The Kokoda Track Campaign: How The Japanese Were Turned Back in New Guinea | Battles Won & Lost
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- The destruction of the Anglo-American convoy PQ 17 was one of the worst naval disasters of WWII. Hunted down by German U-Boats, Luftwaffe and the notorious Tirpitz, the 35 merchant ships headed for Arkhangelsk were carrying 700 million dollars worth of cargo, including tanks, aircraft and other supplies. With these supplies all destined for the Soviets to utilise against Hitler’s during Operation Barbarossa, what effect did the destruction of this convoy have for the German war effort, and what might have happened had it reached its destination intact?
00:00 - Start
01:40 - The Kokoda Track Campaign (1942)
11:55 - The Battle Of Suomussalmi (1939)
18:44 - The Battle of Kasserine Pass (1943)
24:14 - The Recovery of Burma (1944)
32:30 - Convoy PQ17 (1942)
39:50 - The Battle of Moscow (1941)
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Operation Typhoon isn’t mentioned until the 41st of 49 minutes. But I loved learning about all of the activity that was a lead up and background to Operation Typhoon too. Now I just want the in depth look at Typhoon itself.
These videos are often misleading in the title. The segment on the battle for Moscow (operation Typhoon) is at the very end of the video and, consequently, is nay given cursory coverage. The video quality is good verbally, but title is completely misleading. If you tuned in to see comprehensive discussion of Typhoon, you would be disappointed.
Back in the early 90's, a friend of mine ran a jewelry store, and one of his customers was a gent who's ship was sunk in PQ-17. He was in a lifeboat for 14 days before being picked up. He sailed on a few more convoys, and once again had to take to the lifeboats. This guy had moved to Florida because he could not stand any temp below about 55, and when it did, he just stayed inside until it was warm enough to go outside again. He gave me a copy of a book which detailed the loss of his first ship, and it was lost along with everything else a few years back.
Tom was a collector of silver, and probably had about two metric tons of it when he passed. He had some great sea stories, even outside of his convoy runs. As I had been in the US Navy in the '60's, and had gone to Vietnam the long way round, we were able to share a lot. Great guy, and sure miss sitting and drinking coffee in the jewelry store with him.
@Craig Wilcox That's amazing! Thanks for sharing. 👍
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People just do not understand next to no one left on this earth alive that can tell the stories of a life back in these days a treasure it truly is.
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The sacrifice of the merchant sailors in the Battle Of The Atlantic (& The Pacific too)
for the final Victory, can never be emphasized enough.
I had a patient that joined the US Navy in 1938, he was an Machinist Mate/Engineer on the USS Niblack a DD, doing Neutrality Patrol Convoys to England and back. Quote "those 8 knot convoys to England were terrible, the North Atlantic storms, the ship rolling so far you'd be walking on the bulkhead not the deck of the engineroom, wondering if she was going to right herself, then she'd roll the other way". They were in Convoy with the USS Rueben James, OCT 1941 when the Rueben James was torpedoed and sunk with large loss of life, Halloween Night Oct, 1941 BEFORE we were supposedly in the shooting war, Pearl Harbor Attack was still a month or so away. I asked why, as we weren't "in it" yet. He stated "they don't mention that WE depth Charged that submarine off Iceland some days before so he was retaliating. The Niblack stopped to pickup survivors, not knowing they were in the sights of the U Boat. The U Boat commander decided that they were doing a humanitarian thing so he wouldn't sink them also. Eric Topp, WW2 U Boat ACE went on to become an Admiral in the post War German Navy.
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Thank you for the heartwarming story.
As a combat vet I say those men were just as brave as anyone I served with. Hats off to them!
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On the frontline the enemy never makes the distinction between soldier & civilian
I love these old documentaries...you don't find them on regular satellite TV...
Great channel
Thank you
Thanks @Sheri Robinson.
That's one thing I love about UA-cam finding so many since nowhere else has them but some do get copyright strikes which sucks.
PQ-17 convoy actually starts at 32:30
anyone knows the sound track that starts at 34:30?
Thanks!
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Thanks
Note to self - read description and forget about title. 39:50 for Moscow
Thank you so much for uploading this! The PQ-17 convoy has come up a couple times in conversation and i meant to look into it. Perfect timing!
Before his bad reputation days, David Irving has written a good book on PQ 17.
Worth checking out PQ 13 too described in the book "Frozen Fury".
"The PQ-17 convoy has come up a couple times in conversation". That's not something you hear everyday. :)
Some of the best coverage I've seen. Thank you.
GOOD CHANNEL.
SHOWS ALMOST AN HOUR ON EACH VIDEO WHAT PEOPLE REALLY NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE WARS OF THE PAST.
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK 💯
Just the logistics is incredible
Excellent documentary.
Good documentary......eventually!!!
3/4 of this part of the doc has nothing to do with the battle of Moscow. If you’re going to splice up an existing documentary at least do it correctly !! Great doc regardless thx for the upload
VERY informative...Thanks for share!!!
A lot better if the "Battles Won & Lost" section had been given its own video. As a WW2 buff, I was hoping that this video would focus on the history and fate of Convoy PQ 17. A great example of the phrase, "Been there, done that."
This was great concise information of the war with Rommel in N. Africa, I learned a lot. I actually, know more about the Allied forces against Germany/Italy than I ever did.
I like this channel. It deserves more recognition.
Absolutely
I learn alot from these "battles won battles lost" series. But they do seem to jump around without showing more geological evidence where these new battle areas are. Thats all. Love the content and its free.........
Indeed
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My Grandfather (Age 16)was part of the wehrmacht reconnaissance of Moscow. I watch these videos in hopes to see him.
I think also a good variant would be to look up in stadarchiv, since you probably reside in Germany and know German. They for sure could try helping
Why blur anything? You literally showed someone blown in half, only saw was legs… so why blur literally anything in this video?
The ship that "hit ice" and "had to turn back" was probably named Kamchatka.
Port Moresby was the worst place in the world, and it´s still the worst place in the world.
less than two minutes in and I am already tired of the overuse of added ambience noise...
I remember reading a book about this convoy titled the same. The voyage of PQ 17.
I love the blank 'map' the 2 men confront each other
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Wrong title for wrong documentary get your bot channel action together
It starts at 32:30
Entire episode must be about PQ17 not just 6minutes of basic information. There is a lot to say about, very interesting and very sad story
31:24 Gurkha parachute battalion - never heard of that one.
This is the greatest conflict in history so far stay tuned God help us all
You have got to hand it to the Russian people, note people and military not state, what a fabulous tenacious and heroic fight that they put up, bravo.
@Leftist Hunter Apparently that's maybe as much myth as truth. One of the youtube historians went in to it. Possibly TIK or Mark Felton?
@Leftist Hunter He did say "people... not state".
Too bad about the politicians who had them on the wrong side until they almost got slaughtered (and would have without the Western supply lines) though. Leaves thoughtful types with mixed perceptions, especially since they wound up wrecking Eastern Europe for decades in the denouement.
@@nabirasch5169 Hi
No doubt that the Russian state were murdering treacherous and double dealing, but the fact is the Russian broke the back of the Germany army, the American and British supplies made a big difference of course and the British merchant navy paid a huge price getting them up to archangel
Russia committed as many war crimes as Germany did in WW2
If your looking for info on PQ17, start at 34:00.
32:30 for PQ17
anyone knows the sound track that starts at 34:30?
My Mrs’s gabdfather god rest his soul was part of these Murmansk convoys ,a gunner
What is the board game shown in the opening?
Nice video from excellent historic channel...
What is the music at 3430?????
Nice video from excellent historic channel...showing General SNOW..acted cruelty even against Soviet army....country 3/4 of its territory has snow weather .in Finland's defense in 1939 ...
Yeah
6:15 this guys pupils are extremely dilated. That’s probably some crazy lighting they use... or something.
How did they get Doogie Howser MD to provide commentary?
These documentaries are all over the place
Just prior to COVID, I read " The Ghost Ships of Archangel " by William Geroux - Convoys to Russia during WW II. WOW !
Worth checking out PQ 13 too described in the book "Frozen Fury".
@@gordonfrickers5592 Thanks.
@@gordonfrickers5592 Also, David Irving's 'The Destruction of Convoy PQ 17'.
What in the world is COVID?
One of my moms uncles was member of the 104th Timberwolf division of infantry and was in a tank that got knocked out he was able to secure the area by taking 5 enemy prisoners which allowed medics to get in. A month earlier he had taken shrapnel in the back and has the Purple Heart for that. He received a bronze star for saving his crew from the tank.
Never forget your history. Wow, what a fantastic story. Thanks for sharing.
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Music is so loud and narration is quiet. Please keep the music level low.
I like to history.. Please translated tagalog language.. God bless all..
（I’ve never seen anyone do it better
Am I missing something here? I thought this was supposed to be about a convoy on the sea, not land convoys from the USSR down to Australia.
It‘s a bit confusing but the channel seems to always feature several stories in a video but the thumbnail and titel presents it as a documentation about one specific topic. Strange choice after all but good content still.
PQ-17 actually starts at 32:30
The whole documentary is made for the mentally handicapped so this is just nit picking.
@@negatron7321 Since you are here it seems like it reaches it's audience... ;) Jokes aside, we all don't have to watch it if we don't like it.
@@hookybrickshooky9529 If I were the emperor I would make the producers of this thing watch two angry people move pieces of colorful cardboard around incoherently for 12 hours straight for wasting a minute of mine. It would be a tyrannical and yet unconventionally just world at the same time.
love the looks they give each other, like they are the real generals... Thanks for the video, anyway...
The Russian objective was not the conquest of Finland but the seizure of strategically important areas for the defense of Leningrad. The Allies had broken the German codes and knew where Rommel would strike.
I want to know where you can buy this huge board game these two guys are playing!!
Count me in
Interesting material certainly; but a mis-leading video/title.
It should perhaps be called- 'A little bit on PQ17, but mostly on the rest of the war'. ;o)
How come millions aren't watching this?
Np one cares about "old timey" history, only the "keyboard historians" do.
One of the biggest blunders of the second world war had to be the PQ 17 convoy, the British heard a rumour that the the German battleship tirpitz was going to attack the convoy and simply panic,it was ever man for himself more than half was sunk, close to 400 million in supplies went to the bottom of the north Atlantic. In today's money it would be in the billions 😥
Might want to redo the map depicting Finland in the beginning of the section about the Battle of Suomussalmi. It depicts Finland's borders as they are today, after the territorial losses of the Continuation War (1941-44), and because of this the Mannerheim line is in the wrong place.
I didn't watch the part about PQ17 yet, but I'm sure it mentioned that the information on the convoy was given to the Germans by Finnish signals intelligence, who were able to decipher many Russian codes.
Very interesting, especially when considering Churchill's reluctance to declare Finland an enemy.
@@nabirasch5169 Well, I doubt the British knew about the sharing of information, and PQ17 in particular.
Western intelligence services were extremely interested in Finnish signals information at the end of the war. In 1944, when it was not entirely clear what the Soviets would do after the armistice, Finns sent a lot of their material to Sweden for safekeeping. A lot of the material ended up in not just Swedish hands, but also British and US hands (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Stella_Polaris)
And the Finnish situation was very tricky morally speaking. The Soviets were the aggressor in the Winter War (1939-40) and as they continued to harass Finns after the war and considered Finland to be in their Sphere of Influence. Finland had very few choices. Most of them bad. And Finns were out for revenge in 1941. Churchill was most likely very aware of this.
Misleading title for this video. I guess I’m not the only one to notice.
I'm not too sure who won that staring contest
I don't like this channel. It deserves more recognition
I hope that justice and rights will continue in the whole country will fighting for🙏🙏🤜🤛
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Nope. Plenty bigger stuff ups than that. Yamato cruise, Bismarck jaunt, every time the Italians put to sea or even stayed in port etc.....
Although he's a complete muppet Jeremy Clarkson made a very good documentary about convoy PQ17. Well worth a watch.
Personally I disagree with you and I think Jeremy Clarkson is quite a funny guy, however I agree with you on his documentary about PQ-17. It was very good.
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CBI: the 'forgotten theatre'.
And of course Dudley Pound emerges unscathed.
Never seen this look at the War before and I have seen a lot.
Patton did NOT like being referred to as "Blood and Guts" according to Gen. Bradley's bio.
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Please dont send me to new guinea. It seems way too hot there.
What was naval about this?
30 minutes of setup for a 15 min description of PQ17? Needs Alot of editing or rename the piece.
'With these supplies all destined for the Soviets to utilise against Hitler’s during Operation Barbarossa, what effect did the destruction of this convoy have for the German war effort'
@Pendulous Testicularis
Less than that, given that Barbarossa finished in 1941 and PQ17 toooik place in 1942.
German accounts speak of British and American equipment turning up in considerable quantities all over the Russian front.
This is NOT PQ 17.
talking background while we listen to music
PQ 17: not nearly enough protection. A failure of navel competence.
@@8634StJamesAve Be fair, he was just naval gazzing. Poor guy. I'm guessing he'll never get those two mixed up again. Ha ha
Interesting film material but everything is stitched together in an odd, arbitrary way. The material related to PQ17 starts about 2/3 of the way in.
Yeah, it's weird. There are better organized and more thorough accounts if you look around.
Real footage rules
Unfortunately for the British her colony's didn't produce much in terms of fighting men,the Indian divisions tried their best but wasn't cut out for this kind of brutal fighting...
Actually the Indians and Gurkhas performed better than many of their British counterparts
I could watch this thing, this Barbarossa invasion a hundred different ways on a hundred different days and each and every single time I would come to the same conclusion and that conclusion is the Wehrmacht would have taken Russia if they had 25% more Luftwaffe fighter jets.
The Soviet Union entered the war in 1939 by hitting Poland.They were not on the Allied side & there was no Lend Lease agreement then.
At first Germany and Russia was allies, but everyone knew that wasn't gonna last.
Actually France and England had pledged to come to Poland’s aid if attacked. However logistically it would have been impossible. With the quick overrun there was no way they could aid her.
Blank spots, defocussed? What?
Seems strange the first strike will be our own capital.
Oh these two moving paper toys, stupid!
probably could have done phase 2 of operation sealion
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Marilyn Manson. Mobscene
Excellent presentation. I wonder why the German tanks froze up in the winter but the Russian tanks did not ? Anybody ??
They did. I would also think the Russians knew a little more on getting them going again because its russia. Ive heard of American tankers in the battle of the bulge that started a fire under there oil pan because it had become so thick the motor wouldnt turn over.
Russian may have had some type of better preheating both for oil, block and fuel and a few field tricks learned fighting Finland. At some point if it gets very cold, none of it works.
Russia had tremendous amounts of T34 tanks .. volume
Russia was the only Country in WW2 to use diesel fuel , don't know if that was it or not , but could be...
@@arrow-lo7jf Interesting point of information, but I don't think that's the explanation. Diesel oil actually is inferior to petrol in freezing temperatures and needs additives to even be on par.
@@pultsari9036 You are right , I looked that up after my reply ( An itch I had to scratch ) According to a Soviet tanker , Fyodor Yanovich , and the manual of a Soviet tank in winter conditions ,
A. Petroleum is to be added to diesel fuel : about 15 - 40 % according to air temperature . They did the same as the Germans to warm the tanks , stoves , pits even trenches. Thanks for the conversation and Info , got me thinking , which is a good thing. peace.
2000 Japanese (04:57) fighting on the Kokoda Track, but 6% of 150.000 survived? (10:50)
Is there some miscalculation?
The whole IJ force on New Guinea was meant I guess (incl. those north at Hollandia, Lae etc.). And even if they had terrible losses and needed to retreat through dense jungles, the 6% is probably too low, I would guess 15-20% survived (incl POWs)
Yeah, they botched it. There are some better accounts on UA-cam.
@@UsoundsGermany You mean that there were 150.000 there and didn't move to reinforce the 2.000 who were going for the CAPITAL???
I didn't knew Russia even lost against Finland. Lol 😂
The USSR actually won.
(More or less)
But lost MUCH more soldiers.
And thankfully the finish nation survived.
0:49 I always cringe when I see these World War 2 videos being uploaded with music trying to glorify the "Battle" when it's all very sad, especially when you have two Journalists putting a still video of themselves right in the middle of World War 2 content to try and make themselves relevant as part of the story.
By sending arms to russia
The far east was neglected
Resulting in malaya and singapore
Falling
Not enough aircraft and tanks
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So did the Australians swim up to Moscow?
Millions....it will be millions
Countdown to zero
Its rare to hear from former Japanese combatants , isn't it ? We hear from allies and Germans , but Japan and Italy not so much
There's a good book--Midway--by the Japanese air leaders who led the attack that covers a lot of the significant action in the lead up and fallout that you would enjoy reading if you ordered it (used copies for sale online).
The guys moving the pieces on the map is corny…. A graphic would be better. Not these two glaring at each other and smirking like they are thinking or something.
39:40 Did he call Tirpitz a "pocket battleship?" 45,000+tons is pocket?
A full sized iowa class battleship is 57,000
He's got big pockets
@@stevenschnelz6944 you know what they say about big pockets.
Mis-leading title and description. Thumbs down.
Is This a British production?
You are joking of course that Birma was the biggest Japanese defeat... How about complete annihilation of Kwantung Army?