Hamelin plays Liszt - Reminiscences de Norma (after Bellini)

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  • @conradwilliams4656
    @conradwilliams4656 7 років тому +127

    It was Busoni who said that until you had heard this piece you couldn't truly appreciate Liszt's genius for transcription. Hamelin is magisterial. Don't miss Bolet's version.

    • @DavidBallpianist
      @DavidBallpianist 2 роки тому +1

      Bolet's version is simply a misunderstanding.

    • @stefanbernhard2710
      @stefanbernhard2710 Рік тому +1

      ​@DavidBallpianist to be fair, Bolet was not well during one of the recordings

    • @jct35j
      @jct35j 2 місяці тому

      Bolet?? Are you kidding??? That is the most painful thing to ever have to listen to. It's as if he'd NEVER listened to a performance of Norma before or even had the slightest idea of what Lizst intended to showcase with his transcriptions. Bolet is NO virtuoso! His aberration is 6 minutes longer than Kevin Chen who at 18 obviously knows Bellini's tempos and Bel Canto style extremely well and is by the way my favourite interpreter of this piece.

    • @franzliszt1166
      @franzliszt1166 Місяць тому

      @@jct35jZoltan kocsis interpretation is the best!

    • @jct35j
      @jct35j Місяць тому

      @@franzliszt1166 Thanks for sharing your opinion and after having listened to Zoltan playing Norma I cannot agree with you. Listening to his "3 handed" sections is just one example of how laboured it sounds by comparison with Kevin Chen, including many other areas too numerous to list. I am glad Zoltan Kocsis has such a faithful fan in your person.. All the best.

  • @markt6896
    @markt6896 2 роки тому +39

    0:00 Sinfonia
    2:41 Introduzione
    4:28 Dell'aura tua profetica
    6:43 Sinfonia (transition)
    8:16 Deh non volerli vittime
    9:30 Qual cor tradisti
    12:18 Commosso è già
    13:54 Guerra guerra
    14:59 Commosso è già
    15:42 Mashup between Dell'aura tua profetica (4:28) and Commosso è già (12:18)
    16:10 Coda

  • @Ultrazone91
    @Ultrazone91 6 років тому +43

    It's amazing how Liszt was able to transcribe and mix so many themes from an opera into a brilliantly constructed piece for piano. "Qual cor tradisti" and the chorus theme from "Padre tu piangi", from 9:30 to the beautiful Arpeggiando con grandezza, are simply stunning. What a tribute to Bellini's great music!

    • @bastianinicorelli
      @bastianinicorelli 5 років тому +3

      Completely agree with you! The genius of Bellini united with the one of Liszt in an extraordinary piece of music executed by the wizard Marc-Andre Hamelin. One of the most impressive interpretations of this great work.

  • @MehdiD.Ardebili
    @MehdiD.Ardebili 12 років тому +65

    You've got to rememeber, Liszt couldn't only play all these great pieces, but he composed them As well!!!

    • @lsbrother
      @lsbrother 5 років тому

      there is only 1 piece here which Verdi composed and Liszt transcribed for piano

    • @younghokim1994
      @younghokim1994 5 років тому +18

      @@lsbrother You mean bellini? This isn't a transcription. He took some melodies and wrote his own piece.

    • @vnwa7390
      @vnwa7390 5 років тому

      He might mean the Ernani Paraphrase; I dunno. That’s a fabulously virtuosic piece to play as well.

    • @stefanbernhard2710
      @stefanbernhard2710 3 роки тому +1

      Wow, newsflash

  • @Tbilii
    @Tbilii Рік тому +7

    fransz liszt the most hardworking pianist ever known.... i always get motivated when reading his life and his working life

  • @test-cra
    @test-cra 6 років тому +14

    jeez, so refined, so clear pedalling. this may not be the most lyrical recording, but certainly the most well-executed pianist's intentions

  • @gavinhaugrud1060
    @gavinhaugrud1060 8 років тому +35

    Anyone else notice how defined and clear his cadenzas are?

  • @SiegmundOpera
    @SiegmundOpera 12 років тому +19

    I find his version very romantic but also brilliant .The end is spectacular.

  • @EpigeneticAlteration
    @EpigeneticAlteration 7 років тому +35

    7:39 gets so jazzy, I love it.

    • @zombieperson620
      @zombieperson620 4 роки тому +4

      EpigeneticAlteration How is that jazzy? Not scorning btw, I actually wondered. I don't really have knowledge about jazz.

    • @ewcho8995
      @ewcho8995 4 роки тому +5

      Hope Yeah you're right. it sounds more romantic or something else, just not jazzy

    • @conni1392
      @conni1392 4 роки тому

      @@zombieperson620 probably because of that major seventh

    • @jj8451
      @jj8451 4 роки тому +2

      Guys it’s the 2-5-1 progression that Liszt uses... that’s a very common progression in jazz!! Yes, it is very “jazzy” even before jazz.

    • @gergelykiss
      @gergelykiss 4 роки тому +10

      @@zombieperson620 I think it is the rich harmony that may make one think of jazz - Emin9 going to susp Amaj, then to Dmaj9 and back to Emin9. The way Liszt keeps the G-F# major 7th suspended from the Emin9, bleeding into the A major chord is fantastic, and might sound jazzy to some. Also, merely having two different 9th-chords in such close proximity is pretty unusual for a piece written in the mid-1830s, but commonplace in jazz. The passage also has an improvisatory vibe, as Liszt is riffing on a four-note motif he picked from the preceding melody. But it is very subjective. :)

  • @dwacheopus
    @dwacheopus Рік тому +2

    Guys. I've been coming back to listen such a masterpiece recording over and over. Hamelin is the best combined with Liszt and no more!

  • @bluedutch01
    @bluedutch01 12 років тому +19

    Hamelin again sets the standard.. every note is clearly heard even at such blazing speed.

    • @dwacheopus
      @dwacheopus Рік тому

      More likely a High Standart

  • @melonica90
    @melonica90 4 роки тому +11

    12:17 overwhelmed

  • @JramLisztfan
    @JramLisztfan 3 роки тому +2

    The arpeggios here are unbelievably powerful 15:25

  • @druntopronto7598
    @druntopronto7598 Рік тому +1

    unbelievable recording this will be my favorite by far.

    • @j-mharari3374
      @j-mharari3374 Рік тому

      Have you listened to Zoltan Koczis ? ( a film, live in Germany )

    • @druntopronto7598
      @druntopronto7598 Рік тому

      @@j-mharari3374 i know all of his videos even what you cannot understand.

  • @mydog1871
    @mydog1871 6 років тому +8

    My god is this amazing

  • @costasargyris835
    @costasargyris835 6 років тому +6

    12:18 those arpeggios....

  • @SmeagolTheBeagle
    @SmeagolTheBeagle 7 років тому +41

    best pianist alive imo

    • @joshuafinance
      @joshuafinance 3 роки тому +4

      Argerich is the best pianist alive imo

    • @duqueadriano0081
      @duqueadriano0081 3 роки тому +2

      @@joshuafinance argerich cant turn hamelins pages. Even at her prime, you can see her struggling with many pieces and passages hamelin plays blindfolded.

    • @juheonlee6529
      @juheonlee6529 3 роки тому

      @@joshuafinance one of the best for sure

    • @Tizohip
      @Tizohip 2 роки тому

      Lang Lang is the best

    • @stefanbernhard2710
      @stefanbernhard2710 2 роки тому +2

      @@duqueadriano0081 agreed. She can't hold a candle to hamelin. Plus his repertoire includes music no one dares to touch (i.e. Alkan). She plays everything fast. That's about it.

  • @mkeysou812
    @mkeysou812 12 років тому +13

    My God it sounds like about 5 pianos at the end, how may hands has this guy got?

  • @rjsullivanjr
    @rjsullivanjr 6 років тому +4

    I prefer his live version which is also available on UA-cam. The piano sound is close up and quite metallic in tone. Ivan Davis is more colorful for sure. But Raymond Lewenthal has an amazing recording. I still remember hearing it in KXPR Sacramento public radio. Final two chords were just crushing.

  • @SiegmundOpera
    @SiegmundOpera 12 років тому +6

    Hallo, dear Giampierone!
    Both Wagner and Liszt were very fond of Norma and Liszt wrote this wonderful piece with the melodies of Norma.
    Among the different versions (Boulez, Kocsis, ...) this is the one I prefer by far. For me there is a lot of heart in it but it is also ravishing.
    Greetings.

    • @dwacheopus
      @dwacheopus Рік тому

      Yes! Finally someone who finds Hamelin's version better at interpreting!

  • @s1earle
    @s1earle 12 років тому +6

    "Laughter is good for the soul"

  • @giampierone010
    @giampierone010 12 років тому +1

    Non sono un intenditore di questo tipo di musica...ma ho l'impressione che sia eseguita in maniera diversa da altre interpretazioni e quindi "originale"...grazie

  • @burnt_basque_cheesecake
    @burnt_basque_cheesecake 9 років тому +5

    4:29 - 5: 12
    Sounds like "The March of the Puritans" from Bellini's "Il Puritani".

    • @spfqr4977
      @spfqr4977 6 років тому

      Immanuel Reyes ua-cam.com/video/khfKReCNhw0/v-deo.html

    • @rainchen7846
      @rainchen7846 3 роки тому

      @Felis Skalkotris Sorabjitus I was gonna comment that lol, seems like Bellini took the same theme but tweaked it a bit.

    • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
      @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 3 роки тому

      @@rainchen7846 the Hexameron and the Puritains Reminiscences are based on the same opera, although Norma isn't. The difference is that the Hexameron variations (Morceaux de concert) was a collaborative work (other contributors apart from Liszt being Chopin, Pixis, Herz, Czerny and Thalberg). :)

    • @rainchen7846
      @rainchen7846 3 роки тому +1

      @@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji well yeah, but I'm just saying there is a high possibility that Bellini took the same theme from one of his operas and turned it into a new one for another opera

    • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
      @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 3 роки тому

      @@rainchen7846 true

  • @TripleRhu
    @TripleRhu 13 років тому +4

    15:45 is simply amazing.

    • @lunar.6091
      @lunar.6091 4 роки тому +2

      The whole ending e flat major section is incomprehensibly beautiful

    • @dwacheopus
      @dwacheopus Рік тому

      12:19

  • @hh10293
    @hh10293 3 роки тому +1

    Simplesmente Espectacular💙

  • @angalafan
    @angalafan 8 років тому +1

    It is certainly not very easy to find through this score by Liszt the brilliant and inspired music of Bellini's Norma. But here I do say I am totally satisfied by the interpretation of M-A Hamelin. The theme " Qual cor tradisti qual cor perdesti " 9'30" is absolutely poignant !

  • @nfsmwrox
    @nfsmwrox 13 років тому +1

    Fantastic stuff!

  • @cambridgeport90
    @cambridgeport90 3 місяці тому

    to think of how challenging this must have been for Liszt himself to play with one single-string pianos back in the 1800's. It's hard enough on a modern one.

  • @classicalmusiclover4029
    @classicalmusiclover4029 4 роки тому +4

    13:54 my favorite spot

  • @giacomoguarnieri2461
    @giacomoguarnieri2461 7 років тому +2

    What a technique, what clean passages, I am speechless. But why the first arpeggio in the final part ends in C instead of E-flat??

  • @gregp311
    @gregp311 3 роки тому +5

    If I bifurcated my left and right hemispheres and neuroplastically altered neuronal synapses to no longer recognize any form of music it still wouldn't compare to the formulation of these supreme harmonies.

  • @advisorC101
    @advisorC101  13 років тому +1

    @AcePro, I agree completely.

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 9 місяців тому +1

    Te encontré. 😂. 🇲🇽 💯

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 9 місяців тому +1

    No recuerdo solo La campanela.

  • @dwacheopus
    @dwacheopus Рік тому

    I want to play like him one day

  • @pianistakaeun
    @pianistakaeun 7 років тому +3

    😭😍wow

  • @Nozawacchi
    @Nozawacchi 13 років тому +1

    Great!

  • @radhikamittal6115
    @radhikamittal6115 7 років тому +1

    brilliant

  • @Davideberti
    @Davideberti 4 роки тому

    Certo non un capolavoro e la qualità della registrazione è quella che è

  • @alexanfadel
    @alexanfadel 4 роки тому +2

    Hey dear sir, could i use this recording for perhaps my project that i would probably doing?

  • @ValzainLumivix
    @ValzainLumivix 3 роки тому +2

    Nice

  • @horacefrancou9802
    @horacefrancou9802 3 роки тому

    A chemist of piano sound,Hamelin is one of the besr in the world,

  • @bspedermusic
    @bspedermusic 12 років тому +11

    cool interpretation. but the fact is that i still prefer the version with Kocsis.
    it has more feeling, it comes from the heart.

    • @davidrmoran
      @davidrmoran 6 років тому

      Plano @ Newport and Xu @ ASU (even better at Boston U) are real good as well

  • @advisorC101
    @advisorC101  13 років тому

    @TripleRhu, Yes. There's another recording by him floating around somewhere on YT which is even more blood boiling than this performance.

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 9 місяців тому

    Norma Lizst. ❤

  • @gyeongbaemin3128
    @gyeongbaemin3128 3 роки тому +2

    Best

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 9 місяців тому +1

    Bussoni? no lo dice.

  • @jackcurley1591
    @jackcurley1591 6 років тому +7

    9:15-9:20 Rachmaninoff before Rachmaninoff

    • @mydog1871
      @mydog1871 6 років тому

      I think you’re talking about Wilde Jag

    • @mydog1871
      @mydog1871 6 років тому

      Jagd***

    • @atherismagic4639
      @atherismagic4639 6 років тому

      lol them big chords. Was there a piece in mind that I missed?

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 7 місяців тому +1

    Hoy Mayo. 20++++++24.

  • @KarineManukyan-iu3sh
    @KarineManukyan-iu3sh 8 місяців тому

    Как фортепианноп произведение прекрасно звучит:и романтично, и лирично, торжественно и блестяще но не надо забывать что это опера значит оркестр и арии, в этом смысле нет подражания.

  • @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
    @CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 3 роки тому

    He has solid technique with this piece, I live his rendition although I prefer Tozer, Bellucci and Zoltan for this... I also love how he plays the cadenza!

  • @advisorC101
    @advisorC101  13 років тому

    @advisorC101, My choice of words "blood boiling" was very bad for this particular work.

  • @TripleRhu
    @TripleRhu 13 років тому

    @advisorC101 the live recording?

  • @joelkatz8729
    @joelkatz8729 6 років тому +1

    Liszt’s magnificent homage to Bellini.... and does Hamelin ever get opera! Ranks with the very best: right up there alongside Cortot’s Rigoletto.

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 7 місяців тому +1

    Si hay La Çampanela Bussoni

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 9 місяців тому

    No hay traductor.

  • @advisorC101
    @advisorC101  13 років тому

    @TripleRhu, I think so.

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 8 місяців тому +1

    20-----24 🇲🇽. México. 👏👏👏👏👏🎹

  • @rodneyfarnbach2768
    @rodneyfarnbach2768 10 років тому +1

    I take it back, not because my opinion is right or wrong, but because I realise it is out of place in a forum like this one, and therefore unmannerly. RF

    • @c3contact123
      @c3contact123 10 років тому +6

      you can erase your comments if you like

    • @duncanrichardson2167
      @duncanrichardson2167 3 роки тому

      You are a gentleman. Such willingness to make a gracious retraction is, sadly, rarely found on the Internet.

  • @zswu31416
    @zswu31416 2 роки тому

    Parts of it sound like the Hexameron

  • @freakmusic4009
    @freakmusic4009 4 роки тому

    3:30 and 3:44 shouln't be g natural rather than g sharp?

  • @Tizohip
    @Tizohip 4 роки тому +2

    14:58

    • @eduardovf174
      @eduardovf174 4 роки тому +1

      Fico feliz em saber que há brasileiros escutando esse tipo de música 😁👏

    • @eduardovf174
      @eduardovf174 4 роки тому +1

      @Mathews sim

    • @dannilosouza4955
      @dannilosouza4955 4 роки тому +1

      Ok

    • @ValzainLumivix
      @ValzainLumivix 3 роки тому

      Mathews h

    • @Tizohip
      @Tizohip 2 роки тому

      @@eduardovf174 eu sou compositor. se quiser, da uma olhadinha no meu canal, obrigado.

  • @TripleRhu
    @TripleRhu 13 років тому

    this is the studio recording, right?

  • @tkelly411
    @tkelly411 9 років тому +3

    the music and intentions of bellini,are all in this piece,,what else do we want except to hear liszt conjure a stagefull of singing paisani??????
    whassamadda u? slapslapslap
    hee hee

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 9 місяців тому

    No Bussoni. es Hamelin.

  • @Pianochobo123
    @Pianochobo123 Рік тому

    존나잘치네 진짜

  • @Markin0721
    @Markin0721 Рік тому

    나도 아믈랭의 반의 반만큼이라도 치고 싶다............

  • @claudioparrella183
    @claudioparrella183 4 роки тому

    Questa volta Hamelin mi ha deluso

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 9 місяців тому

    No Bellinii. 🇲🇽🥀🥀

  • @LISZTIZATION
    @LISZTIZATION 9 років тому +6

    I'M A HUGE HAMELIN FAN, BUT NO ONE PLAYS THIS AS GOOD AS IVAN DAVIS, I DON'T THINK IVAN'S PERFORMANCE IS ON YOU TUBE YET, BUT HE PLAYS THIS AT LEAST 10 OR 11 TIMES AS GOOD AS MARC, OK, I'LL SETTLE FOR 10.5 TIMES AS GOOD, NO JOKE !!!
    IVAN FINDS A LOT MORE MUSIC IN IT THAN MARC.....(BUT ALMOST NO ONE CAN BEAT MARC FOR TECHNIQUE)........

    • @vetlerradio
      @vetlerradio 7 років тому +30

      Please stop screaming you drunk!

    • @pulenk1
      @pulenk1 6 років тому

      And what do you mean about this: ua-cam.com/video/HcQAZgy-nn8/v-deo.html ?

  • @CarmenReyes-em9np
    @CarmenReyes-em9np 9 місяців тому

    Lizst. Solo Lizst.

  • @bababubu-j5g
    @bababubu-j5g 7 місяців тому

    This man does not understand Liszt's music at all. Just an average show.

  • @ahahahah9629
    @ahahahah9629 2 роки тому

    A great technician, but a poor interpretation. He plays it like a piano player, not an opera singer: I guess I just really despise that kind of interpretation, no matter how great the finger. Listen to Wild, Horowitz, anybody who imitates the great singers, you'll hear something very different.

  • @musicalmoments9997
    @musicalmoments9997 3 роки тому +3

    Great piece, terrible performance

  • @pianono
    @pianono 3 роки тому +1

    15:28

  • @jannis11
    @jannis11 2 роки тому

    nice

  • @kope7398
    @kope7398 2 роки тому

    13:33