Leader Spotlight: Suleiman the Magnificent | Civilization VI: Leader Pass
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- Опубліковано 11 гру 2022
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*insert comment about how these videos should show the leaders’ abilities*
I think the leader abilities are already leaked in r/Civ
@@gw_m2oo665 When they let the leaks happen again and again, then they could officially announce the abilities as well. Or they should reconsider their safety measures. This is getting ridiculous.
@@gw_m2oo665 Do you have a link?
Well I think it’s just a little sneak peek
That would be /magnificent/
Süleyman the tanned.
Why is he so dark? Suleiman was mostly slavic. Basil was similar or most likely darker than him. Western-eastern mentality.
He is the leader of Argentina
This has nothing to do with him being mostly “slavic” cuz Turks also don’t look dark.
@@anilkarakaya9343 haa kanka öyle mi olmuş
Suleiman was mostly Turkic not Slavic. And also yes he must be white not Black lol what is this Askia of Songhai?? Hell nah
@@Error_-xn7po your argument is pointless indeed, you can put turks' skin tone complex aside. Suleiman was slav hence he wasnt dark. Turkic-turkish, that mess is unrelated.
Hello, an actual Turkish person here. The dude looks more like an Indian noble than any sultan from the House of Osman. The actual Suleyman had -according to descriptions from the era fair hair and blue eyes. Hope it gets fixed -like they did to Tamar.
Genetically speaking,
from his father side, Selim I, it has Serb & Pontic Greek genetics.
from his mother side, Hafsa Sultan, is a Crimean.
In Civilization VI initial release its decent.
Although you know, in reality he's blue eyed & fair haired.
@@ImadudeenAugustSarvaHusayn Even the initial depiction was off - he was portrayed with a darker skin tone, and I remember there were lots of complaints. Apparently they are purposefully misrepresenting him and decided to make him look completely Indian/Arabian this time.
I guess their mission is accomplished... Hi "Suleiman the Netflix adaptation".
Hint for Firaxis: In Civ 7, how about you make some leaders transgender as well? I'm sure that will fill your quota of diverse leaders!
@@teamsmesh7139 Just like they nerfed Ottomans tech tree in Age of Empires 2 & IV.
@@teamsmesh7139 I mean, Elagabalus wasn't a great ruler but she exemplifies how trans people and thus, even though extremely rare, trans rulers have been a thing in history. I don't like how Suleiman's represented here either, from a historical accuracy perspective, but you don't have to bring the outdated, non-existent gay agenda bullshit to the discussion. You're making the rightfully made arguments look stupid.
@@ImadudeenAugustSarvaHusayn this has nothing to do with these peoples. Us Turks don’t look like Indians.
Why he is black? Why did you guys changed his skin? It is far from real!
FIraxis is an American company. The only good reason i can think of that is that the designer was a bit ignorant about Turkish appearences and made Suleiman dark as an Arab. (Like, Suleiman can look even darker in here than Saladin, who is a Kurd)
@@inspector_beyond do you really think they are that ignorant when they put so much effort into properly representing each culture, especially through their music?
@@Crowbar Who knows? Geoff Knorr is a professional in his music craft, so having a research forhim is very important. While the designer could look for portraits of Suleiman but dont recognize the fact that Suleiman even by normal Turkish standarts could not be as dark as an Arab, considering his mother, by popular theory, was a Tatar from Crimea and his father is also a mix of some very non-middle-eastern genetics. Aka Artist just looked through portraits, found some references and created a design without thinking o the Turkish genetic intricacies.
@@inspector_beyond yeah, but that is too simple. I would give the designers the benefit of the doubt until I hear their explanation. They are normally good at what they do. Also I think the normal Suleiman in the game looks fine, but this one really does look too dark. There are turks that have dark skin though and some turks should chill the fuck out and don't get insta butthurt when turks are depicted with dark skin, there are plenty of turks with dark skin. Turks are one of the most diverse groups. There are asian looking turks and european looking turks.
@@inspector_beyond Actually, i shouldn't have surprised. They used a Turkish folk song for the Arabic theme. Year is 2023 and fucking Americans still don't know the differances between a Turk and a Arab/Persian/Hındı or any other nation
They made him indian?? 💀💀💀
Yeah he has a turban
Actually neither Suleiman's father or mother were black, they both had Eastern European origin, as I remembered. I wonder why his skin tone is like Mansa Musa? Shouldn't it have been more like Matthias Corvinus?
Wait why is he getting a darker complexion compared to the original one?
why is he so dark now. suleiman was pretty pale
Because of woke minority quotas
@@miliba yeah they are becoming racist towards turks while filling minority quotas. it is ridiculous.
so ottomans are african @@miliba
@@batu3507
According to Civ
turks are karaboğa@@miliba
Every single Ottoman Sultan in history has had a portrait drawn of them. If you did just a few minutes worth of research, you would see this: Even the one with the darkest complexion, looks very much Caucasian.
It's really disrespectful and ignorant to portray an Ottoman Sultan looking like a Arab with a dark complexion.
hes indian or somethin here
Suleiman! what have they done to you? Oh no! lol
Why is he so dark skinned now seriously?
Firaxis, Suleiman isn't dark skinned, please fix it, he looks Indian here.
You even made Nader Shah lighter than him
Also, white Mansa Musa would be great maybe next DLC you gonna make that happen
Please someone explain why he is look like arabian man? Why he has dark skin?? Did you make any research about how Suleiman looks like Firaxis?????????
Lord of Bangladesh.
He is even darker than them lol. Appearently African harem guards in the civ universe werent eunuchs.
These leader packs have only made me realize how much I miss leaders having scenery. Like sitting on thrones, in offices, or even on horseback. It made them seem more alive in their element. Now it's like they wheel out a painting to stand in front of before addressing you, lol.
I just wish that their clothes would change as their civ reaches new ages, like it did in Civ 3. It would increase the number of looks each one has and give an easy way to track their scientific/cultural progress
@@KanLuxiang you really want to see naked Peter the great standing next to a cave?
I don’t understand but I think the team make him become black instead of his original skin color
They're racebending the leaders completely. Suleiman looks indian and Tokugawa looks mexican..
bro this aint a netflixs movie why he is black or indian or something didnt anyone of dev team saw his portraits before 💀💀😫
@@ulegann9614 indeed this is just like a fiction instead where he live out under sun rather stay inside
They literally made him more black than the original varient
"The original is younger, only recently left his scholarly pursuits and made sultan. Between that and this version, he had a lot of luxury and free time, so he frequently enjoyed the beatiful beaches of Anatolia and got a sweet tan" - Trust me bro
@@korneltakacs3692 Tan is one thing and being as dark as Arabs - the other.
Where is Attila the Hun, William the Conqueror, Alaric I of Gothia, Pharaoh Kamose, Ramsesses III, Piye, Taharqa, Árpád of Hungary, Mahmud Ghazni of the Ghaznavid empire, Shapur I of Parthia, Hamilcar Barca of Carthage, Justinian, Diocletian, Theodoros Kolokotronis for modern Greece, Napoleon, Giuseppe Garibaldi, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, Toussaint Louveture of Haiti, Tarik Ibn Zayid of Spain, etc.
Lastly why have their been no Hittite leaders like Muwatali in this game yet?
Give me Kadmos of Thebes as a mythical leader and Theseus for Athens.
There is a whole bunch of leaders that should have been in this game by now!!
@@Userkaf_II Man at this point just make your own video game :l
@ShezmuOperative Also africa was totally shafted, only Menelik II was the only leader to not be medieval or back.
Great Leaders like Axmed Gurey (Renaissance era somalia), Abd Al-Qadir (Industrial era Algeria), and Gamal Abdel Nasser (Cold war era Egypt) are nowhere to be seen.
I don't wanna play zulus, I wanna play gunpowder africa.
Is Sultan Suleiman a black sultan? A great disrespect to the Sultan. Turks never, ever had a black complexion. Turks are a race from North Asia. His father is Yavuz and his mother Ayşe Hatun in Turkish.
Ok but being black is not a disgrace
His mother was Ayşe Hafsa not Ayşe Hatun.
@@gamechanger8908 sonraki eşinin de adı Ayşe işte kardeşim bunun ne önemi var yav :D
@@SubliminalFeels Being black isn't a disgrace, but it is disgrace*ful* to falsely depict a historic figure like that. It would be just as disrespectful to depict Anna Nzinga as white.
@@MrJoeyWheeler True
Omg thats so nice! A third indian leader! Had enough of ghandi and chandragupta. Thank you firaxis [NOT]
abi yapma gülesim geliyor qklmwemkqwmkle-
Looks like a Netflix adaptation
bro this aint a netflixs movie why he is black or indian or something didnt anyone of dev team saw his portraits before 💀💀😫
Hey Firaxis, why you thought Suleyman was black? Dont you have access to internet? There is even portraits of him painted by Titian & Gentile Bellini. You could at least made some research about this.
They made
They made my sultan indian 💀
Turkish people have ancestry in Central Asia and have moved towards Europe in which they started to look more and more Caucasian. And especially the Ottoman royal family is very European looking. Mostly because almost all of them were children of European princesses or other European woman from the harem.
So, the Ottoman royal family is much more European looking from the average Turk and Turks are pretty much Caucasian looking in the first place. So why does he have a darker skin tone here? It does make any sense.Weird design. He seems to wear silk, which Ottoman sultans almost never did. Also it looks like a real turban he's wearing, Ottoman sultans wore "kavuk", a headgear resembles a turban, but it's not. He was a fair haired, green eyed gentleman...
they made
those mfs really made my sultan black 💀💀😭
@@ulegann9614 lol
😂😂😂😂CEY TURK
I mean, the outfit is nice, but why on earth did they decide to go with a race-lift? They didn't even need to look far, Civ6 already portrayed him with decent accuracy before, and they couldn't have not seen that version, because he's clearly using the exact same voice lines.
I mean, I could see a reasoning for multiple versions of the same leader having different complexions to portray how little we know of how said leader look, especially if there are conflicting accounts it'd be a pretty cool way to acknowledge them, but this isn't the case for Suleiman. We have not only descriptions and Islamic miniature art, but multiple portraits of the guy, *and* we know for a fact that he had Crimean and Serbian ancestry along with the Greco-Turkic ancestry most Anatolian Turks have by default.
He got his onion hat back! This is an epic moment!
Where is Attila the Hun, William the Conqueror, Alaric I of Gothia, Pharaoh Kamose, Ramsesses III, Piye, Taharqa, Árpád of Hungary, Mahmud Ghazni of the Ghaznavid empire, Shapur I of Parthia, Hamilcar Barca of Carthage, Justinian, Diocletian, Theodoros Kolokotronis for modern Greece, Napoleon, Giuseppe Garibaldi, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, Toussaint Louveture of Haiti, Tarik Ibn Zayid of Spain, etc.
Lastly why have their been no Hittite leaders like Muwatali in this game yet?
Give me Kadmos of Thebes as a mythical leader and Theseus for Athens.
There is a whole bunch of leaders that should have been in this game by now!!
@@Userkaf_II What about Karl XII
@@Userkaf_II You know, they don't have to put every single leader in history in there. Also, Hamilcar wasn't a leader, but a general. And was Tarik Ibn Zayid conquered Spain, he wasn't a great leader of it. Having him rule Spain would be like having Victoria rule Zululand or Hitler rule Poland.
This is supposed to be military focused Suleiman but instead he wears a chichek helmet, he wears an even more administrative cloth and his bonuses are also worse far war.
@@Sascha5
This right here is a prime example of someone who is clueless as to what they're talking about...
My point was that they should include some new leaders not add every leader from history, not sure how you misinterpreted my post to think that's what I was implying...
Secondly, Hamilcar was absolutely a leader of Carthage, he came from the Barcid family of ruling oligarchs over Carthage, he and Hannibal were both generals who lead Carthage during the first and second Punic War, that makes him a leader dummy.
Tarik Ibn Zayid is the man responsible for conquering Spain and bringing Spain under Umayyad control. That is a pretty significant event in history that he should be a leader in Civ 6.
I didn't see you mention anything about his reign specifically indicating he wasn't a good leader, you just somehow arbitrarily decided he wasn't one.
Your comparison to Hitler ruling Poland and Victoria Zululand is the dumbest thing I've ever read... While southern Spain initially was part of the Umayyad Caliphate, it come to be ruled independently by several Muslim kingdoms for eight-hundred years before the last Muslims of Spain were expelled, so technically that is not like Hitler ruling Poland which was part of German territory: Poland never independently governed itself from Germany during the Nazi regime, fracturing under different German generals, like Alexander's empire did or the Muslim Caliphates did, Poland remained part of the Germany's territories until it's collapse. Totally different scenario buddy.
Every leader I mentioned is significant for some reason or another historically.
Now shut up and stop trying to sound extra smart.
Looks like not all the Black Eunuchs in the harem were really eunuchs...
Yes black sure he was
Winning the Domination Victory as Suleiman would be magnificent idea since Gathering Storm.
İndian Suleiman is great. I am waiting for the japanese Cleopatra
They changed his design from Arabic looking to indian looking maybe some day they will get it right
Bro gained the N word pass 💀
@LiftingXGaming1995🇹🇷 I looked them up but there aren’t very many of them
@LiftingXGaming1995🇹🇷 that is not how that works. Be safe
They actually blackwashed Suleiman......
Lemme guess, this one doesn't have Ibrahim because he's been executed?
bro this aint a netflix movie why he is black or indian or something didnt anyone from dev team saw his portraits before 💀💀😫
Civ VI the Netflix adaptation
wtf he is not suleiman
You have to fix his skin color. He is LIGHTER than you did
we Turks are not black??
Turks in all periods didn't have the same look anyway...
The Oghüz, Seljuk and Osmanli were all a bit different.
@@user-pb6ox1zb4p We Turks do not discriminate people based on skin color. I'm just saying that we are not like that in GENERAL. No one is going in and out of you.
Is Sultan Suleiman a black sultan? A great disrespect to the Sultan. Turks never, ever had a black complexion. Turks are a race from North Asia. His father is Yavuz and His mother Ayşe Hatun in Turkish.
@@Userkaf_II let me guess.. you are greek right? Because the case here is not that we look different over time. The problem here is that if this figure is a little more black he could be the brother of mansa musa. So spare us with "tHeY LooKeD DiffEReNt anyWAy"
@@Userkaf_II selçuklu osmanlı zaten aynı grup ikiside oğuz
ben sarışın mavi gözlüyüm benim dedemin annesi ve bütün kardeşleri gözleri çekikti japon gibi çok çekikti hemde resimlerde benim ağabeyimin sakalları kızıl gözleri yeşil tama bütün asya stepleri birbirinin aynı değil ama en kalabalık grupar olan oğuzlar tatarlar ve kıpçaklar arasında siyahi bulman imkansıza yakın kıvırcık saç bile bulamazsın
Suleiman the Netflix
Doesn't matter if you're skinny
Doesn't matter if you're fat
You can dress up like a sultan
In your onion head hat
Inspiring
We are building a religion
We are making a brand
We're the only ones to turn to
When your castles turn to sand
A dark skinned Slavic descent? C'mon @firaxis!
Netflix version of Suleiman🤣
I can not believe that I am saying this but enough is enough. As Turkish people, we are light skinned. Our skin color is way lighter than average. In such a situation, why would you portrait an Ottoman Sultan like this?
Why would you change the ethnicity of a historical figure? I can understand changing a fantasy character’s ethnicity and that’s fine, but this? This shouldn’t be done and must be fixed to be historically accurate.
just noticed, the leaders in the end, thats ramses for egypt!
They've announced all the leaders on the civ website already if you wanna check that out
Bro got the pass now 💀
HOLLLY 💀💀💀💀
I think you can see from the comments Sulieman here is way too dark to be believed and we need this shit on console.
You had a great video format with all the previous leaders, explaining theri mechanics etc. Why scrap that for just a short show of animation?
production cost. free update so less effort, no narrator
We'll still be making First Look videos for each new pack! The next one is coming later this week. ☺
This is just an ad.
its called a teaser, like an ad
Just give us the First Look. Hated this teaser/format.
Don’t take this racist but I didn’t know Suleiman had a black skin.
Neither did I.
- Suleiman from afterlife, probably.
Because he wasn't black. Turks aren't a black or brown race. They fucking changed his skin tone
siyah albert wesker siyah elf siyah süleyman daha neler göreceğiz bakalım bu dünyada
dunya netflix adaptasyonuna donusuyor
suleiman's mom was from Crimea. How would suleiman be black wtf???
“oMg hE iS hALf rUSSiAn”
Quote by some idiot
Turks are not like this
What about the achievements for those new leaders?
so it seems like civ6 has a netflix update. the ottoman dynasty has its own characteristic phenotype such as big and arched nose, blonde-ish hair etc. the dude you designed looks like an indian citizen :D
His last outfit and background were better. But the flag is beautiful
Hat though
He is got n word pass now🤠
Why not reveal abilities? These are pointless
These are teaser trailers, bud. Maybe on Wednesday or Thursday all abilities are going to be shown at once, like last month
Where is Attila the Hun, William the Conqueror, Alaric I of Gothia, Pharaoh Kamose, Ramsesses III, Piye, Taharqa, Árpád of Hungary, Mahmud Ghazni of the Ghaznavid empire, Shapur I of Parthia, Hamilcar Barca of Carthage, Justinian, Diocletian, Theodoros Kolokotronis for modern Greece, Napoleon, Giuseppe Garibaldi, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, Toussaint Louveture of Haiti, Tarik Ibn Zayid of Spain, etc.
Lastly why have their been no Hittite leaders like Muwatali in this game yet?
Give me Kadmos of Thebes as a mythical leader and Theseus for Athens.
There is a whole bunch of leaders that should have been in this game by now!!
@@Userkaf_II Hey bud, first, this pass just add leaders to Civs that are already in-game, one that had the chance to be before and one new to the franchise, and second, you don't need to be that intense, it's just a game... And also, The Hittites were in Civ III and as a leader of a scenario in Civ V. Napoleon and George Washington was in Civ V, also.
@@pablor.sepulveda9929
The should be adding leaders all the time, not once every game, the only thing a new game should come with is mechanics.
So this is part of Great Commanders? The release date hasn't been updated on the Civ VI site.
It’s on this Thursday before Christmas.
How come suleiman looks like an Arab or a middle eastern guy. Suleiman is suppose to be a white guy not an Arab or an Indian guy
Assuming his ability will make units a portion more powerful the more gold reserves you have, that or units purchased with gold have some buff
His ability makes units black therefore adds speed buff
When will the leader pass also be available for the console Civ 6 communities!!
Suleiman the Black
That's a magnificant glans head.
When are we going to get an official Firaxis Onion Hat?
Surprised he doesn't have new subtitles under old voice line lol.
This is a real dude with portraits of him made and for some reason they ignored all that and just made him look like a indian
I like Suleiman, but it would be nice to if we could see another Ottoman leader, like Fatih Sultan Mehmet.
Süleyman'ım ne yaptılar sana 😵💫😿
lütfen ten rengini düzeltiniz Arap yapmışsınız koca sultanı, ayrıca hiç mi kavuk görmediniz o kavuk Türk sultanlarının kullandığını kavuğa hiç benzemiyor, Lütfen "topkapı" müzesine biraz bakın Osmanlı sultanlarının hangi şapkaları seçtiğini göreceksiniz
@@TayyipBAL-fn3rh arap olsa yine iyi bu direk hintli olmuş amk
Maybe we will get new background music?
suleiman from ohio 💀💀
KARABOĞA the Magnificent 😍
bro this aint a netflixs movie why he is black or indian or something didnt anyone of dev team saw his portraits before 💀💀😫
Name of the song please
Magnificent dress ✨
Wow man, didn't know we Turks were black. Thank you for taking this moment to educate us Civ 6. I truly am grateful.
first 3 seconds song name please
I thought we'd get an ability overview.....
ah yes
the guy that I got my name from
glad that u guys made him cooler and his onion hat larger
Will there be another live stream showcasing the great commanders?
His face looks like it was copy/pasted from a Civ 4 leader but I can't remember which one
Where is Attila the Hun, William the Conqueror, Alaric I of Gothia, Pharaoh Kamose, Ramsesses III, Piye, Taharqa, Árpád of Hungary, Mahmud Ghazni of the Ghaznavid empire, Shapur I of Parthia, Hamilcar Barca of Carthage, Justinian, Diocletian, Theodoros Kolokotronis for modern Greece, Napoleon, Giuseppe Garibaldi, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, Toussaint Louveture of Haiti, Tarik Ibn Zayid of Spain, etc.
Lastly why have their been no Hittite leaders like Muwatali in this game yet?
Give me Kadmos of Thebes as a mythical leader and Theseus for Athens.
There is a whole bunch of leaders that should have been in this game by now!!
What's with the Mughal garden BG and Mughal look???
I’m guessing his thing is making stupidly high amounts of gold.
ONION HAT SUPREMACY
hope there will be full version of music in the beginning of this video 0:00 - 0:04
You can search "Ney music" on UA-cam. This instrument is called "ney"
I was expecting Fatih Sultan Mehmet "the Conqueror" as a second Ottoman leader. Maybe We can see at Civ 7 ?
he got the drip
Someone got a tan haha
Wow... They made him indian
Why is he looks indian?
Kayser I Rum. Aka Ceasar of Rome
Put it on console so we can trade coin for amenities!
Bro changed races lmao
Diety AI has not been correct since Civ V please make it challenging again !!!
Where is Attila the Hun, William the Conqueror, Alaric I of Gothia, Pharaoh Kamose, Ramsesses III, Piye, Taharqa, Árpád of Hungary, Mahmud Ghazni of the Ghaznavid empire, Shapur I of Parthia, Hamilcar Barca of Carthage, Justinian, Diocletian, Theodoros Kolokotronis for modern Greece, Napoleon, Giuseppe Garibaldi, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, Toussaint Louveture of Haiti, Tarik Ibn Zayid of Spain, etc.
Lastly why have their been no Hittite leaders like Muwatali in this game yet?
Give me Kadmos of Thebes as a mythical leader and Theseus for Athens.
There is a whole bunch of leaders that should have been in this game by now!!
there's decent mods for making the AI actually good tbf, better balanced starts i think?
Suleiman wasn't dark like that.
Come to consoles! Please,magnificent emperor!
I miss civ 5 chunky Suleiman
This looks like racism to me. Just because we are in middle east that doesn't mean we have dark skin colour. Especially Sultans whose mothers were mostly European...
Rest in Peace, Sid Meier's Civilization console community.
Thanks Firaxis
Kayser-i Rum ??
It seems Suleiman was black. Let us make Queen Victoria and Frederick Barbarossa black as well. In his first form, Suleiman was already too tanned from his real-life looks. Now it is just bonkers, might as well make him blue at this point.
I hate this. I hate to be represented like this. And I hate that you didn't even bother to give us another leader, the most.
Why isn't there an arab leader you can do king Abdulaziz
I’m sorry are you forgetting about Saladin, two versions now, and also Suleiman is Ottoman which is a sect of Arabic culture, the Ottomans are still apart of the Middle East. Also Egypt, Sumeria, and Babylon also inhabit the Middle East but to be fair they aren’t Muslim.
@LiftingXGaming1995🇹🇷 I’m afraid the shoe is on the other foot, there is an incredible amount of similarities, predominantly since Anatolia is right next to Arabia and the Ottomans controlled it. The Ottoman Caliphate is considered the fourth of the four great Caliphates of the Middle East and I have no idea why you think that it doesn’t even share similar cultures. Look, I agree that it’s not technically Arabic since it isn’t in the Arabian peninsula, but their cultures, while different, are still very similar and it stands as a good substitute. Please I encourage you to explain why you think Ottoman culture is vastly different from Arabic.
@@Screwthenewhandlesystem Suleiman is Turkish and Saladin is Kurdish. Egypt, Sumer and Babylon's leaders are pre-Arab conquests so they are also not Arabs.
I wish we got an alternate Arab leader from the Abbasid (Harun al-Rashid) or Umayyad (Umar II) Caliphates and a different Ottoman leader (Mehmed II or Selim I) instead of these stupid personas.
@@ragnar8786 Yeah, I’m aware that Babylon, Sumeria, and Egypt are pre Muslim and therefore not Arabic, I mentioned it in the comment, I only added them because I wanted to list some other Middle Eastern cultures. Also I am aware of the fact ethnicities of both Saladin and Suleiman, but Saladin still ruled over Arabia and is an Arabic hero. As for Suleiman, I would like to rephrase because I don’t think people are fully understanding what I’m saying. I’m not saying Suleiman is Arabic or the ottomans are Arabic, my point is that they are close enough that I’m not complaining and I think it is a step
Far to suggest that there are no ArabIc leaders when one literally ruled Arabia and the other has a very similar culture.
On a different note, I fully agree with your ideas that those Caliphs would be interesting leaders, especially the Khalifeh Haroun Al-rashid
@LiftingXGaming1995🇹🇷 Good point. Oftentimes people do mix up Turk and Arabic and it is important to differentiate. However, my point was simply that they have enough similarities that I think the devs represent Arabia well enough. As for the comments about the Asian heritage, yes the Turks originally hailed from more eastern Asian cultures but at this point and for centuries they have become more Arabic. I do agree that they are different and important to separate, especially in a sea of racism, but I think they still have many similarities and have had profound impacts on each other worth noting, and I don’t think that they have “no similarities”.
Dang, he indeed looks magnificent