Izzy deserves far more credit. He brought the funk to the GnR sound. Hearing him and Slash go back and forth is one of the best parts of this album and original GnR as a whole
Remember that he also had the pleasure of playing behind Duff, Steven and of course Slash & Axl....that helped Izzy more than anything in his musical career more than anything imo.
@@jeffgreene1055What do you mean playing 'behind' Duff, Slash, Steven and Axl? If anything, they played with him or on top of him. They had the pleasure of playing songs that he helped write, compose, arrange, and even sing lead or backup on.
I love Izzy, but completely disagree. Izzy wrote the majority of the music, Axl added the layers, slash added the funk. Izzy was THE key song contributor, but his style was more reggae rock n roll, without slash and axl primarily, his tunes would only have been very good, with all 5, their contributions have never been beaten
I agree completely. Well, metaphorically, though, Izzy was Slash's rock in a lot of ways. I don't think Slash realized what a great partner he had in Izzy until he didn't have him anymore. I think he always knew they had a good thing, but when Izzy was really gone and it came time to compose, arrange, and write without him, he realized how phenomenally well they worked together. They balanced each other out, brought the best out of each other - their two different styles complemented each other. It's a perfect example of how two guitarists versus one can take the music up a notch.
He's the definition of world's most underrated guitarist in my opinion. One of the biggest bands in the world ever and no one other than true fans/guitarists knows who he is. When you listen to his tracks in isolation, you realise how much work he was putting in and how creative he was and how his contribution was a major element of the GnR sound. They were the perfect storm. Malcom Young is a close 2nd in world's underrated guitarist for exactly the same reasons.
Spot on. And we're talking 70's glam, not hair metal. The glam/punk feel of Appetite is the same to me as on Too Fast For Love by Motley Crue. Both albums heavily driven by their respective drummers, and their rough mixes. Izzy just laid a scratch track down, then never returned to the studio. TFFL was supposed to be a demo but never got re-recorded. The grooves of both Steven Adler and Tommy Lee were perfect for each. Two of the most attitude infused albums ever cut.
Of course he could. I mean, just because he was a rhythm guitarist doesn't mean he couldn't play lead. Slash liked and wanted to play lead. That's what he was hired for. But Izzy played a little lead. I'm sure he would have played more but let Slash have it. He could definitely do them though.
i was in a band about 10 years ago with a female singer. i was the only guitarist we used to do this one it was our best song always brought the house down.
What you’re hearing is not 100% Izzy. There are several spots where it switches to some of Slash’s lead parts or other overdubs and Izzy’s main rhythm part is buried. Still very cool - it’s just “missing” some parts.
Because this is from Guitar Hero 3. AFD is basically left channel Izzy, right channel Slash rhythm, then Slash solo in the middle, and several extra Slash parts here and there. Guitar Hero 3 only had 2 guitars so many of these parts are mixed here.
They were either limited on tracks or they were leaving room frequency & stereo wise to avoid any freq cancellation & sound clutter. But I love it. It's part of what's great about Appetite... the way little guitar lines & fills cut in and out. Sometimes they're sparse and sometimes intense but it's beautifully arranged and there's no arguing with the final product. Afterall, isolated tracks are not important, it's all about the full mix. Which in the case of Appetite is downright stellar(As I'm sure you know). Cheers my friend!
@@t-boog2173 This track comes from the video game Guitar Hero III. For some reason they spliced the tracks all weird for that game. For example, in this track you can hear Izzy's rhythm but it cuts out during Slash's solos and little fills here and there. Izzy's parts that are cut out on this track are on the vocal track in the game if I remember correctly. That's on UA-cam as well. Anyway, the tracks were not mixed like that on the actual record. Izzy's track would have had his entire part on the same track. Slash's rhythm part would have been on its own track in it's entirety and his lead guitar overdubs would have been on their own tracks as well.
@@506thLittleberry Oh, I got you. Heck, Appetite has so many guitar parts & layers, I honestly didn't think it was that unusal. Btw, I grew up in the 80's where 16 or 24 tracks were all you had and drum mics usually ate up 8 or so of those tracks. So we got good at punching in fills & parts whereever we could fit them. Like if the vocal harmony track was silent in the verses, we would use that space to punch in another part. Anyway, Thanks for setting me straight. Rock On!
The parts that are izzy are good. But many parts are slash. Like the solo, along with the high pitched sound at the end of the verse I'm the beginning and end portion that's played 12 on the high G B and e strings, the high pitched notes in the breakdown (only 2 of the are izzy), and the ascending dimished chord at the end of the break down. And it completely skipped over izzy's portions during bith solo's amd just played Slash's solo's. Wherever you got this from marbled up the mixes.
He said in the description he put in slashs parts a little too because during the solos izzy doesn't do much. He didn't want to leave it in silence that whole time and to make it more Interesting he put in some slash
@@timelapsekings3787 But if you listen to the record you can hear a lot going on behind the solos. Someone is playing some rhythm riffs, whether Izzy or Slash is playing it, there's definitely plenty going on. Whoever put this together missed something.
@@50-Fifty-Vintage correct. This is the best video I could find about izzy’s part. Izzy is definitely doing something behind slash his parts. ua-cam.com/video/pXugHzNtBHA/v-deo.html
If you read a couple comments above it says this is from guitar hero or one of those games? And its cut up differently in that game (and here) than it is on the album. So where you are hearing Slash only and not Izzy, that is due to the game taking out Izzy's parts there. Evidently they have another part of the game where some of Slash's parts are removed as well. Look above for the comment.
In the description he says that he added some others parts and not only izzy's to make it run smoother and not leave silence. Slash does that part and izzy doesn't.
Izzy is amazing he has written most of there riffs and songs . Yhere is no gnr without Izzy y yhey weren't same when he left. Gilby is ok but hes not Izzy. Ih zzy is cool bad ass legend
This is not a full Izzy track ....Izzy did not play all those parts as some are over dubs from Slash later in the recording process. This only shows the BS of "Izzy" was Guns N' Roses.
terrible guitarrista ritmico sabe llenar cada espacio como asi tambien darle espacios a los arreglos de slash ... vale destacar tambien q era un buen compositor y con un buen estilo era el q le ponia el rock and roll a la banda..
@@vinniesmyyth334 it has his cool vibe doesn't it. One of the things about the duff, slash, izzy, and axl doing solo work post use your Illusion is you can hear what they each brought in. Izzy definitely had the funk and cool vibe going on.
Izzy deserves far more credit. He brought the funk to the GnR sound. Hearing him and Slash go back and forth is one of the best parts of this album and original GnR as a whole
THIS
Remember that he also had the pleasure of playing behind Duff, Steven and of course Slash & Axl....that helped Izzy more than anything in his musical career more than anything imo.
@@jeffgreene1055What do you mean playing 'behind' Duff, Slash, Steven and Axl? If anything, they played with him or on top of him. They had the pleasure of playing songs that he helped write, compose, arrange, and even sing lead or backup on.
I love Izzy, but completely disagree. Izzy wrote the majority of the music, Axl added the layers, slash added the funk. Izzy was THE key song contributor, but his style was more reggae rock n roll, without slash and axl primarily, his tunes would only have been very good, with all 5, their contributions have never been beaten
Slash was the rock, Izzy was the roll. Their push and pull is what made Appetite for Destruction such a compelling guitar record.
Never looked it that way. Well said👍
Oh really
I agree completely. Well, metaphorically, though, Izzy was Slash's rock in a lot of ways. I don't think Slash realized what a great partner he had in Izzy until he didn't have him anymore. I think he always knew they had a good thing, but when Izzy was really gone and it came time to compose, arrange, and write without him, he realized how phenomenally well they worked together. They balanced each other out, brought the best out of each other - their two different styles complemented each other. It's a perfect example of how two guitarists versus one can take the music up a notch.
I remember Izzy referring to Adler as the Push and Pull.
Izzy was definitely underated his rythym guitar made all those songs great
Exactly!
He's the definition of world's most underrated guitarist in my opinion. One of the biggest bands in the world ever and no one other than true fans/guitarists knows who he is. When you listen to his tracks in isolation, you realise how much work he was putting in and how creative he was and how his contribution was a major element of the GnR sound. They were the perfect storm. Malcom Young is a close 2nd in world's underrated guitarist for exactly the same reasons.
@@guyditchfield5888 I couldn't have said better, you just took the words out of my mouth
Totally. Izzy, duff and Adler kept it all together.
@@todd-1 and as soon as Steven was fired, the shit hit the fan :(
That sweet, sweet Izzy tone. Such an underrated rhythm guitarist. I love his playing style. This is cool.
Hes my favourite rythym guitarist ever. Great tone and feel..
Izzy is the unsung hero of GNR. Truly inspired writing. And he's confident enough to stay out of Slash's way.
He was the glue that held this album together.
Agree.
@@deckard2665*band. Although Richard Fortus is doing an amazing job in his place
in izzy we trust
right on my dude
he deserved a lot more appreciation for his talents
I love every parts of the song... Axl. Slash. Izzy. Duff. Steven.
Surprising how much of the song is present just in the rhythm part
Yep… i was working this out and was attributing much more of the phrases to Slash
It takes talent and confidence to stay out of Slash’s way, and Izzy nails it.
I love these isolated tracks my ears are shit but i can learn these parts from these isolated tracks by ear nice one
Guns are not hard to learn, but they take time
@@rafaruiz3462 so they are hard...
@@rafaruiz3462 It's not hard to build the great wall of china. It just takes time.
The guitar riff starting at 3.40 is wild
Incredible!. I played all with my guitar and it's awesome the Izzy's work. Love Izzy ♡
In the old GNR line up we trust!! Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy and Steven forever!!! We love you so much Izzy♥
Duff sounds amazing!
izzy was the classic pocket rhythm player ala angus young. he did his thing in the middle just right. izzy!!
Malcolm you mean
Brilliant and has a real glam feel to it that sets the album apart from many contemporaries.
yeah kinda reminds me of mick ralphs
Spot on. And we're talking 70's glam, not hair metal. The glam/punk feel of Appetite is the same to me as on Too Fast For Love by Motley Crue. Both albums heavily driven by their respective drummers, and their rough mixes. Izzy just laid a scratch track down, then never returned to the studio. TFFL was supposed to be a demo but never got re-recorded. The grooves of both Steven Adler and Tommy Lee were perfect for each. Two of the most attitude infused albums ever cut.
Izzy is 1 of the most unrated musicians
GnR went downhill after Izzy left
Izzy the man
So much of this sound was brilliant engineering, mixing, and mastering. And of course great playing.
The body of the track my opinion after hearing it like that. Huge fan wore out five cassettes in the car.
What a groove!
What a sound!!!
Holt shit! Finally, a UA-cam video with no “thumbs down”. The planets have aligned. Carry on.
Playing rhythm guitar is so much cooler than lead
Tone here is crap compared to the album.
Solo is actually Slash, because they had limited amount of tapes and reused it
Not going to lie, I think Izzy can definately play all of Slash's solos from the Appetite era.
🤣
Of course he could. I mean, just because he was a rhythm guitarist doesn't mean he couldn't play lead. Slash liked and wanted to play lead. That's what he was hired for. But Izzy played a little lead. I'm sure he would have played more but let Slash have it. He could definitely do them though.
You know he secretly played all the guitar solos
Wow. Hearing it for the first time and it is everything I suspected his playing to be. Sooo much more interesting than Slash's playing, IMO
Great! but you miss izzy's riffs in the slash solo in 1:33 :(
we can hear slash's guitar in some other parts too
i was in a band about 10 years ago with a female singer. i was the only guitarist we used to do this one it was our best song always brought the house down.
What you’re hearing is not 100% Izzy. There are several spots where it switches to some of Slash’s lead parts or other overdubs and Izzy’s main rhythm part is buried. Still very cool - it’s just “missing” some parts.
Because this is from Guitar Hero 3. AFD is basically left channel Izzy, right channel Slash rhythm, then Slash solo in the middle, and several extra Slash parts here and there. Guitar Hero 3 only had 2 guitars so many of these parts are mixed here.
Izzy wrote the all album of appetite by his own, while listening a very old melody...
Why Izzy's parts have been replaced by Slash's parts during the solos?
They were either limited on tracks or they were leaving room frequency & stereo wise to avoid any freq cancellation & sound clutter. But I love it. It's part of what's great about Appetite... the way little guitar lines & fills cut in and out. Sometimes they're sparse and sometimes intense but it's beautifully arranged and there's no arguing with the final product.
Afterall, isolated tracks are not important, it's all about the full mix. Which in the case of Appetite is downright stellar(As I'm sure you know). Cheers my friend!
@@t-boog2173 This track comes from the video game Guitar Hero III. For some reason they spliced the tracks all weird for that game. For example, in this track you can hear Izzy's rhythm but it cuts out during Slash's solos and little fills here and there. Izzy's parts that are cut out on this track are on the vocal track in the game if I remember correctly. That's on UA-cam as well. Anyway, the tracks were not mixed like that on the actual record. Izzy's track would have had his entire part on the same track. Slash's rhythm part would have been on its own track in it's entirety and his lead guitar overdubs would have been on their own tracks as well.
@@506thLittleberry Oh, I got you. Heck, Appetite has so many guitar parts & layers, I honestly didn't think it was that unusal.
Btw, I grew up in the 80's where 16 or 24 tracks were all you had and drum mics usually ate up 8 or so of those tracks. So we got good at punching in fills & parts whereever we could fit them. Like if the vocal harmony track was silent in the verses, we would use that space to punch in another part. Anyway, Thanks for setting me straight. Rock On!
The parts that are izzy are good. But many parts are slash. Like the solo, along with the high pitched sound at the end of the verse I'm the beginning and end portion that's played 12 on the high G B and e strings, the high pitched notes in the breakdown (only 2 of the are izzy), and the ascending dimished chord at the end of the break down. And it completely skipped over izzy's portions during bith solo's amd just played Slash's solo's. Wherever you got this from marbled up the mixes.
He said in the description he put in slashs parts a little too because during the solos izzy doesn't do much. He didn't want to leave it in silence that whole time and to make it more Interesting he put in some slash
@@timelapsekings3787 But if you listen to the record you can hear a lot going on behind the solos. Someone is playing some rhythm riffs, whether Izzy or Slash is playing it, there's definitely plenty going on. Whoever put this together missed something.
@@50-Fifty-Vintage correct. This is the best video I could find about izzy’s part. Izzy is definitely doing something behind slash his parts.
ua-cam.com/video/pXugHzNtBHA/v-deo.html
If you read a couple comments above it says this is from guitar hero or one of those games? And its cut up differently in that game (and here) than it is on the album. So where you are hearing Slash only and not Izzy, that is due to the game taking out Izzy's parts there. Evidently they have another part of the game where some of Slash's parts are removed as well. Look above for the comment.
Izzy es guns and roses !!
interesting, it is more or less what I expected but less 'perfect' , duff sounds totally different t his trebley live sound
Why during the first lead break at 1:45 is slash shown playing the part?
(In the jungle video)
And again during the main solo
In the description he says that he added some others parts and not only izzy's to make it run smoother and not leave silence. Slash does that part and izzy doesn't.
Wouldn't be surprised if the got ALL this interplay from Hanoi Rocks. The HR album "Two Steps From The Move" is the blueprint for AFD.
This Is Slash Guitar
@Jeronimo Baro izzy not played that part: 3:24
Are you sure that is all Izzy?!
YES! everything except the solos. So funky!
I hear more Slash only than Izzy only, the solos and intro you can only hear Slash track plus bass.
Izzy is amazing he has written most of there riffs and songs . Yhere is no gnr without Izzy y yhey weren't same when he left. Gilby is ok but hes not Izzy. Ih zzy is cool bad ass legend
Izzy was made for slash and slash was made for Izzy
Does slash do anything on this song?
Yeah
no
He plays the tuba.
He sings the "shanananana knees" part.
That solo was slash
so psychedelic
paradise city please
Izzy didn't play the solo after 2:46 be t still a good isolated track
This is not a full Izzy track ....Izzy did not play all those parts as some are over dubs from Slash later in the recording process. This only shows the BS of "Izzy" was Guns N' Roses.
terrible guitarrista ritmico sabe llenar cada espacio como asi tambien darle espacios a los arreglos de slash ... vale destacar tambien q era un buen compositor y con un buen estilo era el q le ponia el rock and roll a la banda..
Todos sabemos que sin la creatividad de Izzy en la guitarra y sin el estilo punk de Duff en el bajo, Guns N' Roses no hubiese sido lo mismo.
This is Izzy only?? Im pretty sure he didnt play that in the intro or the main solo. Slash did.
Izzy doesn't do the solo
Need Izzy or there's no appetite.
Seems to be missing all the rhythm parts under the solos. Otherwise good.
izzy sounds better than slash!!!!
Is slash
check my other video, slash has more distortion
Slash plays more of a 16th note variation too, where as this is more loose and follows the rhythmic locket if the drums more
This is definitely Izzy Stradlin
@@vinniesmyyth334 it has his cool vibe doesn't it. One of the things about the duff, slash, izzy, and axl doing solo work post use your Illusion is you can hear what they each brought in. Izzy definitely had the funk and cool vibe going on.
It's pretty dirty compared to how the album sounds.
1:36 you liar! This is Slash playing!