The best interviewer I've ever heard. She gets more out of her guests by saying less and not making it about her. She has a real gift that is lacking today on mainstream shows/channels. These interviews are a sheer joy to listen to, and I even tend to learn something along the way as well.
If an artist wants to study how to spot potential genre connections, in general I recommend reading Campbell’s ‘The Hero With a Thousand Faces’ to people. ^^ To push art forward, artists should be trying to find invisible connections beneath genres and they may be able to create entirely new models of storytelling. For example, Mary Shelly brought Prometheus into the context of Gothic horror and created ‘Frankenstein’ as a result. In the film industry, samurai and western films have been famously transmuted into each other. ‘Seven Samurai’ became ‘Magnificent Seven’ and ‘Yojimbo’ became ‘A Fistful of Dollars’. In the first place, Kurosawa was fond of taking western stories(particularly from Shakespeare) like ‘Macbeth’ and ‘King Lear’ and placing them in the context of Japanese culture as films like ‘Throne of Blood/Cobweb Castle’ and ‘Ran’. ‘Cowboy Bebop’ notably comments on the underlying parallels between the western and samurai genres. The TV series, ‘Kung Fu’, does something similar by placing a Xiaolin monk into the old west as a cowboy figure. ‘Blade Runner’ stands out partly by seizing on the existential parallels between the cyberpunk genre and film noir by placing a Sam Spade-style detective character at the center of a techno dystopia. The film, ‘Alphaville’, does something similar. The magical girl genre conspicuously parallels patterns in the mecha, mon (short for ‘monster’), and super sentai genres too.
What your basically saying is: *Get a known story* and use that *well known theme* & *wrap it up in new packaging* And _add a bow ribbon_ and you have a *new product* Excellent:)
One of the insights I got from reading the book is that the hero's journey is a journey into one's own psyche. After reading the book I re-watched Apocalypse Now and realized that Willard was on a hero's journey and all the characters were aspects of his psyche. It's about the Atonement with the Father, who was Kurtz.
I read Joseph Campbell's books in a literature course back in 2000. John touched on aspects of the book I had never considered. Thank you for bringing us this video.
Thank you for another vid w/ John Bucher! For discussion: it is as if every character can be their own protagonist and antagonist, and can equally serve as protagonist and antagonist to other characters. Who is functioning as what depends on the POV presented to the reader. But as Mr Bucher eloquently stated, a protagonist is not necessarily a hero. Taking his definition of hero a step further: a hero tenders a favor which can never be repaid. In Death of a Salesman, Willie Loman's older brother is presented as a hero (from Willie's POV), but in the larger picture is actually the antagonist.
A true hero treads the road less traveled. He's able to make the choice no one else can make. The anti-hero is more selfish. He/she makes choices based on survival but, then sees the value of that choice to be heroic while in the midst of the act.
I would debate with him about his Star Wars example. He forgot that in the original trilogy, the empire destroyed an entire planet and murdered millions of people just to make a point. That's the true difference between a hero and villain. They can go through the same arcs, but a villain won't have a problem with breaking universal morals. A hero will do everything not to.
Sometimes there’s a man. A hero? No, I wouldn’t say hero, ‘cause what’s a hero anyway? Sometimes there’s a man. He the man for his time, his place. He fits right in there, just like the Queen’s damned dundies or whatever they call underpants over there. And, well, sometimes there a man.
Idk... he is "contradicting" himself, if some people can view the heir and turtle in themselves at the same time then why cant we have a movie that reflects that? where at midpoint we switch perspective from villian to hero or vice versa, so that we get confused who is good or who is bad, or intersplice it like memento, so that we root for both, the best movies always were where it was hard to tell who is good or bad. i think if well done this would be an impressive achievement and we kinda need it too in this day and age
BS. I love the character Tony Soprano but I never see him like a hero. Hero/heroine is a type of protagonist but there's also the villian. I love Walt Disney (the man) movies and shorts but people specialy americans needs to remember that tagedy is a type of story too. There are two types of stories the heroics (where the commun man become a hero) and the tragedy (where the commun man became the villian). The reason why I talk about Walt is because of him americans only cares if the "hero"(the protagonist) wins. The Tony story is a tragedy not a heroic story. That's why people hate and not understand the final episode because villians never are happy in the end. Well... they get what they want. But at what prince? The same for Walter White and Donald "Dick" Draper. Being the focus of the story don't make you a good person.
The best interviewer I've ever heard. She gets more out of her guests by saying less and not making it about her. She has a real gift that is lacking today on mainstream shows/channels. These interviews are a sheer joy to listen to, and I even tend to learn something along the way as well.
Love this man's voice. All aspects of it.
Yeah, he’s a great speaker.
If an artist wants to study how to spot potential genre connections, in general I recommend reading Campbell’s ‘The Hero With a Thousand Faces’ to people. ^^ To push art forward, artists should be trying to find invisible connections beneath genres and they may be able to create entirely new models of storytelling. For example, Mary Shelly brought Prometheus into the context of Gothic horror and created ‘Frankenstein’ as a result. In the film industry, samurai and western films have been famously transmuted into each other. ‘Seven Samurai’ became ‘Magnificent Seven’ and ‘Yojimbo’ became ‘A Fistful of Dollars’. In the first place, Kurosawa was fond of taking western stories(particularly from Shakespeare) like ‘Macbeth’ and ‘King Lear’ and placing them in the context of Japanese culture as films like ‘Throne of Blood/Cobweb Castle’ and ‘Ran’. ‘Cowboy Bebop’ notably comments on the underlying parallels between the western and samurai genres. The TV series, ‘Kung Fu’, does something similar by placing a Xiaolin monk into the old west as a cowboy figure. ‘Blade Runner’ stands out partly by seizing on the existential parallels between the cyberpunk genre and film noir by placing a Sam Spade-style detective character at the center of a techno dystopia. The film, ‘Alphaville’, does something similar. The magical girl genre conspicuously parallels patterns in the mecha, mon (short for ‘monster’), and super sentai genres too.
Nice Analysis
What your basically saying is:
*Get a known story* and use that *well known theme* & *wrap it up in new packaging* And _add a bow ribbon_ and you have a *new product*
Excellent:)
What is a great insight you got from the book Hero With A Thousand Faces?
One of the insights I got from reading the book is that the hero's journey is a journey into one's own psyche. After reading the book I re-watched Apocalypse Now and realized that Willard was on a hero's journey and all the characters were aspects of his psyche. It's about the Atonement with the Father, who was Kurtz.
I’ve been world building for a book for a decade. This book helped me finally nail down the characters it needs
Its always great to hear from someone who is well spoken and passionate. Great content and advice!
I read Joseph Campbell's books in a literature course back in 2000. John touched on aspects of the book I had never considered. Thank you for bringing us this video.
This is gold. It’s the core of every great film ever made.
Thank you for another vid w/ John Bucher!
For discussion: it is as if every character can be their own protagonist and antagonist, and can equally serve as protagonist and antagonist to other characters. Who is functioning as what depends on the POV presented to the reader. But as Mr Bucher eloquently stated, a protagonist is not necessarily a hero. Taking his definition of hero a step further: a hero tenders a favor which can never be repaid.
In Death of a Salesman, Willie Loman's older brother is presented as a hero (from Willie's POV), but in the larger picture is actually the antagonist.
Great commentary Jonathan! Thanks for posting! Love our interview with John Bucher and we are excited to share more.
@@filmcourage can't wait!
My new favorite voice to listen to. Thank you Film Courage for John's interviews!
One of our new favorites as well! Much more to come!
can't wait!🥰@@filmcourage
Best explanation ever on the hero's journey
Thanks for this. Excellent explanations.
Very interesting 👌
Wonderful interview ❤
Thanks for watching Cledos!
I really like this guy... he speaks straight from the heart and he's deep. Kind of like ME. LOL
Fantastic talk. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks a lot, Film Courage! Great advice ❤
Thankyou FilmCourage!!!
You got it Aaron!
He's a PREACHER!
Don't you recognize it?
Prrachers are GREAT story tellers!
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We are still looking for a 1000 and ONE more face at least
Hey, uh, you got any, uh…. Gum?
humanizing villains went out of control.
A true hero treads the road less traveled. He's able to make the choice no one else can make. The anti-hero is more selfish. He/she makes choices based on survival but, then sees the value of that choice to be heroic while in the midst of the act.
That was really good.
I like the last idea, I felt we can call this "quantum heroism" 😅
I would debate with him about his Star Wars example. He forgot that in the original trilogy, the empire destroyed an entire planet and murdered millions of people just to make a point.
That's the true difference between a hero and villain. They can go through the same arcs, but a villain won't have a problem with breaking universal morals. A hero will do everything not to.
What do you all think of the character Uhtred from the Last Kingdom?
Sometimes there’s a man. A hero? No, I wouldn’t say hero, ‘cause what’s a hero anyway? Sometimes there’s a man. He the man for his time, his place. He fits right in there, just like the Queen’s damned dundies or whatever they call underpants over there. And, well, sometimes there a man.
Idk... he is "contradicting" himself, if some people can view the heir and turtle in themselves at the same time then why cant we have a movie that reflects that? where at midpoint we switch perspective from villian to hero or vice versa, so that we get confused who is good or who is bad, or intersplice it like memento, so that we root for both, the best movies always were where it was hard to tell who is good or bad. i think if well done this would be an impressive achievement and we kinda need it too in this day and age
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
My Hero Academia
Promare
Batman
Spiderman
HWS RIGHT.... 😅😅Robert Mckee says STORY is KING....😅😅😅😅
BS. I love the character Tony Soprano but I never see him like a hero. Hero/heroine is a type of protagonist but there's also the villian. I love Walt Disney (the man) movies and shorts but people specialy americans needs to remember that tagedy is a type of story too. There are two types of stories the heroics (where the commun man become a hero) and the tragedy (where the commun man became the villian). The reason why I talk about Walt is because of him americans only cares if the "hero"(the protagonist) wins. The Tony story is a tragedy not a heroic story. That's why people hate and not understand the final episode because villians never are happy in the end. Well... they get what they want. But at what prince? The same for Walter White and Donald "Dick" Draper. Being the focus of the story don't make you a good person.
"Gray" has been the sounds bites of Psychopathy.
People treat Joseph Campbell like he's Abraham. In this modern age, the hero's journey is dying.
No. You’re dying