Carnival Night Zone Act 2 - Sonic 3 (Prototype) Remastered

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  • @MasteredRealm
    @MasteredRealm  2 роки тому +378

    Hey everyone! If you enjoyed the proto Sonic 3 OST, you’re in for a treat!
    *Sonic the Hedgehog Mega Drive Multitracks*
    ua-cam.com/video/vEvhRwGaeWE/v-deo.html
    It's a pack featuring each instrument -- of every 16-bit Sonic game -- isolated on its own channel, allowing you to hear the classic Sonic tunes in a whole new way!
    They are perfect for remixing or just appreciating the intricate details of the original compositions. I hope you like them :)

    • @MisterVercetti
      @MisterVercetti 2 роки тому +49

      "I'm totally shocked!" - Absolutely no one, 2022
      Still, though, considering Jun Senoue has confirmed that they're going to be using the actual Genesis/Mega Drive sound hardware to spruce these up, it means that, after nearly 30 years, we'll _finally_ get to experience these tracks as they were truly intended to sound. That, more than anything, has got me totally hyped.
      EDIT: Aaaaaaaand all they did was slap the S3 soundfont onto the PC Collection MIDIs and call it a day. Leave it to SEGA to blow a golden opportunity by taking the lazy route.

    • @joseamaya104
      @joseamaya104 2 роки тому +3

      I won’t really mind the music

    • @ray4k
      @ray4k 2 роки тому

      Are they really?

    • @Dekomata
      @Dekomata 2 роки тому

      Honestly can't wait to hear finalized versions of these tracks if they're gonna sound any different. Especially this one since this one is my favorite of the proto/pc tracks.

    • @satyamSaha
      @satyamSaha 2 роки тому +7

      @Nicktai the Steam release is just a port but the rerelease in Origins is a remastered version which makes it a new version of the game. That's why the tracks are being changed.

  • @acronym.4328
    @acronym.4328 3 роки тому +1024

    Fun Fact: If SEGA had instead used the prototype themes for the stages that were covered up by MJ's versions, we would have got more Sonic 3 ports due to the copyrights of the songs no longer existing.

    • @yellowpowr8455
      @yellowpowr8455 2 роки тому +54

      They should have ported it with this music.

    • @GamingPlayer123
      @GamingPlayer123 2 роки тому +34

      I dunno if Sonic 3 & Knuckles would be my favorite Genesis game if these tracks had been used, to be honest.

    • @selentia404
      @selentia404 2 роки тому +23

      Yeah but- ice cap-

    • @soniquefus
      @soniquefus 2 роки тому +14

      I don't think that's true. There's nothing stopping them from porting the music and using this version. It's not MJ that's causing issues with sonic 3, it's one of the other musicians from what I understood

    • @selentia404
      @selentia404 2 роки тому +27

      @@soniquefus *wich are mjs team*

  • @JohnMaster151
    @JohnMaster151 4 роки тому +702

    Definitely the MD's sound chip did justice to this theme

    • @Hamster_Pants
      @Hamster_Pants 4 роки тому +8

      ANGEL Ramos Baez no

    • @JavaCake
      @JavaCake 3 роки тому +5

      I actually kinda like the midi versions........

    • @JohnMaster151
      @JohnMaster151 3 роки тому +14

      @@JavaCake It's understandable if you grew up with that version

    • @elHonguito
      @elHonguito 3 роки тому +4

      Hola

    • @JohnMaster151
      @JohnMaster151 3 роки тому +2

      @@elHonguito XD

  • @trevinodude
    @trevinodude 2 роки тому +614

    As disappointing that it is that Origins won’t feature the music done by Brad Buxer and co, I’m also excited to see what Jun Senoue can do with this track. It almost has it all… groove, great bass line, catchy melody… it has all the tools Senoue-San needs to make this track more memorable than ever. All he needs to do is stick the landing.
    Edit: Jun Senoue in my opinion did NOT stick the landing… especially not in Carnival Night… just… oof…

    • @toamatoro570
      @toamatoro570 2 роки тому +97

      If by "stick" you mean I'd like to impale Jun on something sharp, then yes. He stuck the landing.

    • @ZikOfficialYouTube
      @ZikOfficialYouTube 2 роки тому +45

      Now, you'll be left disappointed...

    • @yellowmello1223
      @yellowmello1223 2 роки тому +65

      And he crashed and burned.

    • @trevinodude
      @trevinodude 2 роки тому +45

      @@ZikOfficialUA-cam And indeed I am. I have full on notes on why I personally didn’t like most of the Origin’s versions of the beta tracks. Like Carnival Night’s tracks ignoring the instrument changes on the melody in the beta version of the songs, making the melody sound boring… or with the choice of lowering the melody down a whole octave the overtones sound so muddy that that the melody no longer sounds like they are leading the song, rather the melody sounds like the songs are being dragged into the next part, so to speak. On top of countermelodies already present in the beta tracks, Senoue added another counter melody at one point in, Act 1 (if I remember correctly) that makes chords sound unresolved due to his note choices not fitting the chords… it’s a whole mess. The only zone Senoue didn’t mess up was the beta version’s Ice Cap Zone. To say I was disappointed… ESPECIALLY in Carnival Night’s new OST is an understatement.

    • @trevinodude
      @trevinodude 2 роки тому +33

      @@yellowmello1223 The most accurate short comment I have read concerning Senoue’s mix’s. Really starting to think he should just stick to rock/guitar centered tracks like in SA1… because he did not do the beta tracks justice at all… ESPECIALLY not Carnival Night.

  • @sllvksacgsakjc9357
    @sllvksacgsakjc9357 4 роки тому +196

    Sounds like something out of competition mode

    • @kaams224
      @kaams224 4 роки тому +6

      I think you are talking about Chrome Gadget from Competition mode, right?

    • @jtg55
      @jtg55 4 роки тому +8

      CONGRATULATIONS!
      YOU BEAT THE OPPONENT!
      PLAY AGAIN?
      [YES] [NO]
      lol that's what I see

    • @sllvksacgsakjc9357
      @sllvksacgsakjc9357 4 роки тому +7

      @@kaams224 It sounded like Desert Palace for me but Chrome Gadget works too

    • @DERichTech15
      @DERichTech15 3 роки тому +6

      Chrome Gadget and Desert Palace. Also Hydrocity Act 2.

    • @stained36
      @stained36 3 роки тому +1

      a little bit

  • @MSB3000
    @MSB3000 4 роки тому +626

    As someone who grew up with on the PC port, finding out that this version was the original all along felt like some kind of vindication. Hearing it w/ Genesis sounds and not through horrid MIDI though, is amazing.

    • @mentalrectangle
      @mentalrectangle 4 роки тому +41

      The sound on PC varied wildly depending on how each soundcard handled FM synth. Early soundcards came very close to approximating the Genesis sound (and that way my main experience with the game), but later ones interpreted the soundtrack in increasingly weird ways.

    • @LongSinceDead1
      @LongSinceDead1 3 роки тому +15

      It’s not the “original”, I’m fairly certain it was placeholder music they created while they were figuring out the whole “MJ music” situation when they eventually just decided to use the music his team created anyway for the final version. You can tell because the prototype songs sound so stylistically out of place with the rest of the soundtrack

    • @someobscuremusicchannel
      @someobscuremusicchannel 3 роки тому +24

      @@LongSinceDead1 yeah it was probably a fail safe just in case things didnt work out they'd have backup music so they wouldn't have to delay the game

    • @Ryusola
      @Ryusola 3 роки тому +4

      @@mentalrectangle ...Omg you angel, I THOUGHT THE ONES I USED TO HEAR SOUNDED DIFFERENT

    • @LucasCAPS
      @LucasCAPS 3 роки тому +9

      Phew, finally someone else who played on PC.

  • @bz4400
    @bz4400 4 роки тому +628

    The final version can't even compete with this one

    • @lilorangefella
      @lilorangefella 4 роки тому +59

      Exactly I don’t even know how Carnival Night act 2’s song passed by when it sounds so similar.

    • @KamepinUA
      @KamepinUA 4 роки тому +44

      @@lilorangefella it was just act 1 with one less instrument lolo

    • @LongSinceDead1
      @LongSinceDead1 3 роки тому +15

      But this version is so boring, I don’t understand

    • @CaptainCoolzCT-
      @CaptainCoolzCT- 3 роки тому +51

      Long since dead ...no. No, it isn’t boring. I’m sorry, usually I respect opinions, but this time you’re literally wrong. It’s like saying or "Sonic 1 has better mechanics than Sonic 2" or "Metropolis Zone's music is garbage".

    • @bz4400
      @bz4400 3 роки тому +14

      @@CaptainCoolzCT-here it's not about how nice something sounds, but rather how "boring" something sounds. This ver is much more alive in my opinion, but since it's from the prototype and unfinished I can kinda understand how someone may dislike it

  • @RandomInnVGMs
    @RandomInnVGMs 4 роки тому +94

    I love MJ, but clapping at the start of this soundtrack slaps so hard it gives a reason to live. 👋😂

  • @toamatoro570
    @toamatoro570 2 роки тому +309

    Boy....Origins really fucked this up.
    Sega, you never fail to underperform.

    • @sometf2player752
      @sometf2player752 2 роки тому +9

      well at least they finally added super sonic rotation sprites as well as rotation sprites for looking up and crouching

    • @ralsei3157
      @ralsei3157 2 роки тому +37

      @@sometf2player752 when the Sonic 3 Complete people did that years before them

    • @whact
      @whact 2 роки тому +19

      @@sometf2player752 that was probably done by the whitehead team though

    • @fawkesthefox912
      @fawkesthefox912 2 роки тому +4

      @OctoOOZ THAT was done by the guy behind Son of a Glitch.

    • @nekomarulupin
      @nekomarulupin 2 роки тому +2

      They've been doing this for like, 17 years, and you expect them not to fuck it up?

  • @TheEPICMarioBros2
    @TheEPICMarioBros2 3 місяці тому +13

    Sonic 3: Sinister Carnival
    Sonic 3 Proto: Happy Carnival
    Sonic Origins: Depressed Carnival

  • @imsauceless
    @imsauceless 2 роки тому +548

    Here to wash my ears out 😭... what where they thinking with origns 💀

    • @harrybest2041
      @harrybest2041 2 роки тому +38

      If you want to know what they were thinking, you have to go back to 1993 when they first created the Origins version, that exact version. It was never made in 2022 or 2021.

    • @imsauceless
      @imsauceless 2 роки тому +52

      @@harrybest2041 sooo the origins version is the beta version of the beta version?? 😭

    • @harrybest2041
      @harrybest2041 2 роки тому +19

      @@imsauceless Yes.

    • @imsauceless
      @imsauceless 2 роки тому +22

      @@harrybest2041 if only they used this one..

    • @notaprogamer2782
      @notaprogamer2782 Рік тому +15

      It was ok, personally I like origins section b better than this one. But I think all prototypes of ice cap will always be bad, only the Jackson teams version of ice cap is good. But this one is pretty cool

  • @CrimsonNeo
    @CrimsonNeo 4 роки тому +278

    Definely my favorite from the protype. it blows the final version from the water. The melody in this one is so fucking good and it fits very well for Carnival Night. And those beats, oh boy.
    This music is so much win.

    • @najibosman6497
      @najibosman6497 4 роки тому +16

      One hundred percent agree with you on that, the final version is nowhere near as catchy

    • @bluersonic9528
      @bluersonic9528 4 роки тому +11

      It’s cheery, but the final is *_f u n k y ._* I like the song but feel the final is more fitting to the rest of Sonic 3.

    • @Master_48
      @Master_48 4 роки тому +2

      Mine too!

    • @Medachod
      @Medachod 4 роки тому +12

      @@bluersonic9528 Eh, the prototype definitely fit more. Plus, the final did not even change the tune at all in Act 2, well the prototype has an entirely different track.

    • @CrimsonNeo
      @CrimsonNeo 4 роки тому +5

      @@Medachod Exactly my point, too. Also, the melody in the final version can get boring really fast, not saying it's bad, but... This one on another hand, tho'...

  • @glennbonagua7765
    @glennbonagua7765 2 роки тому +44

    I honestly think this would be the best alternative for Sonic 3&K Origins

    • @CTR_SimonMK7
      @CTR_SimonMK7 2 роки тому +6

      And as of June 09 2022, it has been confirmed that this will be the case for Sonic 3&K in Sonic Origins. Jun Senoue is the one behind the rearragements / recompositions.

    • @glennbonagua7765
      @glennbonagua7765 2 роки тому +7

      Nevermind somehow Carnival Night and Launch Base got the MIDI treatment and Icecap got an octave shift.

    • @CTR_SimonMK7
      @CTR_SimonMK7 2 роки тому

      @@glennbonagua7765 Yup, and now neither side can be happy. It's a bummer because i myself love both the original and the Prototype music and i thought they would have adapted the new music from the prototype's ost. Instead, it seems that they straight up ported the midi arrangements from the original 1997 PC release and used those with a genesis sound font.

    • @retrofan4963
      @retrofan4963 2 роки тому

      @@CTR_SimonMK7 Ice Cap in Origins uses the the exact prototype versions. Except Act 1 uses Act 2 instrument lead. Launch Base in Origins is basically prototype and PC versions have a baby. Carnival Night in Origins is purely based on the PC version only. And Credits theme and Competition menu theme in Origins are straight up from the prototype versions.

  • @sneakysquidgaming916
    @sneakysquidgaming916 2 роки тому +379

    This sounds WAY better than the MJ one to be honest

    • @retrofan4963
      @retrofan4963 2 роки тому +42

      @@4n0nym0usm4r3y Carnival Night prototype theme has a theme park feel, which is what Carnivals also contain.

    • @arzfan29
      @arzfan29 2 роки тому +34

      @@4n0nym0usm4r3y mj carnival night doesn't fit the stage whatsoever

    • @4n0nym0usm4r3y
      @4n0nym0usm4r3y 2 роки тому +7

      @@retrofan4963 ik but Id still prefer the mj version since its always been my favorite

    • @4n0nym0usm4r3y
      @4n0nym0usm4r3y 2 роки тому +5

      @@arzfan29 well too me it does and its always been my favorite

    • @gianni50725
      @gianni50725 2 роки тому +7

      @@arzfan29 It doesn't fit the first act but I think it fits the second act better once the power goes off. This is too upbeat for that.

  • @Raffo2007
    @Raffo2007 2 роки тому +314

    They screwed up this one in Origins.

    • @EfraArt_Mix
      @EfraArt_Mix 2 роки тому +21

      Too much :(

    • @milanyislara1859
      @milanyislara1859 2 роки тому +1

      A little

    • @baronthecat6561
      @baronthecat6561 2 роки тому +10

      Yeah, they really did.

    • @EpicYoutubeHandle
      @EpicYoutubeHandle 2 роки тому +9

      Tbh I wished they would have just straight up rip this song from the prototype hell I wouldn’t even mind if they ripped the pc version

    • @gamingvibes5309
      @gamingvibes5309 2 роки тому +7

      Although the prototype version is better I still think the origins version is still catchy.

  • @TheExFatal
    @TheExFatal 4 роки тому +92

    Love the clapping sound

    • @elsr.esparrago8874
      @elsr.esparrago8874 4 роки тому +1

      Me too hehe

    • @CalvinWilliams
      @CalvinWilliams 4 роки тому +4

      @@elsr.esparrago8874 Same here, it's got almost a clave rhythm going. The whole song has a pretty Latin rhythm inspired feel, which is what I think I like about this track so much.

    • @SmashTheOni
      @SmashTheOni 4 роки тому

      Probably because it's using the same instruments as Desert Palace

    • @elsr.esparrago8874
      @elsr.esparrago8874 4 роки тому

      @@CalvinWilliams ._.
      Mi no entender un carajo xd

  • @Nonxistent_J
    @Nonxistent_J 2 роки тому +104

    Origins really MURDERED this 😭
    This was my favorite Proto track and it got ruined..

    • @harrybest2041
      @harrybest2041 2 роки тому +3

      They simply used an earlier version.

    • @lilacocto9103
      @lilacocto9103 2 роки тому +3

      @@harrybest2041 Yeah and it FREAKING SUCKS

    • @harrybest2041
      @harrybest2041 2 роки тому +3

      @@lilacocto9103 It's still better than the Michael Jackson one.

    • @Randonguy278
      @Randonguy278 Рік тому +1

      @@harrybest2041 i prefer the Michael Jackson one then the Origins one

    • @harrybest2041
      @harrybest2041 Рік тому +2

      @@Randonguy278 SEGA's version fits more with a Sonic game, but it's fine to prefer the Michael Jackson team's take.

  • @JuanACookie
    @JuanACookie Рік тому +7

    Sonic 3 Proto Carnival Night Act 2: POV: You're having a blast at a lively carnival with bright lights illuminating the night.
    Sonic 3 CN A2: POV: You're at a somewhat budget carnival thats somehow also set at the shadier part of town
    Sonic Origins: POV: You're sick at a carnival.

  • @HEXE-ft5cv
    @HEXE-ft5cv 4 роки тому +65

    Okay, the first act was great, *BUT THIS IS AMAZING*

  • @memzy64u
    @memzy64u 4 роки тому +375

    the pc version sounds shit. Slam it into a megadrive, it instantly turns amazing.

    • @thatoneguy5383
      @thatoneguy5383 4 роки тому +51

      Memzy64u The midis themselves weren’t bad it was Microsoft’s watered down Sc-55 Wavetable that made them sound bad and fake “FM Synth” mode which just removed some sound channels to make it compatible. If they worked to make a legitimate custom FM Synth mode it could’ve sound like the Mega Drive version as most soundblaster cards used a YM3814 if I’m correct. If you connect a really good midi device the mod is could sound pretty good. Overall it was Microsoft wavetable synth and sega laziness of not making a proper FM mode that made the midis “Bad”

    • @MasteredRealm
      @MasteredRealm  4 роки тому +62

      The FM tracks have more channels, actually. The GM midis are horrible. They weren't fake, they were included for the people with FM-synth cards, like SoundBlaster 16.

    • @kiawashington5069
      @kiawashington5069 4 роки тому +2

      agreed

    • @thatoneguy5383
      @thatoneguy5383 4 роки тому +8

      Master Emerald I should’ve done more research and phrased some stuff better. That’s a bad on my part, but they could’ve done more work with the FM Synth mode as it still uses General MIDI instrument assignments. I still stand by my opinion that the midis aren’t bad. A very common misconception is that midi is information and sound, but midi is just info. There are some pretty good midis that sound like trash because of Microsoft’s wannabe SC-55 wavetable. For an example music from games like Duke Nukem 3D or Blood sound pretty bad using Microsoft’s wavetable compared to something like a Roland SC-55, SC-88 Yamaha XG(insert model number), or other great free online sound fonts. The Sonic 3 Midis actually sound pretty decent on a YPG-235. I recommend you give it a listen. youtu . be/60d4uGPNblo

    • @MasteredRealm
      @MasteredRealm  4 роки тому +20

      @@thatoneguy5383 There was no 'FM mode' you just had to select the kind of soundcard you had, either FM or General Midi.
      The FM midis were only there because if you use the general midi instrument assignments on an FM card they sound like crap.

  • @djuv4375
    @djuv4375 Рік тому +11

    People who like the final carnival night themes onyl like them out of nostalgia, it litteraly sounds like someone went onto a free music maker on their phone and spend 7 minutes making a song.

  • @Ryboflavin
    @Ryboflavin 2 роки тому +49

    Oh Origins, how you massacred this gem...

    • @harrybest2041
      @harrybest2041 2 роки тому +1

      I'm tired of repeating this, but it's probably from an earlier prototype.

    • @Ryboflavin
      @Ryboflavin 2 роки тому +3

      ​@@harrybest2041 I'm aware. Does't change that the Origins version sounds worse.

    • @retrofan4963
      @retrofan4963 2 роки тому

      @@Ryboflavin Of course it'll sound inferior since it's an much earlier version. But at-least The Origins version of these prototype tracks are still better than the final Genesis retail tracks(Well, in my opinion).

    • @flyforce16
      @flyforce16 Рік тому

      @@harrybest2041 Source?

  • @TeamRocket98
    @TeamRocket98 2 роки тому +34

    I came to your channels prototype after hearing about the music replacement in Sonic 3 for Sonic Origins and wow I love this version despite me missing the original version. This is actually really good.

  • @Medachod
    @Medachod 4 роки тому +215

    I love how they actually composed an entirely different track. Out of all the ones MJ worked on, I'm surprised somebody listened to both of them and thought "MJ did it better" despite the final Act 2 changing absolutely nothing from Act 1, as well as the prototype version sounding way more fitting in general.
    The final track itself is fine, but listen to this prototype. It's incredible that it's a completely different tune. Don't think any Act 2 in Sonic 3, final and prototype, changed the tune entirely besides this particular stage. The clapping really reels you into it, well the shock of it being a brand new tune gets you into the rest of the act.

    • @zetaman8924
      @zetaman8924 4 роки тому +9

      @Medachod it’s not an entirely different tune, it’s a remix of act 1 in a similar manner to hydrocity. listen and compare this song to act 1.

    • @Medachod
      @Medachod 4 роки тому +6

      @@zetaman8924 I must be tone deaf then if it's a remix.

    • @zetaman8924
      @zetaman8924 4 роки тому +12

      @Medachod The intro is entirely made up. 0:07 to 0:22 is a remix of the first melody from act 1. 0:22 to 0:37 has a similar chord progression to the second melody of act 1, especially the bass. the parts at 0:43 and 0:50 are directly lifted from act 1.

    • @andyukmonkey
      @andyukmonkey 4 роки тому +12

      There is no reason to think that MJ's team's Carnival Night track didn't sound utterly amazing in it's original form but just didn't translate well to the Megadrive. They were probably hoping for much higher fidelity out of the sounds that can only be played back through the DAC. Shame we're not likely to ever get the actual original tapes.

    • @Medachod
      @Medachod 4 роки тому +2

      @@andyukmonkey I'd love to hear it as an MJ song.

  • @epicmaj8r
    @epicmaj8r 2 роки тому +48

    This sounds way better than the new version from Sonic Origins

    • @harrybest2041
      @harrybest2041 2 роки тому +1

      The Origins version is the earliest version of this track we have.

    • @flyforce16
      @flyforce16 Рік тому +1

      @@harrybest2041 No, it's not. It's Jun Senoue attempting to "remix" some of these proto songs and completely butchering them in the process.

    • @retrofan4963
      @retrofan4963 Рік тому +1

      @@flyforce16 It turns out Origins version of the prototype tracks are actually the earliest version of the prototype tracks. These are not new versions.

    • @flyforce16
      @flyforce16 Рік тому

      @@retrofan4963 That sucks then lol. Why did they butcher it so badly?!?

  • @BeamingLotus
    @BeamingLotus 4 роки тому +103

    The issue I had with the Final version of Launch Base, Carnival Night and Ice Cap is that both acts sounded too similar to each other.
    This song sounds like something I'd here in Sonic Advance.

    • @BJtheBassist
      @BJtheBassist 4 роки тому +9

      BeamingLotus3256 Hard Times, eh?

    • @norayr3975
      @norayr3975 4 роки тому +13

      Act 2 was just act 1 with fewer instruments in the MJ versions. The non-MJ music all had fully remixed or even different tracks for act 2.

    • @ikec-pw5sb
      @ikec-pw5sb 4 роки тому

      @@BJtheBassist that was damn clever

    • @frannielmartinez
      @frannielmartinez 4 роки тому

      @@norayr3975 Ice Cap in Prototype however...

    • @CaptainCoolzCT-
      @CaptainCoolzCT- 3 роки тому +1

      The proto songs sound so much like a mix of Music Plant Zone and Leaf Forest Zone. I absolutely love the tracks.

  • @ians_parks
    @ians_parks 2 роки тому +118

    This was my favorite prototype track and was really looking forward to its inclusion in Origins.
    ...and Jun Senoue just butchered the hell out of it. 😐

    • @elliott6798
      @elliott6798 2 роки тому +6

      I'm praying for a patch

    • @EpicYoutubeHandle
      @EpicYoutubeHandle 2 роки тому +1

      @@CosmicSponge2004 tbh the pc midi still sounds way better than what we got

    • @jaywarudo
      @jaywarudo 2 роки тому +11

      they didn't have to hire jun at all. we already got perfectly fine songs to use, which are suprise surprise, the proto tracks.

    • @TetsuQuake
      @TetsuQuake Рік тому +1

      Same, I even liked the MIDI version, the S3K Complete version, and felt justice that it was the Beta all along... Jun Senoue should not have touched it at all...

  • @kairusama9955
    @kairusama9955 4 роки тому +79

    There's a hint of hydrocity act 2 in there...not that it's a bad thing

    • @mentalrectangle
      @mentalrectangle 4 роки тому +2

      Carnival Night and Launch Base both add water in the 2nd stage and both take on hydrocity themes in the 2nd soundtrack.

    • @cumulonimbuscapillatus9312
      @cumulonimbuscapillatus9312 3 роки тому

      Yep, at first I thought these were some kind of early leftovers from Hydrocity's songs. It's probably just the composer's style.

    • @xXSpongeBroBrownPantzXx
      @xXSpongeBroBrownPantzXx 3 роки тому +2

      Same composer apparently?

    • @stained36
      @stained36 3 роки тому +1

      is there

    • @Yandeezy
      @Yandeezy 3 роки тому +1

      I honestly think they used hydrocity act 2 as the skeleton for this song. They both follow the exact same pattern/structure and are the exact same length.

  • @taylord5381
    @taylord5381 3 роки тому +20

    This is WAY better than the music they went with.

  • @radladstudios
    @radladstudios 2 роки тому +14

    God this track is so much better than the MJ one

  • @user-ku3sr7cl3u
    @user-ku3sr7cl3u 4 роки тому +22

    God, this theme SLAPS. HARD.

  • @Supercat126HDProductions
    @Supercat126HDProductions 2 роки тому +41

    Here to cleanse my ears from the Sonic Origins version
    Whyyyyy😭

  • @ishpaltheretrogamer8714
    @ishpaltheretrogamer8714 4 роки тому +188

    Rest In Peace Michael Jackson.
    I like the prototype music better.
    Time to unleash your nostalgia.

    • @dankmemes4794
      @dankmemes4794 4 роки тому +14

      I don't have nostalgia based off of this game (only recently played it), and come with the unbiased decision that for Carnival Night the prototype music is better

    • @mgk64
      @mgk64 4 роки тому +6

      Ishmael the Retro Gamer Michael Jackson didnt had an impact of music in this prototype

    • @corpsemachine6949
      @corpsemachine6949 4 роки тому +1

      @@dankmemes4794 "unbiased" u fuckin wot m8?

    • @CaptainCoolzCT-
      @CaptainCoolzCT- 4 роки тому +5

      Dank Memes
      Over the top Sonic fans: HoW dArE yOu

    • @SwitchZetto
      @SwitchZetto 4 роки тому +8

      I have nostalgia and agree that proto version is better

  • @phillyfanmatt
    @phillyfanmatt 2 роки тому +93

    I feel like I’m in the minority but I actually like this way better than the original.

    • @dannytheocto2556
      @dannytheocto2556 2 роки тому +27

      This is what the original is supposed to sound like, but it sounds like all Jun did was directly port it from the MIDI version

    • @Spealing
      @Spealing 2 роки тому +8

      nah not in the minority...i actually run this version on Sonic 3 AIR / Complete. It's much better. Ice Cap and Launch Base were the ones I wish they didnt have to change

    • @j19aiden91
      @j19aiden91 2 роки тому +4

      It IS better than the original. I prefer IceCap and Launch Base as they formerly were, but Carnival Night prototypes are better

    • @somenerd8139
      @somenerd8139 2 роки тому +2

      @@Spealing Why launch base? I absolutely love the proto themes, they're both amazing and completely different, unlike MJ's repetitive "Go! Go! Go!". I don't mean to say your opinion is wrong, I just want to know why you think this way.

    • @Spealing
      @Spealing 2 роки тому

      @@somenerd8139 for me it fits the stage and the way I race through it.

  • @MonitorBoiiii1991
    @MonitorBoiiii1991 4 роки тому +7

    gosh this is way better it actually sounds like a carnival song you would here in a carnival for the both acts

  • @miles128cast5
    @miles128cast5 4 роки тому +29

    I'm really happy this came out its now one of my favorite melodies in Sonic 3 it perplexes me quite a bit how they replaced this with clown music (not to invalidate any one's opinions) to be frank before the prototype and before the pc version I Hated the final carnival night music and still do to this day and it in turn negatively impacted my opinion on the zone as a whole anyway glad I can always toggle it on In Sonic 3 AIR

  • @Roze_aye
    @Roze_aye 11 місяців тому +5

    imma be honest. i prefer these songs over the MJ version of carnival night. these make the stage somewhat tolerable. the MJs are the nail in the coffin that make me want to rip my hair out...

  • @juelzsantana211
    @juelzsantana211 2 роки тому +3

    Fun Fact: Brad Buxer and all the original composers from the alleged MJ tracks are still credited in Sonic Origins when you finish Sonic 3 & Knuckles. :)

  • @DRelSniper
    @DRelSniper 4 роки тому +33

    I think the only songs from the final version I cannot let go are Ice Cap act 1 and 2... The more I listen to Carnival Night proto and Launch Base proto, the more I love them.
    I just finished a full playthrough of Sonic 3 AIR and I still cannot take these songs outta my head!

    • @retrofan4963
      @retrofan4963 3 роки тому +6

      Prototype Ice Cap is a really great theme as well. It's a remix of Crystal Egg zone from Sonic 2 for MS/GG, which is a really great track to begin with.

    • @triiodide7762
      @triiodide7762 3 роки тому

      Idk man... I thought that the proto would grow on me but it's just going in the opposite, I used to like proto carnival night and launch base more, but now I like all of the final ones more. It's weird lmao

    • @foojo9
      @foojo9 2 роки тому +1

      @@triiodide7762
      I’m kind of like you except now I only like prototype Carnival Night 1 & 2 and I also prefer the prototype Super Sonic Theme

  • @CrimsonNeo
    @CrimsonNeo 2 роки тому +10

    And look that, this will be officialy in Sonic Origins.

    • @ZikOfficialYouTube
      @ZikOfficialYouTube 2 роки тому +3

      Seems that it was a bad thing...

    • @kenzaowastaken
      @kenzaowastaken 2 роки тому

      I wish... why couldn't SEGA just use the original prototypes instead of "remastering" them? 😞

    • @harrybest2041
      @harrybest2041 2 роки тому +1

      @@kenzaowastaken They did exactly what you wanted. You wanted the *originals.*

    • @retrofan4963
      @retrofan4963 Рік тому

      @@kenzaowastaken They're not remastered. Origins version of the prototype tracks are actually much earlier versions than the 1103 prototype build.

  • @supremeraizen561
    @supremeraizen561 2 роки тому +8

    If I was involved with the music with Sonic Origins it would like this
    Angel Islands 1 and 2: Original
    Hydro city 1 and 2: Original
    Marble Garden 1 and 2: Original
    Carnival Night 1 : Proto
    Carnival Night 2: this one
    Ice Cap 1 and 2: MJ
    Launch base zone 1: MJ
    Launch base zone 2( I know some people will disagree): proto
    Mushroom Hill, Flying Battery: Original
    Sandolopis 1 and 2: Proto
    Lava Zone, Hidden Palace, Sky Sanctuary, Death Zone: Original
    Doomsday Zone: Original
    Super Sonic theme: Proto
    Knuckles theme: Proto
    That is all.

    • @ChuckE.CheesesIllinois
      @ChuckE.CheesesIllinois 2 роки тому +1

      Launch Base 1 proto is better

    • @supremeraizen561
      @supremeraizen561 2 роки тому

      @@ChuckE.CheesesIllinois I don't know about that, but did you know Bungee Gum possesses the properties of rubber and gum?

    • @AkameGaKillfan777
      @AkameGaKillfan777 2 роки тому

      @@supremeraizen561 This is an overall solid list

    • @axtonganha
      @axtonganha 2 роки тому

      I still love convert all proto execpt Mushrom Hill lol

    • @supremeraizen561
      @supremeraizen561 Рік тому

      @@axtonganha Actually, now that I think about it, the Proto Mushroom Hill Zone music has that bouncy feel to it and it works better because of the rubbery and bouncy mushrooms throughout the stage.

  • @poohwithtimbs7027
    @poohwithtimbs7027 2 роки тому +5

    Ngl, this music makes the zone 100% more enjoyable then the actual final release imo

  • @sir_lanian
    @sir_lanian 2 роки тому +20

    This is getting finished?!! How can you improve upon perfection?! How Jun, how?!!!!????

    • @MasteredRealm
      @MasteredRealm  2 роки тому +3

      It's like adding cheese to food. You can't go wrong with adding Jun to songs!

    • @jomaq9233
      @jomaq9233 2 роки тому +26

      …and then the cheese started growing mold (the guy just can’t seem to get Genesis music to sound right anymore)

    • @sir_lanian
      @sir_lanian 2 роки тому

      @@jomaq9233 oh for fuck sake i just heard it. Oh but sonic team needs to hire the japanese guy cause japan, when Te Lopes is just sitting right there. Fuck Sonic Team. Fuck Jun.

    • @trevinodude
      @trevinodude 2 роки тому +18

      Somehow it went very very wrong… the game itself looks great so I’m going to still get Origins and enjoy the gameplay but ouch… the changed music will be quite painful to hear sadly.

    • @soniquefus
      @soniquefus 2 роки тому +8

      @@MasteredRealm this didn't age well lol

  • @yuki.35xxxv
    @yuki.35xxxv 2 роки тому +4

    MJ's Version has the feel of a circus, not a carnival
    This one sounds better, and fits better

  • @quinnmcmurtrie8022
    @quinnmcmurtrie8022 2 роки тому +5

    Trending: Sonic Origins composer Jun Senoue screws Sonic 3's Prototype tracks.

  • @justintendo4302
    @justintendo4302 2 роки тому +12

    God this is much better than the one they went with in origins

    • @retrofan4963
      @retrofan4963 Рік тому

      Because the Origins version is taken from a much earlier prototype that's less complete than the one in this video.

  • @friedchickenUSA
    @friedchickenUSA 2 роки тому +5

    OH its the sonic adventure 7 title theme, my favorite

  • @CheddarVG
    @CheddarVG 4 роки тому +5

    This is my favorite of the prototype tracks.

  • @KeltkeGH
    @KeltkeGH 4 роки тому +17

    Amazing, thank you so much for making this!

  • @PadlockPix
    @PadlockPix Рік тому +5

    If there's one thing we all learned from origins... Jun senoue can't make genesis music to save his own life

    • @pmd9801
      @pmd9801 10 місяців тому

      He didn't do anything. He didn't arranged anything, he just did the new Super Sonic theme. Those versions are older than this prototype.

    • @MasteredRealm
      @MasteredRealm  День тому

      Carnival Night my beloved ;-;

  • @gneu1527
    @gneu1527 2 роки тому +5

    Prototype : Carnival
    Full : CiRcUs

  • @MrOnyxWolf
    @MrOnyxWolf 2 роки тому +12

    been listening to this for the past two weeks. and I find it WAY better then the MJ tracks. That said, part of me wished that SEGA should've never asked MJ or Bruxer to compose the tracks for Carnival Night, Icecap, & Launch Base Zone back then.
    Otherwise Sonic 3&Knuckles would've had more ports & remained on Steam. And not having this liscense issue BS to happen.

    • @andyukmonkey
      @andyukmonkey Рік тому

      To be honest It would have been nice if the final game had nothing but MJ's team's music in it. That way the prototype ROM would have all of Sega's music and we would have gotten all of both!
      Right now we're never likely to ever hear the other 30+ MJ's team's songs

    • @Randonguy278
      @Randonguy278 Рік тому

      @@andyukmonkey That would probably just have the same thing happen the music being destroyed in origins

  • @__4762
    @__4762 3 роки тому +8

    Blows the final game's act 2 out of the water. Respect to Michael Jackson's track, but Carnival Night Act 2 in the final is basically the same as Act 1. Had they used this as an Act 2, it would have made Act 2 stick out more, although the flooded section and the power outage do help to make Act 2 distinct. I think a completely new song like this would have worked way better than the barely modified version of Act 1 we ended up getting. At least this was used in the PC port, even if it was shitty MIDIs lmao.

  • @Noiser2092
    @Noiser2092 4 роки тому +20

    This Feels Like A Tutorial Stage In A Mario And Luigi Game.

  • @MManiaZone
    @MManiaZone 2 роки тому +10

    My poor baby

  • @BeeBN
    @BeeBN 2 роки тому +17

    This is the only song that might be better than the original

  • @kankyu1122
    @kankyu1122 4 роки тому +4

    Intro part is pretty memorable

  • @skyblailock7248
    @skyblailock7248 3 роки тому +28

    As per usual the second act is always better than the first. 😎

  • @GustavoCazonato
    @GustavoCazonato 4 роки тому +3

    So this is where Sonic Adventure 7 opening/stage intro came from...

  • @cubedtothex
    @cubedtothex 2 місяці тому +1

    I still think it’s pretty wild how we got a demented and creepy track in the Final version (initial release). This gives the darker act 2 more “happy” energy.

  • @nerymuniz6427
    @nerymuniz6427 2 роки тому +6

    The Carnival Night prototype themes is what I like to call perfection

  • @hypergoon1152
    @hypergoon1152 4 роки тому +22

    I think the prototype music of carnival night zone is better than the final.

  • @lance9738
    @lance9738 2 роки тому +6

    this is so fkn fire

  • @FreshTillDeath56
    @FreshTillDeath56 Рік тому +8

    ABSOLUTE UNIT OF A TUNE! God, I can't make up my mind which one I like more, Carnival Night proto or Launch Base Proto. Carnival Night has way better vibes, but Launch Base tells a better story in its melody, and it's way stronger in it's complexion. Launch Base changes key almost every measure!

  • @GavGaming15
    @GavGaming15 Рік тому +4

    I thought I liked it in origins but then I do the original. This is sooo much better

  • @alex7770_
    @alex7770_ 2 роки тому +3

    This is more better than that piece of Origins vomit

  • @colburnrescores6654
    @colburnrescores6654 2 роки тому +6

    What the hell happened?! Sega you had ONE JOB and you couldn’t even do that single job of just porting these versions of the beta tracks over to origins. That’s pathetic, now Carnival Night’s ruined…

  • @jakighcolburnchannel3584
    @jakighcolburnchannel3584 4 роки тому +4

    This is now my 3rd favorite track in sonic 3 right behind lava reef act 1 and final version icecap act 1, I just cannot stop listening to this track, it even beats out sonic 3 complete’s version of CN prototype. This was definitely made for the Genesis’s sound chip

  • @Cocodrilodeagua
    @Cocodrilodeagua 4 роки тому +38

    Subtitles
    *MUSIC*
    *CLAPS*

  • @AlfreXDraco
    @AlfreXDraco Рік тому +2

    I like more this version than the MJ's ver.

  • @noahrevevalin66
    @noahrevevalin66 3 роки тому +19

    Barrel of Death doesn't seem to be that bad if this was the stage's music.

  • @fartinator1
    @fartinator1 2 роки тому +9

    Wow, I actually love this. I always kinda disliked carnival night zone's music in sonic 3.

  • @theblade1338
    @theblade1338 2 роки тому +3

    Nah that intro go crazzzzy

  • @MeleeFox2004
    @MeleeFox2004 2 роки тому +7

    SEGA does what Nintendon’t. SEGA ruins their perfectly good songs. Nintendo does not.

  • @ivoryvt
    @ivoryvt 3 роки тому +10

    Personally, I think these versions of Carnival Night Zone's themes are better, even on the PC. The final game's versions were generic carnival music with a bit of generic circus jingles added into it.

    • @trcgamer99
      @trcgamer99 3 роки тому +2

      My thoughts exactly!

    • @retrofan4963
      @retrofan4963 2 роки тому +1

      I agree. I think the only really cool thing about Carnival Night final is the Jam reference. But other than that, yeah. I prefer the Carnival Night prototype theme.

  • @OfficialAGAG12Account
    @OfficialAGAG12Account Рік тому +2

    This melody sounds so Good, even if it was 2050.

  • @Double400
    @Double400 2 роки тому +8

    Holy shit this slaps
    Can’t wait to see what Jun Senoue does to this

    • @RetroJaden
      @RetroJaden 2 роки тому +1

      Saame!

    • @RetroJaden
      @RetroJaden 2 роки тому +10

      @@knocknock08 Jun butchered my bop... 😭😭😭

    • @ZikOfficialYouTube
      @ZikOfficialYouTube 2 роки тому +5

      This is awkward now...

    • @trevinodude
      @trevinodude 2 роки тому +4

      I too, was once hopeful for what Jun Senoue would do… and to say that I’m disappointed is such an understatement.

    • @Double400
      @Double400 2 роки тому +3

      @@ZikOfficialUA-cam LMAOOO nvm 💀

  • @jenniferm914
    @jenniferm914 3 роки тому +2

    🎵 I love this song 🎵 Let's party until the morning sun

  • @RetroJordan91
    @RetroJordan91 3 роки тому +27

    I hope this gets used in the Sonic Origins version of 3&K along with the other proto tracks.. definitely my favorite 🤩

    • @GrandMasterGalvatron
      @GrandMasterGalvatron 2 роки тому +3

      Wish granted

    • @RetroJordan91
      @RetroJordan91 2 роки тому

      @@GrandMasterGalvatron yep I heard.. looking forward to it and hearing how Jun Senoue touched it up

    • @SilverLatency
      @SilverLatency 2 роки тому

      @@RetroJordan91 thoughts now?...

    • @RetroJordan91
      @RetroJordan91 2 роки тому

      @@SilverLatency well… I’m going to wait and see how it sounds for myself as opposed to leaked footage.. but from what I heard it’s ok.. could have been better but I hope SEGA takes feedback so they can make the tracks better

    • @harrybest2041
      @harrybest2041 2 роки тому +1

      They used an even earlier version. If you listen closely, you can hear it in this version.

  • @tato4662
    @tato4662 4 роки тому +26

    I think this version is better than the final one

  • @darthyamideathbringer
    @darthyamideathbringer 2 роки тому +5

    Anyone else getting Hydro City vibes?

  • @unironiccloudshrug340
    @unironiccloudshrug340 Рік тому +1

    The fact these remasters exist shows and proves that they're actually good songs when played on the hardware they were intended too be on in the first place. So glad these exist to listen to in all its Megadrive glory

  • @kargaroc386
    @kargaroc386 3 роки тому +13

    Its weird that as *soon* as this proto leaked, everyone instantly started hating the MJ songs as if they always did.

    • @pAirA_
      @pAirA_ 3 роки тому +1

      Maybe because MJ songs are the reason SEGA couldn't rerelease Sonic 3&K for the longest time

    • @tomdrawsstuffs6092
      @tomdrawsstuffs6092 2 роки тому

      still prefer them tbh

    • @grugonk
      @grugonk 2 роки тому

      @@CerealKiller MJ didn't have anything to do with the music for Ice Cap zone though.

  • @sleepy9102
    @sleepy9102 Рік тому +3

    I love this. In my opinion it stomps the mj tracks for this zone. The mj tracks are punches to my eardrums in comparison.

  • @JAKECOT_CENTER
    @JAKECOT_CENTER Рік тому +5

    Damn why couldn’t Origins use this?

  • @MysterKey
    @MysterKey 3 роки тому +2

    Sonic Adventure 7: Starting with Sonic and Green Knuckles (but unfortunately he's not playable anymore so idgi.)

  • @jacoanimationstudio-di7hi
    @jacoanimationstudio-di7hi Рік тому +4

    They should’ve used this version.

  • @ccateni28
    @ccateni28 4 роки тому +2

    I love how the PC music has love thanks to people realizing its the original sonic 3 music all along.
    Makes me love the music even more. :)

  • @ViIvaNunner
    @ViIvaNunner 2 роки тому +16

    i cant fathom how they made the origins version of this worse than the pc port midi
    this is my favourite classic sonic song (heck, maybe my favourite sonic song as a whole) and they made it so baaad

    • @Margulan217
      @Margulan217 2 роки тому +1

      Hi

    • @harrybest2041
      @harrybest2041 2 роки тому +1

      It's an earlier version.

    • @glitchedblood
      @glitchedblood 2 роки тому

      @@harrybest2041 if it’s so early, why does the SMPS sound like it came from a soundfont?

  • @EnchantedSmellyWolf
    @EnchantedSmellyWolf 2 роки тому +4

    Good memories.

  • @emu-bramble64
    @emu-bramble64 2 роки тому +3

    i feel betrayed we didnt get this in the final version

    • @X2011racer
      @X2011racer 2 роки тому

      Even moreso that Sega isn't using this song in Sonic Origins and are making another original composition?

    • @retrofan4963
      @retrofan4963 2 роки тому

      @@X2011racer They're actually using these prototype tracks in Sonic Origins. They're going to be remastered and completed in a Genesis soundchip by Jun Senoue. Headcanon confirmed it themselves, so don't worry :)

    • @MasteredRealm
      @MasteredRealm  2 роки тому +1

      No reason to feel that way anymore. Now we're getting the proto compositions remixed by Jun Senoue 💚

  • @wiintendosdude3458
    @wiintendosdude3458 2 роки тому +1

    I never really understood on why they had to remake the prototype songs and not just use their original songs.

  • @Speed_311
    @Speed_311 4 роки тому +4

    SEGA: HeY! WhAt ArE YoU dOiNg WiTh My PrOtOtYpE!?!?!?!?!?!?!

  • @Thedarkglave360
    @Thedarkglave360 3 роки тому +1

    If there was ever a sonic mania 2, I would love carnival night with tee lopes remix of the restored beta tracks.

  • @ricardohuff8774
    @ricardohuff8774 4 роки тому +3

    Sounds like a mixture of hydrocity, chrome gadget and desert palace.

  • @mobihedgehog
    @mobihedgehog 4 роки тому +1

    I’ve been looking for this for 1 month

  • @CaptainCoolzCT-
    @CaptainCoolzCT- 4 роки тому +6

    If someone tells me that this is worse than the final game's version of Carnival Night, I will politely cancel them into kingdom come.

    • @CaptainCoolzCT-
      @CaptainCoolzCT- 3 роки тому +5

      Aaaahd someone did. So I shut them down. Good riddance, non-musically-inclined person!

    • @FlamingRedHedgehog
      @FlamingRedHedgehog 3 роки тому +2

      *salutes* Good Job!

    • @retrofan4963
      @retrofan4963 2 роки тому

      Carnival Night prototype theme is definately more fun. The final Carnival Night theme sound like generic circus music. I respect and am a fan of Michael Jackson, but seriously, why did he and his sound team took that direction with his version of Carnival Night? I appreciate the Jam reference though. It also doesn't help that every MJ and Sound Team Act 2 tracks are just Act 1 but some instrumentation cut off. But yeah, the prototype Carnival Night theme is much better.

  • @EpicTails
    @EpicTails 4 роки тому +1

    Not even lying when I say the prototype music is so much better than the original that I can’t even remember what the original sounds like

  • @TheAlphazoneYT
    @TheAlphazoneYT 2 роки тому +6

    Lmao everyone here after they massacred the tracks in Origins😂

  • @yacsius5185
    @yacsius5185 Рік тому +1

    I like this song cuz at least it doesn't drive me crazy like the final one