"We're Not Allowed To Say The Word Slave!" | Kevin O'Sullivan x Rod Liddle

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  • Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
  • Kevin O'Sullivan is joined by associate editor of The Spectator, Rod Liddle, to discuss the lyrics of Rule Britannia being described as 'incredibly problematic'. Katie, Derham, former Strictly Come Dancing star said while the song is a 'classical banger' she could see why some people may see it as problematic.
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  • @charlierumoldboi3939
    @charlierumoldboi3939 11 днів тому +25

    Rule Britannia is such a wonderful song. We will never, never be slaves! Superb.

    • @bernardedwards8461
      @bernardedwards8461 11 днів тому +1

      Britannia still rules the waves - on the Olympic boating lake, and the sun still never sets on the British Empire, only these days we call them dependencies and most are quite small, but some are much larger than powerful Singapore, the mighty atom which rules the waves in SE Asia and used to be one of our colonies..

  • @JilliDoodles
    @JilliDoodles 11 днів тому +12

    Apparently we are not allowed to say 'murdered', 'died' or 'suicide' either. We have to say unalived and self checkout instead. Dumbed down language to spare the 'feelings' of dumbed down people.

    • @shaunrobjohn7712
      @shaunrobjohn7712 9 днів тому

      @@JilliDoodles read the mollycoddling of the American mind which shows you the insanity being forced upon us

  • @R_McGeddon117
    @R_McGeddon117 12 днів тому +29

    BBC Land of no hope or no glory

  • @AndyJarman
    @AndyJarman 11 днів тому +9

    Not miserable enough, BAN IT!

  • @DavidGetling
    @DavidGetling 11 днів тому +5

    Wonderful song. It should be a condition of employment at the BBC that you know Rule Britannia by heart and can sing it in tune.

  • @petergalloway7978
    @petergalloway7978 11 днів тому +8

    I am a 77 year old man we were taught this song when l was at school what is wrong with that

  • @NorthernExposure1
    @NorthernExposure1 12 днів тому +23

    What’s the LGBT flag got to with it?!!

    • @sbor2020
      @sbor2020 11 днів тому

      She's a lesbian. Geddit?

    • @AndyJarman
      @AndyJarman 11 днів тому +2

      You mean it didn't Liberate you?

    • @jenniferpierno6108
      @jenniferpierno6108 9 днів тому +2

      Offensive homosexual paraphernalia, totally inappropriate

    • @sbor2020
      @sbor2020 9 днів тому

      @@jenniferpierno6108 I would've thought "homosexual paraphenalia" was a strap on.

  • @JohnCatto
    @JohnCatto 10 днів тому +7

    It's a bloody song. I will continue saying exactly what I want.

  • @DarthPerkins
    @DarthPerkins 11 днів тому +4

    It's part of our history. We were slaves for about a thousand years, then a few hundred years after that we ruled most of the World.
    Perhaps other ex-slaves should focus on their freedom and not their enslavement.

  • @MarcoNegrisEye
    @MarcoNegrisEye 12 днів тому +10

    These absolute weirdos are blatant in their attempts of being wind up merchants 😂

    • @AaronMason-f9q
      @AaronMason-f9q 12 днів тому

      @@MarcoNegrisEye wind up my arse your a nazi

    • @sbor2020
      @sbor2020 11 днів тому

      You're cottoning on to it. Just like the avant-garde wound up the reactionaries The reactionaries in Germany were responsible for WWI. The Tory voting right is responsible for austerity, Brexit, and managed decline. What done worse damage?

    • @bumberClart1000
      @bumberClart1000 11 днів тому

      @@MarcoNegrisEye and far right freaks suck it up every time 😆

    • @apollomemories7399
      @apollomemories7399 10 днів тому

      @@sbor2020 You lost me with "The Tory voting right is responsible for austerity, Brexit, and managed decline."
      Have you completely forgotten - or did you even know - about what Labour did in the 1970's. Or what Blair did in his tenure from 1997 to 2007? What an incredibly dumb comment.

    • @sbor2020
      @sbor2020 10 днів тому

      ​@@apollomemories7399 Austerity and Brexit started with the Cameron. Correct? Managed decline started earlier but accelerated under the Tories. For example, Police numbers were cut by about 20,000 between 2010 and 2019, and child poverty has risen significantly since 2010, with food bank usage reaching record levels. In general, successive Conservative governments oversaw or contributed to a decline in public services, infrastructure, and social support systems, either through austerity, underfunding, or privatisation. The Labour government cannot carry out many of the election pledges, as the previous government left the economy in such a ruinous state.
      If you would like to deny this and claim that everything is Labour's fault, then go ahead provide support for your claim.

  • @marieparker3822
    @marieparker3822 11 днів тому +4

    The last line of the French National Anthem (La Marseillaise):
    'Let their foul blood drench our furrows.' - referring to the blood of the aristcrats, of course.

    • @jokerdog3332
      @jokerdog3332 10 днів тому

      @@marieparker3822 our new national anthem should include that line

  • @ste20ful
    @ste20ful 11 днів тому +5

    WERE IS THE BRITISH FLAG

    • @sbor2020
      @sbor2020 11 днів тому

      SPELLING! PUNCTUATION!

  • @RobertRobbinsvideomarketing
    @RobertRobbinsvideomarketing 11 днів тому +3

    My Grandfather and his brothers were born in Tonypandy Wales, they were all working in the coal mines at 9 years old, not because they wanted to but because to make ends meet they had to. They lived in a mining house 2 up and 2 down, boys in one bedroom and parents in the other, they had no hot water, only a coal fire for heating, a tin bath, and an outside toilet. When you talk about slavery you need look no further than early 20th century Wales! These were people born and bred in Wales. That in my honest opinion was slavery and it was home grown.

    • @carltaylor6452
      @carltaylor6452 11 днів тому

      You want to ask your ancestors to check their white privilege (and tell them to knock off the black-face, as well, while you're at it).

    • @apollomemories7399
      @apollomemories7399 10 днів тому

      Nothing at all unusual about the housing fcilities as you described as you would find exactly the same all over Britain. However, nine year olds going down a mine is awful. But, what does that say about Welsh society? I always thought it was the most backward part of UK, that and Cornwall.

  • @jenniferpierno6108
    @jenniferpierno6108 9 днів тому +4

    Love Rule Britannia. Find the homosexual paraphernalia is offensive and inappropriate.

  • @miclarkie
    @miclarkie 11 днів тому +4

    Cancelled my BBC license recently.

    • @jenniferpierno6108
      @jenniferpierno6108 9 днів тому

      It's full of sexual perverts and deviates of every kind. You are safe now that you don't watch it.

  • @carolwilson6281
    @carolwilson6281 12 днів тому +3

    Who are these people that think they own words and decide what should go and even worse the new language thats being introduced. People can say what they want and don't have to use words that they don't want to. If people don't like something then don't participate why do they think they are entitled to change things. What a lot of nonsense.

  • @colinlaird8992
    @colinlaird8992 11 днів тому +2

    Anyone who still pays the licence fee should stop after this treachery

    • @sbor2020
      @sbor2020 11 днів тому

      Explain how the BBC Proms eight weeks of treachery.

  • @AndyJarman
    @AndyJarman 11 днів тому +2

    La Marseillaise
    Arise, children of the Fatherland
    Our day of glory has arrived
    Against us the bloody flag of tyranny
    is raised; the bloody flag is raised.

  • @AlanKelly-v9o
    @AlanKelly-v9o 10 днів тому +3

    Don't pay the poxy Licence fee 💩🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇸🇻

  • @jokerdog3332
    @jokerdog3332 11 днів тому +7

    If we create a new national anthem will I have to learn Arabic?

  • @MsStack42
    @MsStack42 6 днів тому

    But how wonderful to see a Lady whole heartedly celebrating the fact that God promised to never flood the world again !

  • @rbir2653
    @rbir2653 9 днів тому +2

    Why are you lemons still paying the tv licence fee. If you just watch netflix or UA-cam you dont need to pay. Cancel your tv licence today. Defund the bbc.

  • @BebinnAineHowe
    @BebinnAineHowe 11 днів тому

    😅hilarious. Love you guys.

  • @marieparker3822
    @marieparker3822 11 днів тому +1

    Perhaps Rafe Heydel-Mankoo could clarify this:
    'Britons never, never, NEVER shall be slaves!'
    Does this also refer to the fact that anyone - a slave from another jurisdiction, perhaps - who set foot on British soil automatically became a free person?

    • @sbor2020
      @sbor2020 11 днів тому

      Britons never, never, never *will* be slaves.

  • @keithdenton8386
    @keithdenton8386 9 днів тому +1

    If you find it offensive, go to a country that you like the music and don't find it offensive. Simple.

  • @jacquelinepearson2288
    @jacquelinepearson2288 9 днів тому

    Why are they in charge of the content? They always televised it, but it wasn't under the remit of BBC years ago.

  • @shaunrobjohn7712
    @shaunrobjohn7712 11 днів тому +1

    Does anyone ever feel sorry for the Slavic people who the name refers to ?

  • @carltaylor6452
    @carltaylor6452 11 днів тому +1

    If I never heard the word 'slave' or 'slavery' again uttered by a middle-class grifter I would be relieved, but I guess it's only in certain contexts that it's 'problematic'; we are still going to be battered about the ears with it every time we switch on Radio 4 or visit a museum.

    • @jenniferpierno6108
      @jenniferpierno6108 9 днів тому

      I think it was very shameful of Africans to sell their own people into slavery and they're still doing it

  • @MANGOCATCHER1
    @MANGOCATCHER1 12 днів тому +4

    In History we read about the slave traders

    • @sbor2020
      @sbor2020 11 днів тому

      Are you still in Secondary Modern?

    • @dawnsparks9207
      @dawnsparks9207 11 днів тому

      Do You read about the Africans who got rich selling the slaves? That money has not been paid back. Their ancesters are still rich from slavery, let them start there, before they want money from us. The first country to stop slavery. Amèrica had hundreds of slaves now one seems to want to talk about that, just the evil GB

  • @jimoconnor2594
    @jimoconnor2594 12 днів тому +2

    Spartacus was

    • @CIMAmotor
      @CIMAmotor 11 днів тому

      So was St Patrick.

    • @jenniferpierno6108
      @jenniferpierno6108 9 днів тому

      Spartacus was a slave. I well remember Kirk Douglas rowing.

  • @michaeljanes-jm5vc
    @michaeljanes-jm5vc 6 днів тому

    Keep your hands still Kev, not a good look.

  • @user-ns5rc5oz8n
    @user-ns5rc5oz8n 11 днів тому

    Would the British engish woman be offend by slave as she was the first to made so?

  • @graemeswaddle-nx1uy
    @graemeswaddle-nx1uy 11 днів тому

    The Italian one is good

  • @BRI-25040
    @BRI-25040 10 днів тому

    Slave slave slave ? Freedom of speech?

  • @annhoward5210
    @annhoward5210 8 днів тому

    I wont

  • @dean3084
    @dean3084 12 днів тому +1

    WTF

  • @27july1954
    @27july1954 8 днів тому

    Who says we are not allowed to say the word slave? This is just clickbait.
    Rule Britannia and the National Anthem have some uncomfortable lyrics in them for starters, as do many of the 'patriotic' songs of Empire. That doesn't mean we should ban them though I am in favour of finding a more appropriate National Anthem. Leave Rule Britannia alone. Let them belt it out at the last night of the proms. Not fussed. I don't take them seriously.

  • @TrishaRodgers-ng2xc
    @TrishaRodgers-ng2xc 11 днів тому

    🤮🤮🤮🤮

  • @paulroberts7561
    @paulroberts7561 8 днів тому +1

    Slave, why can't I say slave. There is nothing wrong with the word slave.. if I can't say slave what word can I use instead of slave to describe a slave.

  • @Anthony-eb5gl
    @Anthony-eb5gl 9 днів тому

    Grave diggers out