@@rogerreed905 I'm talking about this video channel's editors regarding their thumbnail saying "£4" (four pounds) and the title saying "£4M" (four million pounds). I'm not talking about the company featured in this video.
Pretty simple negotiation tactics. Also I think people don’t at all understand the gravity of the opportunity cost of investing in early stage businesses like this.
Company was dissolved in 2013. Company traded very poorly based on the fact that in the final Administrators report, showed that there was an estimated £932k deficit.
Peter shaking his head when they’ve barely started talking showed he could get it mightily wrong at times. Duncan however was right on board and cannily got the deal.
While it may well have been "valued at £4m months after The Den", Igloo went into administration in 2010 and wound up by order of the court in 2011 ... but yes, I see that makes for a less pithy video title!
@@vics749 In all of the Dragon's Den episodes I've seen I've never thought that a reaction from a Dragon has been taken from a different part of the show and inserted it into another conversation to make it look like something happened that didn't. And I don't think it happened here. Peter is probably disgusted at the percentage offered.
Peter stated (in effect) that the business is so successful that they don't need his money and therefore they are wasting his time? I think it's him whose brain has fried - exactly what he told them
These guys were very thorough and clearly knew their market and how to provide good service. The dragons, especially Peter, were unfair, in an era when Peter wasn’t the coward that he was today. Sadly, he has gone the other way. Peter was the best in the mid seasons in the early to mid 10s!
Where do you get this informations in the comments? I have no clue what happened with the dragons. would be nice to know their way of exit. Igloo company went into insolvency. Their debt was paid off by Total Temperature, and last year it was valued 225k equity.
"This Business Was Valued At £4M Months After The Den" By whom? And were they willing to actually pay £4M for it? Anyone can say "I put a value of $200m on this".
What masterful sound's engineering, where the narrative is drowned out by superfluous "music".
Shocking
Good effort but you need to turn the music up louder so it completely drowns out Evan.
That's exactly what we want to happen with autistic Evan 🙈
Yep, Evan's repetition of what we can already hear for ourselves is really effing annoying🤬
I fast fwd past Evan every time.
@@paulstannard7985 You have said exactly what I would have said but in a far more concise way thank you
I wish one of the dragons would invest in a sound editor
Too right - the background music was too loud
Background music is far too loud...!!! 👎🏾
Whoever does the sound needs to be sacked, shocking job
these 2 have good bussiness brains which work perfectly together
8:56 Love the way Richard Farleigh shoe horns himself into bed with Duncan here. Haven't heard a peep from him so far what a boss 🤣🤣
I love when Jones eats humble pie
Can you guys please turn the voices down?? I can't hear the music!!
JUST LOOK AT DUNCAN'S FACE AT 10:48 ,THAT WILL MAKE YOUR DAY
PROMISE,even THE SAME FACE AT 11:08 TOO LMAOOOOOOO
11:08 is hilarious
@@lrtk5853 YES LOL
@@maryjanesnow ALWAYS BE HAPPY 😊😁
@@lrtk5853he temporarily left this Universe
Bummer about losing that much value after the Den! 4 pounds…
Who edits the video thumbnails and video titles? Pretty huge difference between £4.00 and £4,000,000.00
Google them . . They have a turnover of over 20million . .current company value is around 4mill
@@rogerreed905 I'm talking about this video channel's editors regarding their thumbnail saying "£4" (four pounds) and the title saying "£4M" (four million pounds). I'm not talking about the company featured in this video.
@@Eidolon1andOnly on the banner . . Got ya . . 👍
@@rogerreed905 *The company was dissolved on 6th February 2013.*
@@Trigger_000 there is one site saying that but theres still an upto date web site with current information . . .
The music is too loud.
It drowns out the narrator.
That's the point.
That's a good thing.
It's a staple of this show, they keep doing this even in the newer seasons.
*series@@RealRushinRussian
That is a good thing, he does not tell us anything we don't already know!
One of those series where Peter was really off with the majority of the entrepreneurs, regardless of how good they were.
Didn't like the arrogant nod if the head and the way he looked down on people too
Pretty simple negotiation tactics. Also I think people don’t at all understand the gravity of the opportunity cost of investing in early stage businesses like this.
Company was dissolved in 2013. Company traded very poorly based on the fact that in the final Administrators report, showed that there was an estimated £932k deficit.
Suprisingly, both Duncan and Richards investment went through - So sadly lost out on this one.
They trade under the name TOTAL TEMPERATURE MANAGEMENT LTD now
Thats a lie
So why is Alistair the CEO of Igloo thermal logistics today?
You are really bad at researching.
Peter shaking his head when they’ve barely started talking showed he could get it mightily wrong at times.
Duncan however was right on board and cannily got the deal.
Unwatchable with the music drowning out any commentary.
Ruined by the music being louder than the voice over.
British is the best
yes
yeah but who cares what evan davis has to say? literally never says anything of any value
@@paddym27
"Paddy m says I've nothing of value to say. But peter jones has a question that disagrees with that statement."
Debra gets too shirty with them at 03.33, Duncan tries to clarify the question and she's not happy with him either.
For once it’s not my dyslexia kicking in, £4 on one title and £4M on the other
Huh? 4 M of course...
@@scienceevolves4417He was referring to the hilarious typo on the thumbnail
@@darthmetallus1977 ah, I see it now, so they missed just one letter on the thumbnail.
Imagine if my bank missed that
@@crazy-jakeprobably not a legitimate risk. Hehe
Is it £4M or £4? Video titles abit wrong.
*a bit, two words.
given what happened when DHL took over the KFC logistics deal, the idea is, they want to be far better than the "DHL of Frozen"
While it may well have been "valued at £4m months after The Den", Igloo went into administration in 2010 and wound up by order of the court in 2011 ... but yes, I see that makes for a less pithy video title!
Company went into liquidation in 2011 and dissolved in 2013.
They defrosted
The music is not high enough. Needs to be higher. I can hear the narrative way too clearly.
Music is drowning
CANT HEAR YOU MATE YOURE A BIT QUIET
Sound engineers on the juice again
only just made some food and new dragons den video only uploaded, Dream.
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please turn the background music up
i can sort of still hear people talking
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Smart guys.
Happy lunch time everyone btw 🥪
Breakfast time in Australia 👋
Now this is an old episode
0:17 Entrepeneur says hi, 0:35 Peter is already shaking his head and looking disgusted. The Dragons were such moody arses in the old series.
True.
Yes because nothing is ever edited on tv to look a certain way
@@vics749but if it never actually happened, what would be the point of editing this?
@@vics749 In all of the Dragon's Den episodes I've seen I've never thought that a reaction from a Dragon has been taken from a different part of the show and inserted it into another conversation to make it look like something happened that didn't. And I don't think it happened here. Peter is probably disgusted at the percentage offered.
Because Peter could easily foresee what eventually happened to the business.
The bloke with the glasses looks like Michael Harper from My Family.
The sound mixing on some of the episodes is a total joke 🤣
Omg the commentator again sounds like he is talking through a ton can please ❣️😳
Ton can?
Music is way too loud!
those young men are very good, they will succeed.
Couldn’t watch it. Music to loud
Peter stated (in effect) that the business is so successful that they don't need his money and therefore they are wasting his time? I think it's him whose brain has fried - exactly what he told them
They've dissolved, & on the Indeed job website, they get 2.5 out of 5 from employees.
Sounds like the audio engineer needs to get his ears checked. That's abysmal mixing.
These guys were very thorough and clearly knew their market and how to provide good service. The dragons, especially Peter, were unfair, in an era when Peter wasn’t the coward that he was today. Sadly, he has gone the other way. Peter was the best in the mid seasons in the early to mid 10s!
Is that it? Refrigerated transport??
Where do you get this informations in the comments? I have no clue what happened with the dragons. would be nice to know their way of exit. Igloo company went into insolvency. Their debt was paid off by Total Temperature, and last year it was valued 225k equity.
I like them
The dragons were so rude in the early years
The £4 had my interest too 😂
The idea is great but to do it well it takes huge money and resources. Nothung a startup can do.
Nice to see Hugh Grant got investment into n his company.
Surely someone knows how the business is getting on these days?
The company was dissolved on 6th February 2013.
@@Ken-P they defrosted
0:35 why does Peter look so annoyed already lol? He’s heard nothing about the business.
Because one of them said £160k for 8% and right away Peter knows it's never gonna happen
Tin can sound on the commentator so annoying
Ethereum 🎉
"This Business Was Valued At £4M Months After The Den"
By whom? And were they willing to actually pay £4M for it? Anyone can say "I put a value of $200m on this".
Looking at their returns the business was never worth anywhere near £4M, £1.5 was the highest it got years later before going bust.
Fire the sound engineer/mixer....Awful
£0 is the real value of this business not £4M lol
good job but not a good pitch closed body language know open hand ilustrater gestures insecurity protecting the jewels etc
£4 LOL
0:30 onwards 2 or more dragons at the start who's ball sacks was visibly seen shrinking. These lads did very well
Admin and dissolved.
Bummer about Deborah's aging process. Imagine what she looked like 20 years before the Den... A page 3 stunner💃
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
No way 😅
Apparently she looked like that since she left high school
Did they take this from a VHS? 🫠 📼