Lincoln Electric MIG Pak Welder 140 Review
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- I bought a new Lincoln Electric MIG Pak Welder 140, this is my review and testing of the unit. Tried out the flux core and the MIG, loving this welder so far even tho I'm not that great of a welder.
Here is a follow up video since I set up the machine for MIG welding incorrectly:
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I was going to recommend changing the polarity also. I'm pretty sure that is your problem.
I’m pretty sure that’s the problem
Only made 28 seconds.and your comment between Lincoln and Hobart pretty much told me what I needed to know about your knowledge of welders.
Great review Andrew. It is best to follow the chart in the inside of the door panel to ensure that you have the right polarity, wire speed and voltage output. As the previous commenter said, the problem with your MIG weld may be the polarity setting. Flux-Cored is DC negative and MIG DC positive.
I swear, most welding machines had built-in rock music...when you run the welder...music comes on.
Well if it played rap I'd thank it was broken
Ha yeah
I have to disagree with your comment. The Lincoln brand is a "high end" brand. It's definitely on par or a step above Hobart. The 140 might not be a high end welder but neither is a Hobart Handler 140.
Agree with this 100%. I have a Lincoln handy mig which is a step down from the Hobart 140 I use everyday at work. But I have to say I weld much better with the Lincoln. Don’t know why. But I like it more. Hobart is very nice quality and look great. No real complaints on either
John
I agree, Lincoln is in my opinion the top name in welding, both of mine are work horses, and the one i used at work, no telling how many tons of weld metal that thing has put down, never even a hiccup.
100% Lincoln all the way. And I'm not sure what he means home hobbyist. I'll take, in his words, "Bof" my Lincoln welders over any other welder
Yeah this dude definitely doesn’t know shit. Lincoln makes high end welders. Your particular model is their low end home use welder.
Lincoln makes some of the best machines out there. They make a 140 & 180 specifically for the big box stores in Canada like the Home Depot's & Canadian Tire stores that are good starter machines for home use. If you want a step up you can get the 140c & 180c which are sold at the welding/gas stores. The big difference is they have unlimited voltage position setting and industrial drive roll. The other machines only have 5 positions for the voltage and I think some plastic parts for the drive roll.
My 140 only has 4 voltage settings (A-D) and 1 - 10 wire speed not very specific lol
@@tarynshoalts the 180 from home depot has 5 voltage settings
I had a crappy mastercraft fluxcore welder for the longest time and was disappointed in the quality of welds I was able to produce, looked more like bubblegum that it did a weld and the spatter the mastercraft produced was insane. Ended up selling that welder and bought this kit when it went on sale and had it in the box for over a year and busted it out today to do some flux core welding and was amazed at the quality of welds this machine can produce using flux, looked almost identical to using gas and spatter is at a minimum almost non existent, now I'm looking for more things around the house that I can fuse together, definitely looking forward to more projects with this awesome welder
You need to switch the polarity when going from flux to mig if you haven't already. You should be fine on that thickness.
Oh crap thanks!! I read that in the manual and forgot to do it.
That's the number one thing people forget. I've made that mistake a few times when I first got my everlast welder.
Yup
I can weld 3/8 with this machine
How do you change the polarity
Agreed!! Just picked up the MIG Pro today, and I went with Mig welding from flux core, and forgot to switch polarity. What a difference the switch over made, sounded perfect, and the weld looked beautiful!!
Check your polarity when changing wire type.
He didn't show changing the polarity for solid wire,
when welding flux core or using gas, the sound of weld will tell you more about what you doing wrong than anything else. that damn music.
Keep 1 thing in mind push gas and drag slag. You want to keep the gas in front of your weld to help cool the weld and keep the slag in back of your weld to keep it out of your weld.
what if you're using flux core with gas? lol
Good videos for guys like me. I learned how to stick weld in high school ('67) but haven't welded much since. I used to be a good welder. I bought one of these about a month ago. Still learning but I have been building square tube shelving for storage. My welds aren't real pretty but they seem to be strong.
The Lincoln 140 is a little hoss! I love mine i bought it for using it portable and has worked very well, get it setup with straight co2 and you will get better penetration with mig, co2 makes a hotter arc, nice video and enjoy your new machine, keep practicing!
And btw, if you haven't found him already go watch Jody at welding tips and tricks, hes one of the best ive seen, thanks
as a professional welder for over 33 years Miller makes good machines and so do Lincoln I have used both and they work great for pipe welding they are generator type on the back of a welding rig
Heat is controlled by amps. Amps on mig come from wire speed. Voltage controls the bead appearance more so. You have some issues with polarity. Flux uses electrode negative (straight polarity) and gas shielded used electrode positive (reverse polarity). Hope you have got in more practice and glad you like that machine.
You've probably found this out by now:
DCEN (DC Electrode Negative) = Torch/gun connected to the - terminal for flux core welding. Ground clamp on +
DCEP (DC Electrode Positive) = Torch/gun connected to the + terminal for MIG welding. Ground clamp on -
I think it's necessary to note that those ABC settings and 123 #'s on the machine are wire speed and voltage and each are to be set differently based on the thickness of the metal mig welding/Flux cord welding.
I agree with the others. The manual states reversing polarity between flux core and shielded.
I got this same welder, for free, as part of a labor exchange with a friend. Initially the MIG welds looked just like yours, if not worse. It was set up completely wrong. So, double check the gas, the polarity, the feed wheel and only use quality wire. Mine now lay down some really nice weld for a small machine. I still use the big Millermatic for chassis work, but the lil Lincoln 140 is perfect for smaller jobs.
Still don't know what the polarity onmine is and I've been welding for 2 years
I just bought this to weld 16 gauge square tubing and it did a very damn good job. Money well spent, runs off my lincoln 305 generator too!
Nice welder, brand name, too. Take care of it and you will have a welder for lots of years. Congrats!
You didnt show switching polarity from flux to mig...
Hopefully you did this off camera.
If not, that could be the reason your getting unsuccessful welds with the mig setup!
Millers consumer brand is Hobart (same owner, many common parts). 140 amps is much more versatile than the smaller machines Many auto body shops flog those little Lincolns for years. The cheaper machines usually don't have internal contactors so the gun remains hot. Even if you get a larger welder later keeping the Lincoln is a wise choice for portability and convenience. I suggest visiting welding forums, especially Weldingweb and the Miller forums (they have info for all brands).
I repair welders and OA gear and have a variety of machines from different brands. Enjoy your Lincoln.
Welding gas can be bought at welding supplier, airgas or praxair.
I know this is old but your problem with welding mig is that you need to push the weld not pull. Only pull for flux core
Good video. I just bought this unit also. I have never welded before in my life. Practice, practice and more practice. But so far I'm liking the capabilities of this machine for home use.
Besides changing poolaarity, alway clean your metal with mig especially. A wire brush, or 36 grit on an angle grinder work great for this, or at least a hand wire brush. It needs to be clean and shiny for mig. God bless
I didn't see you swap the wire to reverse the polarity if you never did that then there is your problem I'm thinking.
I see what you mean about mig vs flux core. However, one could argue that when the flux compound contained within the wire reacts with the welding arc to form a gas that protects the weld pool, it could also be considered metal inert gas (MIG). The metal does become inert due to a gas barrier, the gas just gets there a different way.
These are $800 now (before TAX) and NO "Extra goodies". Wonder what caused the price hike? These are BETTER than ANY Hobart Ive used..
lincoln makes some damn good welders!!! at the shipyard i work all they run is lincoln and miller!! you can definetly see a difference in a $500 vs $2000+ lincoln welder!
change the polarity for MIG or change it back for fluxcor
One more question. Where in the GTA did you buy the gas and how much did you pay for it?
Your clamp lead should run through that white cable retainer... Having it like you do will put stress on the connector thats crimped on the end
the polarity has to be changed when using solid wire compared to fluxcore-s ... that was obviously your problem the way the solid wire piled up without penetrating and the discoloration.
the gas is for indoor use the wind will blow the shielding gas away flux core you can weld indoor outdoor mostly outdoor
#1) good video #2) I strongly recommend taking welding at a community college..
#3) keep.practicing #4) nice machine. #5) keep improving....
Where did you get it “on sale” and with the “bonus kit”. Thanks
it would be a better weld on mig if you reverse the polarity. read your instructions. flux core and mig use different polairity. i weld thick steel all the time with the same welder. great little welder.
How thick?
also mig welding is used in industrial welding. so yes it can be used to weld many thicknesses of material. It is used for oil rig machinery. So mig welding has many more uses than you are giving it credit for.
I started using the 140 instead of the dynasty 220 stick, honestly i like the 140 as the wire feed is more versatile
I was thinking about getting a flux core welder. Sometimes I need something welded and have to find someone to weld and drop it off pay 50 dollars for 6 inches of weld.
Get s the smaller one. 120v. I have one . Welded a 2 fences and lots of other stuff. Not a professional, just a diyer. Check my video of the fence.
Mine dropped on the ground face first 3 ft and didn't break I cannot imagine that being case for other brands but maybe I'm definitely never going to test that again
You need to switch polarity every time you switch between flux and mig.
Since you have the tiny bottle, Go with double shield welding; both flux core wire and the shielding gas.
Dual shield
Just learning on mine. Seems like I should continue with flux until I build better skills... Good video.
Great video. Wish I scored the set on sale you got! Looks like a great score.
Did you switch polarity when you went to Mig Andrew ?
Can you please reply with the gas bottle information, i tried listening multiple times but could not get it. Thanks
You never switch to electrode positive when you switched over to solid solid wire.
I have a 180 and am thinking about a 140 also. Just because I can use 120v
Not "heat".... "amps". Also cleaning is a must for all welding
Flux you drag the wire. Mig you push. Also different tips.
Pretty sure you didn't switch the polarity
**** Excellent choice, I have an older model which I bought about 20 years ago, I always use "Lincoln Wire" no cheap "Harbor freight" stuff !! :-) *****
Question I have is I'm a new beginner to be welder and I would like to make build my own side door gate out of metal for my house is nothing super thick maybe as thick as a quarter coin thick. Would this welder on this video do the job ? Or for small garage home projects. Thanks in advance if any body can school me on this.
You mention tri-mix, can you tell us what gases you are using.
Great video, Andrew. I'm new to welding.
I'm going to purchase the 140.
I’ve got the same machine. Planning to arc weld 22ga sheet steel for a car panel patch. Should I keep on A (lowest voltage) and the slowest wire feed speed to prevent blow Thru?
That 140 supposed to be a welder to 5/16 have you ever tried a quarter inch with it
Great video. I'm new to welding and learned a lot about the machine and wire welding in general. I have been looking at this one for a while and think I'll get it to replace my cheap one. Thanks again
Gas vs flux each run opposite polarity.
it is the defect of such a limited machine, if the conditions are not ideal, the machine have not enough inerty to overcome that and the arc is instable. if you want weld a big metal slug with fine wire as 0.024, you have just to preheat the part to about 500 deg f andwou'll be able to make a sound weld bead. When you have to weld thin material, a very nice feature is to have an infinite heat control, not steps as on this lincoln machine, I don't know for lincoln but this feature is an option on the miller equivalent machine
Short arc mig gonna build up like that if you drag the torch. Need a push angle not a pull angle
I’m thinking of buying it for just hobby’s I’m just tryna weld like small bbq grill and stuff nothing to serious for now
thanks, i am looking to buy this same unit and this video really helped solidify my decision.
so gas or flux, you’re shielding the arc
Did you switch polarity from Flux core to solid with gas? Btw, drag the Flux core and push the solid wire.
Change the ground. Shows on the chart inside the panel.
I think your wires inside the welder going to the wing nuts are set up wrong for fluxcore
Hi Andrew, do you plug it in any wall outlet for this machine? Will it trip the break at max power? Or do you build a separate 20 amp breaker and outlet for the welder? Thanks man
What is the polarity?i just bought this machine and never welded a single thing in my life. I do want to learn though thx
POLARITY is the key
Will this welder work for collision repair (spot welding) unibody on cars in my garage? I have several110 outlets and only one 20 amp 220 the style of recepticale that looks like its winking at you. Let me know what you guys think
YOU DONT HAVE THE GAS ON THERE IS NO NEED TO CLEAN IF THE GAS IS SET RIGHT AND YOU HAD THE WIRE SPEED WAY TO SLOW
what's the thickest you can weld with this welder?
U said its not high end like a hobalt...lincoln is on the level with Miller in most people opinion
It is not a stick welder you have to weld forward not backward thats why your weld doesnt look straigth and try to use 2 separatly pieces not a angle for weld cuz need penetrate betwin the metal, thats why looks to many wired
MIG welds dont need wire brush because there's no slack. Only flat ait down with a grinder
I was hoping to see the polarity changed
Great Vid, Sub added..
Looking at this machine as my 1st "MIG" . What min to max size matetial can this unit handle?
Cheers 🇨🇦👍
I have NEVER welded Flux core without gas. I was taught at a shipyard and wasn't taught the ins and outs so this confuses me so much. We were only taught how to weld, not information on wires and different setups. flux core and mig REQUIRED gas or else you literally couldn't weld. you'd get pinholes and burn throughs. The wire for flux core DID have a flux core aswell so it baffles me how you're able to do it without gas. Im guessing the flux in the middle is just different...
Change the polarity
I was wondering why would drag the weld on a mig w gas.....
Can you weld 17-7 stainless with this?
Weren't suppose to switch the polarity for MIG.
When you said 500 bucks...all I then heard was Charlie Browns teacher!!
Andrew where did you get your cart?
I'm sure if you read the manual it will tell you to clean the metal before welding it.
Can I plug this welder in a 15amp receptacle? Than you for the video
Always use gas. Don’t eff around.
If there a little hole in the spool, stick something in the hole and turn it, it’s faster.
When you feed wire, turn the wire feed knob to max and turn off your gas, option two is hit the feed button if your machine has it.
Holy Jesus that hard wire looks like hammered dog turd. One, polarity check, two, turn up the voltage until it burns in flat.
Does the 140C also change to TIG with a hose change? And does it do arc as well?
does the gas flow only when you pull the trigger or does it flow the whole time
Firstruss Lastdale only when you pull the trigger
Where did you get your welding cart? Nice setup thinkin of buying the same welder!
Francis Doucet looks like a Harbor Freight cart. I have the same one. Nice cart for the Lincoln 140
How many watts would a generator have to be to run that off a generator?
Great video, thanks for sharing!
Appreciate you Sir
Great video! Very informative
what was the gas you bought?