It was Busoni who said that until you had heard this piece you couldn't truly appreciate Liszt's genius for transcription. Hamelin is magisterial. Don't miss Bolet's version.
Bolet?? Are you kidding??? That is the most painful thing to ever have to listen to. It's as if he'd NEVER listened to a performance of Norma before or even had the slightest idea of what Lizst intended to showcase with his transcriptions. Bolet is NO virtuoso! His aberration is 6 minutes longer than Kevin Chen who at 18 obviously knows Bellini's tempos and Bel Canto style extremely well and is by the way my favourite interpreter of this piece.
@@franzliszt1166 Thanks for sharing your opinion and after having listened to Zoltan playing Norma I cannot agree with you. Listening to his "3 handed" sections is just one example of how laboured it sounds by comparison with Kevin Chen, including many other areas too numerous to list. I am glad Zoltan Kocsis has such a faithful fan in your person.. All the best.
0:00 Sinfonia 2:41 Introduzione 4:28 Dell'aura tua profetica 6:43 Sinfonia (transition) 8:16 Deh non volerli vittime 9:30 Qual cor tradisti 12:18 Commosso è già 13:54 Guerra guerra 14:59 Commosso è già 15:42 Mashup between Dell'aura tua profetica (4:28) and Commosso è già (12:18) 16:10 Coda
It's amazing how Liszt was able to transcribe and mix so many themes from an opera into a brilliantly constructed piece for piano. "Qual cor tradisti" and the chorus theme from "Padre tu piangi", from 9:30 to the beautiful Arpeggiando con grandezza, are simply stunning. What a tribute to Bellini's great music!
Completely agree with you! The genius of Bellini united with the one of Liszt in an extraordinary piece of music executed by the wizard Marc-Andre Hamelin. One of the most impressive interpretations of this great work.
@@zombieperson620 I think it is the rich harmony that may make one think of jazz - Emin9 going to susp Amaj, then to Dmaj9 and back to Emin9. The way Liszt keeps the G-F# major 7th suspended from the Emin9, bleeding into the A major chord is fantastic, and might sound jazzy to some. Also, merely having two different 9th-chords in such close proximity is pretty unusual for a piece written in the mid-1830s, but commonplace in jazz. The passage also has an improvisatory vibe, as Liszt is riffing on a four-note motif he picked from the preceding melody. But it is very subjective. :)
@@joshuafinance argerich cant turn hamelins pages. Even at her prime, you can see her struggling with many pieces and passages hamelin plays blindfolded.
@@duqueadriano0081 agreed. She can't hold a candle to hamelin. Plus his repertoire includes music no one dares to touch (i.e. Alkan). She plays everything fast. That's about it.
I prefer his live version which is also available on UA-cam. The piano sound is close up and quite metallic in tone. Ivan Davis is more colorful for sure. But Raymond Lewenthal has an amazing recording. I still remember hearing it in KXPR Sacramento public radio. Final two chords were just crushing.
Hallo, dear Giampierone! Both Wagner and Liszt were very fond of Norma and Liszt wrote this wonderful piece with the melodies of Norma. Among the different versions (Boulez, Kocsis, ...) this is the one I prefer by far. For me there is a lot of heart in it but it is also ravishing. Greetings.
If I bifurcated my left and right hemispheres and neuroplastically altered neuronal synapses to no longer recognize any form of music it still wouldn't compare to the formulation of these supreme harmonies.
It is certainly not very easy to find through this score by Liszt the brilliant and inspired music of Bellini's Norma. But here I do say I am totally satisfied by the interpretation of M-A Hamelin. The theme " Qual cor tradisti qual cor perdesti " 9'30" is absolutely poignant !
@@rainchen7846 the Hexameron and the Puritains Reminiscences are based on the same opera, although Norma isn't. The difference is that the Hexameron variations (Morceaux de concert) was a collaborative work (other contributors apart from Liszt being Chopin, Pixis, Herz, Czerny and Thalberg). :)
@@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji well yeah, but I'm just saying there is a high possibility that Bellini took the same theme from one of his operas and turned it into a new one for another opera
Non sono un intenditore di questo tipo di musica...ma ho l'impressione che sia eseguita in maniera diversa da altre interpretazioni e quindi "originale"...grazie
to think of how challenging this must have been for Liszt himself to play with one single-string pianos back in the 1800's. It's hard enough on a modern one.
He has solid technique with this piece, I live his rendition although I prefer Tozer, Bellucci and Zoltan for this... I also love how he plays the cadenza!
I take it back, not because my opinion is right or wrong, but because I realise it is out of place in a forum like this one, and therefore unmannerly. RF
Как фортепианноп произведение прекрасно звучит:и романтично, и лирично, торжественно и блестяще но не надо забывать что это опера значит оркестр и арии, в этом смысле нет подражания.
the music and intentions of bellini,are all in this piece,,what else do we want except to hear liszt conjure a stagefull of singing paisani?????? whassamadda u? slapslapslap hee hee
I'M A HUGE HAMELIN FAN, BUT NO ONE PLAYS THIS AS GOOD AS IVAN DAVIS, I DON'T THINK IVAN'S PERFORMANCE IS ON YOU TUBE YET, BUT HE PLAYS THIS AT LEAST 10 OR 11 TIMES AS GOOD AS MARC, OK, I'LL SETTLE FOR 10.5 TIMES AS GOOD, NO JOKE !!! IVAN FINDS A LOT MORE MUSIC IN IT THAN MARC.....(BUT ALMOST NO ONE CAN BEAT MARC FOR TECHNIQUE)........
A great technician, but a poor interpretation. He plays it like a piano player, not an opera singer: I guess I just really despise that kind of interpretation, no matter how great the finger. Listen to Wild, Horowitz, anybody who imitates the great singers, you'll hear something very different.
![[MIDI] F.Liszt - Reminiscences de Norma (after Bellini), S.394](/img/n.gif)
It was Busoni who said that until you had heard this piece you couldn't truly appreciate Liszt's genius for transcription. Hamelin is magisterial. Don't miss Bolet's version.
Bolet's version is simply a misunderstanding.
@DavidBallpianist to be fair, Bolet was not well during one of the recordings
Bolet?? Are you kidding??? That is the most painful thing to ever have to listen to. It's as if he'd NEVER listened to a performance of Norma before or even had the slightest idea of what Lizst intended to showcase with his transcriptions. Bolet is NO virtuoso! His aberration is 6 minutes longer than Kevin Chen who at 18 obviously knows Bellini's tempos and Bel Canto style extremely well and is by the way my favourite interpreter of this piece.
@@jct35jZoltan kocsis interpretation is the best!
@@franzliszt1166 Thanks for sharing your opinion and after having listened to Zoltan playing Norma I cannot agree with you. Listening to his "3 handed" sections is just one example of how laboured it sounds by comparison with Kevin Chen, including many other areas too numerous to list. I am glad Zoltan Kocsis has such a faithful fan in your person.. All the best.
0:00 Sinfonia
2:41 Introduzione
4:28 Dell'aura tua profetica
6:43 Sinfonia (transition)
8:16 Deh non volerli vittime
9:30 Qual cor tradisti
12:18 Commosso è già
13:54 Guerra guerra
14:59 Commosso è già
15:42 Mashup between Dell'aura tua profetica (4:28) and Commosso è già (12:18)
16:10 Coda
Thanks!
You've got to rememeber, Liszt couldn't only play all these great pieces, but he composed them As well!!!
there is only 1 piece here which Verdi composed and Liszt transcribed for piano
@@lsbrother You mean bellini? This isn't a transcription. He took some melodies and wrote his own piece.
He might mean the Ernani Paraphrase; I dunno. That’s a fabulously virtuosic piece to play as well.
Wow, newsflash
It's amazing how Liszt was able to transcribe and mix so many themes from an opera into a brilliantly constructed piece for piano. "Qual cor tradisti" and the chorus theme from "Padre tu piangi", from 9:30 to the beautiful Arpeggiando con grandezza, are simply stunning. What a tribute to Bellini's great music!
Completely agree with you! The genius of Bellini united with the one of Liszt in an extraordinary piece of music executed by the wizard Marc-Andre Hamelin. One of the most impressive interpretations of this great work.
Anyone else notice how defined and clear his cadenzas are?
jeez, so refined, so clear pedalling. this may not be the most lyrical recording, but certainly the most well-executed pianist's intentions
fransz liszt the most hardworking pianist ever known.... i always get motivated when reading his life and his working life
He was an absolute legend. He lived his entire life for music
Mr. Hamelin es la única en realidad. 😂❤
Abril. 20--+-+24.
Gran pianista.
I find his version very romantic but also brilliant .The end is spectacular.
Hamelin again sets the standard.. every note is clearly heard even at such blazing speed.
More likely a High Standart
Guys. I've been coming back to listen such a masterpiece recording over and over. Hamelin is the best combined with Liszt and no more!
See? I'm here again!
And now too!
@@dwacheopushello
7:39 gets so jazzy, I love it.
EpigeneticAlteration How is that jazzy? Not scorning btw, I actually wondered. I don't really have knowledge about jazz.
Hope Yeah you're right. it sounds more romantic or something else, just not jazzy
@@zombieperson620 probably because of that major seventh
Guys it’s the 2-5-1 progression that Liszt uses... that’s a very common progression in jazz!! Yes, it is very “jazzy” even before jazz.
@@zombieperson620 I think it is the rich harmony that may make one think of jazz - Emin9 going to susp Amaj, then to Dmaj9 and back to Emin9. The way Liszt keeps the G-F# major 7th suspended from the Emin9, bleeding into the A major chord is fantastic, and might sound jazzy to some. Also, merely having two different 9th-chords in such close proximity is pretty unusual for a piece written in the mid-1830s, but commonplace in jazz. The passage also has an improvisatory vibe, as Liszt is riffing on a four-note motif he picked from the preceding melody. But it is very subjective. :)
My God it sounds like about 5 pianos at the end, how may hands has this guy got?
12:17 overwhelmed
best pianist alive imo
Argerich is the best pianist alive imo
@@joshuafinance argerich cant turn hamelins pages. Even at her prime, you can see her struggling with many pieces and passages hamelin plays blindfolded.
@@joshuafinance one of the best for sure
Lang Lang is the best
@@duqueadriano0081 agreed. She can't hold a candle to hamelin. Plus his repertoire includes music no one dares to touch (i.e. Alkan). She plays everything fast. That's about it.
I prefer his live version which is also available on UA-cam. The piano sound is close up and quite metallic in tone. Ivan Davis is more colorful for sure. But Raymond Lewenthal has an amazing recording. I still remember hearing it in KXPR Sacramento public radio. Final two chords were just crushing.
My god is this amazing
It is!!
The arpeggios here are unbelievably powerful 15:25
12:18 those arpeggios....
Hallo, dear Giampierone!
Both Wagner and Liszt were very fond of Norma and Liszt wrote this wonderful piece with the melodies of Norma.
Among the different versions (Boulez, Kocsis, ...) this is the one I prefer by far. For me there is a lot of heart in it but it is also ravishing.
Greetings.
Yes! Finally someone who finds Hamelin's version better at interpreting!
What a technique, what clean passages, I am speechless. But why the first arpeggio in the final part ends in C instead of E-flat??
If I bifurcated my left and right hemispheres and neuroplastically altered neuronal synapses to no longer recognize any form of music it still wouldn't compare to the formulation of these supreme harmonies.
unbelievable recording this will be my favorite by far.
Have you listened to Zoltan Koczis ? ( a film, live in Germany )
@@j-mharari3374 i know all of his videos even what you cannot understand.
It is certainly not very easy to find through this score by Liszt the brilliant and inspired music of Bellini's Norma. But here I do say I am totally satisfied by the interpretation of M-A Hamelin. The theme " Qual cor tradisti qual cor perdesti " 9'30" is absolutely poignant !
4:29 - 5: 12
Sounds like "The March of the Puritans" from Bellini's "Il Puritani".
Immanuel Reyes ua-cam.com/video/khfKReCNhw0/v-deo.html
@Felis Skalkotris Sorabjitus I was gonna comment that lol, seems like Bellini took the same theme but tweaked it a bit.
@@rainchen7846 the Hexameron and the Puritains Reminiscences are based on the same opera, although Norma isn't. The difference is that the Hexameron variations (Morceaux de concert) was a collaborative work (other contributors apart from Liszt being Chopin, Pixis, Herz, Czerny and Thalberg). :)
@@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji well yeah, but I'm just saying there is a high possibility that Bellini took the same theme from one of his operas and turned it into a new one for another opera
@@rainchen7846 true
"Laughter is good for the soul"
Health as well
15:45 is simply amazing.
The whole ending e flat major section is incomprehensibly beautiful
12:19
cool interpretation. but the fact is that i still prefer the version with Kocsis.
it has more feeling, it comes from the heart.
Plano @ Newport and Xu @ ASU (even better at Boston U) are real good as well
Fantastic stuff!
Non sono un intenditore di questo tipo di musica...ma ho l'impressione che sia eseguita in maniera diversa da altre interpretazioni e quindi "originale"...grazie
No recuerdo solo La campanela.
to think of how challenging this must have been for Liszt himself to play with one single-string pianos back in the 1800's. It's hard enough on a modern one.
@TripleRhu, Yes. There's another recording by him floating around somewhere on YT which is even more blood boiling than this performance.
@AcePro, I agree completely.
Certo non un capolavoro e la qualità della registrazione è quella che è
Simplesmente Espectacular💙
I want to play like him one day
Hey dear sir, could i use this recording for perhaps my project that i would probably doing?
😭😍wow
brilliant
13:54 my favorite spot
* Y E S *
Guerra , guerra.
0:00-16:45 my fav spot
Ok, actually the beginning and 12:17-16:45
@advisorC101, My choice of words "blood boiling" was very bad for this particular work.
Nice
Great!
He has solid technique with this piece, I live his rendition although I prefer Tozer, Bellucci and Zoltan for this... I also love how he plays the cadenza!
A chemist of piano sound,Hamelin is one of the besr in the world,
NooooooooBellini.
Lizst original ...,.
Si hay La Çampanela Bussoni
Bussoni? no lo dice.
Hoy Mayo. 20++++++24.
Best
@advisorC101 the live recording?
Parts of it sound like the Hexameron
Liszt’s magnificent homage to Bellini.... and does Hamelin ever get opera! Ranks with the very best: right up there alongside Cortot’s Rigoletto.
@TripleRhu, I think so.
No hay traductor.
I take it back, not because my opinion is right or wrong, but because I realise it is out of place in a forum like this one, and therefore unmannerly. RF
you can erase your comments if you like
You are a gentleman. Such willingness to make a gracious retraction is, sadly, rarely found on the Internet.
Как фортепианноп произведение прекрасно звучит:и романтично, и лирично, торжественно и блестяще но не надо забывать что это опера значит оркестр и арии, в этом смысле нет подражания.
9:15-9:20 Rachmaninoff before Rachmaninoff
I think you’re talking about Wilde Jag
Jagd***
lol them big chords. Was there a piece in mind that I missed?
Te encontré. 😂. 🇲🇽 💯
Norma Lizst. ❤
14:58
Fico feliz em saber que há brasileiros escutando esse tipo de música 😁👏
@Mathews sim
Ok
Mathews h
@@eduardovf174 eu sou compositor. se quiser, da uma olhadinha no meu canal, obrigado.
the music and intentions of bellini,are all in this piece,,what else do we want except to hear liszt conjure a stagefull of singing paisani??????
whassamadda u? slapslapslap
hee hee
No Bussoni. es Hamelin.
this is the studio recording, right?
yes
20-----24 🇲🇽. México. 👏👏👏👏👏🎹
존나잘치네 진짜
3:30 and 3:44 shouln't be g natural rather than g sharp?
No Bellinii. 🇲🇽🥀🥀
Questa volta Hamelin mi ha deluso
나도 아믈랭의 반의 반만큼이라도 치고 싶다............
Lizst. Solo Lizst.
I'M A HUGE HAMELIN FAN, BUT NO ONE PLAYS THIS AS GOOD AS IVAN DAVIS, I DON'T THINK IVAN'S PERFORMANCE IS ON YOU TUBE YET, BUT HE PLAYS THIS AT LEAST 10 OR 11 TIMES AS GOOD AS MARC, OK, I'LL SETTLE FOR 10.5 TIMES AS GOOD, NO JOKE !!!
IVAN FINDS A LOT MORE MUSIC IN IT THAN MARC.....(BUT ALMOST NO ONE CAN BEAT MARC FOR TECHNIQUE)........
Please stop screaming you drunk!
And what do you mean about this: ua-cam.com/video/HcQAZgy-nn8/v-deo.html ?
This man does not understand Liszt's music at all. Just an average show.
A great technician, but a poor interpretation. He plays it like a piano player, not an opera singer: I guess I just really despise that kind of interpretation, no matter how great the finger. Listen to Wild, Horowitz, anybody who imitates the great singers, you'll hear something very different.
Great piece, terrible performance
nice
15:28
13:33