Need to report that I THOUGHT this was a problem for wicked when I first saw it in 3D, but seeing it again not in 3D I think the visuals are often quite stunning. So I wonder if there is a disconnect between 3D showings and non 3D showings. Just a theory.
Thanks film drunk - you just gave me space for another you tuber - try to find some joy bro - the movie is wonderful - but I guess your sarcastic ass can’t see that - oh fyi - maybe time to get some better lighting, equipment so you don’t look like you do the channel in a mop/broom closet would be nice .. adios
To be fair, talking bad about the mcu feels so unoriginal nowadays. Especially after how Feige is handling it much better for next year. But I’m glad he’s honest.
@Dorian39 Daredevil looks atrocious compared to the original show. Thunderbolts looks generic. Brave New World looks embarrassing. Feige is a hack and anyone who thinks otherwise is gullible
You summed up my thoughts about the trailers and the visuals. It's like they had all the pieces to make it so vibrant and visually colorful and they fumbled it with the stupid grey filter, making it look boring or like something was missing.
"Emilia Perez is a Mess" That's pretty ballsy to put that in the title "WICKED: THE MCUification.." Yeah, this channel isn't gonna make it to Thanksgiving
Its true but there are good movies that are not appealing, in the same way are books that are badly written but have great story (fondation, dune, a lot of mistery novels)
True. This movie is not that though. It has some bad visuals, and some harsh lighting, but it also has amazing visuals and some really interesting choreography and editing that really bring the musical numbers to life. Saying it relies solely on the performers is just plain ignorant and needlessly radical.
I agree, the lighting really distracts the visionary component and I wished it carried a bit of the technicolor of the 1939 film. It was missing that lighting but I really think the performances and some of the songs are great, I just wished the lighting is enhanced. Great vid and have a good week 👍
I love your fearless critique of this movie! You GO Film Drunk!!! Be Fearless and Daring on what you your honest take is and do not sell out to the pressure from the herd.
Not really. Mostly comments like, “What does this even mean?” Which, tbh, simply saying a movie looks like an MCU movie is vague. Now, if he said, “Wicked looks like it takes place in the void in an MCU project” that would’ve made more sense.
The characters that aren't the two leads on the poster are woefully underwritten in the musical as well, really my only complaint I can recall walking out of an evening I quite enjoyed is "I don't know why the talking animals were jews or maybe gays? Along with a side-plot of I guess even wheelchair people can be bad, which was not on my bingo card." The core story it tells is good, but the rest could use a re-write.
@@BrownsBacker Well you are a really charismatic person that is going to bring a lot of people around to your point of view with your decisive criticism and analysis. Yay!
I watched wicked, i like it, but i found some criticism he explained in the video The performances are good, i liked ariana's performance, although i didn't feel an oscar worthy performance considering some of the reactions on twitter, as someone who watched the original wicked adaptation,again she's a gifted singer but i felt like she was imitating Kristin Chenoweth's performance
Lots of Actresses have potrayed Glimda a certain type of way It's simply how the character was conceived It is what it is She isn't playing a new character It's a character who has been essentially fully realized There isn't room to experiment with characters like that
I so appreciate this honest take, dude! 👏 I felt a bit more disconnected from the movie than most at my promo screening, too. I did like it a biiiit more than you, but I will say: I agree with ya that some characters fell completely flat. Not sure this needed to be two parts, either.
I think it did need two parts because of the tonal shift between the first and second half The second half takes place during the same timeline as the wizard of Oz Doing all of that in one film would have felt like too much I think this adaptation makes even more sense to split than Dune That refers act one like a prequel There are also too many characters and plot that really come to a head in Act Two Nessarose being one I don't think the developments in 2 would work in one movie They would feel too rushed Some fans of the play have complained about Elphaba and Fiyero being rushed and not really feeling that development it kind of just happens
Question: did you see this movie in 3d? Because i did the first time, and was not happy with it. But then i saw it not in 3D, and i was stunned at how much better the visuals work. I thought it was awful, now i would vote for it for best picture. Lol. Beware 3D!!!!!
You're not wrong, but MCU has been the biggest influence on modern movies for good reason. It's the bad storytelling that people object to. To complain about color saturation or less than optimal lighting when you have a powerful story that resonates and two phenomenal (not in the superlative) performances your critique pales in comparison.
as someone who is a huge fan of the musical i am sorry to tell you that i don’t think part 2 is coming to save the day… wicked is notorious for having a significantly weaker second act to a phenomenal act 1 both musically and plot wise that it’s actually so ridiculous that they decided to split them up
I haven’t seen the movie yet so I might come back and give a different opinion. But from the trailers and the visuals I was hoping this movie would flop. Then after seeing ‘behind the scenes’ clips of the production I got pissed at the vfx/cgi/colouring/compositing team because they essentially fucked up their end of the work and most people won’t bother coming out to see great performances in a sea of disgusting visuals.
the BTS footage shouldn't be your resource for judging the final product. The majority of people who have seen the movie (which is what you should be judging) , don't have the same complaints.
It's a very colourful movie 😂 I don't get this criticism at all The movie has been approved by fan of the musical and that's ultimately means it's not been butchered
Im a huge fan of the musical and I disliked the movie. The colors were muted, the movie in general was way too grey. Overall the visuals were super bland @@shippendales8543
Jon.. long time fan here.. always defended your stance on Babylon but I think you've overly centered your review on the visuals which aren't that bad.. the movie was phenomenal and a lot of the shots are quite frankly amazingly done and expertly crafted.. with a searingly relevant story that is fully realised in the lead performances and supporting cast.. one of the best movies of the year and THE best movie musical since 2002's Chicago..
I stand by you brother!! Mental health is important. I am actually choosing to stay away from Wicked for mental health reasons. I suffered a life altering panic attack when I saw the Broadway show and the two days after were the worst of my entire life.
Being that everyone is going completely bonkers for this movie, don't get me wrong - I'm one of them, it's refreshing to know not everyone is falling in lock-step.
Such a dumb comment. The reality is that everyone has differing opinion, both positive and negative, that are valid 95% of the time. Shouldnt be a shocker to anyone.
Its made by the guy who did Crazy Rich Asians. The mediocre movie that was overblown with hype. Not shocked Wicked has overblown hype. Edit: saw wicked. Loved it! Amazing movie! Still weirdly flat set with very awful Jeff Goldblum performance. I wish it was 35mm with the classic technicolor. Oddly thats the sad consequ3nces of filming digitally as everything looks grey or uninspired on digital. 35mm still captures that awe and wonder and COLOR that was missing. Bummer too as the set design and costume design is awe inspiring! I blame Universal for the constant over CGI-ing of the sets for its flatness too. You can tell it was MCU'd...wish the coloring of the film matched everything else, and wish Jeff Goldblum (a once good actor) was replaced as he did take me out of the movie. That said this is leagues better than that bland af Crazy Rich Asians movie! This is the movie that deserves the hype Crazy Rich Asians got as Wicked is an actual movie...thats actually good.😊
@@RodneyDollar dang, bro you got me. just cause you like your formulaic rom com =/= me not seeing it. It's a mediocre rom com. Fun movie....but mediocre. Never should've been nominated tho. It only got hype cause of Hollywood's obsession with identity poltics.
Hey Jonathan! I know you said you won’t read comments, but just wanted to say I hope your back is feeling better and wanted to thank you for sitting through an almost 3 hour movie that it doesn’t sound like you completely vibed with. We appreciate you and hope your mental and physical health remain good through the holidays.
After watching the movie.. I can understand the complaint about the visuals but not much else, it’s such a nit picky thing. Also your title is incredibly click baity.
Maybe I wasn't critical enough, or maybe you were overly critical, but I enjoyed it thoroughly...beyond my meager expectations. I didn't expect Ariana Grande to be delightful and hit notes I didn't expect her to. I didn't expect a 2 1/2 hr version of a first act of a stage musical that is half that to be as good as it is. It is a movie. It is entertaining. The talent is good. I don't find the visuals to be a dull as you do, although there were a few moments I agree...and to expect the song that is supposed to be the crescendo of the movie NOT to be lengthened with action is silly...yeah, the movie isn't the musical, but the movie IS the best musical of the past decade...better than West Side Story (not the original masterpiece), La La Land, etc...ok, I liked Tick, Tick, Boom better, but for traditional stage musical adaptations, this is great! I DID applaud and had tears in my eyes at the end...it wasn't a secret it's a 2 parter, so to make us wait for that note at the end of Defying Gravity was a choice that kept us on the edge of our seats...yes, for Wicked fans. It's played on Broadway and around the world for over 20 years, so there are a shitload of Wicked fans who want to watch this and will love it. Michele Yeoh and Jeff Goldblum can't sing and are miscast, but they are names and it is a movie, so get over it. Wicked is worth the watch and will excite more than you expect.
Haven’t watched the Broadway show and had a lot of doubts going in but was pleasantly surprised. Loved this movie. As for your droning on and on and on about the color grading, I’d rather have this then Oz the Great and Powerful with its sickening use of color. Not sure why this video popped up on my feed unfortunately. Trying to pass criticism as legitimate and humorous when it’s way too far from being both. Such a debbie downer.
Yall are complaining too much about lighting... it was okay, it was not bad like some of yall make it look. The movie on a whole is definitely spectacular coz i was focusing more on the plot and singing and acting than the visuals solely.
thinking you have to defend your opinion is so beta lmao when he said don't get mad at him for his view on the movie it's giving when Trump supporters begged their family to still talk to them after the election 🤣🤣🤡
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Rest in peace brother it was nice knowing you
Bro is about to get deep fried in these comments
I mean not shit. This is completely off to everything thata being said.
GOD, I can't believe you hate musicals and the color green. Reported.
It was a nice run, y'all. RIP to this man.
Modern dark lighting, flat shots, and faded color grading is a plague on blockbusters
couldn't agree more, glad that the criitics don't seem to be reporting that as a problem.
Need to report that I THOUGHT this was a problem for wicked when I first saw it in 3D, but seeing it again not in 3D I think the visuals are often quite stunning. So I wonder if there is a disconnect between 3D showings and non 3D showings. Just a theory.
Thanks film drunk - you just gave me space for another you tuber - try to find some joy bro - the movie is wonderful - but I guess your sarcastic ass can’t see that - oh fyi - maybe time to get some better lighting, equipment so you don’t look like you do the channel in a mop/broom closet would be nice .. adios
What is it that’s causing movies to look like that? Also, what are ”flat shots”, exactly?
Thank Christopher Nolan
You're amazing at how you structure your videos and set the tone for the audience. I like how aware you are of those things. Great video man!
Damn!!! Slamming Wicked AND MCU at the same time. I love how Film Drunk doesn’t give af. It was nice knowing him.
To be fair, talking bad about the mcu feels so unoriginal nowadays. Especially after how Feige is handling it much better for next year. But I’m glad he’s honest.
@@Dorian39 handling it? Be serious
@@nalday2534 Daredevil, Thunderbolts, Brave New World, Fantastic Four...I think they are handling it good for next year.
@Dorian39 Daredevil looks atrocious compared to the original show. Thunderbolts looks generic. Brave New World looks embarrassing. Feige is a hack and anyone who thinks otherwise is gullible
@@nalday2534 Tell that to Deadpool and Wolverine making a billion. Daredevil has hype and Thunderbolts looks good. I think you’re just being hateful.
You summed up my thoughts about the trailers and the visuals. It's like they had all the pieces to make it so vibrant and visually colorful and they fumbled it with the stupid grey filter, making it look boring or like something was missing.
"Emilia Perez is a Mess"
That's pretty ballsy to put that in the title
"WICKED: THE MCUification.."
Yeah, this channel isn't gonna make it to Thanksgiving
before you hate, look at 9:13 he praises ariana grande!!!
A movie with bad visuals is like a book with bad writing. A movie is supposed to be pleasing to watch, a book is supposed to be pleasing to read.
Great commet. I'll keep it with your permission.
Its true but there are good movies that are not appealing, in the same way are books that are badly written but have great story (fondation, dune, a lot of mistery novels)
What an insanely dense way of looking at film.
@@calebisdisposable everyone has their own look at film, and I’m a sucker for good cinematography, so that’s what’s important to me.🤷♂️
True. This movie is not that though. It has some bad visuals, and some harsh lighting, but it also has amazing visuals and some really interesting choreography and editing that really bring the musical numbers to life. Saying it relies solely on the performers is just plain ignorant and needlessly radical.
I trust you above most movie reviewers. I appreciate your lack of glazing just for glazing sakes. Great review! When are we getting another live?
I agree, the lighting really distracts the visionary component and I wished it carried a bit of the technicolor of the 1939 film. It was missing that lighting but I really think the performances and some of the songs are great, I just wished the lighting is enhanced. Great vid and have a good week 👍
I love your fearless critique of this movie! You GO Film Drunk!!! Be Fearless and Daring on what you your honest take is and do not sell out to the pressure from the herd.
9:12 ariana grande stans click here
Hopefully someone releases a fan-made version that is color graded properly with higher saturation.
9:12 for Ariana grande glazers
My Oscar race villain just emerged
10000% agree! Really great review
Love your honesty, never change
bro is getting grilled in the letterboxd comments
Because Wicked fans are insufferable
Oh no a different opinion lol
Not really. Mostly comments like, “What does this even mean?” Which, tbh, simply saying a movie looks like an MCU movie is vague.
Now, if he said, “Wicked looks like it takes place in the void in an MCU project” that would’ve made more sense.
Are you going to make an update Video on your Oscar Predictions from August?
The characters that aren't the two leads on the poster are woefully underwritten in the musical as well, really my only complaint I can recall walking out of an evening I quite enjoyed is "I don't know why the talking animals were jews or maybe gays? Along with a side-plot of I guess even wheelchair people can be bad, which was not on my bingo card." The core story it tells is good, but the rest could use a re-write.
Maybe it's you and the fact you have never read anything after grade school.
The rest is not meant to be interpreted that way. You can, of course. But a rewrite isn’t necessary.
@@BrownsBacker Well you are a really charismatic person that is going to bring a lot of people around to your point of view with your decisive criticism and analysis. Yay!
WICKED IS JUST OKAY. NOTHING SPECTACULAR LIKE WTF GUYS
I watched wicked, i like it, but i found some criticism he explained in the video
The performances are good, i liked ariana's performance, although i didn't feel an oscar worthy performance considering some of the reactions on twitter, as someone who watched the original wicked adaptation,again she's a gifted singer but i felt like she was imitating Kristin Chenoweth's performance
Lots of Actresses have potrayed Glimda a certain type of way
It's simply how the character was conceived
It is what it is
She isn't playing a new character
It's a character who has been essentially fully realized
There isn't room to experiment with characters like that
She isn't imitating Kristin. That's how the character is.
The Film Drunk Battalion!! We rise at dawn!!! ⚔
I so appreciate this honest take, dude! 👏 I felt a bit more disconnected from the movie than most at my promo screening, too. I did like it a biiiit more than you, but I will say: I agree with ya that some characters fell completely flat. Not sure this needed to be two parts, either.
I think it did need two parts because of the tonal shift between the first and second half
The second half takes place during the same timeline as the wizard of Oz
Doing all of that in one film would have felt like too much
I think this adaptation makes even more sense to split than Dune
That refers act one like a prequel
There are also too many characters and plot that really come to a head in Act Two
Nessarose being one
I don't think the developments in 2 would work in one movie
They would feel too rushed
Some fans of the play have complained about Elphaba and Fiyero being rushed and not really feeling that development it kind of just happens
Rest in Peace💔
Wait... Your name is Jonathan F. Drunk?!
Question: did you see this movie in 3d? Because i did the first time, and was not happy with it. But then i saw it not in 3D, and i was stunned at how much better the visuals work. I thought it was awful, now i would vote for it for best picture. Lol. Beware 3D!!!!!
I'd give it 3 and I hate musicals lol I'm surprised I was invested at all
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"It was the nine circles of hell" Nerdrotic.
You're not wrong, but MCU has been the biggest influence on modern movies for good reason. It's the bad storytelling that people object to. To complain about color saturation or less than optimal lighting when you have a powerful story that resonates and two phenomenal (not in the superlative) performances your critique pales in comparison.
yo wheres your oscar predictions?? chop chop
as someone who is a huge fan of the musical i am sorry to tell you that i don’t think part 2 is coming to save the day… wicked is notorious for having a significantly weaker second act to a phenomenal act 1 both musically and plot wise that it’s actually so ridiculous that they decided to split them up
I'll be bringing orchids to your service, my brother.
honestly the only thing “wrong” with the movie is the color grading. the pacing was done so so so well and i can’t lie i loved this movie.
I haven’t seen the movie yet so I might come back and give a different opinion. But from the trailers and the visuals I was hoping this movie would flop. Then after seeing ‘behind the scenes’ clips of the production I got pissed at the vfx/cgi/colouring/compositing team because they essentially fucked up their end of the work and most people won’t bother coming out to see great performances in a sea of disgusting visuals.
the BTS footage shouldn't be your resource for judging the final product. The majority of people who have seen the movie (which is what you should be judging) , don't have the same complaints.
RIP
The trailers LOOKED awful, visually! Please bring color and contrast back!!! 😭😭😭
It's a very colourful movie 😂
I don't get this criticism at all
The movie has been approved by fan of the musical and that's ultimately means it's not been butchered
Im a huge fan of the musical and I disliked the movie. The colors were muted, the movie in general was way too grey. Overall the visuals were super bland @@shippendales8543
Why were people calling this a masterpiece, it's no masterpiece
Sometimes we look so hard to find fault, we forget that movies are meant to just be enjoyed for what they are, not what you want them to be.
So well said
What's up with him and Wonka?
I’m convinced this guy watched the movie with sunglasses on and then proceeded to get mad about muddy and grey colours. This dude is simply blind.
I hope you’re feeling better!
The movie was okay
Why are y'all so scared of arianators?? We're not swifties, we know how to behave lol
The book is better
you had a good run...
Jon.. long time fan here.. always defended your stance on Babylon but I think you've overly centered your review on the visuals which aren't that bad.. the movie was phenomenal and a lot of the shots are quite frankly amazingly done and expertly crafted.. with a searingly relevant story that is fully realised in the lead performances and supporting cast.. one of the best movies of the year and THE best movie musical since 2002's Chicago..
I’m dating film drunk’s mom
movie is not good
Thank you for your service 🫡🫡🫡
I stand by you brother!! Mental health is important. I am actually choosing to stay away from Wicked for mental health reasons. I suffered a life altering panic attack when I saw the Broadway show and the two days after were the worst of my entire life.
Good review
Being that everyone is going completely bonkers for this movie, don't get me wrong - I'm one of them, it's refreshing to know not everyone is falling in lock-step.
Such a dumb comment. The reality is that everyone has differing opinion, both positive and negative, that are valid 95% of the time. Shouldnt be a shocker to anyone.
The conclusion: Wicked is NOT cinema.
I’m also in the minority lol it’s a good movie but it’s no masterpiece. Spielberg’s west side story is excellent. Wicked is just fine.
I’m more excited to see it now
And it was a hit!!! omg
Its funny how off this review is comapred to most reaction lol
Its made by the guy who did Crazy Rich Asians. The mediocre movie that was overblown with hype. Not shocked Wicked has overblown hype.
Edit: saw wicked. Loved it! Amazing movie! Still weirdly flat set with very awful Jeff Goldblum performance. I wish it was 35mm with the classic technicolor. Oddly thats the sad consequ3nces of filming digitally as everything looks grey or uninspired on digital. 35mm still captures that awe and wonder and COLOR that was missing. Bummer too as the set design and costume design is awe inspiring! I blame Universal for the constant over CGI-ing of the sets for its flatness too. You can tell it was MCU'd...wish the coloring of the film matched everything else, and wish Jeff Goldblum (a once good actor) was replaced as he did take me out of the movie.
That said this is leagues better than that bland af Crazy Rich Asians movie! This is the movie that deserves the hype Crazy Rich Asians got as Wicked is an actual movie...thats actually good.😊
@@TheWrestlingful yet you never even seen crazy rich Asians
@@RodneyDollar dang, bro you got me.
just cause you like your formulaic rom com =/= me not seeing it.
It's a mediocre rom com. Fun movie....but mediocre. Never should've been nominated tho. It only got hype cause of Hollywood's obsession with identity poltics.
Yes. Saw the trailer for Love and this exactly what it is.
I saw the wicked musical. This is ass
Pliz let them cook you up ❤❤❤
When you said “Movies… we need to get this in… brrr… UH” bro I felt that
Hey Jonathan! I know you said you won’t read comments, but just wanted to say I hope your back is feeling better and wanted to thank you for sitting through an almost 3 hour movie that it doesn’t sound like you completely vibed with. We appreciate you and hope your mental and physical health remain good through the holidays.
so there this doo doo review
Finally someone willing to speak the truth!!
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@@alonbrodsky9773like your face
After watching the movie.. I can understand the complaint about the visuals but not much else, it’s such a nit picky thing. Also your title is incredibly click baity.
After seeing this movie, I really don't see the "MCUification" you're talking about besides some of the cinematography.
What did you think of Steven Spielberg's West Side Story?
Crying about a beautifully shot movie bc it’s supposed to be in the real world is dumb, grow up it’s dark and muggy out here
Maybe I wasn't critical enough, or maybe you were overly critical, but I enjoyed it thoroughly...beyond my meager expectations. I didn't expect Ariana Grande to be delightful and hit notes I didn't expect her to. I didn't expect a 2 1/2 hr version of a first act of a stage musical that is half that to be as good as it is. It is a movie. It is entertaining. The talent is good. I don't find the visuals to be a dull as you do, although there were a few moments I agree...and to expect the song that is supposed to be the crescendo of the movie NOT to be lengthened with action is silly...yeah, the movie isn't the musical, but the movie IS the best musical of the past decade...better than West Side Story (not the original masterpiece), La La Land, etc...ok, I liked Tick, Tick, Boom better, but for traditional stage musical adaptations, this is great! I DID applaud and had tears in my eyes at the end...it wasn't a secret it's a 2 parter, so to make us wait for that note at the end of Defying Gravity was a choice that kept us on the edge of our seats...yes, for Wicked fans. It's played on Broadway and around the world for over 20 years, so there are a shitload of Wicked fans who want to watch this and will love it. Michele Yeoh and Jeff Goldblum can't sing and are miscast, but they are names and it is a movie, so get over it. Wicked is worth the watch and will excite more than you expect.
Love it when film dudes think anyone other than them care about "grey" or "flat" lighting
Film fans want good lighting? Shocking
This gotta be satire😂
it’s truly okay to be wrong, you just have to know that you are indeed wrong
womp womp
Uhh nope
It's okay to have wrong opinions
Not too late to delete this video
Immediately disliked
Haven’t watched the Broadway show and had a lot of doubts going in but was pleasantly surprised. Loved this movie. As for your droning on and on and on about the color grading, I’d rather have this then Oz the Great and Powerful with its sickening use of color. Not sure why this video popped up on my feed unfortunately. Trying to pass criticism as legitimate and humorous when it’s way too far from being both. Such a debbie downer.
the biggest film of the year ......FACT.
Shove it
Yall are complaining too much about lighting... it was okay, it was not bad like some of yall make it look. The movie on a whole is definitely spectacular coz i was focusing more on the plot and singing and acting than the visuals solely.
thinking you have to defend your opinion is so beta lmao when he said don't get mad at him for his view on the movie it's giving when Trump supporters begged their family to still talk to them after the election 🤣🤣🤡
I you use the term beta unironically,you need to touch grass