I actually adore the idea of Steven being able to talk to his mother through this sort of deep meditation. I'm still not convinced that Rose as we know is totally gone. As she said, all of her became half of Steven. I think that means that all that code, dna, whatever you want to call it, is still ALL there, it's just been reorganized to intermingle with Steven's human half. If you think of it like the gem itself, it's not obliterated, but it's shattered and scattered. All the pieces still exist, and maybe that solid piece of her mind is still intact in his subconcious. And while I would be against the writers "cheating death" by finding a way to bring Rose back, I think for Steven to be able to access Rose in his subconcious and maybe even allow her to speak through a projected image (Maybe in her room or through a projected hologram like Pearl made of her in Rose's Scabbard,) I think it would be a nice compromise between straight up bringing her back and giving Steven SOME kind of relationship with his mom, if only a mental one. This might even allow her to speak to the gems once in a while. I presume this would have to be hard for Steven to do, to prevent the gems from simply asking Rose whenever something's going wrong, but Pearl clearly needs some closure that Rose never gave her, and it would be sweet to see Greg and Rose talk again, made a bit bittersweet by the fact that they'd be unable to touch each other.
I agree with you because I also love the fact that they can connect and the creators build up so much with rose and pink diamond that there is no way they would just cut her out.
I am post big reveal, the Diamonds would be happy about it too, as since Rose was actually Pink Diamond, them being able to talk to her would also give them closure.
This is a pretty excellent theory. I will point out that Steven's power works fine on living beings (Connie, Greg, Lapis). Specifically those who he cares about. It is shown NOT to work on the Geode or the Warp pad. It might have to do with personal investment, or animate vs. inanimate rather than a subconscious mental block. Overall a really good theory though. Makes a lot of sense. There's also Catch & Release where Steven's worried about what Peridot was trying to say before she poofed and his gem lights up and unlocks Rose's Room all on its own without his direct input.
This is very interesting theory. makes sense a part of Rose still lingering in Steven helping him along the way. After all she is a part of him and she does say and I quote...best I can..."when your loving your self. That's me loving you. loving being you." Just a hint on that Rose is a part of him. Maybe she isn't alive so to speak but a piece of her still lives inside of Steven himself. So to think she may be his subcouinous or maybe come back almost like a spirit is really neat thing to think about.
I started watching this being skeptical but by the end I was mostly convinced. This... actually makes a lot of sense. it's cool to think that this MIGHT hit on something that could be canon. that'd be so cool.
+AJ Universe In regards to the dogcopter telling Steven to hold his breath, it kinda reminds me of the movie "John Dies At The End" when the Jamaican tells David about his own dream he had where a stick of dynamite explodes at the same time thunder crashes in the real world. The Jamaican's words are kinda scary; "In your dream, the explosion became the thunder. But the dream started 30 seconds before the thunder hit. How did your mind know that the thunder was coming?"
I do like the idea that some tiny fragment of rose still exists, like bits of her memory or her emotions, that would be in line with her message to Steven "when you feel love from yourself that's me loving being you". I'm a little less keen on rose still being a functional entity dormant inside Steven, it just doesn't seem to go with the huge amount of loss the series has shown for rose, just having Steven having an avatar relationship with her as a mentor seems like it would break up alot of the emotional build we've had.
It so moving to have a episode of Steven trying to get in contact with Rose and end up going through her memories but still for some reason Rose can't see or even feel Steven's presence. Steven while is enjoying learning more about Rose, feels sad that he won't be able to talk directly to her. It is only when he came upon a certain memory that he starts feeling her emotions and thoughts through empathy in which Rose is finally able to see Steven but only just for a split second.
Very very interesting! Who knows! I see this as likely or even entirely canon. In a way it's very akin to a fusion, which Steven has been compared to several times in the guidebook, and we know by the scene where Lapis renounces her identity and whenever a fusion talks to itself, that the fusers do exist within the Fusion's subconscious.
I've definitely thought about the whale as a manifestation of Rose's conciousness, but I hadn't thought much about dog copter's appearances in Steven's dreams! you make a lot of good points! Random observation: Dog Copter meows at Steven in Chille Tid. Ronaldo has a blog post talking about Dog Copter 4, where he says: "Dogcopter dies defending the planet but then he comes back to life because he’s actually part cat and cats have 9 lives." I know it's a pretty obvious connection to make what with Steven being part Gem. I wonder if it will ever be revealed that Dog Copter is Cookie Cat's son.
This probably explains why The floating pink whale was oblivious as to what Steven wanted, And tried to take care of him and tried to bond with him or something so Steven thought he left the room,Rose wanted to get to know more about Steven BUT then Rose knew that it was cruel to let Steven stay,so she let him go Idk I was guessing, This is my theory
this theory is wonderful...it's hits points perfectly to me. the show has already introduced Stevens ability to talk to lost gems in dreams, lik he did lapis in chille tid. dog copter and the little pink whale could definitely be rose in Stevens dreams. I also believe that if steven taps into this ability more..he can actually c rose in her real form. great job
There should be a theory video revolving around episode "Mindful Education". It reveals so much about how fusion comes undone, like in "Keystone Motel", and about mental realms between fusions, like in the last nightmare in "Chille Tid".
Wow! This is so great, just like your other theories. You never cease to impress me. On an unrelated note, have you ever considered going or gone to comic con? It's in Tampa this year and I would absolutely love to meet you. Just a silly thought.
I imagine it would be like Superman comunicating with his father's hologram. His father isn't really there, but Superman can still have discussions with his father and use his knowledge.
This is probably one of my most favorite theories/discussions you've made. I also have an idea for this: It's possible that upon Steven's birth, Rose's body began to disappear, like being poofed. Instead of Rose dying, once Steven was born, she was trapped in her gemstone, like as if she were poofed. She can't regenerate, that would possibly hurt or kill Steven. So because she is still in her gem, that is how she is able to tap into Steven's subconscious
you could also mention that when amethyst and greg were caught fighting, Steven was really upset and the tv went static. I have been thinking this during the WHOLE show! I so totally agree with you, and also because steven is so young, you could say that there's a disconnect between his subconscious and his conscience just because he doesn't understand it yet. He is a child, and he is still learning what he wants to become, as seen with the "subtext" used when he clenches his fist on his shirt saying "humans" and also how he felt a disconnect with connie because he was a half gem in the birthday episode. As I said before, steven is still young, and he's trying to find out just who he is, whether that be a crystal gem, a human, or in the middle. He still has much to learn about others and himself, not even as just a half gem learning his powers, but as a youth trying to figure out who he wants to be.
to go along with the "rose still manifesting herself" thing, as you said the tiny floating whale and dog copter are a manifestation of her mind, lion is a manifestation of her body. what makes me think this is, first of all he's pink. all of the other gems manifest a body naturally around their gem, steven can't do that as he already has a solid body around his gem, so as a.... failsafe?... flood gate, he automatically created lion as a release of that extra energy that wasn't being used. why wouldn't it manifest as rose again? not sure, but steven has some kind of fascination with cats, tiger millionaire, cat fingers. so his body created a construct that reflected that. lion also actually listens to steven when he's serious. there's also the fact that he stores all of roses things inside of him, it's been shown that gems contain a pocket demention, within themselves where they can store stuff, just look at the many times pearl has done it.
+immortal_gaming those were outside influences created by a company to sell product, so i can't count them. and judging by the most recent episode aj might be right
I wouldn't be surprised to learn later that Rose's mind resides in some part of Steven's, especially given that (though she doesn't seem to think this is the case) Pearl asks in "Rose's Scabbard" if Steven has any of her memories and that the creators have a passion for foreshadowing.
I really like this theory. I imagine it being used as a kind of deus-ex-machina, like if there was some really bad situation and they were stuck, somehow Rose would take control of Steven and help them win the fight. And Steven can shapeshift too so it would be like Rose really being back again, for a little bit at least.... It could work.
+ameXkage That wouldn't be a Deus Ex Machina. Deus Ex Machina never evolves naturally from the narrative. It is always an entirely external force, outside of the characters' control.
I really don't like the idea of Rose returning in any form. It's very "fanfic-ish." But I do like the idea that Steven's subconscious has a lot of the knowledge Rose had while she was still alive due to them partly being the same person in a way.
Talking to his mother through the use of the room is incredibly ingenious. If that is true, I can see him returning to the room on a daily basis to be with his mother, maybe even living there. It will also be the basis to answer a lot of questions that only she'd know. But like you said, it wouldn't be anytime during this season, a little bit more time to mature, a little bit more experience.
I have to agree about the possibility, I just have one note, Steven's subconscious didn't force the events with cloud Connie, He says that he doesn't want her to do what he wants, that in turn causes her to glitch for a moment before becoming a somewhat independent creation of the room. Because she was a part of the room, she was able to see that Steven wants to tell her the truth, possibly subconsciously, I won't deny that, but because of this, Cloud Connie forces Steven to tell Connie the truth. It's not that big of a thing, but I just felt that clarification was important.
Also, did you notice that in "Cat Fingers" when Amethyst was trying to teach Steven how to shape shift, his first question was if he could shape shift into a big lion. I think this also supports your theory, as Steven himself wanted to turn into a lion, which would explain why his gem projection turned into one.
+Noah Nunez if you watch the beginning of The Answer when Saphire is walking with her Ruby Guards, you can briefly see Lapis in front of them implying that she was once an important diplomatic homeworld jem. My theory is that Rose trapped her in the mirror and this way she could see Lapis's knowledge of the higher class and how they operate and use it help fight against them in the rebellion. It probably isn't correct but that's what i think.
Fascinating theory. I have been thinking the series could end with Steven having a near death experience and him talking to Rose inside his mind and Rose regenerating separating from Steven, taking away his Gem powers. Steven would still be alive thanks to his physical body being half-human.
I would like to mention the part of the episode where amythest cracks her gem. At the end when they turn the fountain back on and we see roses silhouette. Maybe that was the sub conscious rose trying to reach out to Steven? Thought that might be interesting to mention and here everyone else's ideas of
I always thought this was the case. because of the Lion 3 episode where Rose recorded the message for Steven saying the every moment Steven loves being himself will be her loving him and loving being him.
Can you imagine that happening, and Steven becoming obsessed with that room, and the fake mother? And the gems having to break the door down or something for Steven´s sake? Can totally see that happening.
you are briliant, i have thought that they could like pull her mind into a gem without a mind, but what you say sounds ALOT more possible. that they maybe able to talk in the room, or in some special way. I subscribed just because of this one video by the way, because i like the idea so much, that you (and whomever else) had.
This theory is reminiscent of, avatar the last Airbender, Naruto, and bleach, to an extent. In all of those shows the main character connects to other people who have become a part of said main character through meditation and mastering of one's self. Rebecca had admitted that he work is highly influenced by anime, and it is possible, by avatar as well. If these things are true as we know them to be it is highly likely that Steven will eventually come to control his powers completely only after he had died deep enough into himself that he confronts his mother directly. I also have another theory about a correlation between avatar and Steven but that is a gem in another kino Der toten.
Maybe if Rose being in Steven's subconscious is what the writers intended (which I strongly agree with) then once Steven is able to meditate and actually talk to Rose inside his mind in his room, that's when he'll start to figure out how to use his powers willingly. I think Steven's gem powers still belong to Rose, and Steven unlocks them when he feels maternal and protective feelings like Rose does, so in a way when he's connecting to her spirit. So once he's able to finally talk to her through meditation, he'll be able to start learning how to work together with her to be consciously in control of their powers together. And maybe they'd be able to start functioning similar to a fusion, not the same of course, but similar. C:
I got some theories are the diamonds like the three beaches of government blue being deplmatatic yellow melatariy, pink being public and white the leading and I thought of what if nobody is truly evil
Another detail, remember what Rose told Steven in her video? "Steven, we can't both exist. I'm going to become half of you. And I need you to know that every moment you love being yourself, that's me, loving you and loving being you. Because you're going to be something extraordinary. You're going to be a human being." Also remember what we learned in "We Need to Talk" that Rose main flaw is that she is really literal. So that little speech was probably literal too. She IS part of him and she loves him, further proving your Rose = Steven's Subconscious theory. Now, what i'm not sure is exactly how complex this Rose Subconscious is. She could be a completely functional being, with her memories intact and the capacity of interacting with others if given a mean (like Rose´s room), she could be only the personality, capable of interacting but only able to vaguely recall the knowledge that Rose had (like Luna from Sailor Moon maybe?). Or it is just a ghost, an imprint of Rose personality that can give prerecorded messages so to speak but is unable to really interact with anyone else.
in the episode when steven is in his room and he says that he wants to talk to peridot after she was poofed,he got to see her say her last words.Maybe if rose was part of the room he would have access to what she said right before she had steven.then we might know a LITTLE more about rose and steven.BTW,this video was mindblowing.now i cant think straight.
interesting, i knew from when u said dog copter was trying to tell him about holding his breath that rose was his subconcious. However i think that rose can actually be revived. If his gemstone is removed, it would make sense that rose would come back, this however will remove steven's powers and change him on a psychological level as a chunk of his subconcious is now gone and retrieved into rose quartz's memories and feelings. This would mean he would forget a few things such as loving himself, dog copter, the familiar books and other things such as how to use his powers and the whale. This would be fun to tackle and also i think they will do this at the season finale of season 4 or season 5 if any.
I feel like dogcopter is rose. she could have taken that form after steven saw the preview.She likes animals, and she probally wants to help steven, so it makes sence to me.
That's a cool theory. Especially when you remember the dream sequence Steven had with dogcopter about art in that one episode (I forget which). It's pretty cool to think that that was actually Rose speaking to Steven using dogcopter as a medium. Heh. She knows a lot about art XD.
By definition, though, a person's subconscious is a part of their mind they aren't aware of (despite the fact that it often influences one's conscious thoughts and behavior). If Rose is indeed part of Steven's subconscious, and Steven becomes aware of that, she wouldn't be his subconscious anymore. She'd be part of his conscious mind. It is an interesting theory, though.
I really hope the writers of this show, look at this video and make it a reality. 1. Because it is very clever with pretty much no plot holes and would be a perfect explanation. 2. I really want to see Steven interact with his mother. Just not right now. We're still kinda developing Peridot's character arc after Steven Bomb 4/Birthday Bomb.
That's an interesting theory AJ. In the "An Indirect Kiss" episode when Steven was under water when Rose's fountain turned back on he saw what appeared to be Rose reaching out for him. So would that also be applied to this theory of Rose being a part of his subconscious?
Hrm. Another dark variant of this would be that Rose is growing herself a hybrid body and will, at some point later on, reassert herself and push 'Steven' into being a submerged personalty.
+neeneko "I need you to know that every moment you love being yourself--that's me, loving you" Yes I am very sure that Rose is trying to take possession of Steven. I'm sorry, but this just seems like conjecture to make the show "edgier".
If they do this it'll be so bittersweet. I love your theory. I have several theories of my own but as usual I can't think of them when I need to -_-" darn.
Rose still exists because Steven is a fusion of her and Greg, but since Greg isn't a gem the change happened entirely to Rose. She remains in Steven's subconscious just like Ruby and Sapphire exist in Garnet's subconscious, constantly aware but only subtly present as Steven's communion with his Gem and it's powers.
may I put a theory. I think that rose wanted to watch Steven grow up so became half of Steven's subconscious But she couldn't fully go in so she went and became part of her room and she trys to contact with Steven though the tiny floating whale and was able to make contact so she was able to go in stevens dreams so she show up as dogcopter something steven knows. So then Rose can be with steven in some way. BUT she can't fully because she is half of steven so her only way of contact with steven is though the room and though his dreams
In my own opinion, I don't think Steve will ever be able to remember Rose's memories. On the premise that the Gems are like quantum computers, it would be like installing a new operating system, yes, the files might still be on the hard drive, but because of the difference in how the different OS's store, read, and analyze data, you wouldn't be able to access those files unless you had some kind of Data converter, that could take the data written in the language of the old OS and convert it into something the new OS could read. "But Rose is half of Steven, his mind should be similar to hers!" Wrong, Steven is a human that has a gem, not a Gem that is like a human. It's been shown on many occasions, when the CG's don't understand human traditions or idiosyncrasies, that how Gems minds work, and how Humans minds work are completely separate, and that Steven, in that area is 100% human. So transferring data from the mind of a gem to the mind of a human would be like trying to run a Skyrim on one of those fridges with a tablet in the door. Sure, it can be done, but not directly, and it would definitely take some doing. Of course, somethings are similar, so a little bit might get through, but they'd be the less complex thoughts, like "Go here," "Follow Me" or "Believe in Yourself" So I think that the second possibility is the most likely.
I support this theory alot and makes sense. I think another tie in to it is the episode where amethyst cracks her gem and they are in the fond and Steven see the rose putting out a hand but it was just the statue above them. It would be his subconscious aka rose trying to let him know that he needs to come up now
This theory definitely makes sense to me. I am, however, nervous to see how Rose reacts to Steven when he does finally reach that point. During Rose's time on Earth, before meeting Greg, she was so set on protecting it and keeping it from the Home World Gems. At this point, Steven has been successful at befriending two of the three HW Gems introduced thus far. I can see the friendships Steven makes shaping his outlook on HW Gems as a whole, especially since he has nothing else to base them off of other than what Pearl and Garnet tell him. I'm wondering if his changing outlook will bring him more towards the idea of overthrowing the Diamonds and freeing all the other HW Gems instead of keeping all non-Crystal Gems away from Earth forever. If this is the case, how will Rose react to that idea? Steven will basically be doing away with her original plan and essentially be inviting more HW Gems to Earth. I could be completely off the mark here, but I thought this was really interesting!
To answer that, I think the Guidebook to the Crystal Gems explains that Rose has faith that Steven will establish a connection between gemkind and humanity in his own way. So, in that case, Rose would probably be the proudest mother in the universe if/when he pulls that off somehow.
Wow, amazing and interesting theory. Never thought of this like that. It perfectly explaines what´s with Rose now. I am out of words. I think, if Steven was about to meet Rose, it wouldn´t be the Crystal Gems Rose, but Homeworld Rose Quartz. PS: I am watching Steven Universe from Animeflavor too XD
I would really hope that Steven could unlock and control his powers on his own, independent of his subconscious or perhaps Rose. In Jungian psychology The subconscious is what one is not directly aware of in their psyche but by a trigger can be something conscious. This trigger can be subliminal(not perceived knowingly) or something related or unrelated that reminds the conscience of something no longer thought of. Steven is learning such as when he summoned the shield against Lapis or when the Crystal Gems attempted to corner Peridot.
I think that Rose could show herself in Steven's Room/Dreams , but she chooses not to as it might make him too emotional , like in the episode where Amethyst morphs into Rose to mentally torture Greg.Steven sees this , and is overtaken by emotion.
Ok so I wanted to ask you about this. You know the theory that our pearl used to belong to white diamond. I just noticed that in the answer when rose and pearl attacked blue diamonds court, pearls hair is completely white and her outfit is different. Then at the end of the answer when they stumble upon Cotten candy garnet pearls hair is orange (like it is now) and her outfit is different from the beginning of the episode. I don't know if anyone else noticed this but I haven't seen any theories about this. It also helps show the amount of time Rudy and Sapphire were on earth.
+Sophie Ginger Her outfit isn't structurally different. It is just washed of all of its color to match with Pearl's overall white color. Every Gem in the first half of that episode, except for Blue Diamond and Blue Pearl, who are their true colors, are like that, only having one predominant color. They go back to having their regular color schemes once they are on the surface of the Earth. It is to show the difference in attitude going from the rigid, structured court of a Diamond to the freedom found on Earth.
+AJ Universe Check out some of the Superman comics and movies. Sometimes Superman's father copies his brain and personality into the computer of the ship which speaks to Superman through a hologram
I don't know if you know this AJ, but there is a popular anime named Naruto where the main character's father and mother dies. Now the father and mother seals part of their own soul within the main character and that main character, in a point of his life where he needs their help, does meet the soul of his father and then his mother. It could be like that, but instead of a one time thing, maybe it's something he can activate. Either way, i agree with you that Rose is not coming back as she once was.
I actually adore the idea of Steven being able to talk to his mother through this sort of deep meditation. I'm still not convinced that Rose as we know is totally gone. As she said, all of her became half of Steven. I think that means that all that code, dna, whatever you want to call it, is still ALL there, it's just been reorganized to intermingle with Steven's human half. If you think of it like the gem itself, it's not obliterated, but it's shattered and scattered. All the pieces still exist, and maybe that solid piece of her mind is still intact in his subconcious. And while I would be against the writers "cheating death" by finding a way to bring Rose back, I think for Steven to be able to access Rose in his subconcious and maybe even allow her to speak through a projected image (Maybe in her room or through a projected hologram like Pearl made of her in Rose's Scabbard,) I think it would be a nice compromise between straight up bringing her back and giving Steven SOME kind of relationship with his mom, if only a mental one. This might even allow her to speak to the gems once in a while. I presume this would have to be hard for Steven to do, to prevent the gems from simply asking Rose whenever something's going wrong, but Pearl clearly needs some closure that Rose never gave her, and it would be sweet to see Greg and Rose talk again, made a bit bittersweet by the fact that they'd be unable to touch each other.
maybe Steven can make a hologram of rose and rose can speak though it?
I agree with you because I also love the fact that they can connect and the creators build up so much with rose and pink diamond that there is no way they would just cut her out.
Steven might meet another Rose and struggle to fight her.
I am post big reveal, the Diamonds would be happy about it too, as since Rose was actually Pink Diamond, them being able to talk to her would also give them closure.
Never noticed the the bubble popping when he got to know Connie better. Great theory.
Garnet says it in the episode, it's "CHILL - A - TEED"
this reminds me of how avatars in Avatar the Last Airbender meditate and "talk" to their past lives.
Me too
+Chef Joy Joy Gadles espesaly when he talked about rose
Mistylyn Frugone lmao same😂
This is a pretty excellent theory. I will point out that Steven's power works fine on living beings (Connie, Greg, Lapis). Specifically those who he cares about. It is shown NOT to work on the Geode or the Warp pad. It might have to do with personal investment, or animate vs. inanimate rather than a subconscious mental block.
Overall a really good theory though. Makes a lot of sense. There's also Catch & Release where Steven's worried about what Peridot was trying to say before she poofed and his gem lights up and unlocks Rose's Room all on its own without his direct input.
so rose would be avatar roku?
+Owen Chiang OHHHH all the other subconscious animals are different past lives just like in Avatar!!!
(or not)
I had the same thought lol
Niceee
when watching i was just thinking,so is it like aang and roku?lol
I really like this theory. It makes so much sense!
Aranea likes steven universe now I guess
Rose is Dogcopter. Confirmed.
It all makes sense now
As always, you don't cease to surprise me. Amazing job.
best theorist on UA-cam. perfectly predicted storm in the room
Ooo this reminds me of Of how korra and ang connect to the spirt world
I. Absolutely. Adore. The. Possibilities. Of. This. Theory.
Your theories are the highlight of my week during this brutal hiatus. Thank you so much for these amazing videos!
This is very interesting theory. makes sense a part of Rose still lingering in Steven helping him along the way. After all she is a part of him and she does say and I quote...best I can..."when your loving your self. That's me loving you. loving being you."
Just a hint on that Rose is a part of him. Maybe she isn't alive so to speak but a piece of her still lives inside of Steven himself. So to think she may be his subcouinous or maybe come back almost like a spirit is really neat thing to think about.
I started watching this being skeptical but by the end I was mostly convinced. This... actually makes a lot of sense. it's cool to think that this MIGHT hit on something that could be canon. that'd be so cool.
I hope this becomes true
Rose has no physical form so maybe rose is trying to guide Steven through his subconscious
That's what I was thinking
So basically Steven could talk to rose like naruto talked to minato?
+Xavier James yep
+Xavier James Good comparison. Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm saying.
+AJ Universe I think this is one the strongest theory on Steven Universe. It make sense.
mestre12 Thanks.
+AJ Universe In regards to the dogcopter telling Steven to hold his breath, it kinda reminds me of the movie "John Dies At The End" when the Jamaican tells David about his own dream he had where a stick of dynamite explodes at the same time thunder crashes in the real world. The Jamaican's words are kinda scary; "In your dream, the explosion became the thunder. But the dream started 30 seconds before the thunder hit. How did your mind know that the thunder was coming?"
I do like the idea that some tiny fragment of rose still exists, like bits of her memory or her emotions, that would be in line with her message to Steven "when you feel love from yourself that's me loving being you". I'm a little less keen on rose still being a functional entity dormant inside Steven, it just doesn't seem to go with the huge amount of loss the series has shown for rose, just having Steven having an avatar relationship with her as a mentor seems like it would break up alot of the emotional build we've had.
It so moving to have a episode of Steven trying to get in contact with Rose and end up going through her memories but still for some reason Rose can't see or even feel Steven's presence. Steven while is enjoying learning more about Rose, feels sad that he won't be able to talk directly to her. It is only when he came upon a certain memory that he starts feeling her emotions and thoughts through empathy in which Rose is finally able to see Steven but only just for a split second.
Very very interesting! Who knows! I see this as likely or even entirely canon. In a way it's very akin to a fusion, which Steven has been compared to several times in the guidebook, and we know by the scene where Lapis renounces her identity and whenever a fusion talks to itself, that the fusers do exist within the Fusion's subconscious.
I've definitely thought about the whale as a manifestation of Rose's conciousness, but I hadn't thought much about dog copter's appearances in Steven's dreams! you make a lot of good points!
Random observation: Dog Copter meows at Steven in Chille Tid.
Ronaldo has a blog post talking about Dog Copter 4, where he says: "Dogcopter dies defending the planet but then he comes back to life because he’s actually part cat and cats have 9 lives."
I know it's a pretty obvious connection to make what with Steven being part Gem.
I wonder if it will ever be revealed that Dog Copter is Cookie Cat's son.
Did I just.... Did I just squeal with delight? Lol Cookie Cat needs more screen time!
This is good, I kinda had an idea what you were gonna talk about but once again you've blown my mind.
It's funny that this Theory you had essentially predicted storm in the room
This probably explains why The floating pink whale was oblivious as to what Steven wanted,
And tried to take care of him and tried to bond with him or something so Steven thought he left the room,Rose wanted to get to know more about Steven
BUT then Rose knew that it was cruel to let Steven stay,so she let him go
Idk I was guessing,
This is my theory
Rose: I cant let you leave I LOVE YOU!
Steven: IF YOU LVE ME LET ME GOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
this theory is wonderful...it's hits points perfectly to me. the show has already introduced Stevens ability to talk to lost gems in dreams, lik he did lapis in chille tid. dog copter and the little pink whale could definitely be rose in Stevens dreams. I also believe that if steven taps into this ability more..he can actually c rose in her real form. great job
There should be a theory video revolving around episode "Mindful Education". It reveals so much about how fusion comes undone, like in "Keystone Motel", and about mental realms between fusions, like in the last nightmare in "Chille Tid".
I love watching these videos! You are so much fun to watch!
yeah but the oly thing is that he makes a video like evry 2 weeks not blaming aj
+mark pangit hard to make lots of videos when the show is on hiatus!
+mark pangit hahhahahahahahhahha
the word "PANGIT" is so hilarious.
JaYsOn FuEnTeS thats kind of mean
mark pangit i know cause im a filipino
hhhehehhhehehe........
Wow! This is so great, just like your other theories. You never cease to impress me. On an unrelated note, have you ever considered going or gone to comic con? It's in Tampa this year and I would absolutely love to meet you. Just a silly thought.
I imagine it would be like Superman comunicating with his father's hologram. His father isn't really there, but Superman can still have discussions with his father and use his knowledge.
This is...an actually great theory! That would explain his powers not working
This is probably one of my most favorite theories/discussions you've made. I also have an idea for this:
It's possible that upon Steven's birth, Rose's body began to disappear, like being poofed. Instead of Rose dying, once Steven was born, she was trapped in her gemstone, like as if she were poofed. She can't regenerate, that would possibly hurt or kill Steven. So because she is still in her gem, that is how she is able to tap into Steven's subconscious
that makes sense
you could also mention that when amethyst and greg were caught fighting, Steven was really upset and the tv went static.
I have been thinking this during the WHOLE show! I so totally agree with you, and also because steven is so young, you could say that there's a disconnect between his subconscious and his conscience just because he doesn't understand it yet. He is a child, and he is still learning what he wants to become, as seen with the "subtext" used when he clenches his fist on his shirt saying "humans" and also how he felt a disconnect with connie because he was a half gem in the birthday episode. As I said before, steven is still young, and he's trying to find out just who he is, whether that be a crystal gem, a human, or in the middle. He still has much to learn about others and himself, not even as just a half gem learning his powers, but as a youth trying to figure out who he wants to be.
to go along with the "rose still manifesting herself" thing, as you said the tiny floating whale and dog copter are a manifestation of her mind, lion is a manifestation of her body.
what makes me think this is, first of all he's pink.
all of the other gems manifest a body naturally around their gem, steven can't do that as he already has a solid body around his gem, so as a.... failsafe?... flood gate, he automatically created lion as a release of that extra energy that wasn't being used.
why wouldn't it manifest as rose again? not sure, but steven has some kind of fascination with cats, tiger millionaire, cat fingers. so his body created a construct that reflected that.
lion also actually listens to steven when he's serious.
there's also the fact that he stores all of roses things inside of him, it's been shown that gems contain a pocket demention, within themselves where they can store stuff, just look at the many times pearl has done it.
you forgot cookie cat and lion lickers
+immortal_gaming those were outside influences created by a company to sell product, so i can't count them.
and judging by the most recent episode aj might be right
AJ, this is one of your best theories yet!
Dude, at the moment I'm finding upload notifications from your channel more exciting than anyone else's! Loving your content :)
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I love all your theories, you have the best Steven Universe theories I've been able to find on UA-cam!
I wouldn't be surprised to learn later that Rose's mind resides in some part of Steven's, especially given that (though she doesn't seem to think this is the case) Pearl asks in "Rose's Scabbard" if Steven has any of her memories and that the creators have a passion for foreshadowing.
I really like this theory. I imagine it being used as a kind of deus-ex-machina, like if there was some really bad situation and they were stuck, somehow Rose would take control of Steven and help them win the fight. And Steven can shapeshift too so it would be like Rose really being back again, for a little bit at least.... It could work.
+ameXkage That wouldn't be a Deus Ex Machina. Deus Ex Machina never evolves naturally from the narrative. It is always an entirely external force, outside of the characters' control.
Top notch theory. Not just wild speculation and wishful thinking.
I really don't like the idea of Rose returning in any form. It's very "fanfic-ish." But I do like the idea that Steven's subconscious has a lot of the knowledge Rose had while she was still alive due to them partly being the same person in a way.
Talking to his mother through the use of the room is incredibly ingenious. If that is true, I can see him returning to the room on a daily basis to be with his mother, maybe even living there. It will also be the basis to answer a lot of questions that only she'd know. But like you said, it wouldn't be anytime during this season, a little bit more time to mature, a little bit more experience.
I have to agree about the possibility, I just have one note, Steven's subconscious didn't force the events with cloud Connie, He says that he doesn't want her to do what he wants, that in turn causes her to glitch for a moment before becoming a somewhat independent creation of the room. Because she was a part of the room, she was able to see that Steven wants to tell her the truth, possibly subconsciously, I won't deny that, but because of this, Cloud Connie forces Steven to tell Connie the truth. It's not that big of a thing, but I just felt that clarification was important.
Also, did you notice that in "Cat Fingers" when Amethyst was trying to teach Steven how to shape shift, his first question was if he could shape shift into a big lion. I think this also supports your theory, as Steven himself wanted to turn into a lion, which would explain why his gem projection turned into one.
can you do a lapis theory i want to know why lapis ilwas trapped in the mirror
theres hardly any information about that at this point, but im sure well learn eventually
+Noah Nunez if you watch the beginning of The Answer when Saphire is walking with her Ruby Guards, you can briefly see Lapis in front of them implying that she was once an important diplomatic homeworld jem. My theory is that Rose trapped her in the mirror and this way she could see Lapis's knowledge of the higher class and how they operate and use it help fight against them in the rebellion. It probably isn't correct but that's what i think.
Tom Barker interesting thought
he's already done that.
yeah
Fascinating theory. I have been thinking the series could end with Steven having a near death experience and him talking to Rose inside his mind and Rose regenerating separating from Steven, taking away his Gem powers. Steven would still be alive thanks to his physical body being half-human.
I would like to mention the part of the episode where amythest cracks her gem. At the end when they turn the fountain back on and we see roses silhouette. Maybe that was the sub conscious rose trying to reach out to Steven? Thought that might be interesting to mention and here everyone else's ideas of
Wow good one
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thought it might be interesting to mention. maybe it was rose trying to reach out to him in his sub countous?
I always thought this was the case. because of the Lion 3 episode where Rose recorded the message for Steven saying the every moment Steven loves being himself will be her loving him and loving being him.
Can you imagine that happening, and Steven becoming obsessed with that room, and the fake mother?
And the gems having to break the door down or something for Steven´s sake?
Can totally see that happening.
I love this idea, it makes sense. Do you think she is just a part of his mind, or is she somehow still aware of things as well?
you are briliant, i have thought that they could like pull her mind into a gem without a mind, but what you say sounds ALOT more possible. that they maybe able to talk in the room, or in some special way.
I subscribed just because of this one video by the way, because i like the idea so much, that you (and whomever else) had.
This is basically what I thought from the beginning, but you added more evidence to it thank you. :) love your videos
I love this theory.
+Aj universe Wow nice theory haven't though of this one before
This theory was probably the most reasonable one I have seen.
And also, my mind was blown 😱
This theory is reminiscent of, avatar the last Airbender, Naruto, and bleach, to an extent. In all of those shows the main character connects to other people who have become a part of said main character through meditation and mastering of one's self. Rebecca had admitted that he work is highly influenced by anime, and it is possible, by avatar as well. If these things are true as we know them to be it is highly likely that Steven will eventually come to control his powers completely only after he had died deep enough into himself that he confronts his mother directly. I also have another theory about a correlation between avatar and Steven but that is a gem in another kino Der toten.
#DogCopterIsGod
Maybe if Rose being in Steven's subconscious is what the writers intended (which I strongly agree with) then once Steven is able to meditate and actually talk to Rose inside his mind in his room, that's when he'll start to figure out how to use his powers willingly. I think Steven's gem powers still belong to Rose, and Steven unlocks them when he feels maternal and protective feelings like Rose does, so in a way when he's connecting to her spirit. So once he's able to finally talk to her through meditation, he'll be able to start learning how to work together with her to be consciously in control of their powers together. And maybe they'd be able to start functioning similar to a fusion, not the same of course, but similar. C:
You made a really good point. How do you even come up with these awesomely complex theories?!
You amaze me with your theories! I couldnt try to be as good as you
My mind has just been blown. Great theory! :)
I got some theories are the diamonds like the three beaches of government blue being deplmatatic yellow melatariy, pink being public and white the leading and I thought of what if nobody is truly evil
This theory is amazing, I love it and think that's really legit.
Another detail, remember what Rose told Steven in her video?
"Steven, we can't both exist. I'm going to become half of you. And I need you to know that every moment you love being yourself, that's me, loving you and loving being you. Because you're going to be something extraordinary. You're going to be a human being."
Also remember what we learned in "We Need to Talk" that Rose main flaw is that she is really literal. So that little speech was probably literal too. She IS part of him and she loves him, further proving your Rose = Steven's Subconscious theory.
Now, what i'm not sure is exactly how complex this Rose Subconscious is. She could be a completely functional being, with her memories intact and the capacity of interacting with others if given a mean (like Rose´s room), she could be only the personality, capable of interacting but only able to vaguely recall the knowledge that Rose had (like Luna from Sailor Moon maybe?). Or it is just a ghost, an imprint of Rose personality that can give prerecorded messages so to speak but is unable to really interact with anyone else.
in the episode when steven is in his room and he says that he wants to talk to peridot after she was poofed,he got to see her say her last words.Maybe if rose was part of the room he would have access to what she said right before she had steven.then we might know a LITTLE more about rose and steven.BTW,this video was mindblowing.now i cant think straight.
interesting, i knew from when u said dog copter was trying to tell him about holding his breath that rose was his subconcious. However i think that rose can actually be revived. If his gemstone is removed, it would make sense that rose would come back, this however will remove steven's powers and change him on a psychological level as a chunk of his subconcious is now gone and retrieved into rose quartz's memories and feelings. This would mean he would forget a few things such as loving himself, dog copter, the familiar books and other things such as how to use his powers and the whale. This would be fun to tackle and also i think they will do this at the season finale of season 4 or season 5 if any.
also steven could inhabit a watermelon steven and rose could possess his body.
I love this theory! Gives the show and Steven an avatar the last airbender feel seeing as he can potentially summon his 'past self'
Well this theory can tie down the phrase "I'm going to be half of you" by rose so it is plausible
Great theory Aj, it makes sense
This is maybe one of the most accepted theories. Well explained nonetheless.
I feel like dogcopter is rose. she could have taken that form after steven saw the preview.She likes animals, and she probally wants to help steven, so it makes sence to me.
That's a cool theory. Especially when you remember the dream sequence Steven had with dogcopter about art in that one episode (I forget which). It's pretty cool to think that that was actually Rose speaking to Steven using dogcopter as a medium. Heh. She knows a lot about art XD.
Really interesting theory and very well presented. I always love your videos, keep up the great work dude!
By definition, though, a person's subconscious is a part of their mind they aren't aware of (despite the fact that it often influences one's conscious thoughts and behavior). If Rose is indeed part of Steven's subconscious, and Steven becomes aware of that, she wouldn't be his subconscious anymore. She'd be part of his conscious mind. It is an interesting theory, though.
you are more than amazing! Your theories and speculations are the best I've seen! How do you came up with these ideas! You are my favorite!
this theory is awesome keep them coming please
About 7:00 Like in Avatar? :P
I actually thought that too, though.
I really hope the writers of this show, look at this video and make it a reality. 1. Because it is very clever with pretty much no plot holes and would be a perfect explanation. 2. I really want to see Steven interact with his mother. Just not right now. We're still kinda developing Peridot's character arc after Steven Bomb 4/Birthday Bomb.
They probably have. Maybe they'll admit it in Steven Bomb 5... coming soon!
Yo, they came out of hiatus with Steven bomb 4, just to go back into hiatus.
That's an interesting theory AJ. In the "An Indirect Kiss" episode when Steven was under water when Rose's fountain turned back on he saw what appeared to be Rose reaching out for him. So would that also be applied to this theory of Rose being a part of his subconscious?
Hrm. Another dark variant of this would be that Rose is growing herself a hybrid body and will, at some point later on, reassert herself and push 'Steven' into being a submerged personalty.
+neeneko "I need you to know that every moment you love being yourself--that's me, loving you" Yes I am very sure that Rose is trying to take possession of Steven. I'm sorry, but this just seems like conjecture to make the show "edgier".
Never thought of it before but... Yeah, that totally fits.
If they do this it'll be so bittersweet. I love your theory. I have several theories of my own but as usual I can't think of them when I need to -_-" darn.
Rose still exists because Steven is a fusion of her and Greg, but since Greg isn't a gem the change happened entirely to Rose. She remains in Steven's subconscious just like Ruby and Sapphire exist in Garnet's subconscious, constantly aware but only subtly present as Steven's communion with his Gem and it's powers.
wow. it seems that rose COULD be the very core of Steven's subconscious. You make a very good point of that.
may I put a theory. I think that rose wanted to watch Steven grow up so became half of Steven's subconscious But she couldn't fully go in so she went and became part of her room and she trys to contact with Steven though the tiny floating whale and was able to make contact so she was able to go in stevens dreams so she show up as dogcopter something steven knows. So then Rose can be with steven in some way. BUT she can't fully because she is half of steven so her only way of contact with steven is though the room and though his dreams
In my own opinion, I don't think Steve will ever be able to remember Rose's memories. On the premise that the Gems are like quantum computers, it would be like installing a new operating system, yes, the files might still be on the hard drive, but because of the difference in how the different OS's store, read, and analyze data, you wouldn't be able to access those files unless you had some kind of Data converter, that could take the data written in the language of the old OS and convert it into something the new OS could read.
"But Rose is half of Steven, his mind should be similar to hers!"
Wrong, Steven is a human that has a gem, not a Gem that is like a human. It's been shown on many occasions, when the CG's don't understand human traditions or idiosyncrasies, that how Gems minds work, and how Humans minds work are completely separate, and that Steven, in that area is 100% human. So transferring data from the mind of a gem to the mind of a human would be like trying to run a Skyrim on one of those fridges with a tablet in the door. Sure, it can be done, but not directly, and it would definitely take some doing. Of course, somethings are similar, so a little bit might get through, but they'd be the less complex thoughts, like "Go here," "Follow Me" or "Believe in Yourself" So I think that the second possibility is the most likely.
I support this theory alot and makes sense. I think another tie in to it is the episode where amethyst cracks her gem and they are in the fond and Steven see the rose putting out a hand but it was just the statue above them. It would be his subconscious aka rose trying to let him know that he needs to come up now
This theory definitely makes sense to me. I am, however, nervous to see how Rose reacts to Steven when he does finally reach that point. During Rose's time on Earth, before meeting Greg, she was so set on protecting it and keeping it from the Home World Gems. At this point, Steven has been successful at befriending two of the three HW Gems introduced thus far. I can see the friendships Steven makes shaping his outlook on HW Gems as a whole, especially since he has nothing else to base them off of other than what Pearl and Garnet tell him.
I'm wondering if his changing outlook will bring him more towards the idea of overthrowing the Diamonds and freeing all the other HW Gems instead of keeping all non-Crystal Gems away from Earth forever. If this is the case, how will Rose react to that idea? Steven will basically be doing away with her original plan and essentially be inviting more HW Gems to Earth.
I could be completely off the mark here, but I thought this was really interesting!
To answer that, I think the Guidebook to the Crystal Gems explains that Rose has faith that Steven will establish a connection between gemkind and humanity in his own way. So, in that case, Rose would probably be the proudest mother in the universe if/when he pulls that off somehow.
+Lucas Martinez Ah, I really want to get my hands on that Guidebook! Thanks man.
this is some top notch Freudian hypothesizing
Wow, amazing and interesting theory.
Never thought of this like that. It perfectly explaines what´s with Rose now. I am out of words.
I think, if Steven was about to meet Rose, it wouldn´t be the Crystal Gems Rose, but Homeworld Rose Quartz.
PS: I am watching Steven Universe from Animeflavor too XD
You're doing it again! Mind blow!
everything is now so "crystal clear" :o
oooooo this is exactly the type of thinking ive been looking for. subscribed!
hmmm kind of how naruto was able to talk to his mother when he reached his subconscious? that can totally make sense!
I would really hope that Steven could unlock and control his powers on his own, independent of his subconscious or perhaps Rose. In Jungian psychology The subconscious is what one is not directly aware of in their psyche but by a trigger can be something conscious. This trigger can be subliminal(not perceived knowingly) or something related or unrelated that reminds the conscience of something no longer thought of. Steven is learning such as when he summoned the shield against Lapis or when the Crystal Gems attempted to corner Peridot.
I think that Rose could show herself in Steven's Room/Dreams , but she chooses not to as it might make him too emotional , like in the episode where Amethyst morphs into Rose to mentally torture Greg.Steven sees this , and is overtaken by emotion.
Ok so I wanted to ask you about this. You know the theory that our pearl used to belong to white diamond. I just noticed that in the answer when rose and pearl attacked blue diamonds court, pearls hair is completely white and her outfit is different. Then at the end of the answer when they stumble upon Cotten candy garnet pearls hair is orange (like it is now) and her outfit is different from the beginning of the episode. I don't know if anyone else noticed this but I haven't seen any theories about this. It also helps show the amount of time Rudy and Sapphire were on earth.
+Sophie Ginger Her outfit isn't structurally different. It is just washed of all of its color to match with Pearl's overall white color. Every Gem in the first half of that episode, except for Blue Diamond and Blue Pearl, who are their true colors, are like that, only having one predominant color. They go back to having their regular color schemes once they are on the surface of the Earth. It is to show the difference in attitude going from the rigid, structured court of a Diamond to the freedom found on Earth.
+AJ Universe oh okay just curious thanks for responding!
+AJ Universe
Check out some of the Superman comics and movies. Sometimes Superman's father copies his brain and personality into the computer of the ship which speaks to Superman through a hologram
I don't know if you know this AJ, but there is a popular anime named Naruto where the main character's father and mother dies. Now the father and mother seals part of their own soul within the main character and that main character, in a point of his life where he needs their help, does meet the soul of his father and then his mother. It could be like that, but instead of a one time thing, maybe it's something he can activate. Either way, i agree with you that Rose is not coming back as she once was.
this is such a good theory