This is how I play Modern metal with a beginners $30 amp
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- Опубліковано 26 кві 2022
- I run my guitar signal through an amp modeler, which is probably the most expensive thing after the guitar. The 10 watt amp is just a speaker a this point.
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The proper thing would be to use studio monitors instead of a generic amp, but this is my solution for now. If you are on a budget, amp modelers can save the day because you only need to buy an audio interface and the plugin instead of amp, mics, pedals, etc.
You don't need anything crazy for a computer, but it needs to be able to handle the plugin without latency. That is pretty much how I record my videos for now but the rig will keep getting better overtime.
Would you be able to just play on the computer with head phones with the audio interface and get theb same sounds??
Interesting. A guitarist could just bring a PC or laptop computer with an amp modeler and audio interface and plug that into a mixing board at a stage, church, club, arena, or venue, instead of bringing in a huge tube amp rig with a pedal board.
@@joec8057 yes.
I have a Laney tube half stack sitting in the garage. Haven’t used it in years. Plug-ins are definitely the way to go!
@@place_desjardins I know a few church people who have been doing just that for a while.
How to make a $30 dollar beginner amp sound good: Use a $180 interface, a $100 plugin, and a $??? dollar computer
You can find this interface for 80
@@goblator4186 Well the overall idea stays the same
@@catalinvoronca689 You need an interface and a computer to record guitar period. It's a moot point. It harms their argument when they don't even get the prices right.
Plugins closer to 200
@@Snavels I was responding to gobaltor, event if the interface costs 80 instead of 180 that is a minor changes cause you have to add many more expensive tools. We are saying the same thing.
I’ve heard that many great solos were recorded using small practice amps.
“Heartwork” by Carcass incorporated Marshall Mini Stacks into the rhythm tone for upper end clarity, apparently
Cry For You by Andy Timmons was recorded on a small battery-powered practice amp when he couldn't get the actual large tube amp they were gonna use originally into the studio in time.
Starting from Jimi Page from Led Zeppelin
For the first two albums by the Strokes Julian Casablancas sang through a small practice amp and they recorded that.. that's how they got the distorted vocals
some of queen's most classic solos - I want to say everything from A Night at the Opera - we're recorded from Brian May's guitar into a old stereo speaker and recorded in a tiny bathroom
Guys, the amp is not used as an amp, its just used for the SPEAKER, not AMPLIFICATION.
So would a cabinet work if you directly plugged it in
@@ChoomMedia nah, not really
Edit: After giving it some thought, hell yea u probably could, but I guess it's just awkward going from a interface to a cab... but it should work
But in this way your amp is used not only as an external speaker, as i understand, because you send your guitar signal from plugin to guitar input of an amp, where it goes through preamp and amp section of the amp itself.
yes and you can put it on the clean channel to try not to mess the tone up completely
Redefining rhythm guitar playing! Much love my guy!
This is the most insane thing I've ever seen on guitar... EVER! This will save me A LOT. Thank you!
Bro I was literally trying to find out how to do this in my head the other day and you post this..you’re a life saver man.
How did you figure this out
This was actually really helpful thank you
What an amazing trick! Definitely should try that out!
That’s really cool man!
I NEVER thought of doing that!!
Good, because it's a really bad way of doing things and it can mess upp your amp. Do NOT do it this way.
Your content is so... practical and helpful... and the fact that it comes with such a bad ass metal soundtrack... man.
Mark my words this channel is gonna blow up. You just keep doing you :)
Another solution to consider depending on your needs is something like the Hotone Ampero One, which you can find used sometimes for around the same price as a Scarlett 2i2. While the Ampero One CAN also be used as an audio interface, it's not as versatile as a Scarlett (no XLR or 48v phantom power) BUT has really great built-in amp, cab, and pedal simulations without the need for a computer connected for easier quick practice sessions, and has absolutely zero latency. If you go straight into the front of an amp, make sure you turn off cab sim to prevent weird resonances and get the amp's EQ as neutral as you can. If connecting to a computer (Modeler or Audio Interface) make sure you look up ASIO drivers for Windows to reduce latency as much as you can.
That's pretty cool, getting the most out of technology
Well this taught me alot
I've found that using a small combo practice amp combined with a cab sim of some sort, be it mooer solo or any other kind of cab simulation, you can actually get some really nice sounds as the speaker of the shi--y cab sounds harsh thus adding a cab sim smooths out all of these nasty frequencies.
The same benefit can be achieved doing the opposite, the practice amp as a head and using the headphones output to plug it into a cab sim.
Yo he notado que al usar un simulador de cabinas, como el mooer solo, podemos hacer que cualquier amplificador genérico suene bien ya que las bocinas de éstos tienden a sonar muy estridente o brillante, cosa que se va al poner el simulador de cabina que "suaviza" el sonido.
This doesn't make any sense. What you're talking about is the line out from the preamp. Normally that goes through the speaker in the combo. You're just replacing that with a cabsim.
I use amplitube as my practice amp or for headphone jamming. The only amp that is can really be quiet enough for night time is the katana which i can drop to like half a watt or something. May try this with my bass amp but I'm gonna go straight into the power amp instead of the input. edit: I gave this a try today (05/03/22) and it kinda sounded like shit. Might have to toy with it a bit tried both the loop and regular input so idk whats up i'll potentially look into it but whatever not much of an issue for me. Thought it would be a neat project.
That's neat. My first practice amp was some shit from Sears and I bought some pedals. Most notably, the MT-2. Before the pedals, I ran it through my parents home stereo. (Don't tell them.) About 1990 or so. Young me would have killed for the use of computers and plug ins. So much can be done now. BTW, some one stole my MT-2 before I left Seattle. May they rot in hell. It's cool you are showing people how to rock from their bedrooms. Edit: current set up: Orange Micro Dark through a Harvey Benton using a Behringer copy of my lost pedal.
my exact setup 😂
audio interfaces are so worth it
I like those percussive acoustic sound... Bet it'll sound 10x better on new strings.
just listed most of my pedals for sale today, diving into the box.
I've been doing the same thing with my small orange crush and same focusrite audio interface for years now. It's actually a great sounding mid priced setup 😂
You can hear strums louder that actual guitar sound, overall good 👍
Makes it feel more like a lesson in the room that way. Idk If that's the intention or not but considering what it is, that noise seems appropriate
nice, i run an EX200 with the het set into my interface (same as yours, 3rd gen), into bias fx 2 or other software of my choice and out both left and right outputs on the interface into my alesis elevate 5 mkii monitors.
Hi Sebastian, you are able to get that sound from that amp because of the audio interface correct ? Love your tones
well, the interface makes it possible to play the amp-simulation from the PC to the 30 bucks amp. With just an interface and amp you wouldn't get any different sound than without an interface, straight to the amp.
The "amp" is just acting as an awkward computer speaker. Any other speaker would sound the same. The tone comes from NeuralDSP.
You don't need a great audio interface to use NeuralDSP. A $30 Rocksmith guitar-to-usb cable would do the job just as well.
@@icedragon769 ohh ok, i never undertsood digital plugins when they have nothing to do with the amp itself. Thanks a lot !!
@@icedragon769 That's what I used to use before I got a THR30II.
Now it's just that. Used to use my Katana MKII 50. But the Yamaha does all that I require. Plus, it plugs directly in via USB negating the need for my 2i2............
@@icedragon769 They work, but the quality is absolute dogshit. If you have a choice, use an interface
some advice, if you're using ASIO don't use the focusrite drivers at all. I recommend flexasio for it as you can finely tune everything but it does take a bit of configuration to get done. ASIO4ALL does I think work but you'll run into problems. Though that could be an issue with my voicemeeter and asio4all setup, I just prefer the open-source alternative (flexasio) as it works better for me.
i just got a kemper the other day its a bit weird at first but i definitely recommend one.
Ayyy you have the exact same audio interface as me :D
💯💯💯
That's exactly what I do, lol. But my amp is 22w and I actually use the AUX in from the amp to plug the computer in.
I don't plan buying monitors anytime soon, if anything I like my shitty amp in the chain.
I use Amplitube 5.
🔥🔥🔥
Yeah, that's works
I use a Fender Mustang MICRO headphone mini-amp. Instead of headphones, I use a JBL GO 2 Bluetooth speaker and a ten foot patch cable with 3.5mm male plugs on both ends. The newer JBL GO 3 speakers don't have a hard wired input jack, it has to be the JBL GO 2. The Fender mini-amp is way better than I thought it would be and these little JBL speakers are phenomenal. If you want to practice without headphones AND without rattling the neighbor's windows, nothing beats this set-up. I originally cobbled it all together by accident, really. Just seeing what works with what. I frequently toss it all in a gig bag and go play downtown or by the lake or wherever.
btw how would it work as dual tracker? on 2 channel interface (xlr+line) make chain as you did but also record on second channel amp with mic for more depth?
That’s little gallop riff kinda sounded like Mesuggah
I like how your playing sounds like a muscle car idling.
Why is your gain turned down on the interface? I'm quite curious
Hmm. I did it the same way except I hava JHS splitter to split the guitar input to both audio interface and the amp. The amp is purely for zero latency monitoring to hear myself while the audio interface is for recording.
Try turning off the cali's IR. You don't need it, since it's going into a guitar speaker.
so you use the generic amp as a gain boost plus post eq in a sense?
I think the amp is just a speaker so he doesn't need headphones; the raw audio from the guitar is sent to both the amp and PC, and sound shouldn't be coming back through the amp.
@@joshcelnik Not the raw audio, it's the plugin audio.
Would i get the same sound if i go interface into cab for cab speaker and not the 10w amp one haha ?
Dosent plugin in the amp through the out of audio interface mess up the amp .? I’m not very sure could u pls clear this for me and amazing playing 😄🙌🏽
that's my question too. Aren't you risking blowing up the amp by running an amplified signal through the guitar input?
Las simulaciónes de pedal amplificador como puedo conseguirlas?
I wanna do this for my bass (I own a bass amp) but can the digital amp sims potentially mess up the amp?
This is the philosophy of WHATEVER WORKS, WORKS, MAKE IT YOUR OWN AXE SOLIDIFY, START PUTTING INTO WORK
Impressive, very nice.
Let's see Paul Allen's Setup
I sold my amp long ago and stop playin but short while ago i wanna play again and bought a behringer um2 (cheapest) and an headphone then i love that really love it. I even tried record it but now i wanna hear it without headphone. So i am planning to get cheap 10-15 watt amp.
Idk it’s gonna work or not
Should get a 6505+ Combo
Do you have any suggestions for cables and audio interfaces?
exactly the same here, but with archetype gojira
How do u get dsp to line up so well? I can’t play without a bunch of latency
You taped your camera to your head for those last couple shots didn't you 😂
how do you connect your guitar to the pc? and what app are u using?
Did the exact same but somehow my amp or interface is picking up some nasty background noise, not sure what it is tho
You... MIGHT have just accidentally taught me the thing that I've wanted to figure out for a year now: how to use my tablet and Bias FX 2 on stage.
Been trying to get this to work for days and idk why it won’t,I have speakers but there’s such a delay it’s unplayable so I want to run the amp sim through my audio interface so it can come out my amp but it won’t work for the life of me the audio only comes out my speakers
45.7k subscribers with this set up. See guys ? It's no all about gear
What DAW do you use
Poggers
Cool man, I tought I was the only one. I use my 10w amp as a speaker. Even worse my interface is a Behringer UM2 lol
Wait a minute... I also have a Behringer UM2 and a 10w Amp. Can I do the same of the video without consequences?
Honestly I don't know, but I dont think it is bad for the amp, I just used the amp cause I wanted to use amplitube and I didn't have speakers to use with the interface, and it just worked out
@@Downpickeverything I tried it after reading your comment, and it worked for me. Thanks bro :)
I'm doing the same with focusrite interface but my amp is making noise whenever i plug it in...
I’ve been doing that for years now. But then I got tired of eqing so I got monitors instead.
What does the amp sound like on its own?
so u put everything at noon on the beginners amp so it doesn't change the tone from your digital amps?
Do it flat if you are using something else for effects. Then tweek it.
tone gets colored anyway by the amp's circuit
run it through the fx return, that's how it sounds best.
what guitar do u use
Is the amp clean? Why not just go straight into the interface?
I could always tell it’s a shitty little amp your playing on but you make it work enough, can’t wait to hear you on a proper rig
This is already a proper rig: being played through a cheap speaker and recorded through a cheap microphone. The amp simulator is the thing that's making the sound, he could record the output of the plugin instead of recording through a phone mic and it would sound far more "professional", but chooses not to.
@@icedragon769 he just said that he does both and blends it together. Kinda like the additional "in the room sound with strings and picking noise"
@@icedragon769 get this man a 4x12
@@brenk9161 wouldn't matter. None of this matters.
Unless you are physically in the room with the cab it won't matter.
Most the time only one or two speakers from a 4x12 are micked. Not to mention the mic is alps not your individual ear. Then there's whatever that's added in production and editing.
The most important part is what you're using to play the audio through.
you could literally ditch the amp and just use regular speaker or even earphone lol. the main course is the interface and plugin. might even make a video about playing metal without an amp at all. crazy
How much is the plugin?
bruh i use basically the same setup but what i do is i have an amp with a tone i like and then i plug that into my interface and the shitty little amp into the interface
I do the same thing
me to
So essentially: VST amp head, physical guitar cab? Interesting solution.
@@dennis4113 Sure, but if you use a better gab that seems still fine. Might as well ditch the cab simulation in that case … naturally nothing wrong with using monitors instead and keep the amp sim, plenty of options for every budget.
more like vst amp head, cab sim trough combo amp
I had an eleca 15w amp and it was the worst, shittiest amp I've ever had. And it was glorious, I came up with some of the filthiest stoner grooves on that little beast. I miss it so much, it was the little amp that could.
I had a 15 watt behringer amp and a silvertone single coil strat I got some filthy 80's proto Black Metal/Thrash Metal tones on that set up
I mean, it feels like cheating, but technically, it wasn't!! Hahahaha... Just wasn't what I'd expect! Great video!
How can u have sound from a pc
Need more gain
Cheap audio interface and reaper with a ton of free VSTs. always playing through my headphones, I have imo a sick tone with no delay, and the only thing I paid for was the guitar and audio interface. Going digital is awesome.
no latency at all? what audio interface did u get
@@akiani I just got the best rated one on Amazon that was adorable. The focusrite scarlett. There is no noticable delay for me, and I was even just using the USB output on my crappy amp along with FlexASIO for a while. I do have a powerful CPU in my PC which is likely a big factor to having no delay with no audio chopping or glitching.
@@metalloriff I see, I'll definitely get that one. Thank you! Planning to try out neural dsp with just an audio interface lol.
@@akiani No problem! If you have discord, I can answer any questions you might have there a lot faster there, if you do get the interface and experience any delay or issues. And if you need any help setting up or want to see my setup, I'd love to show it!
If I want to do the same thing, but instead of playing through headphones, can I just use an usb powered speaker connected to the pc?
is there any latency w this ?
if so how would u reduce it
lowering the sample rate/block size on the Audio interface
i tried setting this up and plugging my focusrite's output to my amp sounds pretty staticky. anyone know how i can fix this?
replace the cable
How do you avoid latency between what you are playing and the speaker sound?
you need an interface that supports ASIO.
interfaces usually have their own drivers to handle that latency
well, i'm playing with the same solution 🤣🤣
isn't it dangerous for the amp to run audio directly from the computer to its line input? Aren't amps designed to handle line signals like a guitar produces?
Thats true, NEVER run a line signal to an guitar amp, only instrumemt signal
No, this isn't dangerous. The worst case scenario is that the level is too high or too low, which would make for bad tone, but isn't dangerous.
@@nairanvac79 its not dangerous but he might ruin the preamp section of his amp
@@DragonboltBlastter It's fine but you should start with having both your source and amp on the lowest volume then gradually increasing it
Get a reamp box
!!!!!
Bro, I want to connect a bluetooth headphone in my audio interface (or something, so I can listen to my guitar on them) but the bluetooth adapter has a looot of latency. Do you have any suggestion?
Also, thanks for the content.
Bluetooth headphones already have high latency by default, not really much you can do there.
You'd need a different pair of headphones with cables to connect to your interface, sadly.
@@childcemetery9937 nooooooo I can't stand cables anymore ;-; hahahaha oh, well..
Life goes on.
Thanks :D
Bluetooth headphones will always have too much latency for playing, nothing you can do. Even premium headphones have 40ms latency which is very audible.
So you just use your amp as a speaker? How do you combat the latency?
ASIO drivers :)
With a decent PC you can get the roundtrip under 15ms.
@@lynxxlynxx oh. Nvm then. I get 2-5ms (according to FL Studio) and the delay is quite noticeable.
I bet the reportEd latency isnt accurate
I run my project at 192khz with asio4all det at a sample rate of 64
@@Mirinmaru I don't like asio4all, in my case it's overall about 4 times slower than the proprietary driver. (Behringer UPhoria in my case.)
@@lynxxlynxx I have the Behringet UMC 202HD and as far as I know there is no proprietary drivers or software.
Where do I find these?
Why not just use normal speakers?
This is how I play Modern metal with a beginners $30 amp:
I don't.
The thumbnails are obstructing the last 5 seconds of the video
What’s all that shaking 😭😭😭🤣💀 is the amp really that powerful?
Some noob is going to plug the powered connection from their amp into an audio interface and blow it up after watching this. Source: I was the noob when I was young.
I guys having amps?
POV: chad 2020s bedroom musicians
is there any ppl who still looking for good tones on a real amp without a pc?
Those who have money to surpass the quality of plugins
Are you a gamer too?
Bro just forgot to tell us that you need a 180 interface and 1000 pc
Link to your interface
focusrite
@@Inn0IWNL thanks
@@darksoulwarrior9662 looks like focusrite solo
Nb
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