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So Daenerys was right about how she imagined the throne when she was little
Greeting Himeros that was an easter egg connecting the show and the books. I believe there are more throughout the show
She was just a girl who couldn’t count to 20.
@@Brillsama Couldn't live to 20 either
Yeah she pretty much explained it the book way
"I CoUlDnT cOuNt pAsT tWeNtY"
"No ruler should sit comfortably on his throne" or something
@@pyerack No kidding.
I work in a factory and I was inspecting one of my employee's boxes to find out that he wasn't checking his machine correctly. So because we were short staffed I had to go through his boxes by myself.
I had to measure 35,000 20mm bits of plastic with a ruler. It was pretty damn stressful.
500th like
There was a thing in the books where it was said that if a ruler wasn’t worthy of the seven kingdoms that he would constantly cut him or herself on the Iron Throne. This apparently happens to Joffrey often.
@@pyerack Because the kingdoms shouldn't be ruled by a "weak" king.
Existential moron damn aegon for being arrogant
woah this guy should write for the show, he is very knowledgable
See episode 3? With what light?
LOLLLLLLL?!?!? HE IS THE RITTER YOU DUM DUM IDIOTS! LOOOOOOLLLLLLLL?!?!?!?
Bob ross r/whoosh
@@brianfox6044 LOOLLLL ITS YOU WHO IS THE R/WHOOOOOOSH'D LMFAO!!
Bob ross really, why?
Can you imagine tripping down the stairs from the top of that thing. That’s a gruesome death right there
Theres a chapter where cersei dreams shes naked on the throne and walks down and trips and cuts herself repeatedly.
All I could think of is "I'm in a lot of pain, Rick!"
Fatality
A ruler should never sit easy or safely on it. That was the idea.
Many rulers (and their Hands) cut themselves in various ways on it, since its creation.
In Fire and blood, a king dies on the spikes
"When I was a girl, my brother told me it was made with 1000 swords from Aegon's fallen enemies. What do 1000 swords look like in the mind of a little girl who can't count to 20? I imagined a mountain of swords too high to climb. So many fallen enemies, you could only see the soles of Aegon's feet." -Dany finale
Actually a pretty good line
In the show littlefinger have also counted all the swords and said there isn't even 200
@@Sophie-mv7bd it was cringey
@@JL-yq9xn Your life is cringey man.
@@JL-yq9xn Your mom
I love how he doesn’t get all bent out of shape because HBO can’t deliver what he’s written exactly in the books. He understands that TV shows have budgets and schedules to keep. Like he says he can write whatever he wants on paper but when someone says how much it would cost to bring it to life he understands why it can’t be done.
He spent years working in hollywood. I think he's understand.
@@kaimargonar1000 Was about to say. He's written plenty scripts for tv so he understands how things have to be within budget and reason and what sounds good on paper might not be feasible, or even look good, on screen.
The Hypocritical Emo Kid 200 dollars
Actually he has taking shot at HBO mostly on those two directors.
Gloryclover Your dumb as fuck because AMC doesn’t put half the money into walking dead and there are other shows like HBO does with West world Game of Thrones etc.
The show cuts many things due to budget reasons.. They couldn't even afford light in episode 8.3
Hear ye, hear ye. The episode "The Long Night" was dim.
@@TuomasH Yeah, night scenes usually have artificial lighting coming out of nowhere, thats how filmmakers usually do night scenes... the very best night scenes actually.
@@wampyrelli In Mad Max Fury Road the night scenes were recorded in broad daylight and then darkened and given a blue hue to have a scene that is clearly set during night without losing any details.
Learn how to calibrate your TV, and your expectations!
HBO give the shitty writters unlimited money.
I'd love to see asoiaf animated series that sticks religiously to the books. That way they could include all the details like this without having to worry about budget constraints.
as long as it is no anime
He has other stories and books, maybe he should pitch those to some network
@@ariald869 why would it be made in Japan? It's a book in English 🤔
@@gianagordon165 sometimes they adapt it
@@gianagordon165 Supernatural, for example... They've made an anime out of it
When Martin coughs, I almost died.
he did too :P
I read this comment and he coughs exactly at the same time😳
SOMEBODY CALL A MEDIC
I'm more fascinating with 2:45
Abhimaneu
Why ?
an accurate short description would be: the throne resembles a cover of a black metal album
@@Littlebroarmydude Then tell me what is inside that temple of the "Det som engang var"-Cover
Trve Kvlt
@@S_O_O_C Dude you just blew my mind... Also Det som engang var is my favorite Burzum album.
@@user-ey1qj2wq1x 😭😭😭
you mean it resembles a black metal band's name
Seems like he knows alot about the game of thrones
Yeah i think he knows a little.
Someone won't get the joke
@@mikailconstantbilyamin1832 This is a joke?
@@noahriddell8031 because he knows EVERYTHING
He should write books about it
The Iron throne. The nightmare of the cleaning staff. Can you imagine how much dust this catches? And all the rust that you need to clean.
MrSoundSeeker i believe it was melted together with dragon fire? If thats the case then its almost similar to molten rock
Imagine getting into the crevices of the blades and pointing spots to dust😐
@@faultyclone0013
0:19
Rage Fury im going with the stories in the tv series
free tetanus. can't complain.
This guy is great seems like he read the whole series.
If only he could write the whole series... sadly, that'll probably never happen...
i think the problem was the budget for first season, later they couldn't change it cause you know, continuity reasons
cOugh COugh Mountain cough
They changed the statues at Vaes Dothrak. Season 1 they were about 15 feet tall and season 6 they were at least 100 feet tall.
The Three-eyed raven and The Children drastically changed from season to season.
the show didnt really boom till season 4 the first 3 they had no money fights where not even on screen.
@@Guyfromfakeland And it was so much better. Good story and dialogue over fights anyday of the week.
That throne looks sick not gonna lie
Looks a little ridiculous to me. Don't get me wrong, if Martin says that's the throne, that's the throne. But I remember a scene in the books where Ned, after he was injured, is sitting on it and his injury makes the experience even worse. But I don't remember any mention of anyone climbing the stairs on the throne. A man with injured leg would probably need 15 min to reach the top.
The throne is supposed to be painful and somewhat uncomfortable to sit on. Aerys II would get cuts from it regularly, and Tywin was said to sit on the first step when he was dictating as Hand in the books.
@@prushimush Ah, so there are steps. My bad then.
@@nevarran ofc there are u think Kings climb their way to the top and have bloody hands by the end
Looks so Metal
So this is what he's doing instead of writing the last book
The last book? You mean 6 of 7.
@@PapagenoMF 7? lol, do you still believe in that?
🤣🤣🤣
Should I read the books? Compared to the show how good are they? (I'm aware they're better jw by how much)
@@TheReplay324 yes. It's hard to point exactly what make it better.
But if it was to point one thing, I would say the PoV's. Martin narration is amazing. It's something you need to read by yourself.
Yeah I can see an armies worth of swords in this, not just like 30 or 40
Throne made from a thousand swords
@@iloveanothermanswives4278 *thousands
Of all the ASOIF artists, Simonetti is my favourite - his depiction of the fire at Summerhall with Rhaegar being born, Dany and Drogon in Daznak's Pit, Arya as the Ghost of Harrenhal and Dragonstone, as well as the Iron Throne shown here
I miss him so much in the show, season 8 is an insult to his genius
After the pictures based on his description of the throne the actual one in the series looks like a joke
I know that's crazy bc the one on the show looks awesome
But now its meh
Igor as is the whole show now
No fucking kidding...compared to the actual depiction. The iron throne in the show looks like a toddler's chair. Damn did they cut so many corners.
They should've pick Peter Jackson to handle Games of Thrones, instead of D&D, that's my opinion.
@@RedWolf777SG I think it's a little demanding to criticize the show for something that the series author says would have been completely impractical. If that level of accuracy to the books were insisted on you could never make the show to begin with. .
Love the “Ozymandius” reference, especially given the point of that great Shelley poem. He must be just so full of knowledge and he obviously loves slipping little hints like that.
I love how he references "ozymandias",, "look on my work, yee mighty and dispare" 1:15
Jake S
Ozymandias* Sorry I had to
@@YourFriendDevin Yh lol It was from memory thx tho
yes, who would've thought that authors read.
VS
Hey I never said I was perfect
I almost thought nobody else would notice
Easy to think how that could kill you. One missed step on the way down and you’re skewered… I like the idea of it…. As tall as it is, conveying such power, it can literally kill you if you aren’t responsible with your footing.
3:34 When Arthur Morgan first coughs in a play through.
SSSTTTTOOOOOPPPPPP!
Hahaha
OH NO DONT REMIND ME
420GreyWorm2187 wow
May I stand unshaken
You need to look at the Iron Throne in the TV show from the DP's perspective. They could have made it huge, tall with a bunch of steps, it wouldn't have cost that much more to do it that way, its all plywood and rubber anyways. But think about trying to get the shots, its hard to film a conversation between two people when one person is 15 feet on a platform above the other person. Also if the king(or queen) wants to whisper something to one of their advisers standing next to them, its kind of impossible if you're way up in the air.
Yea but he could go down and whisper then, it would still look bad ass, in my opinion if someone makes a series or a movie out of a book, do it like it's in the book, if don't why make the movie or the series in the first place, do it right or don't.
@@-Gous- it would look stupid as fuck
But think about it like this... how much plotting and scheming goes on in the thrown room??? How often does a person need to whisper.....cant think of too many scenes where the king or queen ,sitting on the throne, would need to whisper....maybe not 15 feet tall...but just a little taller would be satisfying..thr tv chair doesnt look that bad tho...but i see why GRRM had a vision for this kind of chair...
Yeah that's why I like the show version more, it looks more like a throne unlike the book one.
@@illogical1421 the book version looks like a throne to....you probably like it because it looks symmetrical....am i wrong?
No more interviews until you finish your dissertation, George!
No more commenting until you accomplish something...
@@thomas8099 I'm just assuming bruh like he's assuming GRRM isn't working or needs to get back to work....
Each of his books is several times longer than the average dissertation.
He is a targeryan, his hair tells it 🔥
There is something so wonderful and soothing on how descriptive he is when talking on one subject of the books, like a world exists in his mind. Beautiful
When he coughed I was like: Please be OK, we'd love to read Winds of Winter & Dream of Spring 🙏
Brilliant storyteller
I appreciate how while the show didnt recreate the iron throne as it was intended, they used the smaller throne as a deeper story device - Littlefinger’s conversation with Varys is great, “the iron throne is a story” it doesnt have 1000 blades, it doesnt even have 200, but we tell ourselves the story until we forget what’s true and what’s false. Varys also points out the story (and others like it) keeps the realm from decsending into chaos
He looks like grandmaster pyscel
Good thing he isn't as annoying as that wrinkly old doofus.
@@Sapsche 😂😂😂😂😂 slimey ass bastard
Ikr😂. they should have given him that role😁😂
Funny, he looked like Jon in his youth. Also he said he is writing Jon as himself.
Samwell Tarly when he gets old.
I love the way he talks and how he sounds. It perfectly fits the stereotypical idea of the hermit that writes somewhat nerdy versions of the medieval area.
This guy seems to know a lot about the Game of Thrones world, they should’ve hired him in to help write for the shows last season
I like it when authors have realistic expectations with live-action adaptations of their writings. Anne Rice is another author who was fine with the changes made for the live-action adaptation of ‘Interview with the Vampire’. It’s nice when people are able to set aside their egos for the big picture.
I'm happy with the design they went with in the show because of the scene where Tywin walks towards Joffrey to look down on him, literally and figuratively.
Imagine falling down the stairs on that thing
YOU DIED
That is the great thing about books, you don't have any of those restrictions or limitations. With a medium like books or even animation, your allowed to let your imagination run wild well also telling the story you intend to tell with as much as scale or detail as needed. There is nothing to restrain you. Its why i also love the medium of anime for that very reason or comic books/manga and novels over live action TV show drama's.
Artimes X or you put in shitty CGI to solve it
I didn’t do it for Games Of Thrones, but that is why I like to read the books before I see the movies or TV Show.
so basically Dany's description was spot on
That throne looks genuinely frightening. So badass.
Martin is a genius. He was accurately writing about amazon warehouses in the early 90's.
One day in the future, someone is gonna CGI the shit out of his ideas from this interview and give this throne the justice it is due.
The producers could have put a little more effort into the throne room, IMO. It's always seemed a little small and insignificant, relative to what it's supposed to represent. And then, after seeing other throne rooms, like the pyramid of Meereen, it seems downright puny. You only have to climb 3 steps to get to the iron throne, and then it's just a regular metal armchair.
Budget
@@firstLast-jw7bm for a first season? I find it hard to belive, could you refer me to your source?
@@firstLast-jw7bm changing the throne? The flagship symbol of the show? With no explanation to how or why within the show's logic?
Way to complex and expensive and only to apeal to a small percentage of die hard fans, the original throne is also hideous and huge, very noticeable of a change .
The one we got is fine, it doesnt have the same impact as the original but in this re imagining it doesnt need to.
@@firstLast-jw7bm turning the night king red wouldn't fly, changing the throne wouldn't fly either, artistic change in such a drastic way wouldn't work without An entire rewrite to why it happend.
And budget wise, everything needs to fit into a number, go beyond that and there is no profit, look at god of war, game had a huge budget but the director couldn't add everything he wanted to the game becouse of budget .
@@firstLast-jw7bm if you can't win an argument, petty insults won't give you the upper hand, either convince me otherwise or don't even bother replaying.
Man the details this man puts into his work!
A TRUE ARTIST
Marc Simonetti's Iron Throne illustration. *How George RR Martin saw it in his vision* . That alone is enough to say the show can't even begin to compare to the books
I like the way he understood why it wasn't possible instead of just moaning like people expect
It's almost as if he's a reasonable person like most other people on this planet.
Crazy.
@@bakersmileyface not the asoiaf fans tho.
@@karljonson3287 Oh how great, u know every asoiaf fan? I don't seem to recall you
@@Sandra-we5lq They're a fickle bunch.
As stated in both the books and in the show, the only swords that Aegon did not collect from the kings that submitted to him was the swords from the North.
I wonder if he was inspired by napoleon's quote "you can build a throne of bayonets...but you can't sit on it for long"
They 100% can make this throne on the show using CGI. They can just make the regular stairs like in HOTD and CGI all the swords on it. They don’t have to build all the swords on it
If I had to guess, the iron throne was inspired by the Byzantine emperors (eastern Roman emperors) throne that towered very high in the air whenever he/she gave audiences.
This guy is a genius, he should write his own show😥
He has trouble writing his own books let alone a show lol
@@EpidemicPainoh yeah! l know this comment is 3 years ago... the creator of The GOFT have a creative mind to build up the world views of his stories. I bet you can't create a creative story as him.
Looks like house of the dragon made some cool changes to the throne we’re used to seeing on screen by adding all the swords on the ground and making the throne more jagged
Marc Simonetti did this Illustration, like George Mentionned, very cool artwork.
IT IS INSANE THAT THIS CAME FROM ONE MANS MIND. I started binging thrones during season 6.....I can’t even imagine how much more I would love this show if i were watching from the beginning.
A lot of people’s minds
judrt that’s true because when you look up the author of got and it says George r r Martin the R’s actually stand for Robert and randy. They’re his two best friends but they’re invisible. Idk how you knew about them! Good job!
Someone make him a channel so we can watch him react to recent episodes, i bet he's shaking his fist
A single site of such a throne would send chills down anybody's spine that thing is terrifying
“To build this monstrosity would blow the budget of an entire episode.”
There, now you can stop complaining about the HBO version not looking like this one.
It makes me really angry that they messed up the throne. There is a huge difference and it's arguably the most important thing in the show. They could easily have done it with special fx - BS excuse about the set not being big enough. I would like to see the entire Game of Thrones redone properly when the books are completed. Maybe it could be done as a series of movies LOTR style. It deserves better.
@@Naughtystimpy You really need to calm down, sir.
2:44 when you're hungover and mid conversation you feel it coming up.
Lol
Ironic how he started writing GOT to get away from the limitations of writing TV in Hollywood, then those very limitations creeped back into Game of Thones when it became a show. But George clearly understands how this works, and it's cool that now we have an amazing show (first half), and something left to the imagination of the readers as well.
tv show made something so dang iconic
I love the way he talks. Reminds me of another great American writer, Robert Anton Wilson.
Problembeing
I think of an even greater writer. The Dr. Seuss.
That throne is so sick
Wgaf
This throne is way more menacing
2:46 When I give my dog a piece of my food that he’s been begging for but when he tries it he just vomits it back up
This man must be protected at all costs
I mean, the work they've done with green screens and digital effects on this show, I think they could pull of a worthy looking Iron Throne. I'm not sure if the early seasons had the budget that they have now though.
even still, it would definitely be out of place in the red keep they use for the show.
This guy should write a book.
I had never read the books before seeing the show, and I started watching about 5 years after it started, but I remember hearing something about the iron throne being a towering mass of swords, so when I saw it for the first few times in the show, I had no idea it was the iron throne, I kept waiting to see it, not knowing that I already saw it multiple times.
I think its feasible (although obviously very difficult and time consuming) to do a "real" version like this image/description using computer graphics. I wonder if anyone has already attempted that?
"Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!" - Ozymandias
Did you say ozzyman? The true don.
So it was supposed to be like the diamond throne from Hermitcraft S7
Pretty much. The Diamond Throne was collected by the spoils of the hermits' fortune by law of Iskall. It is the symbol of the Cowmercial District and who shall ever be mayor must sit carefully on the mad chair of riches.
Also, nice to meet you fellow hermit on this side of youtube.
Game of thrones had 5 Kings, hc has 6 mayoral candidates, or 5 if you don't count doc.
Science Snap
Doc hasn’t played in ages (so no, I don’t count him)
even Dany said in the end, she as a child imaged it huge
What did he say at 2:46?
I'm dying 😂😂😂
Lmaooo
In this "jshsjsvs" .
In this “hllzzgg”
In this hhhhhhhwww
The book one looks more awesome but the one in the show is still very iconic. You can understand the reasons to why they made it smaller. Having a good story though, doesn't take up budget so there's really no excuse for that.
Such beautiful symbolism of power, no matter how good the person who sits in it is the chair is always evil
Whenever this man coughs, people are sweating profusely.
I really want CD Projekt Red to make this a game after Cyberpunk!
DarshUK why would they
promethea why wouldn’t they fuck stick?
That's one of the best ideas I've heard this year
Totally agree
This unfortunately didn't age well
I think the big version makes more sense, because the say it was forged and melted by a dragon, and it makes more sense that it has been done on this huge throne of swords rather than the little symetric almost perfect throne in the series
Wow, that looks absolutely amazing. Imagine the show but with that beast right there. It would be way cooler when someone sits on it. Bro chills, literal chills 😩
This is why Game of Thrones should have been an animated series with a massive budget.
The throne from the show is still very iconic. Both are very cool.
Wow this guy really studied up on GoT, he could probably make a whole book about the show.
I cant tell if you're beeing sarcastic or serious
@@user-kr8ky5rf1l then you’re stupid
They could've done the throne in CGI as much as people may object to that, but all things are possible done digitally.
Well we are finally getting an animation property of Game of thrones and you watch. The imaginative scale detail of the world and objects is easy to pull off in animation Vs live tv show. I honestly can't wait to see this animated.
Still kinda sad about season 8. Maybe they'll make it up with their upcoming mini-series... I hope so at least :(
Well to be honest the show's throne would be more close to what a blacksmith would've done, they were highly skilled craftmen (at least the ones a lord would hire) so you should expect things like symmetry and at least to have an general shape, not saying his design is wrong, it's just that the reason it's not quite believable
2:46 A PIGMAN, JERRY! A PIGMAN!!
This gave me chills
The show made dragons and giants but can't make a cgi chair?
I thought exactly the same
No.
@@julianblake8385 No.
Exactly?
You have to pick where to spend your budget. That CGI chair would have been a PITA to work with as much as it is in the show as the actors would probably have to deal with some sort of green screen setup on a false mock chair or stands and if you're having to build that then why not just make a real chair that's cheaper to build? The effects work to have that chair in the all the shots it is in would have been expensive as hell, especially with all of the actors cross in front and behind it in various scenes. Even the scenes with the tiniest glimpse of the chair in the background would have required CGI work. If you're time and budget limited is that really where you want someone's focus to be on?
The throne in the show is epic, honestly. But this... HOLY SHIT THAT LOOKS INCREDIBLY EPIC (if you didn't know increadebly epic is 10-15 leagues above normal epic, just to inform you) !!!!
fitting it in a studio would be impossible sure but george underestimates the practical effects prop makers and CGI people. they could totally make that throne. they wouldnt even have to to all of it if you were short on time too, just build the frame the stairs and the seat and do the rest with CGI. and if it needs to be moved make it come apart into pieces.
Every time George R.R. Martin coughs, I get nervous. This man better not die before he finishes these books!
He mentions Littlefinger in a tone of voice which assumes that the listener knows that he is the protagonist.
TheBlackClockOfTime littlefinger as the protagonist? What!!!???
He isn't
"When i was a girl, my brother told me it was made with 1000 swords from Aegon's fallen enemies. What do 1000 swords look like in the mind of a little girl who can't count to 20? I imagined a mountain of swords too high to climb. So many fallen enemies, you could only see the soles of Aegon's feet". - The Mad Queen before she was murdered.
George by far has the most accurate fan fiction on this series called Game of Thrones.
I'm going build it! Watch this space.
If you build it he will come
2:44 Say what now?
I'm a Titanic fernatic and I jumped at that statement
hchhchole
"in this hchhcchhchchchchchhhooolle"
"[...] the hulls of the ships in this hall."
Hhhhhhhcchole
This dude doesn’t look like he’ll live to finish another book.
We will never see the end of this book series. Never.
So they made the show just for Bran the Cripple so he won't have to go 10 feet on the throne to sit on it 🤦🏻♂️