Spider-man: No Way Home (2021) - Spoiler Review
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I get what you’re saying with Tobey being the one to stop Tom instead of Andrew, but I have a counterpoint:
Much like how Andrew was able to rectify his biggest failure as Spider-Man (the death of Gwen) by saving MJ, I thought it was appropriate for Tobey to be the one to stop Tom because he gets to rectify one of his biggest failures-not saving Norman from the glider, which ultimately led to his losing his best friend as well. This was something I picked up on upon rewatch and it played a lot better because of it-Tobey literally stopped the glider from killing Norman this time.
Yep. In the Raimi trilogy Norman's actions as The Green Goblin and his eventual death and Peter honouring Norman's wish not to tell Harry because he didn't want his son to know the monster he'd become leads to Harry thinking Spider-Man murdered Norman, becoming obsessed with revenge, hiring Doc Ock to bring him Spider-Man so he can kill him, finding out Peter's Spider-Man and eventually becoming the 2nd Green Goblin to get revenge but he eventually finds out his dad killed himself trying to kill Peter and dies saving Peter and Mary Jane from Sandman and Venom. Tobey Peter was probably thinking "I know how you feel kid. He attacked and nearly killed my Aunt May too but he's insane and can't help himself when the Goblin takes over so if we cure him of the Human Performance Enhancers he'll be sane again and not a threat."
Totally agree I wouldn't be able to understand why they would give that moment to Andrew & not Tobey
I agree, this makes sense. It was upsetting that Andrew was crying when he saved MJ remembering the time where he couldn’t unfortunately save Gwen.
Plus Tobey talked about killing Uncle Ben’s “killer”
Definitely right. A missed opportunity though was to have Tobey and Norman have a small exchange of dialogue after he got the cure. They were both right in the same spot. Felt odd to not have that.
This movie was definitely made for the fans. This gave Andrew's Spider-Man redemption and seeing Tobey back was like seeing an old friend again
I also think this movie gave Jamie Fox redemption.
@@outlawrip-offartist4161 I agree because that amazing Spider-Man Jamie foxx was not cool
Andrew Garfield blew me away with his performance, when he saved MJ and you could see him thinking about Gwen Stacey powerful performance from Garfield!
@@PortlandSucksss The way Tobeys Peter spoke to Tom's Peter with just his eyes and facial expression was amazing
@@DvDO7 you mean when Peter was gonna stab Goblin with hia glider?
I thought when Andrew saved MJ that it was great. Andrew had tears in his eyes and after he asked MJ was ok, MJ could see the emotion in his face and she asked him if he was ok. I thought it was great
Exactly I’m surprised Cody didn’t catch that. A lot of people in my theater say Andrew crying and his guilt was gone
@@Trejohnsmith i was a little surprised by his take on that scene
@@Trejohnsmith Me too as i elaborated in my own comment, I think it was perfect and my favourite scene in the whole movie.
@@repairshop22 been twice, teared up twice. Goddamnit
Yeah, I think actually misread that scene, it was emotional as hell, Andrew look sad and proud at the same time, overran with emotion, dude couldn't even speak.
Did you not notice the extra moment they took for Andrew and MJ when he catches her? He's all crying and asks if she's okay and then she asks if he's okay & clearly it's a big emotional moment for him. So they totally took some time to acknowledge the moment. Garfield stole it for me. His trauma and everything he's been through. Brilliant.
Right I was thinking the same thing lol.
Someone did a fan trailer showing Andrew's peter saving MJ where he looks at MJ falling and we see that image of Gwen falling to her death and it really takes you back to that sad moment at the end of TAMS2, that should of been kept in the movie but I still loved what they did in the film and Andrew's reaction to saving MJ was powerful!
That’s not what I thought lol. 👩❤️💋👨
Really enjoyed your review. I do disagree with you on Andrew’s Peter catch MJ. The acting from him after catching her was enough to suggest to the audience that he’s happy he didn’t let the same mistake happen twice yet he knows that nothing he does will bring her back. Plus, it further helps reinforce his oath not to let Tom’s Peter turn into what he turned into. Andrew’s strongest scenes in my opinion dealt with his grief over Gwen’s death and how it’s shaped him since it happened.
I agree with you, the way he’s tearing up and says “good” for me makes it work
yeah I think the scene was enough. I think if it would've been longer, then peope would complain like show don't tell, it doesn't need to be dragged out and so on.
when Andrew caught MJ, he actually took a moment and you could see he was tearing up because he knew he redeemed himself and had prevented Tom's Peter from his own fate, i'm glad i caught that moment, it actually made me tear up and i never was attached to Andrew's spider man but i just loved that performance and just found it weird that you missed that lol
Whole theater clapped and cheered for Garfield and Toby respectively. Never seen that in real life before.
Not gonna lie seeing Tobey and Otto talk after so many years made me shed a tear. Btw Cody the part where Tobey grabs the glider they were trying to reference him doing that in the first film when goblin tries to stab him and he stops it.
I don't think Peter was keeping the box away from Strange, I think it was actually the spider sense doing it.
The issue wasn’t really the fact that his identity was revealed, it was more so that he was being accused of attacking the London bridge with the drones and killing Mysterio
I'm aware of that but that's not the thing the movie is focusing on. The charges are dropped immediately so it's inconsequential. His identity being revealed is what's supposed to be the game changing event.
@@CodyLeachYT true but I think the main issue was his friends not being able to get into college because of the accusations even if he wasn’t going to be charged, which I think the movie did a good job showing although it definitely doesn’t sound as urgent of an issue as it could’ve been for sure
@@CodyLeachYT not the charges of the court of public opinion they weren’t dropped- Matt Murdock.
@@CodyLeachYT I agree that Charlie Cox’s Matt Murdock doesn’t fit with this universe but it was established right fr the start of the Daredevil TV series that it does take place in the MCU. There was bits of dialogue that refer to Thor’s hammer and the Hulk as well as constant references to the “incident” (the 2012 Avengers movie’s alien invasion of NYC). It’s crazy that Howard the Duck exists in the same universe where Punisher gouged out Rawlins eyes.
I took it as Andrews Spider-Man was in a very dark place. Like he even explains he doesn’t hold his punches anymore. Possible implying he killed a few people. He’s not doing to good.
It might also be a nod at the fact that spiderman is only allowed to kick his enemies in some of the movies and shows because of PG ratings and punching not being allowed. Maybe the fact he "Doesn't pull his punches" is a nod to those rating limitations too, while telling us he became a darker and more violent spiderman like you said :)
@@SirSoloSoul That's the biggest stretch for a connection I've ever seen 😂
@@MagikarpMaestro Maybe, but it's the first thing I thought of when he said it xD I guess it might depend on how much you watch/read spiderman though.
@@SirSoloSoul did not know that! ill have to keep a eye out for that detai lwhen rewatching. thnaks for info!
Same. If he is acting different it is probably because his actions are what caused Gwenn to die. First. Broke his promise to her dad
2nd when she was leaving for Oxford almost safe and sound he wrote "I love you" in a huge spider web. That caused her to delay leaving. When Eldctro started messing with the grid there was no stopping her from trying to help stop him. Then he couldn't save her from falling to her death in time. Even if he caught her she probably still would have broke in half and died. It make sense he is a little different but He said it was the quips. He quipped plenty in TASM and in TASM 2 he quipped even more. Andrew Garfields Spider-Man humor and quips were NOT off putting to me and seemed normal. So idk why he said the quipps and jokes felt odd for AG
To answer your comment about the mid credit scene. Venom has a hive mind. He explained it in the post for let there be Carnage. So he would have memories of Toby's exposure to being taken by the symbiote
Makes sense. A bit lazy and unclear but at least it’s somewhat explained.
@@MrBates-le1ql But Electro was transported too and he never knew Andrew's Peter Parker was Spider-Man. In the movie he even says that he thought he would be black solidifying that he never saw his face.
@@DvDO7 I’m gonna go with my own made up explanation that harry told him his name off screen. Meaning he didn’t see his face but knew who he was lol
@@bradlyfray1010 lol let's go with that. Even though Harry didn't know Peter was Spider-Man until after electro was gone lmao
@@bradlyfray1010 exactly what I thought
I saw it day one, I loved it, and I really enjoyed your review. But I gotta say two things 1. I don't think Andrews peter felt off when he appeared, and I thinks it's because he's not being Peter at the moment, he's being the quippy spiderman, so It didn't feel off to me 2. At the end, Tobey was not only stopping Tom to save him from vengeance, but also saving Norman from dying, because he failed the first time and he will save Norman this time. (Plus I think it was to give Tobey a moment, after Andrew had gotten his "saving Gwen" moment, with both of them rectifying there biggest failures)
Nail on the head with both points
Honestly liked Andrew way more in this than his movies. Whole movie was incredible though. The Goblin cure Tobey even said he's been thinking about it for a long time. And considering how much older he is I believe it's haunted him for years. So I actually liked that point.
And I dunno about you but the moment Andrew realized mj was ok, the look on his face broke me.
If I’m being honest that was my favourite scene in the movie.
It was upsetting to see Andrew get upset and cry, Gwen’s death took a huge toll on him.
I'm late but I recently found this guy. I have almost the same taste as him. I've maybe disagree on like 4 percent of his reviews. Yes the movie explains that Toby SM has been thinking about how to make the cure for forever. Andrew Garfields SM has Already Cured the Lizard once. Al three SM are smart af anyways so I disagree about him just typing in the cure but I was also tired of Tony's Tech by now. That is why I loved the ending. He should be ow his own the next movie.
Tasm was in my top 3 Faborite SM movies. I also loves Tasm 2. Best Live Action suit. Both tasm have the best Swinging scenes and Views The Slo Mo Spider Sense in Tasm 2 is amazing looking. The chemistry and Acting from AG and ES are the best in any SM movie. AG has been my favorite since Tasm 1. The most talented actor. The best spiderman and his PP is great as well. The people considered nerds have changed Drastically since his orginal story in the comics. Also he was a jerk sometimes in one of the comic stories maybe Ultmate idr. So he was still an outcast/nerd in the Tasm movies. Tasm 2 may have an over stiffed story that isn't always coherent. The rhino was wasted but Green Goblin was actually dangerous and creepy af in Tasm 2. His laugh was on point. He looked evil af and he killed Gwen. I do wish they kept the scene of SM almost killing him after he killed Gwen but still the Las fight scenes with Max then immediately after that GG came in and that scene was intense. Tasm 2 did what a superhero movie should do. Great cgi, great acting, great action scenes, good emotional scenes, it is over hated. The story was all over but everything else the movie did it did great. I re watch the Tasm movies over lore than I have Rami and Mcu SM movies. I was glad to see AG finally get some love from people. The problem with Tasm 2 was Sony wanted to set up for Sinister 6 and The Black Cat spinoff and I'm sure more. The movie is still over hated and I am in the minority that love those 2 movies more than the others.
that tony stark case is just a fancy workbench, it does not make everything for you with a press of a button. it still took Peter's intellect to put everything together and create cures.
I agree, that and Peter has always been broke, so even in the comics, he's often seen "borrowing" things from other's labs.
42:33 to be fair they did leave themselves decent out with the goblin cure with Tobey having a line like "ill do goblin, I've been thinking about it for a long time". And since we see it's been years since his trilogy in his universe i think they want us to think that he came up with the cure but way after fighting both goblins.
Point about having magic box and having similar or even better results with a small (i think school) lab does stand tho, it feels weird the knowledge of Tobey and Andrew made bigger difference than magic stark box compared to lab supplies.
So Cody here’s the explanation as to why Venom knows who Peter is, he mentions at the end of the post credit scene of Venom 2 that the symbiotes have a hive mind all throughout the multiverse so I assume he knows who Peter is and knows that he’s spider man through the RAIMIVERSE VENOM because obv in Spider-Man 3 Eddie figures out that Peter Parker is Spider-Man so I presume that the symbiote in that movie somehow communicated to Tom Hardy’s venom who Peter Parker is, idk this for sure but this is the best explanation there is for venom being warped into the MCU
This is the explanation. That’s why when he sees Tom on the motel TV, Venom goes “That…guy…”. Tom Hardy/Eddie doesn’t know who Peter is, but VENOM (the symbionte) knows Spider-Man’s identity, and he recognizes the spider suit.
Enjoyed the movie, choked up a couple of times (that part where Andrew saved MJ had me like a baby) and the ending got me wanting more, hit the marks where it had too, bit too fan service for my liking but was an amazing experience
9/10
To your point on Andrew feeling off, I thought him Tobey and toms dialog was all great. Especially the 3 of them together. It was other characters dialog and humor that didn't land for me. I really thought Andrew got a great redemption run here in this film. He got to save MJ, when he was down on himself saying he sucks(in regards to fan response to his SM) Tobey tells him "No your Amazing" "Like really Amazing" and Andrew says "I really needed that". So to me it was a pleasure seeing him. And boy is he a God dam Liar.
I'm in the minority AG has been my favorite and the best SM and PP portrayed in Live action. People labeled "Nerds" have drastically changed over time. In some comics Peter was an outcast by choice and kind of a Jerk. His Spider-Man is goated and his PP is way more accurate than people give him credit for. His build is better as well. Tasm2 has the best luve action suit, best swinging scenes, best cgi, best chemistry with his love interest, Green Goblin Jr is better than the Harry from Ramis. He was creepy, looked badass/evil af. His laugh was cynical, and he killed Gwen. Rhino was wasted so I don't even count him as a bad guy in the movie. I consider the movie only having 2. The last act when he had to fight Max then immediately after that GG shows up . Up to Gwen's death is a grwat action scene. The slo mo scenes while using his Spider sense is so bad ass looking. Besides having a convoluted story because Sony wanted to set up the S6 and Black Cat spinoff for their Sony verse is what hurt the story. Along with some important scenes they cut. When it comes to the Suit, actors, cgi, chemistry, and being a fun super hero movie it does all of that right. I understand people not liking the movie but the hate fornit is ridiculous. Tasm 1 had a better story and it was put together so much better but TASM2 did everything else better and it's a fun movie they are My favorites to watch over. Not a fan of Tom Holland having all the tech since Homecoming. That is why I love the way this movie ended. Made his own suit. Living on his own and is actually solo now. Spiderman having all that tech took away from what makes him Spiderman. Toby is my 2nd favorite Spider-Man but AG is the GOAT. I really wish he would get a 3rd movie to finish off his triology.. He deserves it. I know I'm in the minority but it's just my opinion. TASM 1 & 2 are the GOAT SM movies and AG and ES are the GOAT love interest and AG is the GOAT SM with the best suit
One thing I caught that was pretty funny about the organic webbing, was during the big fight Toby accidentally webs Andrew's face and Andrew replies with "eww" it was just a quick line, but hilarious to know he was squeamish over the organic webs
Actually it's the other way around, andrew webs tobeys face and he says gross.
@@ColdSoldier02 why would that make sense?
@@jackkawf4449 exactly, it doesn't but if you watch that scene, that's how it happens.
@@ColdSoldier02 I just did, it was Andrew, the whole point is the organic web is gross because it's coming from Toby's body somehow, because if not then the "ew" part makes no sense, since created webs wouldn't be as "gross" as fluid from your body.
@@jackkawf4449 but you hear andrew say sorry and then tobey tears it off saying gross. So
Great review Cody. Just saw it with my brothers. This film was everything I wanted and everything I wasn't sure I was going to get. Glad I wasn't spoiled. Shame that it happens. But a great theater experience. Love that Tom had his growth moment/moments like Tobey and Andrew. I just had a great time. Start to finish. Not perfect, I have some nitpicks, but nothing that ruins the film. So excited for Spiderman going foward. Excited about venom, Daredevil, Kingpin(from Hawkeye), and Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness directed by Sam Rami. All that is great. Glad to be a marvel fan.🤘
Awawwwwwwwwww
I just want to point out, I think u missed the point of him being outed a little bit. It’s not that people know his identity, It’s the fact that everybody thinks he killed mysterio. Who everybody still believes was a good guy
When Andrew saved MJ, he cries and remembers the time he couldn’t save Gwen
That was a heavy scene
When he caught her midair I was happy but when it cut to him holding her about to cry a tear went down my face, can tell that moment really bought him back to what happened with Gwen. Andrew Garfield such an amazing actor
@@1KQ_ I misread that as him catching her by her hair 😂
I wouldn't have minded if they stretched the scene or used slo mo just a little longer when he was saving MJ but I'm sure a lot of people would have complained. I think it is perfect the way it is.. It would have been a wild suprise if he missed and went 0-2 😂😂
Having Andrew save MJ and then stopping Tom from killing the green goblin would been overkill for that character. They had to even out all the big moments in the final act between the three of them
The fan reaction in the theater was worth it alone.. The most fun I’ve had going to the movies & go a chance to share the experience with my kids 😊
I absolutely loved this movie! The Raimi films are so special to me, so seeing Tobey again really got me choked up. I am really excited to see where Sony goes from here.
I agree
I loved this movie! The three scenes that made me the happiest are the Andrew/Tobey, Tom’s Spidey and Sandman VS Electro and that small conversation between Tobey and Sandman!
I liked Green Goblin’s suit/mask personally, I get what people mean when they compare it to power rangers, but I didn’t mind and I wish we got to see more of it in No Way Home.
I liked Sandman in Spiderman 3 personally.
Also I agree that Electro in this movie feels different than he was in Amazing Spiderman 2.
Can’t say that Andrew Garfield felt different from the Amazing Spiderman movies myself though.
In terms of actors I like them all, but in terms of Spiderman Tobey is my favorite too (wouldn’t say he’s a campy version of the character, at least not in a bad way).
The “consciences” didn’t bother me, but I see where you’re coming from.
I thought they did a good job of giving Andrew Garfield a moment where he had tears in his eyes.
Can’t say I minded that it was Tobey that stopped the glider, but an interesting point even if I don’t agree myself.
Also didn’t have a problem with MJ in the raimi films, but I agree Gwen and Andrew in the Amazing movies was great.
Venom was a missed opportunity, but glad the symbiote stays. Not sure how he came and left the MCU though.
Overall I agree it was a great movie, definitely the best of the MCU Spiderman movies. Interested to see what comes next.
Didn’t mind the MCU stuff, but I do like Spiderman on his own and there is potential.
I do wonder how Sam Raimi or Marc Webb would have made it though if they had a say in it.
I’m so with you on the goblin suit. Again with the power rangers reference, but honestly I could never take his comic book version seriously. The suit with the mask tho I can get behind with. Idk it just fits.
I loved Norman's new Goblin costume with the hood up and green armour under the purple cloak was cool!
To be fair with the whole secret identity plot line they did go with it effecting the college apps and how it screwed up his friends/loves futures as well.
Eddie/Venom does know who Peter is because they saw him on the news after he got exposed by Mysterio. It was a post-credit scene in Let There Be Carnage.
Venom knows who Pet/Spider because they have a symbiotic relationship across universes.
One of my favorite little details: when Peter is in his astral form, you can see his spider sense tingling. Like transparent cartoony lines.
5:17
Yeah but in fairness, though other characters have had their identities revealed, they are usually characters who are able to handle something like that and more or less willingly gave their identities away.
Peter had no choice here, and is not something he was ready to deal with.
Plus he then got the added factor of people thinking he killed Mysterio. So that itself is reason enough for him to panic
It made the most sense that Tobey stopped Tom as he seeked revenge in the first movie and led the guy to his death and he also forgave Marco, Andrews Spider-Man however abandons finding bens killer halfway through the movie and it makes the most sense for Tobey so I disagree with that. Great review though man.👍🏾
Sorry but I must disagree with you at the 49m40s mark....when Garfield sames MCU MJ, he is balling his eyes out as he asks her if shes ok; remembering how he couldnt save Gwen
Maybe I’m overly nostalgic about it. But I really liked the green goblin costume. I know it looks a little silly but still feels kind of bad ass in the way.
That scene when tobey maguire and alfred malina see each other at the end. And that classic danny elfman score started playing. I started to get tears in my eyes a light.
Love all the spider-men so far. Most nostalgia for Tobey, but damn When Andrew tags in and saves MJ. That had me emotional over everything.
I know it felt quick for you but Andrews reaction to it was so effective
It was because of Peters Spider Senses as to why he was able to move the box away from strange even while out of his body I think
I loved it, some moments made me shed a tear, and the nostalgia, man, it hit hard!!!!
I think when Cody watches the movie again he will have a different take on Andrew Garfield rescue of MJ. The emotion on his face and tears was a great moment, especially when MJ asked him 'if he was OK?'. Considering how much you remembered from a first watch Cody, you can be forgiven for this oversight. Great job with spoiler review! 👏
Cody: two of your grievances you are wrong about…
1) Garfield’s Spider-Man feels different because it’s years after part 2 and like he said he’s grizzled, vengeful and it changed him
2) I’ll give you Stark’s magic machine is a bit much but the cure for Green Goblin was created by Toby who specifically says he figured out the cure years too late as he couldn’t stop thinking about it (which is why it was his moment to stop Hollander from killing Osborne. He didn’t want to kill Osborne in 2001 but he had no choice… it was his redemption)
I have to disagree with the fact about Andrew feeling off. It was perfect for me as a spiderman fan.
Venom from Toby's universe knows Spider-Man identity. So the Symbiot regardless of multiple universes are a connected system
Dude I love how your background music is in unison with your review. Great attention to detail!!
Great review however Andrew conveyed everything we needed with his acting when he saved MJ, you could easily tell from his tears and "good" that he somehow came to tears with Gwen's death, he redeemed himself for sure.
As for Toby stopping Tom from killing goblin I believe it fit the most, goblin was killed fighting Toby and as a result he also lost Harry.
I love how Doc Oc is on my side. “Spells? As in magic? What is this a birthday party? Who is this clown? What is this madness?” Still super fun
I think you might need to rewatch that scene where Andrew saves mj. He saves her and he says are you okay and then he’s still just holding her and he looks like he’s about to tear up and she says are you okay and he pauses and nods really quick and is like “yeah yeah” and he looks like he’s about to cry.
Agree with Garfield and even maguire felt different than their og movies from their performance to even their voices felt a little off still awesome nonetheless also loved Garfield existential crisis line with maguire
I feel like it made sense for Tobey to stop the glider, it parallels the first movie where goblin died from his own glider, but here Tobey saved him.
Actually he dodges doctor strange while in projection because if you notice above Peter's head is the symbol for spider sense that's in so many games and into the spider verse. I love that.
Facts !!! that’s what was moving him
I actually like it better that Tobey's the one stopping the revenge. First off because Garfield already had his great moment with M.J and on the sad off between all three spidermen. And second, just for the fact that Maguire is the most seasoned one, he lived through all this moments of life and has the capacity of being the mentor or Obi-wan if you will. I love thst he was the one who stoped Tom... Also... He has the most funny awesome doe eyes, how can anyone say no to those watery blue eyes man?!
1:03:23 At first I was like oh shit your right. But then I thought and realized that in the venom post credit scene he see’s Spider-Man on Tv and JJJ saying Peter Parker is Spider-Man as I recall so I think that’s how it makes sense.
When AG saved MJ he asked "Ae you ok?" She said yeah and the emotion AG conveys in those 5 seconds it was pretty emotional thanks to AG acting. He had a tear in his eye. Rnning down his cheek and his expression especually his eyes has plenty of emotions. I wouldn't have minded them stretcing it out a little longer but as it is it's it's perfect and has a lot of emotions. It lingers on AG for a few seconds
If we're talking about good lines, I'm surprised you left out "You know, I'm something of a scientist myself."
Actually Venom knows Peter is Spider-Man because of the hive mind of the symbiote across the multiverse which connects to the Spider-Man 3 Venom
This is definitely my favorite Spider-Man film now. It really made me start liking toms Spider-Man too and I’m actually excited for the first time in 5 years to see where his Spider-Man will go from here
I absolutely loved this movie. Tobey is my guy. Love his version of Peter Parker. Just all around great film. Had more than a few tears in this one ( both out of joy and out of sadness ).
Andrew did amazing and especially his MJ catch which nearly had me in tears of happiness.
I’m not sure if you know this - but it was Sony’s call to not include uncle Ben at ALL. No reference, cameo etc. Was just one of there rules.
The pitch meeting for this is possibly the greatest ever. Maybe that is a crossover we need with Cody Leach!
I do think the humour was lacking at times, but the emotional moments and fan service made up for the weaker parts of the film and Willem Dafoe did a great job playing the tragic side of Norman and playing the sinister of Norman!
I’ve watched about 6 hours worth of spoiler reviews for this movie… yours is the most honest and has the most thought put into it. I want to start doing reviews and hopefully work with you on one…one day…
Thank you
I definitely would love to see a amazing Spider Man 3 and spider man 4 and I know they was a rumor a while back that Sony was in talk with Sam raimi and Tobey maguire to return so who knows what could happened in the future . And I will say if ghostbusters 1984 can get a long awaited sequel then anything is possible
I want those! Especially Spider-Man 4!
I have your answer for the mid credit scene. The end credits of Let There Be Carnage had the symbiote say "80 billion years of hive knowledge across universes". So the most logical explanation is that the Tom Hardy Venom recognized Spider-Man via the hive connection to the Venom symbiote from the Raimi movies and that connection explains why he knows Spider-Man is Peter Parker
What makes everyone knowing who Spider-Man different from all them other avengers is that he’s still a child.
Lol
@@terryhaircastle5702 what you don’t agree?
@@stevieb274 no dude I do agree. It's just the description of him as a 'child', which implies pre-teen that got me 😂
Loving this spoiler review brother but im just saying, when the amazing spidey cought and saved MJ there was a good moment where Garfield showed major emotion thinking back to Gwen when he looked at MJ.
Like it broke his heart all over again knowing he just saved MJ but couldnt save Gwen.
Probably the best/longest origin story!
But I feel like the public finding out Spider-Man’s identity in the mcu would be a big deal, considering all the other avengers identities are known except for Spider-Man so people would be intrigued by that
Awesome review Cody. I'm really enjoying your new laid back extended spoiler reviews: You're getting pretty good at doing long form videos. 🙂
I took it as the spidey sense was why he was able to keep box away from strange. The box was from far from home. I think that's how he made the new spidey suite.
I wish the same song played when Andrew leaped for MJ and slowed down the whole thing.
In the venom 2 post credit venom says the symbiote is a hive mind across universes, venom might know who Spider-Man is because a version of Spider-Man (Tobey Maguire) killed a symbiote.
Venom has a hive mind with every symbiote from every universe. So he definitely knows who Peter is
I thought Tom Hardy's cameo felt like an MTV Movie Awards sketch with that observational humor
Andrew saving MJ totally worked for me and had time to breathe for sure. It was all over his face and in his eyes when she asked if he was okay that he was able to redeem himself at least a little by saving her.
When I saw Tom Holland's Peter walking into the apartment I thought I was going to hear a familiar voice saying, "rent?"
I'm surprised he didn't mention this but in the lab scene where ned said Peter and they started pointing at each other made me lose my shit lol
The way I took it was both spidermen was a older version of there self and that was the reason they acted different from there movies
RE: Venom getting warped in
The symbiote explains to Eddie at the end of Let there be Carnage that his race is a multiversal hivemind, meaning that because a version (likely Topher) knows Peter is Spider-Man, that this one does too. This also feels like the perfect time for Peter to bond with the symbiote, given he is alone and very vulnerable.
Also, IIRC, Holland is signed on for another trilogy with Disney so Spider-Man is still part of the MCU. The director for this is the same as the upcoming Fantastic 4, feels very likely that he'll show up there given the history.
I just watched No Way Home in theatres with my dad and as a longtime Spider-Man fanatic, this movie satisfied me greatly. It might actually be my favorite Spidey film next to Spider-Man 2.
Tobey got in the way of the glider killing goblin because he got out of the way of it in his film. Curing goblin prevented him going back to his world and having this exact thing happen to him Tobey saved two people, once of which was redeeming because what would have been with his version of Harry if he could’ve saved Harry’s dad with what he knows now.
Leaving the symbiote behind is a way to help set up Secret Wars
Toby McGuire Spider-Man suite is by far the best suite. I actually like the look of the 2002 green goblin suite. The new one is the same suite just war damaged and has the hood over his head like the comic.
My favorite will always be Spider-Man (2002).. Yeah im biased to the Raimi trilogy, but i still think its the best superhero origin movie by far.
Agreed other than Batman begins which I think is a little more in depth but they're both perfect .
Instead of basically a Doctor Strange 2 commercial I was hoping the post credit scene was going to show the other spidermen returning to their worlds. Would have been a nicer caper than seeing Disney plug itself again
His past 3 movies are like an origin story trilogy in a way.
mid credit scene saw Venom watching news report with Tom Holland unmasked...Venom goes "THAT GUUUYYY"...and he licks the screen,that I thought was how Venom knew of Tom Holland's Peter Parker,just in that one moment.
Honestly the whole identity being exposed hits a bit harder for spidey because i cant remember for sure if any other heros ever got blamed for “killing” a “hero” that saved the “planet”. The other avengers were loved by almost everyone, while peter has his rep destroyed by mysterios plan.
I took a bathroom break as soon as the movie cut to MJ and Ned chilling in Ned’s house.
Figured it would be an uneventful scene.
Words cannot describe my bewilderment coming back and seeing Andrew Garfield
Scorpion, rhino, tombstone, and kraven were all the shadows in the sky during the rift.
1:03:51 I think at the end of venom 2 venom talks to eddy about being all these different universes and when he saw spider man on the tv he said “that guy” like venom saw him from different universe before.
It’s very unfortunate, I just left the theater a third of the way through the movie because of screaming kids, kicking seats, people talking non stop etc. This wasn’t from one person, it was packed with low hanging fruit. I lost all immersion and couldn’t enjoy the film. Looks like I’ll just watch the spoiler review for now.
I always love your reviews so much Cody! I always Agree with most of your points of views and enjoy your perspective
Great review! I completely agree, I've been thinking recently that I miss the time where we didn't have all this theorising, analysing and dissecting trailers or hypothetical things that could happen in a film. We could just go in, no expectations, fresh eyes and a complete blank canvas, and just be surprised by what we see. Such a shame things aren't like that now.
Edit - I also completely agree that they should've lingered on certain moments, especially Andrew Garfield's Spider-man saving MJ. That part gave me chills, it was so poetically beautiful.
It's better that Tobey stopped Tom from killing Goblin because, as Andy and Tobey had said, the killing doesn't make the pain go away. Tobey and Goblin having history drives the point home.
Did you not see the part after he saved mj where it just pans in his face for a while with him crying looking at mj realizing he at least got to save her even though he couldn’t save Gwen
I was a child, I think 12, when the first spiderman movie with Toby Maguire came out and I was bouncing in my seat when the other two came into the movie. Toby got a round of applause when he walked into the room. It was an amazing moment.
I thought they could have gave Norman and Tony a better moment at the end when they save him from being the Green Goblin. They kinda just save him and throw him into the background. Would have been nice for some closure dialogue between those two.
I saw the classic Rhino in that one scene.
I feel like by the end of this movie having made the sacrifice one has to make to be a hero. Peter Parker truly became Spiderman.
This film was pure joy. I went dark for 3 days when this movie was released I just saw it yesterday & NOTHING was ruined for me. Even though we are in a world where all superheroes are revealed its still different for Peter because everyone else are adults he's still a kid. Totally agreed with that Cody the comedy was a bit much it was like amateur hour at the Apollo. I really wish they knew what to do with Sandman I really like his character. I loved Electro here he was a standout for me. I already knew Dafoe & Molina were going to be perfection. But Jamie surprised me especially since he was so eh in TASM2. Yea it was kinda awkward with Aunt Mae saying the "power/responsibility" line. But I'm glad there's no rehashing of the uncle ben timeline in the Tom Holland Spiderman. Tobey is 46 I swear he was in his 50s too 😂😂😂. Andrew saving MJ broke me I was not ok i kinda wanted to slide on the ground & die. I agree I wouldn't loved to see a flashback to Andrew trying to save Gwen before he grabbed MJ. Tobey stopping Tom was special YES I really thought they were going to kill off my Tobey. I think Tobey should've been the one to stop Tom it was the glider that killed Norman in Tobey's films. Andrew got his moment with MJ. I love Sam Rami films but I despised Kirsten Dunst in those movies 😂😂😂 I wanted to punch her in the face! And I love Tom & Zendaya together on screen & real life ❤. Excellent review as always Cody
Peter dodged Doctor Strange because of his spider sense. You could see it in his astral form around his head.