As a Tasmanian, do you really think this is what we want? This is a football state. Tassie government has already forked out too much money for "Tassie hawks". I don't see how this is any different than the current arrangement and would probably cost Tassie more. Yea no thank you
Why would Tasmania want a team called North Melbourne? Would have to be re-named Tasmanian Roos. Will never happen. And 11 home games in Melbourne and 11 in Tasmania? So, the Roos never play in Brisbane or Sydney or WA or SA?
@@theoliverpool22 that's just not living in the real world that's living in a fantasy world. Fact is if you are a Collingwood, Carlton, Richmond or just about any team in Melbourne fan in WA you either never see them in a season or see them once so again we need to start living in the real world and not in the world of adolescent fantasy
As a Collingwood fan, I'm glad that Eddie is reduced to broadcasting his hairbrained schemes in a safe and controlled manner - at a TV camera - rather than at the Pies board meetings.
Eddie is full of it, won’t be supported by Tasmanians if it’s a relocated North Melbourne. Investment in Hospitals must be a greater priority than a new stadium.
Oh to he'll with it,, Lets call it the Forrester Tasmanian North Melbourne Skippy The Bush kangaroo Victorian Hobart Great ocean road football club..!!
And Sydney is actually a relocated South Melbourne team but everyone has now forgotten that and embraced it as Sydney just like Tasmania would in years to come. Can’t keep having struggling clubs in Victoria like this and it’s either a Victorian club that needs to do something with Tasmania or Gold Coast
@@knight2425 Absolutely correct” but add Fitzroy to Brisbane, as a kangaroos supporter’ it makes sense’ because the AFL are not going to continue propping us up’ especially if a Tasmanian side was offered a license?
I think a similar thing should be done with Gold Coast. Turn them into the Northern Suns, have them play predominantly in NT and Queensland and give them priority access to NT players. They already have some up and coming NT superstars I think they would get around. As a smaller club with a shorter history this is a much easier sell.
@@YodgeeGaming-wv1dk they literally have footy games in the middle of summer. Basically all year round, the nt works like cricket with it seasons. The reason they won’t do an nt team is cause no other state will see the premiership again 😂 if they wanna make a nt team they’ll have to have a policy where 2/3rds of the team have to be white fellas just to make it fair 😂 and only the whites will complain about weather, aboriginals, you think they care? I’ve been told by aboriginal elders, women who would teach the kids and this is what they’d pull, oh it’s too hot in the classroom to study but you’re just fine to play footy in direct 40 degree sun barefoot on scolding hot sand….. but because of pc culture, you can’t be this blatant when saying stuff like this without some soft doodle getting offended. But that’s why they don’t have a team, and why they probably never will.
Nothing wrong with them being on the Gold Coast. It’s the nickname that needs to change. What a joke, the suns? How poxy and whack, the mascot is embarrassing, that’s why no one wants to barrack for them or go to games, look at the whack jumper designs. Start calling them the emus, kookaburras, fk now the bears ain’t around anymore name them the koalas even, something with appeal, let alone the designs you could make from those. Idc that they’re based on Gold Coast qld where it’s sunny. That only shows how corny the people are who came up with it. That’s the problem. It’s the same with gws regardless of on field success, oh yeah our nick name is the giants, so our mascot is a bloke in a bigger mascot suit….. how pitiful, Leigh matthews named them this, yet sounds like a 4 year olds answer. And greater western Sydney giants. What a mouthful. Could just called them the western Sydney stars, which would’ve made sense in hindsight with how many stars they’ve had at the club, and would’ve made sick jumper designs again. No finesse. None of these clubs need to move. They all have their plans and processes for success which they’ll all eventually reach. All the other stuff is an easy fix, if they do what I’ve said above. It may sound trivial, but an average mascot and jumper/logo look will attract minimal numbers regardless of success achieved.
It’s actually quite a good idea. GWS has the population base around it to grow. It’s critical it remains. Gold Coast needs to go, they don’t have the population base or local support to be of any benefit to the AFL
@@YodgeeGaming-wv1dk mate I have NITV and have watched games be played during the middle of aussies summer, which is December to February. And if you don’t then what’s with nt doing cricket /nba system with premiers of 2020/2021 seasons then? Literally read up on Bill Dempsey after hearing about him in hall of fame and saw this for myself when he played for Darwin buffaloes with his stats being written out in the example I provided above? And what’s the dumb thing I said? And what’s Darwin and gold coasts weather got to do with it? What research must I do? Aboriginals are use to the warm weather, they wouldn’t prefer playing in Gold Coast just because of degree temperature when they can play right near home where all their family is and represent the nt, that was the whole point of the initial comment, you claim it wouldn’t happen cause no one would want too, which is just stupid and ignorant, and then told you why they don’t have an afl team, what you think they couldn’t find 30 players who wanted to rep them? All the aboriginal footballers would put their hand straight up, and that’s when it goes back to my point as to why they haven’t got one, you can’t make a rule that only so many aboriginal players can be on the list of an afl team based in nt where it’s predominantly aboriginal based, at least as far as their numbers go, and with that, you’d have a full list of freak aboriginal players, just a straight out aboriginal team, and as I’ve said, if that happens, every state can say goodbye to winning a premiership again. Yeah the person who wrote the comment may have been talking about the suns being the northern suns and playing split and you said they wouldn’t be keen on that, you may and probably are right on that, which is why they don’t get many games happening there and even more to the point of why the nt doesn’t have an afl team which is what I was making. And it’s easy to understand if you use common sense. So I don’t know what you’re getting at with your comments but they’re useless in my eyes cause I have nothing to research, I do know what I’m talking about, and I can confidently say this is true or at least logical based on the information I’ve provided and the obvious fact that there is no nt team. Have a nice day mate You should think before you type at all.
It will take 30 years to build a Stadium in Tassie. the Greenies will want to have a study on the Type of Grass you put in there and wether or not Seagulls will be impacted ?
This looks like something that was put together in 30mins.. I doubt Tassie will want a 'revamped' NM, or however you want to call it.. They want their own team.. a 19th team.. not too hard to comprehend.. stop making things more difficult for no bloody reason.. Eddie, would you want the Pies to be relocated?
This has been the problem with our game for the last 20 years.. "influencial" people are being far to proactive in advocating change, whether it be, teams, rules, fixtures, jumpers, scoring reviews or whatever.. Just stop already! What made our game so great was its tough, physical nature and the lack of stupid rules. Stop trying to turn everything into a problem and just enjoy the game.
it's cos they're getting sued 20 million for concussions every year. They're trying to pander to all their corporate interests which means create a fake beautiful perfect image that all the players are 100% clean free of drugs and marketable so they can get their next cotton on sponsorships. Money corrupts and underlying the corruption the truth will reveal that AFL is destroying the roots of the game and highly greedy and do not care about the average fan.
As a proud Tasmanian, I would not support this team in any capacity! Nor would any Tasmanians! They will simply support their orgiginal clubs. Tasmania is a proud traditional state and would only follow the Dark Green gurnsey. This is a great deal for North or any other team, but not a great deal for Tasmanians, who want their own team, to call Tasmania, to be soley grown from Tasmania, not some cash grab team that is AFL run! If you put a team in Tasmania, it will grow. The players that will come from the draft will be amazing and will create something that the Crows, Port, Swans and the WA teams have. The supporters are so passionate that they will fill the staduim every week. I think Eddy here is forgetting the tasmanian people and what they stand for. He talk of growing up in North Melbourne..well imagine going to a Tasmanian game as a born and bred Tasmanian! The AFL need to relocate North to Canberra and become the Canberra Kangaroos, simple. But dont rip of the Tasmanian public...this will be a failed team if this happens and a sad day for the AFL!
What a stupid idea from Eddy. Tasmania deserve their own team. They aren't going to be proud of a team that's half Melbourne's. Half baked idea for tazzy but this idea might suit a northern territory team.
more clubs in vic have fought for their team and existence than those merged and died, all of Melbourne, North, Hawthorn, Bulldogs, St. Kilda, Richmond survived. Don't believe your club is ever broke. All these clubs were once bankrupt and lived on for 30+ years and thrived. AFL has much money in the coffers and a dead club is only deceased because their fans have given up hope.
I agree standalone won't work - but I don't think Ed's proposal will either. The problem with this issue is you can't talk about it rationally, because it always gets broken down to "passion" - and there's certainly plenty of that there. But realistically it's a small population spread over a fairly large area and people get sick of travelling large distances. Are they getting full crowds at the current Hawks and North games? I'm sure they argue that "but that's not our own team", but if they're all that passionate about football and demanding more surely 4 or 5 games a year at low capacity grounds should be selling out. A slight side (and I know the populations are very different especially in football preference) I think the AFL has it almost right in Canberra - 3 games at Manuka, against different opponents each year. Enough games to have football aficionados wanting to go to all 3, but not so much that they decide "if I miss this week, there's another in a fortnight...". In 4 games so far in Tas this year, Blundstone arena has averaged crowds fewer than 7000, UTAS has averaged under 14K - both have a capacity of about 20K. What changes if those games were a local Tas side? Maybe a couple sellouts in the first year or so. Part of it is dwindling interest, but a larger part is that the more accessible something is, the less people worry about missing out.....so you're forever putting off going until "next time". If both Tas and the AFL are serious, I think they need to negotiate the exact success criteria, and have a contingency in place in case things don't work out (including that if it falls apart, it won't be revisited in the immediate future). Tas (presumably) doesn't want to be left with a barely used stadium, but I'm guessing the AFL doesn't want another hungry club to feed....
Tassie has 34k people already signed to say they will get a membership. Thats more than gws and gold coast together. If we dont get our own team we'll turn to soccer. Basketball has a state side, Big Bash has a state side. A league will have a side in no time.
I like that Eddie is at least bringing an idea to the table! Most people just bring whinging and complaining. It was not a fully fledged plan but at the very least the man put up his solution and not a complaint
Yes. I think Roos should be folded into Tasmania, not merged. They can take the core of them and relocate to become Tasmania Devils - not keeping the Roos name. It gives a fresh start, but with a bit of starting infrastructure, and diehard Roos fans will follow the team to Tassie regardless. I think them still being half North Melbourne is what sets them off.
This solution is the worst possible solution. Tasmanians will hate it. North Melbourne fans will hate it. The Tasmanian government won’t support it. It won’t work. Ed is full of it and only wants to recommend what benefits Collingwood.
I agree with most of this. There is no way AFL needs a 19th team. People want to see their own teams get success. It's never going to happen if you have 19 teams. Furthermore, there isn't enough good players for 19 teams.
9:34 Can anyone find any articles on John Elliot wanting Carlton to become the ''New South Wales Blues'', and move some of their home games to NSW? I can't find anything on it? Does anyone remember this?
Eddie's a big thinker who often is shouted down. He's a visionist. At least he expresses solutions. Caro's response was to immediately to shut the idea up. Eddie's close to football stake holders.
Eddie saying he feels for Nth supporters, I grew up in Fitzroy and no Fitzroy supporter supports the Brisbane Lions. Most support a team because it represents where they are from, not because of a nickname. Would you still support your team if it was relocated to another state?
This is exactly my thought process if the AFL were to move my Sainters. I would be straight off to a different team, without hesitation (most likely Carlton). It should be a no brainer. All AFL supporters should support teams from their home state, and if you don't, that's very strange.
@@swordiexd YES, I’m a Carlton supporter, it’s where I was born and many family members are Carlton. If they were the NSW Blues, would I still support them? No fcking way - I’m a proud Victorian, and my 2nd team would have been Nth funny enough, since I’m from the Northern suburbs
Spot on North Melbourne need a circuit breaker a spark to bring them back from the Abiss. Tasmania need a football team playing on there soil because they are the only state that does not have one. It has to happen It is sound economics as Eddy said the world is not good and who knows how it will be in the future.
Hahah his comparison with the NFL and LA Rams and St. Louis Rams. The people of St. Louis still hate Stan Kroenke for relocating the franchise to LA. They hate him with a passion. What a poor comparison Ed.
Eddie again with the Tasmania team, which I'm all for by the way. Putting up ideas on Footy Classified is one thing, actually being in a position to do something is another. Either it's the latter or it may as well be Mike Sheahan standing up there preaching.
I can't see why Tasmania can't support their own team if Geelong can. Tasmania have two cities of 200k each. They could have 5 games in each city and would surely get good attendance if Geelong can. (I appreciate it is hard to find the talent for an extra team mind you)
Er... you might want to check the statistics. Launceston only has 100,000. It's no bigger than Ballarat or Bendigo. I know because I grew up there. And Launceston is 2hrs away from Hobart (without stopping for coffee breaks), which is probably not much different than some regional Victorians take to travel to regular AFL games. The problem is that the highways in Tasmania aren't safe double lane freeway standard and there will never be a train. The saving grace is that Hobart makes up the bulk of Tasmania's population growth now and it's booming. Don't get me wrong. I want this to get the green light as much as anyone but we have to be realistic and let Hobart have the overwhelming majority of home games. Launceston should never have been the chosen location for the Hawks to play a handful of junk "home" matches anyway.
@@mike8633 Don't think so. If it has shrunk, it's very minor. But it doesn't matter because Launceston hardly gets any bigger either. You think Adelaide never changes? You've seen nothing until you visit Tasmania (Hobart a minor exception to the rule). That's part of its appeal to some but for me personally, I can't stand it.
@@eddielong8663 Yeah Geelong's population has grown a lot over the years (now 250k vs Hobart 203k). Where as Hobart used to be bigger than Geelong. I suppose I can see where the AFL is coming from if the population contracts (how would they have enough supporters)
I’m a Tasmanian Collingwood supporter. I don’t want a Tasmanian team for too many reasons to mention here. I would never barrack for a Tasmanian team - no one would. There is nowhere to put a stadium; people cannot find homes to live in in Hobart. It’s not a priority for our state. No one goes to North Melbourne games in Hobart as it is. I don’t understand why there is such a push for a Tasmanian team - we all have a long established relationship with our existing afl teams!!!
Because you speak for the whole state, right? North "home" games are not attended in good numbers because they don't belong to us. Even Hawks support plateaued out a long time ago. The new local club once up and running, isn't trying to win over Tasmanian rusted-on supporters of other clubs. But you'll find yourself increasingly in the minority as time goes on.
We gave Queensland and W.A a Grand Final. I never wanted it away from the "G" but offer Tasmania a chance to host the Grand Final in 2-3 years time. Watch a stadium be built. Give it a roof and have sport all year round in Tasmania. Honestly with the crowds Melbourne are pulling in atm (besides Queen's Bday) offer them the Stadium rename them the Tassie Demons (Devils). A "quality" team like the Demons maybe what brings the crowds from day 1, not wait 3 years till they can recruit enough talent to do it. Wont happen and probably shouldnt but its an option.
Melbourne is averaging the 5th highest home game attendances this season. Don’t buy into the media narrative that Melbourne’s crowds are down. The entire league is averaging its lowest crowds since 1996. 2019 the last season without Covid, only Melbourne, Carlton and St Kilda are getting better crowds this year. Every other club has gone backwards.
Tassie deserves a football team before Goldcoast and GWS. North Melbourne will eventually come good the best thing about premiership's is the slog getting there.
here's my proposal. Relocate Collingwood to tasmania as punishment for Collingwood not doing good enough with treating black people fairly. Make sure they get enough concessions and draft picks so they do better on field, and give them a beautiful do better stadium and call them the do good tassie meat pies.
Eddie is absolutely obnoxious, best thing for Collingwood was him leaving. He is a self absorbed child. That idea is amazing for north, would make sense for them to take it given even when they are up and about they struggle financially and with attendances. Although it’s something that will never happen and be accepted by Tasmania. It’s a big footy state with loads of AFL players that have come through over the years and deserves their own team. North in tassie is not the same. Period.
To be fair to Eddy this would suit northern territory if they want to have a team there, but Tasmania should have better then this. The name would even suit NT Northern Roos
updated plan, using the same concept while changing a few key things 1 it would be the Kangaroos. 2 bases will allow Tasmania to fund a VFL and Devil programs with a victorian base. It will bring more economic opportunity with the ability to attract Tasmanian and Victorian sponsors. and the idea that a club will only play in Melbourne and Tasmania, is because this league isn't home and away play league. How about 10 games in Tasmania and 8 games in Melbourne one game in Geelong and then 3 games on the road. this then doesn't give an unfair advantage. and there will still be one home game in Melbourne they can be played at Norths home at Arden Street Oval, with temporary stands much like the f1 grand stands. judging they get 13,000 per game. this means the heritage is still there while the ability for Tasmania to is welcomed.
Two bases won’t work for a simple reason that who’d be up for it? Players and coaching staff would be living in Melbourne one week and Hobart the following week. Where do you put your family? Where do you enrol your kids in school? We know the harmful effects FIFO can have on families as seen during the mining boom, you can bet that any promising player or coach will take the first rival contract offer they receive just for some stability.
Have to agree with Eddie that the talent is spread thin already. Not sure if Eddie’s solution is the one. I do think there are too many Melbourne-based teams and this number needs to be reduced. You keep the big 4 clubs and add Geelong and Hawthorn to that. Leaves the Dees, Saints, Roos and Dogs. Could look at merging these 4 into 2 clubs. That will leave 8 Melb clubs. Instead of bringing a NT team, have the Suns represent Northern Australia.
While the idea might sound good on paper, you are going to lose thousands and thousands of supporters from each club. Families who have supported a club for generations, some will transition to another club, others will just not follow footy anymore.
You might not be stupid. But that idea is. Obviously you don't support either the Dees, Saints, Roos or Dogs, so you couldn't really care less about warping their respective futures. The Saints and Roos are vulnerable for sure but they each have potential to climb out of trouble given the proper direction. It wasn't that long ago that the Dees and Dogs were in trouble aswell and while not two of the bigger clubs, they each have a solid and stable fanbase now. The Suns are the team that should be relocated to the Apple Isle. Hardly anyone cares about them, including some of their own players and staff it seems. Just rebadge their location name, mascott, guernsey and song. And overtime, the club will become mostly fully local. The NT is too small. If TAS has been denied a club for so long mostly because it's "too small", then there's no way the even smaller NT should be granted one simultaneously aswell. Would be better off giving a 3rd team to Perth. Its 2.1million should be large enough to sustain 3 clubs by now.
@@eddielong8663 I personally don't care about Saints and Roos, but I like the Dogs and my family are members of the Dogs, so it would affect me too. I don't want them gone. In saying that, I'm torn whether a team should be abolished from Melbourne, on one side you have a ton of history and culture for each of the clubs, but on the other side, you have some struggling clubs that could do better in another location......There are too many teams in Melbourne, they want to expand the league, but there aren't enough good players to go around. I just don't know what the solution is.
Eddie cannot just take a breath and let the other panellists discuss the proposal, he's insufferable like this. The solution is merge the Gold Coast and North Melbourne and make a new Tas team, keeping the league at 18 teams.
So much empathy for north melbourne fans in this thread, so much understanding on their want to keep their team in melbourne. North do not want to play in tassie. they're forced to, the way Eddie should be forced into a restraining chair to lose 20 kgs, put an apple in his mouth and empty his pocket of every cent so his big mouth doesn't influence the might North melbourne kangaroos.
Making all the non Victorian teams go to either Melbourne or tassie to play against North Melbourne without them having to leave their tiny corner of Australia is BS. One of the most stupidest things I've heard come out of his mouth, and the fact that none of the three panellist said anything about it is damning. We know Ross Lyon and Caroline is a Eddie Stooge but i would have thought that Matthew would have mentioned that this gives one team a bigger advantage then every other Victorian based club including Eddies beloved Pies, and gives to big an advantage than the other Non-Victorian clubs.
Hit the nail on the head! The AFL can't afford a new team. Would be economic suicide during the times about to come. I'd say give them more than 11 Tassie games, and relocate them there.
I'm in with McGuire on this one. I encourage all lovers of 'Our Game' to recognise and embrace his vision for North relocating to Tasmania. Barassi seemed rusted on Melbourne through and through. He saw the value of a new challenge in a move to Carlton. He coaches them to a Premiership in 1970. Fate, combined with his football brilliance, and a team made up of talented Frankenstein parts became a highly competitive and respected team, due largely to the few at North Melbourne who saw their worth; Aylett, Joseph, Mantello and Billy Stephen who Barassi brought over from Fitzroy. The Kangas then catapult themselves into football folklore, thus becoming a football powerhouse team of the 70's. Alongside Hawthorn. Until 1976, they had won two. Since then, the Hawks have won another ten flags, and it's not just for their Thursday night sausage sizzles. Good governance, and a ruthless Modus operandi from the club's re-development and leadership from the board, coaching personnel all the way through to their club culture and of course, maintaining an unrelenting conga line of champion players and talent in vast reserves. North have won just four. Only four in our proud history. What have we done differently to Hawthorn? We have blooded and fielded greats that other teams in our halcyon years have envied and surely only wished for their own. Strategies under Pagan's tutelage in the 90's on and off the field forced all other clubs to devise new methods and tactics to keep up with us. That yielded us two premierships. We almost got there with Scott and Brayshaw in 2014. What on earth is happening now? Isn't it finally time to get that winning sensation back for North? As 'shinboners' why not embolden ourselves with a big new enterprise? Or, do we as North merely maintain the staus quo with a rudderless and frail club culture on and off the field as it is now; steered, (not navigated), by our current 'woke' board who are more into 'grouphugs' and cosy fireside chats where the coach is compelled as directed from above, to apologise for a post game 'spray' for fear that this current crop of bedwetters and cry-babies, and their Mums' might be offended? C'mon, how many players have we jettisoned in the name of a 're-build strategy' who have gained career longevity and gone on to become premiership players and greats at other clubs as a consequence of North's shortsightedness before the best of their talent and qualities were fully recognised? If we are to stay on in Melbourne with no plans other than to continue on as we are, what becomes of those Royal Blue and White stripes? What happens next? This great club of ours as a statement of fact becomes just another mere talking point for the likes of Caroline Wilson and her co-horts in the media who remain unwilling to at least investigate McGuire's alternatives. Let's re-invent ourselves, and as we know from Kanga generations past, patience gains all things. Shinboners used to run through the banners held up high by our cheer squads didn't they? Run and BURST through it together with vigour and as a team, rather than meekly ducking under it so as to avoid touching it as other clubs do thesedays. Take a knee and bow our heads in shame? That is not us. Blue and white banners, floggers, scarves and flags with belief behind them are us. McGuire may be an aquired taste, but he ain't stupid. This bloke has always had the very best intentions to see this game flourish. Could he perhaps become the new president of North? I encourage North supporters everywhere to recognise and embrace his vision for an opportunity in Tasmania. Listen carefully to his presentation just now. Get Clarkson and see what happens next. "The greatest risk is to not take any risk at all!"
No. No. No. I understand the passion and you obviously love the Apple Isle, but I'm sorry to say this. Tasmania has been disrespected for long enough now. As a former Tasmanian myself who may or may not return one day, I'd rather the AFL gave TAS the complete 🖕 instead of granting us someone else's mess that needs to be cleaned up. It's a great test of character for the AFL and we will finally know where they stand once and for all when it comes to the state. They really think that little of us? Fine. We walk away and the AFL losers Tasmanian corporate support forever. And we finally know when it comes to the AFL's stance on North aswell, and the Suns for that matter. No hate on North. I honestly want them to succeed just like all clubs. But they had their chance to relocate to the Gold Coast and they didn't. Was it a better or worse decision to refuse the offer? Who knows. But bottom line is they're still struggling and now the AFL has an even bigger basket case in the Suns. I know it sounds horrible. But the Roos will be more respected if they kept fighting until the bitter end if/when the AFL pulls the plug on them. North have history, and it's far more honourable to bow out with grace than to be saved. And I would honestly say the same thing if it was my club (WB) in the same position. It should be the Suns who get gutted first anyway. Let the AFL be the ones who make that decision on which one of the two needs to be let go, or instead to keep them both and keep Tassie excluded. The AFL is ultimately the biggest loser no matter what.
Yet West Coast / Freo / Adel / Port etc have to travel for hours every 2nd week. Tassie have to travel further than Melbourne regardless of the concessions.
It seems like a good idea to me, but I'm not Tasmanian. Question for Tasmanians reading: What if they did Eddie's plan, & called it the ''North Melbourne - Tasmania Kangaroos'', kind of like in NRL, you have the ''St George - Illawarra Dragons'', ''Cronulla - Sutherland Sharks'' etc. Would you support it? Cheers
Just expand to 20 already. Tasmania need a stand alone team. After that i'd either have a canberra or a 3rd WA team as the 20th franchise. Moving the roos makes no sense
@@themaninawhitecoatandhat7503 A third WA would be my preferred of the three, especially with how rapidly Mandurrah and the south west is growing. Canberra just makes sense population wise and would be a one city team. I cant see NT happening until the eventual expansion to 22
I would go for a 3rd WA team, based in the North side of Perth, called the Northern Crocs, which has direct ties with NT. WA has a high indigenous culture in the north and a lot of mining for sponsorships etc. Could play out of Optus Stadium with sometimes games in Darwin, removing those other clubs from trips up there. Let the north of the country have a team made for them, that they can support - but generally playing and residing in a proper big set up footy town (Perth).
Tasmania has the worst economic, health and education outcomes in Australia and Eddy expects it to continue underwriting Melbourne’s over saturated market. And to fit the bill for a $750 million stadium to serve as a ‘second home base’. The plan is offensive and life long fans of the game will turn the footy off in Tassie just to spite the AFL. Great time for the A-league to start growing their game ⚽️
Dear Ed. If this was Collingwood going through what North Melbourne is going through how your fans except this. Good idea, but if Tassie wants a football team then they need to keep trying with the AFL.
Caro's spot on if a tassie was a powerhouse with of these concessions every afl president would take those away...especially Collingwood. North are where Melbourne was 8 years ago and it might take another 5 years to get it right...so be it.
Eddie is worth a fortune. He's been buying high end property in Melbourne for years. His media salaries are pocket money in comparison. Good on him. But you're right -- not relatable.
North, Western Bulldogs and St. Kilda merger is the way forward for the over saturation of clubs in Victoria and for all 3 of those clubs. St. Kilda Bulldogs wearing blue and white (or whatever mix you want). 3 struggling clubs united into a superclub with a supporter base that would rival the Big 4, swimming in money, and with enough resources to thrive. The combined roster would also guarantee immediate short term success to embolden the new team and its supporter base to embrace the transition. Everything worked out pretty well for the Brisbane Lions (3 premierships within 7 years), only this time the team gets to stay in Victoria.
I agree with Eddie, it’s either north or st Kilda, st Kilda in in that much debt, there saying if Tassie was stand alone it would take 15/20 million a year to top them up, Tassie needs and deserves a team make it happen…
I hate the Mc Eddie with cheese but he's got some strong talking points, my only problem with his plan is all the other states miss out on going to watch the roo's. What about the fan's in other states that can't make it to Melbourne or Tasmanian to watch their team play
IF..they were to have a team in tassie, surely they would mascot their team as the "devils".. So in terms of namesake, that would make the blockbuster game the demons vs devil's..
Why the hell do you move North which at least has its stuff together off the field and actually is a functioning club when you could move GWS, which is a black hole for cash and will never have the support at Tasmania team will. I know the Tasmanian's don't want a relocated team but GWS would be much better (and frankly fold the Suns).
Good idea but You risk disenfranchising North and Tasmania supporters You will have apple none want. We don’t have the mentality of USA We love our teams They are our own Part of the fabric
Why don't people see. If Tassie wants a team then they will struggle for the first 10 years at least. Look at GC. but then the draft picks they get will prevent teams like North Melbourne and Adelaide from properly rebuilding through the draft. This means instead of having one team struggling you have 3. I'm a firm believer that Carlton and Brisbane's rebuilds were made twice as long as they should have been because of the concessions given to Gold Coast
send collingwood to Tassie. Perfect. Tasmanians love football and so do Collingwood. Collingwood deserve a holiday, how about one year holiday in Tassie, come home in the summer to visit family. Eddie could be the president. Call the club The tasmanian meat pies. Give them $200 player payments. Job done.
I'm a North fan and this makes sense to me. The idea of North becoming a superclub with Tasmania just fits. Finally supporting a team that has access to an AFL academy and broadening our market size will ensure we aren't the financial laughing stock of the league.
@@swordiexd Trust me as a north fan I follow this, people from our club talk about it all the time. We don't have the same spend luxuries that other big clubs do that draw players in. Being out of debt doesn't make you successful financially.
@@swordiexd are you sure North are the only club debt free? Pretty sure Richmond, Collingwood, Essendon, and West Coast haven’t had debt in a long time
Not exactly a fan of Caro but Ross calling her naive about helping tourism and unemployment was rude, and probably incorrect. I think it works help tourism and would provide some jobs.
so because North are an irrelevant rabble that needs to be constantly propped up by the other clubs, they should be rewarded with more home games, draft concessions and more funding? Yeah Ed, let's reward the mediocre for being mediocre...
@@georgekhoury9080 a team that actually has supporters, is relevant, has played finals regularly and can stand on its own two feet unlike North who are an absolute joke and rabble.
@@georgekhoury9080 😂 make me little boy. You're an angry little fella who supports a little club and can't accept the truth. You must have a lot of other 'small sized' insecurities eh!
What if the plan was time limited? Give the plan a solid 15-20 years to see if it works and the fans are happy, then that's great. However, if it doesn't work then there should be an option in the contract to revert it back to pure North Melbourne as it once was. I don't think this global recession is going to last forever.
The idea as a whole is the right direction forward, and I might say my envision of the future was to do this, but move the gold coast team down. Gold Coast doesn’t have the population or potential supporter base to run a team there… Teams have moved around and changed names so that’s not new. The games in Melbourne and Tasmania needs to change as the obviously need to move around the country, might work for the first 2 years but it would need to change.
No point moving Gold Coast, there are 9 teams in Melbourne + Geelong, why not just get rid of one of the smaller struggling ones? Then dissolve the name/brand..... and make a completely fresh new team in Tassie, don't relocate.
Create a new development competition with 14 new teams. 3 from TAS 2 from NSW, QLD, SA and WA 1 from NT, ACT and VIC. Let the competition get established for 5 years before introducing relegation/promotion with the AFL. On the first year relegate 3 teams and promote 1 so the comps even at 16 teams each. Get rid of the pre-season competition and extend the footy season to 30 games giving 1 home and 1 away match v everyone else. Everyone gets their own team and they get to the AFL on merit not location.
Add a fresh new Tasmanian team. With a full home and away season! 38 games 40 rounds 2 byes. Gives a chance for the likes of Fremantle that gets given a hard run home every season while Geelong get the cruise control fixtures
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Well done to Ed in uniting everyone with this idea. All current AFL clubs and the people of Tasmania would hate it.
His ideas are so bad, its almost like he's trolling lol
@@cliffbooth4826 I know. I cringe whenever Eddie mentions a 5 point plan.
I'd love to see North get booted down to Tasmania...
As a Tasmanian, do you really think this is what we want? This is a football state. Tassie government has already forked out too much money for "Tassie hawks". I don't see how this is any different than the current arrangement and would probably cost Tassie more. Yea no thank you
Why would Tasmania want a team called North Melbourne? Would have to be re-named Tasmanian Roos. Will never happen. And 11 home games in Melbourne and 11 in Tasmania? So, the Roos never play in Brisbane or Sydney or WA or SA?
good math
Bellerive Boomers.
Exactly. We want the Tassie Devils or we'll happily turn into a soccer state. 700k of us.
Hobart Hawks
Tassy Thumpers.
Good on him for putting ideas forward, but it’s a horrible one. Compromises the rest of competition, not just for the short term, but forever.
How does it compromise the comp
@@emorejhockey3082 if your a north Melbourne fan in WA your team never comes over.
@@theoliverpool22 that's just not living in the real world that's living in a fantasy world. Fact is if you are a Collingwood, Carlton, Richmond or just about any team in Melbourne fan in WA you either never see them in a season or see them once so again we need to start living in the real world and not in the world of adolescent fantasy
@@emorejhockey3082 ummmm 11 games in Melbourne and 11 games in Tassie. No other travel. There’s a start.
@@a1andy882 you really don't live on the real world do you, none of what you have said is actually a valid reason against the idea.
Probably the shittest idea Eddie's ever had.
Why would any Tasmanian identify with a team called "North Melbourne"?
Why would any Tasmanian identify with a Tasmanian team and support them when they already support a current team?
As a Collingwood fan, I'm glad that Eddie is reduced to broadcasting his hairbrained schemes in a safe and controlled manner - at a TV camera - rather than at the Pies board meetings.
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Comment of the day.
Love him or hate him, you have to admire Eddies passion for the game. He knows his stuff and should have a position at the AFL
Eddie is full of it, won’t be supported by Tasmanians if it’s a relocated North Melbourne. Investment in Hospitals must be a greater priority than a new stadium.
really short sighted. Tasmanians will just have to get over it. We'll take North Melbourne. Stadium will create wealth, and help fund things
Oh to he'll with it,,
Lets call it the Forrester
Tasmanian North Melbourne Skippy
The Bush kangaroo Victorian Hobart
Great ocean road football club..!!
@@jim210589 as long as they rename to tassie devils
And Sydney is actually a relocated South Melbourne team but everyone has now forgotten that and embraced it as Sydney just like Tasmania would in years to come. Can’t keep having struggling clubs in Victoria like this and it’s either a Victorian club that needs to do something with Tasmania or Gold Coast
@@knight2425 Absolutely correct” but add Fitzroy to Brisbane, as a kangaroos supporter’ it makes sense’ because the AFL are not going to continue propping us up’ especially if a Tasmanian side was offered a license?
Shove it Eddie
I think a similar thing should be done with Gold Coast. Turn them into the Northern Suns, have them play predominantly in NT and Queensland and give them priority access to NT players. They already have some up and coming NT superstars I think they would get around. As a smaller club with a shorter history this is a much easier sell.
Decent idea but there's not enough money in the NT I would think
@@YodgeeGaming-wv1dk they literally have footy games in the middle of summer. Basically all year round, the nt works like cricket with it seasons. The reason they won’t do an nt team is cause no other state will see the premiership again 😂 if they wanna make a nt team they’ll have to have a policy where 2/3rds of the team have to be white fellas just to make it fair 😂 and only the whites will complain about weather, aboriginals, you think they care? I’ve been told by aboriginal elders, women who would teach the kids and this is what they’d pull, oh it’s too hot in the classroom to study but you’re just fine to play footy in direct 40 degree sun barefoot on scolding hot sand….. but because of pc culture, you can’t be this blatant when saying stuff like this without some soft doodle getting offended. But that’s why they don’t have a team, and why they probably never will.
Nothing wrong with them being on the Gold Coast. It’s the nickname that needs to change. What a joke, the suns? How poxy and whack, the mascot is embarrassing, that’s why no one wants to barrack for them or go to games, look at the whack jumper designs. Start calling them the emus, kookaburras, fk now the bears ain’t around anymore name them the koalas even, something with appeal, let alone the designs you could make from those. Idc that they’re based on Gold Coast qld where it’s sunny. That only shows how corny the people are who came up with it.
That’s the problem. It’s the same with gws regardless of on field success, oh yeah our nick name is the giants, so our mascot is a bloke in a bigger mascot suit….. how pitiful, Leigh matthews named them this, yet sounds like a 4 year olds answer. And greater western Sydney giants. What a mouthful. Could just called them the western Sydney stars, which would’ve made sense in hindsight with how many stars they’ve had at the club, and would’ve made sick jumper designs again. No finesse.
None of these clubs need to move. They all have their plans and processes for success which they’ll all eventually reach. All the other stuff is an easy fix, if they do what I’ve said above. It may sound trivial, but an average mascot and jumper/logo look will attract minimal numbers regardless of success achieved.
It’s actually quite a good idea.
GWS has the population base around it to grow. It’s critical it remains.
Gold Coast needs to go, they don’t have the population base or local support to be of any benefit to the AFL
@@YodgeeGaming-wv1dk mate I have NITV and have watched games be played during the middle of aussies summer, which is December to February. And if you don’t then what’s with nt doing cricket /nba system with premiers of 2020/2021 seasons then? Literally read up on Bill Dempsey after hearing about him in hall of fame and saw this for myself when he played for Darwin buffaloes with his stats being written out in the example I provided above? And what’s the dumb thing I said? And what’s Darwin and gold coasts weather got to do with it? What research must I do? Aboriginals are use to the warm weather, they wouldn’t prefer playing in Gold Coast just because of degree temperature when they can play right near home where all their family is and represent the nt, that was the whole point of the initial comment, you claim it wouldn’t happen cause no one would want too, which is just stupid and ignorant, and then told you why they don’t have an afl team, what you think they couldn’t find 30 players who wanted to rep them? All the aboriginal footballers would put their hand straight up, and that’s when it goes back to my point as to why they haven’t got one, you can’t make a rule that only so many aboriginal players can be on the list of an afl team based in nt where it’s predominantly aboriginal based, at least as far as their numbers go, and with that, you’d have a full list of freak aboriginal players, just a straight out aboriginal team, and as I’ve said, if that happens, every state can say goodbye to winning a premiership again. Yeah the person who wrote the comment may have been talking about the suns being the northern suns and playing split and you said they wouldn’t be keen on that, you may and probably are right on that, which is why they don’t get many games happening there and even more to the point of why the nt doesn’t have an afl team which is what I was making. And it’s easy to understand if you use common sense. So I don’t know what you’re getting at with your comments but they’re useless in my eyes cause I have nothing to research, I do know what I’m talking about, and I can confidently say this is true or at least logical based on the information I’ve provided and the obvious fact that there is no nt team. Have a nice day mate
You should think before you type at all.
It will take 30 years to build a Stadium in Tassie. the Greenies will want to have a study on the Type of Grass you put in there and wether or not Seagulls will be impacted ?
don't forget they'll be building on wunjuhmunji land!
Eddie gets so exited about his own ideas. No wonder Collingwood was left in such carnage.
I 100% agree...."Eddie's big proposal"
Who in the hell is asking you to do this Eddie, he's a rash that won't go away
I reckon so
His ego seems to grow every year
This looks like something that was put together in 30mins.. I doubt Tassie will want a 'revamped' NM, or however you want to call it.. They want their own team.. a 19th team.. not too hard to comprehend.. stop making things more difficult for no bloody reason.. Eddie, would you want the Pies to be relocated?
and a team in NT, an even 20 teams!
Exactly. Send Collingwood there if it's such a great deal.
Yep we dont want North
@@binks7988 if tassie gets its own do you follow them?
@@hThemeZ carlton and tassie
It wouldn't work McGuire. Tassie want their own team not some relocated club. Move on...
Yep otherwise we'll turn to soccer and basketball which is already happening. AFL will lose 700k AFL state haha
Ross and Lloydy trying to get a breath in between ed and caro is golden
3 years of draft concessions? I’m sure the other clubs will be tripping over themselves to give that the big thumbs up 🤔
This has been the problem with our game for the last 20 years.. "influencial" people are being far to proactive in advocating change, whether it be, teams, rules, fixtures, jumpers, scoring reviews or whatever.. Just stop already! What made our game so great was its tough, physical nature and the lack of stupid rules. Stop trying to turn everything into a problem and just enjoy the game.
it's cos they're getting sued 20 million for concussions every year. They're trying to pander to all their corporate interests which means create a fake beautiful perfect image that all the players are 100% clean free of drugs and marketable so they can get their next cotton on sponsorships. Money corrupts and underlying the corruption the truth will reveal that AFL is destroying the roots of the game and highly greedy and do not care about the average fan.
As a proud Tasmanian, I would not support this team in any capacity! Nor would any Tasmanians! They will simply support their orgiginal clubs. Tasmania is a proud traditional state and would only follow the Dark Green gurnsey. This is a great deal for North or any other team, but not a great deal for Tasmanians, who want their own team, to call Tasmania, to be soley grown from Tasmania, not some cash grab team that is AFL run! If you put a team in Tasmania, it will grow. The players that will come from the draft will be amazing and will create something that the Crows, Port, Swans and the WA teams have. The supporters are so passionate that they will fill the staduim every week. I think Eddy here is forgetting the tasmanian people and what they stand for. He talk of growing up in North Melbourne..well imagine going to a Tasmanian game as a born and bred Tasmanian! The AFL need to relocate North to Canberra and become the Canberra Kangaroos, simple. But dont rip of the Tasmanian public...this will be a failed team if this happens and a sad day for the AFL!
I agree. Fold up North Melbourne and create a new team in Tassie.
His plan starts off stupid and just gets worse and worse. 'Free access to streaming platforms' 🤣 WTF. Yeah, that will get the deal done.
New Tassie team or not, I don't think the league can support a 19th team, and I don't particularly want to see a 19th team
What a stupid idea from Eddy. Tasmania deserve their own team. They aren't going to be proud of a team that's half Melbourne's. Half baked idea for tazzy but this idea might suit a northern territory team.
more clubs in vic have fought for their team and existence than those merged and died, all of Melbourne, North, Hawthorn, Bulldogs, St. Kilda, Richmond survived. Don't believe your club is ever broke. All these clubs were once bankrupt and lived on for 30+ years and thrived. AFL has much money in the coffers and a dead club is only deceased because their fans have given up hope.
I'm not sure all the interstate teams would be too thrilled about playing all their 'home' games against this team at Marvel or Tassie
Let’s also give them all the draft picks for the next ten years while we’re at it.
Ed was actually spot on in this one. A stand alone team in Tassie won't work.
Maybe. But I'd rather Tasmania sink with their own team than swim with North Melbourne.
You'd be surprised i reckon
I agree standalone won't work - but I don't think Ed's proposal will either.
The problem with this issue is you can't talk about it rationally, because it always gets broken down to "passion" - and there's certainly plenty of that there. But realistically it's a small population spread over a fairly large area and people get sick of travelling large distances. Are they getting full crowds at the current Hawks and North games? I'm sure they argue that "but that's not our own team", but if they're all that passionate about football and demanding more surely 4 or 5 games a year at low capacity grounds should be selling out. A slight side (and I know the populations are very different especially in football preference) I think the AFL has it almost right in Canberra - 3 games at Manuka, against different opponents each year. Enough games to have football aficionados wanting to go to all 3, but not so much that they decide "if I miss this week, there's another in a fortnight...".
In 4 games so far in Tas this year, Blundstone arena has averaged crowds fewer than 7000, UTAS has averaged under 14K - both have a capacity of about 20K. What changes if those games were a local Tas side? Maybe a couple sellouts in the first year or so. Part of it is dwindling interest, but a larger part is that the more accessible something is, the less people worry about missing out.....so you're forever putting off going until "next time".
If both Tas and the AFL are serious, I think they need to negotiate the exact success criteria, and have a contingency in place in case things don't work out (including that if it falls apart, it won't be revisited in the immediate future). Tas (presumably) doesn't want to be left with a barely used stadium, but I'm guessing the AFL doesn't want another hungry club to feed....
Tassie has 34k people already signed to say they will get a membership. Thats more than gws and gold coast together. If we dont get our own team we'll turn to soccer. Basketball has a state side, Big Bash has a state side. A league will have a side in no time.
I don’t think Tasmania wants North’s sloppy seconds
No we do not.
I doubt North wants to be bailed out either. How humiliating for them.
I like that Eddie is at least bringing an idea to the table! Most people just bring whinging and complaining. It was not a fully fledged plan but at the very least the man put up his solution and not a complaint
Isn't about time we just accepted one of the Vic teams has to go out of the competition.
The Tassie Tigers has a ring to it.
Yes. I think Roos should be folded into Tasmania, not merged. They can take the core of them and relocate to become Tasmania Devils - not keeping the Roos name. It gives a fresh start, but with a bit of starting infrastructure, and diehard Roos fans will follow the team to Tassie regardless. I think them still being half North Melbourne is what sets them off.
Stupid idea, this doesn't consider what Tasmanian's want at all.
This solution is the worst possible solution. Tasmanians will hate it. North Melbourne fans will hate it. The Tasmanian government won’t support it. It won’t work. Ed is full of it and only wants to recommend what benefits Collingwood.
Tassie will be a super club on their own.
I agree with most of this. There is no way AFL needs a 19th team. People want to see their own teams get success. It's never going to happen if you have 19 teams. Furthermore, there isn't enough good players for 19 teams.
9:34 Can anyone find any articles on John Elliot wanting Carlton to become the ''New South Wales Blues'', and move some of their home games to NSW? I can't find anything on it? Does anyone remember this?
Eddie's a big thinker who often is shouted down. He's a visionist. At least he expresses solutions. Caro's response was to immediately to shut the idea up. Eddie's close to football stake holders.
I disagree with Eddie's proposal but you're absolutely correct. Eddie is an asset to our game.
So all the players have two houses one in Melbs one in Tassie?
Eddie saying he feels for Nth supporters, I grew up in Fitzroy and no Fitzroy supporter supports the Brisbane Lions.
Most support a team because it represents where they are from, not because of a nickname.
Would you still support your team if it was relocated to another state?
This is exactly my thought process if the AFL were to move my Sainters. I would be straight off to a different team, without hesitation (most likely Carlton). It should be a no brainer. All AFL supporters should support teams from their home state, and if you don't, that's very strange.
@@swordiexd
YES, I’m a Carlton supporter, it’s where I was born and many family members are Carlton. If they were the NSW Blues, would I still support them? No fcking way - I’m a proud Victorian, and my 2nd team would have been Nth funny enough, since I’m from the Northern suburbs
How about North to the VFL and a stand alone Tassie
Spot on North Melbourne need a circuit breaker a spark to bring them back from the Abiss.
Tasmania need a football team playing on there soil because they are the only state that does not have one.
It has to happen It is sound economics as Eddy said the world is not good and who knows how it will be in the future.
Hahah his comparison with the NFL and LA Rams and St. Louis Rams.
The people of St. Louis still hate Stan Kroenke for relocating the franchise to LA. They hate him with a passion.
What a poor comparison Ed.
Eddie again with the Tasmania team, which I'm all for by the way.
Putting up ideas on Footy Classified is one thing, actually being in a position to do something is another.
Either it's the latter or it may as well be Mike Sheahan standing up there preaching.
I can't see why Tasmania can't support their own team if Geelong can. Tasmania have two cities of 200k each. They could have 5 games in each city and would surely get good attendance if Geelong can. (I appreciate it is hard to find the talent for an extra team mind you)
geelong is 70km from melbourne that has 5 mil so crowds would be easier
Er... you might want to check the statistics. Launceston only has 100,000. It's no bigger than Ballarat or Bendigo. I know because I grew up there.
And Launceston is 2hrs away from Hobart (without stopping for coffee breaks), which is probably not much different than some regional Victorians take to travel to regular AFL games. The problem is that the highways in Tasmania aren't safe double lane freeway standard and there will never be a train.
The saving grace is that Hobart makes up the bulk of Tasmania's population growth now and it's booming. Don't get me wrong. I want this to get the green light as much as anyone but we have to be realistic and let Hobart have the overwhelming majority of home games. Launceston should never have been the chosen location for the Hawks to play a handful of junk "home" matches anyway.
@@eddielong8663 you're right. Has the population shrunk?
@@mike8633 Don't think so. If it has shrunk, it's very minor. But it doesn't matter because Launceston hardly gets any bigger either. You think Adelaide never changes? You've seen nothing until you visit Tasmania (Hobart a minor exception to the rule). That's part of its appeal to some but for me personally, I can't stand it.
@@eddielong8663 Yeah Geelong's population has grown a lot over the years (now 250k vs Hobart 203k). Where as Hobart used to be bigger than Geelong. I suppose I can see where the AFL is coming from if the population contracts (how would they have enough supporters)
I’m a Tasmanian Collingwood supporter. I don’t want a Tasmanian team for too many reasons to mention here. I would never barrack for a Tasmanian team - no one would. There is nowhere to put a stadium; people cannot find homes to live in in Hobart. It’s not a priority for our state. No one goes to North Melbourne games in Hobart as it is. I don’t understand why there is such a push for a Tasmanian team - we all have a long established relationship with our existing afl teams!!!
Nah you’re wrong
Because you speak for the whole state, right?
North "home" games are not attended in good numbers because they don't belong to us. Even Hawks support plateaued out a long time ago.
The new local club once up and running, isn't trying to win over Tasmanian rusted-on supporters of other clubs. But you'll find yourself increasingly in the minority as time goes on.
So Eddie in this plan, they never play away in Perth, Adelaide, Sydney or Queensland. That's 8 clubs, half the comp. sounds like a Collingwood draw
We gave Queensland and W.A a Grand Final. I never wanted it away from the "G" but offer Tasmania a chance to host the Grand Final in 2-3 years time. Watch a stadium be built. Give it a roof and have sport all year round in Tasmania. Honestly with the crowds Melbourne are pulling in atm (besides Queen's Bday) offer them the Stadium rename them the Tassie Demons (Devils). A "quality" team like the Demons maybe what brings the crowds from day 1, not wait 3 years till they can recruit enough talent to do it. Wont happen and probably shouldnt but its an option.
Melbourne have no "problems" with the crowds they're pulling, lmao haha
Melbourne is averaging the 5th highest home game attendances this season. Don’t buy into the media narrative that Melbourne’s crowds are down. The entire league is averaging its lowest crowds since 1996.
2019 the last season without Covid, only Melbourne, Carlton and St Kilda are getting better crowds this year. Every other club has gone backwards.
Edward that plan is in total shambles.
Tassie deserves a football team before Goldcoast and GWS. North Melbourne will eventually come good the best thing about premiership's is the slog getting there.
here's my proposal. Relocate Collingwood to tasmania as punishment for Collingwood not doing good enough with treating black people fairly. Make sure they get enough concessions and draft picks so they do better on field, and give them a beautiful do better stadium and call them the do good tassie meat pies.
Eddie is absolutely obnoxious, best thing for Collingwood was him leaving. He is a self absorbed child. That idea is amazing for north, would make sense for them to take it given even when they are up and about they struggle financially and with attendances. Although it’s something that will never happen and be accepted by Tasmania. It’s a big footy state with loads of AFL players that have come through over the years and deserves their own team. North in tassie is not the same. Period.
Caro is right, when the local teams were getting talent Eddie started complaining.
They should have had a Tassie team before the Gold Coast and western sydney.
@@tubester4567 idk about gold coast but gws yes
To be fair to Eddy this would suit northern territory if they want to have a team there, but Tasmania should have better then this. The name would even suit NT Northern Roos
Or just "Northern Roos" I mean North of Melbourne and North of Australia.
Sounds like the AFL has been in Eddies ear, This is a complete 180 from what he was saying a few weeks ago.
updated plan, using the same concept while changing a few key things
1 it would be the Kangaroos. 2 bases will allow Tasmania to fund a VFL and Devil programs with a victorian base. It will bring more economic opportunity with the ability to attract Tasmanian and Victorian sponsors. and the idea that a club will only play in Melbourne and Tasmania, is because this league isn't home and away play league. How about 10 games in Tasmania and 8 games in Melbourne one game in Geelong and then 3 games on the road. this then doesn't give an unfair advantage. and there will still be one home game in Melbourne they can be played at Norths home at Arden Street Oval, with temporary stands much like the f1 grand stands. judging they get 13,000 per game. this means the heritage is still there while the ability for Tasmania to is welcomed.
Two bases won’t work for a simple reason that who’d be up for it?
Players and coaching staff would be living in Melbourne one week and Hobart the following week. Where do you put your family? Where do you enrol your kids in school? We know the harmful effects FIFO can have on families as seen during the mining boom, you can bet that any promising player or coach will take the first rival contract offer they receive just for some stability.
Nope. Still laughable. Won't work.
How did the first relocation work? When South Melbourne went to Sydney?
Well
Different story. South were guaranteed to fold. Sydney is a huge place and not an AFL place. So it was a case of nothing-to-lose-and-all-to-gain.
Have to agree with Eddie that the talent is spread thin already. Not sure if Eddie’s solution is the one. I do think there are too many Melbourne-based teams and this number needs to be reduced. You keep the big 4 clubs and add Geelong and Hawthorn to that. Leaves the Dees, Saints, Roos and Dogs. Could look at merging these 4 into 2 clubs. That will leave 8 Melb clubs.
Instead of bringing a NT team, have the Suns represent Northern Australia.
While the idea might sound good on paper, you are going to lose thousands and thousands of supporters from each club. Families who have supported a club for generations, some will transition to another club, others will just not follow footy anymore.
You might not be stupid. But that idea is.
Obviously you don't support either the Dees, Saints, Roos or Dogs, so you couldn't really care less about warping their respective futures. The Saints and Roos are vulnerable for sure but they each have potential to climb out of trouble given the proper direction. It wasn't that long ago that the Dees and Dogs were in trouble aswell and while not two of the bigger clubs, they each have a solid and stable fanbase now.
The Suns are the team that should be relocated to the Apple Isle. Hardly anyone cares about them, including some of their own players and staff it seems. Just rebadge their location name, mascott, guernsey and song. And overtime, the club will become mostly fully local.
The NT is too small. If TAS has been denied a club for so long mostly because it's "too small", then there's no way the even smaller NT should be granted one simultaneously aswell. Would be better off giving a 3rd team to Perth. Its 2.1million should be large enough to sustain 3 clubs by now.
@@eddielong8663 I personally don't care about Saints and Roos, but I like the Dogs and my family are members of the Dogs, so it would affect me too. I don't want them gone. In saying that, I'm torn whether a team should be abolished from Melbourne, on one side you have a ton of history and culture for each of the clubs, but on the other side, you have some struggling clubs that could do better in another location......There are too many teams in Melbourne, they want to expand the league, but there aren't enough good players to go around. I just don't know what the solution is.
Why not Collingwood to Tassie ed?
Sod offfffff.
Why didn’t Collingwood to Tassie if it’s so attractive?
I wonder if he's got inside info about a stand alone Tazzy team that wont happen
don't really like eddies plan b but caro seems to always top it 😂
Eddie cannot just take a breath and let the other panellists discuss the proposal, he's insufferable like this. The solution is merge the Gold Coast and North Melbourne and make a new Tas team, keeping the league at 18 teams.
So much empathy for north melbourne fans in this thread, so much understanding on their want to keep their team in melbourne. North do not want to play in tassie. they're forced to, the way Eddie should be forced into a restraining chair to lose 20 kgs, put an apple in his mouth and empty his pocket of every cent so his big mouth doesn't influence the might North melbourne kangaroos.
Making all the non Victorian teams go to either Melbourne or tassie to play against North Melbourne without them having to leave their tiny corner of Australia is BS. One of the most stupidest things I've heard come out of his mouth, and the fact that none of the three panellist said anything about it is damning. We know Ross Lyon and Caroline is a Eddie Stooge but i would have thought that Matthew would have mentioned that this gives one team a bigger advantage then every other Victorian based club including Eddies beloved Pies, and gives to big an advantage than the other Non-Victorian clubs.
Hit the nail on the head! The AFL can't afford a new team. Would be economic suicide during the times about to come. I'd say give them more than 11 Tassie games, and relocate them there.
We dont want North. We'll happily become a soccer and basketball state. 700k of us
Wasn’t ed the one complaining about the Sydney academy?
I'm in with McGuire on this one. I encourage all lovers of 'Our Game' to recognise and embrace his vision for North relocating to Tasmania.
Barassi seemed rusted on Melbourne through and through. He saw the value of a new challenge in a move to Carlton. He coaches them to a Premiership in 1970. Fate, combined with his football brilliance, and a team made up of talented Frankenstein parts became a highly competitive and respected team, due largely to the few at North Melbourne who saw their worth; Aylett, Joseph, Mantello and Billy Stephen who Barassi brought over from Fitzroy. The Kangas then catapult themselves into football folklore, thus becoming a football powerhouse team of the 70's. Alongside Hawthorn. Until 1976, they had won two.
Since then, the Hawks have won another ten flags, and it's not just for their Thursday night sausage sizzles. Good governance, and a ruthless Modus operandi from the club's re-development and leadership from the board, coaching personnel all the way through to their club culture and of course, maintaining an unrelenting conga line of champion players and talent in vast reserves.
North have won just four. Only four in our proud history. What have we done differently to Hawthorn? We have blooded and fielded greats that other teams in our halcyon years have envied and surely only wished for their own. Strategies under Pagan's tutelage in the 90's on and off the field forced all other clubs to devise new methods and tactics to keep up with us.
That yielded us two premierships. We almost got there with Scott and Brayshaw in 2014.
What on earth is happening now?
Isn't it finally time to get that winning sensation back for North? As 'shinboners' why not embolden ourselves with a big new enterprise?
Or, do we as North merely maintain the staus quo with a rudderless and frail club culture on and off the field as it is now; steered, (not navigated), by our current 'woke' board who are more into 'grouphugs' and cosy fireside chats where the coach is compelled as directed from above, to apologise for a post game 'spray' for fear that this current crop of bedwetters and cry-babies, and their Mums' might be offended?
C'mon, how many players have we jettisoned in the name of a 're-build strategy' who have gained career longevity and gone on to become premiership players and greats at other clubs as a consequence of North's shortsightedness before the best of their talent and qualities were fully recognised?
If we are to stay on in Melbourne with no plans other than to continue on as we are, what becomes of those Royal Blue and White stripes? What happens next? This great club of ours as a statement of fact becomes just another mere talking point for the likes of Caroline Wilson and her co-horts in the media who remain unwilling to at least investigate McGuire's alternatives.
Let's re-invent ourselves, and as we know from Kanga generations past, patience gains all things.
Shinboners used to run through the banners held up high by our cheer squads didn't they? Run and BURST through it together with vigour and as a team, rather than meekly ducking under it so as to avoid touching it as other clubs do thesedays. Take a knee and bow our heads in shame? That is not us. Blue and white banners, floggers, scarves and flags with belief behind them are us.
McGuire may be an aquired taste, but he ain't stupid. This bloke has always had the very best intentions to see this game flourish. Could he perhaps become the new president of North?
I encourage North supporters everywhere to recognise and embrace his vision for an opportunity in Tasmania. Listen carefully to his presentation just now.
Get Clarkson and see what happens next.
"The greatest risk is to not take any risk at all!"
No. No. No. I understand the passion and you obviously love the Apple Isle, but I'm sorry to say this.
Tasmania has been disrespected for long enough now. As a former Tasmanian myself who may or may not return one day, I'd rather the AFL gave TAS the complete 🖕 instead of granting us someone else's mess that needs to be cleaned up. It's a great test of character for the AFL and we will finally know where they stand once and for all when it comes to the state. They really think that little of us? Fine. We walk away and the AFL losers Tasmanian corporate support forever. And we finally know when it comes to the AFL's stance on North aswell, and the Suns for that matter.
No hate on North. I honestly want them to succeed just like all clubs. But they had their chance to relocate to the Gold Coast and they didn't. Was it a better or worse decision to refuse the offer? Who knows. But bottom line is they're still struggling and now the AFL has an even bigger basket case in the Suns.
I know it sounds horrible. But the Roos will be more respected if they kept fighting until the bitter end if/when the AFL pulls the plug on them. North have history, and it's far more honourable to bow out with grace than to be saved. And I would honestly say the same thing if it was my club (WB) in the same position. It should be the Suns who get gutted first anyway. Let the AFL be the ones who make that decision on which one of the two needs to be let go, or instead to keep them both and keep Tassie excluded. The AFL is ultimately the biggest loser no matter what.
Yet West Coast / Freo / Adel / Port etc have to travel for hours every 2nd week.
Tassie have to travel further than Melbourne regardless of the concessions.
It seems like a good idea to me, but I'm not Tasmanian.
Question for Tasmanians reading: What if they did Eddie's plan, & called it the ''North Melbourne - Tasmania Kangaroos'', kind of like in NRL, you have the ''St George - Illawarra Dragons'', ''Cronulla - Sutherland Sharks'' etc. Would you support it? Cheers
Can't get through a week with some muppet trying to get north south
Just expand to 20 already. Tasmania need a stand alone team. After that i'd either have a canberra or a 3rd WA team as the 20th franchise. Moving the roos makes no sense
NT before canberra. Canberra will be no better than gws or gold coast.
@@themaninawhitecoatandhat7503 A third WA would be my preferred of the three, especially with how rapidly Mandurrah and the south west is growing. Canberra just makes sense population wise and would be a one city team.
I cant see NT happening until the eventual expansion to 22
I would go for a 3rd WA team, based in the North side of Perth, called the Northern Crocs, which has direct ties with NT. WA has a high indigenous culture in the north and a lot of mining for sponsorships etc. Could play out of Optus Stadium with sometimes games in Darwin, removing those other clubs from trips up there. Let the north of the country have a team made for them, that they can support - but generally playing and residing in a proper big set up footy town (Perth).
@@debuthunter5389 I can see that working a lot better than a solely NT team
Eddie’s got that Collingwood cap on lol 22 home games. Because 16 isn’t enough haha
Tasmania has the worst economic, health and education outcomes in Australia and Eddy expects it to continue underwriting Melbourne’s over saturated market. And to fit the bill for a $750 million stadium to serve as a ‘second home base’. The plan is offensive and life long fans of the game will turn the footy off in Tassie just to spite the AFL. Great time for the A-league to start growing their game ⚽️
Dear Ed. If this was Collingwood going through what North Melbourne is going through how your fans except this. Good idea, but if Tassie wants a football team then they need to keep trying with the AFL.
Collingwood fans turn up to the games whether they win or lose..
Caro's spot on if a tassie was a powerhouse with of these concessions every afl president would take those away...especially Collingwood.
North are where Melbourne was 8 years ago and it might take another 5 years to get it right...so be it.
talks about lettuce and gas prices because you are so relatable to the average australian aren't you eddie?😂😂
Eddie is worth a fortune. He's been buying high end property in Melbourne for years. His media salaries are pocket money in comparison. Good on him. But you're right -- not relatable.
look at him sitting there all noble and resplendent and decrepit.
North, Western Bulldogs and St. Kilda merger is the way forward for the over saturation of clubs in Victoria and for all 3 of those clubs.
St. Kilda Bulldogs wearing blue and white (or whatever mix you want). 3 struggling clubs united into a superclub with a supporter base that would rival the Big 4, swimming in money, and with enough resources to thrive.
The combined roster would also guarantee immediate short term success to embolden the new team and its supporter base to embrace the transition. Everything worked out pretty well for the Brisbane Lions (3 premierships within 7 years), only this time the team gets to stay in Victoria.
I agree with Eddie, it’s either north or st Kilda, st Kilda in in that much debt, there saying if Tassie was stand alone it would take 15/20 million a year to top them up, Tassie needs and deserves a team make it happen…
We deserve our own alright. But no leftovers, thanks. New club or nothing.
I hate the Mc Eddie with cheese but he's got some strong talking points, my only problem with his plan is all the other states miss out on going to watch the roo's. What about the fan's in other states that can't make it to Melbourne or Tasmanian to watch their team play
IF..they were to have a team in tassie, surely they would mascot their team as the "devils"..
So in terms of namesake, that would make the blockbuster game the demons vs devil's..
We only want the devils.
Why the hell do you move North which at least has its stuff together off the field and actually is a functioning club when you could move GWS, which is a black hole for cash and will never have the support at Tasmania team will. I know the Tasmanian's don't want a relocated team but GWS would be much better (and frankly fold the Suns).
As long as its called the Tassie Devils.
Good idea but
You risk disenfranchising
North and Tasmania supporters
You will have apple none want.
We don’t have the mentality of USA
We love our teams
They are our own
Part of the fabric
Why don't people see. If Tassie wants a team then they will struggle for the first 10 years at least. Look at GC. but then the draft picks they get will prevent teams like North Melbourne and Adelaide from properly rebuilding through the draft. This means instead of having one team struggling you have 3.
I'm a firm believer that Carlton and Brisbane's rebuilds were made twice as long as they should have been because of the concessions given to Gold Coast
I always think about if we had Hobart hoops or smth
send collingwood to Tassie. Perfect. Tasmanians love football and so do Collingwood. Collingwood deserve a holiday, how about one year holiday in Tassie, come home in the summer to visit family. Eddie could be the president. Call the club The tasmanian meat pies. Give them $200 player payments. Job done.
As a neutral, I loathe everything about this.
Caro and the rest of them just want to sit there, complain and point fingers. At least Eddie is putting forward ideas/visions to help the issue
I'd relocate Norf to King island. Make just as much sense as big Ed's hair brained scheme.
I'm a North fan and this makes sense to me. The idea of North becoming a superclub with Tasmania just fits. Finally supporting a team that has access to an AFL academy and broadening our market size will ensure we aren't the financial laughing stock of the league.
You're not a North fan then - you're a plastic fan
they cant have 11 home games in vic and 11 in tas tho, unfair for interstate clubs to only play North away from home
You are the opposite of the financial laughing stock of the league - only current club that isn't in debt.
@@swordiexd Trust me as a north fan I follow this, people from our club talk about it all the time. We don't have the same spend luxuries that other big clubs do that draw players in. Being out of debt doesn't make you successful financially.
@@swordiexd are you sure North are the only club debt free? Pretty sure Richmond, Collingwood, Essendon, and West Coast haven’t had debt in a long time
Does Eddie ever NOT try to make things about him or Collingwood?
Not exactly a fan of Caro but Ross calling her naive about helping tourism and unemployment was rude, and probably incorrect. I think it works help tourism and would provide some jobs.
Eddie is the best!
Roos rebuild for the first time in ever and they are all trying to move them again. They have no debt. They don’t have to go anywhere.
I’m a kangas supporter in WA. I’d like to see them play in Perth
We do NOT need another football stadium, nor the cost of maintaining a team, we DO have a need for health and housing funding.
so because North are an irrelevant rabble that needs to be constantly propped up by the other clubs, they should be rewarded with more home games, draft concessions and more funding? Yeah Ed, let's reward the mediocre for being mediocre...
Who is your team turd
@@georgekhoury9080 a team that actually has supporters, is relevant, has played finals regularly and can stand on its own two feet unlike North who are an absolute joke and rabble.
Name the team turd
@@georgekhoury9080 😂 make me little boy. You're an angry little fella who supports a little club and can't accept the truth. You must have a lot of other 'small sized' insecurities eh!
@@TheAlphaDingo So not a team in the AFL then I'm guessing, as EVERY team in the league gets funding and is propped up by the other clubs.
Nah a stand alone Tassie team please. Plus lets have another one in West Australia
Free streaming rights to interstate members is a very good idea?
Clearly hasn’t seen any Utopia episodes. They don’t want a new Stadium - they want the Errol Flynn Acting Academy.
What if the plan was time limited? Give the plan a solid 15-20 years to see if it works and the fans are happy, then that's great. However, if it doesn't work then there should be an option in the contract to revert it back to pure North Melbourne as it once was.
I don't think this global recession is going to last forever.
The idea as a whole is the right direction forward, and I might say my envision of the future was to do this, but move the gold coast team down. Gold Coast doesn’t have the population or potential supporter base to run a team there…
Teams have moved around and changed names so that’s not new.
The games in Melbourne and Tasmania needs to change as the obviously need to move around the country, might work for the first 2 years but it would need to change.
No point moving Gold Coast, there are 9 teams in Melbourne + Geelong, why not just get rid of one of the smaller struggling ones? Then dissolve the name/brand..... and make a completely fresh new team in Tassie, don't relocate.
Eddie everywhere.
Create a new development competition with 14 new teams.
3 from TAS
2 from NSW, QLD, SA and WA
1 from NT, ACT and VIC.
Let the competition get established for 5 years before introducing relegation/promotion with the AFL.
On the first year relegate 3 teams and promote 1 so the comps even at 16 teams each.
Get rid of the pre-season competition and extend the footy season to 30 games giving 1 home and 1 away match v everyone else.
Everyone gets their own team and they get to the AFL on merit not location.
Add a fresh new Tasmanian team. With a full home and away season! 38 games 40 rounds 2 byes. Gives a chance for the likes of Fremantle that gets given a hard run home every season while Geelong get the cruise control fixtures
I honestly think Kangaroos should just move to Hobart and the Tasmanians will probably start supporting them within a few years.
Has to be the devils. F the kangas
No we actually wouldn't. You seriously think we're that desperate, do you?
New team or nothing. Sloppy seconds are out of the question.