2017 Ducati X Diavel - what you need to know before buying
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- Опубліковано 21 кві 2017
- I was invited onto a test ride with Riders of Bridgwater. I opted for a Ducati Diavel X and what a motorcycle it was! - If anything it's the engine that makes a great motorcycle and this motorcycle has a fantastic engine. There was no vibrations in the handlebars but the seat and tank did vibrate. Cornering was better then I ever expected with that massive 240 section rear tyre.
Ducatis are expensive motorcycles. Although the metals and plastics weren't up to japanese standards, I think what I am trying to say is the motorcyle don't give me the impression of having a long life span visually. I was shocked to see corrosion on the chrome edges of the exhaust tips, some of the ergonomics are weird, like exhaust gasses hitting my jeans and a foot peg that dug into my leg, stuff you would never accept on a motorcycle.
For all of the bad, the good outshines it, bucket loads of power, stability and handling prowess all backed up by superb brakes means this Ducati Diavel gives you a riding experience far in excess of anything else I have ridden in its class.
In the future I wouldn't be afraid of owning one, I would only be afraid of the upkeep to ensure it looks cosmetically good.
I liked this motorcycle even given the bad points, it like owning a rocket ship, you would never tire of riding it thanks to it's interesting styling and superb engine.
Many thanks to Riders of Bridgewater for the experience.
www.ridersmotorcycles.com
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I rode one of these a few days ago and had pretty much the same reaction as you, it is an AWSOME bike. In fact this is the only bike for many years that's left me with a huge grin, the salesman was laughing when he saw my grin. It looks bloody gorgeous when you see it, like really striking. I HATE forward mounted pegs, that's why I don't have a Harley, but this bike's position is soooo comfortable that I think I might prefer it with forward controls. After my test ride I felt this might be the best, most enjoyable bike I've ever ridden. When you ride it, car drivers stare at the bike it's so handsome.
Exactly! I am pleased you enjoyed the Diavel so much. It's one of those motorcycles that can capture your heart very easily. enjoy!
" It corners better than my harley " hahahahaha no shit there isn't a motorcycle available on the market that doesn't corner better than a harley
Well at least I made you laugh!
Moto Tingle hahaha was a good video spot on mate good work
I actually own an original Diavel (2013) and a 2012 Wide Glide Harley. Both have their purpose but I must admit every time I ride the Harley after spending most of my recent ride time on the Duc I think to myself "How the fuck do Harley get away with sellin' bikes that handle so attrociously bad in this day and age?" Seriously 2012 Harley suspension tech is on par with late 60's Honda, Yamaha et al...
The metals used in the Ducati are on another level in comparison to any Japanese bike, the machined parts are showpieces, the bike is artwork worthy of display in any museum or public display, it's like saying a Ferrari's materials are inferior to Japanese econobox materials
just spent over $8,000 + on my 15,000 mile Desmo service! I did the Desmo service which was about $2,200 before parts of about $600+, I added new tires , sprockets, chain and battery during the Desmo service, I was around $4,000 with the Desmo service and new parts mentioned but during the 15k mile Desmo servicing they discovered my wiring harness was broken around the steering head, it was routed so it kinked and after being kinked repeatedly the wires inside started breaking down / apart, they tried to patch it but the previous owner already had that done ant it did not really fix the cause, they said it needed a new harness and it was going to be $3,000 in addition to the $4,000 I owed, I have an extended warranty that paid for the harness and they also found the clutch slave cylinder and the neutral gear sensor was bad so it was going to be around $4,000 being paid by the warranty in addition to the $4,000 I paid!! PLUS they kept the bike for 4 months!
I brought it in before Xmas, their Ducati expert was in Italy for 2 weeks as he did every year to update his skills and then Xmas hit then the harness issue and getting the work approved by the warranty company all took 4 months and all together $8,000+ with my $4,000 and the warranty company paying $4,000+, If I had not bought the warranty I would have had to pay over $8,000 to tune up my $10,000 Ducati !!! I bought it for $10,400 3 years ago, essentially if it fell over and was damaged that badly it would have been totaled, I was amazed the warranty company paid it all cause I am pretty sure the dealer damaged the gear position sensor doing the clutch slave cylinder job, they paid so all was good , I was freaking out at looking at $4,000 for my servicing until the rest came up , now I am glad it was only $4,000 not $8,000+ the total cost it ended up being!
Now when I see all the great deals on low mileage Ducati's I think about the servicing bill being $4,000 to $8,000 and say new with warranty might be best today.
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@@dickbuttz7428 I am grateful for this tale of woe..... Ducatis are not for me then !
Great honest review, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment
Great review. I have started giving Ducati some respect lately. They are making some amazing bikes.
I have been hearing the same rumors. I might just wait a while to see if it's fake news or not. - I sure hope they have upped their game, their motorcycles look very nice.
faith biker They have always made beautiful passionate bikes, 29 years riding - 46 Bikes. Ducati is different, always has been always will. So I don't really understand what your saying - Mike Hailwood Replica, SD900 Darmah, 916 to 998, let's skip the 999, 1098, Multistrada, Diavel, Desdomonic, I could go on forever listing heritage, modern. I don't understand your comment
Brother you are awesome. Just like this bike. Great video. I will buy this when i will have money. And you know what V-rods were my first love untill i found this beauty. Love from India.
Your Awesome too! - The DIavel is a superb motorcycle. I have a V-Rod Muscle VRSCF and it's a wonderful bike, the Ducati will eat the V-Rod for Breakfast (a UK expression). Thanks for commenting! I hope you achieve a Diavel as soon as you can.
bought one, love it !! P.S i`m not rich...
They are excellent. If you ever get the chance to make a video, do let us see it.
That seems like a pretty sweet bike. Like a good balance of nerd and balls out.
What are the helmet laws over there?
Take care,
Jay
Hi Jay! - I enjoyed riding the Ducati, It had it's issues tho, as I found out before I ride it anywhere, Exhaust gasses blowing on my leg and the foot peg digging into me. Weird Ergonomic issues that just shouldn't be there. - Helmet laws over here are very strict and enforced with massive fines and bans on driving. One of the standards helmets must meet is British Standard BS 6658:1985 and carry the BSI Kitemark on them, it's a legal responsibility for sellers to ensure motorcycle helmets are UK certified. So let's say you went on eBay and bought a helmet from another country, you'd be breaking the law and the find for wearing it would be approx £2,000 plus if your insurance company was informed, they would cancel your policy. You'd have great difficulty obtaining insurance again. - Luckily Legal UK helmets can be purchased from £29.99
Nice video.I have the 1260s and must say its very good.I would agree,to describe it as a cruiser is a bit of a misnomer .Shame you didnt have chance to really rip it on fast road,it pulls your arms off. One hell of a machine,a pleasure to ride and own.
Totally agree
Hey MT
great review!
I have a question. I noticed you are riding with you feet in a mid mount position on the bike but this particular bike comes standard with forward mount controls. Is this a new aftermarket mod or did this mod come standard from the dealership? This may explain the pegs digging into your leg. Can you shed some light on this?
Good question! - The mid mount controls were fitted by the dealer and came free with the Diavel if you bought it during the demo period. The pegs themselves looked like they came off of the Panigale. They were solid aluminium and they were fixed, so there was no spring action for them to flip backward if an obstruction was to hit them (hope I explained that okay). So if you put your legs down, maybe you roll the bike forward or backward slightly, the pegs dig into you legs. I have never had a motorcycle peg dig into my legs before, so I had to mention it in the video. Thanks for your comment!
The dealer just modified it
Got one. My favorite bike ever. Could use bracket for factory side bags.
Outstanding!
Thanks
Handles better than my Harley 😄
Ha ha! - Yeah, it's a V-Rod so it kicks ass in the corners (for a cruiser)
Brilliant review MT! Probably the biggest complaint I have with my Trophy is the 'numb nuts' effect... annoying to be sure.
Yay! Glad you liked it, the vid was a bit of a rush job but I came away with numb nuts, so I learned a lot!
I have an s1000rr but I want cruiser as well. Is this the way to go
I cant deny it, the Diavel is a cool Motorcycle
I love these bikes, but being 6 ft 4 I don't think I'd fit properly on one of these!
You got to try one, I think you will be okay
Hi,I've read some comms that the drive belt is a problem and is not cheap and u can change quite a few in a year.What u think?
At my local dealership, I was told the belts have a lifetime warranty. But the rollers do not. If the clear-coat on the rollers get scratched by stones running with the belt, you have to buy a new belt, you can not reuse the old 'lifetime warranty' belt. I have seen rips in the Diavel belts from stones/debris. Many belt driven motorcycle owners will experience similar over time, the Diavels are high performance, so don't potter around the streets, thus they pickup more debris. I think the biggest upset is the cost of replacement.
Had mine for 17000 miles commuting and ragging round the Alps, Pyrenees, Pecos and so on. Also tried the Power Launch 3 times (hilarious but scary). Not a problem yet.
@michael burke ua-cam.com/video/V0rjxZT-dco/v-deo.html
Mid mount foot pegs? The bike was designed for forward controls - why else do you think your legs is getting jabbed with the pegs with your leg down. The bike is awesome. I can’t stand riding my Harley anymore.
Hey, I was just pointing it out. It was an option that was fitted by the retailer. Cheers!
I am a Ducati lover
Hi Julio! I watched all of you're videos. We do not have push bikes with engines over here. It is not allowed, or at least not-popular. I think they are cool. Thanks for uploading your vids onto UA-cam.
Excellent review Alex. Ducati sounds great in the underpass. Didn't know it had blue dash that's cool 😎 heard instrumentation is useless in the sunlight great midrange and upper power handles great feels lighter than it is. More street cred over there than here. My feeling about this bike state side is it doesn't fit a particular riders niche so who do you ride with? Cruisers? Harley guys will shush you away. Sportbike riders? Maybe but probably a little too slow for the literbikes and big boys busa etc... but enjoyable on solo runs and people admire it as you pass by...sure. Is that enough for a long term relationship? For me you know the answer. I think a lot of Diavel owners over here get excited when they first purchase this bike but the newness wears off it collects dust then gets sold eventually for reasons I just mentioned. But it's different over there you ride your donkey with a ninja no problem no issues. Very cool!!!
It's a lone-wolf type of motorcycle. The Italians make some really good looking motorcycles. Italian motorcycles and cars are accepted over here and the owners rave about them. I enjoyed riding the Diavel but when I started to look into special tools to remove wheels, failed brake master cylinders, ECU's being swapped out under warranty, it freaked me out. I am not rich enough to buy a motorcycle brand new, so when I buy a second-user 'out of warranty' Ducati, will I have massive expenses? I watched UA-cam videos with people replacing rocker cover gaskets on 4 year old Ducati motorcycles, It worried me. - The rumor mill says Ducati have improved. I think I will wait 3-4 years and see...
Moto Tingle yeah the reliability is questionable who really knows maybe the one you get will be absolutely trouble Free. Great video nicely done
Awesome!
Is it really £70k? If yes, buy on in Brazil (my country) and ship it to the UK. This bike costs BRL80k. It's a lot cheaper for you guys!
Lol, good advice!
It's nowhere near seventy thousand UK pounds. Probably seventeen thousand pounds. About $34k AUD.
one spunky bike!!
That is the truth
‘Corners better than my Harley’ 😂😂😂😂
Glad you liked it, I try an add a bit of humor here and there
I like your style of humor mentioning the good cornering compared to a Harley while riding a straight lol
YOU ARE THE FIRST PERSON TO GET IT, NOBODY ELSE DID - BRILLIANT - *Awards you UA-cam Prize of 10 points*
Must admit I had a lovely experience from Riders (bristol) leading up to the purchase of my first Ducati but thats where it ended (after the purchase). I bought it to ride ride it but after being promised the bike for 4 days later, 3 weeks on still no bike. Excuses varied from mechanics off sick hence unable do PDI (first week), red key missing (second week) having to send red key away for laser cutting (3rd week). What a total fail! Enough was enough and cancelled it. A week on bought one from Bridgewater and that was much more straight forward but Ill blame my bad experience on the initial naughty salesman and not the company. 5 years on and still chuffed with the bike though :-D
Whoa! Thats not a great experience. Sorry you went through that stress. Glad you got the bike you wanted in the end tho. Tricky, I have had bad experiences too and others said the places I had bad experiences were fine. I have a Monster now. Really aught to upload some videos on it. My only excuse is waiting for Spring to arrive...
i can't understand the big deal about ``exhaust gasses on your jeans'' while you're not riding and i don't get why you don't just fold up the passenger pegs if you don't like the touching your leg when you're not moving. those things are hardly a big deal, are they?
It was not the passenger pegs. It was the the riders pegs were fixed into position. It's my first ride of a Ducati and I have never met fixed pegs before. Why you would want a sharp pen to hit your legs while maneuvering the motorcycle I don't know. Exhaust gasses are up to the individual too, I just didn't expect hot exhaust gasses to be hitting my ankles, you might like it. were all different.
Moto Tingle but the rider pegs are so far forward- I guess I just don’t see how that would be possible... You can upgrade to folding DP pegs
"Sharp Peg. not Sharp Pen" I meant... (Lol, proof reading was never my game)
This Ducati had Mid Mount Controls as stated in the video. An upgrade to folding pegs would certainly save any grazed skin, Lol
At the price, folding pegs shouldn't be a friggin' upgrade..."Jeez, and ppl bag Harley"...
all the things you dont like about this bike the normal one doesn't have. try the normal one
Oh I do like the Diavel. I just had to point out the mid mount foot peg issue and the exhaust blowing on my leg, apart from that Its a motorcycle I want to own and am currently saving up for. Might take a while but I am on my way! - Thanks for commenting dude, love your super extra long UA-cam name!
I have the "normal" one....the hot air coming out of the side mounted radiators (once the fans kicked in) was just grand in 35 degree Aussie traffic today....actually painful on my legs
Great video! I've loved Ducatis for years, having worked at two BMW/Triumph/Ducati dealers over time. I just went Darkside on my 2012 BMW K1600GT and can't think of a bike that needs it more than this Diavel. Oh MAN, I bet this thing eats rear tires... To see my video follow the link! ua-cam.com/video/hz7lDThb9uY/v-deo.html - jaysbigadventure
I'm a wooss wouldn't want to be damaged by the pegs or feel hot exhaust or gasses....and I'd want bigger dashboard / controls...
It is a design flaw with the pegs. They were never intended to be there, as the originals were more forward. The dealer fitted these midmount pegs at a retail cost of £500 (at the time). Its a nice motorcycle but I opted for a Monster 1200 as it was proper capable of mis-bahaving.
Why would a biker want numb balls? Lol. Corniest phrase I've heard. Lol.
Damn! Luv to see u pop a wheelie.
Haha! - I wasn't allowed to, it was a demo ride and they took photos of us and made us sign disclaimers n stuff. a Wheelie might have cost me £big £time. - If I could have got away from the others id of had some fun for sure.
Ride on man!
Servicing is not expensive, rear tyre is less than my hayabusa, best bike ever.
Your review was confusing. You said it jiggled and made your balls numb, then five minutes later you were raving about how smooth it was? Is it possible to ride this for 2-3 hours without any pain anywhere in your body, that's what I want to know.
You need to arrange a test ride at your local dealer. then you'll know.
@@MotoTingle I wish I could if that were an option I certainly would of course. If I could do that I wouldn't bother watching videos like this on you tube. Someone who has ridden one must know if you can ride one for 2-3 hours without pain.
To be fair, 2-3hrs is pushing it my friend. 1.5hrs was enough for me. + its your call, but never buy blind, youve got to go ride one before shelling out the £money for a motorcycle like this. Its not suited to everyone. The reviews I have watched are super enthusiastic but to be fair I dont own one, it did not capture my attention. I ride an M109R, R1 and a few classics, the Ducati wont be purchased by me in the future. I am sticking to my monster and 999s
Sorry mate your review lost all credibility when you said “oh my god it corners better than my Harley”. I’m out at 5:19
Haha! All Credibility! Love it. I had a Harley Davidson V-Rod Muscle VRSCF but your out, okay... lol
what i need to know before buying it is. when the fuck is ducati gonna fucking fix all the errors on their bikes? i wanna buy a hypermotar but ducati errors videos keep coming on youtube all the time
I am in agreement. I know two Ducati owners that are suffering from major electrical issues on modern motorcycles. ECU replacements should not be an acceptable fault in this day and age
Just after watching 2 minutes and already this guy isn't suited to Ducati
This guy is called Alex. Nice to meet you. I have two Ducatis plus Ducati UK follow my exploits on Twitter, we get along great and they have shared my rides with their followers. Which is pretty good given corporate rarely get involved with anyone but influencers. I see you have no videos uploaded to UA-cam. Maybe you could have a go, do a better job than me. Let me know if you do upload any Ducati rides. Lets see you put in some effort mate.
@@MotoTingle Ducati S2R1000 08 spec bought with 3k on the clock. Stolen at 54k on the clock. Covered over 50k on the bike, Spain France Germany Italy. I hope this qualifies me in your eyes. Moaning about pegs digging in and heat is all part and parcel of the Ducati DNA. Cover over 50k on one then wel talk
Lol, mate this isnt some pissing contest on whos done what with whos motorcycle. The fixed-mid-mount pegs were worth mentioning. I dont mind them on a racing motorcycle but on a cruiser they literally left me with indentations. I am giving it the Diavel a miss but ill keep my other Ducatis which none (not even my race bikes) stab me. Haha!