I spent a few hours on the RS, then jumped straight on the R and did the same route. I found the R power delivery to be much better than the RS, especially off the line. The brakes on the RS are another league but I definitely preferred the R overall, so now I do have one sat in my garage. Absolutely love it 😁
I am most happy to own a Street Triple 765 R since 2019. It has nearly 30.000 km now on the clock. No issue whatsoever since new. Great touring bike with a pair of SW Motech soft saddle bags and the quick release tank bag. I toured the Alps from Geneva to Nice, I have been riding to Spain, Portugal and South Morocco with this bike. No problem, I am aged 69 and living in the Southwest of France 30 miles north of Biarritz. Perfect bike for me! It’s a lightweight bike which is essential for me and my old age 😜. I am thinking of single headlight conversion too 👍😊
Impressive! I don't care what others say, I love the praying mantis headlights. Helps with the distinctive look. My 2018, also problem free since I purchased new, only has ~10k on the clock. My Tiger does most of the touring duty though. Other bikes have come and gone since, but the Street Triple R will always have a place in my garage!
I bought the R in August 2018, I was changing from a GSX-R750 thinking I had to sacrifice some fun for more comfort, I couldn't have been more wrong ,it's the most fun I've had on a bike since my first 350L/C in the early 80s, in fact I'd probably call it the equivalent of a four stroke L/C.
I did more or less the same thing, swapped my K8 1000 in for an R last year. I miss the drama of the big bike occasionally but the STR is just far more fun at realistic speeds, and my licence thanks me for it!
@Drakey Drake Which bit surprises you? The K8 is a fabulous machine but at legal UK speeds it's barely trying, where the Street is fun and engaging for me. I found I was taking liberties with speed on the Suzuki that you just can't do these days. Thanks for the Oulton view, it's a great circuit even at the merely brisk pace on those videos (bike was on Road Pilot 4s after a touring week away).
@Drakey Drake 1000s are awesome for sure, and I do miss that silly engine occasionally, but for sheer fun you can't beat ragging a smaller engine (if you want to keep your licence any where near intact that is). Also, I have other bikes alongside the funky little StreetR :)
These really are great bikes. Terrific handling and exquisite induction noise are intoxicating. I had the RS model, it made me ride like a goon, so it was traded it in on a 1200 Scrambler. License saved.
I’ve owned this bike for over 2 years, and I’m going to own it until she quits on me. I’ve gone over 300 miles in a day, and the seat held up fantastically. Has a good amount of space to stretch out too. Just last week I fitted a new exhaust. Sc project sc1r. The bike feels like a brand new bike and I couldn’t recommend it more. Adds a powerful low-down grunt to the bike that it is sorely missing as stock
Views from the Man Cave from videos and other reviews I heard the Yoshi was too loud for me. Love the sc, it has a deep throaty sound. Gives my ears an orgasm every time
I love the 675 triple. Cracking engine!! A while back, I owned a Honda VFR800, wasted my time with it when Triumph triples have been getting better and better every model update. Having said that, I’m currently on a Thruxton R. Not in the same class but has a tonne of character. Plus I’m just on the wrong side of 50 now 😎
I changed my 2018 Tiger 1200 in on a new 2019 Street Triple R ..... way lighter and heaps more fun factor but for me personally comfort while touring does not exist (yet) BUT I have not given up trying (yet). Unfortunately I want to do everything with 1 x bike. Tour, Commute, carve twisty’s. That Triple is so smooth and addictive....awesome bike for sure. You nailed it!
Thanks for your honest thoughts I own a 675R had a test ride on a 765 RS couple of years back never tried a 765R I prefer the look of the R tho . I would trade if it had cruise control It’s blanked off unlike the speed triple which has the same control unit . Shame as I travel long touring as well as weekend blast I it’s a must on next bike .
I love my Triple 765 R. I bought a model in 2020, the last of its line before the revised model. The model released after mine I would argue has better styling, in terms of the headlights.. but the previous model has the TFT screen etc.
@@striple765 The 2020 TFT 765 R is QS only. The analogue tacho 2021 765 R has the blipper and the QS. TBH I prefer the tacho over the TFT but want the bling on the RS :(
Nice review ,have to agree with you about the standard headlight setup , it always has divided opinion , the single headlight you suggested has it for me , cheers
Cheers Matt. Yes it’s odd as it only bothers me when looking at it side on. From the front it looks ace, but I do think the single light conversion is superb
Just got back from my dealer having purchased an RS for less than R money plus an Arrow Can thrown in for good measure. Great deals to be had on the outgoing 2019 RS 👍
Nailed it and that is the reason I went for the R instead of the RS. I am a heavier person, so I wish it had a tad more power, but for someone under 200lbs, it is awesome.
Views from the Man Cave I used to ride to Finchingfield from Wakering with a then girlfriend on my BMW R100RS. Have lunch at the Fox..and ride the country roads ...absolute bliss, I envy you your location. I live in Spain now where I believe the roads are kept in better repair. There are many good rides where I currently live, but l remember the pleasant summer days riding the Essex and Kent countryside.
Great review and loved the audio at the end. I test rode the original Street Triple back in 2007? and nearly chopped my Daytona in for one, but like you I just couldn't fall in love with the bike due to those fugly headlights. I hoped they would eventually get rid of them but each new model just changes them a bit. I hadn't even considered a headlight conversion but it did look much better in that image. I've got a Street Scrambler now which I'm finding a bit slow and I didn't love the Speed Twin when I rode it, so I could see me going for the Triple and swapping out the headlight.
Thanks and yes I was surprised how good that conversion looks. I have the wants now, but not sure I’d want to chip in the Tiger, certainly not at this time of year
I got the RS cause I do track work, if I didn’t do that the S would have been fine. The Nissan 2 pots are actually damn good, and the non adjustable showa feels great also
I got a second hand Street Triple A2 S recently and had it derestricted. It's awesome. 94 BHP is enough for me. The cheaper brakes and suspension feel okay on my A2 S, but I don't think that I'm a "discerning" rider just yet. I have test ridden the RS, it went quicker than I need, plus it also cost quite a bit more. Haven't tried an R. Why main moan about the new RS are the colours it is available in, apart from cost, one of the reasons I got the A2 S was that it is in bright red. My only moan about the R and the S are the standard mirrors. Bar ends are much nicer, which fortunately the previous owner of my bike had fitted. Guess I wouldn't mind a quick shifter some day .
Poor 'ol Street Triples and their headlights, no respect 😁 otherwise a brilliant motorbike. I test rode one, love the sound of a triple. back in the 80's my roommate had one those Yamaha 850 triples with an aftermarket exhaust it sounded good. I was riding a Kawasaki GPz 550 at the time, it was fast for its size and day.
Had to check the date of this video - you're a few years late to the party it seems! I have the RS myself, had it for over 18 months now, and can honestly say it is brilliant on the roads - not a single problem with it; the power and stopping are faultless; but the pogos are pretty harsh - but a proper setup will sort that out. I had the R for a week when my RS went in for an oil leak, and it's terrible by comparison - those brakes! The lesser Brembos just felt completely wooden, and although I knew they would stop me, they just completely lacked the feel of the M50s. The R has more torque in the middle, but that seems to be the only benefit it has - that and saving yourself about a grand. But in the real world, you won't notice the difference, and you lose some of the nicer bits that come with the RS as standard - up-rated shock (and forks?), nice bar end mirrors, and the epic M50s. Given the choice between the two again, the RS will be the choice every time - the lack of torque really isn't an issue to 95% of riders; as most people's arse-dyno won't pick up on this detail - and most people won't mind dancing up and down the box either - certainly if you have ridden a sportsbike in the past.
TheScortUK I’ve ridden both. Back to back specifically to feel out which I’d prefer and I went with the R. Each to their own but despite the above comment, my arse Dyno easily felt the power difference. The M50’s were awesome but I figure I could spend the money upgrading the brakes on the R and keep the noticeable extra torque.
Most pro road testers actually prefer the R over the RS. The R has better more compliant suspension for the road. The extra power AND torque upto 10,000 rpm can be felt and makes more sense. If you do track days then get the RS otherwise the R is the better bet.
Great review!!! Just a thought about the Dyno Graphs/Charts. What "mode" do you think the bikes were in?? Possible the R was in sport and the RS was in track and this is the cause/reason for the different power curves. The track mode available on the RS but not the R allows for the larger HP number?? Possible the R and RS would dyno pretty much the same in the same mode?? Just a thought, again great review. Thanks
Sadly I don't have much in the way of background information for the charts, but I would assume they were all taken from the same mode? Each bike has its own particular 'base' tune and the rider modes tend only to alter traction control, ABS and throttle response. The RS offers more hp, but with the same peak torque.
I don't get it why so many brands make such ugly headlights. There is a kit so you get one round headlight but its 600€. I guess its worth it since it looks way better than the original, but still to pay 600€ to fix design flaws sucks.
mmm ... Yes an awesome motorcycle. But all things considered how does the Yamaha 900 XSR compare to the Street Triple (price, handling, power, overall bang for the value?) in your opinion ?
White Rabbitt I have a 2018 Street Triple R and my buddy has a 2017 FZ-09. Power is similar. Yamaha is a bit more jumpy. Overall the build quality, precision, and incredible handling and stability of the ST R is pretty unbeatable to me.
Interesting bikes to compare, the XSR looks (and i guess is physically bigger). I've always though that they have 'tall' looking engines. Obviously the Yam has less sporty styling and i'm told they are a little more twitchy on the road. The Triumph is 20 or so KG lighter. The XSR is more expensive too.
On the headlights I really do agree that they stick out too far forward. It ends up looking like something is missing. On conversions though, I wonder whether someone will come up with a mount for the new Rocket III lights.
I’m giving a thumbs down to the three thumbs down on this awesome review. I someday hope to have reviews this awesome on my channel some day. I too have the R and absolutely love it!
Thanks, it’s always hard to tell why people thumb down. Maybe they don’t like the ‘product’ maybe they don’t like ‘my review’ sometimes people get triggered because I prefer a particular brand or model that is different to theirs. Who knows? Thanks for your comment, I’ll check out your channel
Thanks for your comment, Tony! I know you have a Tiger 800, so I figure this is your top choice for a do-everything bike. I know the Tiger 800 is such a flexible bike, but I’m just mad for the Speed Twin.
I love the look of my T100 Black but it's a 2014 so it only has 65hp. I want something more powerful but love the old school look. Speed twin is a winner. Now if I wanted full power and nothing else then Triple is the way to go.
I spent a few hours on the RS, then jumped straight on the R and did the same route. I found the R power delivery to be much better than the RS, especially off the line. The brakes on the RS are another league but I definitely preferred the R overall, so now I do have one sat in my garage. Absolutely love it 😁
Nice!
I am most happy to own a Street Triple 765 R since 2019.
It has nearly 30.000 km now on the clock.
No issue whatsoever since new.
Great touring bike with a pair of SW Motech soft saddle bags and the quick release tank bag.
I toured the Alps from Geneva to Nice, I have been riding to Spain, Portugal and South Morocco with this bike.
No problem, I am aged 69 and living in the Southwest of France 30 miles north of Biarritz.
Perfect bike for me!
It’s a lightweight bike which is essential for me and my old age 😜.
I am thinking of single headlight conversion too 👍😊
Impressive!
I don't care what others say, I love the praying mantis headlights. Helps with the distinctive look.
My 2018, also problem free since I purchased new, only has ~10k on the clock. My Tiger does most of the touring duty though. Other bikes have come and gone since, but the Street Triple R will always have a place in my garage!
I bought the R in August 2018, I was changing from a GSX-R750 thinking I had to sacrifice some fun for more comfort, I couldn't have been more wrong ,it's the most fun I've had on a bike since my first 350L/C in the early 80s, in fact I'd probably call it the equivalent of a four stroke L/C.
I did more or less the same thing, swapped my K8 1000 in for an R last year. I miss the drama of the big bike occasionally but the STR is just far more fun at realistic speeds, and my licence thanks me for it!
@Drakey Drake Which bit surprises you? The K8 is a fabulous machine but at legal UK speeds it's barely trying, where the Street is fun and engaging for me. I found I was taking liberties with speed on the Suzuki that you just can't do these days. Thanks for the Oulton view, it's a great circuit even at the merely brisk pace on those videos (bike was on Road Pilot 4s after a touring week away).
@Drakey Drake 1000s are awesome for sure, and I do miss that silly engine occasionally, but for sheer fun you can't beat ragging a smaller engine (if you want to keep your licence any where near intact that is). Also, I have other bikes alongside the funky little StreetR :)
These really are great bikes. Terrific handling and exquisite induction noise are intoxicating. I had the RS model, it made me ride like a goon, so it was traded it in on a 1200 Scrambler. License saved.
Yes that is a problem with them, I don’t know if I could trust myself 😳
I'm a new rider and I got my street triple r two weeks ago and I love everything about this bike
Enjoy it!
I’ve owned this bike for over 2 years, and I’m going to own it until she quits on me. I’ve gone over 300 miles in a day, and the seat held up fantastically. Has a good amount of space to stretch out too. Just last week I fitted a new exhaust. Sc project sc1r. The bike feels like a brand new bike and I couldn’t recommend it more. Adds a powerful low-down grunt to the bike that it is sorely missing as stock
I heard one a little while ago with the Yoshimura exhaust, and if I could have afforded to, I would have bought it on the spot!
Views from the Man Cave from videos and other reviews I heard the Yoshi was too loud for me. Love the sc, it has a deep throaty sound. Gives my ears an orgasm every time
Couldn’t agree more on the R model and, of course, the Single Headlight Conversion 😉
Of course! 😂
I love the 675 triple. Cracking engine!!
A while back, I owned a Honda VFR800, wasted my time with it when Triumph triples have been getting better and better every model update.
Having said that, I’m currently on a Thruxton R. Not in the same class but has a tonne of character. Plus I’m just on the wrong side of 50 now 😎
me too, I only worry that it makes me want to ride fast ALL the time. I'd still love to have a Thruxton R in the garage, or an R9T!
I changed my 2018 Tiger 1200 in on a new 2019 Street Triple R ..... way lighter and heaps more fun factor but for me personally comfort while touring does not exist (yet) BUT I have not given up trying (yet). Unfortunately I want to do everything with 1 x bike. Tour, Commute, carve twisty’s. That Triple is so smooth and addictive....awesome bike for sure. You nailed it!
Yep thats the conundrum, i thought about chopping my Tiger 800, but as much fun as the street triple is, is not as all round practical....
Thanks for your honest thoughts
I own a 675R
had a test ride on a 765 RS couple of years back never tried a 765R I prefer the look of the R tho .
I would trade if it had cruise control
It’s blanked off unlike the speed triple which has the same control unit .
Shame as I travel long touring as well as weekend blast
I it’s a must on next bike .
Thanks for commenting! I never rode this on a long enough journey to start looking for a cruise control button, but I see your point
I love my Triple 765 R.
I bought a model in 2020, the last of its line before the revised model.
The model released after mine I would argue has better styling, in terms of the headlights.. but the previous model has the TFT screen etc.
Does the 2020 come with bi directional quick shifter ?
@@booshting3520 yes all R comes with a quick shifter
@@striple765 The 2020 TFT 765 R is QS only. The analogue tacho 2021 765 R has the blipper and the QS. TBH I prefer the tacho over the TFT but want the bling on the RS :(
Nice review ,have to agree with you about the standard headlight setup , it always has divided opinion , the single headlight you suggested has it for me , cheers
Cheers Matt. Yes it’s odd as it only bothers me when looking at it side on. From the front it looks ace, but I do think the single light conversion is superb
Just got back from my dealer having purchased an RS for less than R money plus an Arrow Can thrown in for good measure. Great deals to be had on the outgoing 2019 RS 👍
Interesting, enjoy the bike!
@@mancavemoto Cheers, I will 👍
I've booked the first service in for April 2020 😎
Nailed it and that is the reason I went for the R instead of the RS. I am a heavier person, so I wish it had a tad more power, but for someone under 200lbs, it is awesome.
cheers
Definitely the most fun and exciting ride I’ve ever had
👍
Great review. Just put a deposit on a 2018 765R. And only live down the road from Finchingfield
Nice! I might see you around then
I had the 675 r back in 2013 best bike I ever had, wish I never sold it, I'm tempting with getting the new version now as I've just sold my mt10 sp
I've come to appreciate them more
Same as mine, I opted for the quick shifter and it’s abs fabulous machine
Nice! QS would be cool. Problem is I have the wants now....
Sounds awesome. Most camera microphones dont do the sound justice, so I can only imagine how good it sounds in real life.
Exactly, I’m trying to find the best solution to record exhaust sound. I may have found a solution but it means spending more money
Just watched your take on the 765 Triumph Street Triple and thought I noticed a just a small part of Finchingfield ....A lovely part of England
You did indeed Brian, thats my back yard and i'm lucky to have so many nice riding roads on my doorstep
Views from the Man Cave I used to ride to Finchingfield from Wakering with a then girlfriend on my BMW R100RS. Have lunch at the Fox..and ride the country roads ...absolute bliss, I envy you your location. I live in Spain now where I believe the roads are kept in better repair. There are many good rides where I currently live, but l remember the pleasant summer days riding the Essex and Kent countryside.
Does sound great and as you say easy to loose the license. One of the reasons i ride my very old Speedy.
It's hard to stay retrained! ;)
Great review and loved the audio at the end. I test rode the original Street Triple back in 2007? and nearly chopped my Daytona in for one, but like you I just couldn't fall in love with the bike due to those fugly headlights. I hoped they would eventually get rid of them but each new model just changes them a bit. I hadn't even considered a headlight conversion but it did look much better in that image. I've got a Street Scrambler now which I'm finding a bit slow and I didn't love the Speed Twin when I rode it, so I could see me going for the Triple and swapping out the headlight.
Thanks and yes I was surprised how good that conversion looks. I have the wants now, but not sure I’d want to chip in the Tiger, certainly not at this time of year
I got the RS cause I do track work, if I didn’t do that the S would have been fine. The Nissan 2 pots are actually damn good, and the non adjustable showa feels great also
Yep any of the range is good, I personally I think the extra in the r is worth the extra cost, but when riding it you’d probably not notice
Great honest review. im now looking at changing my 2016 675 non R for a 2018 765 R after watching this :)
Thanks
What a sound 👍🏻
Actually like the single headlight suggestion. Design also looks great.
Yep I think it really changes up the look
Sounds epic and a really well thought out review👍
Thanks Neill
Found small, even though im a 'short rider'. The speed is a broader beast...come on down to get to know one!
Interesting, I thought it was ok. I'd like to swing a leg over a Speed some time....
Finchingfield - thought i recognised that road, definitely nice for a weekend roll of the wheels :-)
yep
I got a second hand Street Triple A2 S recently and had it derestricted. It's awesome. 94 BHP is enough for me.
The cheaper brakes and suspension feel okay on my A2 S, but I don't think that I'm a "discerning" rider just yet.
I have test ridden the RS, it went quicker than I need, plus it also cost quite a bit more. Haven't tried an R.
Why main moan about the new RS are the colours it is available in, apart from cost, one of the reasons I got the A2 S was that it is in bright red.
My only moan about the R and the S are the standard mirrors. Bar ends are much nicer, which fortunately the previous owner of my bike had fitted.
Guess I wouldn't mind a quick shifter some day .
Fantastic twisty roads in Finchingfield!
There sure is!
Great vid Tony, looks & sounds ace 😀
Thanks Bud
Poor 'ol Street Triples and their headlights, no respect 😁 otherwise a brilliant motorbike.
I test rode one, love the sound of a triple.
back in the 80's my roommate had one those Yamaha 850 triples with an aftermarket exhaust it sounded good. I was riding a Kawasaki GPz 550 at the time, it was fast for its size and day.
Yeah it appears I've become 'headlightist' ;)
This or the previous
Speed triple R ? Decisions, decisions... Great review 👍.
A tough call….cheers
Had to check the date of this video - you're a few years late to the party it seems!
I have the RS myself, had it for over 18 months now, and can honestly say it is brilliant on the roads - not a single problem with it; the power and stopping are faultless; but the pogos are pretty harsh - but a proper setup will sort that out.
I had the R for a week when my RS went in for an oil leak, and it's terrible by comparison - those brakes! The lesser Brembos just felt completely wooden, and although I knew they would stop me, they just completely lacked the feel of the M50s.
The R has more torque in the middle, but that seems to be the only benefit it has - that and saving yourself about a grand. But in the real world, you won't notice the difference, and you lose some of the nicer bits that come with the RS as standard - up-rated shock (and forks?), nice bar end mirrors, and the epic M50s.
Given the choice between the two again, the RS will be the choice every time - the lack of torque really isn't an issue to 95% of riders; as most people's arse-dyno won't pick up on this detail - and most people won't mind dancing up and down the box either - certainly if you have ridden a sportsbike in the past.
Well i never said it was a new bike review.....
I have the RS too, glad to hear from someone who's ridden both and our bikes come out top.
TheScortUK I’ve ridden both. Back to back specifically to feel out which I’d prefer and I went with the R. Each to their own but despite the above comment, my arse Dyno easily felt the power difference. The M50’s were awesome but I figure I could spend the money upgrading the brakes on the R and keep the noticeable extra torque.
Most pro road testers actually prefer the R over the RS. The R has better more compliant suspension for the road. The extra power AND torque upto 10,000 rpm can be felt and makes more sense. If you do track days then get the RS otherwise the R is the better bet.
Definitely needs a aftermarket exhaust, and watch out mate for the Old Bill
I can imagine how good that would sound, and yep 👍 deffo
Good review - thanks for that.
Cheers
Pleasant. My next steed I reckon.
👍
Love the review! What turn signals did you use for the front? They look great.
The bike was completely stock
@@mancavemoto Interesting, my 2019 model has different front turn signals but, might be a regional thing.
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Another great video 👍
Thanks Richard
awesome review Thanks
No problem
Great review!!!
Just a thought about the Dyno Graphs/Charts.
What "mode" do you think the bikes were in??
Possible the R was in sport and the RS was in track and this is the cause/reason for the different power curves.
The track mode available on the RS but not the R allows for the larger HP number??
Possible the R and RS would dyno pretty much the same in the same mode??
Just a thought, again great review.
Thanks
Sadly I don't have much in the way of background information for the charts, but I would assume they were all taken from the same mode? Each bike has its own particular 'base' tune and the rider modes tend only to alter traction control, ABS and throttle response. The RS offers more hp, but with the same peak torque.
I love those headlights lol
I don't get it why so many brands make such ugly headlights. There is a kit so you get one round headlight but its 600€. I guess its worth it since it looks way better than the original, but still to pay 600€ to fix design flaws sucks.
Great video
Cheers
mmm ... Yes an awesome motorcycle. But all things considered how does the Yamaha 900 XSR compare to the Street Triple (price, handling, power, overall bang for the value?) in your opinion ?
White Rabbitt I have a 2018 Street Triple R and my buddy has a 2017 FZ-09. Power is similar. Yamaha is a bit more jumpy. Overall the build quality, precision, and incredible handling and stability of the ST R is pretty unbeatable to me.
Interesting bikes to compare, the XSR looks (and i guess is physically bigger). I've always though that they have 'tall' looking engines. Obviously the Yam has less sporty styling and i'm told they are a little more twitchy on the road. The Triumph is 20 or so KG lighter. The XSR is more expensive too.
That thing is a beast to see in the flesh 👍👍😎😎 , and be behind 🙈 😜
yeah, oh and sorry 'bout that ;)
@@mancavemoto what !? Nothing to be sorry about man, I would of done the exact same thing 😜hahahaha
Please review the Triumph street triple R 2020 and street triple S, planning to get one this year, really need your review!
I'll see what I can do
On the headlights I really do agree that they stick out too far forward. It ends up looking like something is missing. On conversions though, I wonder whether someone will come up with a mount for the new Rocket III lights.
Indeed, and probably worth keeping an eye on Motodemic for that
I’m giving a thumbs down to the three thumbs down on this awesome review. I someday hope to have reviews this awesome on my channel some day. I too have the R and absolutely love it!
Thanks, it’s always hard to tell why people thumb down. Maybe they don’t like the ‘product’ maybe they don’t like ‘my review’ sometimes people get triggered because I prefer a particular brand or model that is different to theirs. Who knows? Thanks for your comment, I’ll check out your channel
Views from the Man Cave ty sir
Has it got heated grips Tony ?
Not as standard, but they are an option
Should I trade my 2017 Z900 for one of these…?😮
Good question
100% YES
If you could have only one bike, which would you prefer - the 2019 Street Triple R or the 2019 Speed Twin?
A very tough question, if it was only THOSE two bikes, I would probably lean towards the Triple....
Thanks for your comment, Tony! I know you have a Tiger 800, so I figure this is your top choice for a do-everything bike. I know the Tiger 800 is such a flexible bike, but I’m just mad for the Speed Twin.
I love the look of my T100 Black but it's a 2014 so it only has 65hp. I want something more powerful but love the old school look. Speed twin is a winner. Now if I wanted full power and nothing else then Triple is the way to go.
Aargh, it's like a dagger in the chest. Why did I sell mine, whhyyyyy...... :-(
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