think, is the reason for low residual value at part exchange. So I guess many disgruntled owners are slating certain brands as 'worthless'. It's not the brands, it's just the market caught out by a lack of money in people's pockets. Which is a long way of saying 'I agree with you'!
Ive always loved a certain brand who often get refered to as the "top gear" of bikes...they have "teeth" in their brand name is all i will say. But i slightly taken back by their video of the new Yamaha R9..they all but took their clothes off and made love to it. Didnt quite understand it as yes the bike is nice, but its just a more expensive R7. But then remembered they have very close support with Yamaha parts/upgrades when they do their racing/track videos. But here in the U.S. that little R9 will be almost 14 grand out the door...not too impressive when you look at the overall package vs price. Sporty bikes like naked and straight up sport bikes are slipping up in price too high especially in a terrible economy...
When I first started riding a motorbike, the motorcycling press ignored or denigrated anything that was not Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki or Kawasaki. Hence I always used to read somebody else's copy and never bought anything myself, believing that the periodicals might be interesting in places but not worth buying. Maybe we are seeing a similar phenomenon now, but enacted by a host of social media accounts.
A CF Moto 800 MT costs nearly 12,000 Euro's here in Ireland, I don't see any Chinese bargains ?
I do agree with almost everything you say but here is one counter-remark: Some problems are all too real. Like for instance the pitiful mistakes in the new BMW GS 1300’s and KTM’s eating camshafts. If unaffected one would in the past only hear about such problems years later because the press would help to bury it. The early Honda V4 camshaft problems come to mind. But it is true that criticism should be more measured and fact driven. On that I again agree.
Once Iv'e sold my Bmw R100 GS PD CLASSIC, I will be looking to buy a Gold Star. Despite the adverse comments you refer to. Interesting vid this one!!!
Social media has a lot to answer for. A lot of positives to be sure, but the opposite is certainly also true. I have noticed something and that is that, let's call them trolls, are very good at multi tasking. They are more than willing to stray from their chosen field of let's say 'swimming pool maintenance criticism' and jump aboard a passing bandwagon of brand destruction, all in the cause of a bit of strife and just for strife's sake. Sad but true. I'll adopt yours and Eddies response and make me own mind up. I will also stick to my old adopted mantra's; 'Shun the naysayers!', 'Just smile and wave boys, smile and wave' and 'Bugger the iceberg'. Beautiful ride Dave, just beautiful.
I own an 2023 Africa twin DCT. According to some of the "real motorcyclists" I need a clutch lever and at least 150hp to be considered a real motorcyclist and man. Al those old (in the spirit) grumpy relics have a gate keeping syndrome and are stuck in the past. I pass them left and right anyway because mine always works, nuff said. 😁
I'll have a go with 2 posts, the market & Chinese bikes. It is the perfect storm for UK motorcycling but it's origins go way back, decades. I've 2 sons (23&29) been around my bikes all their lives, they've no interest & neither have any of their friends. The real killer was the convoluted obstacles & restrictions blocking the youth from having a simple license for a motorbike.
The markets buyers are dying, literally, and its lost the 2 generations below. There is no way back from that.
Secondly, the youth that do buy small cc in commuters, mostly in the SE now don't have to, they can junk tax, mot & insurance with a leccy anything. In the blink of an eye l've seen the food deliverers in Leeds go from ICE scooters to electric.
Thirdly, most manufacturers have hurtled up a dead end street. HD being the perfect example, jettisoning its slim, iconic brand entry level bike gor a far more expensive bloated blob aimed at a dwindling, not growing, customer base.
There is not a lot to be positive about, unless you are a buyer, which l am. I sold my bike last month, easily. Yet owners are still saying stuff like "If it doesnt fetch this then l'm keeping it", "Not letting it go for nothing" etc etc, Boy have they got a shock coming.
Chinese bikes. I was a tradesman for 40 years and like so many others l avoided Chinese tools, experience tells me that they will cost me money, they are not durable, they fail too often & parts are an issue, I don't think that situation ever improved in my career.
I am also a keen cyclist and know a very basic but durable 7 gear, fixed frame quality cycle will cost you from circa £300. But you can buy a Chinese cycle for a far, far less, with extras too, front suspension, rear suspension, disk brakes etc. But it will be a very heavy and useless piece of junk with no resale value.
People will be raising their eyes, "But your toaster will be Chinese"! Er, no it won't be, it's a Dualit, made in the UK, that has any part off the shelf & can be repaired by anybody & it will last a lifetime, as well as looking good.
Chinese bikes have left the market & buyers burned in the past, my memory is good. This time might be different or it may not be, nobody knows and won't for a good few years yet. So after 40 years of entirely negative experience of Chinese manufacturing it is not solely negative, but entirely normal to have reservations and scepticism.
Still, if 5-10 years down the line "CF Moto" bikes have proven to be reliable, durable and there are no parts issues, both availability & supply timeframes, great!
Would l buy one? Nope. Because they wouldn't provide value for money for me, my V7 gives me a lot of pleasure to own, it's not a tangible value but one that has to be earned over many decades. I am looking for a Classic 350 too, I don't expect it to have the fit & finish of a Japanese built bike, or a Japanese bike built elsewhere or even a Chinese built bike, built under the auspices of a Japanese manufacturers QA controls.
The latter part would be essential for me to purchase a Chinese bike, because they don't have any skin in the game otherwise, they can just slap another name on the tank.
@@saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555 I suspect that, as a tradesman, most of your power tools are made in China. The label/brand may not sound Chinese, but the factory is probably in China.
Writing this on a computer 'Designed in California' but assembled (of course) in China.
That goes back to my point about manufacturing in China but under the auspices of a company that cannot afford to lose it's reputation. I'd suggest "Where are XXXX tools made"? must be the number 1 Google search from building sites.😂
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Stanley did its reputation a lot of harm with rebranded 'white label' stuff from the far east a while back.
But I recently obtained a set of Stanley wood chisels proudly branded as Made in Sheffield, so it's never too late to learn.
@@richardsimpson3792Chinese made tools are easily replaced , little bit different story with a bike as they tend to be quite more expensive than tools. CF moto looks good, but I'll be waiting at least 5 years and see how they are getting before I even blink twice.
I realise that I am the priblem! Now 74 and riding since 1966, but only bought one new bike (1974 CZ). My present bikes a 2009 RE Bullet and 1953 DOT.
I keep thinking that I could buy a new 350 RE, but then why? All my motor cycling needs are met with what I have.
I have known some bad bikes (Ariel Pixie, Norton Jubilee for e.g.) but all the rest from M20s to early Norton Commandos, I have loved, accepting their limitations.
Regards from your home town.
I’ve been in the restaurant my entire life and live in a city known for it food. I would always remind my employees, customers will tell a couple of people about a great meal, but they’ll tell everyone about a bad meal. I’d say, we can’t be good some of the time, we must be great all of the time. That’s life. 😜😜👍👍
Absolutely riveting script and oh so professionally spoken.
Morning Dave, re. the BSA situation...my mate/mechanic works at the local Suzuki and BSA dealership and I mentioned to him all the 'problems' people online are talking about and he said it's down to the dealers not doing proper PDI when they sell the bikes. He hasn't had any of their BSAs returned for faults, although he did mention that as supplied by the importer many of them need alterations and setting-up before sale.
The trouble with many of the so-called big influencers like Freddie Dobbs is that he's a pampered mummies boy with no real intelligence/personality or bike know,ledge [just my opinion of course], I cannot understand why he's so popular.
I agree totally Terry he seems rather naive and naivety with popularity is an unhelpful combination
Freddy doesn’t like bikes with carburettors says it all
It's very hard to find the bikes you mentioned with high mileages on them. It is only years and miles that can prove a bikes's real worth, too many reviews focus on aesthetics and the few hundred miles they ride on a loan bike which tells us very little about how good a bike is as a product that, like a washing machine, is a consumer durable.
Agree with everything you say. To easy to knock something and just repeat what other people say online rather than making up your own mind.
Some motorcycle dealerships do seem to be experiencing troubles but this has happened before and they came back and will happen again.
We just have to support our local dealerships and ride the storm.
Keep up the good work on the channel.
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Well done Dave, we really need this push back against the doom mongers. The problem with people posting over and over how bad some bikes are are going to kill bikes and brands. Imagine being in a marketing department of one of the smaller brands, probably young person part of a small team, you must dread getting into work every morning and looking on the internet. Variation is the spice of life and these channels who want to trash bikes to get clicks and ad revenue will have us left just with BMW GS1300/ Honda Africa Twin etc. It's the smaller, cheaper, newer bikes that they seem to target. Eventually the positive will overcome....
I've never trashed my GoldStar, it's not the bike that stinks it's BSA. TRIUMPH introduced their 400s at a competitive price and when they proved a success they increased their prices. BSA did the exact opposite.
Thank you Sean yes it must be would destroying for some dealerships. When the likes of BSA bring something new and interesting to the market they deserve our support even if there are early day teething issues. It’s a wonder any of the newer brands bother to export to the UK but a tribute to their commitment that they do 😛
Well said Dave, I’ve seen the video you mentioned and it does indeed descend into the biased nonfactual political nonsense that a lot of his other videos do.
Bike sales have fallen for a number of reasons a very poor riding season weather wise, the cost of living crisis, increased interest rates making finance more expensive, the hoops new riders have to go through compared to car drivers to obtain a full licence, insurance costs and all this adds up to limit the number of younger riders coming through to replace the aging majority of present riders. Together with a tendency for a lot of bike manufacturers to produce ever more powerful and expensive machines for a shrinking number of people able to afford them.
' . . .biased nonfactual political nonsense'. Yes, that sums it up. It is more than irritating to be subjected to a fatuous and ill-informed political rant when looking forward to a bike vlog. I will not waste further attention on him.
@@m2menuiserie540same here. He has lost my respect and viewer / following.
Well said 👍🏻
Always interesting to call out certain royal Enfield haters. apparently all the paint falls off the wheels and bearings wear out when being cleaned with an industrial jet washer there’s a surprise and 650cc 47 horsepower is dangerous and to slow I suggested said person tries going on a diet before complaining about the power he wasn’t happpy😂👍
For anyone suggesting the Interceptor is a sluggish, old-fashioned touring lump, I suggest they look up Trashing a Classic by Ser Leo Moto on UA-cam. I'm not encouraging anyone to ride their Interceptor or any demo bike in the way shown, but it does illustrate the speed and handling the Royal Enfield has in spite of its stately reputation.
Being a mature rider 61, riding an old GS, I recognise that brand hate but it does not match my experience with the bike. I have owned second hand Yamaha, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Honda and never had any major issues, perhaps I am just lucky.
Made me feel bad about the last comment I left on the BSA. I didn’t intend any offence.
At the end of the day we are all in it for the same thing, fun on two wheels.
Thank you for making these videos, I know how much work goes into them. Best wishes for the future of your channel.
Thumbs up and subbed.
Much appreciate 👍🏻