I can’t help cringing whenever people talk with a weird reverence about the royals I don’t understand how they actually take it so seriously they’re just random wealth hoarders
everyone bullies americans for being super crazy (which is very true and valid), but they fail to remember the apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree
Interesting theory. My side of the country was colonized by the Spanish and only joined after the revolution And I Would argue that we are less crazy. We are a conglomeration.....not a rotten British apple.😅
It's a VERY true observation that the United States is what happened to British people when the King finally said, "You're on your own!" The American people essentially took their "need for a all knowing superpower" and transferred it from royalty to government. That's why our elections are a fucking mess. Imagine if Britain VOTED on their royalty every 4 years. There would be bombed castles. Keyed horses. Stolen fetuses.
American here: So, I am a big lover of British history and the reason why I enjoy is BECAUSE the apple does not fall far from the tree. The more I learn the history, and especially modern day politics, I see we are EXTREMELY similar. I have my theories as to why that is but yea, I think the reason why the British get away with their crazy (sort of) is like, the accent and the old traditions, and it’s all very “regal”, vs in America, we don’t have that.
I've always found some people's devotion to the monarchy strange. As an Irish person who once lived in England for a bit, it was an experience to listen to people talk about it, it's like they don't realize how outlandish and strange it is, like approaching an uncontacted island and realizing they revere some random dude as a God for no reason.
I’ve gotta be honest, as an Englishman myself, I never hear people talk about the royal family. On the very rare occasion they do, it isn’t in a positive way 😂
@ghoultooth I'm not sure if it's that common in more populated places but I live in a small town and the amount of people here who bum the monarchy is insane, I've outright said to people " I don't like supporting murderers and pedos" and they look at me like I'm the crazy one, while they're crying over a complete stranger who protected her nonce son
@ghoultooth I made a joke when Philip died to my sister, "they're not celebrating his life they're celebrating their death" and my own mum had a massive go at me, this woman who hates the government and doesn't trust any of em, yet the monarchy is okay? I think people find comfort in seeing them as their own family, crazy delusion
To me, a Brazilian girl who lives in France, the royalties are just the same as any celebrity from Hollywood. Too bad the Brexit happened tho, it was so easy to go to UK before.
It’s funny because most people that voted for Brexit are now regretting it 😂 they had hoped it would prevent immigration, but it didn’t and it fucked the country over. I love my country, but man Brexit never should have happened.
honestly as a canadian i find our connection to the royals weird. i remember once getting into an argument with some older family members about why we still have so many ties to the monarchy and why i should care about them at all, and really the only answer i got was just because
Yeah it's exactly the same with a lot of older British people, they can't justify defending nonces and murderers, but they'll get extremely angry at you questioning it
This is really interesting to me as an American, because our housing and cost of living is also reaching insane numbers! Thanks for spreading awareness and also making me laugh lol, this is the only way I will ever learn anything about world politics 😍🤪 Also, been following your content since the James corden video and I’m still loving it! Can’t wait to see more great stuff in the future, keep it coming!
Great video! I'm not British, but sounds like the monarchy kinda stinks! I'm glad the USA left all that, to be ruled instead by corporations and politicians serving the top 1%.
Wealth always ends up buying all the power. To prevent that you'd have to make some kind of permanent unchangeable law against it. Humaity has too many easily corruptible people.
My partner is British and he always repeats "But they are bringing so much tourism" and I'm always like... 'Dude, I am the foreigner. I come here. Pretty much none of us care about monarchy, it's a gimmick. Buildings will be there regardless of monarchy.' And then he finally did some googling into how much of his tax goes to the crown. (Bonus content: "Foreigners come here for the NHS!" lul)
I’m British but live in Germany. It’s not as if the crazy prince who built it lives in Neuschwanstein castle (you know the one, Disney copied it), but hordes of tourists go there. So yeah. The tenants are not necessary!
*Americans go to britian for NHS. Fixed it. The rest of the world has their own version of NHS. Only Americans have to pay out of pocket for medical care. Canadians do not move to britian for NHS, we move there if we are in certain careers that have a higher paying foothold in britian. To make money. Or fall in love with a Brit. They would take away my Canadian passport if I didn’t point this out to a fellow American brother 😂 😂
As a Canadian (commonwealth nation), I view the monarchy as an expensive relic that represents the oppression and colonization of our Native American population. They also represent wealth inequality. Recently, a statue of Elizabeth II was erected in Toronto that cost more than a million dollars to make. We had to reprint our currency for Charles, which cost millions. We were expected to pay for the security of Harry and Meghan when they first intended to live in Canada - to the tune of more than $6 million per year, until the government refused. All of this lead to a public outcry. All this despite the fact that polls show less than half of Canadians support the monarchy.
As an outside looker i believe England tieslike 90% of their own culture and national identity to the royal family, ya'll need to.. break up with them and find your true selves or sumn
I think it depends on the generation, the older ones are very much set in their ways, although I work with people in their 50s and 60s who hate them too, a lot of older people still support them, it'd be hard to find someone under the age of 35 who genuinely likes them, maybe if you go to the rich parts but most of the younger generation hate them
yeah i really don't think it's anywhere near 90%-- the people who are into it are just really way too obssessed. most do not care about them if they don't have a negative opinion. i would argue brexit itself makes up more national identity than the royal family.
Nah the super royalists are a weird minority. Most people don't give the royals much thought except when they're dying, getting married or being implicated in crime.
the loyalty to the royals literally feels like the whole country has collectively got Stockholm syndrome lmao😧 also wtf is pomp and how can anyone say it with a straight face
18:15 "There hasn't been a monarchy in France since... you know *Slicing sound*" You're wrong, since Louis XVI was beheaded there has been 3 monarchs (Louis XVIII, Charles X and Louis-Philippe), 2 emperors (Napoléon I and III), 5 republics and 1 dictatorship (Vichy Regime).
yeah but all of those were weak af, so like, the real powerful crown died with louis xvi cuz after the enlightenment many europeans wouldnt buy into that
Hm an old British institution wants to appeal to Gen Zs? I smell a job for Russell T Davies! A shame they lost their only cast member of colour. Isn't there a gay princess? A lesbian wedding at the Abbey would be awesome! Having lost an actor from a hit show, what about casting LGBTQ+ people the hottest NetFlix shows? Hey get the creative team behind 'Scoop'!
You can't put a progressive facade on an institution based on social inequality, colonialism, and exploitative wealth. It doesn't need to be modernized, it needs to be phased out.
I never noticed Charles's fingers before, and now I realize I was all the better for it. Also, why does Rishi Sunek in the pulpit sound like he's summoning an eldritch horror?
@@PBI45 yeah I say kick them out and make it a survivor style reality show that anyone can sign up for and whoever wins is the Royal family for the year. Lol
I still have no idea what Meghan Markle supposedly did to have The Sun as her #1 haters. That's about all i've heard of the monarchy other than the musical chair line of succession thing.
11 fat lies on the Oprah show. So I read. Has a 30 million pound wedding at no cost to her, then sneers at it as a spectacle. Invited only her mother and Hollywood. I don’t watch this stuff, boring af. 2 children hidden away like Flowers in the Attic horror movie. 😂
BE FOR REAL! You’ve got no idea why these colonizers hate Meghan Markle? Let’s say it together “SHE’S BLACK” And I’m black and don’t really care for her either, but not as a person, she just hasn’t been on a show I liked watching. And all their weddings are crazy expensive and funded by public🎉
They hated her long before the Oprah interview. For eg. the false "Meghan made Kate cry" story was published by the Sun. The "Oprah lies" narrative was propagated by Piers Morgan who has hated Meghan, ever since it became clear he wouldn't be invited to the wedding. Before that he defended her. Many of the Oprah claims were unverifiable by nature but some were purposely distorted by the media. Chief example was Archie's birthright to be a prince. Media claimed that H&M didn't know/lied about the fact that Archie wouldn't become a prince until he was the grandchild of the current monarch (the George V convention). However when you watch the interview you actually hear them mention the George V convention by name. They were claiming that discussions were being had to remove the convention so that upon King Charle's ascension, Archie would not become a prince. The Daily Express wrote an article in April, 2018 how Meghan's request for a private wedding was denied by the institution due to public interest. The 30 million pounds wedding was indeed a spectacle and it took place on May 19th, 2018. Meghan's father and siblings have since made it obvious why she would not have invited them to her wedding. All of them have publicly bullied her via the press. Samantha was unveiled to be the anonymous troll who started the false pregnancy lies and Thomas has worn blackface to mock Meghan. However, Meghan wanted to invite Samantha's daughter to the wedding but the firm requested that she didn't to avoid increasing attention on Samantha's behavior. H&M are understandably protective over their children. There are people currently in prison who made death threats against Princes Harry and Archie. Also, the media is not above harassing their children. For eg. the lie that the QEII was angry that H&M named their daughter Lillibet. An obvious lie meant to incite anger against a toddler and her parents.
The only argument for having a royal family at all in the U.K. is that the interest in them generates more more money than it costs the state to for their upkeep. They're like pandas in a zoo (without the panda diplomacy part 🥶). As a whole the idea of worshipping people solely because they are the distant relatives of people who once were the head of state with power over the whole country is bizarre to me. By that logic we should be worshipping the children of prime ministers like princes and princesses 😂.
Nevermind the fact they were fucking awful people, I'm guessing if you're British you also learnt about the past monarchs, I don't remember any teacher trying to act like they were good, they were all brutally honest about how arcaic they were
Actually there is heaps of evidence that they amount it costs to sustain them, the amount of avoided taxes and the benefits the receive is profoundly more than the tourism/ interest they bring. And would the tourism stop if the monarchy does? The French would say no.
That's no argument at all. We don't just pay for their food and energy bills. We pay for their *extensive* retinues of personal staff. We pay to repair and maintain their collection of palaces and castles and the hundreds of acres of land around them. We pay for their luxury clothing, luxury cars, helicopters and yachts. We pay for 24/7 police guard for who knows how many of them. We pay for their kids private schooling and university fees. We pay for their little jaunts all around the world in private jets. And finally we pay personally when they and the established that surrounds them block progressive policies that would create a more equal and fair society. Needless to say, no amount of tourism could ever repay what they cost.
The problem is people conflate the monarchy with the monarch. You can admire the monarch as a person. But you can simultaneously despise the monarchy, their history and what they represent
Missed opportunity to let the distinquished Rom Weafley talk at the start. Edit: to be serious though, as a gen z american, I havent really heard or cared much about the royal family. It really does sound like if the Kardashians ruled America though. When are we starting the revolution?
I’ve never got the Royal Family, even when I was young. The Queen visited my brothers preschool (for some bizarre reason) and I remember my entire school being so excited, and the whole time I was “meh” about it. Although I did take pictures and was within arms reach of the Queen, and I fell over, causing her security to jump like I was up to something - I was like 10/11 😂 My mates girlfriends mum wouldn’t speak to him after he didn’t want to watch the coronation 😂
The argument about the Monarchy bringing in tourism is absolute bollocks. Tourists would still visit. I mean, look at what France did with their monarchy.... And I don't see them losing tourists 😂
i had such an interesting experience when the queen died. im not british, im iranian. i used to work at this hostel in turkey when the queen died. there was this british guest i was good friends with and the second he came through the door i told him about queens death and he was so happy. because he was very much anti monarchy. then this other british guest comes in and they get into a fight because the second guy was pro monarchy and was like "she is someone's grandma. be respectful" and the first guy was like "i dont care about someone else's grandma also she was a colonist" AND THIS IS ALL HAPPENING IN FRONT OF A THIRD GUEST WHO WAS IRISH. he was just sitting there drinking beer, celebrating, and staring at these two yell at each other. honestly the funniest moment of my work there. also fuck the monarchy
Kinda wild for a Danish person that love our royal family, sure they arent perfect but they arent so stuck up and as expensive 😅 Also our switch to King was just announced on a balcony, no need for spending all that money on going to a church and so on
see that is so much better. i remember one of the worst things about the new king's coronation was that it was happening right after the pandemic and it cost so much money, which was of course coming from tax dollars while people were literally starving to death.
@@nebula541 yep, it cost 100 million British pounds. It was almost like they were trying to convince themselves and the world they were still powerful.
I was watching the coronation of Daddy Chuck right and I genuinely came out with the best joke of my life and only my partner's family heard it so I'd like to reveal it now for love and kudos. At one point, Camilla was being queened-in and the vicary man said 'will you receive the royal sceptre?' And I said: 'She will tonight.' 🥲 Stunning video as always
@@reallifezuzu if we're talking about positive change within the framework of liberal democracy, you would get a lot more tax money from closing loopholes and legally pursuing wealthy tax avoiders. or by dismantling nuclear weapons. the monarchy is chump change.
I really like your takes, the video styling and edits, and your humor!! I know nothing of royalty but i was entertained the whole vid and it honestly could've been longer ✌️
i had never heard the term "pomp and pageantry" as im not from the uk, but yesterday I opened a magazine getting my hair done for the first time and I see a royals section and there the term was! i was reminded of this video and it made me chuckle a little bit XD
not to be like a peasant from the French revolution, but it actually shocks me how people will fight nail in the head to defend the monarchy but I've never heard a legitimate reason that has made me think the monarchy compensates with purpose for even half its money that it takes from society. the basis reason to the monarchy is just to keep up a tradition from centuries ago. CENTURIES AGO. it's arguably caused more harm that it has good: thinking about the colonial and imperialist history of the monarchy, and how it still has power of the countries it took advantage of years ago. plus, forcing two random people to consummate when they might not have an romantic or s3xual attraction to each other is just wrong. did we not learn from Marie Antoinette and Louis XVI? people to this day still get confused to why the two kids, who married at 14 and 15 respectively, didn't consummate until 7/8 years of their marriage, when maybe putting two people who didn't grow up with each other and feel pre existing pressure from every adult around them to get in bed. child marriage and children giving b1rth is wrong for any class of people. I know they probably don't do that for the present monarchy, but the history of it is undeniably messed up.
I really like the little set design vibe you cobbled together in your intro as well as your overall style! This was a very enjoyable watch, and I am looking forward to going through your prior stuff! Also, no offence, but you're pretty cute ;)
Call-in’s (not callouts) often host the most necessary conversations, so I love seeing them. I really enjoyed seeing this video and your opinion why the royal family ‘isn’t working’ in this Gen Z era. However, I gotta ask: why is the British Family so dedicated to being ugly? There is a literal kpop star who has royal blood, yet it seems no one is getting plastic surgery even though they have exorbitant amounts of money merely because they won birth lottery of being born in a rich royal family. Is this their last effort of reliability with the British public?
"Although the simplest item in the coronation, the spoon is remarkable given its history and importance..." I was able to keep a straight face all the way up to "the spoon is remarkable". Thank goodness we United Statesians held onto the English language so that we can share the beauty of such absurdly silly phrases. People say that the U.K. and the U.S. are two countries separated by a common language, but goofy shit like this is what brings us together. Peace be with you, Joseph Fisher, and always remember, the spoon is remarkable.
nah, the royal family 100% has a massive self-destruct button for all the historic landmarks in britain if they go, all of britains culture goes with it. and 80% of india's artefacts
tbf i think we underestimate how much other countries loved the queen, especially in eastern europe i've found. i was on my year abroad when the queen died and i sat w my bulgarian friend going through her instagram stories and literally all of her friends were like "rip your majesty
LeT iT bE kNoWn: I am not trying to start an argument etc with my opinion, or downgrade others, because none of us have the time for that online. I’m a Gen Z who is fond of the monarchy. Granted, I do come from South Africa, which had HEAVY colonisation, so people do find me odd in that instance. However, no one has forgotten about that past where I am from. I suppose I like them quite a bit, mostly due to Kate. She has been my role model for a while, and from my own experience, she is a great one! Additionally, I used to be a very anxious child, but when I began watching royal etiquette videos and teaching myself what I could, said etiquette has helped me hugely when I didn’t know what to do in certain social situations. Tbh, I’m not involved in talks about the different generations, partially because Gen Z is painted out negatively in most cases and a lot of articles around it are nonsense. Though, I will admit, there is hardly any interest in the RF from Gen Z.
I’m in the US. I went to my discord group to crack a joke about the queen dying and everyone there was actually mourning her. Like wtf? Why tf should we care?
I couldn't stop seeing that Megxit headline as Mex-git... and seeing which rag it was on, the idea of them peddling some casual xenophobia checked out, even if I couldn't imagine what it would be about.
Pomp, beauty, valour, fantasy. The monarch’s feels like a brand, it romanticizes a bygone era, it’s a holdfast for nostalgia. It doesn’t rely on you knowing everything about them, it relies on mystery and presentation. It actually thrived when the public knew very little of them, just like how celebrities in the 90s felt grander than current ones, because now we see everything whether they like it or not and the mystique is crushed. And when we see them try to build Parasocial bonds with the public and try to be relatable we interpret it as inauthentic and pr. The Parasocial social phenomenon is actually a neutral thing, it’s just in our socialized nature to be inspired by one another and observe. But now we’ve entered our Truman show era... People like the monarchy in the same juvenile way they like the movie Cinderella. They love a pretty and fashionable woman in pearls and a ball gown dress, and a prince in a waist coat. Fantasy and vicariously living through those living indulgently. A faith based system ultimately because of the use of a god justifying their power. Of course, they’re right and of sound mind in saying divine intervention came fourth and decreed them the ultimate power for eternity. Right, guys? 🙄 But anyone else to use such language would be listed as a schizophrenic with religious delusions. Sounds to me William the conqueror yapped his way to the top besides the whole scorching the earth and genocide campaigns bit and weaponized religion and the public’s lack of education. Serfs probably were told to be grateful to exist on the holy land of their supreme leader (owner) If the genesis of any new power came to be in modern times like the monarchy we’d call it a terrifying religious cult.
I get that if we sourced all our histories and the history of those who are in power to this day, we’d likely see some injustice, murder,senseless destruction and greed. I don’t believe in the whole ‘sins of my father’ concept that anyone that obtained wealth from an amoral ancestor are of the same cruel nature. I think there’s possibility of those with great power to do great things with it. Create better systems, level out the wealth disparity. But restitutions and fairness is top priority of those still suffering from past harm. we should also not tolerate bad behaviour from members of the royal family just because they’re protected by the power of their forefathers.
"it's giving narcissism" the english monarchy is weird, because the english class system is weird. the swedish monarchy isweirder yet, because it's a napoleonite general who was just offered the crown of sweden adn took it and now their royal nighnesses are named ... Benadotte. The norwegian monarchy is NORMAL. The people VOTED to have a monarchym, and was gifted a non-heir son to the danish throne. Because the public chose the king, the church doesn't crown the,, and the current king has never once worn the crown. which is kind of a bummer for most kids. lets be honest. at this point monarchy has outstayed its welcome, but maybe it is cheaper than voting in a new president every now and then? it just kind of feels like elder abuse
7:48 Speaking as a Commonwealth citizen: don't worry. Nobody outside of the UK cares or even remembers about the Commonwealth outside of a very specific subset of Australian boomers who haven't set foot in the UK since Diana was alive. Most people were barely even aware of the whole Brexit debate until after it happened.
When i heard the queen died i just kinda went, "oh dear, the queen is dead" and moved on with my life. Sure it's sad for her family and everything but she's just a person. Kinda like if you read in the newspaper that some random person in your town died, you feel bad for their family but you didn't know them so you don't really care too much.
So, United States-ian’s perspective. I have yet to go to the Britain, but I happen to know a fair amount about British history, like going back to the 1100 (note, I like all history, not just British/UK but that’s what this particular video is about). The royal family, especially once they lost pretty much all law making powers, have always fascinated me - it’s like the most expensive pizza party ever that your boss gives you when you really wanted was a raise. It’s very wild to watch, especially when tied up in the “divine right to rule”. However, let’s say that the monarchy was abolished today, there is some much British history in that country that does not revolve around Buckingham Palace, that you would absolutely still get tourists. I think that’s such a crap take that the monarchy has to be a tax burden on the people so people can like, wait for hours to see a royal person. Like, nah. It’s takes 14 hours to get to the UK, I’m not standing around for hours to maybe see a person. Vacation time sucks in the US - time is limited 😂
Honestly, I never got the tourism argument. They don't need to exist for tourists to still come and pay to see royal sht. Even if that argument was valid (which it isn't to anyone who thinks about it for more than two seconds) the money they supposedly bring in is vastly insignificant compared to how much they cost the country each year in tax payer money. They should just abdecate, no bloodshed needed.
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I think peoples obsession of the royals is over the top. The royals are human just like us let them be that.
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I can’t help cringing whenever people talk with a weird reverence about the royals I don’t understand how they actually take it so seriously they’re just random wealth hoarders
Biggest dole bums in the country
And ooohhh the inbreeding, let’s not forget the inbreeding
So is every other famous person. What's your point
@@Nicole-zh7pl other famous people don‘t hoard the money of average taxpayers and have political power 💀
This is HUMOR. 😅😅😅
everyone bullies americans for being super crazy (which is very true and valid), but they fail to remember the apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree
Interesting theory. My side of the country was colonized by the Spanish and only joined after the revolution And I Would argue that we are less crazy. We are a conglomeration.....not a rotten British apple.😅
It's a VERY true observation that the United States is what happened to British people when the King finally said, "You're on your own!" The American people essentially took their "need for a all knowing superpower" and transferred it from royalty to government. That's why our elections are a fucking mess. Imagine if Britain VOTED on their royalty every 4 years. There would be bombed castles. Keyed horses. Stolen fetuses.
@@Du-Massesrotten Spanish orange?
American here: So, I am a big lover of British history and the reason why I enjoy is BECAUSE the apple does not fall far from the tree. The more I learn the history, and especially modern day politics, I see we are EXTREMELY similar. I have my theories as to why that is but yea, I think the reason why the British get away with their crazy (sort of) is like, the accent and the old traditions, and it’s all very “regal”, vs in America, we don’t have that.
I've always found some people's devotion to the monarchy strange. As an Irish person who once lived in England for a bit, it was an experience to listen to people talk about it, it's like they don't realize how outlandish and strange it is, like approaching an uncontacted island and realizing they revere some random dude as a God for no reason.
I’m a Southeast Asian who lived in Australia for several years. Strange is definitely a word for it. I hope everyone is doing well regardless.
Hmm you think if Ireland still had its monarchy it would be the same as England?
I’ve gotta be honest, as an Englishman myself, I never hear people talk about the royal family. On the very rare occasion they do, it isn’t in a positive way 😂
@ghoultooth I'm not sure if it's that common in more populated places but I live in a small town and the amount of people here who bum the monarchy is insane, I've outright said to people " I don't like supporting murderers and pedos" and they look at me like I'm the crazy one, while they're crying over a complete stranger who protected her nonce son
@ghoultooth I made a joke when Philip died to my sister, "they're not celebrating his life they're celebrating their death" and my own mum had a massive go at me, this woman who hates the government and doesn't trust any of em, yet the monarchy is okay? I think people find comfort in seeing them as their own family, crazy delusion
This video captured the pomp and pageantry of the royal family really well
I’m a northerner and can happily say I feel no connection to that bunch of embarrassing tax dodgers 😂
I love your videos Joseph keep them up❤
Geordie here and, yeah same. The south feels like a different country sometimes.
Agreed
Totally agree!
Same
my most cherished memory of the crown will always be when i was pleasantly surprised with a mountbatten explosion scene
To me, a Brazilian girl who lives in France, the royalties are just the same as any celebrity from Hollywood. Too bad the Brexit happened tho, it was so easy to go to UK before.
It’s funny because most people that voted for Brexit are now regretting it 😂 they had hoped it would prevent immigration, but it didn’t and it fucked the country over. I love my country, but man Brexit never should have happened.
honestly as a canadian i find our connection to the royals weird. i remember once getting into an argument with some older family members about why we still have so many ties to the monarchy and why i should care about them at all, and really the only answer i got was just because
Yeah it's exactly the same with a lot of older British people, they can't justify defending nonces and murderers, but they'll get extremely angry at you questioning it
I thought you kept the royal house because without them Quebec and English Canadia would have to agree on a constitution.
You are welcome to leave. Good afternoon.
@@LoyalandTrue. yeah for sure this random young person from canada can singlehandedly make the decision to leave the commonwealth. spot on
This is really interesting to me as an American, because our housing and cost of living is also reaching insane numbers! Thanks for spreading awareness and also making me laugh lol, this is the only way I will ever learn anything about world politics 😍🤪
Also, been following your content since the James corden video and I’m still loving it! Can’t wait to see more great stuff in the future, keep it coming!
Great video! I'm not British, but sounds like the monarchy kinda stinks! I'm glad the USA left all that, to be ruled instead by corporations and politicians serving the top 1%.
Wealth always ends up buying all the power. To prevent that you'd have to make some kind of permanent unchangeable law against it. Humaity has too many easily corruptible people.
My partner is British and he always repeats "But they are bringing so much tourism" and I'm always like... 'Dude, I am the foreigner. I come here. Pretty much none of us care about monarchy, it's a gimmick. Buildings will be there regardless of monarchy.' And then he finally did some googling into how much of his tax goes to the crown.
(Bonus content: "Foreigners come here for the NHS!" lul)
best argument against it bringing tourism, is that it would bring MORE if they opened up palaces to public tours
Now that's a good business idea. Evict those free-loaders and you could even rent out a couple hundred rooms
I’m British but live in Germany. It’s not as if the crazy prince who built it lives in Neuschwanstein castle (you know the one, Disney copied it), but hordes of tourists go there. So yeah. The tenants are not necessary!
*Americans go to britian for NHS. Fixed it. The rest of the world has their own version of NHS. Only Americans have to pay out of pocket for medical care. Canadians do not move to britian for NHS, we move there if we are in certain careers that have a higher paying foothold in britian. To make money. Or fall in love with a Brit. They would take away my Canadian passport if I didn’t point this out to a fellow American brother 😂 😂
@@allytrudie864Americans don’t go to Britain for the NHS. 🤦♀️ Medical tourism typically happens in Mexico.
in fairness to us- it was a really good game of Connect Four
Chess would have been more appropriate
@@herbie.e are we as a group any good at chess? no
we actually watched the coronation of charles in class, my classmates and i could not stop laughing at the ridiculousness its so bizarre as a non brit
As a brit I implore you to laugh in the face of anyone defending them
As a Canadian (commonwealth nation), I view the monarchy as an expensive relic that represents the oppression and colonization of our Native American population. They also represent wealth inequality. Recently, a statue of Elizabeth II was erected in Toronto that cost more than a million dollars to make. We had to reprint our currency for Charles, which cost millions. We were expected to pay for the security of Harry and Meghan when they first intended to live in Canada - to the tune of more than $6 million per year, until the government refused. All of this lead to a public outcry. All this despite the fact that polls show less than half of Canadians support the monarchy.
As an outside looker i believe England tieslike 90% of their own culture and national identity to the royal family, ya'll need to.. break up with them and find your true selves or sumn
I think it depends on the generation, the older ones are very much set in their ways, although I work with people in their 50s and 60s who hate them too, a lot of older people still support them, it'd be hard to find someone under the age of 35 who genuinely likes them, maybe if you go to the rich parts but most of the younger generation hate them
yeah i really don't think it's anywhere near 90%-- the people who are into it are just really way too obssessed. most do not care about them if they don't have a negative opinion. i would argue brexit itself makes up more national identity than the royal family.
You are right even their good foods are stolen from other colonized cultures (lets not bring up the tea...)
Nah the super royalists are a weird minority. Most people don't give the royals much thought except when they're dying, getting married or being implicated in crime.
Someone else's highness implies your own lowness, just sayin'.
This is how I find out Rihanna is the national treasure of Barbados
the loyalty to the royals literally feels like the whole country has collectively got Stockholm syndrome lmao😧 also wtf is pomp and how can anyone say it with a straight face
18:15 "There hasn't been a monarchy in France since... you know *Slicing sound*" You're wrong, since Louis XVI was beheaded there has been 3 monarchs (Louis XVIII, Charles X and Louis-Philippe), 2 emperors (Napoléon I and III), 5 republics and 1 dictatorship (Vichy Regime).
yeah but all of those were weak af, so like, the real powerful crown died with louis xvi cuz after the enlightenment many europeans wouldnt buy into that
Hm an old British institution wants to appeal to Gen Zs? I smell a job for Russell T Davies! A shame they lost their only cast member of colour. Isn't there a gay princess? A lesbian wedding at the Abbey would be awesome! Having lost an actor from a hit show, what about casting LGBTQ+ people the hottest NetFlix shows? Hey get the creative team behind 'Scoop'!
You, sir, have got the job
You can't put a progressive facade on an institution based on social inequality, colonialism, and exploitative wealth. It doesn't need to be modernized, it needs to be phased out.
the devotion to the royals and the fucking fits people wear to see them is probably the most american britain can get
I never noticed Charles's fingers before, and now I realize I was all the better for it.
Also, why does Rishi Sunek in the pulpit sound like he's summoning an eldritch horror?
Because he's rallying the Tories.
British ppl pay for a TV license so they can watch tv..
They also pay for the Royals for the drama and entertainment...lol
about £83,000,000 a year we pay them. Their estates earn them £120,000,000 a year. Why do we pay them? They have more than enough.
@@PBI45 yeah I say kick them out and make it a survivor style reality show that anyone can sign up for and whoever wins is the Royal family for the year. Lol
@@munkyzzb7504that is a perfect idea
Let be real a lot of us don’t pay for that 😂
@@PBI45plus "their" estates were stolen from us commoners many hundreds of years ago. It should all belong to the public.
I still have no idea what Meghan Markle supposedly did to have The Sun as her #1 haters. That's about all i've heard of the monarchy other than the musical chair line of succession thing.
11 fat lies on the Oprah show. So I read. Has a 30 million pound wedding at no cost to her, then sneers at it as a spectacle. Invited only her mother and Hollywood.
I don’t watch this stuff, boring af.
2 children hidden away like Flowers in the Attic horror movie.
😂
BE FOR REAL! You’ve got no idea why these colonizers hate Meghan Markle? Let’s say it together “SHE’S BLACK”
And I’m black and don’t really care for her either, but not as a person, she just hasn’t been on a show I liked watching. And all their weddings are crazy expensive and funded by public🎉
They hated her long before the Oprah interview. For eg. the false "Meghan made Kate cry" story was published by the Sun.
The "Oprah lies" narrative was propagated by Piers Morgan who has hated Meghan, ever since it became clear he wouldn't be invited to the wedding. Before that he defended her. Many of the Oprah claims were unverifiable by nature but some were purposely distorted by the media. Chief example was Archie's birthright to be a prince. Media claimed that H&M didn't know/lied about the fact that Archie wouldn't become a prince until he was the grandchild of the current monarch (the George V convention). However when you watch the interview you actually hear them mention the George V convention by name. They were claiming that discussions were being had to remove the convention so that upon King Charle's ascension, Archie would not become a prince.
The Daily Express wrote an article in April, 2018 how Meghan's request for a private wedding was denied by the institution due to public interest. The 30 million pounds wedding was indeed a spectacle and it took place on May 19th, 2018.
Meghan's father and siblings have since made it obvious why she would not have invited them to her wedding. All of them have publicly bullied her via the press. Samantha was unveiled to be the anonymous troll who started the false pregnancy lies and Thomas has worn blackface to mock Meghan. However, Meghan wanted to invite Samantha's daughter to the wedding but the firm requested that she didn't to avoid increasing attention on Samantha's behavior.
H&M are understandably protective over their children. There are people currently in prison who made death threats against Princes Harry and Archie. Also, the media is not above harassing their children. For eg. the lie that the QEII was angry that H&M named their daughter Lillibet. An obvious lie meant to incite anger against a toddler and her parents.
@@LilyGazou???
She made the terrible error of being a beautiful, intelligent black woman
The only argument for having a royal family at all in the U.K. is that the interest in them generates more more money than it costs the state to for their upkeep. They're like pandas in a zoo (without the panda diplomacy part 🥶). As a whole the idea of worshipping people solely because they are the distant relatives of people who once were the head of state with power over the whole country is bizarre to me. By that logic we should be worshipping the children of prime ministers like princes and princesses 😂.
Nevermind the fact they were fucking awful people, I'm guessing if you're British you also learnt about the past monarchs, I don't remember any teacher trying to act like they were good, they were all brutally honest about how arcaic they were
"They're like pandas in a zoo."
I mean...they're somewhat better at producing offspring at least.
Actually there is heaps of evidence that they amount it costs to sustain them, the amount of avoided taxes and the benefits the receive is profoundly more than the tourism/ interest they bring.
And would the tourism stop if the monarchy does? The French would say no.
That's no argument at all. We don't just pay for their food and energy bills.
We pay for their *extensive* retinues of personal staff.
We pay to repair and maintain their collection of palaces and castles and the hundreds of acres of land around them.
We pay for their luxury clothing, luxury cars, helicopters and yachts.
We pay for 24/7 police guard for who knows how many of them.
We pay for their kids private schooling and university fees.
We pay for their little jaunts all around the world in private jets.
And finally we pay personally when they and the established that surrounds them block progressive policies that would create a more equal and fair society.
Needless to say, no amount of tourism could ever repay what they cost.
People would go to the UK anyway, regardless of the Royal Family being there
if the money is the problem just turn Buckingham palace into a museum
The problem is people conflate the monarchy with the monarch.
You can admire the monarch as a person.
But you can simultaneously despise the monarchy, their history and what they represent
The difference between being a royalist and a monarchist
06:33, that VOICE had me in tears. Glad I found your channel. Love your content.
Missed opportunity to let the distinquished Rom Weafley talk at the start.
Edit: to be serious though, as a gen z american, I havent really heard or cared much about the royal family. It really does sound like if the Kardashians ruled America though. When are we starting the revolution?
I’ve never got the Royal Family, even when I was young. The Queen visited my brothers preschool (for some bizarre reason) and I remember my entire school being so excited, and the whole time I was “meh” about it. Although I did take pictures and was within arms reach of the Queen, and I fell over, causing her security to jump like I was up to something - I was like 10/11 😂
My mates girlfriends mum wouldn’t speak to him after he didn’t want to watch the coronation 😂
We're having a similar issue in my country, Lesotho, we still have a monarchy and they literally don't do anything for us😭
The argument about the Monarchy bringing in tourism is absolute bollocks. Tourists would still visit.
I mean, look at what France did with their monarchy.... And I don't see them losing tourists 😂
i had such an interesting experience when the queen died.
im not british, im iranian. i used to work at this hostel in turkey when the queen died. there was this british guest i was good friends with and the second he came through the door i told him about queens death and he was so happy. because he was very much anti monarchy. then this other british guest comes in and they get into a fight because the second guy was pro monarchy and was like "she is someone's grandma. be respectful" and the first guy was like "i dont care about someone else's grandma also she was a colonist" AND THIS IS ALL HAPPENING IN FRONT OF A THIRD GUEST WHO WAS IRISH. he was just sitting there drinking beer, celebrating, and staring at these two yell at each other. honestly the funniest moment of my work there.
also fuck the monarchy
Any mention of Ghost Diana from S6 of the Crown is good in my books, its such a funny story telling thing to do???
Kinda wild for a Danish person that love our royal family, sure they arent perfect but they arent so stuck up and as expensive 😅 Also our switch to King was just announced on a balcony, no need for spending all that money on going to a church and so on
see that is so much better. i remember one of the worst things about the new king's coronation was that it was happening right after the pandemic and it cost so much money, which was of course coming from tax dollars while people were literally starving to death.
There shouldn’t really be a royal family in the first place lol
@@nebula541 yep, it cost 100 million British pounds. It was almost like they were trying to convince themselves and the world they were still powerful.
I love your videos, they're always so fun
Really good video
And funny
A real thinker as well
as a brit. royal family gkkgkkkk mimimimi💤
amazing way to write ZZZzzzzZZZZzzzzZZZzzz i feel so clever for catching it
@@usernameirrelevant had to add the emoji just in case
I’ve never seen snoring represented in this way, I’m amazed
It's the same, or ever worse, in Poland with Catholic Church. They take money from taxes for nothing. Nothing good.
We want the 3 hour video!!!! 🖤
yes please
Absolutely wild opening 10/10 love your work ❤
I enjoyed the brief glimpse of your rainy driveway. On the Royals I have nothing to add.
I was watching the coronation of Daddy Chuck right and I genuinely came out with the best joke of my life and only my partner's family heard it so I'd like to reveal it now for love and kudos. At one point, Camilla was being queened-in and the vicary man said 'will you receive the royal sceptre?'
And I said:
'She will tonight.' 🥲
Stunning video as always
nothing would actually change if we abolished the monarchy. would be fun tho
We wouldn't have to out with any more pomp and ceremony. That would be a start.
@@TheStarBlack i think it would be way more fun if the monarch was a rotating position chosen at random every year. like a village gala but national
if we abolished the monarchy, there would be more taxpayer money to go to the people instead of the royalty's monthly costume party
@@reallifezuzu if we're talking about positive change within the framework of liberal democracy, you would get a lot more tax money from closing loopholes and legally pursuing wealthy tax avoiders. or by dismantling nuclear weapons. the monarchy is chump change.
@@quali-vd3ud yeah i agree. would still be cool though
The British monarchy fandom makes even less sense in Northern Ireland but that's a three hour video essay on its own
please do tell, i have time
I really like your takes, the video styling and edits, and your humor!! I know nothing of royalty but i was entertained the whole vid and it honestly could've been longer ✌️
i had never heard the term "pomp and pageantry" as im not from the uk, but yesterday I opened a magazine getting my hair done for the first time and I see a royals section and there the term was! i was reminded of this video and it made me chuckle a little bit XD
luv me pomp
luv me pagentry
luv me royal family
simple 'as
not to be like a peasant from the French revolution, but it actually shocks me how people will fight nail in the head to defend the monarchy but I've never heard a legitimate reason that has made me think the monarchy compensates with purpose for even half its money that it takes from society. the basis reason to the monarchy is just to keep up a tradition from centuries ago. CENTURIES AGO. it's arguably caused more harm that it has good: thinking about the colonial and imperialist history of the monarchy, and how it still has power of the countries it took advantage of years ago. plus, forcing two random people to consummate when they might not have an romantic or s3xual attraction to each other is just wrong. did we not learn from Marie Antoinette and Louis XVI? people to this day still get confused to why the two kids, who married at 14 and 15 respectively, didn't consummate until 7/8 years of their marriage, when maybe putting two people who didn't grow up with each other and feel pre existing pressure from every adult around them to get in bed. child marriage and children giving b1rth is wrong for any class of people. I know they probably don't do that for the present monarchy, but the history of it is undeniably messed up.
The king is back
the echoed fart at 13:57 gave me a legit laugh
Your Trump impression was horrifyingly spot-on. I lolled.
i would like to learn more about the jars of soil behind you, they seem much more interesting than the monarchy
If Ron Weasley did youtube ♥️🙂
That "pomp and pageantry" pastiche had me in stitches! 🤣
Great video, I enjoyed listening to it. Also, the way your hat matches your mug and compliments your hair at 19:41 looks so nice
I really like the little set design vibe you cobbled together in your intro as well as your overall style! This was a very enjoyable watch, and I am looking forward to going through your prior stuff! Also, no offence, but you're pretty cute ;)
Call-in’s (not callouts) often host the most necessary conversations, so I love seeing them. I really enjoyed seeing this video and your opinion why the royal family ‘isn’t working’ in this Gen Z era. However, I gotta ask: why is the British Family so dedicated to being ugly? There is a literal kpop star who has royal blood, yet it seems no one is getting plastic surgery even though they have exorbitant amounts of money merely because they won birth lottery of being born in a rich royal family. Is this their last effort of reliability with the British public?
To be fair, there was no reason for the palace to give journalists photoshopped pictures of Kate's family
They would make so much money if they opened the palace for tourists
I love the variety of backgrounds we get on this channel
"Although the simplest item in the coronation, the spoon is remarkable given its history and importance..."
I was able to keep a straight face all the way up to "the spoon is remarkable". Thank goodness we United Statesians held onto the English language so that we can share the beauty of such absurdly silly phrases. People say that the U.K. and the U.S. are two countries separated by a common language, but goofy shit like this is what brings us together.
Peace be with you, Joseph Fisher, and always remember, the spoon is remarkable.
nah, the royal family 100% has a massive self-destruct button for all the historic landmarks in britain
if they go, all of britains culture goes with it.
and 80% of india's artefacts
tbf i think we underestimate how much other countries loved the queen, especially in eastern europe i've found. i was on my year abroad when the queen died and i sat w my bulgarian friend going through her instagram stories and literally all of her friends were like "rip your majesty
omg ron weasley uploaded a new video 🤭
The royal get Rich and the poor get poor.
Doesn't matter the tourist.The money goes to the Royal people.The poor is so poor
POMP! PAGEANTRY!
LeT iT bE kNoWn: I am not trying to start an argument etc with my opinion, or downgrade others, because none of us have the time for that online.
I’m a Gen Z who is fond of the monarchy. Granted, I do come from South Africa, which had HEAVY colonisation, so people do find me odd in that instance. However, no one has forgotten about that past where I am from. I suppose I like them quite a bit, mostly due to Kate. She has been my role model for a while, and from my own experience, she is a great one! Additionally, I used to be a very anxious child, but when I began watching royal etiquette videos and teaching myself what I could, said etiquette has helped me hugely when I didn’t know what to do in certain social situations.
Tbh, I’m not involved in talks about the different generations, partially because Gen Z is painted out negatively in most cases and a lot of articles around it are nonsense. Though, I will admit, there is hardly any interest in the RF from Gen Z.
i'm always here for royal hate instant subscribe
It's true, I'm an American and we don't give a fig about the Royal Family
Another brilliant bit of analysis.
This take is particularly amazing, as it’s coming from someone who most definitely is a long, lost Tudor. Pal’s straight up Holbein-worthy!
Great video. As a Gen Xer, I can comprehensively say I don't give a shit about the stupid monarchy. I find their vast wealth obscene.
I’m in the US. I went to my discord group to crack a joke about the queen dying and everyone there was actually mourning her. Like wtf? Why tf should we care?
awesome video agaun! great menes
omg im in love w ur hair
Fuck I hate our country.
As an American (apologies) the weirdest thing is when my family talks about the monarchy with any ounce of respect
@@darkninjafirefoxspread that message, we support it, those of us with common sense
Esp RIshi Sunak and his ilk.
I couldn't stop seeing that Megxit headline as Mex-git... and seeing which rag it was on, the idea of them peddling some casual xenophobia checked out, even if I couldn't imagine what it would be about.
Trish just makes everything better.
I wanna know why there isnt anyone trying to userp the throne andymore.
It’s 100% the buildings and your streets 😂 they are just so different than what I’m used too that it’s fascinating
I think I'm from the wrong part of the UK... I've never heard the phrase Pomp and Pageantry
Absolutely hate that I know about it now
was waiting for ur upload! can't wait for herbie's next vid too
i only saw the thumbnail and thought "CAVETOWN????"
You're so entertaining Joe
You did a good job.I'm proud of you.Make a lot of sense.That's what I was thinking too
Pomp, beauty, valour, fantasy. The monarch’s feels like a brand, it romanticizes a bygone era, it’s a holdfast for nostalgia.
It doesn’t rely on you knowing everything about them, it relies on mystery and presentation. It actually thrived when the public knew very little of them, just like how celebrities in the 90s felt grander than current ones, because now we see everything whether they like it or not and the mystique is crushed. And when we see them try to build Parasocial bonds with the public and try to be relatable we interpret it as inauthentic and pr.
The Parasocial social phenomenon is actually a neutral thing, it’s just in our socialized nature to be inspired by one another and observe. But now we’ve entered our Truman show era...
People like the monarchy in the same juvenile way they like the movie Cinderella. They love a pretty and fashionable woman in pearls and a ball gown dress, and a prince in a waist coat.
Fantasy and vicariously living through those living indulgently.
A faith based system ultimately because of the use of a god justifying their power.
Of course, they’re right and of sound mind in saying divine intervention came fourth and decreed them the ultimate power for eternity. Right, guys? 🙄 But anyone else to use such language would be listed as a schizophrenic with religious delusions.
Sounds to me William the conqueror yapped his way to the top besides the whole scorching the earth and genocide campaigns bit and weaponized religion and the public’s lack of education. Serfs probably were told to be grateful to exist on the holy land of their supreme leader (owner)
If the genesis of any new power came to be in modern times like the monarchy we’d call it a terrifying religious cult.
I get that if we sourced all our histories and the history of those who are in power to this day, we’d likely see some injustice, murder,senseless destruction and greed.
I don’t believe in the whole ‘sins of my father’ concept that anyone that obtained wealth from an amoral ancestor are of the same cruel nature.
I think there’s possibility of those with great power to do great things with it. Create better systems, level out the wealth disparity. But restitutions and fairness is top priority of those still suffering from past harm. we should also not tolerate bad behaviour from members of the royal family just because they’re protected by the power of their forefathers.
this is terribly off topic but I love your hat so much-
on a separate note, yes it really is about damn time that the god-forsaken monarchy is sacked
do that 3 hour essay on the aristocratic elite and how they're on tiktok now.
"it's giving narcissism" the english monarchy is weird, because the english class system is weird. the swedish monarchy isweirder yet, because it's a napoleonite general who was just offered the crown of sweden adn took it and now their royal nighnesses are named ... Benadotte. The norwegian monarchy is NORMAL. The people VOTED to have a monarchym, and was gifted a non-heir son to the danish throne. Because the public chose the king, the church doesn't crown the,, and the current king has never once worn the crown. which is kind of a bummer for most kids. lets be honest. at this point monarchy has outstayed its welcome, but maybe it is cheaper than voting in a new president every now and then? it just kind of feels like elder abuse
7:48 Speaking as a Commonwealth citizen: don't worry. Nobody outside of the UK cares or even remembers about the Commonwealth outside of a very specific subset of Australian boomers who haven't set foot in the UK since Diana was alive. Most people were barely even aware of the whole Brexit debate until after it happened.
"Where is Kate !"😅
Im leading a movement to remove Canada from the Commonwealth and replace the king with Celine Dion.
8:45 haha you sound like Jaken from Inuyasha
Thanks!
When i heard the queen died i just kinda went, "oh dear, the queen is dead" and moved on with my life. Sure it's sad for her family and everything but she's just a person. Kinda like if you read in the newspaper that some random person in your town died, you feel bad for their family but you didn't know them so you don't really care too much.
As someone with some irish heritage your king dying in agony because of his antique belief is amazing.
So, United States-ian’s perspective. I have yet to go to the Britain, but I happen to know a fair amount about British history, like going back to the 1100 (note, I like all history, not just British/UK but that’s what this particular video is about). The royal family, especially once they lost pretty much all law making powers, have always fascinated me - it’s like the most expensive pizza party ever that your boss gives you when you really wanted was a raise. It’s very wild to watch, especially when tied up in the “divine right to rule”. However, let’s say that the monarchy was abolished today, there is some much British history in that country that does not revolve around Buckingham Palace, that you would absolutely still get tourists. I think that’s such a crap take that the monarchy has to be a tax burden on the people so people can like, wait for hours to see a royal person. Like, nah. It’s takes 14 hours to get to the UK, I’m not standing around for hours to maybe see a person. Vacation time sucks in the US - time is limited 😂
did you forget the word "american?"
Honestly, I never got the tourism argument. They don't need to exist for tourists to still come and pay to see royal sht. Even if that argument was valid (which it isn't to anyone who thinks about it for more than two seconds) the money they supposedly bring in is vastly insignificant compared to how much they cost the country each year in tax payer money. They should just abdecate, no bloodshed needed.