Emporia Vue Energy Monitor - Gen 3 vs. Gen 2 - NEW FOR 2024

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  • Опубліковано 19 кві 2024
  • In this video, Chris compares two generations of the Emporia Vue energy monitor, installs the newest model and shows how it works.
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  • @Mulderfactoring
    @Mulderfactoring 22 дні тому

    Great video. Just ordered mine. Had a major solar system installed last year. Finally getting full monitoring between production/usage and now our main subpanel in The farmhouse. I can now monitor the barn and the individual circuits within the house. Excellent information and very much appreciate it! Keep up the good work.

  • @Obtuse94
    @Obtuse94 2 місяці тому +1

    Excited for this review! Was right on the verge of picking up one.

    • @Obtuse94
      @Obtuse94 2 місяці тому

      If gen 3 maxes at 16 circuits how many did gen 2 max at?

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  2 місяці тому +1

      Same. They both can handle up to 16 branch circuits.

  • @marcobaldanza2332
    @marcobaldanza2332 2 місяці тому

    thanks handydad, i'm sold!

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  2 місяці тому

      Glad it was helpful 👍🏻

  • @rioosodog
    @rioosodog Місяць тому

    Niceeee... vid. Well done. I have the Gen 2 and it works simply great!

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  Місяць тому

      I’d been using the Gen 2 for years and it was great.

  • @TDHobbies
    @TDHobbies Місяць тому

    I bought the version 3 using your link below, you earned it as I wanted to know how this thing worked AND, nothing in the box really told me where to hook up the main supply wires. LOL...Install was easy, I have a 30 place box, 3 double breakers, a place to power this unit, it did get crowded, but not too bad, connecting the device to the app and network went fast and flawless, it logged in and booted up instantly. I am short a few items, but I chose the most important and don't really think I need a second kit for the last 4 things. Thanks for doing the video, this company got their money worth sending you the kit. BTW my balance is pretty good so far, I gotta crank everything up and test it out under full load! This stuff is fun to mess with!

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  Місяць тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for using my link. 🥰

  • @tjam4229
    @tjam4229 2 місяці тому +1

    Emporia should come up with a system that allows twice as many CT sensors! Say 32 sensors. Nowadays, many electrical panels have 40 circuits.
    It would be a no-brainer from their standpoint. They already have everything developed. Just increase price by 50% to cover the extra sensors. They’d probably profit even more.

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  Місяць тому +1

      Not sure how they chose 16 as the max for one unit.

  • @flyntmyrick6291
    @flyntmyrick6291 2 місяці тому +4

    I use a Sense energy monitor at my house and it is slow to recognize electrical devices. The Emporia Vue is an interesting device.

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  2 місяці тому +1

      It’s a different approach than Sense.

  • @fate711
    @fate711 2 місяці тому +3

    Nice video! You did a really good job detailing everything. Did you end up using the ethernet cable or are you using the wifi connection?

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  Місяць тому

      I have strong WiFi in my garage because the router is in the laundry room adjacent.

  • @jeffmucha
    @jeffmucha Місяць тому +1

    One thing I did on my vue 2 was combine two breaker circuits into one current clamp channel to have better coverage with only 16 channels. You get the combination sum of both circuits as a result. It sums the current. If you do this make sure you put clamp on the circuits that share the same split phase connection. If you don’t they will not add, they will cancel each other out.

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  Місяць тому

      I never thought of that! Thanks for the tip!

  • @drvcrash
    @drvcrash 2 місяці тому

    Nice review. I have the Sense currently and im in the process of a renovation thinking of adding the Emporia. I like the sense web app a lot but wish it did better at device detection

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  2 місяці тому +2

      They take different approaches. If Sense adds circuit CTs, it could fine tune the device detection and be a really killer product.

  • @ryan39584
    @ryan39584 Місяць тому

    Great Video, Gen 3 looks worth it

  • @tjam4229
    @tjam4229 2 місяці тому

    Hi, thanks for all of the valuable info!
    Two Questions:
    Did you have to buy extra CT sensor clips for your Solar System?
    Is there a way you analyze more than 16 circuits?
    I gave 32 separate circuits in my electrical panel (about 8 of those are double breakers)

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  Місяць тому +1

      I don’t think you can buy CTs individually. They come with the VUE.
      Pretty sure you can use multiple VUEs but they may appear as two separate houses.

  • @kuhrd
    @kuhrd 2 місяці тому +1

    I wonder if they have it setup to use a gen 2 and gen 3 together. I know you could use a multiple of the gen 2 units but it was a bit clunky in the app. I would love to add a gen 3 as the main one and then use my gen 2 for all of the remaining circuits.

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  2 місяці тому +1

      You can definitely use them together but it will treat them as two different houses.

  • @bobbymele9057
    @bobbymele9057 Місяць тому

    Do you know if you can install two units and run them on same app account if you more than 16 circuits? Great video thanks for taking time to make.

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  Місяць тому +1

      I’m not sure so I’m checking with the company.

    • @josephlee9008
      @josephlee9008 21 день тому

      ​@@handydadtv did you ever get an answer to this?

  • @TDHobbies
    @TDHobbies Місяць тому

    I want solar on my roof, Ranch house, no trees blocking my roof and the sun (when it's not cloudy) is shining down all day long. Besides, those panels might block some heat in summer... ahh but what happens in winter when it's always cloudy and snow get's on them? Great video, I think I am going to get this thing, I want to use in home assistant, just so I have one GUI to view all my stuff.
    Thanks for doing this video, I just found this product and wanted some information about it (4/30/24) One more thing, I rewired a lot of my house and not 100% sure if I have each leg well balanced, this device will help with that too.

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  Місяць тому +1

      I never thought of the leg rebalancing use case! I gotta look into that. Thanks!

  • @mikestolorena5574
    @mikestolorena5574 15 днів тому

    Nice video. Can you use it to monitor certain circuits? Example: I have a well pump that is powered through my breaker box, and instead of installing a water monitoring device, I can just do this and monitor if the pump is operating when it shouldn't be, or for periods of time that is incorrect. If the pump isn't running, not that much water can leak, but if the pump is running continuously, regardless of where the leak is, I have a big problem. Example: can you have the program send you an alert if it runs above so many amps / hour, or runs for so many minutes? Also, if you have two breaker boxes, do you just run the wires somehow to across the two boxes, or does that create a problem. Thank you.

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  14 днів тому +1

      Yes, you can have it send notifications if usage on a circuit goes above or below a threshold over a certain period of time.
      I use that feature to let me know if my electric range has been left on too long, or if my refrigerator stops running.

  • @normkirk65
    @normkirk65 Місяць тому

    Does the Vue gen 3 or the app show the actual, real time voltage ? It must calculate the power consumption using a voltage measurement with the CT's but it would be nice if it provided a readout on the app of the voltage.

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  Місяць тому

      You can find Volts under Units of Measurement.

  • @suvitsharma
    @suvitsharma 5 годин тому

    Can you use this in Canada.

  • @normkirk65
    @normkirk65 Місяць тому

    I'm confused. On the installation instructions on the app, it states to use two CT's ( one on each leg ) of a double pole breaker for better accuracy yet on the provided "Helpful Tips" card ( inside the box on the top when you first open it ) it states " Connect to only one lead,then use a multiplier in the app"

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  Місяць тому

      The only place I saw that said to use one on each leg was for solar.

  • @davidmatten8519
    @davidmatten8519 13 днів тому

    do the instructions explain that if you are going to use the Ethernet connector, that the Emporia box should probably be kept outside the panel, since you aren't supposed to run Low Voltage and Line Voltage in the same enclosure, without a suitable separator of some kind?
    I'm not an electrician, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, last night, and this came up when I installed a gang box with both AC, Ethernet and coax (from different conduits, but into the same box).

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  12 днів тому

      Makes sense but I’m not sure.

  • @lksamdr
    @lksamdr 2 місяці тому

    Can it show the voltage measurements in 3 phase circuits ?

  • @apex007
    @apex007 2 місяці тому

    I still stand by my comments for your first review :)

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  2 місяці тому

      I guess I’ll have to go look back.

  • @jeffmucha
    @jeffmucha Місяць тому

    Did you notice better accuracy? I have a gen 2 and they do some hand waving about what is “zero power use.” For example, many things draw tiny amounts of power just to be plugged in. I think they say if it is less than the error budget, let’s call that zero power. Did you notice higher accuracy or the ability to see tiny loads that you couldn’t before? Can you tell if a cell phone charger is using 2 watts or 1 watt?

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  Місяць тому

      I didn’t do a head to head test. I have to trust their data.

  • @Obtuse94
    @Obtuse94 2 місяці тому

    Have you considered or with the Gen 2 flashing with ESPHome?

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  2 місяці тому

      I’ve considered it but I’m very happy with their app. And I can export the data to do my own analysis.

    • @rajambavane9164
      @rajambavane9164 18 днів тому

      That's exactly what I did. The only thing I like about 3 that I don't about 2 is the instead of a pin it's more secure connection. But I am sure the new one probably will take time to have esphome flashed. Love esphome on the 2nd gen.

  • @rtsolution11
    @rtsolution11 2 місяці тому

    Nowhere I can find shows the length of the wires for the sensors. Any way you can provide that?

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  2 місяці тому +1

      Gen 2 was 39” so Gen 3 is approximately 42”.

    • @rtsolution11
      @rtsolution11 2 місяці тому

      @@handydadtv Thank you

  • @johnknauerify
    @johnknauerify 2 місяці тому

    Can two of these units be used together? I have a sub panel.

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  2 місяці тому

      Yes but they will appear as two homes.

  • @ModernExcuses
    @ModernExcuses 2 місяці тому

    Is it worth upgrading over gen 2?

    • @handydadtv
      @handydadtv  2 місяці тому

      Not unless you really need Ethernet.

  • @thewolf61691
    @thewolf61691 2 місяці тому

    Still using eyedro, only on mains though