A Disney Villains Retrospective, Part 26: Duke Igthorn (and Other TV Villains)

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  • @ColinLooksBack
    @ColinLooksBack  Рік тому +87

    5:16 Before any English majors correct me, I'll do it myself. I described this as a "My Fair Lady" pastiche, but calling it a "Pygmalion" pastiche would be more accurate.

    • @maciekur
      @maciekur Рік тому +19

      Two things you missed: Lady Bane made a cameo in credits of "Chip and Dale" movie year ago. Also, there was a leaked animatic for the orginal Gummi bears pilot on youtubue years ago that is line for line the same... exept Toudy was a human in it and is Igtorns short taylor

    • @TravisWillden-b2m
      @TravisWillden-b2m Рік тому +1

      @@maciekur excuse me I hate to bother you but I said happy holidays to Colin LooksBack my friend not you and btw Colin LooksBack is my friend you know

    • @maciekur
      @maciekur Рік тому

      @@TravisWillden-b2m I don't think I understand you

    • @mupty
      @mupty Рік тому +2

      Will you be doing more "Many Christmas Carols" this month?

    • @TooneyBird2468
      @TooneyBird2468 Рік тому +1

      Could you make a script to screen episode for Chicken Run?
      Since the sequel is coming later this month.

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion78 Рік тому +131

    Michael Eisner: My kids like gummy bears, make a show.
    That one writer: My time has come

    • @yourpalal4596
      @yourpalal4596 Рік тому +8

      Michael & Patricia Silversher: (nodding eagerly)

  • @alexandersturnn4530
    @alexandersturnn4530 Рік тому +92

    I always liked that Igthorn actually became MORE competent and threatening as the show went on, rather then the opposite as was the Norm in animated shows back then.

    • @beastwarsFTW
      @beastwarsFTW Рік тому +15

      Ironically the ogres became less of a threat, basically it seemed like Igthorn tricked the orgres at first but now they actually need him to lead them.

  • @IgoSplashman
    @IgoSplashman Рік тому +39

    Igthorn might be a bumbling egomaniac, but he can also be a serious physical threat.
    He almost tore Gruffy's robot knight armor to shreds with his sword.

  • @cataquackwarlord5389
    @cataquackwarlord5389 Рік тому +21

    I kind of wonder if Lady Bane's castle actually used to belong to the Gummi Bears. Assuming she was around when most of them were chased out, she may have seized the castle in the process, and that's where she obtained her magical powers and items.

  • @SpedeVesku
    @SpedeVesku Рік тому +67

    Igthorn and Toadie are basically middle age fantasy version of Mr. Burns and Smithers

    • @Dimensioneer88
      @Dimensioneer88 Рік тому +15

      I see more of Captain Hook and Smee in them.

    • @battybuddy
      @battybuddy Рік тому +4

      Nah, Smithers doesn’t get thrown to the hounds for saying the right thing at the wrong time.

    • @SpedeVesku
      @SpedeVesku Рік тому +3

      @@Dimensioneer88 I see what you mean and agree that probably being the inspiration for the show's writing team, but you gotta admit that where's Smee seems to merely admire Hook, there's some real subtext (whenever intentional or not) with the amount of love and admiration Toadie shows to Igthorn.

  • @jaggerguth4391
    @jaggerguth4391 Рік тому +19

    For the One-off Villains in Gumni-Bears, There were a trio of villainous French chefs who Creates Counterfeit Coins out of Chocolate as part of a Plot to Swindle Dunyem on Tax Day. Another was "The Sinister Sculptor", a Talentless artist who stole Magic Powder Capable of turning Anything into Stone and Sells them as Art.

    • @MisterWin
      @MisterWin Рік тому +6

      I always cite the episode where Gruffy meets Gusto after being shipwrecked on that volcanic island as one of my favorite television episodes.

    • @maurycyoseka1057
      @maurycyoseka1057 Рік тому +2

      My favorite out of all of them is the giant spider that was going to eat all the six Gummi Bears after being accidentally released.

  • @icysnow9459
    @icysnow9459 Рік тому +127

    I know Disney television animation shows have been covered before, but this is the first episode covering original tv villains so it should be said here. It’s really funny how this department of Disney with less of a budget that started off selling toys would go on to create villains that were arguably just as iconic as the theatrical villains. And later on, would become the only place in Disney for good villains during the 2010’s.

    • @hellboundchaoscommand7567
      @hellboundchaoscommand7567 Рік тому +12

      I THINK I KNOW A GUY! - Best of all Disney villains

    • @arcadeclawqueen90
      @arcadeclawqueen90 Рік тому +3

      Yeah like the tangled the series villains

    • @MrKaiju-sr8wu
      @MrKaiju-sr8wu Рік тому +8

      Mother Gothel, King Candy and Tamatoa are exceptions to that

    • @austinreed7343
      @austinreed7343 Рік тому +2

      @@MrKaiju-sr8wu Plus a good chunk of the MCU villains (not all of them) and a handful of Star Wars ones.

    • @MrKaiju-sr8wu
      @MrKaiju-sr8wu Рік тому +11

      @@austinreed7343 I don't count those as *Disney* villains personally, just villains from IPs which Disney happens to own. It's only their original animated stuff I'm talking about, since that's what Collin is gonna be talking about in these videos.

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. Рік тому +32

    I just wanna thank the wonderful voices of Micheal Rye, who voices King Gregor, his nemesis Duke Igthorn and his heroic brother; but also June Forray! She not only voiced Grammie Gummi and others, she got ger old pal Bullwinkle, Bill Scott as Gruffi Gummi! He also voices Sir Tuxfurt, and the 1st Toadwart!❤😂

    • @motxmod
      @motxmod Рік тому +2

      Bill Scott also voiced Moosel from The Wuzzles.

    • @LowellLucasJr.
      @LowellLucasJr. Рік тому +1

      ​@@motxmodnot to.mention Flizzard was played by Brian Cummings...aka Hollywood in 2 Stupid Dogs( he's the "Isn't that cute? BUT ITS WRONG!!" guy) Doofus in Ducktales and Dr. Mindbender in GIJoe!❤ I've met him at plenty of cons and he's a really cool dude and a great friend

    • @willisjackson7029
      @willisjackson7029 Рік тому +3

      @@LowellLucasJr. Don’t forget that Brian Cummings was also the voice of Bumble-Lion on the Wuzzles as well.

  • @Dimensioneer88
    @Dimensioneer88 Рік тому +34

    Duke Igthorn is basically a Medieval Captain Hook. I also heard someone call him Human Skeletor.

    • @willisjackson7029
      @willisjackson7029 Рік тому +6

      Funny, my friend and I were just making that as a little joke a few hours ago just before I watched this video. Before Skeletor was Skeletor he was Keldor, but before he was Keldor he was Duke Igthorn.😅

    • @hordakprime6172
      @hordakprime6172 8 місяців тому

      I was thinking about how a good progression for him would be him becoming like Skeletor lol.

    • @maurycyoseka1057
      @maurycyoseka1057 7 місяців тому +2

      Crocosaur Rex =
      Duke Igthorn = Captain Hook
      David Xanathos = Amos Slade
      Demona =
      Miss Finster = Lady Tremaine
      Dr. Drakken =
      Chuckles the Silly Piggy = Mad Madam Mim
      Gaspar =
      Skeleton King = Horned King
      Huntsman = Man
      Dark Dragon = Charnabog
      Dr. Doofenshmirtz =
      Bill Cipher = Hades
      The Sorcerer =
      Hannibal McFist =
      Cedric =
      Prisma =
      Vor =
      Lord Hater =
      Lord Dominator = Maleficent
      Hildie Gloom = Queen Grimhilda
      Rippen =
      Ludo = Prince John
      Toffee =
      Meteora =
      Shuriki =
      Ash Malvago =
      Vuli, Yolo, Hatz and Cahu =
      Chip Whistler = Bill Sykes
      King Andrius =
      King Aldrich = King Renard
      The Core/Darcy = Maestro Forte
      Emperor Philip = Horned King, Scar and Frollo
      Jinx =
      Molecule Man =

  • @asharmstrong248
    @asharmstrong248 Рік тому +53

    It’s great to hear about the unsung villains from this company. Obviously Igthorn can’t quite live up to Bill Cipher, Belos, Flintheart Glomgold, or even Doofenshmirtz, but it’s important to learn about him, since he paved the way for them.

    • @sarafontanini7051
      @sarafontanini7051 Рік тому +6

      man the cartoons have been great for disney villains, unlike the movies thus far

    • @christianali5431
      @christianali5431 Рік тому +2

      ​@@sarafontanini7051maybe that's the answer. Just make TV shows from now on.😊

    • @maurycyoseka1057
      @maurycyoseka1057 Рік тому

      I think that Disney Television Animation villains are going to be new Disney villains.

    • @Santoryu90
      @Santoryu90 8 місяців тому

      @@christianali5431I don’t think that’s the answer

  • @falcoskywolf
    @falcoskywolf 11 місяців тому +3

    I catch not only strong influences of CareBears in Gummy Bears, but also the animated Ewoks series, which was a much more cutesy take on them than the Star Wars films and came out in that same timeframe.

  • @zemox2534
    @zemox2534 Рік тому +25

    The relationship between Duke and Toadie reminds me of Captain Hook and Mr. Smee. Duke Igthorn may view Toadie as his only true friend, but he won't admit it.

  • @DarkAngel459
    @DarkAngel459 Рік тому +10

    I remember 'The Gummi Bears' very fondly, and it has one of the best theme tunes of any cartoon show.

  • @pap64
    @pap64 Рік тому +8

    Even if "The Wuzzles" was rather run of the mill, I loved the heck out of it, and found it fascinating how everything is a mix of two things right down to the weather itself. It's pretty creative world building that to me made it stand out from everything else at the time (I mean I love the Care Bears, but their world is essentially heaven in a cloud world). Although I always mentioned that Croc is weird in that he too is a mix but still remained an alligator/crocodile in terms of look. Also am I the only one that thinks his VA tried to do a Pat Burtram/Sheriff of Nothinham imitation due to the twang in his voice? That always amused me

  • @maddiekoester7785
    @maddiekoester7785 Рік тому +11

    Now that you’ve covered the beginning of the Disney Afternoon, I just need a Disney Villains Retrospective on DuckTales and Darkwing!!

  • @DarkAngel459
    @DarkAngel459 Рік тому +4

    I was happy to see Colin compare 'The Gummi Bears' Toadwort to Creeper from 'The Black Cauldron,' as I made that comparison in the comment section of that film's video. Colin may have already made that connection himself, but it's nice to hear that I'm not alone.

  • @Man-A-T
    @Man-A-T Рік тому +29

    I definitely think Disney was cribbing some ideas from The Smurfs for Gummi Bears. Which might be why their primary antagonist is more of a physical villain and they kept their magical antagonist in the back pocket. I could easily see a criticism at the time for Lady Bane being "She's girl Gargamel" if she were the primary antagonist.

    • @MisterWin
      @MisterWin Рік тому +5

      💯
      I love the Eastern European medieval forest settings for both these shows, so I couldn’t pick a favorite. Easily in my top ten childhood cartoons.

    • @christianali5431
      @christianali5431 Рік тому +1

      So they didn't really Rip The Smurfs off, did they?

    • @christianali5431
      @christianali5431 Рік тому +1

      The Smurfs don’t know there way around a Gummy Berry Chemlab like the Bears do.

  • @sammyt7981
    @sammyt7981 Рік тому +3

    2:15 Crock, Flizzard, and Brat
    8:53 Duke Igthorn
    12:56 Toadwart/Toadie
    16:36 The Ogres
    19:10 Lady Bane
    21:41 Jackal Guards
    22:54 The Trolls
    25:24 The Carpies
    32:05 JJ Wagstaff

  • @kylemorello4787
    @kylemorello4787 Рік тому +4

    Seeing as how Disney TV Animation's 40th birthday is this year, I've been picturing 2 AMVs to honor it:
    1. Remember when Disney's Sing Along Songs did a series dedicated to the Disney princesses? I'm picturing a version of the music video If You Can Dream, except it's about the heroines from their TV shows, like Eliza Maza Luz Noceda, Kim Possible, Anne Boonchuy, Elena, etc. Rules would be that they have to be original heroines, so no Rapunzels, Ariels, or Lilos.
    2. Remember the direct to video film Once Upon a Halloween? It's basically a clip show that pays tribute to Disney villains. It had five different montages. The first one was about their most iconic and scariest moments, the second one was about evil laughs, the third one was about iconic poses, the fourth about henchman (set to an original song by Pat Carroll), and the last one is, of course, about their defeats. I was thinking about a version of all of thenwith Disney's TV villains, like Bill Cipher, Draken, Doofenshmirtz, Xanatos, Belos, etc. Again, no villains from film based shows, unless they're original, like Hamsterviel or Mozenrath. Shere Khan in Talespin would be an exception, since he's a different version of the character. Anyway, this retrospective could be helpful in finding what villains to use.

    • @maurycyoseka1057
      @maurycyoseka1057 10 місяців тому

      Now that i think of it, Disney Channel should now be included in the Disney parks.

    • @kylemorello4787
      @kylemorello4787 10 місяців тому +1

      @@maurycyoseka1057 YES!
      Well, they are in some respects. Paul Ruddish's Mickey Mouse show has a dark ride in Disney's Hollywood Studios. World Showcase has a scavenger hunt game that went from starting Kim Possible, to Perry the Platypus, to Scrooge McDuck. And there are a decent amount of meetable characters from television. But I too would prefer having more Disney show representation at the parks. There's so much missed potential. And it would be really fun to meet characters from Owl House, Star VS, Amphibia, Proud Family, Jake Long, Motor City, Wander Over Yonder, and Gravity Falls. And to bring back characters from Gargoyles, Talespin, Kim Possible, and Darkwing Duck.

    • @maurycyoseka1057
      @maurycyoseka1057 7 місяців тому +1

      Disney Channel characters should be included in Sorcerer's Apprentice Arena, Disney Mirrorverse, make Disney Infinity 4.0 and add them, Disney Dreamlight Valley and Disney Speedstorm.

    • @kylemorello4787
      @kylemorello4787 7 місяців тому

      @@maurycyoseka1057 Gargoyles, Chip and Dale, and DuckTales characters are included in Sorcerer's Arena. But, yes on everything else.

  • @noireisbest6786
    @noireisbest6786 Рік тому +8

    I loved Gummi Bears a lot, I didn't care as much about The Wuzzles. But my favorite movie is next, so I'm super excited!!
    Gargoyles will be a lot of fun to watch, holy crap. I recently watched all the canon episodes.

  • @futuregadgetlabmember5320
    @futuregadgetlabmember5320 Рік тому +5

    Watching Igthorn and Toadie always brings to mind Hook and Smee since they both have a similar dynamic.

  • @Borgdrohne13
    @Borgdrohne13 Рік тому +2

    12:18 to compromise your concerns and a decent backstory, I have 2 Ideas, what could happend:
    1. Igthorn was a young knight with an innocent look at chivalry and knighthood. He had a " Hero", someone, who he admired (perhaps the current king). But as the story goes on, he becomes disillusioned. That the job is more mundane and the hero stories are that: Only stories, nothing more. Perhaps with a king, who gives orders, that doesn't matched with his view of knighthood and chivalry. Of course Igthorn didn't saw the bigger picture and assumed things. He thought, he can do a better job and started a coup d'etat with the well known consequences.
    2. Igthorn and his brother Victor are both enlisted as knights.Both of them are great at their jobs, but Victor get's all the glory. Igthorn did his fair share of chivalry too, but it was never acknowledged and sometimes he got scolded, why he wasn't like his brother. We also see, that Igthorn was overambitious and think, that he can more. Sigmund never wanted the attention and wanted only doing his job as a knight, but could never tell Igthorn about it. Igthorn developed an inferiority complex, because the people looked down on him and his brother is (in his eyes) better than him (of course it's not true). That's why he wanted to proof to everyone (including himself) that he is better, by overthrowing the current monarch. He failed and was exiled for his crimes. Victor quit the knighthood, because he thought, it was his fault, that Igthorn lashes out. That he could prevented it, if he only talked to Igthorn, but at this point it was too late.
    Both version shows, that Igthorn wasn't a misunderstood good guy, who turned evil, but someone with a relatable backstory, who made the wrong decisions.
    But what do you think? Could it work? Are the stories decent or don't you like them? If so, why and what would you change? I'm very interested on your opinion.

  • @jackpearce367
    @jackpearce367 Рік тому +4

    The dark origin story line is gold. Passive aggressive Colin is best Colin

  • @Grim2
    @Grim2 Рік тому +2

    28:50 - His model is very much aged up version of the boy from "Reluctant Dragon".

  • @AnaxErik4ever
    @AnaxErik4ever Рік тому +3

    It's great to get a glimpse into early Disney TV series, the concepts and the characters as a whole, not just the villains. With the recent additions of a pretty decent villain from Wish (direct ripoff of Ursula's "So much for true love." line not withstanding); the Stage in Playful Land event in Twisted Wonderland (showcasing Gideon and Foul Fellow "gajinkas" as our main baddies, and the first event to prominently reference the Disney parks); and the recent showcase of The Black Cauldron in another mobile game, there will have to be another catch up episode required for this series. That is saying nothing of Malleus Draconia, direct inheritor to Maleficent's legacy in Twisted Wonderland.

  • @taallen334
    @taallen334 Рік тому +2

    If the Fluppy Dogs was greenlit it would have arguably been considered Disney's Sliders with talking pastel-colored dimension hopping puppies.

  • @brookerickettson4950
    @brookerickettson4950 Рік тому +1

    Oh man. The scene with the glowing crystal making a door....core memory unlocked! I think I saw this as a stand alone kids movie, never guessed it was intended to be a pilot, and the bipedal talking dogs, were like pound puppies. Like a inter dimensional pound puppy squad or their world was where all caroon talking dogs came from.
    It WAS pretty generic, but most programs for young kids were before they got old enough to really sell to ala other hasbro properties. You know, be kind to animals, don’t trust rich business moguls, etc.

  • @ciarangrainger2465
    @ciarangrainger2465 Рік тому +4

    So the Disney Afternoon began because the CEO really wanted a cartoon based on gummy sweets?

  • @SoulKingdomCreator
    @SoulKingdomCreator Рік тому +2

    Gummi Bears was a great show. I didn’t grow up in the era it was on air, but I watched it when I discovered it in college.
    I can’t wait for one of my favorite movies to be covered.

  • @ryancarless7921
    @ryancarless7921 Рік тому +1

    Love the video, I like how the villains felt like previous villains like the Evil Queen and etc.

  • @taiasoncole8148
    @taiasoncole8148 Рік тому +2

    This show really is underrated and deserves to be on the list of the Disney Afternoon's best. It is just so charming and has quite a bit of lore and continuity which was not common at the time or even decades after.

  • @sesamefan4049
    @sesamefan4049 Рік тому

    I for one praise the Wuzzles's creativity. It continues to inspire me to this day.

  • @joshhumphrey736
    @joshhumphrey736 Рік тому +3

    Can’t wait for the inevitable Gargoles episode. I mean, how many villains do you know who have a tv trope named after them?

  • @mikeburnette2190
    @mikeburnette2190 Рік тому +2

    Great Video, and happy holidays.
    I got to watch both the Wuzzles and Gummi Bears, and they were incredible.
    My main issue is how Igthorn was so compitent, but so comedic at the same time.
    Lady Bane is really what I like in a villain, since the main job of the villain is to constantly challenge the heroes, and I'm not saying Igthorn did that, but there was too much hilarity with him.
    R I. P To Bill Scott, Roger Carmel, and any other actor that passed away dfrom these shows.

  • @muppetsretrofan8873
    @muppetsretrofan8873 Рік тому +1

    This was an amazing video, Colin! Although I'm a 2000s person, my mom introduced me to various 80s Disney movies and shows, which is why both The Black Cauldron and Adventures Of The Gummi Bears are special to me. Wuzzles looked like a cute show, but I'm sad it only lasted 13 episodes. My favorite Wuzzle is BumbleLion for being part lion, my favorite big cat [thanks to The Lion King and the MGM Lion]. Back to Gummi Bears, Cavin and Taran look so similar that I could easily imagine them actually being related. Taran being a lost relative of Cavin could make for good story material. Speaking of Cavin, I was always annoyed by episodes where he got in trouble for things he didn't do/things that weren't his fault [Crimson Avenger and Up, Up And Away are the two biggest examples], it frustrated me so much to the point where I wish that Gregor and Tuxford WERE allowed by the showrunners to learn about the Gummis. Speaking of the Gummi Bears themselves, Zummi's my favorite, but admitedly biased on my part as he's voiced by Paul Winchell, who voiced my favorite Winnie The Pooh character Tigger, and my favorite fast food mascot 70s era Jack [Jack In The Box]. Sadly, there's only three 1970s era animated Jack In The Box Commercials and three 70s JITB comics on UA-cam, but I highly recommend checking them out, as Winchell did a wonderful job bringing the characters to life. I recommend starting out with the commercial simply titled Jack In The Box Animated Commercial 1970s and the first comic How A House Makes Noise.

  • @bartholomewthewise346
    @bartholomewthewise346 Рік тому +16

    The villains of gargoyles alone I feel are a great video subject! Truly the definition of villains who balance the line of ethics and evil.

    • @maurycyoseka1057
      @maurycyoseka1057 10 місяців тому

      I just can't wait for the Emperor Belos retrospective!

  • @moonstoneuniverse8516
    @moonstoneuniverse8516 Рік тому +2

    For the first time I didn’t know a Disney villain in Lady Bane and I love it!!!

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. Рік тому +6

    Wuzzles deserve some serious love. Glad they got their coverage here!❤ Thank you so much!

  • @maxordman4100
    @maxordman4100 11 місяців тому +2

    This is a true treat to see you dive into the history of some of the earliest tv villains from Disney! Gummy bears was an amazing show and I truly enjoyed listening to this fantastic retrospective! Fluppy dogs also sounds quite interesting. Too bad it wasn’t picked up for television. It’s nice to be following your channel again. I was badly sick for a long time and I had to take a break from UA-cam but now I’m back. Excellent job! I can’t wait to see more of your videos! I know that you will no doubt be covering the little mermaid very soon and it shall be one of your most amazing videos ever! I also am super excited to see you get to the Aladdin villains! Keep up the great work!

  • @NicklasNN
    @NicklasNN Рік тому +1

    I’m looking forward to the Great Mouse Detection, Mr. LooksBack!
    Your videos are awesome!

  • @animation1300
    @animation1300 Рік тому +18

    Next episode, we’re going to talk about The World’s Greatest Criminal Mind

  • @Sandlot1992
    @Sandlot1992 Рік тому +1

    I can't wait to see you talk about Ratigan next!

  • @RyanofAndor
    @RyanofAndor Рік тому +1

    It was the Gummi Bears that ignited my love of the fantasy genre and also medevil history. And it was a breath of fresh air as everything else was modern, or leaned heavily into science fiction.

  • @frogglen6350
    @frogglen6350 Рік тому +5

    Been subbed for a year. I like how you go into great detail about these somewhat forgotten animated characters

  • @Rae0814
    @Rae0814 8 місяців тому +3

    I feel like the Carpies’ episodes being so similar is because they had plans to do more with them, but couldn’t figure out how to use them without the Sunni plot point

  • @timothylyons1529
    @timothylyons1529 Рік тому +2

    can't wait for more retrospective you give all villains from both animated movies, special, shorts, and tv shows all equal piece of the cake please don't stop doing this

  • @TylerRakstis
    @TylerRakstis Рік тому +3

    First time we get on TV show originals. And it'll be the start of the Disney Rennisance by next year.

  • @saintfighteraqua
    @saintfighteraqua Рік тому +1

    While I did love Wuzzles as a kid (I even had a Bumble Lion figure), it was very much what you see is what you get.
    Gummi Bears, however, I was obsessed with them and I still feel like it's 100% watchable even today. The lore is fun and leaves me wanting more and unlike shows like Care Bears (which I also loved) it doesn't feel like it was written just for kids...it's like a Disney movie, it has something for both kids and adults.
    I'd love a reboot that kept the spirit of the original, or even a continuation with the same art style.
    Igthorn was one of my favorite villains back in the day.

  • @Zach-bo8bz
    @Zach-bo8bz 4 місяці тому

    A Dudley do-right reference? I love it! The Dudley Do-right who’s actually competent and the Snidely Whiplash is just misunderstood. It’s a perfect way to bring back one of the classics from Jay Warden’s era.

  • @andylloyd415
    @andylloyd415 Рік тому +1

    This video made an excellent surprise birthday gift. Thanks so much for cataloguing all these memorable bad guys, no matter how brief or minor, and take as much time as you need on your videos!

  • @verdragon5591
    @verdragon5591 Рік тому +9

    Does this mean a few episodes down the line I'm going to see David Xanatos pop up in one of these?

    • @maurycyoseka1057
      @maurycyoseka1057 10 місяців тому

      Not only him, but also Demona, Thailog, Macbeth, Fox, Wolf, Jackal and Hyena, Dingo, Proteus, Illuminati of all things, Labyrinth Clan, Owen Burnett/Puck, Dr. Anton Severius, Oberon and his children, Hakon, King Constantine III, Canmore Family and Gillecomgain.

  • @nicklundy9965
    @nicklundy9965 Рік тому +1

    Im just wondering was the Gummi Ship from Kingdom Hearts inspired by this show. Cause that always bugged me we never gotten the DTVA worlds. Like Duckburg, Cape Suzzette, or even 1994 New York City. Not even a Gummi Glen/QuickTunnel dark ride. I honestly would take that over The Princess and the Frog ride. (I love the movie, but I just need them to fine-tune the concept a bit more). Though something simple would be nice too.

  • @dandrelamay8273
    @dandrelamay8273 Рік тому +1

    As usual, its always nice seeing the lesser known villains get the same amount of detailed analysis as the big stars. Looking forward to seeing more tv series covered soon. And I can tell Ratigan's video is gonna be a good one.
    Ps: its been a while since you've talked about Muppets (the thing that introduced me to your content), but I'm curious: out of the three designs for classic Elmo's World, which is your favourite? While I've grown up with all three of them, I always liked the second one the best, due to the toon aesthetic fitting in with what the series wanted to be. The first design, looking back, feels empty and eerie, which is the last thing you'd wanna associate with a character like Elmo. And the thid, more cgi design, while slightly fast paces, is more dull than what came before.

  • @jonathanmartin9845
    @jonathanmartin9845 Рік тому +8

    If they rebooted Wuzzles, Gummi Bears, and Fluppy Dogs together as a single show, how much do you want to bet the series would end up a mishmash between Amphibia, Owl House, She-ra, and the 2017 Ducktales series?

    • @d-manthecaptain1382
      @d-manthecaptain1382 Рік тому +1

      I guess that would be what would happen if they decided to do that

    • @Glasshouse828
      @Glasshouse828 4 місяці тому

      Personally I’d prefer a Ducktales 2017 style remake of the new adventures of Winnie the Pooh also your idea definitely has promise

  • @Nonjola
    @Nonjola Рік тому +2

    Something I noticed about Gad and Zook is, that they both look visually a bit different from the other ogres. Gad is the only purple one, and Zook is the only one with green fur and orange hair.

  • @toonerman
    @toonerman Рік тому +5

    Nice Jon with this retrospective, as usual. And while I know we are still a few villains away from Urusla, can I help you out with some pieces of Little Mermaid media I found, for you to include in your Little Mermaid Retrospective?…
    PS: I first found out about your channel with your Script to Screen video of Casper. I agree with you on everything about that movie, and I am also a huge fan of Disney Villains, so this series has been very helpful with my knowledge on them!

  • @embermoto
    @embermoto Рік тому

    Ok had to look up Fluppy Dogs cause your summary of what happened sounded like A lot of a 20 minute episode, the pilot is an hour long which makes a lot more sense. The show looks cute and I am kind of said it wasn't picked up. Even though it was similar to Gummy Bears it could have talked about some different issues such as animal rights and conservation work. Really excited for the next episode, the Great Mouse Detective is one of my favorite Disney movies. I have read all the Basil of Baker Street books several times through, now there is an idea for an animated TV series.

  • @nicoflores9728
    @nicoflores9728 Рік тому +1

    Lady bane and igthors relationship remind of lord hater and lord dominanter. Never seen the gummi bear show but it seems like a direct influence to the dynamic

    • @nicholassims9837
      @nicholassims9837 Рік тому +3

      Yeah an incompetent male and a more competent female

  • @BenNelson-zl6lj
    @BenNelson-zl6lj 6 місяців тому +1

    32:47-32:54
    Indeed "never mind the green fur." It’s possible the public would think the dog's green fur is dyed rather than supernaturally green.

  • @kiwikenobi
    @kiwikenobi Рік тому

    Super interesting, as always! I hadn't heard of Fluppy Dogs before. And I'm so excited for the Ratigan video!

  • @JNT737
    @JNT737 Рік тому +1

    Blazing Dragons ran on toon disney and had a few good villains XD. I love your videos and retrospective on disney villains

  • @m.c.s1306
    @m.c.s1306 10 місяців тому +2

    3:52 he would fit right in at Disney

  • @WarioWareFan01010
    @WarioWareFan01010 Рік тому +32

    You HAVE to do Disney Jr. Villains retrospective as a spin-off.

    • @sarahsims6164
      @sarahsims6164 Рік тому +3

      Sofia the first would be a good candidate.

    • @timothylyons1529
      @timothylyons1529 Рік тому +1

      They covered after all jack and Neverland pirates Mickey Mouse clubhouse and roaster racers were covered

    • @Glasshouse828
      @Glasshouse828 4 місяці тому +1

      Who knows, he might include villains from original Disney Jr shows in this very retrospective, i would appreciate it if he were to mention the Snooties from PB&J Otter at least as bonus villains since Eduard is possibly my favorite antagonistic Disney character next to Mr. Onus from Treasure Planet (yeah I have weird tastes in characters) & that’s one of the Disney Jr/Playhouse Disney shows he’s most likely to have grown up with considering how old it is but I doubt he considers them villains so I’m not holding my breathe

  • @Gigautism
    @Gigautism Рік тому

    I loved this show as a kid. Had a few episodes on VHS that I watched often. Also managed to catch some reruns on TV as well

  • @Kerfufflefuf
    @Kerfufflefuf 7 місяців тому

    Thank you for making this video, I remember watching the pilot for Fluppy Dogs as a kid and I could never remember the name of the show. It would occassionaly pop into my head but with how little I remembered of the pilot I didn't think I would ever be able to figure out what the name of the show was.

  • @melasnexperience
    @melasnexperience Рік тому +1

    I did a review of Fluppy Dogs for a long-dead blog years ago, and I stand by my impression that I had back then - the pilot/special made a mistake by putting the most interesting concept for the series in the backstory instead of making it the plot. "Sliders with pastel dogs" is a more interesting concept than what the pilot set up, unless they were gonna use the Earth setting as a framing device. But that would have gotten old pretty quickly. Probably was a good idea to test the waters with the special like they did than just diving into a full series.

  • @TheHoboAuthor
    @TheHoboAuthor 8 місяців тому +1

    The wuzzles and the gummi bears both have great theme songs

  • @maurycyoseka1057
    @maurycyoseka1057 9 місяців тому +3

    With the Disney Televisions Animation series, you could say that it all started with a crocodile.

  • @CinnamonGrrlErin1
    @CinnamonGrrlErin1 Рік тому +10

    Gummi Bears is almost better than a show of its era should be and its too bad Disney has let it fade (although its not like they really care too much about their tv shows in general). That theme song is amazing too.

    • @zemox2534
      @zemox2534 Рік тому +5

      The cartoons of the Disney Afternoon deserves more respect and recognition

    • @slaughterhater
      @slaughterhater Рік тому +6

      I 💯% agree the Disney Afternoon characters need more respect and recognition!

    • @MisterWin
      @MisterWin Рік тому +8

      They incorporated a sliver of the Gummi Bears lore into the somewhat recent DuckTales reboot. I think because although it had a solid start that it was eventually cancelled is why you didn’t see more. I believe there was talk of a DarkwingDuck spinoff/reboot from that DT that was scrapped.

    • @OGPUEE
      @OGPUEE Рік тому +3

      Actually in Poland Gummi Bears are hugely popular to this day and practically everyone knows this show and the characters. Even one UA-camr focusing on Polish voice actors devoted a special episode to the actors playing Ightorn and Toadie - ua-cam.com/video/9owhFdVr4Wo/v-deo.html
      And many years as a Polish, I was a bit surprised that in US apparently Gummi Bears are largely forgotten, while in Poland there were countless reruns. Especially since other Disney Afternoons are still remembered.

    • @maurycyoseka1057
      @maurycyoseka1057 10 місяців тому

      ​@@OGPUEE Curiosity, I didn't remembered Gummi Bears a bit until I watched it at my grandma's.

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. Рік тому +6

    I myself am ecstatic to see Gummi Bears getting a villain retrospective! I absolutely love Duke Igthorne, Toadwart, and all the other wonderful villains in the series( Lets not forget Tress Mcneils Lady Bane/ Witch!❤)!!! Not only was this a series I grew up with, it's the one that feels deserves a lot more treatment as a beloved Disney classic! Plus, why doesn't Kingdom Hearts use the ogres as battle fodder? That would be perfect!😂

    • @mightyfilm
      @mightyfilm Рік тому +3

      I'm a big fan of Smurfs, their Eurocomics moreso than their cartoons. When it comes to Gummi Bears, however, out of all the cheap, lousy, tacky Smurf-a-likes at the time, Gummi Bears was the ONLY series I feel outclasses its inspiration.

    • @CinnamonGrrlErin1
      @CinnamonGrrlErin1 Рік тому +2

      I would pay good money to have an entire Gummi world in a Kingdom Hearts game. I mean, those ship parts have to come from somewhere, right? Maybe make that the mini-game world and let Pooh and friends take a break

    • @mightyfilm
      @mightyfilm Рік тому +2

      @@CinnamonGrrlErin1 Despite the fact Japan DID get a Gummi Bears dub (check the language selection if you have Disney+), KH has a tendency to ignore television shows. I know Scrooge pops up a couple times, but that's more of him being a Mickey and Co/Duck family character than Ducktales.

    • @LowellLucasJr.
      @LowellLucasJr. Рік тому +1

      @@mightyfilm that hurts me even more especially since Huey Dewey and Louie all wearing their signature DuckTales outfits

    • @mightyfilm
      @mightyfilm Рік тому +2

      @@LowellLucasJr. I think they just adopted those outfits for general Mickey and Co aesthetics. But they did famously get a Japanese dub (important as it's a Japanese gaming company), and a full plush line assortment of every character you can imagine. But by that logic, they should have the Rescue Ranger versions of Chip n' Dale. They got that one two. The actress that plays Luffy played Chip. Shame they only focus on the movies for these things.

  • @Rubberman202
    @Rubberman202 Рік тому +1

    I kind of read up on some of these shows a bit before watching this, but only a little. The Wuzzles was more of a warm-up for The Adventures of the Gummi Bears, which was a huge gambit for Disney since the quality of the animation was much higher than its contemporaries, specifically Hanna-Barbera and Filmation, both of whom use very, shall we say, "economical" animation methods to make their shows. It's fortunate that Disney itself is a massive company that can handle licensing fees better than the other two. Either way, Gummi Bears wound up being a huge success, and led the way to other incredibly popular and fondly remembered shows. I don't recall watching Gummi Bears as much as a kid, though I definitely did watch it. There were some fun concepts, and overall, I think the premise and set-up is quite good, especially for a cartoon that came out of the 80's that was literally just Michael Eisner going "I like Gummi Bears, here, make a show based off this candy". Duke Igthorn himself is a fun first villain in a long line of memorable Disney TV villains, I especially love how he manages to boss around the much bigger but also much dumber ogres to do his bidding. Again, I wish I could say more about him, but I didn't watch that much of it as a kid and I honestly haven't had the time to revisit the show on Disney+, so I don't have much to work off of. I don't think we'll be getting any more Gummi Bears stuff out of Disney anytime soon, since they apparently couldn't even use the name when they were referenced in the DuckTales reboot, which is a shame since there's a lot of potential here. At the very least, this show wound up being a good indicator for what kind of fun Disney animated shows would follow.
    As for The Wuzzles, I think I ended up watching every episode of the series when it aired on Toon Disney, which isn't saying much since there were only 13 episodes. It honestly only feels fitting that Disney's first TV show was a toy tie-in (this was the result of Ronald Reagan's presidency and "deregulation", but that's a discussion for another time), like many animated shows during the 80's, even if it was mostly in preparation for the Gummi Bears. For what it's worth, the premise is kind of fun, with a lot of silly word-play and wacky combinations of various things when it comes to the premises of a lot of episodes. It's typical "slice of life" stuff in the lives of these hybrid animal characters, quite different from the more adventurous Gummi Bears show would be. Crock feels a lot like if Pete were a reptile instead of a cat-like creature, big, fat, lazy, greedy, and always causing trouble, albeit usually on a smaller scale. Don't have much to say about Flizard and Brat, I guess every bad guy needs a goon or two to deal with and take their frustrations out on.
    Literally never heard of "Fluppy Dogs" until this video... although perhaps I've seen the the name pop up a few times hear and there whenever I looked into Disney TV Animation. Hearing the premise when compared to the toyline reminds me of how Care Bears were essentially cute fluffy stuffed animals who's main message was "hey, show you care" or whatever, yet when it came time to have a TV show based on them, even THEY had to have bad guys like Professor Coldheart and No Heart, as well as "weaponized" caring with the Care Bear Stare. The 80's certainly were a different time.
    One last thing I'll add is that, looking back on the footage used for this video, my God was there some good animation in these older cartoons, even The Wuzzles had a lot of dynamic shots and details you rarely see, either from TV cartoons back in those days, or even in TV cartoons today! It's genuinely impressive stuff... most of the time.

  • @92JazzQueen
    @92JazzQueen Рік тому +1

    The 80s was toy driven but man the villains were something. But i gotta say despite the duke being comical at times, the final showed he could be a threat which is something only a few villains can pull off

  • @christianndlovu-lh7vu
    @christianndlovu-lh7vu Рік тому +2

    Okay, so I have a pretty obscure theory, that JJ Wagnerstaff, Might have married cruella, now hear me out there are a few keypoints we have to take in consideration.
    One, they both have the same type of car straight down to the color scheme.
    Two, they both have a vendetta against dogs, which could potentially lead them to work together at One point
    Three, they both love using animals for their own personal benefits, with Cruella loving to wear the Coats of animals and JJ loving to showcase them as personal trophies or pets
    They both are quite wealthy And own large companies and businesses
    They're both villains hands down, and if they were both sent to the Isle of the lost, JJ could potentially have hooked up with cruel light. One Carlos, which would also explain, why Carlos has lighter skin called my compared to his mom in descendants, Not to be racially offensive, but it's just an Observation.
    So yeah that's my fan theory please comment and tell me what you guys think

  • @TheRealBlackarrot
    @TheRealBlackarrot Рік тому

    Nice job including Fluppy Dogs, Wuzzles & Gummi Bears!

  • @motxmod
    @motxmod Рік тому +3

    The most likely reason The Wuzzles isn't available on Disney+ is due to it being a co-production with Hasbro. You may notice that both companies have a copyright on the IP. Disney had the idea for the show but saw that Hasbro had a similar idea for a toyline. Instead of getting into a legal battle over the idea, they teamed up. This is also a reason why the show only lasted 13 episodes. The other was the passing of Bill Scott, the voice of Moosel.

  • @MrNetWraith
    @MrNetWraith Рік тому +2

    While I really do enjoy your videos, I feel a minor correction is applicable here; whilst humans can only benefit from gummiberry juice once per day, *ogres* can repeatedly empower their strength by drinking fresh doses of the stuff. It's one of their few natural strengths (outside of being nearly impervious to the soporific magic of slumber sprites). So Igthorn's desire to acquire it to power-up his army makes a lot of sense, even in the earlier episodes where ogres are explicitly stronger than humans to begin with, which the series seemed to mildly retcon in later episodes.

  • @johnboling7426
    @johnboling7426 Рік тому

    Thank you for doing this i miss watching these shows as a kid we had fluppy dogs recorded on a old vhs tape and I'm thankful disney put the gummy bears on DVD but I miss the wuzzles and their adventures the only bright spot is their episode are on UA-cam.

  • @leodenverrex3819
    @leodenverrex3819 Рік тому

    That was an EPIC video!
    Lots of territory for TV show focus.
    Keep-up the awesome Diz-nerd content!

  • @chellastation
    @chellastation Рік тому

    It is nice to revisit these series. Thank you ⚔

  • @WWChampion16
    @WWChampion16 Рік тому +4

    One of the reasons The Wuzzles was short-lived was because of the passing of Bill Scott who voiced Moosel. Though it's lack of popularity could have also been a factor.

    • @mitchfletcher2386
      @mitchfletcher2386 Рік тому +1

      That was also the reason Gruffi Gummi was voiced by Corey Burton starting from season 2.

  • @Adamguy2003
    @Adamguy2003 Рік тому

    @ 7:48- 7:56, most certainly!
    Eisner may have been a power- hungry jerk, but he was also an intelligent, competent businessman whose primary concern was keeping the company successful and profitable. The same cannot be said for Bob Iger, Bob Chapek, or Kathleen Kennedy (I know, she's not CEO of Disney, but her bungling of pretty much everything Lucasfilm runs speaks for itself).

  • @zombieguy4444
    @zombieguy4444 Рік тому +8

    Crock gives me serious King Koopa vibes

    • @maurycyoseka1057
      @maurycyoseka1057 10 місяців тому +4

      Big Mouth: "Ya know, dad? I'm so hungry that could even go to work."
      King Koopa: "Wait a minute. Work?! Where did learned that disgusting word? Did picked it up in the real world?"

    • @Glasshouse828
      @Glasshouse828 4 місяці тому +2

      Rodney The Rotten Wolf from the Pooh Villains video kinda reminds reminds me of mammalian version of King Koopa for some reason I think it’s because he’s an affably evil costumed children’s variety show villain with a raspy baritone voice

  • @anibarukyouran1145
    @anibarukyouran1145 Рік тому

    Man fluppy dogs... you unlocked some buried child memories there

  • @AttemptedVoices
    @AttemptedVoices Рік тому

    Just what I needed, a Disney Retrospective video.
    Talk about a great gift.

  • @masedaace5473
    @masedaace5473 Рік тому

    I like that I'm not the only one who compares Gummi Bears to Asterix.

  • @julymiller7456
    @julymiller7456 8 місяців тому +2

    My favorite Disney Princess (shush, she had about half the 65 episodes and was in every of the five seasons) is Calla the heroine to the villain you mentioned. Duke Igthorne. One possible reason Igthorne gets away with so much is actually canon. The Duke is the King's brother. This would cause the King all kinds of real life medieval problems for both the king and the princess. Related to the villain? Yikes!

  • @aidanhever3369
    @aidanhever3369 Рік тому +4

    If you plan to do a retrospective of the DuckTales villains, will you also include the Darkwing Duck villains ?

    • @sirhenrymorgan1187
      @sirhenrymorgan1187 Рік тому +3

      I was wondering this myself. Considering that-
      *SPOILERS!!!* for DuckTales 2017:
      F.O.W.L. are the ultimate villains of DT17, should the DuckTales and Darkwing villains be put together in one vid?

  • @volzpair9801
    @volzpair9801 8 місяців тому +1

    Could also compare the children from the gummy bears with an older longer running series called the Smurfs

  • @battybuddy
    @battybuddy Рік тому +1

    I should note that with igthorn, I always thought he was the ultimate example of the evils of human opportunism. If he can weaponize it, he will- if he CANT weaponize it, he’ll find out how to weaponize something ELSE by proxy.

    • @battybuddy
      @battybuddy Рік тому

      Also with igthorn, I always imagined the reason Igthorn went bad was cause he became disillusioned with the knight code when he felt like he should have gotten more recognition for his accomplishments: and that led to things like twisting the rules and outright scheming and backstabbing. I don’t think Gregor was a bad guy with Igthorn being good, but I think he might have been TOO forgiving of Igthorn when he was on the way to corruption, giving him too many second chances.

  • @MisterWin
    @MisterWin Рік тому +2

    This is one of the few cartoons to have a series finale. Though, I believe it was aired out of order.

    • @sirhenrymorgan1187
      @sirhenrymorgan1187 Рік тому +3

      I watched Gummi Bears for the first time on Disney+ and was very confused that there were still a few more episodes after the finale. D+ apparently put the episodes in airing order.
      I think they shoulda put them in production order instead...

    • @MisterWin
      @MisterWin Рік тому +2

      @@sirhenrymorgan1187 Agreed! I actually knew about the misorder and watched the finale last during my binge.

  • @Nova7o9
    @Nova7o9 Рік тому

    FLUPPIES! Lol, I had a VHS recording of the film and it was my little sister’s favorite so we watched it a lot.

  • @TMan5636
    @TMan5636 Рік тому +13

    I can't be the only one who thinks Crock when he's wearing the crown looks like a Disneyfied King K.Rool.

    • @Nonjola
      @Nonjola Рік тому +6

      Nah, I was thinking the same. If DiC had made a DKC cartoon, KKR would most likely look like this.

    • @tracyndiyob162
      @tracyndiyob162 Рік тому

      definitely thought that too alongside igthorn being a medieval captain hook(also skeletor when he was alive thanks to the nostalgia critic.:3) that i'd kinda love to see him team up with crock if we got another disney afternoon reboot.

    • @maurycyoseka1057
      @maurycyoseka1057 10 місяців тому

      Krusha: "You've missed me?"
      K. Rool: "Yes, you've heard me right, I've missed you."
      Krusha gives his highness a smooch.
      K. Rool: "Yuck!"

  • @timothylyons1529
    @timothylyons1529 8 місяців тому +2

    adventures of gummi bears is steamboat willie of disney tv cartoon shows
    one would say wuzzle run so adventures of gummi bears could walk

  • @Starbeam1979
    @Starbeam1979 3 місяці тому

    I still do the "okey dokey dookie" when saying "okay" followed by an as gruff as I can do and angry sounding "don't call me dookie!" Loved Gummy Bears and Wuzzles as a kid.

  • @kermitTHEdinosaur93
    @kermitTHEdinosaur93 Рік тому

    Pretty nice video on certainly Disney TV Villains. I hope you someday do the original Playhouse Disney/Disney Junior Villains in the future sometime.

  • @PhilBowes
    @PhilBowes Рік тому +2

    Hey maybe you could say the one of the scrapped toon patroll members in Rodger rabbit twichy in your Rodger rabbit retrospective

  • @Al1701
    @Al1701 Рік тому +8

    I wish they would finally give the Fluppies a series, considering the success of the Duck Tales reboot. Dimension-hopping spaniels has plenty of possibility, and the pilot gave sense they would visit different dimensions from time to time now that they have regular contact with their home. Who knows what kind of adventures they could've had.

  • @BrawlSnorlax
    @BrawlSnorlax Рік тому +1

    Sometimes I think about who I would make the Mooks in the a Shared universe version on a given property. Mostly Super Smash bors or a were Cartoon Network, DC comics, Mass Effect ...thing (I know Mass Effect is strange to lump in but I just wanna)
    Anyway those Weesles from Mr. Toad and the Orgers, and the ones from Sleeping Beauty look like a pretty good bunch of Mooks to me.

  • @lainiwakura1776
    @lainiwakura1776 Рік тому +3

    Yeah, too bad Gummi Bears isn't as fondly remembered, I loved that show back in the day! Some of the clips in this triggered long forgotten memories even.