The dialogue is horrible. I do like the design, but in my personal opinion, Galadriel is poorly written. That is nothing against the actress; that is just the show writers who seem to want to try too hard to sound like Tolkien. If they were trying to be completely original, it would probably be a whole lot better. You can write a story based on Tolkien and still be original. I don’t know what they’re afraid of.
"Why is Peter Parker being portrayed as a loser? Because hes a straight white male?" Peter Parker has ALWAYS been a loser. That's his entire character. Has this guy ever read a comic book?
There are too many Tubers that jump on leaning into political nonsense, because for some weird reason (🪆🇷🇺💰?) being overly invested in fighting "woke" culture pays more than just giving a fair, well balanced, well adjusted honest criticism. Normal well adjusted people don't get so worked up over nothing.
that bit about being legally required to explain it to your mum is actually a brilliant idea. These outrage vendors live in an echo chamber and as a result they rarely get the perspective of how insane they look to normal people
I didnt even like season 1 but the criticism by these "anti-woke" idiots is totally overblown and it is so dumb, i think there are a lot of legitimate criticisms of the show that people dont even talk about
I've heard people who don't witter on about what's supposedly 'woke' just say it's very boring? Is it worth trying? I have a very low threshold for boredom with fantasy and sci fi
Woke is such a bizarre catch all term. Yes, there is some diverse casting. Yes, there are female POV characters. But at its core it is quite a religious show about good versus evil. It has no sex, no queerness, and a few minor chaste romantic plots. The show is very popular in countries that are very conservative in their values.
It's bloody woke. Orcs have families and ask to not go to war. 😂 only idiotic woke leftists could come up with something like this. And the girl bosses, and diversity were there shouldn't be any...it's woke crap
Funnily enough, when the films were first coming out there actually was significant backlash about Arwen having a bigger role. So the more things change the more they stay the same I guess.
It's not as good as the people who like it seem to think it is, and it's not as bad as the people who hate it seem to think it is. If internet discourse wasn't so weirdly political right now we'd all agree it's fine as long as you turn your brain off before you start watching and we'd leave it at that.
I know the sister of the actress who plays Galadriel (Morfydd Clark, she's from Cardiff see boyo) and the ammount of abuse the actors got online is honestly disgusting.
It's so fucked too cause it's not like these actors have given poor performances, Morfydd is a great Galadriel and I couldnt be prouder that a welsh person was portraying her
@@livingdreams9913The only criticism I have of Morfydd is she’s a little stiff sometimes but honestly that’s probably directing and Galadriel is kinda going through it this season. When in doubt it’s not the actor, it’s the director/dialogue. Regardless, the harassment is awful EVEN IF SHE WAS A BAD ACTRESS WHICH SHE ISNT.
Mr. Plinkett jumpscare 💀 I wanted to like this show, I just never got into it like the PJ trilogy. I'm glad they made it into a show, but it's just not for me. Also I wish these grifters wouldn't try and dress their """anti woke""" stuff in the cloak of actually caring about the original material. I KNOW these MFs didn't give a crap about Celebrimbor before this ALSO also I'm glad Morfydd Clark is getting more recognition, I've been obsessed with her since Saint Maud.
I really wanted to like this show, especially with all the ridiculous hate it was getting before it was even released. Then I watched it, and as much as I didn’t want to, I really did just find it…boring. It didn’t capture either the grand, majestic scale or the whimsical charm that I want when I journey to Middle Earth. I didn’t particularly care about most of the characters. I was happy for those who enjoyed it, but my reaction was just “oh, that was kind of dull and disappointing.” As far as I’m concerned, and as it is with many of these rebooted/remade corporate products, I don’t see how a strong, angry reaction can be anything other than an anti-woke grift.
It’s such a difficult time to just enjoy the geeky things I’ve always loved as a non-white non-straight dude. The most racist and bigoted comments and ideology I’ve ever seen have come from Star Wars fans, Marvel fans, DC fans, anything geeky. Even ignoring it takes a lot of energy.
Bla bla bla, everything is racist for certain people. The show is actually dumb it misinterprets everything Tolkien meant with his writings and elves weren't black. Cope
I haven’t watched the show myself, but I really, REALLY appreciate this video, it’s like a breath of fresh air. Even if this show objectively sucks, that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t exist. There is nothing that warrants these extreme responses, it’s just a TV show. Jesus. xD And honestly, I don’t think most of these people are even that mad, they just want views and it’s really pathetic. It feels like in general, media is either overhyped or overhated and like you said - why can’t we just be normal about things anymore? Why can’t you just be a casual fan of something? Also, even though this video wasn’t about the Hobbit, I feel like it applies to it. People talk about the Hobbit movies like they’re the worst pieces of cinema ever made and that’s just not true. I enjoyed all of them! There’s a lot of genuine criticism toward them, sure, but they aren’t abominations.
Every few months I'll forget he exists only for him to come screeching back into my life and take a small but not insignificant piece of my faith in humanity with him
Theres barely any live action fantasy shows left and even if the show isnt faithful to the source it still doesnt look as bad as the handful of bandwagon fantasy shows that came out in the wake of GoT becoming a hit. I can appreciate the show for what it is.
Thanks for this! I've been so horrified by the hate storms around genre media and genuinely fearful for casts and creators. It's time to stand up to the bizarre religiosity around genre media and let people enjoy it for what it is.
"Women and coloured people are not being treated like sh*t! Gasp, my immersion... nooooo" I'm not sure if elves, giants, sorcerers, and dwarves are an actual species on Earth, in our history where we didn't have a bunch of fantasy lads and lasses running about with a ring. Saying it isn't accurate to history is wild.
Thanks for being sane. I'm an LOTR fan (been reading the books) and there's a lot the Rings of Power show gets right almost as much as they change details or get wrong (of which there is a difference). I've also noticed that every time a woman is portrayed as competent in fighting is instantly labelled by these nonces as a girlboss or mary sue when literally 80% of their favourite fiction boys possess those exact same traits. The actors and actresses are also SUCH AMAZING PERFORMERS HOLY SHIT. Especially this season.
I was about to quit UA-cam for real until I came across this. I watched a couple of vids saying how awful Rings of Power was, didn't watch the show, then my kid started watching it with her dad and they loved it? It's entertaining and nice to look at? And the people hating on it get money for hating it. What's crazy is the algorithm just keeps showing me all the hate. Over and over and over.
Thank you! I have been feeling the same way about this show since it started! The idiotic level of bullshit leveled at the show has been insane. I have found the show decent to good though I haven't finished season 2.
Glad to know there's a fellow enjoyer of the show out there who finds all the discourse exhausting and flat-out bizarre. It's one thing to admit that there are moments here and there that feel clumsy, or places where the show needed to find its footing, but I'll be damned if this isn't just a total case of people "deciding to hate something" and then searching every frame for whatever they can possibly hate. Season 1 was solid enough, but Season 2 was a huge improvement! I'm just grateful so much of it exists in the first place-especially some of the score/original songs, getting to see places and worlds like Númenor and Khazad Dûm, excellent original characters like Adar, and truly stunningly good adaptation like everything with Sauron/Celebrimbor. That makes it all worth celebrating, to me!
Right there with you! I feel so bad for the creators - everyone from the tech people to the actors to the writers - to have to deal with all this hate. I enjoy the show, see it for what it is and am fearful that so many fanatical haters exist.
Thanks! I'm very spooked by the level of vitriol thrown at creators and think it is only a matter of time before one of them gets hurt. I like the show for what it is, and I believe that many people who do are too fearful of backlash and/or bullying to say so. It's fine if you don't like it but no one should approve of the fanatical hate that has swirls around genre media.
thanks for talking about this!! i love trop and everyone is so miserable about it largely for sexist and/or racist reasons. season 2 was a big step up too imo
I'm a Tolkien fanatic, I've read the books, the slim, the unfinished tales, tales of middle earth, all of them, and i still really like the rings of power. It's fun and I think it's a good thing that more people can be introduced to Tolkien's world. I've always lived it and I hope a new generation of folks can too
Seeing this pop up in my subscription feed won Mr Joseph Fisher my respect until the end of time, it's literally not that bad, I can't keep having the same conversation about this show in every tolkien community I inhabit
Try finding a lord of the rings audiobook. There are some that sing the poems and play background noises and music. (I have horrible ADHD and this got me through the Tom Bombadil chapters)
I have no problem with different races representing these mythical characters! The only thing that bothered me was that some of the elves didn’t really have those regal elven features that I think makes them elves. For example I think Arondir and Galadriel totally looked like elves but Mirdania and some of the background elves just looked like normal people with pointy ears.
I am of two minds on this. On the one hand, I totally agree, and I giggle whenever I see a normal looking dude amongst the Elves- but also, I am an Elf hater for life, and I kind of like the idea that the famed beauty of them is just classic Elf supremacy and Elven pride & arrogance coloring the narrative, and they're actually just mostly normal looking.
I haven't even watched this yet but thank you. I'm so sick of this click-baity negativity everywhere just for the sake of hating something. (Imo there's plenty one can not agree with in the show or think could have been done better but there's also plenty to like and it's just NOT THAT SERIOUS.)
It is a boring slow paced show, that somehow takes itself way too serious and not seriousenough to actually make decent costumes. And god the pseudo intellectual dialogue. Every simile and metaphor is painful as fuck
It's so funny some people have forgotten that you can choose to not watch something if you hate it 🤷🏻♀️ it's not for you, go elsewhere, you don't need to tell everyone it's terrible..... apart from it makes a ton of money to do so. Be normal is such good advice 🤣
You can also choose to criticize it. There’s nothing wrong with criticizing a show. How would writers and show runners even know what to improve on or how certain added elements are being received by fans if nobody discussed shows unless they liked it? I’m not sure what’s up with this new generation and new trend of trying to silence people who disagree with you. There’s nothing wrong with having discourse on why a show/book/game/movie or whatever is good or bad. People only talk about it because they care about these properties. You’re basically saying that unless you are giving something praise, you shouldn’t say anything. I’m a black woman so this has nothing to do with me hating black people or being white or “alt right.” I’m just a normal person who doesn’t get bothered by someone dragging something I like.
I got caught in the grift when it first came out/was announced, glad I stepped away from that side of youtube. I still dont like the show - but not for the same reasons as anti-woke grifters, their reasons are so surface level and need to be separated from the wider context of both the show itself and the production process to even make sense in their minds. A lot of it comes off as nitpicky gripes used to push a conservative culture war narrative. Anyway; if you like the show, good on ya :)
My head canon is that since this is set thousands of years before the Lord of the Rings this is Galadriel when she was young and rowdy and she had a growth spurt after retiring
It's a endemic of the modern age that I've seen time and time again. The sheep hear something is bad, and baaaaaaa they agree. I ask which bit is bad, and they're like "you think I'm watching this shit?!" Meanwhile, I'm seriously enjoying watching this guy deceive everyone with sweet tasting lies before going back to his freakish emotionless face when people aren't around. Also, please 27:17
The thing I see for every show the internet hivemind decides must be hated is "bad dialogue", and it's really bizarre to me because in every instance I can think of it's absolutely fine!
I think the show gets such hard criticism because they always stated it's the most expensive show ever made, so that made people have super high expectations. Personally I don't care abot what color of skin or how tall the characters are, but I can't deny that many of them are just unlikable to me. Since the very first scene, I felt Galadriel didn't care at all about his little army when she was searching for Sauron, all her interactions with other characters were just manipulative and angsty, she made the biggest mistake of not telling everyone who Sauron was as soon as she knew and she never has repercussions about her poor choices. The passing of the time is very unclear, we can see characters being in one place, and then the next scene they are already in another one, same clothes and everything, but in a place that supposedly should take weeks to reach. This happens so many times it's really confusing. I felt some scenes were way too quick, they build up the Balrog for two seasons and it was on screen for a total of 3 minutes, being forgotten by everyone as soon as the cave collapsed. I'm making just one example but there are really so many it would take me forever to list them all. I'm not the biggest fan of the lord of the rings movies, and I didn't read the books. To me it's just not a very good series. That said, when I watch a video where all their criticisms are about how white the elfs and dwarves should be, I close it at the speed of light, that's just stupid You made a great video and I'm glad you are enjoying the series :)
You said it all.. they scream and spit because that's their job and what pays their bills... i bet that if that bald guy makes a video talking calmly about he same subject, it will be his less viewed video ever and he will be called a fraud. Because he depends so much on the rage bull persona for his content... and paying the bills.... If you don't enjoy the series don't watch it.. and let others enjoy it without screaming in their ears about elf hair size....
I have enjoyed the show. Yeah, some of the dialogue is cringe, a few camera shots here and there are meh. Overall, though I have enjoyed every episode. That being said, I am not one of those people that have to go online and get influenced by other people's opinions on shows and media.
There's a lot to be said about modern day fandom discourse about media, and how it's almost always negative and applying US-centric, modern day morals to fiction and fictional characters. People who pride themselves to have media literacy (quite wrongly in many cases) but fail to grasp the media in its context. Also why is it usually negative? Sometimes you just want to enjoy something, you know? It's not all srsbzns, it's fictional media. I'd say you're perfect to make a video on it but I value your mental health, so.
@@itcouldbelupus2842 yeah they need a life. Show had bigger issues, digital production made it look cheaper then the LOTR even with triple the budget. Characters would not say are engaging enough to carry a show and it certainly didn’t have a plot you could tell soemone in an elevator which you can 100% do for LOTR.
There's a few reviews (that were a bit negative) that I kinda liked which were a bit more meme-y and I liked them for the funny memes that didn't take themselves too seriously, but overall the backlash to the show was extremely harsh and at times definitely unwarranted (especially the "woke" stuff). I can understand though if people didn't like it and that's ok - what's not ok is the harassment the cast has received because of it. Personally I think the scenery and some of the acting was really really good. The music especially I think deserves a lot of praise, it brought me back to the OG movies and just felt very LotR (barring that one orc song outro that I didn't really care for xD). That said, the writing was a bit....meh, the pacing slow at parts and some characters I did not care for at all. Galadriel (especially in the first season) felt written like a moody teen girl and grated on me - which is not the actress's fault, she did the best with what she was given and all the hate she's getting is just awful. Just because I didn't care for some of the characters the way they were written, doesn't mean I should go and harass them. Some story lines were better than others for sure: I really liked anything to do with the dwarves where most of the Numenor and harfoot parts left me a bit bored (which is a shame, I really liked the main cast of the Numenor part and enjoyed the visuals a lot!). Anyway, I'll still keep watching because any excuse to listen to the music and see beautiful scenery is good enough for me haha
13:11 I really like the way you worded this. I'm a huge Tolkien fan and took this show for what it is: entertainment. It's not that deep. In this hellscape timeline we live in, let me enjoy oNE THING. I thought the acting was great, the enthusiasm from the crew and cast was great. Do I think it's the best thing ever? Absolutely not. Critical thinking and media literacy has literally died (no she's meditating guys). Anyway, thank you for another banger. (ps I found your channel because of your gnome video and I'm so glad I did!)
also PSA: there IS racism in lotr. elves dont like dwarves, dwarves dont like orcs, hobbits dont like men. middle earth does not function like actual earth. one person tried to say it would look weird if they made a film about ancient china and put black people in it, but uhhhh🤔 china is a real place?????..... middle earth is not..... our race politics would not be the same.
When the Jackson trilogy came out, people DID complain about Arwen and the other creative choices made. Jackson just handled the complaints like a champ and kept it moving.
I have to disagree. As a black woman, I can’t stand when they sprinkle black people in at random into medieval European fantasy settings. It’s so damn distracting because instead of focusing on the story, I start wondering how this mixed population came about. Because shows like this usually provide zero explanation. The more I think about how the population came about, the less it makes sense. Even if you discount racism and just pretend racism isn’t a factor in this world, it still doesn’t make sense because after several generations of mixing, they would all be one race. In the 1990s the comedian Martin Lawrence did a movie where he was a black knight in a medieval world AS A JOKE, and now Hollywood is doing that for real and all the time! The Lord of Rings was not racist and was fine having all white people in it because it made sense for that world. Why does every setting have to look like downtown LA in 2024? It destroys the escapism. Most black people I talk to can’t stand it but white liberals are always defending it and I don’t know why. We never asked for this and I’m fine being left out of these stories.
That's true the writers should've been more creative and added additional lore like these dwarfs are black because they were the long lost tribe of the south and has once again made contact with the rest of the dwarves. Or something like that! It would make sense, right?
If people don’t understand what I mean…I also wanted to provide an example to help you understand. Pretend they did a story about fantasy ancient China and that 25% of the characters in that story were black. Also pretend that the population is never explained in that story. Pretend you just press play on the movie and that suddenly there are black characters walking around everywhere in this ancient fantasy China location. It would be so jarring to see that, would it not?Exactly. Well, the same consideration should be given to European settings. It’s no different. It is also weird because writers are just removing racism artificially from the world. They’re pretending race relations isn’t a thing which makes it an awkward experience and kinda insulting. Race not being a factor is just not believable because it is 100% normal for civilians of a world to reject or not like foreigners migrating in, even when those foreigners are white. So it’s just hard for me to believe that Middle-Earth would not only accept foreigners with no problems but black ones at that! 😂 Stop trying to play in our faces, Hollywood ! Boromir is probably rolling around in his damn grave watching these n*ggas in Middle-Earth! 😂 I’m just kidding but you get the point. And if the Rings of Power show runners are not trying to imply that the black people migrated in, and that they’ve already been in Middle-Earth since the beginning of recorded history, then that just creates an even BIGGER mess because like I said before, they should all be one homogeneous race if that’s the case because they would be mating and mixing with each other after multiple generations since racism doesn’t exist. Last I would like to add that people are assuming everyone who hates this type of stuff are “white alt right racists” when many people have an issue with it but are just silent because they don’t want to be accused of being a bigot. Even though these writers may have good intent and their heart might be in the right place, we know black people are only being added to these type of stories for politics, diversity and inclusion, and not for the story so it kinda feels like charity and is kinda insulting low key. I wish they would just get back to hiring creative geniuses and not activists. It is destroying film in my humble opinion.
@@54032ZepolRight. I genuinely wouldn’t mind if they had all black dwarves or something like that. That would actually make sense and wouldn’t even need explaining honestly. But the mixed populations for every race/species make little sense because that’s not how population growth works. I try to give stories like this a chance but then it becomes difficult because world building is very important to me in film. It’s hard to stay focused on a story when the world has fallen apart for you within the first 5 minutes of the film. I’ve found it very hard to escape lately and it’s just a bit frustrating because as a film lover and someone who has been through a lot, I used to watch film to escape from the stresses of life. Now I can’t do that because Hollywood feels like it has to make everything look like modern day America to match their ideologies. Even when I’m trying to give it my best effort to enjoy a show like this, in the back of my mind I’m thinking about how the world building and populations make no damn sense. I noticed that when we have cultural issues in our world like homophobia or racism, we tend to OVERcorrect problems. We always adjust things too much and create new problems by trying to eliminate the old ones like lack of diversity in film. And I would actually argue that Hollywood was ALREADY diverse and has been since the damn 80s! I’m so surprised that people don’t think movies and shows were already diverse. Black people make up only 13% of the US population but we make up like 50% of the cast in most big productions. The same goes for black people in the music industry. Lack of diversity in film seriously feels like a manufactured issue and not something based on actual facts and statistics. There are several problems with Hollywood but few black people in movies and shows wasn’t one of them I’m afraid.
there IS racism in lotr. elves dont like dwarves, dwarves dont like orcs, hobbits dont like men. middle earth does not function like actual earth. china is a real place?????..... middle earth is not.....
Those ranting and raving and being racist mysoginistic morons can't watch with their friends because you need friends to watch it with in the first place. I love lord of the rings, and the original films were great, but aside from that Eowyn who just pines over Aragorn most of the time being a badarse, it was lacking in strong female characters.
Counterpoint: some of us are diehard Tolkien fans, but simply didn't enjoy the show bc the vibes just weren't there for us 😭 I tried to watch it, but I just never had fun or enjoyed it. I hated the elf haircuts (& the twigs n crap in the hobbits' hair), I don’t know why the elves were bullying each other as kids but that aint right, Elrond didn't look like Elrond, the whole "ooooh is this weird old dude kickin it w the hobbits Gandalf or Sauron?" felt like I was watching Dora the Explorer ask me whether a banana was yellow or blue... idk, it just never clicked or felt fun or even real. For some reason it just felt artificial. ONLY bit I enjoyed of what I saw was Disa + Durin, Disa was the absolute highlight and came damn near to redeeming the show, but I just couldn't sit thru that many hours just being depressed that the elves look and act like stinky humans bc they're mean girls w/ short hair 😭 I have no ill will towards people who do enjoy it, it just didn't click for me is all, and I think that apathy is a huge reason it sort of flopped compared to the expectations leading up to release. We just aren't vocal about it like the weirdo racists were, it's not like all Tolkien fans who don’t like the show are those sad excuses for "fans"... a lot of us just didn't like it for subjective reasons/vibes, same as any other TV show. For peak Tolkien adaptation/spiritual successor, I'd recommend Leonard Nimoy's "The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins" ua-cam.com/video/V3fZhJN4Tdc/v-deo.htmlsi=ViKZNIxFzpsXPI0a
1) They're not Hobbits lmao 2) All Elves having long hair was something Peter Jackson came up with 3) Elves literally had a whole kinslaying event and like fifty wars because they are racist to each other endlessly in the Silm, a lil bullying isn't out of character
@@noellethomas2589 God forbid I refer to proto-hobbits, ancestral hobbits, hobbit precursors, whatever you want them to be termed, as "hobbits" for simplicity's sake (on a comment where I proceeded to recommend grainy footage of a silly song from the 60s as "peak Tolkien") 🙄 it's not that serious, & nitpicking terminology doesn't mean anything to the opinion I expressed on them I'm sorry to say it, but elves having long hair was _not_ something that Peter Jackson came up with. Overwhelmingly, when Tolkien described characters' hair, it was long. Elves had long hair. Men had long hair. Dwarves had long hair. IIRC, even the balrog & the ringwraiths had long hair. Long hair _was_ the norm. There are single-digit exceptions, like when Luthien cut her hair, or Eowyn cut hers. Both of them _had_ long hair in the first place to be able to cut it all off for a significant reason. If you really want to get into it, this ties into medieval perceptions of hair & its significance. But to be frank, even if it _was_ something that Peter Jackson made up, I still wouldn't like the short hair. My argument was not about canonical hair length as written by Tolkien, it was a _subjective_ opinion: that it was ugly and I didn't like it! Which he even _agrees with in the video_ - it's not that unpopular an opinion. And again, my issue was with elf children acting like absolute cruel little brats, not with adult elves being assholes. I don't think the _children_ were supposed to act like that, but again. Subjective 🤷♀
@@subjectdelta44 “All the Eldar had beautiful hair (and were especially attracted by hair of exceptional loveliness), but the Ñoldor were not specially remarkable in this respect, and there is no reference to Finwë as having had hair of exceptional length, abundance or beauty beyond the measure of his people.” (HoME XII, The Shibboleth of Fëanor, p. 340-341) Individual characters are described as having long hair. There is no group/race that is described as all having long hair
@@noellethomas2589 And yet, nothing about that excerpt states that all elves have short hair? That excerpt does _absolutely nothing_ for your argument. All it states is Finwë had _average length hair_ for his people. It does not state his hair or his people's hair is short, nor does it say it's long. And if you'll go back and check, my last comment clearly stated that Tolkien's descriptions were of _characters_ - so your last two sentences only restated my own. The difference here is that when I read many individual character descriptions and they *all* have long hair, with the only few exceptions being when it was previously long and cut short for an important reason, I find it reasonable to believe that long hair was the baseline/normal length.Yours, for some reason, is to assume that everybody else on Middle Earth actually had the same haircut as Chris Pratt. And again: _I do not CARE where "elves have long hair" came from, my subjective opinion was that short hair does not look good on them and I didn't like that choice from the show producers._ This is the issue you are choosing to blow way out of proportion. With all due respect, you really oughta chill out a little bit. Idk why you feel the need to prove that elves walk around looking like the average accountant, when again it had nothing to do w my original issue, but I promise you that there's no textual evidence you can find that will prove that, and it is NOT THAT SERIOUS 😭 try going for a walk and listening to the ballad of Bilbo Baggins. Might make you feel better
Babe, shut up Joseph Fisher uploaded a new video 🫡 In seriousness though, this lines up exactly with how I felt about the acolyte. After constantly seeing the hate I decided to try it. Was it a perfect show? No but it was fun and interesting. People please me normal.
I actually really liked the acolyte. I’m not really interested in stories about main characters like Han, Luke or Rey- I want to experience the world. The acolyte gave me an outside story that I didn’t know. It was fun and that’s what mattered.
@@XuiLeeEv dude that fight scene in the middle of the season was actually one of the best in star wars, especially the willingness to kill a certain character. Actually so sad that we won’t get anymore because so many people never saw it because of the loud minority. I have a feeling that people will realize it was good eventually.
I'm so glad you enjoyed the show. I personally didn't enjoy it that much, but I'm also a lot older than you, and I think that plays into it quite a bit. I feel that very few things can hold up to the original trilogy because of when I watched it and the influence it had on me, the same thing goes for the Star Wars movies. I wish I could watch the new series and movies without comparing them to the originals, but I just can't. Love your content!
Idk, I think The Acolyte was canceled because it wasn’t very good. And look, I was looking forward to that series because it was marketed as a pre-Lucas-era/Skywalker-saga Star Wars story, and then I was even more excited for it when I learned that they cast Abigail Thorne, AND I got even more excited when I learned Carrie-Anne Moss was in it! (I wasn’t paying that much attention to the hype, so I learned about Abby well before I learned about Carrie-Anne because I am more plugged into the news about leftist UA-camrs than I am about the hype, love, and hate for Disney owned IP.) So, I watched it and it was just okay. Spoilers from here on out! Carrie-Anne Moss was great, but she is killed immediately and the whole story revolves around solving her murder. And her appearance and immediate exit from the series just feels cheap. Yes, she does show up in a few flashbacks but come on, why are you casting Matrix Mommy in your StarWars show? The Matrix and The Phantom Menace came out the same year but only one of them redefined sci-fi films for a generation, while the other one just kinda coasted on its legacy, and the massive budget that that legacy afforded. And then Abby shows up in episode 3. She has 3 lines, delivered very stiffly, and then the story moves away from any context where she might appear again. (And I know people have been roasting Abby recently for her appearance in House of the Dragon, but I don’t think the stiff delivery is her fault at all. I’m from Southern California, and I’ve known a few Hollywood, fart huffing pricks, AND at least 1 has-been and a couple of “never-will-be’s.” If you think a Hollywood production is gonna stop and let what they consider to be a cameo from a “lesser media,” a studio stunt casting, or just a gloried extra, try several takes, you know nothing about how the studio system works.) They didn’t give her much to do, and the result was fucking boring. Outside of the interesting cast, the story was just kinda boring.
I think things cancelled because someone with an Executive title decided they personally wanted to cancel it. People are always looking for these highly scientific reasons why things happen, things happen because people in high places make decisions, that's all it boils down to. They don't care if it was good, they don't care about the writing, the performers, all they care about it how does it serve them, does it make them money or not, does it fit an agenda they like. We see this with Netflix all the time, shows with a loyal audience that are well regarded by critics and audiences alike are cancelled because they aren't bringing in the numbers. It's all down to that, honestly.
@@lloroshastar6347 people in high places often make decisions for a reason though. And sometimes the reason is simply because they personally didn’t like it, and sometimes the reason is weird tax stuff. But very often the reason for canceling a show is that it’s not getting the views that the studio thought it would.
I hate the anti woke 'critics' so much they skew the perception of media so much it's annoying. Funny thing is there are genuine criticisms to be made about this show but they get buried under the mountains of anti woke hate. Same goes for other shows like The Acolyte. The funny thing is, they watch every episode of this show they claim to hate, drawing attention to it and give their money to the showmakers they dislike so much. Hell, there's an entire subreddit for hating on this show. Why not spend time and money on something you like instead? I really don't like netflix's avatar, I think it is an affront to the original. So I just chose not to watch it, simple as that.
superfans are scary because they just sweep you in in their absoloute insanity with how close something is to the source text or if somebody views a different character in a different light. when i was younger i loved harry potter and when your young you just think its normal when it really isnt 😭😭
I'm a big fan of Tolkien and I like the Rings of Power quite a bit. It has a lot of stuff I don't like but also a lot of stuff I like. Things just can't be decent anymore - they have to be either flawless or garbage.
Your critique of the critics is fair, they're attacking it for stupid reasons. But I still can't see what there is in the show to make it worth watching in itself. I suppose it could be something to chat over when you have friends round. A lot of TV is like that now. Ambient.
Treating any show as background noise means you will always consider it as such because you're missing so much, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. I've been putting my phone down to watch this show and have found it very enjoyable television, as has everyone I know in real life who watches it. If I hadn't been paying attention though I'm sure I'd have a lower opinion of it.
I did not like the show's first season because: 1. I don't like TV series in general. I feel like this type of storytelling is a massive waste of time (for me personally, please don't get offended, anyone). I have no problem if other people find joy in these. It's fine. 2. The way it was written was just not vibing with me. I didn't see the payoffs to certain situations. I did not like a few main characters and this made me disassociate with the story completely. I do agree with you on the anti-woke youtubers however. I think they will hate everything that comes out with a few exceptions because this is just the way they make money and attract views. Its a business, its making bread, and paying taxes and rent, and it's ugly. I can thank Rings of Power, however, for opening my eyes about that. When I watched the first season I had my arguments for why I don't want to continue watching and they were completely different from what these guys were yelling to me from the screen. One by one they just disappeared from my UA-cam algorithm. Now I can see guys like you, with much more nuanced perspectives on topics or actual arguments for real problems. Cheers.
I really enjoyed the series. Thought the casting was mostly superb. Preferred this portrayal of the Dwarves and Elves. A little bit more subtle. I felt Peter Jackson's version of the dwarves is a bit more Terry Pratchett. Anyway glad to hear a positive voice on this. Thanks
The anti-woke people ruin REAL criticism and conversation around media. To them, it’s all about aesthetics and decoration, they ignore the substance and story telling. It’s really annoying when you wanna critique something and all anyone talks about is how they’re black people or women, or someone sexual orientation in it and it’s like wtf… do you have any REAL criticism or feedback? Ugh, I hate it
I'd say watch The Little Platoons videos (there's 3) they're super long and go beat by beat. His anger seems genuine, it's not over the top and he justifies his reasons.
I think the overall backlash Rings of Power has reminds me of why, as an artist myself, I like to think back to Anton Ego's review in Ratatouille: _"But the bitter truth we critics must face, is that in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it so."_ Don't get me wrong. Show is not perfect. Nothing is. Perfection would be boring. But really, at worst, it gets stagnant at points, and at best, it has some pretty solid stuff to say about certain perspectives on Tolkien's lore. I'd much rather see some new people try newer takes on classics from differing perspectives than another grey live-action Disney remake, that's for sure. Like, if anybody here still thinks Rings of Power is an absolute abomination to its source material, go see the first two Alien movies, then see Aliens vs. Predator Requiem. THAT movie will give you something to cry about! PS - I wonder if the people who deduct points from Rings of Power for not being wholey accurate to the source material have ever seen the 1953 cinematic adaptation of War of the Worlds produced by George Pal. Wells in the original novel describes the Martian tripods in good detail making sure to describe the odd metallic tentacles potruding from below, the heat ray coming out from some sort of flexible arm, the rooflike tops, and their ability to fire canisters of black smoke. In the 1953 cinematic adaptation they're not even tripods. They're hovercrafts shaped like mantarays with cobra arms portruding from the top, and their secondary weapon has been completely changed to some sort of anti-matter green laser that fires from the arms of the main body. And that's just the Martian warmachines. Wait until you see how the odd gooey Simon game faced aliens are nothing like the bear-sized octopus-like Martians with V-shaped beaks, sixteen tentacles, black beady eyes, bulbous heads, and they use machinery to drink the blood of humans.
Two words : misogyny, racism. This fanbase was always made of a lot of people like these. The show is not as breathtaking as the films but it would be more beloved if it wasn't for that anti woke mentality that really is just far more whiny in itself than *they* accuse wokeness of being lmao.
i don't think that's fair to say not everyone who love's the lotr are "like this" i think we just want a well adapted show lmao yes there's alot of people who complain about it being "woke" i also don't think it helps you grouping all lotr fans as misogynistic and racist.....and not that it matters but im a female and a poc..... lmao
@@hiigara2085 Well it depends on why you hate the show actually. Because if your reasons for hating the show are genuinely racist and misogynist then that's an accurate description, even if you don't want to be called that. You don't get to decide that you aren't that just because you say so, it's entirely decided by the content of your character and your critique.
I literally only started watching it because the vitriol online was so loud and constant, I had to see what was 'the worst show ever'. I found it strangely fun and enjoyable - certainly a few silly moments, but the original movies had silly moments too. I'm looking at you, Legolas sliding down a staircase on a shield shooting a bow and arrow and Gollum... like most of gollum lol. But compared to most shows these days the quality is pretty good - writing seems decent, characters all sound like they belong in the universe, there are no weird modern day speakers (the Willow reboot had actors that sounded like they were on modern day tiktok, I couldn't even get through the first episode). The people losing their mind over this show being 'bad' would have loved this show if it had come out exactly the same as-is but back in 2012. They've gaslit themselves into hating content that they would have adored, but their heads are so far up their own asses they can't see it. It's wild, honestly. As someone that's been into Fantasy-everything since like 1980, I've seen a lot of good and a lot of schlock; bad fantasy is certainly out there, but Rings of Power isn't it. Plot's understandable, sets and CGI is good, costumes look nice, settings are beautiful ~ it honestly ticks most of the boxes for a good fantasy show. The only reason you wouldn't like it is if you're bringing in modern-day nonsense in your own head and deciding to be angry about it - or that one scene with Disa and the bats, which I kinda thought was very silly, but that's one scene in two seasons of show - I think that's pretty good. I enjoyed the Witcher at first but even that show had a much more discoordinated look/costuming/CGI/nonsensical lore, in spite of having plenty of support. Clearly making an A+ fantasy tv show isn't easy peasy lemon squeezy, even GOT shat the bed with the last season.
The show has one true problem, it's not fun. ROP is the most boring of all the LOTR movies and that's it's biggest problem. Fans will forgive anything as long as the movie was a fun watch.
I have never seen a positive video that covered this show. So I decided to do it myself.
You are on fire two in month👊🧨
Braver than any us marine etc etc thank you for your service
The dialogue is horrible. I do like the design, but in my personal opinion, Galadriel is poorly written. That is nothing against the actress; that is just the show writers who seem to want to try too hard to sound like Tolkien. If they were trying to be completely original, it would probably be a whole lot better. You can write a story based on Tolkien and still be original. I don’t know what they’re afraid of.
Thank you!
Good
"Why is Peter Parker being portrayed as a loser? Because hes a straight white male?"
Peter Parker has ALWAYS been a loser. That's his entire character. Has this guy ever read a comic book?
I don't remember Tolkien signing off on any comic books.
It's not even the same Peter Parker in that shot. It's a parallel universe variant that had his life not work out.
@@prince13896It doesn’t seem like he has but that’s not related to the mention of Peter Parker in this video.
I blocked Critical Drinker from my feed a long time ago and I'm a happier, more well rounded person as a result. The man's an absolute balloon.
He should put the drink down
His drink of choice is probably gasoline
Me, too! 😁
Euuuuugh I can't stand him, ramps up his accent and sounds like he's talking in a wind tunnel
There are too many Tubers that jump on leaning into political nonsense, because for some weird reason (🪆🇷🇺💰?) being overly invested in fighting "woke" culture pays more than just giving a fair, well balanced, well adjusted honest criticism.
Normal well adjusted people don't get so worked up over nothing.
that bit about being legally required to explain it to your mum is actually a brilliant idea. These outrage vendors live in an echo chamber and as a result they rarely get the perspective of how insane they look to normal people
I didnt even like season 1 but the criticism by these "anti-woke" idiots is totally overblown and it is so dumb, i think there are a lot of legitimate criticisms of the show that people dont even talk about
If the producers want to find that constructive criticism, they are gunna have to sort through some much fucking chaff omg
yeah like, it wasnt really well written and it was extremely obvious who was gandalf and sauron. nothin to do with black elves
I've heard people who don't witter on about what's supposedly 'woke' just say it's very boring? Is it worth trying? I have a very low threshold for boredom with fantasy and sci fi
Woke is such a bizarre catch all term. Yes, there is some diverse casting. Yes, there are female POV characters. But at its core it is quite a religious show about good versus evil. It has no sex, no queerness, and a few minor chaste romantic plots. The show is very popular in countries that are very conservative in their values.
It's bloody woke. Orcs have families and ask to not go to war. 😂 only idiotic woke leftists could come up with something like this. And the girl bosses, and diversity were there shouldn't be any...it's woke crap
Funnily enough, when the films were first coming out there actually was significant backlash about Arwen having a bigger role. So the more things change the more they stay the same I guess.
But they were good so no one cares anymore.
its wierd how they get around the map so quickly and easily, tolkien is about the journey more than the destination.
It's not as good as the people who like it seem to think it is, and it's not as bad as the people who hate it seem to think it is. If internet discourse wasn't so weirdly political right now we'd all agree it's fine as long as you turn your brain off before you start watching and we'd leave it at that.
I know the sister of the actress who plays Galadriel (Morfydd Clark, she's from Cardiff see boyo) and the ammount of abuse the actors got online is honestly disgusting.
It's so fucked too cause it's not like these actors have given poor performances, Morfydd is a great Galadriel and I couldnt be prouder that a welsh person was portraying her
@@livingdreams9913The only criticism I have of Morfydd is she’s a little stiff sometimes but honestly that’s probably directing and Galadriel is kinda going through it this season. When in doubt it’s not the actor, it’s the director/dialogue. Regardless, the harassment is awful EVEN IF SHE WAS A BAD ACTRESS WHICH SHE ISNT.
Mr. Plinkett jumpscare 💀
I wanted to like this show, I just never got into it like the PJ trilogy. I'm glad they made it into a show, but it's just not for me.
Also I wish these grifters wouldn't try and dress their """anti woke""" stuff in the cloak of actually caring about the original material. I KNOW these MFs didn't give a crap about Celebrimbor before this
ALSO also I'm glad Morfydd Clark is getting more recognition, I've been obsessed with her since Saint Maud.
I really wanted to like this show, especially with all the ridiculous hate it was getting before it was even released. Then I watched it, and as much as I didn’t want to, I really did just find it…boring. It didn’t capture either the grand, majestic scale or the whimsical charm that I want when I journey to Middle Earth. I didn’t particularly care about most of the characters. I was happy for those who enjoyed it, but my reaction was just “oh, that was kind of dull and disappointing.” As far as I’m concerned, and as it is with many of these rebooted/remade corporate products, I don’t see how a strong, angry reaction can be anything other than an anti-woke grift.
Yeah they keep claiming it's woke but idk wtf they're talking about
Is the woke in the room with us? Unless a woman fighting suddenly is woke…can’t remember when that happened last in lotr.
Woke is when people who don't look like me are on screen
its probably the woke parts lmao
@@hiigara2085 go on, answer the question then.
The criticism is about girlboos galadriel .. the butchering of a character to have a female protagonist being girl power at all costs..
It’s such a difficult time to just enjoy the geeky things I’ve always loved as a non-white non-straight dude. The most racist and bigoted comments and ideology I’ve ever seen have come from Star Wars fans, Marvel fans, DC fans, anything geeky. Even ignoring it takes a lot of energy.
Bla bla bla, everything is racist for certain people. The show is actually dumb it misinterprets everything Tolkien meant with his writings and elves weren't black. Cope
@@flvflv4712did you make this channel just to defend shitty criticism of a decent show
Adar season 1: "I killed Sauron", which we didn't see. Flashback scene in Season 2 provides that backstory on screen. Makes sense to me lol
Critical Drinker sounds like he's trying to be such a hard man but he's pocket sized in real world.
Imagine the smell of that room HeelvsBaby is in
I haven’t watched the show myself, but I really, REALLY appreciate this video, it’s like a breath of fresh air. Even if this show objectively sucks, that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t exist. There is nothing that warrants these extreme responses, it’s just a TV show. Jesus. xD
And honestly, I don’t think most of these people are even that mad, they just want views and it’s really pathetic. It feels like in general, media is either overhyped or overhated and like you said - why can’t we just be normal about things anymore? Why can’t you just be a casual fan of something?
Also, even though this video wasn’t about the Hobbit, I feel like it applies to it. People talk about the Hobbit movies like they’re the worst pieces of cinema ever made and that’s just not true. I enjoyed all of them! There’s a lot of genuine criticism toward them, sure, but they aren’t abominations.
Thank you!
How dare you jumpscare me with the starfield pronounce cry baby.
Every few months I'll forget he exists only for him to come screeching back into my life and take a small but not insignificant piece of my faith in humanity with him
Theres barely any live action fantasy shows left and even if the show isnt faithful to the source it still doesnt look as bad as the handful of bandwagon fantasy shows that came out in the wake of GoT becoming a hit. I can appreciate the show for what it is.
Thanks for this! I've been so horrified by the hate storms around genre media and genuinely fearful for casts and creators. It's time to stand up to the bizarre religiosity around genre media and let people enjoy it for what it is.
"Non white people are on my screen so my immersion is ruined" in a fantasy show is such an incredible way to say you're just racist lmao
seriously!!! what a wild thing to say
"Women and coloured people are not being treated like sh*t! Gasp, my immersion... nooooo"
I'm not sure if elves, giants, sorcerers, and dwarves are an actual species on Earth, in our history where we didn't have a bunch of fantasy lads and lasses running about with a ring. Saying it isn't accurate to history is wild.
I wish they would come out and say "in my fantasies, minorities don't exist" instead of all the dogwhistles
"I invented a strawman just to call someone racist, because i am retarded leftists brainrot"
seriously!!!!
Thanks for being sane. I'm an LOTR fan (been reading the books) and there's a lot the Rings of Power show gets right almost as much as they change details or get wrong (of which there is a difference). I've also noticed that every time a woman is portrayed as competent in fighting is instantly labelled by these nonces as a girlboss or mary sue when literally 80% of their favourite fiction boys possess those exact same traits. The actors and actresses are also SUCH AMAZING PERFORMERS HOLY SHIT. Especially this season.
It's not perfect but I'm really enjoying the show. The criticism is massively overblown.
I was about to quit UA-cam for real until I came across this. I watched a couple of vids saying how awful Rings of Power was, didn't watch the show, then my kid started watching it with her dad and they loved it? It's entertaining and nice to look at? And the people hating on it get money for hating it. What's crazy is the algorithm just keeps showing me all the hate. Over and over and over.
Thank you! I have been feeling the same way about this show since it started! The idiotic level of bullshit leveled at the show has been insane. I have found the show decent to good though I haven't finished season 2.
Glad to know there's a fellow enjoyer of the show out there who finds all the discourse exhausting and flat-out bizarre. It's one thing to admit that there are moments here and there that feel clumsy, or places where the show needed to find its footing, but I'll be damned if this isn't just a total case of people "deciding to hate something" and then searching every frame for whatever they can possibly hate. Season 1 was solid enough, but Season 2 was a huge improvement! I'm just grateful so much of it exists in the first place-especially some of the score/original songs, getting to see places and worlds like Númenor and Khazad Dûm, excellent original characters like Adar, and truly stunningly good adaptation like everything with Sauron/Celebrimbor. That makes it all worth celebrating, to me!
Right there with you! I feel so bad for the creators - everyone from the tech people to the actors to the writers - to have to deal with all this hate. I enjoy the show, see it for what it is and am fearful that so many fanatical haters exist.
Oke of my new favorite creators shouting out thebirdman, another one of my mew favorite creators? Nice.
It's nigh impossible to find a review for this show that isnt subsumed by the 2024 equivalent of the gamer gate squad.
What's a gamergate squad?
@@ChrisMustard look up Folding Ideas' video on gamergate
The right hates strong women
Thanks! I'm very spooked by the level of vitriol thrown at creators and think it is only a matter of time before one of them gets hurt. I like the show for what it is, and I believe that many people who do are too fearful of backlash and/or bullying to say so. It's fine if you don't like it but no one should approve of the fanatical hate that has swirls around genre media.
Praying that this video does not attract the freaks. Andddd, interesting hearing your perspective about the show, and about the bizarre backlash.
thanks for talking about this!! i love trop and everyone is so miserable about it largely for sexist and/or racist reasons. season 2 was a big step up too imo
Verily Bitchy did a pretty good critique of the first season from a progressive POV.
I'm a Tolkien fanatic, I've read the books, the slim, the unfinished tales, tales of middle earth, all of them, and i still really like the rings of power. It's fun and I think it's a good thing that more people can be introduced to Tolkien's world. I've always lived it and I hope a new generation of folks can too
I don’t like it, but yeah, it’s not as bad as all that. It’s a strange adaptation and I’d have preferred another, but it’s not actually trash.
Seeing this pop up in my subscription feed won Mr Joseph Fisher my respect until the end of time, it's literally not that bad, I can't keep having the same conversation about this show in every tolkien community I inhabit
Try finding a lord of the rings audiobook. There are some that sing the poems and play background noises and music. (I have horrible ADHD and this got me through the Tom Bombadil chapters)
Same and I don’t have ADHD. There are extremely boring chapters in this book, it’s really hard to read sometimes.
I have no problem with different races representing these mythical characters! The only thing that bothered me was that some of the elves didn’t really have those regal elven features that I think makes them elves. For example I think Arondir and Galadriel totally looked like elves but Mirdania and some of the background elves just looked like normal people with pointy ears.
agreed!!!
I am of two minds on this. On the one hand, I totally agree, and I giggle whenever I see a normal looking dude amongst the Elves- but also, I am an Elf hater for life, and I kind of like the idea that the famed beauty of them is just classic Elf supremacy and Elven pride & arrogance coloring the narrative, and they're actually just mostly normal looking.
I haven't even watched this yet but thank you. I'm so sick of this click-baity negativity everywhere just for the sake of hating something. (Imo there's plenty one can not agree with in the show or think could have been done better but there's also plenty to like and it's just NOT THAT SERIOUS.)
I've watched it now. You're so based and it's desperately needed in this climate. Thank you again! :)
It is a boring slow paced show, that somehow takes itself way too serious and not seriousenough to actually make decent costumes. And god the pseudo intellectual dialogue. Every simile and metaphor is painful as fuck
exactly
the video is about bad criticism, if you have good crit, that's ok
It's so funny some people have forgotten that you can choose to not watch something if you hate it 🤷🏻♀️ it's not for you, go elsewhere, you don't need to tell everyone it's terrible..... apart from it makes a ton of money to do so. Be normal is such good advice 🤣
You can also choose to criticize it. There’s nothing wrong with criticizing a show. How would writers and show runners even know what to improve on or how certain added elements are being received by fans if nobody discussed shows unless they liked it? I’m not sure what’s up with this new generation and new trend of trying to silence people who disagree with you. There’s nothing wrong with having discourse on why a show/book/game/movie or whatever is good or bad. People only talk about it because they care about these properties. You’re basically saying that unless you are giving something praise, you shouldn’t say anything. I’m a black woman so this has nothing to do with me hating black people or being white or “alt right.” I’m just a normal person who doesn’t get bothered by someone dragging something I like.
YESSSSSSSSS JOSEPH A ROP DEFENDER
The Gnomes vs Knights video WAS a banger indeed. Anyone who's new here should go check it out after this one!
I got caught in the grift when it first came out/was announced, glad I stepped away from that side of youtube. I still dont like the show - but not for the same reasons as anti-woke grifters, their reasons are so surface level and need to be separated from the wider context of both the show itself and the production process to even make sense in their minds. A lot of it comes off as nitpicky gripes used to push a conservative culture war narrative.
Anyway; if you like the show, good on ya :)
My head canon is that since this is set thousands of years before the Lord of the Rings this is Galadriel when she was young and rowdy and she had a growth spurt after retiring
These idiots can't possibly comprehend the POWER of head canon.
13:45 “I know you are getting old but you have to run.” Truer words…
It's a endemic of the modern age that I've seen time and time again. The sheep hear something is bad, and baaaaaaa they agree. I ask which bit is bad, and they're like "you think I'm watching this shit?!" Meanwhile, I'm seriously enjoying watching this guy deceive everyone with sweet tasting lies before going back to his freakish emotionless face when people aren't around.
Also, please 27:17
The thing I see for every show the internet hivemind decides must be hated is "bad dialogue", and it's really bizarre to me because in every instance I can think of it's absolutely fine!
I think the show gets such hard criticism because they always stated it's the most expensive show ever made, so that made people have super high expectations.
Personally I don't care abot what color of skin or how tall the characters are, but I can't deny that many of them are just unlikable to me. Since the very first scene, I felt Galadriel didn't care at all about his little army when she was searching for Sauron, all her interactions with other characters were just manipulative and angsty, she made the biggest mistake of not telling everyone who Sauron was as soon as she knew and she never has repercussions about her poor choices.
The passing of the time is very unclear, we can see characters being in one place, and then the next scene they are already in another one, same clothes and everything, but in a place that supposedly should take weeks to reach. This happens so many times it's really confusing.
I felt some scenes were way too quick, they build up the Balrog for two seasons and it was on screen for a total of 3 minutes, being forgotten by everyone as soon as the cave collapsed.
I'm making just one example but there are really so many it would take me forever to list them all.
I'm not the biggest fan of the lord of the rings movies, and I didn't read the books. To me it's just not a very good series.
That said, when I watch a video where all their criticisms are about how white the elfs and dwarves should be, I close it at the speed of light, that's just stupid
You made a great video and I'm glad you are enjoying the series :)
Some people laugh at themselves when they fart in the bath. Some people are easily amused.
I'm loving the show and can't wait for the next season
I found that angry man to be embarrassing and weak.
Good Looking Witch Speaks Into Fish About Tolkien.
There are no photographs of Galadriel.
There are photographs of an actor portraying Galadriel.
You said it all.. they scream and spit because that's their job and what pays their bills... i bet that if that bald guy makes a video talking calmly about he same subject, it will be his less viewed video ever and he will be called a fraud. Because he depends so much on the rage bull persona for his content... and paying the bills....
If you don't enjoy the series don't watch it.. and let others enjoy it without screaming in their ears about elf hair size....
the tallest elf in all of elfendom truly magnificent Galadriel is the Center of the Rivendell basketball team
My partner is 6 1 and I can confirm she's very distracting.
I have enjoyed the show. Yeah, some of the dialogue is cringe, a few camera shots here and there are meh. Overall, though I have enjoyed every episode. That being said, I am not one of those people that have to go online and get influenced by other people's opinions on shows and media.
Don’t the Jackson films begin with a flashback too 😭 12:01
I have totally forgiven Amazon’s terrible employment practices because they cast Lenny Henry as a hobbit.
@@jackadams1864 WHICH EPISODE
There's a lot to be said about modern day fandom discourse about media, and how it's almost always negative and applying US-centric, modern day morals to fiction and fictional characters. People who pride themselves to have media literacy (quite wrongly in many cases) but fail to grasp the media in its context. Also why is it usually negative? Sometimes you just want to enjoy something, you know? It's not all srsbzns, it's fictional media. I'd say you're perfect to make a video on it but I value your mental health, so.
I think it's because there's poc in it. They say its not, but mostly it is.
I just thought the show was boring and I think less creative than Jackson’s LOTR on far bigger budget.
Elves can be black though who tf cares lol
racists care
@@itcouldbelupus2842 yeah they need a life. Show had bigger issues, digital production made it look cheaper then the LOTR even with triple the budget.
Characters would not say are engaging enough to carry a show and it certainly didn’t have a plot you could tell soemone in an elevator which you can 100% do for LOTR.
@@m.c4210 Very true.
There's a few reviews (that were a bit negative) that I kinda liked which were a bit more meme-y and I liked them for the funny memes that didn't take themselves too seriously, but overall the backlash to the show was extremely harsh and at times definitely unwarranted (especially the "woke" stuff). I can understand though if people didn't like it and that's ok - what's not ok is the harassment the cast has received because of it.
Personally I think the scenery and some of the acting was really really good. The music especially I think deserves a lot of praise, it brought me back to the OG movies and just felt very LotR (barring that one orc song outro that I didn't really care for xD).
That said, the writing was a bit....meh, the pacing slow at parts and some characters I did not care for at all. Galadriel (especially in the first season) felt written like a moody teen girl and grated on me - which is not the actress's fault, she did the best with what she was given and all the hate she's getting is just awful. Just because I didn't care for some of the characters the way they were written, doesn't mean I should go and harass them. Some story lines were better than others for sure: I really liked anything to do with the dwarves where most of the Numenor and harfoot parts left me a bit bored (which is a shame, I really liked the main cast of the Numenor part and enjoyed the visuals a lot!).
Anyway, I'll still keep watching because any excuse to listen to the music and see beautiful scenery is good enough for me haha
13:11 I really like the way you worded this. I'm a huge Tolkien fan and took this show for what it is: entertainment. It's not that deep. In this hellscape timeline we live in, let me enjoy oNE THING. I thought the acting was great, the enthusiasm from the crew and cast was great. Do I think it's the best thing ever? Absolutely not. Critical thinking and media literacy has literally died (no she's meditating guys). Anyway, thank you for another banger. (ps I found your channel because of your gnome video and I'm so glad I did!)
also PSA: there IS racism in lotr. elves dont like dwarves, dwarves dont like orcs, hobbits dont like men. middle earth does not function like actual earth. one person tried to say it would look weird if they made a film about ancient china and put black people in it, but uhhhh🤔 china is a real place?????..... middle earth is not..... our race politics would not be the same.
I don’t know anything about this series. I just love watching your videos 💜
When the Jackson trilogy came out, people DID complain about Arwen and the other creative choices made. Jackson just handled the complaints like a champ and kept it moving.
And then came the Hobbit trilogy........,,,,
@@noellethomas2589 We all make mistakes.
I have to disagree. As a black woman, I can’t stand when they sprinkle black people in at random into medieval European fantasy settings. It’s so damn distracting because instead of focusing on the story, I start wondering how this mixed population came about. Because shows like this usually provide zero explanation. The more I think about how the population came about, the less it makes sense. Even if you discount racism and just pretend racism isn’t a factor in this world, it still doesn’t make sense because after several generations of mixing, they would all be one race. In the 1990s the comedian Martin Lawrence did a movie where he was a black knight in a medieval world AS A JOKE, and now Hollywood is doing that for real and all the time! The Lord of Rings was not racist and was fine having all white people in it because it made sense for that world. Why does every setting have to look like downtown LA in 2024? It destroys the escapism. Most black people I talk to can’t stand it but white liberals are always defending it and I don’t know why. We never asked for this and I’m fine being left out of these stories.
That's true the writers should've been more creative and added additional lore like these dwarfs are black because they were the long lost tribe of the south and has once again made contact with the rest of the dwarves. Or something like that! It would make sense, right?
If people don’t understand what I mean…I also wanted to provide an example to help you understand. Pretend they did a story about fantasy ancient China and that 25% of the characters in that story were black. Also pretend that the population is never explained in that story. Pretend you just press play on the movie and that suddenly there are black characters walking around everywhere in this ancient fantasy China location. It would be so jarring to see that, would it not?Exactly. Well, the same consideration should be given to European settings. It’s no different. It is also weird because writers are just removing racism artificially from the world. They’re pretending race relations isn’t a thing which makes it an awkward experience and kinda insulting. Race not being a factor is just not believable because it is 100% normal for civilians of a world to reject or not like foreigners migrating in, even when those foreigners are white. So it’s just hard for me to believe that Middle-Earth would not only accept foreigners with no problems but black ones at that! 😂 Stop trying to play in our faces, Hollywood ! Boromir is probably rolling around in his damn grave watching these n*ggas in Middle-Earth! 😂 I’m just kidding but you get the point. And if the Rings of Power show runners are not trying to imply that the black people migrated in, and that they’ve already been in Middle-Earth since the beginning of recorded history, then that just creates an even BIGGER mess because like I said before, they should all be one homogeneous race if that’s the case because they would be mating and mixing with each other after multiple generations since racism doesn’t exist. Last I would like to add that people are assuming everyone who hates this type of stuff are “white alt right racists” when many people have an issue with it but are just silent because they don’t want to be accused of being a bigot. Even though these writers may have good intent and their heart might be in the right place, we know black people are only being added to these type of stories for politics, diversity and inclusion, and not for the story so it kinda feels like charity and is kinda insulting low key. I wish they would just get back to hiring creative geniuses and not activists. It is destroying film in my humble opinion.
@@54032ZepolRight. I genuinely wouldn’t mind if they had all black dwarves or something like that. That would actually make sense and wouldn’t even need explaining honestly. But the mixed populations for every race/species make little sense because that’s not how population growth works. I try to give stories like this a chance but then it becomes difficult because world building is very important to me in film. It’s hard to stay focused on a story when the world has fallen apart for you within the first 5 minutes of the film. I’ve found it very hard to escape lately and it’s just a bit frustrating because as a film lover and someone who has been through a lot, I used to watch film to escape from the stresses of life. Now I can’t do that because Hollywood feels like it has to make everything look like modern day America to match their ideologies. Even when I’m trying to give it my best effort to enjoy a show like this, in the back of my mind I’m thinking about how the world building and populations make no damn sense. I noticed that when we have cultural issues in our world like homophobia or racism, we tend to OVERcorrect problems. We always adjust things too much and create new problems by trying to eliminate the old ones like lack of diversity in film. And I would actually argue that Hollywood was ALREADY diverse and has been since the damn 80s! I’m so surprised that people don’t think movies and shows were already diverse. Black people make up only 13% of the US population but we make up like 50% of the cast in most big productions. The same goes for black people in the music industry. Lack of diversity in film seriously feels like a manufactured issue and not something based on actual facts and statistics. There are several problems with Hollywood but few black people in movies and shows wasn’t one of them I’m afraid.
i wish i could pin your comment!!!! well said
there IS racism in lotr. elves dont like dwarves, dwarves dont like orcs, hobbits dont like men. middle earth does not function like actual earth. china is a real place?????..... middle earth is not.....
Season 2 episode 7 had me crying premium tears
Those ranting and raving and being racist mysoginistic morons can't watch with their friends because you need friends to watch it with in the first place.
I love lord of the rings, and the original films were great, but aside from that Eowyn who just pines over Aragorn most of the time being a badarse, it was lacking in strong female characters.
Love that the fish has a cord
4:14 The Elf cuts were lifted from TES Oblivion lol
Counterpoint: some of us are diehard Tolkien fans, but simply didn't enjoy the show bc the vibes just weren't there for us 😭 I tried to watch it, but I just never had fun or enjoyed it. I hated the elf haircuts (& the twigs n crap in the hobbits' hair), I don’t know why the elves were bullying each other as kids but that aint right, Elrond didn't look like Elrond, the whole "ooooh is this weird old dude kickin it w the hobbits Gandalf or Sauron?" felt like I was watching Dora the Explorer ask me whether a banana was yellow or blue... idk, it just never clicked or felt fun or even real. For some reason it just felt artificial. ONLY bit I enjoyed of what I saw was Disa + Durin, Disa was the absolute highlight and came damn near to redeeming the show, but I just couldn't sit thru that many hours just being depressed that the elves look and act like stinky humans bc they're mean girls w/ short hair 😭 I have no ill will towards people who do enjoy it, it just didn't click for me is all, and I think that apathy is a huge reason it sort of flopped compared to the expectations leading up to release. We just aren't vocal about it like the weirdo racists were, it's not like all Tolkien fans who don’t like the show are those sad excuses for "fans"... a lot of us just didn't like it for subjective reasons/vibes, same as any other TV show.
For peak Tolkien adaptation/spiritual successor, I'd recommend Leonard Nimoy's "The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins" ua-cam.com/video/V3fZhJN4Tdc/v-deo.htmlsi=ViKZNIxFzpsXPI0a
1) They're not Hobbits lmao
2) All Elves having long hair was something Peter Jackson came up with
3) Elves literally had a whole kinslaying event and like fifty wars because they are racist to each other endlessly in the Silm, a lil bullying isn't out of character
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God forbid I refer to proto-hobbits, ancestral hobbits, hobbit precursors, whatever you want them to be termed, as "hobbits" for simplicity's sake (on a comment where I proceeded to recommend grainy footage of a silly song from the 60s as "peak Tolkien")
🙄 it's not that serious, & nitpicking terminology doesn't mean anything to the opinion I expressed on them
I'm sorry to say it, but elves having long hair was _not_ something that Peter Jackson came up with. Overwhelmingly, when Tolkien described characters' hair, it was long. Elves had long hair. Men had long hair. Dwarves had long hair. IIRC, even the balrog & the ringwraiths had long hair. Long hair _was_ the norm. There are single-digit exceptions, like when Luthien cut her hair, or Eowyn cut hers. Both of them _had_ long hair in the first place to be able to cut it all off for a significant reason. If you really want to get into it, this ties into medieval perceptions of hair & its significance. But to be frank, even if it _was_ something that Peter Jackson made up, I still wouldn't like the short hair. My argument was not about canonical hair length as written by Tolkien, it was a _subjective_ opinion: that it was ugly and I didn't like it! Which he even _agrees with in the video_ - it's not that unpopular an opinion.
And again, my issue was with elf children acting like absolute cruel little brats, not with adult elves being assholes. I don't think the _children_ were supposed to act like that, but again. Subjective 🤷♀
@@subjectdelta44 “All the Eldar had beautiful hair (and were especially attracted by hair of exceptional loveliness), but the Ñoldor were not specially remarkable in this respect, and there is no reference to Finwë as having had hair of exceptional length, abundance or beauty beyond the measure of his people.” (HoME XII, The Shibboleth of Fëanor, p. 340-341)
Individual characters are described as having long hair. There is no group/race that is described as all having long hair
@@noellethomas2589 And yet, nothing about that excerpt states that all elves have short hair? That excerpt does _absolutely nothing_ for your argument. All it states is Finwë had _average length hair_ for his people. It does not state his hair or his people's hair is short, nor does it say it's long. And if you'll go back and check, my last comment clearly stated that Tolkien's descriptions were of _characters_ - so your last two sentences only restated my own. The difference here is that when I read many individual character descriptions and they *all* have long hair, with the only few exceptions being when it was previously long and cut short for an important reason, I find it reasonable to believe that long hair was the baseline/normal length.Yours, for some reason, is to assume that everybody else on Middle Earth actually had the same haircut as Chris Pratt.
And again: _I do not CARE where "elves have long hair" came from, my subjective opinion was that short hair does not look good on them and I didn't like that choice from the show producers._ This is the issue you are choosing to blow way out of proportion. With all due respect, you really oughta chill out a little bit. Idk why you feel the need to prove that elves walk around looking like the average accountant, when again it had nothing to do w my original issue, but I promise you that there's no textual evidence you can find that will prove that, and it is NOT THAT SERIOUS 😭 try going for a walk and listening to the ballad of Bilbo Baggins. Might make you feel better
@@subjectdelta44 I was not arguing that all Elves have short hair ??? Lmao where tf did you get that from
Ur my new favorite channel
Babe, shut up Joseph Fisher uploaded a new video 🫡 In seriousness though, this lines up exactly with how I felt about the acolyte. After constantly seeing the hate I decided to try it. Was it a perfect show? No but it was fun and interesting. People please me normal.
Same! I thought it had some cool ideas and fight scenes and wanted to see where the story would go. Tragic we won't get a cool sith focused season.
I actually really liked the acolyte. I’m not really interested in stories about main characters like Han, Luke or Rey- I want to experience the world. The acolyte gave me an outside story that I didn’t know. It was fun and that’s what mattered.
@@XuiLeeEv dude that fight scene in the middle of the season was actually one of the best in star wars, especially the willingness to kill a certain character. Actually so sad that we won’t get anymore because so many people never saw it because of the loud minority. I have a feeling that people will realize it was good eventually.
What the hell?!
My gran had that same fish.
I'm so glad you enjoyed the show. I personally didn't enjoy it that much, but I'm also a lot older than you, and I think that plays into it quite a bit. I feel that very few things can hold up to the original trilogy because of when I watched it and the influence it had on me, the same thing goes for the Star Wars movies. I wish I could watch the new series and movies without comparing them to the originals, but I just can't. Love your content!
Idk, I think The Acolyte was canceled because it wasn’t very good. And look, I was looking forward to that series because it was marketed as a pre-Lucas-era/Skywalker-saga Star Wars story, and then I was even more excited for it when I learned that they cast Abigail Thorne, AND I got even more excited when I learned Carrie-Anne Moss was in it! (I wasn’t paying that much attention to the hype, so I learned about Abby well before I learned about Carrie-Anne because I am more plugged into the news about leftist UA-camrs than I am about the hype, love, and hate for Disney owned IP.)
So, I watched it and it was just okay.
Spoilers from here on out!
Carrie-Anne Moss was great, but she is killed immediately and the whole story revolves around solving her murder. And her appearance and immediate exit from the series just feels cheap. Yes, she does show up in a few flashbacks but come on, why are you casting Matrix Mommy in your StarWars show? The Matrix and The Phantom Menace came out the same year but only one of them redefined sci-fi films for a generation, while the other one just kinda coasted on its legacy, and the massive budget that that legacy afforded.
And then Abby shows up in episode 3. She has 3 lines, delivered very stiffly, and then the story moves away from any context where she might appear again. (And I know people have been roasting Abby recently for her appearance in House of the Dragon, but I don’t think the stiff delivery is her fault at all. I’m from Southern California, and I’ve known a few Hollywood, fart huffing pricks, AND at least 1 has-been and a couple of “never-will-be’s.” If you think a Hollywood production is gonna stop and let what they consider to be a cameo from a “lesser media,” a studio stunt casting, or just a gloried extra, try several takes, you know nothing about how the studio system works.) They didn’t give her much to do, and the result was fucking boring.
Outside of the interesting cast, the story was just kinda boring.
I think things cancelled because someone with an Executive title decided they personally wanted to cancel it. People are always looking for these highly scientific reasons why things happen, things happen because people in high places make decisions, that's all it boils down to. They don't care if it was good, they don't care about the writing, the performers, all they care about it how does it serve them, does it make them money or not, does it fit an agenda they like. We see this with Netflix all the time, shows with a loyal audience that are well regarded by critics and audiences alike are cancelled because they aren't bringing in the numbers. It's all down to that, honestly.
@@lloroshastar6347 people in high places often make decisions for a reason though. And sometimes the reason is simply because they personally didn’t like it, and sometimes the reason is weird tax stuff. But very often the reason for canceling a show is that it’s not getting the views that the studio thought it would.
I hate the anti woke 'critics' so much they skew the perception of media so much it's annoying. Funny thing is there are genuine criticisms to be made about this show but they get buried under the mountains of anti woke hate. Same goes for other shows like The Acolyte.
The funny thing is, they watch every episode of this show they claim to hate, drawing attention to it and give their money to the showmakers they dislike so much. Hell, there's an entire subreddit for hating on this show. Why not spend time and money on something you like instead? I really don't like netflix's avatar, I think it is an affront to the original. So I just chose not to watch it, simple as that.
superfans are scary because they just sweep you in in their absoloute insanity with how close something is to the source text or if somebody views a different character in a different light. when i was younger i loved harry potter and when your young you just think its normal when it really isnt 😭😭
I'm a big fan of Tolkien and I like the Rings of Power quite a bit. It has a lot of stuff I don't like but also a lot of stuff I like. Things just can't be decent anymore - they have to be either flawless or garbage.
Your critique of the critics is fair, they're attacking it for stupid reasons. But I still can't see what there is in the show to make it worth watching in itself. I suppose it could be something to chat over when you have friends round. A lot of TV is like that now. Ambient.
Ambient is such a good word to describe it. I'll have to remember this for future reference!
It's an adaptation of an incredibly popular series. It's not exactly hard to see why it is watched
Treating any show as background noise means you will always consider it as such because you're missing so much, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. I've been putting my phone down to watch this show and have found it very enjoyable television, as has everyone I know in real life who watches it. If I hadn't been paying attention though I'm sure I'd have a lower opinion of it.
Took me 4mins to realize ur mic is a fish 😳
I did not like the show's first season because:
1. I don't like TV series in general. I feel like this type of storytelling is a massive waste of time (for me personally, please don't get offended, anyone). I have no problem if other people find joy in these. It's fine.
2. The way it was written was just not vibing with me. I didn't see the payoffs to certain situations. I did not like a few main characters and this made me disassociate with the story completely.
I do agree with you on the anti-woke youtubers however. I think they will hate everything that comes out with a few exceptions because this is just the way they make money and attract views. Its a business, its making bread, and paying taxes and rent, and it's ugly. I can thank Rings of Power, however, for opening my eyes about that. When I watched the first season I had my arguments for why I don't want to continue watching and they were completely different from what these guys were yelling to me from the screen. One by one they just disappeared from my UA-cam algorithm. Now I can see guys like you, with much more nuanced perspectives on topics or actual arguments for real problems.
Cheers.
HeelvsBabyface has real James Corden vibes
HeelvsBabyface is a theatre kid at heart
I really enjoyed the series. Thought the casting was mostly superb.
Preferred this portrayal of the Dwarves and Elves. A little bit more subtle.
I felt Peter Jackson's version of the dwarves is a bit more Terry Pratchett.
Anyway glad to hear a positive voice on this. Thanks
I watched season two ROP with my wife and we both loved it. Don’t get the hate. I loved seeing Sauron manipulate the elves and craft his rings.
The anti-woke people ruin REAL criticism and conversation around media. To them, it’s all about aesthetics and decoration, they ignore the substance and story telling. It’s really annoying when you wanna critique something and all anyone talks about is how they’re black people or women, or someone sexual orientation in it and it’s like wtf… do you have any REAL criticism or feedback? Ugh, I hate it
5:06 She’s his mum-in law😝
I'd say watch The Little Platoons videos (there's 3) they're super long and go beat by beat. His anger seems genuine, it's not over the top and he justifies his reasons.
It’s ok, drags a bit in the second season, but doesn’t make me angry in any way
I think the overall backlash Rings of Power has reminds me of why, as an artist myself, I like to think back to Anton Ego's review in Ratatouille:
_"But the bitter truth we critics must face, is that in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it so."_
Don't get me wrong. Show is not perfect. Nothing is. Perfection would be boring. But really, at worst, it gets stagnant at points, and at best, it has some pretty solid stuff to say about certain perspectives on Tolkien's lore. I'd much rather see some new people try newer takes on classics from differing perspectives than another grey live-action Disney remake, that's for sure.
Like, if anybody here still thinks Rings of Power is an absolute abomination to its source material, go see the first two Alien movies, then see Aliens vs. Predator Requiem. THAT movie will give you something to cry about!
PS - I wonder if the people who deduct points from Rings of Power for not being wholey accurate to the source material have ever seen the 1953 cinematic adaptation of War of the Worlds produced by George Pal. Wells in the original novel describes the Martian tripods in good detail making sure to describe the odd metallic tentacles potruding from below, the heat ray coming out from some sort of flexible arm, the rooflike tops, and their ability to fire canisters of black smoke. In the 1953 cinematic adaptation they're not even tripods. They're hovercrafts shaped like mantarays with cobra arms portruding from the top, and their secondary weapon has been completely changed to some sort of anti-matter green laser that fires from the arms of the main body. And that's just the Martian warmachines. Wait until you see how the odd gooey Simon game faced aliens are nothing like the bear-sized octopus-like Martians with V-shaped beaks, sixteen tentacles, black beady eyes, bulbous heads, and they use machinery to drink the blood of humans.
The first season was bad but the new season was better
Two words : misogyny, racism. This fanbase was always made of a lot of people like these. The show is not as breathtaking as the films but it would be more beloved if it wasn't for that anti woke mentality that really is just far more whiny in itself than *they* accuse wokeness of being lmao.
well thats rude. im neither misogynist or racist but i fucking hate this show
i don't think that's fair to say not everyone who love's the lotr are "like this" i think we just want a well adapted show lmao yes there's alot of people who complain about it being "woke" i also don't think it helps you grouping all lotr fans as misogynistic and racist.....and not that it matters but im a female and a poc..... lmao
@@hiigara2085 same!!!!
@@hiigara2085 Well it depends on why you hate the show actually.
Because if your reasons for hating the show are genuinely racist and misogynist then that's an accurate description, even if you don't want to be called that. You don't get to decide that you aren't that just because you say so, it's entirely decided by the content of your character and your critique.
5:07 This is so obviously the case,
I haven't seen the show but this video makes me wish I could.
It's good, and the second season is an improvement on the first. I'm really happy it exists.
I literally only started watching it because the vitriol online was so loud and constant, I had to see what was 'the worst show ever'. I found it strangely fun and enjoyable - certainly a few silly moments, but the original movies had silly moments too. I'm looking at you, Legolas sliding down a staircase on a shield shooting a bow and arrow and Gollum... like most of gollum lol. But compared to most shows these days the quality is pretty good - writing seems decent, characters all sound like they belong in the universe, there are no weird modern day speakers (the Willow reboot had actors that sounded like they were on modern day tiktok, I couldn't even get through the first episode). The people losing their mind over this show being 'bad' would have loved this show if it had come out exactly the same as-is but back in 2012. They've gaslit themselves into hating content that they would have adored, but their heads are so far up their own asses they can't see it. It's wild, honestly. As someone that's been into Fantasy-everything since like 1980, I've seen a lot of good and a lot of schlock; bad fantasy is certainly out there, but Rings of Power isn't it. Plot's understandable, sets and CGI is good, costumes look nice, settings are beautiful ~ it honestly ticks most of the boxes for a good fantasy show. The only reason you wouldn't like it is if you're bringing in modern-day nonsense in your own head and deciding to be angry about it - or that one scene with Disa and the bats, which I kinda thought was very silly, but that's one scene in two seasons of show - I think that's pretty good. I enjoyed the Witcher at first but even that show had a much more discoordinated look/costuming/CGI/nonsensical lore, in spite of having plenty of support. Clearly making an A+ fantasy tv show isn't easy peasy lemon squeezy, even GOT shat the bed with the last season.
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Explain it to your parents was great
The show has one true problem, it's not fun. ROP is the most boring of all the LOTR movies and that's it's biggest problem. Fans will forgive anything as long as the movie was a fun watch.
Ahhh no but the radiant hair😂