Just wanted to comment and say that your panel lining advice with the fountain-like pen changed my panel lining experience today. I gave it a shot with the weathering stuff and it was so pleasant, easy to clean up, and more reliable to apply. Thank you!!
Another way to remove excess ink is with an eraser, ethyl or isopropyl alcohol on a piece of microfiber (depending on the region, these may be easier or cheaper to obtain). I also recommend the 20x gundam marker for unions or the 30x for the rest, again it may be easier to get and start using in certain countries and also the chance of break the pices is less
Tamiya tends to actually take longer to dry enough to clean, for anything less than a deep panel line, in my exp. So I just started using the acrylic washes (all water based) I've had for decades, thanks to miniature painting. ^_^ A *much* wider array of colours to choose from, too! And a LOT more beginner friendly (so I always recommend this, instead of Tamiya/MrHobby to new builders)!
Hey nice video :) I just got a similar eraser tool and was wondering how to clean it. I've read you can use enamel thinner to clean it but I can't manage to get the black out of it. and is already pretty dirty after cleaning a few pieces (I used Tamiya panel liner )
Thank you! First of all, don’t expect miracles. You can clean it but it won’t get white again. What it will do is stopping leaving black streak marks. With Tamiya just get zippo lighter fluid, damp the eraser and pass it multiple times on some absorbent paper. Repeat the process until it doesn’t leave any color on the paper. Still, be prepared to change the tip at least once for every kit, if not more.
@@TeaandGunpla I see, this makes sense. I saw someone showing a perfectly white tip and saying they used it already on like 3 kits, so my expectations were a bit skewed. Still one tip per kit is not that bad, not sure if it's worth it over regular cotton buds tho. Thanks for the quick answer!
So, if you do not plan to paint your Gunpla, you don’t need to precoat, unless you’re using the Tamiya panel liner. Both the acrylic and the Mr weathering can be use on bare plastic without any worry. If you instead want to paint your model, you need to use a gloss coat AFTER you finished your paint job. This is to protect the colors. I hope this is a bit more clear! Let me know if you have any more questions. If you also plan to paint your model with acrylics I have a video up specifically on the matter, where I cover priming, painting, coatings and panel lining
@TeaandGunpla ill check it out, you've been very helpful! I'm thinking of just brush painting for now. Would you know if acrylics are safe with the Ray's Studio metallic markers?
No worries! Ray Studio works fine with acrylics but if you make a mistake and use the Ray Studio Correcting marker, that could totally ruin the acrylic paint. So I would suggest to be really careful!
I find the Mr. Hobby spray top coat to be pretty good, but there's other brands that works as well, like Tamiya for example. Just remember that to be able to clean the panel linier properly and have it flow nicely you need to apply a gloss top coat. The flat/matte one won't work.
hello from central Mexico..I just watched your video on panel lining gundam... still have a question... I have primed and painted my kit Vallejo acrylics, then put Tamiya Acrylic X22 Gloss,Clear QUESTION.. can I use tamiya enamel panel liner... and with WHAT do I clean it off with? zippo, airbrush cleaner, iso 95% to 99%? so that the acrylic gloss coat and under paints don't get damaged... THANK YOU
hello , really informative video! just wanted to ask if i can use bosny top coat no.191 (flat clear) for top coating. I am going to use tamiya panel liner so im really concerned about the plastic if that will make it brittle . Also , are there any other panel liners with a thin brush in bottle?prefer an easy application
Hi, you should first apply a gloss coat (like the bosny 190) before panel lining with Tamiya, to make sure the plastic does not crack. Once the panel liner is dry you can apply the flat clear 191 without issues. Make sure you don’t spray too much of it and keep it at a good distance. I always used Tamiya or Mr. Weathering color as panel liners, which are the best in the category. You could try also the Gundam Markers, they are really easy to use. But I think that the result is a bit less nice compared to the others.
@@TeaandGunpla thanks!.. unfortunately the clear (no.190) bosny is out of stock in my country. Can I use the matt one for finishing and top coating as well?
You can it but I would not advise you to do it. A gloss coat will give a flat surface to work on, so both the panel lining and especially the clean up will be easier. The matte is instead more rough and you risk to not be able to clean properly the smudges. Maybe check if you can find a different brand like Mr. Hobby glossy topcoat
Hello! Thanks for the tutorial, really helps a lot for a noob like me. What do you think is the best time to panel line? While in the runners, each part after separating away from runners, or after building each unit? (Of course after top coating also) thank you in advance!
Thank you! I personally panel line after I cut the part off the runner and I cleaned all the nub marks. While on the runner the piece is harder to move around and get all the spots properly filled, I also prefer having already sanded and brushed away all the plastic dust. What you don’t want to do is panel lining after you built the model. The ink will go between the parts and leak around, making way more messy to clean up!
Usually 5 to 10 minutes. It really depends on the temperature and humidity of the surroundings. A good way to understand if the liquid is dry is to look at the piece it under a bright light. If it’s not shiny anymore you can start cleaning.
I have not been using them too much. They are indeed great for beginners due to their easy use but I feel that the result is not as crisp as the liquid panel liners.
@@TeaandGunpla thanks for your honest opinion, I'm indeed a beginner, just done 2 models til now, I'll continue using them until I feel I need something better.
You’re not the first one to tell how hard is to find some of this products in the USA… I am actually wondering if it could be a good idea to open an online shop, I have easy access to a lot of really good items. Let’s see, maybe in the future there will be some news! Thanks also for your kind words!
@@TeaandGunpla I would at the very least suggest that, if possible, you do some sort of Amazon linking to the items you recommend. Any sort of partner program sounds like a smart idea. I think that Ray Studio Panel Line Eraser was the only item I couldn't find on Amazon. I found a similar product, but it was made of plastic and I'm going to guess low quality.
Good news my friend! I found on eBay this eraser pen from Dspiae, which is another great brand, that can be shipped from Texas. I hope it can help: www.ebay.com/itm/186064869010?itmmeta=01HZR0JDP95G8PZS6GNBAZCZ7D&hash=item2b52549692:g:0OgAAOSwN85k9oLd&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4HvaiZFrMrRbAWRP2j0WvIwRgT2BFPvoXShDmXfJWndKQLxqjShoNZeE76Q2M3Kd4KQvUlj0Wu21DHBBrhnQebktxWB%2FHa9yjjETtwZq76VP1pEpdcsfK5E29oH86gd3Dmqvz7I3O5hS2yWMN2sjdEnQ04OvaWzD7lPwmvwAEg8xsoBN%2Fe6Us3MraqmHB%2B8ANpfsc6Q%2FVvfMwGe%2F%2BEqlNL4Bsoepki5eYig8z9ti3pHRDCuB2btCX8hE4afthLe7zyDptmh61f8OwYLZQOWUPY2plU3MxVpDMdUt6yz9cy8u%7Ctkp%3ABFBMnNvJgP5j @detrickward
You forgot the number 1 best option for any beginner in gunpla is using the gundam marker panel liner or panel liner pour type. It comes in 3 colors, easier to find and super easy to use. Plus you can even use just alcohol to gently remove excess ink. Any age gap can use it.
@@TeaandGunpla same at first but when I learned how to properly use it I get the same results as like applying a tamiya paint. It just takes time patience and a really steady hand. For beginners its the best option that they can use.
Just wanted to comment and say that your panel lining advice with the fountain-like pen changed my panel lining experience today. I gave it a shot with the weathering stuff and it was so pleasant, easy to clean up, and more reliable to apply. Thank you!!
I am glad you find the video useful!
Another way to remove excess ink is with an eraser, ethyl or isopropyl alcohol on a piece of microfiber (depending on the region, these may be easier or cheaper to obtain). I also recommend the 20x gundam marker for unions or the 30x for the rest, again it may be easier to get and start using in certain countries and also the chance of break the pices is less
Thanks for sharing!
Tamiya tends to actually take longer to dry enough to clean, for anything less than a deep panel line, in my exp. So I just started using the acrylic washes (all water based) I've had for decades, thanks to miniature painting. ^_^ A *much* wider array of colours to choose from, too! And a LOT more beginner friendly (so I always recommend this, instead of Tamiya/MrHobby to new builders)!
I started using washes too lately, its really nice to be able to just clean with some water!
Thank you for this video! I will try one of the methods, if I manage to find the supplies... No shop here where I live sells them :(
Thank you for watching! I hope you can maybe find some good online shop that can deliver in your area, that would be your best bet....
Hey nice video :) I just got a similar eraser tool and was wondering how to clean it. I've read you can use enamel thinner to clean it but I can't manage to get the black out of it. and is already pretty dirty after cleaning a few pieces (I used Tamiya panel liner )
Thank you! First of all, don’t expect miracles. You can clean it but it won’t get white again. What it will do is stopping leaving black streak marks. With Tamiya just get zippo lighter fluid, damp the eraser and pass it multiple times on some absorbent paper. Repeat the process until it doesn’t leave any color on the paper. Still, be prepared to change the tip at least once for every kit, if not more.
@@TeaandGunpla I see, this makes sense. I saw someone showing a perfectly white tip and saying they used it already on like 3 kits, so my expectations were a bit skewed. Still one tip per kit is not that bad, not sure if it's worth it over regular cotton buds tho. Thanks for the quick answer!
No worries! I still think they clean better than cotton buds, and they're more eco friendly too!
With the acrylic paint method does it require a pre-coat?
Only if you painted your model. If you did use acrylic paints you need to use acrylic safe varnishes, like Vallejo gloss varnish for example.
@TeaandGunpla I'm confused. So if I have a plain Gunpla I need to varnish it first then use acrylic paint?
So, if you do not plan to paint your Gunpla, you don’t need to precoat, unless you’re using the Tamiya panel liner. Both the acrylic and the Mr weathering can be use on bare plastic without any worry. If you instead want to paint your model, you need to use a gloss coat AFTER you finished your paint job. This is to protect the colors. I hope this is a bit more clear! Let me know if you have any more questions. If you also plan to paint your model with acrylics I have a video up specifically on the matter, where I cover priming, painting, coatings and panel lining
@TeaandGunpla ill check it out, you've been very helpful! I'm thinking of just brush painting for now. Would you know if acrylics are safe with the Ray's Studio metallic markers?
No worries! Ray Studio works fine with acrylics but if you make a mistake and use the Ray Studio Correcting marker, that could totally ruin the acrylic paint. So I would suggest to be really careful!
What do you recommend using for the pre coat?
I find the Mr. Hobby spray top coat to be pretty good, but there's other brands that works as well, like Tamiya for example. Just remember that to be able to clean the panel linier properly and have it flow nicely you need to apply a gloss top coat. The flat/matte one won't work.
hello from central Mexico..I just watched your video on panel lining gundam...
still have a question...
I have primed and painted my kit Vallejo acrylics, then put Tamiya Acrylic X22 Gloss,Clear
QUESTION.. can I use tamiya enamel panel liner...
and with WHAT do I clean it off with?
zippo, airbrush cleaner, iso 95% to 99%?
so that the acrylic gloss coat and under paints don't get damaged...
THANK YOU
I answered you on your other comment on the painting tutorial
I really want to try Mr.Hobby, some people said lighter fluid can also be used as clean up, is that true?
Lighter fluid works for the Tamiya panel liner. It won’t clean Mr. Hobby Weathering Color properly. You will need to get the Mr. Color Thinner
hello , really informative video! just wanted to ask if i can use bosny top coat no.191 (flat clear) for top coating. I am going to use tamiya panel liner so im really concerned about the plastic if that will make it brittle .
Also , are there any other panel liners with a thin brush in bottle?prefer an easy application
Hi, you should first apply a gloss coat (like the bosny 190) before panel lining with Tamiya, to make sure the plastic does not crack. Once the panel liner is dry you can apply the flat clear 191 without issues. Make sure you don’t spray too much of it and keep it at a good distance.
I always used Tamiya or Mr. Weathering color as panel liners, which are the best in the category. You could try also the Gundam Markers, they are really easy to use. But I think that the result is a bit less nice compared to the others.
@@TeaandGunpla thanks!.. unfortunately the clear (no.190) bosny is out of stock in my country.
Can I use the matt one for finishing and top coating as well?
You can it but I would not advise you to do it. A gloss coat will give a flat surface to work on, so both the panel lining and especially the clean up will be easier. The matte is instead more rough and you risk to not be able to clean properly the smudges. Maybe check if you can find a different brand like Mr. Hobby glossy topcoat
@@TeaandGunpla Yeah , I ordered Mr hobby gloss and matt coats now.
In my opinion they are top notch products. Let me know if everything turns out ok
Hello! Thanks for the tutorial, really helps a lot for a noob like me. What do you think is the best time to panel line? While in the runners, each part after separating away from runners, or after building each unit? (Of course after top coating also) thank you in advance!
Thank you!
I personally panel line after I cut the part off the runner and I cleaned all the nub marks. While on the runner the piece is harder to move around and get all the spots properly filled, I also prefer having already sanded and brushed away all the plastic dust.
What you don’t want to do is panel lining after you built the model. The ink will go between the parts and leak around, making way more messy to clean up!
@@TeaandGunpla Thank you! You explain so well in both video and text. I hope you make a weathering guide soon.
Thanks!
Surely the weathering will be a topic on one of the next videos, don’t worry and stay tuned.
How long do you wait for the panel lines to dry before you clean them?
Usually 5 to 10 minutes. It really depends on the temperature and humidity of the surroundings. A good way to understand if the liquid is dry is to look at the piece it under a bright light. If it’s not shiny anymore you can start cleaning.
What's your opinion on gundam markers (pour type) ? I used it in 2 models, has the nice perk that it cleans with alcohol
I have not been using them too much. They are indeed great for beginners due to their easy use but I feel that the result is not as crisp as the liquid panel liners.
@@TeaandGunpla thanks for your honest opinion, I'm indeed a beginner, just done 2 models til now, I'll continue using them until I feel I need something better.
No worries. Remember that there is no right or wrong in Gunpla. If you’re happy with the markers keep using them! And welcome to the hobby :)
@@TeaandGunpla thanks, and thanks for your awesome videos.
Thank you for watching them!
Oof, GL trying to find that Panel Line Eraser pen in the USA. lol. I can't even get ahold of it on Amazon. Great vid and info. Thanks.
You’re not the first one to tell how hard is to find some of this products in the USA… I am actually wondering if it could be a good idea to open an online shop, I have easy access to a lot of really good items. Let’s see, maybe in the future there will be some news! Thanks also for your kind words!
@@TeaandGunpla I would at the very least suggest that, if possible, you do some sort of Amazon linking to the items you recommend. Any sort of partner program sounds like a smart idea. I think that Ray Studio Panel Line Eraser was the only item I couldn't find on Amazon. I found a similar product, but it was made of plastic and I'm going to guess low quality.
Good news my friend! I found on eBay this eraser pen from Dspiae, which is another great brand, that can be shipped from Texas. I hope it can help:
www.ebay.com/itm/186064869010?itmmeta=01HZR0JDP95G8PZS6GNBAZCZ7D&hash=item2b52549692:g:0OgAAOSwN85k9oLd&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4HvaiZFrMrRbAWRP2j0WvIwRgT2BFPvoXShDmXfJWndKQLxqjShoNZeE76Q2M3Kd4KQvUlj0Wu21DHBBrhnQebktxWB%2FHa9yjjETtwZq76VP1pEpdcsfK5E29oH86gd3Dmqvz7I3O5hS2yWMN2sjdEnQ04OvaWzD7lPwmvwAEg8xsoBN%2Fe6Us3MraqmHB%2B8ANpfsc6Q%2FVvfMwGe%2F%2BEqlNL4Bsoepki5eYig8z9ti3pHRDCuB2btCX8hE4afthLe7zyDptmh61f8OwYLZQOWUPY2plU3MxVpDMdUt6yz9cy8u%7Ctkp%3ABFBMnNvJgP5j
@detrickward
great tutorial thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I was looking for a perfect video, and I got one
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed the video!
You forgot the number 1 best option for any beginner in gunpla is using the gundam marker panel liner or panel liner pour type.
It comes in 3 colors, easier to find and super easy to use.
Plus you can even use just alcohol to gently remove excess ink.
Any age gap can use it.
I know about the Gundam Markers, but I’ve never been too happy with the results. That’s why I decided not to include them in this tutorial.
@@TeaandGunpla same at first but when I learned how to properly use it I get the same results as like applying a tamiya paint.
It just takes time patience and a really steady hand.
For beginners its the best option that they can use.
Maybe I’ll give them another shot. Could be an idea for an extra video on other ways to panel line!
❤
I personally wouldn’t recommend that panel lining since it eats through plastic sometimes
Which one are you talking about? Apart from the cracking of the Tamiya I never had any issues with the others