787 Comeback: How Rolls-Royce Solved Its Trent 1000 Issues
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- Ever since it came to light that Rolls-Royce was suffering durability issues on its flagship Trent 1000 engines, the press have had a field day. All too quick to drag this historic British brand through the mud, media voices have been surprisingly quiet on the mammoth effort that has gone into rectifying the problem. Let’s take a look at just what it took for Rolls to solve its biggest crisis.
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Impressed by RR! Not hiding or blaming others, just being transparent and honest and working hard to fix it.
Boeing should learn.
Very well said, Arjan. Cheers to you and RR from the U.S. 💛🙏🏼
In other words...not Boeing ....
@@marlibread Hasty brother Marlon, Boeing doesn’t make engines.
@@Glen.Danielsen They were referring to manufacturing in general. Boeing surely isn't doing well with quality control.
Engineering problems are inevitable when you're working on the cutting edge of novel technologies.
Rolls Royce's handling of this issue is highly commendable!
I hope their customers have been inspired with confidence by their exceptional handling of this issue, and I hope that RR remain as one of the leading producers of aviation technologies for many years to come!
So true.
Worked for RR for 33 years in NDT and special process until ill health forced my retirement. A fantastic company whose focus has always been on its customers and safety. Brilliant company to work for with exceptional manufacturing staff.
@@BeardedBavarianBiker. You would say that being that your American dude. 🇬🇧🤜🇺🇲💥😴
@@BeardedBavarianBiker. They still not fixed the wobbly turbines have they 🤡
Sir i work in NDT in Airbus
Correct. Media likes to point blame, make mistakes look intentional and mention catastrophic events in every story on that product / company. Just see articles on Boeing.
"The media...blissfully ignorant." This is accurate far more often than not.
Sadly, these days, it is more often willfully ignorant.
I see the media as “drama queens.” They are like 14 year old girls … all to quick to spread salacious gossip but never retractions.
@@benchoflemons398 great. What do you make of reporters putting out substantive errors in reporting or just failing to report certain aspects of a story? Curious to learn your thoughts on the profession. Over my lifetime, reporting has moved from delivering the facts of a story into some news articles becoming more an opinion piece than a news report. Do you face pressure to present in a particular way that mirrors the editors views?
@@benchoflemons398 appreciate your perspective. It helps to understand why social media from the big guys necessitates their controlling the message. I agree that it is easier to see and while there is misinformation out there, social media has done a lot to bring things to light. Thanks again.
Rolls-Royce gets targeted because they are top of the tree. Tesla gets the same BS attitude. Could it be that neither of these do very much paid advertising (none in the latter case)
80 years ago, the jet engines struggled to stay together for a few hours at 1,000 lbs thrust. Now we expect engines 100 times bigger to last for thousands of hours longer. What's been done in commercial aviation engines is nothing short of a miracle, teething issues happen, and only through millions of hours from technicians, engineers and designers do these things get solved. Rolls fixed it, but the media loves a punching bag. Remember, flying is safer than sitting on the toilet.
While maintaining high energy efficiency.
"Rolls fixed it, but the media Sux!" - fixed it for you....
More like: we expect an engine to not regularly disintegrate far below it's service life while being used well within its engineered capacity.
@@rickyhall7514 not one of them disintegrated
@@pb6198 he was talking about GE engines lol
Incredible levels of respect for the engineers who conceived these engines and who found and fixed these issues.
Mammoth admiration for RR and our Brit friends across the sea. Rolls did monumental work in doing the difficult Trent fixes. Cheers from the States!
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The Trent 1000 is the only engine for the B787. GE passed on building anything for it because they
were working on the GE90. You wonder how air travel is two years plus into the COVID pandemic.
@@michaelrmurphy2734 Thanks Michael. I always wondered why no General Electric engine for the 787.
@@michaelrmurphy2734 there are 2 engine options for the B787:
RR TRENT 1000 Or GE GENX-1B
media always looking for bad press from anywhere. I'm glad to know simple flying and long haul by simple flying channel because this channel spread good press and deliver bad press in a good way. Keep up the good work!
Yes well done Rolls Royce for fixing another issue for Boeing 🤣
@@deanwood1338 To bad they did not fix the problem for Lockheed took years to fix the RB211. There were 10 engines that I know about that were never put back in service. I have pictures of the Quantas Airbus that had an uncontained Trent failure. The Trent did extensive damage even got into the front spar. Don't be so fast to kick Boeing.
@@jayreiter268 firstly, add some punctuation please. And secondly it’s a joke. Grow a sense of humour. Clearly it’s not Boeing fault the RR had issues.
@@jayreiter268 don't be so fast to kick RR
Media loves to bash RR. Great to see a fair and balanced response!
Media loves to bash every company, except their own.
It's a British thing. We slag our own manufacturing off while admiring other countries products. And yet we have a superiority complex over other nations. Strange people!
@@Hattonbank Add the American media, some of which has GE shares, fanning the American patriotic streak, and this shit is blown out of proportions
Shit yeah, Rolls Royce did their fix well. Nothing is perfect, but their follow-up was perfect.
It tooks years to fix, I wouldn't call that a perfect follow up
@@anteeko Yes, maybe they could have borrowed your magic wand, and fixed it with that and a sprinkle of fairy dust. New technology brings with it new operating problems. These have to be dealt with when they occur, and RR is clearly being judged here by how they managed those problems.
If you have any knowledge concerning the history of aero engines, then you will realise that RR had technical problems with the introduction of the RR Merlin in the late 1930's. These problems were solved, and the reputation of that engine, was unsurpassed during WW2..............
@@anteeko I sat on this for a few days and not replied. As I had to gather my thoughts.
Trying to be friendly. for an engine to be approved it takes many years by the FAA, therefore to get approval after an issue, takes the same or longer, so if you have half a brain, you will hopefully understand that it is not about the actual engineering from the manufacturer to fix the problem mate. (it was probably fixed as soon as they had the data)
Do not bomb Boeing or Rolls Royce for the bureaucracy they have to live in, but please engage your brain before opening your mouth.
I expect you have no engineering experience, but I do.
@@anteeko Smashing the Dunning Kruger affect here I presume.
@@anteeko you're just anti British
the engineering on these engines is utterly incredible, I just can't get my head around how they manage to make such insanely strong blades
People often forget that just 40 years ago RR faced the same challenge with the RB211, so much so that it effectively bankrupted RR and thus crippled sales of the TriStar beyond recovery. However, once it was fully developed it then became one of the most fuel efficient turbofans of that era at roughly 6-10% more efficient than GE’s counterparts.
The Trent series were direct descendants of the RB211 program, noted by its distinct “growl” at full throttle. One of my favourite turbofan designs of all time.
sir stanley hooker came out of retirement if i recall rightly to sort out the mess. straight away he looked at how engineering was being run and was horrified. needless to say having a former engineer in charge soon put things right. (hooker worked on the supercharger for the merlin engines and more)
Apparently, the Rollers were easier to start and more reliable, as well, after the early problems were fixed.
Well done Rolls- Royce !!
@@mrrolandlawrence just finished his book Not much of an engineer. Really interesting
I didn’t forget. The first thing I did was to scan the comments to see if anyone would correctly make this point, and not post something that’s already been said.
Well done, RR! The Trent 1000 is a remarkable piece of engineering and manufacture.
Very interesting. people forget GE has had problems with its GE9X engines, delaying the 777X, Pratt and Witney PW100G geared turbobfan. I wonder why the Trent XWB did not suffer the same issues though it is part of the same family? Rolls Royce needs to make the new Ultrafan works from the box and get it ready for single airline aircraft. Airbus has decided to stick with the Trent series which must mean the have faith in Rolls Royce.
Ignorant is not bliss buddy
The GE9X problems are well documented, the PW1000G not so much, but the trent 1000 definitely was the most high profile. Trent XWB was developed several years after the Trent 1000, it probably incorporated more updated materials in its construction
BRO YOU might be right but GENX HAS ONE GOOD THING IT FAN BE USED AND PROVIDES EXCELLENT PERFOMANCE WITH THE DREAMLINERS THATS WHY MAJOR DREAMLINER USERS SUCH AS ANA AMERICAN AIRLINES QATAR AIRWAYS STILL HAVE TRENT 1000 DREAMLINERS BUT ARE SWITCHING THEM WITH GENERAL ELECTRIC GE9X BUT TRENT IS BACK AND NOW DREAMLINERS SALES WILL ONCE AGAIN TAKEOFF
@@theanimators2.095 I said the GE9X engine has had problems which is not in service with the 777X. My point is all jet engines have pushed the technology to the limit. LEAP by CFM seems to be the most successful so far.
Perhaps Airbus is taking a lesson from how Ryanair and Southwest got good bulk deals in the 737 Max when its reputation was in the toilet. Airbus could've gotten a good bulk agreement from RR due to RR's reputation being damaged.
For the record, I'm in favor of this. If an industry is going to reduce to only a handful of brands with a big percentage having quality issues and the other brands not being able to fill demand; then the customers manipulating it is not only smart, but morally justified.
I hope they gave those manufacturing engineers who discovered the issues and found solutions a nice bonus.
Doubt that but the big sir's will give themselves one.
Proud to be British. From the Merlin to the Trent, RR is world class, and then some.
This is brilliant news for the UK and well done to al at Rolls Royce. Excellent article, we need to hear about the positives in the industry
@@alunesh12345 what is this to do with Rolls Royce?
Great video! I used to work for P&W, and one of my jobs was testing blades for resonance frequencies.
It isn't the first time I hear Rolls Royce having issues with their engines. From the RB211 delays on the Lockheed L-1011 TriStar, to the Trent 900 issues that made the Qantas 32 incident possible, to this in the Trent 1000. The transparency they treated all these problems and solve them afterward makes Rolls Royce a pretty good company (and not one that only worries about money instead of safety, hiding details from pilots and airlines... Am I right, recent Boeing?).
Do you know what video about engines would be really interesting? A story about the CFM-56.
Edit: Also, a fact about Rolls Royce: Their engines were mounted in the back of every single Concorde.
The Concorde engines roots where Bristol Siddeley, The engine the Olympus from the Vulcan with re- heat added. Further developed by Rolls Royce. See.on Wikipedia en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_Olympus_variants
RR and Concorde were government projects. There’s no significance besides that they were chosen by the British government for a government controlled project.
@@anthonywilson4873 also was supposed to be used in tsr2 until it was cancelled
And their engines are mounted on every a350s
The RB11 turned out to be a great engine in the end
Great effort and great outcome for RR and the Trent. Thank you for such such a possitive video.
Propaganda BS by RR
What a nice and gentleman-like company culture, thank all his team mates
Always fills me with confidence when I'm on board an aircraft fitted with Rolls Royce engines!!
Feels luxurious too
Some of your videos like this one clearly require a lot of source material, preparation, editing ... we watch them like it was normal, but it certainly isn't your channel is amazing, be sure of that.
I've flown a few of the individual aircraft shown in this video totalling about 3000hrs with the Trent 1000 engines. As a pilot I really enjoyed the Trent 1000s.
Excellent report on excellent speedy rectification modification program by RR on existing Trent 1000 engines. I am impressed with RR great achievements as I had the honor & pleasure of working on RB211 engines decades ago.
This news is too positive and too much of a well-deserved tribute to highly-skilled specialists in solving an immensely difficult set of problems to ever warrant attention by the mainstream media.
Thanks to outlets such as Long Haul by Simple Flying, we get a chance to hear the good news.
Good to see a positive outcome for RR
Tear down, and work these engines/blades pretty much every other day as an airline mechanic, (engine shop). Pretty good product and fantastic engineering support by RR.
At 7:25 there's a casual clip of CNC machining a compressor blade inside the assembled engine... I think this deserves its own video!
A measure of any organisation is not how they perform in normal times but how they face and deal with a crisis.
Excellent explanation video… superb engineering by Rolls Royce. This problem even though extremely expensive to fix, will make RR engines of the future superior
Definitely will help guide their future engine designs. Only too bad this engine had to be REDESIGNED to be sound. And now we are left to see how long the upgraded parts will last as well as the effects on performance. There is a reason they designed the original engine inner blades with that particular alloy. The fact that the had to change the composition entirely and then coat it with a different protective layer would definitely have impacts on cost, and even performance. But what do I know? They could have designed it with the right blades to begin with, right?
Absolutely fascinating video, thanks 👍
Thanks for the hard work in resolving the problem !
this narrative sounds like a hundred percent Rolls-Royce PR
There is a lot of technical confusion in this video. It seems that the "9 London buses" comment relates to the fan blades. The single-crystal turbine blades (a technology first perfected by Pratt & Whitney) are in a completely different part of the engine doing a completely different job.
Jet engines are complex, and Rolls is not the only company to face early problems (look at the Pratt & Whitney PW1000G). Glad to hear that they've taken care of it.
Yes the buses were a stupid analogy, I would have said 20 African elephants myself as the dimwit viewers (they assume we all are) can easily imagine that ............ or not.
@@gegwen7440 It’s less the weight and more that he seemed to confuse turbine blades for fan blades.
Yeah I also always chuckle at these kind of stupid analogies, like weight x times a Jumbo Jet etc. for one single reason : are we talking about a empty bus or a fully laden one ? Cause the weight is probably going to go from one unit to the double of the same, if not more, when loaded with their certified load capacity.
Thanks for a comprehensive yet understandable discussion of the measures Rolls Royce took to overcome problems within their Trent 1000 engine.
Excellent work! Well done RR!!
RR is building engines that are beyond state of the art. It is absolutely unsurprising that problems occur. The fact that they dig in and fix their issues is truly remarkable. Ask the Russians how their efforts to build higher performance jet engines are going.
That was great to see, thank you!
Damn! Amazing video excellent reporting something you don’t see in main stream news.
Great to see Roll-Royce stepping up to plate with such transparency as with brilliant engineering work.
Job well done.
Cheers 🇨🇦
Wow, really complex engineering. How much did it cost to get to zero AOG?
Major props to Rolls-Royce I've been quite critical of their Trent 900 engine and it sounds like they have done a very good job of fixing it. Have to give credit where credit is due.
This whole thing is absolutely amazing , can’t begin to wrap my mind around it . Thank you !
Beautiful to note the resonance issues !!! The weird 'rattling' effect was audibel ! Even the 'faster' air near the fuselage would cause a temptation for a rotary pulsing on the fan blades per each revolution of the large front fan.
"Press had a field day, dragging this historic British brand through the mud" The intro just killed me hahahaha
Worked as a laser engineer with Metal Improvement Company (part of Curtiss Wright). We laser peened the fan blades and roots. This improved tensile strength by 50%. Done on the 500,700,800 and 1000. There is a plant in Singapore as well. Don’t know if Barnoldswick has closed yet. Our plant was in Earby.
Nice explained 👍
Oh the irony ! Using Norwegian Dreamliner images when Norwegian has effectively been bankrupted by the Trent 1000 issues combined with the 737 Max groundings.
Norwegian no longer has any Dreamliner or Max aircraft.
Didn`t RR supply replacements? Wasn`t it other factors that bankrupted Norwegian?
@@edwardwilcox6606 I thought they ran out of cash due to a too rapid expansion of their fleet and network. They tried to expand too fast instead of doing it incrementally as per Ryanair Easy Jet and others. A budget airline going long haul has rarely succeeded. Then came Covid.
@@Hattonbank The RR issues on the 787 gave them major issues.. and a lot of wet leasing had to be arranged at extra cost and a lesser travel experience for the passengers..
Great video and great to hear the story of this recovery. I think it’s a shame that RR engines cannot be specified for rhe 777X instead of GE
Thanks for reporting positive news! Congratulations to RR! Please continue showing appreciation to things done right!
Bravo no BS just hard work and excellent engineering reworking
bravo to RR for managing, owning and rectifying this issue like the absolute Pros. that they are!!! However, I gotta say it feels like you guys at Simple Flying took this issue a little personally. I can understand, as RR is on your "Home Team". just interesting to see you guys get a little ruffled 'round the collar. just an observation
True, but the media is to blame for sensationalism. Any product can have design defects as they are created by humans, it’s the way any issues are handled should be the point of interest and not simply product bashing. If RR failed to acknowledge the problem and tried to brush it under the carpet as many companies do then that would have been a story, however from day one they handled it professionally (as one would expect).
Congratulations Rolls Royce.
I have never heard a PR department mitigate a metallurgy failure and design incompetence quite so well. Let alone purveying the months that airlines were unable to use their aircraft as a quick response.
There was no 'failure' let alone 'incompetence' as the video clearly demonstrated. The issues were exceptional and RR used them to make the Trent 1000 an even better engine.
To show how exceptional this was no other aircraft using other versions of the Trent engine of any description has had ANY problems since first introduced in 1989. And these are:
Trent 600 - Airbus A330
Trent 7000 - Airbus A330neo (Sole engine)
Trent 500 - Airbus A340-500 and 600
Trent XWB - Airbus A350 (Sole engine)
Trent 900 - Airbus A380
Trent 800 - Boeing 777
The Trent 1000 was and is only used in the Boeing 787.
@@1chish Tsch. GEnx 60% of 787 sales. Trent 1000 40% of 787 sales.
GEnx 15% better fuel economy.
GEnx Quieter.
GEnx longer time between services.
GEnx cheaper.
Now why do you think Airlines choose GEnx.
@@brianarnold3250 Not sure why you felt the need to bring GE into this as it has nothing to do with your initial comment let alone my reply. Bit of MURICAAA going on Brian? What a shame.
Airlines select GE for the same reasons they choose the Trent. Money. I would suggest that given the issues GE has with the 777X engine (as sole supplier) and its only commercial success (CFM) is limited by it partnership then it will be discounting for volume sales. RR does not have that problem as it is the sole supplier on A350, A330neo and has a substantial order book with other aircraft.
But you use some rather vague data:
1. The data I have seen from aerospace media puts the split at more like 50 / 50 given recent sales orders. I suspect you are using 2019 data. But the fact the airlines are still ordering Trent powered 787s is a huge achievement given Boeing is an American aircraft manufacturer which has very close commercial arrangements with GE. Like they swap Chief Execs!
2. That 15% figure you quote is published by GE compared to its own CF6 engine NOT the Trent. Its like saying the Trent powered 787 is 20% more efficient than the 767. Which it is but its a pointless comparison.
3. Noise is a subjective opinion and not factual.
4. Given RR sell engines on a 'pay per hour' basis servicing intervals is not a cost issue for airlines. Apart from which RR has real time monitoring on every engine in service and can change servicing depending on real time data. THIS was what first alerted RR top the blade issues on Trent 1000 engines. GE does not have this facility.
5. You have no idea what any engine sells for. But you at least agree with my supposition GE are discounting against RR. Which is a weakness as it loses profits.
6. Airlines are choosing BOTH engines. Indeed Singapore as the launch customer for the 787-10 ordered Trent 1000 engines.
The issue that you haven't mentioned is that Boeing only have 480 orders left to fill and only sold a nett 11 since 2019.
@@1chish not sure why you feel the need to jump to the defence of other companies unless you're biased
@@ant2312 'other companies'? Eh?
I am not defending anyone or anything. I was correcting the biased inaccuracy peddled above.
Stating facts is NOT 'bias' or 'defence'. Bias is when people infer something that isn't true because it suits an agenda. As you so eloquently showed.
Good piece of work.
this should be a textbook case of how a PR script should not be written.
Well done, Rolls-Royce!
Proud to say that I’m a RR shareholder.
The fan blades are not made as single crystal turbine blades, they’re SPF/DB manufactured at Rolls-Royce Barnoldswick, I inspected them for 23 years
A truly fascinating video. Easily one of your best IMO.
Helll of a company, this is how perfection looks like
Well done RR. 👏
Interesting video. Thank you. Not really sure about the sulfidation corrosion issue as all engines need to deal with this.
The narration in this video is indistinguishable from a promotional piece issued by RR itself. There are so many superlatives that it was surely co-written by RR.
Was it factually incorrect?
No.
I guess praise for exceptional achievement is frowned on in your part of the world?
Oh wow. That's amazing
I'm sure Norwegian appreciated all the efforts that Rolls-Royce made.....
I was about to make the same sarcastic comment myself LMAO
Did any Norwegian or indeed any 787 aircraft with the Trent 1000 crash? No. The issue was found during normal inspections and replacement engines supplied at RR's cost.
So go shove your sarcasm Luke.
@@1chish Here's more sarcasm: the 787 is so good that there was never any need to stop 787 deliveries and no airline anywhere publicly said that they are no buying any RR engines for any airplane... None of this ever happened here in the real world... lol
@@1chish - One engine had a severe damage out of Rome. RR almost bankrupted Norwegian, with a lot of AOG issues..
@@Luke_Go Well it suits you as sarcasm is the lowest form of wit Luke.
Meanwhile IN the real world 787 deliveries have been stopped because of fuselage abutment and delamination issues, FAA groundings and FOD in the wings. Its so bad airlines are refusing deliveries from Charleston.
And guess which engines Singapore, the launch customer for the 787-10, is using? Well lets just say it ain't the GE ones!
Love their Engines from the days of the Concorde and L-1011’s!
L1011 😍
Rolls Royce is a great company with something most don't have... Honesty and dedication to quality.
BMW Group only licensed the rights to the Rolls-Royce name and logo from Rolls-Royce Holdings plc while acquiring the rights of Spirit of Ecstacy and grille design from Volkswagen AG for the automotive products.
_Rolls-Royce Holdings plc_ is aerospace and defence company in the UK.
_Rolls-Royce Deutschland_ is the aeronautical engineering company in Germany after BMW sold all of its shares.
_Rolls-Royce Motor Cars_ is the subsidary of BMW Group that builds the automobiles.
I just looked up what you guys said, I feel so dumb... Your right, the first way I checked with Google, Google told me I was right. Well then UK! KEEP ON BEING SO DANG ON FINE
@Harry Old Its you that's confused, or pretending to be confused and using it as an excuse to issue false information, as has been explained under your comment by others..........
Odd how other engine manufacturers haven't had to face pollutant triggered defects in their 'expertly crafted' blades.
From fan blades to shroud segments to turbine blades...expertly crafted...
Hmm🤔 don't think about it. Too much worry makes the mass public a frightened group of chaotic sheeple.
Have flown 787 across pond a few times and love it as a plane. I like to sit where I can see those wings lift. I especially like to see RR logos on the engines.
The nickel ally has a melt start point at 1326'C. So has to stay well below this at around 1290 to 1300. RR did a lot of work to correct its issues. All engine manufacturers have issues but RR have an excellent engineering and tech teams
I always look to see what is strapped to the wings and if it says RR I know I am in good hands. And if the plane is an Airbus and not a Boeing that is even better.
a few years back.. engineers warned about rushing the trent to market as was not ready. so managers decided it was ready. then problems... then the reality if not fixed RR would go bankrupt. engineers were later asked for their opinions. Company saved. Hmmm wonder if there are lessons to be learned there?
OMG is the issue resolved .That's so cool
Delays mean thorough testing which RR didnt do to rush the engine out the door. The customers did the testing for RR and found problems...'polluted environments'
70’s style voiceover could do with a bit of a more contemporary restyling and the content could be compressed into a shorter time. Interesting material though.
It's interesting that for a long time RR has boasted on its official social media accounts how its Trent XWB has helped the A350 become the world's best airliner, while not mentioning how the Trent 1000's disastrous reliability has caused severe damage to the 787's reputation. Interesting how two engine variants from the same family have done the complete opposite to two rival aircraft.
Yes very interesting.
But no conspiracies were found in these events.
Interesting comment. A couple of points I'd like to add here. Firstly the Trent 1000 and the XWB are two completely different beasts in design as the two aircraft they run on are two completely different functioning aircraft, for example low and high power settings are very different in order to suit, one aircraft is more electrically based thus requiring greater electrical generation at reduced impact to thrust power output and fuel usage and the other more conventional in operation as to starting and generation on the ground and in the air, albeit the basics of air flow and combustion through the engines is basically the same. Secondly the manufacture of the airframe of the 787 has had its issues in the early days and has had to evolve its techniques/designs just like RR. Also the Trent 1000 is not the sole engine powering the Dreamliner and therefore not the only contributing factor to reputation. However the media do like to poke at RR when they get chance and not other manufactures. All in all from the start it has been a fantastic effort by all companies involved to get the Dreamliner and the A350 to where it is today and more focus should be put on the achievements of these engineers/teams/companies working together to overcome these issues for the benefit of us all instead of looking for negativity and conspiracies where none exist. Now, time for a cup of tea, and fly safe :-)
@@1chish To be fair I think it's possible it's not entirely a coincidence, on the basis that the two airframers have a very different commercial approach, development method and way of treating their suppliers. So not a conspiracy but possibly consequential. i.e. the development of T1K was rushed (by the customer) and tried to reinvent the wheel; XWB not so much, it's an evolved design on a generous timescale. Airbus works with their suppliers not against them and it delivers results, the opposite can be said for Boeing.
@@enemyofthestatewearein7945 I have no issue with coincidences and they are just historical fact plus you are correct in your assessment of how the two manufacturers operate. For sure something particular to the operation / design of the Trent 1000 was happening but RR found it and corrected it. While the Trent XWB has performed flawlessly.
@@1chish What would you say about the Trent 1000 Ten upgrade and the Trent 7000? Rolls Royce took the XWB and scaled it down to create these new variants.
Alright, Simple Flying. You guys know I love your channel. I truly feel it's one of the best on UA-cam. But I have to criticize this video. It plays like a Rolls Royce PR piece and talking about how the media didn't cover things fairly sounds Fox News-ish. It also led to some toxic comments in what is usually a very positive comments section. And don't forget- You ARE the media.
You criticise the channel because of its positivity, but without contradicting one fact contained within it. Your comment sounds like 'sour grapes' to me...............
@@artrandy I don't need to contradict anything. I said the overall video, not specific parts. Your reading comprehension is bad and you should stop embarrassing yourself.
@@StaticImage I communicate for a living, and "Your reading comprehension is bad", is not good grammar at all. Better to have said: 'Your comprehension of written English is bad', lol. And of course you don't need to substantiate your point, because you don't have a point, buddy. As I said, sour grapes...........
@@artrandy Trying to sound smart, are we? We all communicate for a living. It's literally what language is all about. It's how we've founded society and grown as a species. Now, if you're trying to tell me that you're the undisputed master of the written English language, I will have to call you a liar. You are no scholar. It is easy to tell by your phraseology and syntax. Your sentences are fragmented, short, and they lack any substantiality or context. It's as if they've been scribbled by a pseudo-intellectual hammering away at keys, frantically yearning for the solace of having won a debate with an individual of the lower persuasion. In reality, your blatherskite and clishmaclaver do nothing but accentuate your failing endeavor of being the one which understands the codified rules of our aforementioned spoken- and written- language.
Furthermore, one who uses phrases such as "lol" and ends a fragmented piece of text with an absurd amount of full stops, not even bothering to use the universally accepted ellipses; well, my friend, that says more than any words I could cobble together.
To summarize, just be quiet. And stop trying to be the gatekeeper of f****ng standard language. "Your reading comprehension" is a full sentence. You're trying to put yourself on a pedestal by throwing in the "of the English language" bit is silly, because *of course it's about the written English language, as we're writing in English. You dolt. Oh, and learn the difference between commas and apostrophes. You look ridiculous. Weirdo.
@@StaticImage bloody hell
That’s reassuring! I’m getting on a Dreamliner in a fortnight, And I feel better already! 🙏👍👍🤪
Rolls-Royce next generation ultrafan engines should win the contract for Boeing NMA.
I've been a GE fan for decades. But I'll hand it to the chaps at Rollers, they rose to the occasion and engineered the *_hell_* out of this! BZ!
Of course I'm no rocket scientist, but how they determined these problems is way beyond my wildest imagination!
Puts passenger peoples service expectations about economy meals and flying in general into perspective.
Well done RR
Now that makes you proud to be involved in that. RR holding the flag. Fantastic
Nice Rolls Royce Trent 1000
What a surprise that the media didn't cover off this successful recovery...
RR accepted responsibility that's how they do business and fixed the problem without blaming anyone. upgrading their equipment and trained personnel to meet the demand of their business.
RR were open and transparent from the start of this problem; VERY different corporate attitude than Boeing !!!!
FINALLY FINALLY FINALLY. 787 is getting of the night mare
RR we need the scaled version of the Trent 1000 and XWB for single isle jet for A320 family
Ironically, BMW had the same issue with Nikasil coating in its M60 V8 engines produced from 1992 to 1996. The BMW engineers didn't anticipate the higher sulfuric content in the US, UK, and South America causing the damages to the Nikasil coating in the cylinder bores. BMW ended up replacing many of M60 V8 engines under warranty and switching from Nikasil to Alusil.
I never heard that BMW had that problem, but we had plenty of publicity of the Jaguar V8 which had the same problem with fuel additives during its first few years of production.
@@Hattonbank That’s because BMW are German and therefore don’t make mistakes whereas Jaguar were British and any problem was blown up out of all proportion by all the Media. As usual making a disaster out of a crisis.
A little too late though. Their now down to 30% market share on the 787 engine market despite having been the launch engine on all 3 variants. Only 100 or so orders are left in the backlog without a chosen engine and more than half are likely to chose GEnX
True. Air New Zealand and ANA, for example, received their initial fleet of 787s with the RR engines. However, after these issues, when they came to buying more 787s, they switched to GE engines. Happy that RR resolved the issues but the headache it caused for airlines couldn't be ignored.
Rolls Royce has its future reputation to protect. It can carry forward what has been learnt to future projects. This is what great engineering companies should do.
The GE, by any measure, is a superior engine.
@@eyebok Actually there is no such engine as a 'GE'. Please try to be more specific.
Great summary and Video!
But who made this Animation at 1:03? RR??? Why is it wrong?! Did no one spotted that?
You have to admire Rolls Royce being able to produce these triple spool engines which cannot be an easy route to take but seems a more optimal solution treating the 2 compressor stages differently. What other companies do this? I understand in the same way he sorted the Merlin supercharging they had to get haul the late great Stanley Hooker out of retirement to fix the complexities of the RB211 engine, which bankrupted the company but thankfully it rose again from the ashes.
Of course they fixed the aog problem in September 2020. Nothing was flying! Just today. A matter of hours after this video was posted. An air europa 787 had a rolls Royce trent shut down in flight. The problem is no where close to being fixed!!
Was the shutdown traced back to one of the issues covered in this video?
I can find no record of such a shut down. Can you provide links and sources please?
I have my doubts because no Trent 1000 has just 'shut down' due to the issues described.
@@rodgerq still waiting on report
The Press always jumps on a problem but never talks about the fix! You have to force them to retract any bad comments !
No doubt an incredible feat of engineering, but was this script written by RR’s marketing department?
Norwegian better withdraw the part of their lawsuit against Boeing where they blame Boeing for the RR Trent 1000 problems that got resolved.
trolling here too I see
Agreed Arjan. Well done to Rolls Royce.
Other companies should take note
R&R ignored it's own engineers on the engine issues. Zero pity.
They solved the problem, so they don't need yours or anybody else's pity............