What's My Line? - Kirk Douglas; Peter Lind Hayes [panel] (Dec 20, 1953)
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2013
- MYSTERY GUEST: Kirk Douglas
PANEL: Dorothy Kilgallen, Peter Lind Hayes, Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf
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R.I.P. Kirk Douglas. He lived a long great life of 103 years. Who knew at the time of this airing that he'd live well into the 21st century.
He lived a perverted existence of innuendo and impropriety at the expense of his female victims (Jean Spaulding and Natalie Woods) but he suffered a debilitating stroke survived a horrific copter crash to reflect on the grotesquely daemonic things he did to others.
@@andrewforte3852 That vitriol was edited? Wow.
@@andrewforte3852 oh please, you have no idea if the stories of these women have any validity to them!!! You weren’t there!
@@dianawardrip5171 You'd give Harvey Weinstein a pass on the same basis ?
I doubt Natalie Wood would have agreed
I rarely have seen a T.V. show where the participants enjoy so much each other. It's clearly genuine and infectious fun and laughter. Times have certainly changed, haven't they...
absolutely
I was just thinking how difficult it would be to try to do the mystery guest segment nowadays....people have so many choices about what television programs they watch and what music they listen to, that there are very few celebrities who would be well known to all on the panel as well as the audience. Back in the “Big 3 Network” days, everyone in the country had mostly the same cultural references. But I do think there would be an audience for a witty, intelligent, vanilla show like this still. This show was mostly done before I was born, but I got hooked on it when they had it late nights on GSN.
There was a lot going on behind the scenes.
Depends on what you watch. This honestly reminds me a bit of the D&D twitch show Critical Role in some ways.
A well spoken game leader trying to not give the players too much information but still enough to go on, shenanigans by the players now and then and all of them greatly enjoying each other's company.
Even has occasional guests.
In memory of dear Kirk Douglas, who passed away this week in 103 maybe the last remnants of those days. God bless him
What a great actor... his family should be proud of him
@z Preposterous.
Betty White is still with us.
@@maryblushes71895 not anymore unfortunately, RIP
Dear?
We need to bring shows back like this with this style of panelists
Not happening. An era gone by and much less individual occupations exist.
Finding candidates for the panel would be a challenge. Even the WML shows taped in the 60's don't compare to these older versions. There existed refined class, mutual respect, intellectual ability, and morality which sadly diminished as my hippie generation came in to being.
@@belindaalbright8798 You hit the nail on the head. Refined class such as this is sadly extremely rare now.
Panelists of this magnitude and style do not exist anymore....especially now in our day and time.
yes im afraid those days are long over
Rest In Peace, Kirk Douglas (December 9, 1916 - February 5, 2020)
@@andrewforte3852 You know what you can do with that statement.
@@tss77 I will stand resolutely by it for posterity sake to commemorate two starry eyed young women in the prime of life who just wanted to entertain people to make them happy.
P.S. Robert Wagner is also a murdering, two-faced, backstabbing monster who covered up his wife Natalie Wood untimely demise got away scott free.
tss77 Why, it’s true.
I just started watching this (in order) and I think this episode is the first one where somebody as a celebrity was still alive this year (2020). I know once I get to the sixties it will be different. I still haven't gotten to a person who is still alive yet.
He was 104??! 😮
I love watching Arlene's facial expressions
you know john daly had to be having a lot of fun hosting this show
It appears John was comfortable touching people. Bet he hugged his kids. I'd like to think so, anyway.
@@alansorensen5903 - It's true he did touch people but there was a sense of innocence in his touching. He touched men and women both without any taint of sexuality or lewdness.
One of the last great Hollywood actors finally went to eternal rest. RIP Kirk Douglas
And he fought back hard after that stroke
@@m.e.d.7997 so did Natalie Wood.
@@cathykinn4516 Who was raped by this "great" man
Kirk was my parents favorite customer at their store in Palm Springs Ca. He always paid his liquor bills on the first of the month by personal check. As a result my dad charged him a reduced price on Dom Perignon champagne which he bought by the case. Every bit a kind gentleman he was.
I'm not sure that Natalie Wood thought he was a 'kind' gentleman.
I am sure there were customers out there that were not as responsible as Kirk paying the bill
Was he an alcoholic. Likely
@@Fush1234 Extremely unlikely he was an alchoholic and lived to be 103 years old, duh!!!
@@dianawardrip5171 - he died at 88.. this was a double. He was an alcoholic …
As for the mystery guest, no one in the audience knew who it would be in advance. Gil Fates describes in his book the extraordinary lengths they went to in order to conceal the identity of the mystery guest (although not always successfully). The delighted, surprised applause from the audience that you usually hear when the mystery guest signs in-- that's completely genuine!
That makes sense, since John Daly (in the finale) explained the backup plan they had for mystery guests (John being the Mystery Guest) was based on if the guest should arrive, and how one time, the guest made it at the very last minute.
BTF the loudest ovation I ever heard for a mystery guest was Robert Mitchum. You would have thought one of The Beatles showed up.
Extraordinary lengths? Half of them had dinner with Bennett the night before
Joe Ambrose You mean Bennett having dinner with the audience as WELL as the celebrities? If so, I like it...that's a genuinely funny gag! :)
@@joeambrose3260 Bennett was a man of some renown in his field internationally. He had lived some decades already at this point and was married to a close relative of Ginger Rogers. It was true that many of the guests lived and/or worked in NYC regularly and others visited and stayed for the duration of their appearances on Broadway or at Basin Street East or like venues and would run into him at parties or at their performances or they may even have wanted to write a book about their experiences, so sought a show biz savvy publisher. He had done wonders for publishing. My friend who'd worked for him just died recently and had said he was thoughtful of others as well as quite smart. He and his wife entertained because they were social people and dinner parties were a form of repaying both personal and professional kindnesses and at times seeking out new possibilities for working together with someone with whom one could chat less formally at such an occasion. And they would not run and hide from you if they were a guest in your home. So, it just happened that when he had his Sunday evening (and at times Saturday evening) dinner parties some of the folks were perhaps already signed on to do a MG stint on WML because they were in town working or promoting something or doing a big charity benefit that also landed them at his dinner table. It was not so much coincidence as inevitability. His wife lied to him when she was MG. Ginger Rogers regularly lied to him when she was staying with her cousin while in town and was also to be MG. Others played dumb. He quite honorably removed himself from participating the couple of times someone actually told him who was on, which was not the MG himself.
@@philippapay4352 Thanks for the bedtime story, worked great
Such a wonderful, vivacious and classy presence in this era of television. I'm thoroughly enjoying watching the movie icons and legends of our past in their "hey day". Wonderful
Peter Lind Hayes did really well for someone who had never played the game--even solved the mystery guest. Kirk Douglas looked just like his son Michael 30 years later.
Young Kirk had more swagger than Young Michael.
Kirk had just turned 37 here, a mere 66 yrs left. R I P
To: Joe Ambrose, Mr. Douglas was still on the ascent on his way toward a magnificent career. RIP, Kirk.
Unbelievable!
From abject poverty to a magical Hollywood career and to think he lived nearly 70 years after this episode. A great life lived to the full surrounded by a loving family.
Very well put.
Fool.
Douglas was still in the early stages of his extraordinary career. He'd starred in a half-dozen or so movies, and was a recognized star, but much of his best work lay in the future. His autobiography, "Ragman's Son," is well worth reading. He grew up in conditions of poverty that are almost unbelievable these days.
Including 1964's, 7 Days in May, my fav movie
Nancy Pine Well said.
Please post proof pronto Pine
And apparently liked teenagers.
Horns versus antlers: we learn something every day! Antlers are shed each year but horns are for life, so the reindeer raiser was right to give a 'no' to Dorothy's question 'Do they have horns?' as he explained afterwards. This show certainly packed a lot into 25 minutes - I feel that today it would be padded and stretched out to 45 and lose its fun.
I would say about learning something new every day it's probably the best thing about getting older
I love the reindeer guy with his teaching of the horns vs. antlers.
It was only one week ago that I was watching this episode of What's My Line? and I’m returning to watch it again in wake of his death. May you rest in piece Mr. Douglas.
Love love love this show. Please please please bring this concept back again. It’s a great programme to watch with the family.
I’m afraid the producers would sex it up to win viewers of today. It wouldn’t be the same. That innocence of all ages then is gone.
Ah, another person who's read the Gil Fates book. I got a used copy last year and loved it, so well written and packed with information, if a little on the overly diplomatic side. Well worth reading for anyone who loves the show. It's obvious from various comments you're a huge fan of this show-- you know it much better than I do. I used to watch it in reruns, but didn't have this large collection of episodes until a couple of years ago, which really spurred my interest.
I just looked at amazon.com and found a paperback of the book for $118. Think I'll try the library
I'm looking at Amazon now and they have used library editions for sale at nearly 1500$ with a soft cover going for 140$ and up. Hope my local library hasn't sold their copy.
@@KristopherBeloutrageous 😮price
Rest in peace everyone who appeared on the show
Incl Natalie Wood but excl the freak who Raped her.
Wish I could wish Merry Christmas to this panel!!!
Mr. Butters was about 25 years ahead of the fashion trends
YAYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!! I'll be 88 on my NEXT Birthday (The same date as his!!!) 😍🇺🇸
John Peel
Congratulations!
Happy Birthday!
👍
Happy Birthday! Terri Johnson
First time I've seen someone over 80 use an emoji
Please post proof pronto, pics preferred
This was hilarious. I love Kirk Douglas. He seemed like a rough around the edges, but a teddy bear on the inside. I wish that there were more shows like this. 😄
I read he brutally raped Natalie wood
Sean Connery had the same disguise voice. Kirk was having a blast.
I didn't like Kirk in relation what he did to young Natalie Wood
The way Kirk Douglas disguises his voice is hilarious. XD
They say that Father from kids next door's voice is modeled on Douglass. I don't really see much similarity
tripp cory Oh really? I'll have to go look that voice up. LOL
You mean like with the first appearance of Debbie Reynolds? LOL
Did everyone notice how John gave away that it was a man early on? When he said “he” when answering a question from Dorothy? Didn’t see that too much in the series
When I was 12, I was traveling with my parents by car through Mexico when we went all the way to Oaxaca and were headed towards El Paso on the way back when we stopped for the one night in Durango. We stopped at a motel on the edge of town that only had one vacancy... the rest of the rooms were taken up by the production team and cast of a western movie starring no less than John Wayne and Kirk Douglas that was being filmed outside of town (The War Wagon)... I was starstruck as we shared the motel's restaurant with the cast, Mr Wayne at the next table and Mr Douglas across the aisle! I remember being more interested in Mr Douglas and kept watching him. He was at a table just with one young actor (seemed like he was giving him some good advice) while Mr Wayne liked to be at a crowded table. I felt like saying "may I have your autograph?" was dumb and just decided to keep the memory inside, where it stays now, 57 years later. Of course we made a point of going to see it when came out the next year (1967)!
I L🧡VE THESE SHOWS!
103? not bad Kirk. Thanks for introducing us to Stanley Kubrick and making my childhood so much fun with the movies that I would go and see with my buddies on Market St. here in San Francisco.
"Do you always get the girl"?
Kirk Douglas, in falsetto: "No. I always die before that."
I HOLLERED!!!! So TRUE!!!! 😂😂😭😭
🤣Yes!!!👍
To be fair he usually gets the girl earlier in the movie....then he dies before he can get her again! :)
He took the girl.
As he did in 1947 film Out of the Past, w. Robert Mitchum and Jane Greer. Jane Greer killed him in the movie.
Interestingly UA-cam saw fit to recommend this to me on 12/20/2023 exactly 70 years after first airing.
Kirk Douglas lived a very long time. As a child I remember seeing him in Jules Verne's "20000 Leagues Under the Sea", in which he played harpooner Ned Land, with James Mason playing captain Nemo. He also played Spartacus, and many other famous roles.
John rolling his eyes at 12:39 after Peter asked if the product entailed any physical activity. Too funny! Terri Johnson
I grew up watching this show and loved it and to see it again after all these years is so special but this episode was aired just a few a few months after I was born.
I had just watched 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and I loved Kirk Douglass, so I looked him up and I was astounded at his age! I mentioned it to my father at how amazing that is, and then he passes away, no joke, the next day! 😢 R.I.P Kirk Douglass
The panel always has 1 great hint: the Applause but also usually the star comes the NY to promote something
I will always honor Kirk's memory for taking the role of Spartacus and helping break the Blacklist
Kirk was a wannabe communist. Great actor with dumb dumb politics.
And sex offender list?
@@DrRish-wx3wf Nonsense.
@@DrRish-wx3wfnot true. He was somewhat liberal but nothing close to being a communist.
Michael Douglas had nothing over his father when it comes to looks. Kirk Douglas was SO handsome!
- Kirk Douglaa had a certain strength in his looks that Michael did not have. They were very different people.
Uuuhm he's his double !
Ehhhhhh.... 🤷🏻♂️
@@shirleyrombough8173 Indeed! Kirk raped Natalie Wood over & over when she was 15 years old. Kirk also physically beat her and slapped her around as she tried to resist his advances.
@@richardmilliken8705 I have it on reliable authority that you are vitriolicly libeling a fine man. Perhaps you should seek help.
His son Michael Douglas was 9 years old at this point.
I was 2 years 2 days old. But, now I love this show. Can't get enough. Obsessed with it. Groucho was very funny. Don't miss that one. He did two shows as a panelist. Played havoc the first time.
Michael Douglas was surely no equal to his father.
@@maggiesfarm7970 Well. Both are considered tops among their peers. Different times, but each could do it all: heroic, macho, sensitive, comedic, tragic, sinister, artistic. And both gentlemen.
@@alansorensen5903 please post proof pronto of countless curious claims
I'm going by memory, having read producer Gil Fates's book on WML well over a year ago. . . I do remember that the really early episodes would often end with a request to be contacted by people with an interesting occupation. I think by the time the show had been on the air for a couple of years, this wasn't really necessary anymore-- they got more than enough unsolicited submissions/suggestions to keep them going.
Where can I get that book for less than a week's salary?
First contestant...
He's wearing a VERY early "leisure" suit (from the 50's !), and he has an open collar over the jacket.
My dad wore those all through the '70s !
He was such a good actor.
And a Solid American.
Rest easy Sir!
Solid?
I love how Kirk Douglas walked on the set..... like he owned it!!
Just like he treated Women, like he owned them BUT HE DID NOT.
What do you know ? Bennett Cerf actually stood & followed Kirk Douglas off the set with his gaze. Usually he stands, shakes hand, then sits back down, & it's business as usual.
RIP to a great star...Kirk Douglas!
Of the cup of life he enjoyed a full measure.
"10 flips and the panel's a flop!" Funny! 4:00
Holy F! Cerf, that free guess on the mistletoe contestant!
That was a slur even at that time.
Right? WHAT? You have to remember he was born in the 1800s, but sheesh.
So many sweet things about Ol Kirk. Ask Natalie Wood what she thought of him?
the best show of all time
"Lonely are the Brave" is my favorite Kirk Douglas film with perhaps the saddest final scene in motion picture history.
I couldn't finish watching it when I saw what was happening. Broke my heart.
I went to go hunt this episode down after finishing "Young Man with a Horn" - he was just wonderful in that even if they did give it a 'hollywood ending.' I know nothing of the film that you've mentioned....that may be next.
I watched this film a short time ago. Wonderful. The final scenes were so traumatic-it broke my heart, too.
It was Kirk's favorite film of the films he did
Great show please bring this show back asp god bless
Excellent
Kirk Douglas...now age 101 and still going strong.
I wouldn't say too strong, at least in his most recent appearance. (He was in a wheelchair). But at least still living.
@@edwardgold1010 and strong enough to keep on living for now WOW amazing
Yes INDEED wow
Now 102 years completed, and living into his 103rd year
Still going strong even following a severe stroke 23 years ago. One tough Hombre.
I hate the way the final guest is hustled off so quickly after the appearance of the mystery guest. The final contestant is always a letdown, mainly because there is so little time left for a proper game.
I would choose tv shows /movies from this era or before then from what we have now. The respect of others, kind words, no cussing, I’ve seen no racial divides, no nudity, no sexuality to get ratings. it’s just a wonderful time of laughing and a love for each other and respect.
Kirk Douglas was a good looking man. He lived I believe until 103 and had his bar mitzvah when he was in his 80s instead of the usual 13.
😂 his Bar at 80! And he still wasn't a man!
Who would've thought Kirk would outlive the rest of them..
The good die young.
@@cathykinn4516Kirk died at the age of 103😊
and the public
It’s bizarre that they ever had the fourth one, which they always had to rush if they had time at all. Why didn’t Daly just interview the mystery guest for a few minutes?
WML NOT A TALK SHOW 😊
Happy 100th birthday Kirk Douglas
Fortunately, his appearance here in December 1953 is still in the WML collection.
In October 1960, he appeared as himself as a self-employed contestant "Manufacturers Electric Blankets for Horses." Gil Fates wanted to use that clip in "What's My Line? at 25." Kirk hated the episode and refused to authorize its use again. Game 2: Senators Thruston B. Morton of Kentucky and Henry M. Jackson of Washington (as Mystery Guest Duo) "Chairmen of Republican and Democratic National Committees" Game 3: mystery guest Mickey Rooney. This blindingly all-star episode with guest panelist Steve Allen has somehow gotten lost.
101 at my viewing here in 2018.
Made it to 103. 02/05/2020
This Peter Lind in the panel omg 🥱
Kirk Douglas still is today full of surprises.... I think only Vera Lynn is doing better in that field, but Henry Kissinger also might become a competitor in the near future...
“He makes concave balloons for pot bellied bubble dancers.” Whaattt? 😂
I was almost one year old at the time of this showing.
Please post proof pronto
@@joeambrose3260 Post proof of what?
@@randallerickson175 Claim to fame ( copy of birth cert )
Me too...
Wow, Charles Winzelberg’s handwriting!
Guys if you find audio on one channel annoying especially if you use headphones just go in ease of access and enable mono in audio section.
Kirk Douglas, fantastic.
I was born 20 years later..
I'd never seen Kirk Douglas in any movie til a few years ago I discovered 1947's Out of the Past also starring Robt. Mitchum and Jane Greer. I was shocked at what a great actor Kirk was. I've watched the film many times now in particular to see scenes w. Kirk. Of course, I also love watching Robt. Mitchum in the scene where he catches Jane Greer in Rhonda Fleming's apt.
I saw real reindeer a very long time ago. I think that it was in the 1970s. They're very interesting animals. They live in a bitterly cold region. I used to think that they didn't really exist. Of course, they don't fly.
It's 2020, Kirk Douglas recently turned 103, true story.
Rest in peace Kirk!
Thanks for the info!
An episode that is Christmas-centric.
No!
He was so gorgeous!!
John Daly was born in the same town as me in Johannesburg South Africa
My favorite movie was his favorite movie, in which he starred. It is "Lonely Are the Brave"
Good to see someone from the old days still around....Maurice H
May God bless you and may you rest in peace. You just passed away some hours ago at the age of 103. Today is February the 6th 2020.
@Alejandro Garcia.
Thank you for including the current date.
I don't know how many times the current date is left out and it looses context.
@@williamlynnroden you're welcome 😉
Looses? Don't you mean looooooses?
Kirk Douglas was one of the very very best! maybe the best!
At what?
@@cathykinn4516 non-invasive atmospheric snorkeling and shoe repair
Also, Dorothy, a "horn" is one piece and tapers to a sharp point, whereas antlers are branched and each one terminates in many points, which are usually fairly blunt. Reindeer, other kinds of deer, elk and moose have antlers, not horns. Also, horns are hollow and can be made into musical instruments (such as the shofar made from a ram's horn), or fashioned into a container or vessel, such as a drinking horn or a powder horn.
Happy birthday to Kirk Douglas on today, his 98th birthday. He's likely the only one on this show who is still with us.
Steven Chappell Thanks for the heads up!
Steven Chappell Also Zsa Zsa Gabor
Steven Chappell now he is 100
And poor Zsa Zsa is not.
Betty White, Julie Andrews, and Carol Burnett are all still living.
Dorothy couldn't get the right description out about Raindeer's 'antlers '. First she mentioned horns and then what made me laugh, was calling them BRANCHES. She had the right answer but stumbled a bit. There were a lot of skips in the film, but only one with Kirk Douglas. I just finished an excellent film with him and Kim Novak; STRANGERS WHEN WE MEET. (Married folks having an affair) A well done film.
Kirk Douglas now 102!
Ha! His voice sounded like Grandpa Moses. Well right now he is 101 years old and still alive.
Although it could never be as good as the original.....I do wonder what a show similar to this could be. 🤔😊
It could never happen today...
That kind of class and refinement is long gone....and what we have today is crass and vulgar...
Remember Family Feud...with Richard Dawson..?
Years ago that show was great, no sex, no cussing, no nasty comments...just good, clean fun.
Today, that version of the show is absolutely disgusting...nasty questions to get nasty responses..
...and the contestants respond using words you would never hear on the vintage WML.
Steve Harvey seems to encourage that gross behavior....laughing all the way to the bank. !!!
Ed Butters certainly had a different look from the other participants.
All he needed to complete his "groovy guy" look was a gold chain necklace.
@@michellefricke7942average person couldn't afford gold chains 😢
I wonder if a panelist ever guessed it right on his/her freebie at the beginning. I know they dropped the free guess in later seasons.
Yes I don't remember how many but there were at least two and one was by Arlene. But the free guesses sometimes got too wild like one of Bennett's in this episode so that and the low amount of correct guesses killed that portion.
@@toddmccreary45799 total correct quesses😊
Arlene's hair continues to gradually lighten...
I met Kirk Douglas and Michael Douglas at their home in Palm Springs. 1990's
Philip, please post proof pronto, pics preferred
@@joeambrose3260ignore 3260 😮
Love it. Too bad about the video clipping errors.
Some people always find something to bellyache about
@@joeambrose3260 You just bellyached over an observation.
omg...this was aired on the day i was born!!!
Wow! You're old, lol! Not really.
Please post proof pronto, pics preferred
@@donaldmanthei1224 : yeah...i like you too, Donald. Not really.
Wish i lived back then, such nice and friendly people.
I did, being born in 1951, and they really were this polite as a normal matter of course. I have heard some say it was simply their class being from the richer class, but that is simply not true. Bad manners, cursing in public in front of ladies or children was simply very rare. Decent men would not tolerate it! My great grandfather pistol whipped a man who did not get up and offer his seat on the trolly to a lady, then he pitched him off the trolly.
Manners were good as there were consequences to bad manners. ;-)
Happy 103rd birthday dec 9, 2019 Mr.Douglas..wow still going strong..he is the only one alive out of all them on the show
Wow! I have been there! Long time ago.
Please post proof pronto
I always find it dismaying when people accuse Dorothy of "Hogging" screen time. Frankly she can't even hold a candle to Mr. Daly, whom I love but still. As well as Bennett Cerf who I like but is my least favorite of the classic panelists. She took the game more seriously then the others and liked to be sure before she blurted out something and got a no. As the others all had done from time to time. Now I know that reindeer have antlers, but I severely doubt the number of commenters "claiming" they knew that Antlers fall out seasonally, where as Horns are permanent.
Is it me, or did Dorothy figure it out first, more often than the other panelists?
@@naomigoldberg6544Dorothy was a investigative reporter for years.😊
Antlers are not horns !!
All of you rest in peace....It was a classy world then
It was a Very Hyocritical one.
Heads up, Gary: There are a lot of dropouts in this video, which is a shame because it's a particularly good one! Lots of fun! Didn't keep me from watching it, though! :) I enjoyed it despite the dropouts. One more thing: I looked up Gil Fates' book on Amazon-they want almost ninety bucks for a used copy!! Ouch!! Do you or anyone else here now where I might be able to find a copy for a lot cheaper? I live in Houston, if that helps. Any help would be greatly appreciated! :)
Four years after your comment, the pricing for the Fates book has not improved. I check Amazon, thriftbooks, and abebooks from time to time and haven't found anything less than $90. Good luck with your search.
Did Cerf say what I think he said at 11:19? Well... that certainly dates this episode
Yes. Wowza.
Yup