@2:30 Just a wee reminder - battery size is kilowatt-hours, not kilowatts. Kilowatts is how fast the tap runs; kilowatt hours is how big the bathtub is.
It doesn't only compete against Tesla but it also goes against the German luxury SUV's. A BMW X series with this much acceleration would cost over $80,000. Although it would still beat the Jag in it's top speed.
Model X warranty does not become void if you drive it off-road. The vehicle is advertised as having this capability. Please read the owners manual before providing incorrect information to your viewers.
But i'm sure some mixed all-terrain BF Goodrich could be fitted for more off-road grip when the owner want to go fishing, kayak, beach or in winter up in the mountains for ski.. ;0)
Not sure if this is blowing smoke up Jaguar's arse, you really dislike Tesla, or you're just clickbaiting (probably some of each), but let's check some of those facts. I'll use the Model S 75D because it's closest in price to the i-Pace, and therefore a more "fair" comparison than the P100D. * Top speed: 124MPH - Model S and X have a top speed of 155MPH, even the Model 3 has a top speed of 140MPH * 0-60 in 4.5sec - Base Model S 75D does 0-60 in 4.2 sec. (In fairness, that is quicker than the base Model X at 4.9sec, but you keep comparing it to the Model S, not the X) * 394HP/512LbFt torque - 75D is 518HP, 485LbFt. * 1000A output, 450A regen: These numbers are meaningless w/o knowing the voltage of the battery. (These things are properly measured in kWh.) But the HP/torque numbers-and corresponding 0-60 time-are lower than the base 75D, so the kWh output will be higher on the Tesla unless the Jag is hugely inefficient. (Why even quote these numbers?) * AWD: of course, all Model S and Model X are AWD, too. * 40 minute to get 80% charge: Same as Tesla, except where are you actually going to find a DC fast charger to plug into, at least in the US? Tesla's Supercharger network is the only reliable fast charging network around. The fair points: * It will go on the track. (But with a top speed of 124MPH? Seriously?!? Note that the Model 3 does better on the track than the S & X, and almost certainly will do better than the i-Pace, too.) * It's "approved" for off-road. Lots of Tesla owners have taken their vehicles on dirt roads, I haven't heard one instance of warranty coverage being denied. But it *IS* still listed as a deal-breaker in Tesla's warranty, which is lame. * Rear controls for climate. Pretty much everything else is a matter of personal preference. The specs on the i-Pace are closest to the non-performance AWD Model 3 (which will be about $10K less, but is a completely different type of vehicle). Don't get me wrong, I think it's a great entry in the EV space, and people looking at a base Model X will probably seriously look at the i-Pace, too. (More importantly, people looking at other ICE mid-side luxury SUVs should look at this!) I just hope you can turn off the insipid fake engine noise.
M scott.. ok man i just want to reply to you (not hate or anything) just hear me a bit : do any Tesla have a pre-heated battery pack ? those are also sealed water-proof ? why? will you ask me but this is very important specially for European climate because the pre-heated battery feature help the car in winter under cold freezing temperatures, some people from Norway, Sweeden, Finland owners of Tesla posted clips on UA-cam with S and X models stuck to wait for the tow truck on the side of the roads in heavy cold winters because the battery pack is not pre-heated or heated in any way at all during the cold winter period, so the battery would drained (empty faster) to try focus to use all the energy for the propulsion, not to mention the struggle for other heat options like defrosted windscreen, heat blowers in the cabin and also for the electronics in the car.. and because the battery pack is not sealed properly since many different Tesla models start to be seen more often to Co-Parts junkyards because battery pack is not sealed properly water flooded inside the battery pack get a short cut which affect the entire electric system in the car and that will cost allot to be replaced. Tesla won't do it usually in such cases the owners calls they detect the issue release documentation and delete the car from up-date program that means the car can be scrapped destroyed or by the opportunist junkers used it to sell under auctions for parts (if Tesla would try to fix it.. they would charge you expensive amount money see on youtube - 'rich rebuilds channel' because on such cases it need to be replace entire electric circuits and all affected electrical components systems + a new battery pack).. so anyway is also pretty annoying each time when you want to do something quick in Tesla you must look at the stupid big screen to search in the many different options adjustments to find certain settings, that should be no problem in the i-pace since it have 3 smaller screens very easy to be read and some simple to use controls common placed for natural and simplistic use, overall i-pace is more balanced is not small like Tesla 3, it is not lower like S and can do a bit off-road but is not as big expensive as some X models.. is kinda in the middle, incorporate many cool stuff in a decent size vehicle.. regarding charging points you right but remember that for Tesla 3 you do not have free supercharging so, anyway in US Tesla obviously rules but across Europe i think this i-pace is worth to be considered since many auto brands started from last year (after the diesel-gate scandal) joined forces in partnership to conceive a form to support building charging points stations for EV vehicles with a certain support from all-EU governments of the countries of Europe that means each country is required by EU committee to help build strategical placed in all key points for each country a certain amount of charging stations depending how big each country is also depending of relief and the available infrastructure, in such way so that allow EV cars owners to travel from West to East of Europe without any worry that can not find charging stations.. (now i will tell you that i live in Croatia and i think it was in 2009-2010 a man from Holland (i think it was a doctor ..) did get a Tesla Roadster first model and i think he was on holiday or something but it actually did that kind of journey with his Tesla Roadster, he went from Holland -Germany-Austria-Slovenia-Croatia-Montenegro-Serbia-Bulgaria-Turkey and then to Cyprus island and back i know since he returned back and i met him on both ways he stopped a day in Croatia), but remember back then Tesla didn't have to many superchargers across all Europe just few on West but so he did it..) hey man, look this is my opinion if you happen to be an Tesla owner in USA be happy with your car.. here in Europe to put now an deposit and order for a Tesla 3 can take more than 1,5 years if not more to actually get the car and with no financial support from govern for any Tesla products is really hard to reach to them here in Europe, a Jaguar i-Pace in basic version cost in my country 65.000 euro but with govern support for clean green vehicles, if you also destroy an old car for example you get a discount voucher that is a cut off from the overall price, also get a start bonus insurance for registering a new clean vehicle and other bonuses deductions the i-Pace price dropped to 46,500 euro and wait no more than 2 months to get the car.. (and that is a price and a time delivery i can actually live with) so now i hope you see with different eyes based on these arguments, why for different parts of this world this new electric vehicle can be better than Tesla. ;0)
Well, you bring up points that mostly weren't addressed in this review, which was what I was responding to. But I'm happy to address your points, too. Yes, Teslas have battery heaters, and from the videos I've seen, the i-Pace works pretty much the same way as Teslas have for at least the last 6 months. (Thanks to a software update last winter.) When you pre-condition the cabin (i.e., turning on the heat from the app), it will also warm the battery if it's very cold. It won't, however, warm the battery if the car is not plugged in and the battery is below a certain SOC (20% maybe?). After all, it doesn't do you a lot of good to burn the rest of your battery heating it. I have seen nothing that suggests Jaguar has done a better job at managing battery temperature than Tesla does. (And there is even a dedicated battery pre-heat feature on the P100D but that's for getting the most power out of the battery for launching, not for cold-weather.) I don't know exactly how well sealed Tesla's batteries are, but they certainly aren't "unsealed." There are some pretty impressive videos of Teslas driving through deep water, just search "tesla driving through water" on UA-cam. I honestly don't know how the two compare. Regarding the touch screen, I think that's a matter of personal taste. I think Tesla has done a great job of making the stuff you need while driving readily available. But it can be annoying to use a touch screen while driving on a bumpy road, so I get that physical buttons might be preferred by some. As for charging infrastructure, non-Tesla charging stations are clearly being built in Europe much faster than they are in the US, so that will make less of a difference to potential EV purchasers in Europe than it will in the US. But one of the biggest areas of push-back from people not already used to an EV is the charging time and ease of locating charging while traveling long distances. Early adopters (like your Roaster owner example) will deal with the extra hassle because it's part of being a trailblazer. But the mass market certainly won't. The USA is also a lot larger that Europe geographically, and has very large, rural areas with limited infrastructure that won't see significant public charging for the better part of a decade. (A town with only one gas station is not likely to see a fast charging station anytime soon. But unlike in Europe, small towns in the US west are often 40+ miles apart, with nothing but farmland in between. ) I agree that the i-Pace is a very different vehicle than any that Tesla currently offers. I was calling out the reviewers for their Tesla comparisons, which were questionable at best. I'm not dis'ing the i-Pace at all (other than the fake engine sounds ;-). I think it's a promising new EV that fits in between the Model 3 and Model S/X. I'm sure Jaguar will sell all they can make. I am not trying to say that the i-Pace is a bad EV, or even that Teslas are better. It was the premise of this review that was trying to make some dubious points so they could put "Tesla" in the title and get a lot more clicks. But it's pretty obvious that Jaguar has a great vehicle here, and I'm very pleased for that. Personally, I'd still buy a Tesla because I live in the US and that charging network matters, and I love the clutter (button)-free interior. The price difference between the i-Pace and Model S 75D is not going to be a significant factor for people who can afford these cars, so I think these cars' features will drive their purchasing decisions. I hope that lots of people pick the i-Pace, it seems like worthy vehicle. (I also hope Porsche sells a ton of Taycans, another very promising new EV.)
i was responded to you since you did pointed some strong facts and because i 'm in the interest to purchase such vehicle in near future but i'm not in urgent need since now is the re-birth of EV sector many other brands started to show new ideas, new concepts and for instance i also seen the latest i.D. concepts from Volkswagen since they learn a harsh lesson and want to re-gain the brand image after massive diesel-gate scandal.. anyway interest on such cars is still rising so i think this sector will grow quick in 1-2 year top.. so i will check them out prospecting the best convenient deal to replace my wife car.. so i just stated what facts i hear about so far and i hope to see better stuff, attractive offers and more diverse products, you know the market is big, so the offer should fit each budget.. i guess we will find out latter what model will really worth by the volumes of the sells too.. ;0)
The artificial engine noise only defaults to 'on' in Dynamic mode, and can be switched off even in Dynamic mode. Supposedly the 200kmh/124mph top speed is electronically limited, down from 250kmh/155mph, due to the drop in range at high velocities. Personally, I seldom go on roads with a limit higher than 124mph - on British roads, if you are caught at 100mph or faster, you instantly lose your driving licence. Where the speed limits are higher, range is teh probem. The big-battery Model X uses 390 Watts/mi at an average of 48mph. I do not know how much higher the consumption is above 1204mph - but it will be a lot. About chargers, a couple of months ago, there were no CCS public chargers in the USA above 75kW (although over 1,100 locations had 50kW CCS rapid chargers). Today, there are a dozen 350kW chargers, and another dozen 150kW chargers, live in the US. The number is small now, but the roll-out has begun, and will accelerate. And, it's worth noting, that all of these chargers are faster than the fastest-available Superchargers. And Superchargers themselves only produce their peak speed if you get two stalls all to yourself.
Test drove Jaguar today and I was impressed. Beautiful dashboard and interior. Apple Carplay. It has a soul, unlike Tesla. But no sunroof, no spare tire, no runflat tire. I hated Tesla 3's aggressive regenerative braking (felt like I slammed on the brakes), plain dashboard, and poor ergonomics screen. Both EVs have great acceleration but ride comfort was much stiffer (hard) compared to luxury sedan combustion engines from Mercedes and Lexus.
The i-Pace is a superb looking car. However I can drive from my house in Manchester to my parents in Portugal seamlessly in my Model S because of the 120 kW Supercharger network. It's not really any slower than doing it in a petrol car. Until they get a 100 kW + powered CCS charging network in place which is expansive as the Tesla one you're going to have to accept some compromise, believe me waiting 2+ hours for completely flat car to charge of a 50 kW is an inconvenience.
i also read on official Jaguar site that on cold winters (low temperature) the i-Pace battery pack is pre-heated before the car actually can be operated, that is very good news a Tesla do not have that (not even as optional feature) as i watched many owners from Norway who brought S and X and complained this because they got stuck because the battery worked harder and drained quicker in freezing cold temperatures, this feature also keep the life of battery pack longer than without it.. so all such small facts counts when it's time to change the normal vehicle to swap it to an full EV..
Yes, the Jag battery pack survives temps of -40F/-40C, and can be charged in temperatures as low as -32C. It also will use mains power to bring the pack up to operating temperature.
Just FYI, the i-Pace is WAY smaller than Model X and has totally different proportions. I understand that the two are compared due to all-electric-ness, but size wise, this is like comparing a Subaru XV Crosstrek with an Audi Q7. Also, there are a lot of reasons, but I'd go for the Tesla for the sake of the Supercharger network alone. I want to be able to travel anywhere in my SUV. Excited to see the i-Pace hit the streets though!
Jorge Tamacas .. Jaguar gives you a 5 year or 60,000 miles of warranty and going offroad and wading don't void it's warrenty .Tesl has a half baked Autopilot and wading will void it's warrenty plus it has panel gaps so Jaguar is a better option.
There are a lot of comments about Jaguar reliability. Keep up people! Jaguar have sorted their issues out a long time ago. They do very well in customer surveys like JD Power etc. often beating the German manufacturers. I was not a Jaguar fan until they launched the XF, I’m currently on my second one and love it. A very reliable car.
As much as people deride Jaguar for the time they were owned by Ford, the reliability improved greatly. Have had 0 issues with my 2007 X-Type other than wear and tear items and annual servicing.
I'm saying no. But ev-tech is improving and I only have gripes on the interior electronics. I guess, you should just stick onto Toyota/Lexus Hybrid vehicles until Toyota makes an all electric suv or crossover.
"Is reliable in the long run?" It has to be better than the likes of Teslas...Model S owners with mileage past 75K were having 80% of those vehicles having had entire powertrains replaced, at least once...some multiple times. So far those were done within warranty limits. Somewhere in a warehouse in Tesla-land, there are thousands of motors & powertrains.....maybe they were "rebuilt", & carted off to the factory...& put into "new" ones...ya' never know?
Well, are internal combustion engined-cars (ICEs) reliable in the long run? These cars have fewer moving parts, less of the car needs routine servicing. Things like the suspension and the driveshaft gaiters will be just like an ICE - but the drivetrain will need radically less routine servicing - e.g. no more needing a new cambelt every 5 years. Basically engine and gearbox issues have gone, and motor, control electronics and battery pack is likely to be more reliable than an engine, gearbox and its control electronics.
eatadickorsomeum I'd buy it because it looks normal, inside and out. I like the whole idea of electric vehicles but I absolutely hate the dashboard in all the Teslas. Yup, I'm simple. I just don't see the point of having a giant screen to have to dick around with to do even the simplest things. Going into the menu to open the glove box? What a clusterfuck!
@@scottfurlong5475Have you driven it yet, or are you assuming stuff without actually experiencing it? I am surprised you have a cell phone since it doesn't look "traditional"...Smh.
Concerning the range and the battery. So a Model S will give you significantly more range on a 100D for more money. Shocking! What were you expecting? How about comparing it to a 75D which will give you 259 miles for $74'500?
Don’t forget the network of superchargers right on the regular interstate that would use normally. And the network is so big and reliable that you could go coast to coast. Even into Mexico and Canada.
For some reason i can not post the link in here but i will say this if off-road is needed Delta wheels can help they did an promotional clip here on youtube called: "Tesla X fitted with mudd-terrain tires and Delta -rims" i think it would help in case of this i-Pace Jaguar too.. ;0)
abbaby555 ...electric vehicles are COAL BURNING VEHICLES... please do the research. If you’re goal is to save the planet in style...not that it’s necessary... this vehicle won’t do it. Have a good day.
Melon Rain Every study so far says that even charging with electricity from 100% coal has a better life cycle outcome. But electricity networks get greener by the day, so go figure. Can gasoline get greener by the day?
Diego Matter ...catalytic converters, O2 sensors, detergent gasoline....so yeah. Oh wait there’s vvt , variables displacement, twin turbo set ups. Get the picture? Electric vehicles are the answer to nothing but an individuals own eccentric self. Have a nice day.
Melon Rain The electrical grid here in these parts are fed by a hydroelectric Dam, not coal. This is the case with many areas around the world, not to mention the wind turbines here and all over the world, so how is it that you are labeling all electric cars as 'coal burners'? Clearly you are the one not doing your research. Hate electric vehicles if you want but try not to make a complete twit out if yourself.
Great car and fantastic interior. I understand why people are comparing this to the Tesla but all points are moot. The average consumer is still waiting for 350 kWh public chargers and 400 miles of range for 30000 euro.
The average consumer doesn't have $80 000 to spend on a car or the money to keep one of these running in 5 years time when second hand ones will be affordable. One of the reasons Tesla owners haven't class action law suited the company is because most of their customers already own more than one car, so it's no big deal when it dies.
You lost me right there, when you said that driving a Tesla off-road will void your warranty. It is not true. On a Model S, damages produced by off-road use are not covered (this is not the same as voiding). And the Model X (which is being positioned by Jaguar as the direct competitor for the i-Pace) does not have this limitation.
On official Tesla site it say that Tesla will void the warranty of the battery pack if the owner drive thru water and if they suspect that ( of course after an inspection )they will proceed to one of 2 things next depending on the agreement with the owners : erase the vehicle from data base of Tesla that means the vehicle will not receive any more up-dates and warranty of the car +battery is voided in this case since the owner did not respect the rule,because the electric system and battery are not water proof and it say on Tesla official site that warranty is voided if the owner drive in water with Tesla car ( so if the battery need to be replaced that is the easy part but still cost the owner a new battery which is quite few grands and replacing costs are supported entirely by owner since was his fault now the hard part is if the entire electric system on the car need to be replaced too, still because the owners fault it will be not covered by Tesla but it need to be made by Tesla authorized service in order to be recognized and re-introduced on the Tesla up-date program and then the vehicle will get back again on the rest of the initial warranty left, but the man labors hours spend on service and all the new replacement parts and all of that operation costs is fully and entirely supported by the owner again and trust me that will cost allot to change the entire electric system on the car because owner stupidly did not care and drive the car thru water on it's own risk.
Pop Laurentiu Most of what you said falls under, "damages [from misuse]are not covered" And where did you find this info about being unable to update the car or voiding the car/battery warranty? I don't see it in the warranty and can't find it in an official Tesla statement. Are you referring to their forum?
Tesla Official - Users manual of each specific model.. (Warranty of vehicle, Warranty of Battery pack) + I knew 2 real cases when owners did it, one of them the car was with very low mileage almost brand new and to get to work he must drive his car thru a flooded section of a road under a bridge that got flooded during a heavy rain but that was unfortunately the only way to get on highway in order to get to work daily.. so yeah the car eventually stop worked properly the owner called Tesla center and from there you must choose one of 2 options: expensive repairs fully supported by the owner or salvage yards for parts..
*"Tesla Official - Users manual of each specific model.. (Warranty of vehicle, Warranty of Battery pack)"* ~Pop Laurentiu~ I just looked at the European and US Owner's Manual of the Model S. I don't see any mention of any of the claims you've made. Could you provide a link and the page number where this information is? *" I knew 2 real cases when owners did it"* AGAIN, everything he experienced falls under "damages from misuse are not covered." Not covering certain circumstances on a warranty and voiding a warranty for frivolous reasons are not the same thing. If you drive an ICE car in water and you blow a hole in your engine, Ford, Toyota, Honda, VW, Jaguar etc. aren't going to replace your engine for free. ie. That's not *covered* by the warranty. That's not the same as Ford, Toyota etc... refusing to fix manufacturer defects just because you drove through a big puddle that caused zero damage. And your claim that Tesla won't allow owners to update their car just because they drove through water is bizarre. That may be the case for a car with a salvage title, but that's a whole different situation.
Actually he sort of insulted potential customers because he said that those are same people who buy teslas; pretenders and trend clowns now have an option. But, Jag did not realize that they are competing with a religion. No normal, sane person buys a tesla, so Jag will have to try to reach different customers, those who like real cars and trucks. That will be hard because no real man buys an electric car.
Reasons to buy I pace over model x: 1: Slower 0-60 (Then P100D) 2: Lower top speed (Then any S X or 3) 3: Hardly cheaper (Then a model S or X) 4: Less efficient (90KW battery has the same range as the model X with a 75KW battery) 5: Less Horsepower (394 vs 518 in a model x 75D base model) 6: Smaller Trunk and Frunk 7 Slower charging (40min to 80% vs 30 min to 80%)
Model X is an insanely bigger car. Better to compare the Jaguar to a Model S or even a Model 3. The base Model S 75D is faster and Model 3 AWD will be faster too, and a lot cheaper. By the way, Tesla already has 10,000 supercharger stalls worldwide. Useful when charging the car, which you will have to do on long trips.
I hate those massive moon/sunroofs..... 1 T-Rex attack and your screwed!!! But seriously in the event of a roll over that glass will break and whatever debris /rocks/ obstacles will come right into the vehicle. I'd prefer to have a good steel roof.
That is an optional feature and is not glass is a clear polycarbonate-reinforced-plastic something used in aviation purposes because it's light material and much more tough than glass..
No comments made about the computer side... One of the most important components of vehicles of the (not too distant) future will be their capacity to adapt to changes in autonomous driving. These things are more like computers on wheels than motor vehicles. Redundancy in computer tech is rapid. Will Jag have systems that can keep abreast of computer tech advances?
Great review of a cool new car! Please tell me there will be a much smaller wheel option. Those 22s would not last 6 months driving across the craters we have here in Pennsylvania
Its quite a bit less money than the Tesla , its got a REALLY NICE interior , it is very good looking and its fun to drive ... Why would you buy a screen on wheels for 50% more money that cant off road?
Please spec which Tesla you are talking about, realistically there 3 versions of each of the three Tesla models. The model 3 performance model doesn't go off-road, but it is cheaper and does 0-60 in about 3.2 seconds. If you are a small business owner in the United States the effective cost of the Tesla Model X extended range is the same as the iPace because the Model X with gets an extra $22k in tax savings because of a quirk in the US tax law and vehicle weight. (The Model X is heavy enough it counts as a commercial truck according to the tax code instead of a passenger vehicle, and has much higher tax allowances for businesses that purchase it)
It doesn’t compete with the model X because: -no Supercharging network -no updates to the infotainment -no updates to the car itself (good luck with recalls) -it’s not a seven seater (model Y will have a more similar size) -it doesn’t feature autopilot (currently not great, but UPDATES) -Jaguar makes the ipace for money, not the world -Jaguar just copies Tesla, resulting in them being a few YEARS behind -Jaguar has to buy batteries from Panasonic at massive markups, resulting in higher prices -Do you really want fake engine noises and a massive grill? -The car really isn’t very efficient (the model 3 with a 75KWH battery can go farther, at a lower price. Oh, and how do you buy the ipace? You go to a crappy little dealer that profits on making the car more expensive for you to buy. In addition to this, they wouldn’t want to sell the ipace because it also profits on overpriced repairs. So, there are 2 possibilities: the first is that you can buy the ipace BECAUSE it is terribly un reliable, or you CAN’T buy it because it is too reliable. I’ll stick with a model Y.
Yeah, their next vehicle, right before they start selling space ships. Listen mate. You can't stick to something that doesn't exist. You can wait for it though.
thanks guys.. (well.. uhm.. i did a short check on they official site, i was curious to see that Y model, but they do not say anything about that and do not have any concept.. yet maybe it will appear a picture or a draw sketch latter) but anyway did Elon publicly announced it, or something how do you guys know about it already ?
- CCS network instead. (~ 8,000 chargers worldwide, including 350kW, 175kW and 150kW per car) - Yes, it has OTA updates. - Like the Teslas, it has adaptive cruise, lane sensing, and lane-keeping assist with self-steer, with sensing by cameras and radar. - Jaguar is using their own money to build it, not other people's money. Tesla plans to be making money later this year. (It had hoped to be making money already, but the Model 3 production didn't allow that, so they are down about $5billion US currently) - If Jag just copied Tesla, they'd be using different batteries, different motors, and we wouldn;t have lots of people saying "You can't compare it to an S/X/3 - it's too different!" - The Teslas don't have officially certified WLTP ranges yet, and the i-Pace doesn't have an officially-certified EPA range yet. It's hard to compare the efficiencies atm. - some people have already bought their i-Pace. - I expect the Model Y won't make it to US customers before 2021, and to European markets in RHD before 2024. Some people might be on their third i-Pace by then.
At the end of the day, you could have a Tesla look alike with everything exactly as Tesla does and for half the price, but without access to the supercharge network nothing competes with Tesla.
i was just sitting here saying how much i loved the Jaguar but there is really no charging structure for it. yeah there is chargers all over the place but no GPS that will route you to them without you having to actually look for it like the tesla. im a huge tesla fan but just based on the supercharger network i think the tesla takes the win. also the tesla model x can seat seven and i have a family of 6. i have to also go where the room is.
I've been saying for years that electric is the future of off-roading. Instant torque so you don't need low range. Dual motors so you don't need a transfer case. Quiet operation is another bonus when off-road. I guess the next move is for their cousin Land Rover to adopt some or most of the drivetrain. This could be the first reliable Jaguar and later the first reliable Land Rover. Who'd have thunk it!
Considering that the F-Pace and E-Pace share some of Land Rover's offroading technology, I'm sure there's bound to be an all-electric Land Rover in the pipeline.
My XKRs and current F-Type have been reliable - you're living in the past if you think Jags aren't reliable. But hey, miss out on great cars if you want to.
Only downside of electric is if you run out of charge in the middle of nowhere it's not as easy as having a jerrycan of fuel in the back, but then again I've driven my FWD car on trails similar to a lot of the off road course they were using in the video without problems, so I'll need to see a proper test (Once they ditch the ridiculous 22's and put proper tyres on) before it qualifies as anything more than a jacked up car. With no air intake apart from for the passenger vents, I wonder what the fording depth on it is.
So, what, audi probably sell 40k of the r7 or r8. It just looks like a nice evening that when you order it you will get it as compared to Tesla. And I like the tesla.
Rick James ... Waymo has already booked 20,000 jaguar I pace . So they are likely to surpass the Tesla limit since Jaguar doesn't face demand and supply dilemma like Tesla.
Just technicality dude, it is really a bad leprechaun joke ( a dig on his stature, then again the American is probably a Giant),, accent , no accent, British Irish,etc, still to the untrained ear like me it does not matter, I just found humor on all things. but if you want to be make things serious that is your prerogative..........
Nice car, I heard Benz, I heard Tesla or Nissan, and the plugin-hybrid of Toyota such as Prius plugin-hybrid or Honda's Clarity. But never think about Jaguar would have one all-electric, and could go all-place
Jaguar showed a concept all electric car years using a motor for each wheel (Which is a much better way to do things than the brake assisted 'torque vectoring' available in just about all cars with electronic stability control) before Tesla even existed. At the time Jaguar's reliability and cost of ownership was so bad it makes current Teslas look good though. Jaguar seem to have got somewhat better since Ford explained what quality control meant while they owned them. Still astronomical money for what looks like very little interior space compared to my Skoda estate.
I still don't get the obsession with top speed, especially in a crossover or SUV. The VW Tiguan 2.0 TSI has a top speed of 130 mph, so the I-Pace is not that far off.
124mph top speeed is somewhat irrelevant fora nelectric car. Jag have restricted the top speed to help preserve range. MotorTrend took it up to 124mph on the Autobahn, and used 6 miles of range just going from 80mph to 124pmh.
ajlaurenjunjo You probably can’t either. I was complaining about one thing. I think the car isn’t that bad. It’s a good car. I just really hate artificial noises...
ajlaurenjunjo Hey here's an idea, why don't you shut the fuk up until you have something constructive to say instead of insulting someone you don't know.
How much is the preference for the F-type over the i-Pace about familiarity with traditional sports coupes? I'd be curious. I've noticed that a lot of reviewers seem to have an almost nostalgic preference for "old school" autos, i.e. traditionally gasoline powered v8 sounding engines and the like. Wonder if that means newer cars like EVs and turbo 4s get a bit unfairly maligned.
Is it better well that's subjective. However I can tell you this, it will be seen as the better buy for many in the market for an electric crossover. Now before I go further, let's get one thing out of the way. This market for an all electric vehicle is a niche, and will likely not be the mainstream power train. I say this because while media attention is all eyes on electric. I see Diesel and Gasoline improving everyday in terms of performance and cleanliness. So what does this mean? It means I see the power train as part of the puzzle for tomorrow's market. Which means the need for a supercharger network isn't necessary for sales. People would buy according to their needs, and a luxury car that can drive around town. Then take you to the airport when you leave town. Will work well for many urban dwellers. Now for acceleration and top speed, this is not a hypercar. Chances are most people aren't going to see this as a deal breaker. What they will see as one, is how impracticable the Tesla is. Everything is run by touch screen like an I-phone. Mean-while Jaguar mixes analog and digital controls. Resulting in a more user friendly interface. Tesla is also known for having many mechanical and structural flaws. Jaguar while not perfect, has no where near the quality issues reported with Tesla. Don't take my word for it? Then Consumer Reports will tell you all about it. Tesla under Musk has relied on media hype. He has marketed his brand well, but as more companies fill in the EV market. His company is going to face a lot of trouble. Sound familiar? Well, this scenario is unfolding right now with diesel's. Volkswagen screwed up, now they are out of the game as cleaner products fill the market. In comparison, I would say the I-pace is a win for the consumer. Plus I could go into detail about how much better built the power train is compared to the Tesla. Jaguar did their homework, and have put out a very capable vehicle. Tesla has very defensive fans, but I think this car is the clear winner.
ah portugal... i was wondering were you were driving. i saw a dutch license plate but that scenery cannot be the netherlands. just to dry and red/yellow
So why didn't you tell people there are no high speed chargers for this vehicle in North America that will actually let you travel long distance in a timely fashion????? The Ipace currently can only charge at a max rate of 50 kw. Sure, it may someday charge at a max rate of 100 kw, if they actually build faster chargers. Tesla is charging at a max rate of 120 kw TODAY. So let's put that into perspective. You will take almost three times a long to charge your Ipace than a Tesla. Oh and it has shorter range between charges as well. Otherwise, it's a great car Im sure. Though Im not sure why it's limited to 124mph. That seems odd when a Tesla will do 130 on the base Model 3 and the S and X are governed to 155mph. I don't really care about the top speed, but unless you can charge quickly on a road trip, the car is useless to me. Im sure it's fine for most people though.
Nice that someone actually mentioned a real and practical difference between the electric vehicles. This is Tesla's edge over all other car manufacturers for at least the next 3 years. As well, I find it interesting that I haven't heard any comparisons to the manufacturer's ICE versions in any i-pace review. I think this is where prospective buyers will be making a shift.
There are 350kW-per car and 150kW-per-car chargers live in the USA TODAY. The key question is, how fast will the i-Pace charge from them. When it uses a 50kW charger, it supposedly charges at the full 50kW all the way to 80%.. I'm looking forward to seeing the charge taper graphs once they are available.
In Europe, there is a corridor from Berlin to Munich of 350kW chargers. In the USA, ElectrifyAmerica has a map of their live locations at electrifyamerica.com, under the locations tab. When last I checked, a new location was going live about once a week, with about a dozen 350kW chargers and a dozen 150kW chargers live, spread over 4 locations.
They have 4 locations up and running at this time. One is Mass, two in VA and one in Mississippi. So yeah, that's currently useless. Hopefully there ambition is real.
How lucky you are to come to Portugal to test a Jaguar! Crossing the Atlantic just to test it :-) Jaguar is making a good marketing on uncle sam’s land! Eheh I wish I could do the same test that you guys did..
These guys are quoting Jaguar's figure for realistic range "when driven like a Jag", and others are quoting the WLTP-certified range. There is no official EPA-certified range for the Jag yet.
Real electric cars are coming now... MB GLE, I-pace, IX-3, etc.. etc!! Bye, Bye Tesla! These cars are less expensive and more capable than you... Sorry geek's car...
That road was ten times better than the gravel road I drive every day at home and I do it in a Toyota Echo. Still a nice car but not off road by any means, maybe off bitumen is ok. I would like to see it driven hard around the track until flat to see how it handles the rapid discharge.
I'm not a fan of the panoramic roof but geez, does this thing look good to my eyes. I would have one in a heartbeat just to be done with all the typical maintenance crap with both our other vehicles.
Now the only thing jaguar has left to do is set up charging stations, just like Tesla Superchargers. I love the car so much, can’t wait to see it in person.
The car is fine but there is no charger that can charge it in 40 minutes. Maybe Jaguar should integrate itself to the Tesla Supercharger network? Tesla says they are allowing other companies. Or maybe they can just make their own...
In the US Electrify America has a number of 150KW and 350KW stations that can certainly max out the I-pace capabilities. By the end of next summer Electrify America will have nearly 2000 stations operational. In Europe there are a number of 100KW and now depending on country 350KW stations. So I'm not sure why Jaguar would spend billions to join the slower supercharger network.
Electrify America is only one of many 3rd parties. Why would Jaguar spend billions on a network that in many places of the world where the I-pace is sold won't benefit them.
Because these are the things that entertain, how can you not mention such a cool fact? I'm sorry but this channel is absolutely terrible. Literally the ONLY reason I'm still subscribed is because by some miracle, these guys get there hands on new products before anyone else and I cannot understand why. There are many channels far better than this. Its incredibly frustrating to see people with potential put out poor content.
It isn't really a big deal. Lots of super and hypercars drive in this track. You make it sound like those 3 are the most important cars ever made. And this is a more information than entertainment channel.
If this iPace can do off-road like it shows with 20'' inch rims with summer / street tires i imagine a 17-18'' inch rim with All Terrain muddy grapplers BF-Goodrich will help do so much better off-road with this electric SUV ! And damn considering Tesla will void warranty of the vehicle if are driven off-road this iPace Jag could be a real stealing bargain.. ;0)
The iPace is a direct competitor with the not yet shipping midrange model Y. So, your choices are to wait for a model Y or buy an iPace today. If you want a Minivan/large SUV type car the X is a vastly better choice, if you want a full-sized sedan the S is a better choice. If you want a sports car, the 3 is a much better choice. If you want a small luxury crossover the iPace the only shipping option. And it seems like a reasonable enough option. It will be interesting to see how the model Y compares against it.
I'd easily take it over Tesla for one reason - interior quality. I know Jag isn't known for their reliability but it won't be worse than Tesla, interior trim won't fall apart because because quality control is too expensive and they need to save money.
For daily driving the L2 changing and range on the Jag are totally fine. But only Teslas can use their Superchargers, which makes a huge difference in how practical it is for road trips.
Roman, how tall are you? I am 6' 4", and I am curious about that back-seat headroom and legroom. On paper, the back-seat legroom of the I-Pace is bafflingly disappointing to me, at only 35". This is less than the stated rear legroom of the Tesla Model 3 (35.2") and Range Rover Evoque (36.4"), and way less than the Honda CR-V (40.4"). With Jaguar's talk about having been able to move the passenger cabin forward, and the rear wheels back, I expected a bit more space in the back. You *looked* like you had a fair amount of space, but without knowing how tall you are, it's hard to figure out what that means to me.
I pinged TFLCar.com and Mike replied that Roman is about 6' 2", so at 6' 4", the back seat of the I-Pace would probably be somewhat of a tight fit for me, if someone similarly tall was in front - both in legroom and headroom. Still, it's probably do-able.
In spanish that pronunciation will be Yaguar. Jaguar in México will sound something like Xaguar. :) Again...another good video-adventure. I really like it
Dont know how good it is yet but it's definitely stunning. Easily beat Tesla in terms of styling. And it looks like a car. The interior still has some of the traditional elements like nobs, and so on.
Laughable, you can tell they are trying to sell the jag, even though it fails in all categories against Tesla. Including long road trips and charging destinations. Just randomly found this video. Lost my rapport, basically sell outs. Tesla brand is larger than jag, get used to it
I like it! Back in the 80's I had a couple of Jaguars. Electric cars are coming. I thought the Tesla sounded nice but the horror stories you hear about how people are treated after the warrant was up is reason enough to not own one.
Ive been following all UA-cam videos regarding the Ipace these days (obviously as I ordered one) but nothing news comes on other than the “Portugal” reviews showing more or less the same material. A little too late for my opinion, but as I’m hyper for news i can deal with this..
I dont like Tesla's cause they are way to sparce inside. I like this cause its more traditional yet futuristic. Definitely my cup of tea. I wish they would do a proper electric sports car.
@2:30 Just a wee reminder - battery size is kilowatt-hours, not kilowatts.
Kilowatts is how fast the tap runs; kilowatt hours is how big the bathtub is.
Thanks for the heads-up
Anytime - it's the sort of minor slip that can get the EV fanatics to start frothing at the mouth.
Another analogy, kilowatts is horsepower, kilowatt-hours is gallons.
It doesn't only compete against Tesla but it also goes against the German luxury SUV's. A BMW X series with this much acceleration would cost over $80,000. Although it would still beat the Jag in it's top speed.
I've always loved the way jags looked but this one might be the longest running jaguars without repairs ever made lol
Model X warranty does not become void if you drive it off-road. The vehicle is advertised as having this capability. Please read the owners manual before providing incorrect information to your viewers.
To do off-road (Elon do not recommend it, then probably Tesla X (or the Y) would need something like this :ua-cam.com/video/HB-3m6mrkP4/v-deo.html
Meanwhile everyone in the comments section of the model X off road video claims that it *does* void the warranty.
@@poplaurentiu4148 he dose not recommend it because it can puncture the battery.
Go re-read the manual published at date of post
If I had $80k I’d get the Jag. But I don’t so I’ll just watch your vids. 😁
Colorado Biking how much are the dealerships going to upcharge the price to get a profit though
Those are some serious ultra-low profile off-road tires
But i'm sure some mixed all-terrain BF Goodrich could be fitted for more off-road grip when the owner want to go fishing, kayak, beach or in winter up in the mountains for ski.. ;0)
Or else some serious climbing for a vehicle on ultra-low profile road tyres.
You can option 17s which give it more sidewall than a standard pickup
Not sure if this is blowing smoke up Jaguar's arse, you really dislike Tesla, or you're just clickbaiting (probably some of each), but let's check some of those facts. I'll use the Model S 75D because it's closest in price to the i-Pace, and therefore a more "fair" comparison than the P100D.
* Top speed: 124MPH - Model S and X have a top speed of 155MPH, even the Model 3 has a top speed of 140MPH
* 0-60 in 4.5sec - Base Model S 75D does 0-60 in 4.2 sec. (In fairness, that is quicker than the base Model X at 4.9sec, but you keep comparing it to the Model S, not the X)
* 394HP/512LbFt torque - 75D is 518HP, 485LbFt.
* 1000A output, 450A regen: These numbers are meaningless w/o knowing the voltage of the battery. (These things are properly measured in kWh.) But the HP/torque numbers-and corresponding 0-60 time-are lower than the base 75D, so the kWh output will be higher on the Tesla unless the Jag is hugely inefficient. (Why even quote these numbers?)
* AWD: of course, all Model S and Model X are AWD, too.
* 40 minute to get 80% charge: Same as Tesla, except where are you actually going to find a DC fast charger to plug into, at least in the US? Tesla's Supercharger network is the only reliable fast charging network around.
The fair points:
* It will go on the track. (But with a top speed of 124MPH? Seriously?!? Note that the Model 3 does better on the track than the S & X, and almost certainly will do better than the i-Pace, too.)
* It's "approved" for off-road. Lots of Tesla owners have taken their vehicles on dirt roads, I haven't heard one instance of warranty coverage being denied. But it *IS* still listed as a deal-breaker in Tesla's warranty, which is lame.
* Rear controls for climate.
Pretty much everything else is a matter of personal preference.
The specs on the i-Pace are closest to the non-performance AWD Model 3 (which will be about $10K less, but is a completely different type of vehicle).
Don't get me wrong, I think it's a great entry in the EV space, and people looking at a base Model X will probably seriously look at the i-Pace, too. (More importantly, people looking at other ICE mid-side luxury SUVs should look at this!)
I just hope you can turn off the insipid fake engine noise.
M Scott , thank you for taking the time to make this comment. Solid.
M scott.. ok man i just want to reply to you (not hate or anything) just hear me a bit : do any Tesla have a pre-heated battery pack ? those are also sealed water-proof ? why? will you ask me but this is very important specially for European climate because the pre-heated battery feature help the car in winter under cold freezing temperatures, some people from Norway, Sweeden, Finland owners of Tesla posted clips on UA-cam with S and X models stuck to wait for the tow truck on the side of the roads in heavy cold winters because the battery pack is not pre-heated or heated in any way at all during the cold winter period, so the battery would drained (empty faster) to try focus to use all the energy for the propulsion, not to mention the struggle for other heat options like defrosted windscreen, heat blowers in the cabin and also for the electronics in the car.. and because the battery pack is not sealed properly since many different Tesla models start to be seen more often to Co-Parts junkyards because battery pack is not sealed properly water flooded inside the battery pack get a short cut which affect the entire electric system in the car and that will cost allot to be replaced. Tesla won't do it usually in such cases the owners calls they detect the issue release documentation and delete the car from up-date program that means the car can be scrapped destroyed or by the opportunist junkers used it to sell under auctions for parts (if Tesla would try to fix it.. they would charge you expensive amount money see on youtube - 'rich rebuilds channel' because on such cases it need to be replace entire electric circuits and all affected electrical components systems + a new battery pack).. so anyway is also pretty annoying each time when you want to do something quick in Tesla you must look at the stupid big screen to search in the many different options adjustments to find certain settings, that should be no problem in the i-pace since it have 3 smaller screens very easy to be read and some simple to use controls common placed for natural and simplistic use, overall i-pace is more balanced is not small like Tesla 3, it is not lower like S and can do a bit off-road but is not as big expensive as some X models.. is kinda in the middle, incorporate many cool stuff in a decent size vehicle.. regarding charging points you right but remember that for Tesla 3 you do not have free supercharging so, anyway in US Tesla obviously rules but across Europe i think this i-pace is worth to be considered since many auto brands started from last year (after the diesel-gate scandal) joined forces in partnership to conceive a form to support building charging points stations for EV vehicles with a certain support from all-EU governments of the countries of Europe that means each country is required by EU committee to help build strategical placed in all key points for each country a certain amount of charging stations depending how big each country is also depending of relief and the available infrastructure, in such way so that allow EV cars owners to travel from West to East of Europe without any worry that can not find charging stations.. (now i will tell you that i live in Croatia and i think it was in 2009-2010 a man from Holland (i think it was a doctor ..) did get a Tesla Roadster first model and i think he was on holiday or something but it actually did that kind of journey with his Tesla Roadster, he went from Holland -Germany-Austria-Slovenia-Croatia-Montenegro-Serbia-Bulgaria-Turkey and then to Cyprus island and back i know since he returned back and i met him on both ways he stopped a day in Croatia), but remember back then Tesla didn't have to many superchargers across all Europe just few on West but so he did it..) hey man, look this is my opinion if you happen to be an Tesla owner in USA be happy with your car.. here in Europe to put now an deposit and order for a Tesla 3 can take more than 1,5 years if not more to actually get the car and with no financial support from govern for any Tesla products is really hard to reach to them here in Europe, a Jaguar i-Pace in basic version cost in my country 65.000 euro but with govern support for clean green vehicles, if you also destroy an old car for example you get a discount voucher that is a cut off from the overall price, also get a start bonus insurance for registering a new clean vehicle and other bonuses deductions the i-Pace price dropped to 46,500 euro and wait no more than 2 months to get the car.. (and that is a price and a time delivery i can actually live with) so now i hope you see with different eyes based on these arguments, why for different parts of this world this new electric vehicle can be better than Tesla. ;0)
Well, you bring up points that mostly weren't addressed in this review, which was what I was responding to. But I'm happy to address your points, too.
Yes, Teslas have battery heaters, and from the videos I've seen, the i-Pace works pretty much the same way as Teslas have for at least the last 6 months. (Thanks to a software update last winter.) When you pre-condition the cabin (i.e., turning on the heat from the app), it will also warm the battery if it's very cold. It won't, however, warm the battery if the car is not plugged in and the battery is below a certain SOC (20% maybe?). After all, it doesn't do you a lot of good to burn the rest of your battery heating it. I have seen nothing that suggests Jaguar has done a better job at managing battery temperature than Tesla does. (And there is even a dedicated battery pre-heat feature on the P100D but that's for getting the most power out of the battery for launching, not for cold-weather.)
I don't know exactly how well sealed Tesla's batteries are, but they certainly aren't "unsealed." There are some pretty impressive videos of Teslas driving through deep water, just search "tesla driving through water" on UA-cam. I honestly don't know how the two compare.
Regarding the touch screen, I think that's a matter of personal taste. I think Tesla has done a great job of making the stuff you need while driving readily available. But it can be annoying to use a touch screen while driving on a bumpy road, so I get that physical buttons might be preferred by some.
As for charging infrastructure, non-Tesla charging stations are clearly being built in Europe much faster than they are in the US, so that will make less of a difference to potential EV purchasers in Europe than it will in the US. But one of the biggest areas of push-back from people not already used to an EV is the charging time and ease of locating charging while traveling long distances. Early adopters (like your Roaster owner example) will deal with the extra hassle because it's part of being a trailblazer. But the mass market certainly won't. The USA is also a lot larger that Europe geographically, and has very large, rural areas with limited infrastructure that won't see significant public charging for the better part of a decade. (A town with only one gas station is not likely to see a fast charging station anytime soon. But unlike in Europe, small towns in the US west are often 40+ miles apart, with nothing but farmland in between. )
I agree that the i-Pace is a very different vehicle than any that Tesla currently offers. I was calling out the reviewers for their Tesla comparisons, which were questionable at best. I'm not dis'ing the i-Pace at all (other than the fake engine sounds ;-). I think it's a promising new EV that fits in between the Model 3 and Model S/X. I'm sure Jaguar will sell all they can make. I am not trying to say that the i-Pace is a bad EV, or even that Teslas are better. It was the premise of this review that was trying to make some dubious points so they could put "Tesla" in the title and get a lot more clicks. But it's pretty obvious that Jaguar has a great vehicle here, and I'm very pleased for that. Personally, I'd still buy a Tesla because I live in the US and that charging network matters, and I love the clutter (button)-free interior. The price difference between the i-Pace and Model S 75D is not going to be a significant factor for people who can afford these cars, so I think these cars' features will drive their purchasing decisions. I hope that lots of people pick the i-Pace, it seems like worthy vehicle. (I also hope Porsche sells a ton of Taycans, another very promising new EV.)
i was responded to you since you did pointed some strong facts and because i 'm in the interest to purchase such vehicle in near future but i'm not in urgent need since now is the re-birth of EV sector many other brands started to show new ideas, new concepts and for instance i also seen the latest i.D. concepts from Volkswagen since they learn a harsh lesson and want to re-gain the brand image after massive diesel-gate scandal.. anyway interest on such cars is still rising so i think this sector will grow quick in 1-2 year top.. so i will check them out prospecting the best convenient deal to replace my wife car.. so i just stated what facts i hear about so far and i hope to see better stuff, attractive offers and more diverse products, you know the market is big, so the offer should fit each budget.. i guess we will find out latter what model will really worth by the volumes of the sells too.. ;0)
The artificial engine noise only defaults to 'on' in Dynamic mode, and can be switched off even in Dynamic mode.
Supposedly the 200kmh/124mph top speed is electronically limited, down from 250kmh/155mph, due to the drop in range at high velocities. Personally, I seldom go on roads with a limit higher than 124mph - on British roads, if you are caught at 100mph or faster, you instantly lose your driving licence. Where the speed limits are higher, range is teh probem. The big-battery Model X uses 390 Watts/mi at an average of 48mph. I do not know how much higher the consumption is above 1204mph - but it will be a lot.
About chargers, a couple of months ago, there were no CCS public chargers in the USA above 75kW (although over 1,100 locations had 50kW CCS rapid chargers).
Today, there are a dozen 350kW chargers, and another dozen 150kW chargers, live in the US. The number is small now, but the roll-out has begun, and will accelerate. And, it's worth noting, that all of these chargers are faster than the fastest-available Superchargers. And Superchargers themselves only produce their peak speed if you get two stalls all to yourself.
Test drove Jaguar today and I was impressed. Beautiful dashboard and interior. Apple Carplay. It has a
soul, unlike Tesla. But no sunroof, no spare tire, no runflat tire.
I hated Tesla 3's aggressive regenerative braking (felt like I slammed on the brakes), plain dashboard, and
poor ergonomics screen.
Both EVs have great acceleration but ride comfort was much stiffer (hard) compared to luxury sedan
combustion engines from Mercedes and Lexus.
The i-Pace is a superb looking car. However I can drive from my house in Manchester to my parents in Portugal seamlessly in my Model S because of the 120 kW Supercharger network. It's not really any slower than doing it in a petrol car. Until they get a 100 kW + powered CCS charging network in place which is expansive as the Tesla one you're going to have to accept some compromise, believe me waiting 2+ hours for completely flat car to charge of a 50 kW is an inconvenience.
A brit trying to say aluminum is not right. He should stick with aluminium as it is correct
The rear end reminds me a bit of the first generation Acura Integra...but yeah I like it.
Been subscribed to u guys since 2014. Always check ur vids before me and my fam get a car. Love u guys. Stay healthy ❤️
I'm reminded when Bjorn tried to off road his Model X. Not only things broke, but Tesla bent him over backwards to fix it.
Nice job Jaguar.
Well, he drove in the worst possible way and fell through ice.
So the underfloor battery compartment is water proof? Who knew :-/
alliejr ...good point, We all know that water and electricity don't mix.
i also read on official Jaguar site that on cold winters (low temperature) the i-Pace battery pack is pre-heated before the car actually can be operated, that is very good news a Tesla do not have that (not even as optional feature) as i watched many owners from Norway who brought S and X and complained this because they got stuck because the battery worked harder and drained quicker in freezing cold temperatures, this feature also keep the life of battery pack longer than without it.. so all such small facts counts when it's time to change the normal vehicle to swap it to an full EV..
Yes, the Jag battery pack survives temps of -40F/-40C, and can be charged in temperatures as low as -32C. It also will use mains power to bring the pack up to operating temperature.
l wouldn't take the risk, that much power being around water is not a good idea even if the entire pack is forged from silicone.
I like the F Type, but I'm a family man with kids, so for practical reasons, I'll take the I-Pace (which I think it's prettier than Tesla Model X)
Jorge Tamacas ... Now you are gonna get unwanted attention on road
Just FYI, the i-Pace is WAY smaller than Model X and has totally different proportions. I understand that the two are compared due to all-electric-ness, but size wise, this is like comparing a Subaru XV Crosstrek with an Audi Q7. Also, there are a lot of reasons, but I'd go for the Tesla for the sake of the Supercharger network alone. I want to be able to travel anywhere in my SUV. Excited to see the i-Pace hit the streets though!
J C Mmmm, you have a point on that. I want a good range of charge too. Thanks for the opinion
Wait for the Tesla model Y, enough time until it comes out to save up money for it and it has the Tesla supercharger network behind it
Jorge Tamacas .. Jaguar gives you a 5 year or 60,000 miles of warranty and going offroad and wading don't void it's warrenty .Tesl has a half baked Autopilot and wading will void it's warrenty plus it has panel gaps so Jaguar is a better option.
9:10 the hardest part of driving fast is not changing gears but, by far, steering, braking (especially with no abs) and acceleration.
There are a lot of comments about Jaguar reliability. Keep up people! Jaguar have sorted their issues out a long time ago. They do very well in customer surveys like JD Power etc. often beating the German manufacturers.
I was not a Jaguar fan until they launched the XF, I’m currently on my second one and love it. A very reliable car.
As much as people deride Jaguar for the time they were owned by Ford, the reliability improved greatly. Have had 0 issues with my 2007 X-Type other than wear and tear items and annual servicing.
Kudos to the guy who said application instead of app!!
How come only Roman on the euro trips ? Rather see Andre and Nathan myself !
Looks incredible. That is a head turner for sure!
Ok.. I'll ask the million dollar question.. is it reliable in the long run🤔🤔🤔🤔
I'm saying no. But ev-tech is improving and I only have gripes on the interior electronics. I guess, you should just stick onto Toyota/Lexus Hybrid vehicles until Toyota makes an all electric suv or crossover.
No which is why most will be leased out the door. Smashing gorgeous vehicle none the less.
"Is reliable in the long run?" It has to be better than the likes of Teslas...Model S owners with mileage past 75K were having 80% of those vehicles having had entire powertrains replaced, at least once...some multiple times. So far those were done within warranty limits. Somewhere in a warehouse in Tesla-land, there are thousands of motors & powertrains.....maybe they were "rebuilt", & carted off to the factory...& put into "new" ones...ya' never know?
John LeGresley I agree
Well, are internal combustion engined-cars (ICEs) reliable in the long run?
These cars have fewer moving parts, less of the car needs routine servicing.
Things like the suspension and the driveshaft gaiters will be just like an ICE - but the drivetrain will need radically less routine servicing - e.g. no more needing a new cambelt every 5 years. Basically engine and gearbox issues have gone, and motor, control electronics and battery pack is likely to be more reliable than an engine, gearbox and its control electronics.
It will be a great car. All they need to do is set up a nation wide charging infrastructure.
That blue on the I-Pace is stunning!
If I had a choice I would buy the ipace. not bc it's cheaper, it just look more luxurious and has more capabilities.
eatadickorsomeum I'd buy it because it looks normal, inside and out. I like the whole idea of electric vehicles but I absolutely hate the dashboard in all the Teslas. Yup, I'm simple. I just don't see the point of having a giant screen to have to dick around with to do even the simplest things. Going into the menu to open the glove box? What a clusterfuck!
And it doesn't look like someone threw it together in their garage ;-)
@@scottfurlong5475Have you driven it yet, or are you assuming stuff without actually experiencing it? I am surprised you have a cell phone since it doesn't look "traditional"...Smh.
90 kWh battery not 90 kW!
kWh = kilo-What's from those who don't understand EV's . :)
Peter L kWh is a measure of energy like the capacity of a fuel tank. kW is power just like hp.
*kW is power not kWh
batdowg my mistake. Didn't see that h there. Thanks for pointing that out.
Guys... It was humor; not meant to be taken seriously.
Concerning the range and the battery. So a Model S will give you significantly more range on a 100D for more money. Shocking! What were you expecting? How about comparing it to a 75D which will give you 259 miles for $74'500?
Don’t forget the network of superchargers right on the regular interstate that would use normally. And the network is so big and reliable that you could go coast to coast. Even into Mexico and Canada.
Yes, I think the iPace only gets 240 miles for $70,000 even though the battery is much larger than the Tesla S 75D.
I-pace has a flawed consumption vs the Tesla super efficient engine. until Jaguar fix this - It's no match for a Tesla 75D on distance.
@@greennewdeal5539Nobody is gonna sell it for only 70k. They are gonna load it up on options at the dealer. Don't kid yourself about that.
less expensive and has real off road capability, nice
ah, Dirt Road, Water Forging capable then, you are brighter than me, I'll send you a medal if I can...
I think there are ups and downs vs Tesla. Ups I would give it build & interior quality but downs would be charging infrastructure & Autopilot.
We hear a lot about them AutoPilot :D Crash and Burn babeeee !!
For some reason i can not post the link in here but i will say this if off-road is needed Delta wheels can help they did an promotional clip here on youtube called:
"Tesla X fitted with mudd-terrain tires and Delta -rims" i think it would help in case of this i-Pace Jaguar too.. ;0)
And it doesn't void the warranty. That's a strong buying point
What happens when these cars with full ceiling sunroof flip over in an accident? Will the glass shatter?
These are really fantastic cars, and it's electric! win, win jaguar
abbaby555 ...electric vehicles are COAL BURNING VEHICLES... please do the research. If you’re goal is to save the planet in style...not that it’s necessary... this vehicle won’t do it. Have a good day.
Melon Rain Every study so far says that even charging with electricity from 100% coal has a better life cycle outcome.
But electricity networks get greener by the day, so go figure. Can gasoline get greener by the day?
Diego Matter ...catalytic converters, O2 sensors, detergent gasoline....so yeah. Oh wait there’s vvt , variables displacement, twin turbo set ups. Get the picture? Electric vehicles are the answer to nothing but an individuals own eccentric self. Have a nice day.
Ok Melon Brain. have a nice life
Melon Rain The electrical grid here in these parts are fed by a hydroelectric Dam, not coal. This is the case with many areas around the world, not to mention the wind turbines here and all over the world, so how is it that you are labeling all electric cars as 'coal burners'? Clearly you are the one not doing your research. Hate electric vehicles if you want but try not to make a complete twit out if yourself.
Model X is a 7 passenger vehicle. So is the Model S with the third row jump seat. It compares with NEITHER. Why are they mentioned?
Great car and fantastic interior. I understand why people are comparing this to the Tesla but all points are moot. The average consumer is still waiting for 350 kWh public chargers and 400 miles of range for 30000 euro.
The average consumer doesn't have $80 000 to spend on a car or the money to keep one of these running in 5 years time when second hand ones will be affordable. One of the reasons Tesla owners haven't class action law suited the company is because most of their customers already own more than one car, so it's no big deal when it dies.
You lost me right there, when you said that driving a Tesla off-road will void your warranty. It is not true. On a Model S, damages produced by off-road use are not covered (this is not the same as voiding). And the Model X (which is being positioned by Jaguar as the direct competitor for the i-Pace) does not have this limitation.
On official Tesla site it say that Tesla will void the warranty of the battery pack if the owner drive thru water and if they suspect that ( of course after an inspection )they will proceed to one of 2 things next depending on the agreement with the owners : erase the vehicle from data base of Tesla that means the vehicle will not receive any more up-dates and warranty of the car +battery is voided in this case since the owner did not respect the rule,because the electric system and battery are not water proof and it say on Tesla official site that warranty is voided if the owner drive in water with Tesla car ( so if the battery need to be replaced that is the easy part but still cost the owner a new battery which is quite few grands and replacing costs are supported entirely by owner since was his fault now the hard part is if the entire electric system on the car need to be replaced too, still because the owners fault it will be not covered by Tesla but it need to be made by Tesla authorized service in order to be recognized and re-introduced on the Tesla up-date program and then the vehicle will get back again on the rest of the initial warranty left, but the man labors hours spend on service and all the new replacement parts and all of that operation costs is fully and entirely supported by the owner again and trust me that will cost allot to change the entire electric system on the car because owner stupidly did not care and drive the car thru water on it's own risk.
Pop Laurentiu
Most of what you said falls under, "damages [from misuse]are not covered"
And where did you find this info about being unable to update the car or voiding the car/battery warranty? I don't see it in the warranty and can't find it in an official Tesla statement. Are you referring to their forum?
those are damages worth tens of thousands of dollars. there is a very good chance that driving off road could get you a salvaged title.
Tesla Official - Users manual of each specific model.. (Warranty of vehicle, Warranty of Battery pack) + I knew 2 real cases when owners did it, one of them the car was with very low mileage almost brand new and to get to work he must drive his car thru a flooded section of a road under a bridge that got flooded during a heavy rain but that was unfortunately the only way to get on highway in order to get to work daily.. so yeah the car eventually stop worked properly the owner called Tesla center and from there you must choose one of 2 options: expensive repairs fully supported by the owner or salvage yards for parts..
*"Tesla Official - Users manual of each specific model.. (Warranty of vehicle, Warranty of Battery pack)"* ~Pop Laurentiu~
I just looked at the European and US Owner's Manual of the Model S. I don't see any mention of any of the claims you've made. Could you provide a link and the page number where this information is?
*" I knew 2 real cases when owners did it"*
AGAIN, everything he experienced falls under "damages from misuse are not covered." Not covering certain circumstances on a warranty and voiding a warranty for frivolous reasons are not the same thing.
If you drive an ICE car in water and you blow a hole in your engine, Ford, Toyota, Honda, VW, Jaguar etc. aren't going to replace your engine for free. ie. That's not *covered* by the warranty. That's not the same as Ford, Toyota etc... refusing to fix manufacturer defects just because you drove through a big puddle that caused zero damage. And your claim that Tesla won't allow owners to update their car just because they drove through water is bizarre. That may be the case for a car with a salvage title, but that's a whole different situation.
Damnit craig from autoguide
Actually he sort of insulted potential customers because he said that those are same people who buy teslas; pretenders and trend clowns now have an option. But, Jag did not realize that they are competing with a religion. No normal, sane person buys a tesla, so Jag will have to try to reach different customers, those who like real cars and trucks. That will be hard because no real man buys an electric car.
Reasons to buy I pace over model x:
1: Slower 0-60 (Then P100D)
2: Lower top speed (Then any S X or 3)
3: Hardly cheaper (Then a model S or X)
4: Less efficient (90KW battery has the same range as the model X with a 75KW battery)
5: Less Horsepower (394 vs 518 in a model x 75D base model)
6: Smaller Trunk and Frunk
7 Slower charging (40min to 80% vs 30 min to 80%)
Model X is an insanely bigger car. Better to compare the Jaguar to a Model S or even a Model 3.
The base Model S 75D is faster and Model 3 AWD will be faster too, and a lot cheaper.
By the way, Tesla already has 10,000 supercharger stalls worldwide. Useful when charging the car, which you will have to do on long trips.
It's a jag, and it's a better car.
Raghunandan Reddy C: It’s not
No super charger network either
Tuan Le this is number zero!
I hate those massive moon/sunroofs..... 1 T-Rex attack and your screwed!!! But seriously in the event of a roll over that glass will break and whatever debris /rocks/ obstacles will come right into the vehicle. I'd prefer to have a good steel roof.
That is an optional feature and is not glass is a clear polycarbonate-reinforced-plastic something used in aviation purposes because it's light material and much more tough than glass..
No comments made about the computer side... One of the most important components of vehicles of the (not too distant) future will be their capacity to adapt to changes in autonomous driving. These things are more like computers on wheels than motor vehicles. Redundancy in computer tech is rapid. Will Jag have systems that can keep abreast of computer tech advances?
Great review of a cool new car! Please tell me there will be a much smaller wheel option. Those 22s would not last 6 months driving across the craters we have here in Pennsylvania
Its quite a bit less money than the Tesla , its got a REALLY NICE interior , it is very good looking and its fun to drive ... Why would you buy a screen on wheels for 50% more money that cant off road?
Exactly
Please spec which Tesla you are talking about, realistically there 3 versions of each of the three Tesla models.
The model 3 performance model doesn't go off-road, but it is cheaper and does 0-60 in about 3.2 seconds.
If you are a small business owner in the United States the effective cost of the Tesla Model X extended range is the same as the iPace because the Model X with gets an extra $22k in tax savings because of a quirk in the US tax law and vehicle weight. (The Model X is heavy enough it counts as a commercial truck according to the tax code instead of a passenger vehicle, and has much higher tax allowances for businesses that purchase it)
It doesn’t compete with the model X because:
-no Supercharging network
-no updates to the infotainment
-no updates to the car itself (good luck with recalls)
-it’s not a seven seater (model Y will have a more similar size)
-it doesn’t feature autopilot (currently not great, but UPDATES)
-Jaguar makes the ipace for money, not the world
-Jaguar just copies Tesla, resulting in them being a few YEARS behind
-Jaguar has to buy batteries from Panasonic at massive markups, resulting in higher prices
-Do you really want fake engine noises and a massive grill?
-The car really isn’t very efficient (the model 3 with a 75KWH battery can go farther, at a lower price.
Oh, and how do you buy the ipace? You go to a crappy little dealer that profits on making the car more expensive for you to buy.
In addition to this, they wouldn’t want to sell the ipace because it also profits on overpriced repairs. So, there are 2 possibilities: the first is that you can buy the ipace BECAUSE it is terribly un reliable, or you CAN’T buy it because it is too reliable.
I’ll stick with a model Y.
what is model Y - may i ask you.. ?! (do not judge me, i'm from Europe and i didn't know or hear anything about what "model Y" might be..)
Yeah, their next vehicle, right before they start selling space ships. Listen mate. You can't stick to something that doesn't exist. You can wait for it though.
Model Y is a cheaper version of the X, as the 3 is the cheaper version of the S.
It will be revealed in March.
thanks guys.. (well.. uhm.. i did a short check on they official site, i was curious to see that Y model, but they do not say anything about that and do not have any concept.. yet maybe it will appear a picture or a draw sketch latter) but anyway did Elon publicly announced it, or something how do you guys know about it already ?
- CCS network instead. (~ 8,000 chargers worldwide, including 350kW, 175kW and 150kW per car)
- Yes, it has OTA updates.
- Like the Teslas, it has adaptive cruise, lane sensing, and lane-keeping assist with self-steer, with sensing by cameras and radar.
- Jaguar is using their own money to build it, not other people's money. Tesla plans to be making money later this year. (It had hoped to be making money already, but the Model 3 production didn't allow that, so they are down about $5billion US currently)
- If Jag just copied Tesla, they'd be using different batteries, different motors, and we wouldn;t have lots of people saying "You can't compare it to an S/X/3 - it's too different!"
- The Teslas don't have officially certified WLTP ranges yet, and the i-Pace doesn't have an officially-certified EPA range yet. It's hard to compare the efficiencies atm.
- some people have already bought their i-Pace.
- I expect the Model Y won't make it to US customers before 2021, and to European markets in RHD before 2024. Some people might be on their third i-Pace by then.
At the end of the day, you could have a Tesla look alike with everything exactly as Tesla does and for half the price, but without access to the supercharge network nothing competes with Tesla.
i was just sitting here saying how much i loved the Jaguar but there is really no charging structure for it. yeah there is chargers all over the place but no GPS that will route you to them without you having to actually look for it like the tesla. im a huge tesla fan but just based on the supercharger network i think the tesla takes the win. also the tesla model x can seat seven and i have a family of 6. i have to also go where the room is.
Robert Blackford right... didn’t even own a Tesla, I drive a big v8. But I recognize the awesomeness of Tesla as well.
Have they fixed the problem with the battery issues on the I-Pace? Nobody is talking about it...
I can not wait to see you take it on Gold Mine Hill!!!
I've been saying for years that electric is the future of off-roading. Instant torque so you don't need low range. Dual motors so you don't need a transfer case. Quiet operation is another bonus when off-road. I guess the next move is for their cousin Land Rover to adopt some or most of the drivetrain. This could be the first reliable Jaguar and later the first reliable Land Rover. Who'd have thunk it!
Considering that the F-Pace and E-Pace share some of Land Rover's offroading technology, I'm sure there's bound to be an all-electric Land Rover in the pipeline.
My XKRs and current F-Type have been reliable - you're living in the past if you think Jags aren't reliable. But hey, miss out on great cars if you want to.
Only downside of electric is if you run out of charge in the middle of nowhere it's not as easy as having a jerrycan of fuel in the back, but then again I've driven my FWD car on trails similar to a lot of the off road course they were using in the video without problems, so I'll need to see a proper test (Once they ditch the ridiculous 22's and put proper tyres on) before it qualifies as anything more than a jacked up car. With no air intake apart from for the passenger vents, I wonder what the fording depth on it is.
I don't recall you guys talking about any of the electronics like autopilot or anything like that does it have autopilot?
Cadillac has the best "autopilot" out there... But I'm still waiting until the technology gets better before getting one.
It has adaptive cruise, lane-sensing, and lane-keeping assist with self-steer. I think they call the package "In Control Drive" or somesuch.
You don't buy a Jaguar and not drive it yourself! I can understand buyers of ordinary cars wanting the feature, though.
Best looking all-electric vehicle in the world
Looks good. Should do well.
So, what, audi probably sell 40k of the r7 or r8. It just looks like a nice evening that when you order it you will get it as compared to Tesla. And I like the tesla.
Rick James ... Waymo has already booked 20,000 jaguar I pace . So they are likely to surpass the Tesla limit since Jaguar doesn't face demand and supply dilemma like Tesla.
Roman if it gets around the track faster than the F-type would you still prefer the ice car? I bet you would.
asks the little guy where he keeps the pot of gold............
The front trunk?
Under his belly... help yourself! Lmfao
he he , it is a Leprechaun :D compared to the tall dude he looks like a Leprechaun and an accent to boot :D
Just technicality dude, it is really a bad leprechaun joke ( a dig on his stature, then again the American is probably a Giant),, accent , no accent, British Irish,etc, still to the untrained ear like me it does not matter, I just found humor on all things. but if you want to be make things serious that is your prerogative..........
Nice car, I heard Benz, I heard Tesla or Nissan, and the plugin-hybrid of Toyota such as Prius plugin-hybrid or Honda's Clarity. But never think about Jaguar would have one all-electric, and could go all-place
Jaguar showed a concept all electric car years using a motor for each wheel (Which is a much better way to do things than the brake assisted 'torque vectoring' available in just about all cars with electronic stability control) before Tesla even existed. At the time Jaguar's reliability and cost of ownership was so bad it makes current Teslas look good though. Jaguar seem to have got somewhat better since Ford explained what quality control meant while they owned them. Still astronomical money for what looks like very little interior space compared to my Skoda estate.
Is a 124mph top speed impressive for an all electric car?
1pt21gw Who goes 124 mph? An EV usually has the same top speed as a normal car. A Tesla does 155 mph
Teslas goes 140-155 mph.
It's not impressive, but it's much better then eGolf, Leaf, Bolt, etc, which top out below 100. But honestly this is irrelevant in the US.
I still don't get the obsession with top speed, especially in a crossover or SUV. The VW Tiguan 2.0 TSI has a top speed of 130 mph, so the I-Pace is not that far off.
124mph top speeed is somewhat irrelevant fora nelectric car. Jag have restricted the top speed to help preserve range. MotorTrend took it up to 124mph on the Autobahn, and used 6 miles of range just going from 80mph to 124pmh.
5:56 & 9:13 Fake engine noise. Deal breaker.
AKzebraMiner That's why you can TURN IT OFF.
You probably couldn't even afford it
SDav21 Oh, you can turn it off? That’s great. Then it’s not a deal breaker for me. But can you please tell me how? Do I go to settings?
ajlaurenjunjo You probably can’t either. I was complaining about one thing. I think the car isn’t that bad. It’s a good car. I just really hate artificial noises...
ajlaurenjunjo Hey here's an idea, why don't you shut the fuk up until you have something constructive to say instead of insulting someone you don't know.
How much is the preference for the F-type over the i-Pace about familiarity with traditional sports coupes? I'd be curious. I've noticed that a lot of reviewers seem to have an almost nostalgic preference for "old school" autos, i.e. traditionally gasoline powered v8 sounding engines and the like. Wonder if that means newer cars like EVs and turbo 4s get a bit unfairly maligned.
Let's just hope it doesn't have gaps you can drive a semi thu. I was following a model X and I almost drove my motorcycle thu the lift gate gaps.
eatadickorsomeum 😂😂😂
Lmao
So what you're saying is that you're about 1/4 of an inch tall, at most. Amazing.
Colin Fox LoL
Jaguar knows how to put a car together... Tesla doesn't
That red F-Type though!! What a car.
Not going to life, I am somewhat impressed with this car. I would just be concerned with Jaguar's track record with reliability.
sreilly magna steyr
life is life, don't life
Perhaps more luxurious than a Tesla, but that's me.
Is it better well that's subjective. However I can tell you this, it will be seen as the better buy for many in the market for an electric crossover. Now before I go further, let's get one thing out of the way. This market for an all electric vehicle is a niche, and will likely not be the mainstream power train. I say this because while media attention is all eyes on electric. I see Diesel and Gasoline improving everyday in terms of performance and cleanliness. So what does this mean? It means I see the power train as part of the puzzle for tomorrow's market. Which means the need for a supercharger network isn't necessary for sales. People would buy according to their needs, and a luxury car that can drive around town. Then take you to the airport when you leave town. Will work well for many urban dwellers. Now for acceleration and top speed, this is not a hypercar. Chances are most people aren't going to see this as a deal breaker. What they will see as one, is how impracticable the Tesla is. Everything is run by touch screen like an I-phone. Mean-while Jaguar mixes analog and digital controls. Resulting in a more user friendly interface. Tesla is also known for having many mechanical and structural flaws. Jaguar while not perfect, has no where near the quality issues reported with Tesla. Don't take my word for it? Then Consumer Reports will tell you all about it. Tesla under Musk has relied on media hype. He has marketed his brand well, but as more companies fill in the EV market. His company is going to face a lot of trouble. Sound familiar? Well, this scenario is unfolding right now with diesel's. Volkswagen screwed up, now they are out of the game as cleaner products fill the market. In comparison, I would say the I-pace is a win for the consumer. Plus I could go into detail about how much better built the power train is compared to the Tesla. Jaguar did their homework, and have put out a very capable vehicle. Tesla has very defensive fans, but I think this car is the clear winner.
Is that full glass roof standard and with no sliding cover??
ah portugal... i was wondering were you were driving. i saw a dutch license plate but that scenery cannot be the netherlands. just to dry and red/yellow
0:18
2 lower pins on Type 2 connector were left blank.
So there is no 3 phase charging.
Because who needs 22kW onboard charger.
So why didn't you tell people there are no high speed chargers for this vehicle in North America that will actually let you travel long distance in a timely fashion????? The Ipace currently can only charge at a max rate of 50 kw. Sure, it may someday charge at a max rate of 100 kw, if they actually build faster chargers. Tesla is charging at a max rate of 120 kw TODAY. So let's put that into perspective. You will take almost three times a long to charge your Ipace than a Tesla. Oh and it has shorter range between charges as well. Otherwise, it's a great car Im sure. Though Im not sure why it's limited to 124mph. That seems odd when a Tesla will do 130 on the base Model 3 and the S and X are governed to 155mph. I don't really care about the top speed, but unless you can charge quickly on a road trip, the car is useless to me. Im sure it's fine for most people though.
Nice that someone actually mentioned a real and practical difference between the electric vehicles. This is Tesla's edge over all other car manufacturers for at least the next 3 years. As well, I find it interesting that I haven't heard any comparisons to the manufacturer's ICE versions in any i-pace review. I think this is where prospective buyers will be making a shift.
There are 350kW-per car and 150kW-per-car chargers live in the USA TODAY. The key question is, how fast will the i-Pace charge from them. When it uses a 50kW charger, it supposedly charges at the full 50kW all the way to 80%.. I'm looking forward to seeing the charge taper graphs once they are available.
Where are these 350kw chargers?
In Europe, there is a corridor from Berlin to Munich of 350kW chargers.
In the USA, ElectrifyAmerica has a map of their live locations at electrifyamerica.com, under the locations tab. When last I checked, a new location was going live about once a week, with about a dozen 350kW chargers and a dozen 150kW chargers live, spread over 4 locations.
They have 4 locations up and running at this time. One is Mass, two in VA and one in Mississippi. So yeah, that's currently useless. Hopefully there ambition is real.
I get impatient at the gas pump when it takes a few minutes to go from empty to full...
How lucky you are to come to Portugal to test a Jaguar! Crossing the Atlantic just to test it :-) Jaguar is making a good marketing on uncle sam’s land! Eheh I wish I could do the same test that you guys did..
Great video guys. And an actual convincing Scottish accent!
How come these guys say 240 miles range and every other review says 300 miles?
Because we are wearing the EPA numbers the others are using European numbers.
Thanks for the prompt reply, As far as I know Jaguar is quoting WLTP combined range, which correlates to EPA 253 miles
These guys are quoting Jaguar's figure for realistic range "when driven like a Jag", and others are quoting the WLTP-certified range. There is no official EPA-certified range for the Jag yet.
How well do these batteries do in hotter climates? Like 34 degrees Celsius?
The I-Pace has active thermal management for the battery. So it should do just fine.
As mentioned, the I-Pace has active thermal management for the batteries. Jaguar also tested the I-Pace extensively in most climates.
nice vid guys. hope you liked Portugal
I know electric cars are fast on the track but i can’t get used to the fact of not hearing an engine fast or slow especially on a track it’s just sad
I wonder, do they use the engine and battery heat for air heating as well?
2:28 how did you get 240 mile range? It’s 480km which is 298 Miles
That’s the EPA test cycle. It I different from the European cycle.
The passenger looked worried on the road xD
Greetings from Portugal!
Hope you have enjoyed the trip
Real electric cars are coming now... MB GLE, I-pace, IX-3, etc.. etc!! Bye, Bye Tesla! These cars are less expensive and more capable than you... Sorry geek's car...
Front and back end look fantastic but overall shape is just too weird
Very nice car. How is the Jaguar super charger network in the USA going?
I have an xj and man it's stylish and fun to drive..
Would be interesting to have a airline pilot or fighter pilot compare the I-Pace's acceleration feel with their "daily driver" aircraft... 🤔🤔🤔
Did you know also that it's doesn't makes sense for a electric car to be in this condition, where there is no charging stations?
That road was ten times better than the gravel road I drive every day at home and I do it in a Toyota Echo. Still a nice car but not off road by any means, maybe off bitumen is ok. I would like to see it driven hard around the track until flat to see how it handles the rapid discharge.
I'm not a fan of the panoramic roof but geez, does this thing look good to my eyes. I would have one in a heartbeat just to be done with all the typical maintenance crap with both our other vehicles.
Now the only thing jaguar has left to do is set up charging stations, just like Tesla Superchargers. I love the car so much, can’t wait to see it in person.
Simply one of the best cars they have ever reviewed maybe so.
The car is fine but there is no charger that can charge it in 40 minutes. Maybe Jaguar should integrate itself to the Tesla Supercharger network? Tesla says they are allowing other companies. Or maybe they can just make their own...
In the US Electrify America has a number of 150KW and 350KW stations that can certainly max out the I-pace capabilities. By the end of next summer Electrify America will have nearly 2000 stations operational. In Europe there are a number of 100KW and now depending on country 350KW stations. So I'm not sure why Jaguar would spend billions to join the slower supercharger network.
Electrify America is only one of many 3rd parties. Why would Jaguar spend billions on a network that in many places of the world where the I-pace is sold won't benefit them.
Two questions; who is nick ? Where is Sarah?
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? You’re driving on that track and won’t even mention that is where Clarkson, Hammond & May drove a P1, 918, and LaFerrari???
Brice Milleson why would they? Nothing to do with them. Nothing to do with the car they're testing.
Because these are the things that entertain, how can you not mention such a cool fact? I'm sorry but this channel is absolutely terrible. Literally the ONLY reason I'm still subscribed is because by some miracle, these guys get there hands on new products before anyone else and I cannot understand why. There are many channels far better than this. Its incredibly frustrating to see people with potential put out poor content.
It isn't really a big deal. Lots of super and hypercars drive in this track. You make it sound like those 3 are the most important cars ever made. And this is a more information than entertainment channel.
If this iPace can do off-road like it shows with 20'' inch rims with summer / street tires i imagine a 17-18'' inch rim with All Terrain muddy grapplers BF-Goodrich will help do so much better off-road with this electric SUV ! And damn considering Tesla will void warranty of the vehicle if are driven off-road this iPace Jag could be a real stealing bargain.. ;0)
The iPace is a direct competitor with the not yet shipping midrange model Y. So, your choices are to wait for a model Y or buy an iPace today.
If you want a Minivan/large SUV type car the X is a vastly better choice, if you want a full-sized sedan the S is a better choice. If you want a sports car, the 3 is a much better choice. If you want a small luxury crossover the iPace the only shipping option. And it seems like a reasonable enough option. It will be interesting to see how the model Y compares against it.
I would consider the I-Pace over something like a Defender or a Discovery for off-roading, but not over a Tesla for daily driving.
I'd easily take it over Tesla for one reason - interior quality. I know Jag isn't known for their reliability but it won't be worse than Tesla, interior trim won't fall apart because because quality control is too expensive and they need to save money.
But you have to charge it too....
Like every electric car.
I have a new model s and the interior quality is actually really nice.
For daily driving the L2 changing and range on the Jag are totally fine. But only Teslas can use their Superchargers, which makes a huge difference in how practical it is for road trips.
The interior on my MX is excellent, can't say I was impressed with the interior of the i-Pace from the video.
Roman, how tall are you? I am 6' 4", and I am curious about that back-seat headroom and legroom. On paper, the back-seat legroom of the I-Pace is bafflingly disappointing to me, at only 35". This is less than the stated rear legroom of the Tesla Model 3 (35.2") and Range Rover Evoque (36.4"), and way less than the Honda CR-V (40.4"). With Jaguar's talk about having been able to move the passenger cabin forward, and the rear wheels back, I expected a bit more space in the back. You *looked* like you had a fair amount of space, but without knowing how tall you are, it's hard to figure out what that means to me.
I pinged TFLCar.com and Mike replied that Roman is about 6' 2", so at 6' 4", the back seat of the I-Pace would probably be somewhat of a tight fit for me, if someone similarly tall was in front - both in legroom and headroom. Still, it's probably do-able.
Can you cover up the panoramic sunroof? Because I live in Florida and that would get really hot after a while.
Michael Miller you can just not option it. There should be an aftermarket cover if the model s any indication.
Nice review
In spanish that pronunciation will be Yaguar. Jaguar in México will sound something like Xaguar. :) Again...another good video-adventure. I really like it
Dont know how good it is yet but it's definitely stunning. Easily beat Tesla in terms of styling. And it looks like a car. The interior still has some of the traditional elements like nobs, and so on.
Laughable, you can tell they are trying to sell the jag, even though it fails in all categories against Tesla. Including long road trips and charging destinations. Just randomly found this video. Lost my rapport, basically sell outs. Tesla brand is larger than jag, get used to it
I like it! Back in the 80's I had a couple of Jaguars. Electric cars are coming. I thought the Tesla sounded nice but the horror stories you hear about how people are treated after the warrant was up is reason enough to not own one.
Great review. Why do I feel this looks better built than any other Jag before it ?
Ive been following all UA-cam videos regarding the Ipace these days (obviously as I ordered one) but nothing news comes on other than the “Portugal” reviews showing more or less the same material. A little too late for my opinion, but as I’m hyper for news i can deal with this..
I dont like Tesla's cause they are way to sparce inside. I like this cause its more traditional yet futuristic. Definitely my cup of tea. I wish they would do a proper electric sports car.
I'm sure that's coming. They just started with a body type that would gain the most traction in the market.
Good looking car. I like it.
Everyone just hold on for the Porsche mission E but this is better then the model 3