His story is so sad and I can see how much his past affected him but the murders are still inexcusable and I’m glad the victims have gotten their justice
@@Valentina-Steinway ok and people think different and respond differently that just like say "oh well I went through what this person went through maybe even more but I didn't commit suicide hMmM"
That’s not guaranteed tho, but yea you should anyways. This is one of the cases where abortion should’ve defiantly been an option, instead putting him through all of that
Sometimes protection doesn't work though- they might have used it and it failed anyway. Not saying that you're wrong or anything, just that things were different back in the 1960's [they didn't have abortion for one].
This is one of those cases where it’s like “cool backstory, still murder,” First when you hear his backstory, you kind of feel bad, then you remember “ah yeah, 18+ people were robb3, tortured and murdered.”
What this guy did was disgusting and inexcusable, but it’s really sad to know that he didn’t stand a chance so early after he was born. I grew up with extreme emotional, physical, & sexual abuse & spent a good bit of time in foster care & I’m not a serial killer, hence why I said what he’s done is absolutely inexcusable. But I truly do understand the anger in his heart. Everyone that was supposed intervene and make a difference failed him. Which is so sad because if just ONE person, only one was there for him emotionally it most likely would have made a world of difference Edit:.. I’ve said it in multiple comments (including the original) but it seems like some people are skimming over what I’ve written and are looking for an argument. I am absolutely not making an excuse for his mans behavior! Personally, I believe he deserved way more of a punishment than he got. What I AM saying is that I truly wish someone in his life tried to intervene and make a difference. If they did, these innocent people possibly could have been saved. If you read through my comments I’ve explained how I can relate to his anger and resentment, but his actions were his choice, a choice he had control over. Which is why I said his actions are inexcusable! I’m fully aware he knew right from wrong and I am in no way justifying that whatsoever! The moral of this story is to always be kind to everyone because you never know what kind of difference you will make ❤️ I hope everyone has a blessed day 💜
Yeah, don't neglect your kids, don't let someone be constantly harassed. When someone suffers so much... best case scenario they harm themselves (really bad), worst case scenario they harm a lot of other people (much worse).
Eleanor please cover Elyse Pahler!!! She was a teenage girl murdered by her 3 teenage classmates after being lured out of her home. They did it as a sacrifice to the devil so their band would become famous. Megan’s Body was loosely based on this case. You cover cases with the utmost respect and detail and I have never seen another page cover this! P.s. you always release your videos right before my lunch break, you are the highlight of my day xoxo
Oh my god i am so sick of people taking satanism and twisting it to be something evil, satism is about treating yourself like a palacr and taling care of yourself and not letting others harm you. Those kids are so dumb
There is a Serial Killer on the loose here in Brazil and his name is Lazaro. Please cover up this case when he is caught, it's been weeks and he's still on the loose and police cannot find him. He said: -"I am going to kill as many as possible." And since then, he just vanished.. Edit: HE'S WAS KILLED! WE'RE SAFE AGAIN!! THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED, MAY THE POOR SOULS THAT HE TOOK AWAY MAY REST IN PEACE. 🙏🏻
His mother is horrible; first, she refused to accept that he was gay, which she shouldn't even have an opinion on because she didn't even raise him, and second, she got up and left his drag show; why would you agree to go then? *I am not excusing his actions.*
Why just blame the mother. They were terrible parents who didn't give him the care he needed. He hurt her other children and yet she gave him another chance. While his father gave him a chance only so that he didn't have to pay child support.
This is quite literally the definition of, evil isn't born, it's made. However, his actions are entirely inexcusable and I'm so happy that the victims' families got justice.
I don’t think a lack of love makes a murderer on its own. I think it was largely due to his own choices and actions and addictions he himself chose. I’d say he had a sad childhood but it wasn’t even tragic or particularly damaging outside of emotional neglect which is, don’t get me wrong, terrible but like… comparing him to other cases if that is his cause for what he did it’s not even close to what the majority of other serial killers went through as kids and young adults to break their mental to that point. Murder is the worst crime imo and emotional neglect is not a strong enough thing to go through to make it there
@@pree76 Idk why it matters. People are a combination of genetics and environment, there's nothing else that can even theoretically influence what someone does, and you don't have control either way. Even if people were somehow born evil, which doesnt really make sense unless you are talking very casually and intuitively, that's just as sad as people being made evil by other people. When you get mad at people for being evil you are just coping with the cruelty of the universe and pretending people can control what happens in it
@@Kushufy People very much can control what happens on this planet, actually we have more influence than any other species by far. To suggest everything is out of our control especially CHOICES we make is absurd. People can simply make horrible, wrong, good, and interesting choices and believe it or not there is sometimes where neither environment or genetics don’t play a part. Getting hurt, having damage done to the brain, accidents that happen I wouldn’t really call the environment shaping you. That’s more so in reference to gaining morals, ideas, ways of speaking etc from those around whether it’s through just normal things or something like trauma. I think for the most part people are the accumulation of their genetics and environment but this persons genetics not environment really predicted the outcome because at the end of the day we have free will. We can simply choose to do the wrong thing no matter what we were taught or if our parents were good people or not.
@@pree76 You're asserting things without explaining how they can be true. Free will makes no sense, even theoretically. We have literally known this for thousands of years. There's two proposed ways something can be caused to happen, deterministically (as a reaction to something else) or randomly (for no reason whatsoever). No person on earth has ever been able to explain any third mechanism, and all theoretical science views the world either through determinism or randomness. If you think you're more intelligent than quantum scientists and somehow knows about something not a single one of them can understand, you are schizophrenic.
i wonder if he had received love from literally anyone at all in his life any of this would’ve happened. his story breaks my heart. but it’s not an excuse. those poor victims, they didn’t deserve to receive his rage at the world. there isn’t an excuse for what he did to them.
Yes definitely, the reason many of these killers are who they are is because of their childhood unfortunately which isn’t their fault that they end up that way, it’s the childhood that screws them up and it’s not an excuse but it is the reason, they don’t know any better you know
@@phangirlable you’re just invalidating so many people when you say “so many other people have it worse” it’s probably one of the most fucked up things you can say to someone who’s suffering. This man even though he is far from a good man had a horrible child hood can you deny that? You can say others had it worse which is true but you’re acting like the neglect that happened to him and others is ok because there are “worse” things out there. I know (well I hope) that’s not how you meant it but please think of what you’re saying, I have multiple incurable diseases that are very painful, scary, and have fucked up my life a lot but I get told (not all the time it’s pretty rare for someone to say this but when they do it sticks with me for a long time) “at least you don’t have cancer” or “well you have it better than someone with cancer” yes obviously I don’t have cancer but still these diseases have completely fucked my life up and I’m sure those people don’t mean it but saying things like that, that someone has it worse than someone who is suffering in their own way will very much hurt them. I apologize for ranting or being annoying if I was but I just want to help others understand that statements like those can really hurt. Thank you for reading and dealing with me have a great day or night!
@@ImSakina_ not true, psychopathy doesn’t always lead to murder or other crimes, it’s only a risk factor. Most serial killers deal with a combination of upbringing issues as well as mental illness, it’s very rare that it’s just one or the other. I truly do think the adults in his life failed him. But that being said, there’s no excuse for what he did.
The fact that the killings stopped when Thierry was locked up and that Matheron didn't go off on his own with the killings post break up, I think lends itself to the theory that is wasn't Matheron doing the killing.
He was def killing old women who reninded him of his GMA. He would talk to them ahead of time and decide if theyd die based on whether they were nice to him or not?!!- thats your primary motive
And the things is I highly doubt anyone was not nice to him. He was a textbook psychopath and narcissist and they always think they are victims and wronged by everyone.
@@ava85898 Personally, as a small weak woman, if some random guy walked up to me I'd ignore them too and try to get away. Why would I have to humour some rando on the streets? I have no idea what their intentions are.
I find it interesting that he almost let them decide their own fate without them realizing.. like obviously being rude isn't worthy of death but he was looking for targets and this would have easily justified it in his mind. I also feel that the ones he tortured must have been ESPECIALLY nasty towards him.. Just a theory though
@@NoppityNope. They were not rude or nasty to him guaranteed. He was a narcissistic psychopath and they always imagine slights and wrongs against them and even reminding them of someone who, as they made up, "wronged" them is enough.
It’s crazy how some people become victims of their upbringing and go forth in the world to become as horrible as possible and others do all they can not to let that define them, but rather try to change and not be anything like their former caregivers.
And then, there are the ones who have a perfectly normal upbringing! It is absolutely crazy how a serial killer could literally just be ANY random person walking down the street 🤯🤯🤯
@@phangirlable I don’t know, i don’t think anyone is born bad. I think everyone’s a result of their upbringing. I’m not excusing this guys actions, he’s a sick person. But I don’t believe in born psychopaths
@@totalrevengeance3904 i agree because this said psychopath could be that way purely because no one ever told them no and they build a sense of entitlement to the point where a life is something just in thier way that they need to get rid of.
@@totalrevengeance3904 Look, I get that you want to believe in the good in people and that psychopaths are a scary concept but studies on the brain of psychopaths and serial killers (who are psychopaths) have shown that this is a condition in the brain (or more precisely, certain areas in the brain are not very active/pretty much dead). And yes, people are born with that just like they can be born with other brain conditions (something mostly regarded as positive for example: being highly gifted in math) or the condition can be caused by certain areas of the brain being damaged when sustaining a head injury/having a tumor etc. There are plenty of psychopaths who grew up in perfectly normal homes who showed psychopathic behavior very early on and even started to kill as children. And yes, the thought that you could have a child that is just born evil is very scary. But it happens (thankfully pretty rarely). It also happens with people being born as pedophiles (not a very well known fact but pedos usually start molesting kids when they hit puberty, as in that could be your 12 - 14 year old dear son, not just when they have become creepy old dudes).
Its heartbreaking to know that even the slightest bit of compassion and care in a single person’s life could have meant that 18 people wouldn’t have been murdered.
Bullshit. No one who isn't a total psychopath does what this monster did. There are many serial killers who had normal upbringings and had people who loved them. They are simply not human and couldn't feel love or compassion if it hit them in the face.
@@phangirlable that is a very convenient and safe excuse to assume that he was in fact a serial killer because of something innate. unfortunately, we will never know for sure, but i doubt the horrible things he dealt with in his life helped...
@@phangirlable hun why are you replying the same shit on every person who's saying his upbringing failed him. nature and nurture are dependent on each other. give it up sweetheart.
@@sara-up6pw It's not convenient, it's reality. You theory is disproven by the hundreds of millions of had and have it worse and don't become serial killers and the serial killers who had perfectly fine and loving upbringings. They are usually born that way or, get this, have an accident involving a head injury at some point and then people were like, wow, they completely changed. It's in the brain.
@@rinrinrinnz many serial killers come from bad homes like this. not excusing his actions because the were horrific but his home life was terrible and something no child should go through
Yeah that would be a good one given that they’re apparently the youngest convicted murderers in Ireland. I know they’re minors but why try so hard to hide their identities? They took someone’s life and they’re clearly a danger to society so people should have the right to know. This is my American point of view lol.
@@katcardenascruz it’s more so for the protection of the two boys families. We can’t confirm but it’s possible that one or both of the boys also have siblings and if they were known they could end up being attack which doesn’t make anything right.
@@ciatayagermanjenson8689 me too, the only videos of hers without a red bar at the bottom is ones with childrens’ deaths. I have a toddler and it just gets to me too much.
Because psychopaths just like hurting people even if they are friends, family, co-workers. I have met one before and she messed up so many lives. Just because she felt like it.
I cant imagine living your entire life, living 80-90 years and expecting at that point to probably die of natural causes.... and then to be murdered. You did your time on this earth and then someone just takes your life. Horrific
@@MrAbcdesh yeah his life did suck. But there so many people sho went through that and even worse yet chose to better their life go to therapy and did their best to better other children's life and not make them go through the same thing. There are many ways to deal with that he made a terrible one. I have empathy for the child he was not the murderer he is
@@rangerjaython21 it sounds kind of morbid but you know that story where a grim reaper comes when it’s your time? I guess he just took the role of the grip reaper which isn’t okay but 💀
I think thats a good theory. Like he probably thought those women were going to die soon anyway, so take their lives. Its still monstrous though... those sweet old women probably would have died peacefully and instead they died in terror
@@phangirlable oh yea cuz he was naturally born to feel unwanted and even despised by everyone in his life for 18+ years which in turn caused him to be a horrible human being 🙄🙄🙄 imagine thinking that a child with mental issues is the problem when they have parents who literally abandoned him at birth
@@MarshmallowFudgeUp lol You don't get it, do you? XD 1) Yes, people born as psychopaths display psychopathic behavior often from early childhood on (cruelty to animals or other children, arson, pretty crime, antisocial behavior etc.) and thus people want nothing to do with them and parents don't know how to handle having a monster as a child. Some even start to kill as children. But the funniest (would be funny of it wasn't so sad and lead to dozens of serial rapists and killers being released from prison and going back to killing) thing here is that you believe what the serial killing psychopath said about his childhood and his experiences. All serial killers/psychopaths are pathological liars. They lie about everything, including inconsequential things for sh*ts and giggles. They particularly lie about things to manipulate gullible people like you (and apparently Eleonor and most of the ppl in the comments here) and even psychiatrists fall for it on the regular.
@@phangirlable here's a take that'll probably blow your mind: sociopaths, or people w anti-social personality disorder, are people too the way u talk about them is so inhumane- like christ calm down. not every person w apd is a pathological liar my dude. and honestly if those kids were shown extra support and attention at the first signs of becoming serial killers, they would understand it doesn't benefit them to cause others pain. cuz, ya kno, not every person w apd is a murderer.
@@phangirlable and fiy, feeling pity or sympathy for a serial killer doesnt mean they automatically agree w their crimes. in fact, it's rarer not to feel some amount of empathy for anyone regardless of who they are and what theyve done
That story about the Drag performance really is heartbreaking. Obviously, nothing about his upbringing excuses him… but, I can’t help but empathize with that young performer being crushed by his own mom.
He was fighting with his siblings so she dumped him on his father? How about parent your child for once in his life??? No one ever bothered to try to teach him to be a decent person.
@@phangirlable You definitely do need to teach children to understand the feelings of others and not to act selfishly. If a parent sees their child acting cruel and violent towards other kids, they have a responsibility to intervene.
@@phangirlable stop being so ignorant, children are easily influenced,if a parent raises a child a certain way the child is obviously going to be influenced because that's the way they were raised. if you raise your child to be a decent human being that's the way they're gonna appear as if you raise them the opposite way THEN OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GONNA BE A PIECE OF SHIT because it's the way the parents raise the child it has nothing to do with the child because they're CHILDREN,young and impressionable,come correct.
@@mazande444 Stop being so ignorant. Many serial killers (and psychopaths in general) are raised by good parents in intact homes with perfectly fine childhoods. Hundreds of millions of people have hellish childhoods and don't become psychopaths, even less serial killers. Do you realize how stupid you sound? lol
@@phangirlable tf are u talking abt? Plenty if not most serial killer cases have a history of child hood abuse involved. You don’t just develop those tendencies out of nowhere. Abuse and trauma literally alter the brain especially when it’s going on in ur most developmental years.
Do you think that people who are sexually or physically abused are not also emotionally and psychologically abused? They have to endure multiple forms of abuse, not just one kind.
That lady not telling police because she is traumatized is kinda not smart I understand that she was scared but she knows what he looks like what if he tries to kill her cause she’s survived and didn’t want to get caught?
obviously there's no excuse for murder of any kind and i hope the victims of these crimes are resting easy... but personally i can't help but feel bad for thierry too in ways, and find this tragic in so many more manners. i know it can seem easy to simplify things into individual people who've commited these kinds of crimes as being "evil", "monsters", "incapable of empathy", etc, but cases like this really evidentiate in just how many ways homophobia, racism, the prospect of poverty (/capitalism), and drug addiction can negatively affect society, beyond what's more easily visible.
He WAS a an evil monster incapable of empathy and you can't believe anything he has ever said about his own life. Psychopaths always think themselves to be "victims" and "wronged" by everyone.
@@phangirlable he literally was wronged by others though regardless of the horrible things he did lol. the world isn't black and white and neither are people. again needless to say that doesn't justify torture and murder, i just feel like that's too much of a convenient point of view so that ppl don't feel the need to look at certain societal problems and their effects, like i said.
@@serenity_kay There were still only 2 survivors, and I'm sure they told him of that given he was interrogated for such a long period of time. I wouldn't at all doubt him killing 21-23 people, about half of all serial killers are estimated to have killed more than they admit to/can remember/have been discovered. Can't remember the exact number but Ted Bundy was confirmed to have 30 victims but they think the real number could be as high as 70-150.
It’s always weird when I find myself saying “poor guy” during the backstory of the serial killer’s life. I have to remind myself that this person became a vicious murderer.
This goes to show how criminals are a symptom of society. He is guilty of every crime, not every neglected bullied kid becomes a killer. But had he met kindness along the way, he might've been a decent, maybe even good person. I am so sorry for all his victims, and also for every young black and gay man that is pushed to violence as a means to escape.
@@laurenisdead814 the price point put me off to start but also the claims from so many people saying it’s causing their hair to fall out is just the icing on the cake
So sad that in whole life he was unhappy and was treated poorly,,,.. experience does change people sometimes for worst and sometimes for best. In this case for worst. So unfortunate,.
He was clearly a psychopath all his life. Zero moral conscience, criminal behavior from early on, turned brutal serial killer at an early age. Just pure evil and his upbringing has nothing to do with it.
@@ImSakina_ no ... I’m not... his upbringing plays a part in how he grew up... that isn’t the case for everyone... but if you pay attention to how he was brought up and how his killings were done you can see a correlation
@@phangirlable you’re literally under every comment calling the murderer a psychopath. He is showing more signs of being a sociopath than a psychopath (sociopathy is made so like Ed Kemper who had an abusive mother, psychopathy is born with so like Ted Bundy who had a healthy family life etc) but since the killer here was not particularly diagnosed with anything, it looks like the cause was all the neglect and abandonment. It also means that his guardians were partly responsible for what happened for not socialising or nurturing their child. The killers who are not straight up psychopaths, always have some sort of butterfly effect thing happening to them (bullying, abuse, SA, ptsd, mental illnesses etc) so, feeling some sort of empathy for the killer is not so unjustified 🧍🏽♀️
@@monetmonroe4644 be died 5 years ago. His one of those whack jobs that isn’t even a doctor. Just because you call yourself a doctor doesn’t make you one.
i legitimately am mad that this is a semi funny comment. it shouldn't be funny at all but fucking hell my sense of humor is absolutely fucked. i am absolutely going to hell
" The first 7 years are the most important years of every child as they set the basis for overall success in life. They are also very important for every society as this is the best chance to influence future prosperity, inclusiveness and social stability. "
I wonder how different Thierry's life would've been, had his parents decided to put him up for adoption, maybe all of these murders wouldn't have happened.
just a reminder for those people watching who don't know alot about HIV, there are treatments to prevent HIV from being transmitted or progressing nowadays, and many people with HIV are living normal lives. The info in this video - the concept of HIV being a death sentence - is an artifact of the time period these murders happened in and when Thierry was diagnosed.
His parents were horrible.....but I do feel people have the right to give up a child and not be a parent. I feel it shouldn't be looked down apon as much as it is now, people should be able to give a child up for adoption or whatever. Being forced into parenthood is eht causes bad parents vs " oh! We are having a child. Not planned but cool!".....if someone fr don't want to be a parent ..Orting yourself apon them or forcing the kid on them only makes bad parents. It's not the child's fault I'm not saying that I'm just saying, as sad as it may sound ...if someone doesn't want to be a parent. Don't force it .
Not excusing him at all because what he did was awful and horrible - and going after old ladies and beating them, torturing them and killing them so brutally like that? Like damn dude. But on the other side I wonder what would have happened if he had had the more important people care and be accepting and supportive of him. :/ Maybe he would of still turned out to be this serial killer. Maybe not. Who knows. :/ I'm glad this other dude won't get out either. EDIT: I'm not excusing this dude. Like no. My trail of thought was more in a different universe, world, reality, would he still have been a serial killer if XYZ had happened. Or was this dude just born a serial killer? That's what I meant. Hopefully this makes better sense. 😭
@@Melicious8675 i don’t think they’re excusing his actions, just speculating how much his upbringing and early life effected his later life and his motivation to murder. the nature vs. nurture debate is a big one.
This was exactly my train of thoughts like had he had stability in his life maybe he wouldn’t have such bottled up aggression towards old women(I’m also not excusing his actions nor am I shifting the blame) But being emotional deprived through out your life by the same people who are suppose to love you leaves a different kind of scar. This is also reiterated by fact that he only attached “mean” old women.
Trying to do my homework and watch this video at the same time: Interpersonal communication is really important so you can kill older women? I wonder if that is something personal to the killer.... Wait, what?
This is in no way funny and I'm so sorry for all these poor innocent victims but the "Hair like Carl Lewis" made me laugh. Love the nails btw! Gorgeous 💅🏾
Eleanor, I have a very recent case that happened literally in my village, Gracie spinks was murdered whilst tending to her horse in broad daylight. The whole village is shook and justice will never be found for her family. X
I feel so bad for him , I mean his life growing up. Then finding what he loved and his mom just walking out. However I hate what he did and feel horrible for the people they murdered. The whole thing is just heartbreaking. Great work Eleanor.
I can't believe that with 18 freaking victims, I have never heard of this case before! WOW! EDIT: yes, I have heard of this case once before. Still, it's insanity. It should have been all over everywhere.
Yes yes and yes!!!!!!! Lol I’m all caught up but I seemed to have missed this one some how. So glad I had one to watch tonight!!!! That first sentence puts a smile on my face!!!! “Soooooo today’s videooooo” 😊
It’s v sad bc tierri was actually very handsome he could have had a better life if he was born in a different era. Poor child. This is what happens when you don’t love your kids. Nature v nurture.
Thank you so much for the trigger warnings! I'm a recovering addict and although I've been in recovery for years, I just really don't want to hear about it sometimes ya know? So I really appreciate that, and im sure others do as well. Sending you all the love💝💝💝
As a mother I can’t imagine walking out on my children and missing their lives because they love someone of any or no gender and I raise them talking about relationships and whoever they date and fall in love with that all I ask is they treat each other with kindness and respect I just want to see my kids happy it would destroy me if any of them felt they couldn’t come to me or that I was missing out on their lives because I didn’t agree with who they are… like kids aren’t custom made to order.
You know, I feel bad for this man. Not that this is an excuse for what he did, but with such a crappy excuse for a family, it’s no wonder he turned out like he did.
It actually is. Let aside the fact that we cannot trust what he said about his family nor do we know if he was rejected because he behaved like a psychopath from early childhood on, it's actually extremely wonderous that he turned out like that because millions have and had it worse and never turned out like that.
Could you go over the Elizabeth Fritzle case? This is a missing person case, not a murder case. She was kidnapped and kept in the basement by her father for 24 years and her father just did horrible things to her. I’d be really interested to see how you cover this case! ❤️
I'm just wondering why all these serial killers appeared during 1950-1980... the yorkshire ripper, ramirez, Charles Manson and so many others.. it's like a wave that came through all over the world, tragically..
Trans is not the same as drag are you saying a transsexual or are you saying a drag agency!! I hate this nowadays anytime somebody's talking about gay drag queens or something like that they have to bring up the word trans so everyone has to be trained now right drag is completely different dressing as a girl it is not the same thing as a transsexual so I just want to make that clear cuz this shit is so irritating
18 years? For a serial killer? He got off light. Tierre deserved to suffer. They should've denied him pain medicine through his illness. I can't believe someone knowing they're going to die could commit these heinous murders knowing he was close to meeting his maker. God bless those they made suffer.
Please cover the Joyce Vincent case 🤞🏽she was was an English woman whose death went unnoticed for more than two years as her corpse lay undiscovered at her bedsit in north London.
I’m in a parking lot waiting for my uncle to get out of his drs appointment and I was losing my mind after being here for like 3 hours was about to drive off but now I can wait another hour 😂
Sorry for the victims. RIP all the victims. It so sad that the police couldn't protect them from this evil man. The first motive was, he was very evil, the second and third motive was also he was evil. No excuse or no justication for his killings..Btw...your fingers look like a witch finger, just joking😂😂
My great great great grandparents actually fled to Paris so they could be married Paris was very excepting and it was legal for them to get married there
I have a case suggestion! The murder of Johnny Clarke/Lisa Straub. I haven’t seen it covered, its one of those I think they arrested the wrong person for the crime. It’s from Toledo Ohio
If you want another amazing youtuber to watch (that actually collaborated with Eleanor) I would recommend Brooke Makenna. Her storytelling is great as well! Mollie Westbrook is also amazing. If you're looking for more thorough, investigation-like videos, Stephanie Harlow is really good
His story is so sad and I can see how much his past affected him but the murders are still inexcusable and I’m glad the victims have gotten their justice
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Everybody has suffered trauma of varying degrees. I have NO SUMPATHY!!
i’m also lesbian!
i feel sorry for the child he was, not who he became
couldn’t have said it better myself, i agree
I was abandoned by both parents abd abused by my maternal grandparents. Yet, I didn’t become a serial killer. Hmmmm
@@Valentina-Steinway that’s bc of different situations
@@Valentina-Steinway our minds work differently
@@Valentina-Steinway ok and people think different and respond differently that just like say "oh well I went through what this person went through maybe even more but I didn't commit suicide hMmM"
"A white man with short brown hair... which is like every white man... EVER." 😂😂😂
White guys with blonde hair: Phew, dodged a bullet there.
@@tylerhill1751 HA!
please that part took me out 😭😭
That was so ridiculous!!
I started laughing because it perfectly sounds like my dad and my brothers 🤣🤣🤣
Moral of the story: if you don't want children USE PROTECTION
That’s not guaranteed tho, but yea you should anyways. This is one of the cases where abortion should’ve defiantly been an option, instead putting him through all of that
@@themomotocoryxkenshinsbonnet yeah, I forgot to mention that if you have the option abortion is always a better choice than to scar a child
Sometimes protection doesn't work though- they might have used it and it failed anyway. Not saying that you're wrong or anything, just that things were different back in the 1960's [they didn't have abortion for one].
Ah yes, catholic France and its colonial territories c.1960, famously well known for their excellent sex ed and widely available birth control.
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This is one of those cases where it’s like “cool backstory, still murder,” First when you hear his backstory, you kind of feel bad, then you remember “ah yeah, 18+ people were robb3, tortured and murdered.”
Sad but atleast the bitchy ones died LMFAO.
@@ratemate458 thats messed up
@@ratemate458 dude no
@@ratemate458 huh?
@@ratemate458 I shouldn’t have laughed…
What this guy did was disgusting and inexcusable, but it’s really sad to know that he didn’t stand a chance so early after he was born. I grew up with extreme emotional, physical, & sexual abuse & spent a good bit of time in foster care & I’m not a serial killer, hence why I said what he’s done is absolutely inexcusable. But I truly do understand the anger in his heart. Everyone that was supposed intervene and make a difference failed him. Which is so sad because if just ONE person, only one was there for him emotionally it most likely would have made a world of difference
Edit:.. I’ve said it in multiple comments (including the original) but it seems like some people are skimming over what I’ve written and are looking for an argument. I am absolutely not making an excuse for his mans behavior! Personally, I believe he deserved way more of a punishment than he got. What I AM saying is that I truly wish someone in his life tried to intervene and make a difference. If they did, these innocent people possibly could have been saved. If you read through my comments I’ve explained how I can relate to his anger and resentment, but his actions were his choice, a choice he had control over. Which is why I said his actions are inexcusable! I’m fully aware he knew right from wrong and I am in no way justifying that whatsoever! The moral of this story is to always be kind to everyone because you never know what kind of difference you will make ❤️
I hope everyone has a blessed day 💜
@@anti.bctards7376 :/ wtf man
Yeah, don't neglect your kids, don't let someone be constantly harassed. When someone suffers so much... best case scenario they harm themselves (really bad), worst case scenario they harm a lot of other people (much worse).
Im sorry you had to go through that as an innocent child, I hope you are doing well .
@@anti.bctards7376 Get some help. :/
@@anti.bctards7376 freak
Eleanor please cover Elyse Pahler!!!
She was a teenage girl murdered by her 3 teenage classmates after being lured out of her home. They did it as a sacrifice to the devil so their band would become famous. Megan’s Body was loosely based on this case.
You cover cases with the utmost respect and detail and I have never seen another page cover this! P.s. you always release your videos right before my lunch break, you are the highlight of my day xoxo
This case is so heartbreaking it happen in my hometown and I just can’t go back there looking at the place the same :(
Oh my god i am so sick of people taking satanism and twisting it to be something evil, satism is about treating yourself like a palacr and taling care of yourself and not letting others harm you. Those kids are so dumb
Jennifer's body??
it’s jennifer’s body but it’s such a horrible case.
@@kellydedman1720 yes lmao
There is a Serial Killer on the loose here in Brazil and his name is Lazaro. Please cover up this case when he is caught, it's been weeks and he's still on the loose and police cannot find him.
He said: -"I am going to kill as many as possible." And since then, he just vanished..
Edit: HE'S WAS KILLED! WE'RE SAFE AGAIN!! THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED, MAY THE POOR SOULS THAT HE TOOK AWAY MAY REST IN PEACE. 🙏🏻
that’s terrifying!! stay safe
As a brazilian who didnt know about this-
*Wait what?*
Oof that's my dad's name
@@shananoni 😮
@@Hhaggot as far as I know though he's in Cuba so probably not the same guy
His mother is horrible; first, she refused to accept that he was gay, which she shouldn't even have an opinion on because she didn't even raise him, and second, she got up and left his drag show; why would you agree to go then?
*I am not excusing his actions.*
more like first she abandoned him and started a whole new family?..?.??
Why just blame the mother. They were terrible parents who didn't give him the care he needed. He hurt her other children and yet she gave him another chance. While his father gave him a chance only so that he didn't have to pay child support.
@@KK-cn6jv the other chance didnt exactly help either.. it was like she did it just for the sake of it. its p clear she did not care abt him..
@@kasvisingh5883 Neither of his parents did enough for him. It's exhausting when they blame the mother as if the father isn't a parent.
@@KK-cn6jv i agree mothers are always held up to higher expectations than fathers. His father was just as bad
This is quite literally the definition of, evil isn't born, it's made. However, his actions are entirely inexcusable and I'm so happy that the victims' families got justice.
I don’t think a lack of love makes a murderer on its own. I think it was largely due to his own choices and actions and addictions he himself chose. I’d say he had a sad childhood but it wasn’t even tragic or particularly damaging outside of emotional neglect which is, don’t get me wrong, terrible but like… comparing him to other cases if that is his cause for what he did it’s not even close to what the majority of other serial killers went through as kids and young adults to break their mental to that point. Murder is the worst crime imo and emotional neglect is not a strong enough thing to go through to make it there
@@pree76 Idk why it matters. People are a combination of genetics and environment, there's nothing else that can even theoretically influence what someone does, and you don't have control either way. Even if people were somehow born evil, which doesnt really make sense unless you are talking very casually and intuitively, that's just as sad as people being made evil by other people. When you get mad at people for being evil you are just coping with the cruelty of the universe and pretending people can control what happens in it
@@Kushufy People very much can control what happens on this planet, actually we have more influence than any other species by far. To suggest everything is out of our control especially CHOICES we make is absurd. People can simply make horrible, wrong, good, and interesting choices and believe it or not there is sometimes where neither environment or genetics don’t play a part. Getting hurt, having damage done to the brain, accidents that happen I wouldn’t really call the environment shaping you. That’s more so in reference to gaining morals, ideas, ways of speaking etc from those around whether it’s through just normal things or something like trauma. I think for the most part people are the accumulation of their genetics and environment but this persons genetics not environment really predicted the outcome because at the end of the day we have free will. We can simply choose to do the wrong thing no matter what we were taught or if our parents were good people or not.
@@pree76 You're asserting things without explaining how they can be true. Free will makes no sense, even theoretically. We have literally known this for thousands of years. There's two proposed ways something can be caused to happen, deterministically (as a reaction to something else) or randomly (for no reason whatsoever). No person on earth has ever been able to explain any third mechanism, and all theoretical science views the world either through determinism or randomness. If you think you're more intelligent than quantum scientists and somehow knows about something not a single one of them can understand, you are schizophrenic.
i wonder if he had received love from literally anyone at all in his life any of this would’ve happened. his story breaks my heart.
but it’s not an excuse. those poor victims, they didn’t deserve to receive his rage at the world. there isn’t an excuse for what he did to them.
The story of this subhuman POS does not break my heart in the least. Millions had and have it worse and never hurt a fly.
Yes definitely, the reason many of these killers are who they are is because of their childhood unfortunately which isn’t their fault that they end up that way, it’s the childhood that screws them up and it’s not an excuse but it is the reason, they don’t know any better you know
@@phangirlable you’re just invalidating so many people when you say “so many other people have it worse” it’s probably one of the most fucked up things you can say to someone who’s suffering. This man even though he is far from a good man had a horrible child hood can you deny that? You can say others had it worse which is true but you’re acting like the neglect that happened to him and others is ok because there are “worse” things out there. I know (well I hope) that’s not how you meant it but please think of what you’re saying, I have multiple incurable diseases that are very painful, scary, and have fucked up my life a lot but I get told (not all the time it’s pretty rare for someone to say this but when they do it sticks with me for a long time) “at least you don’t have cancer” or “well you have it better than someone with cancer” yes obviously I don’t have cancer but still these diseases have completely fucked my life up and I’m sure those people don’t mean it but saying things like that, that someone has it worse than someone who is suffering in their own way will very much hurt them. I apologize for ranting or being annoying if I was but I just want to help others understand that statements like those can really hurt. Thank you for reading and dealing with me have a great day or night!
@@languid-4535 💯
@@languid-4535 👏🏽 👏🏽👏🏽
I am sorry for those who had lost their life. Please R.I.P. sweet angels.
rip no one deserved that😞
@@anti.bctards7376 WHAT?!?!
@@angelica-of5xn Just ignore them and don't give any attention. They've commented stuff like this on other videos too
@@avalynn468 Okay, thank you, I thought they were serious.
@@angelica-of5xn what did the person say before deleting the comment?
His parents and guardian truly failed him.
do u know how psychopathy works? he was going to end up as a serial killer regardless
@@ImSakina_ not true, psychopathy doesn’t always lead to murder or other crimes, it’s only a risk factor. Most serial killers deal with a combination of upbringing issues as well as mental illness, it’s very rare that it’s just one or the other.
I truly do think the adults in his life failed him. But that being said, there’s no excuse for what he did.
@@ImSakina_ aspd* and your wrong
@@vampbie55 you’re* and you’re wrong
@@JavierPerez-zr2ic explain how I am wrong??
The fact that the killings stopped when Thierry was locked up and that Matheron didn't go off on his own with the killings post break up, I think lends itself to the theory that is wasn't Matheron doing the killing.
shut
@@anti.bctards7376 no u
It does make sense though
@@anti.bctards7376 ?
he was at least aiding and abetting murder though. he may not have actually done the killing but he was helping.
He was def killing old women who reninded him of his GMA. He would talk to them ahead of time and decide if theyd die based on whether they were nice to him or not?!!- thats your primary motive
And the things is I highly doubt anyone was not nice to him. He was a textbook psychopath and narcissist and they always think they are victims and wronged by everyone.
Maybe he killed the racist/homophobic ones. Doesn't justify it but makes sense
@@ava85898 Personally, as a small weak woman, if some random guy walked up to me I'd ignore them too and try to get away. Why would I have to humour some rando on the streets? I have no idea what their intentions are.
I find it interesting that he almost let them decide their own fate without them realizing.. like obviously being rude isn't worthy of death but he was looking for targets and this would have easily justified it in his mind. I also feel that the ones he tortured must have been ESPECIALLY nasty towards him.. Just a theory though
@@NoppityNope. They were not rude or nasty to him guaranteed. He was a narcissistic psychopath and they always imagine slights and wrongs against them and even reminding them of someone who, as they made up, "wronged" them is enough.
It’s crazy how some people become victims of their upbringing and go forth in the world to become as horrible as possible and others do all they can not to let that define them, but rather try to change and not be anything like their former caregivers.
And then, there are the ones who have a perfectly normal upbringing! It is absolutely crazy how a serial killer could literally just be ANY random person walking down the street 🤯🤯🤯
One is a good person, one is a subhuman monster and born psychopath.
@@phangirlable I don’t know, i don’t think anyone is born bad. I think everyone’s a result of their upbringing. I’m not excusing this guys actions, he’s a sick person. But I don’t believe in born psychopaths
@@totalrevengeance3904 i agree because this said psychopath could be that way purely because no one ever told them no and they build a sense of entitlement to the point where a life is something just in thier way that they need to get rid of.
@@totalrevengeance3904 Look, I get that you want to believe in the good in people and that psychopaths are a scary concept but studies on the brain of psychopaths and serial killers (who are psychopaths) have shown that this is a condition in the brain (or more precisely, certain areas in the brain are not very active/pretty much dead). And yes, people are born with that just like they can be born with other brain conditions (something mostly regarded as positive for example: being highly gifted in math) or the condition can be caused by certain areas of the brain being damaged when sustaining a head injury/having a tumor etc.
There are plenty of psychopaths who grew up in perfectly normal homes who showed psychopathic behavior very early on and even started to kill as children.
And yes, the thought that you could have a child that is just born evil is very scary. But it happens (thankfully pretty rarely). It also happens with people being born as pedophiles (not a very well known fact but pedos usually start molesting kids when they hit puberty, as in that could be your 12 - 14 year old dear son, not just when they have become creepy old dudes).
It’s crazy that if he wasn’t a murderer he could’ve done so much for the french trans community
Moral of the story? Neglect, Homophobia and Racism goes a long long way
honestly. he had a lot of potential
..but he did so instead of helping the trans community he hindered it.
shut up oh my god 😭
Its heartbreaking to know that even the slightest bit of compassion and care in a single person’s life could have meant that 18 people wouldn’t have been murdered.
Bullshit. No one who isn't a total psychopath does what this monster did. There are many serial killers who had normal upbringings and had people who loved them. They are simply not human and couldn't feel love or compassion if it hit them in the face.
@@phangirlable that is a very convenient and safe excuse to assume that he was in fact a serial killer because of something innate. unfortunately, we will never know for sure, but i doubt the horrible things he dealt with in his life helped...
@@phangirlable hun why are you replying the same shit on every person who's saying his upbringing failed him. nature and nurture are dependent on each other. give it up sweetheart.
@@FriedaLeahx Because I like calling out psychos.
@@sara-up6pw It's not convenient, it's reality. You theory is disproven by the hundreds of millions of had and have it worse and don't become serial killers and the serial killers who had perfectly fine and loving upbringings. They are usually born that way or, get this, have an accident involving a head injury at some point and then people were like, wow, they completely changed. It's in the brain.
***CASE REQUEST***
Fidel Lopez case is SO gruesome and intriguing... There isn't really a long or detailed documentary on it
He could've shaved his hair and taken off the earring and he wouldn't be caught bruh
When you put it like that.... 🙀
He probably didn't notice the sketches
His life story kind of breaks my heart.
Yes i agree. The system and his family totally failed him
same, but then again he was a serial killer...
@@rinrinrinnz many serial killers come from bad homes like this. not excusing his actions because the were horrific but his home life was terrible and something no child should go through
@@arls8096 i know, i feel bad for his childhood but feeling bad for him makes me feel guilty about the victims too
@@rinrinrinnz don’t feel bad for him. you can understand that he went thru a lot but feeling bad for him just sounds wrong. anyways rip to the victims
could you please cover the ana kriejal case? it was a murder case that happened in ireland in 2018 and i’d love to see you cover it 💜
@@kittygrant7898 in her description she says leave requests in comments
@@kittygrant7898 in her description, it says that she doesnt take requests from email
Yeah that would be a good one given that they’re apparently the youngest convicted murderers in Ireland. I know they’re minors but why try so hard to hide their identities? They took someone’s life and they’re clearly a danger to society so people should have the right to know. This is my American point of view lol.
@@katcardenascruz it’s more so for the protection of the two boys families. We can’t confirm but it’s possible that one or both of the boys also have siblings and if they were known they could end up being attack which doesn’t make anything right.
show us your nails.
Everytime I finish one of these I say it's the last one I watch.
But these are too addictive
Same! But I definitely skip the ones about kids.. those I just can't stomach at all
@@ciatayagermanjenson8689 me too, the only videos of hers without a red bar at the bottom is ones with childrens’ deaths. I have a toddler and it just gets to me too much.
Why would you say it's the last one you watch???
Yeah, she's great at what she does.
Said no one ever:
@@chelseebarber3903 I know lots of people who get too spooked out or upset at hearing stuff like this, but can't avoid the curiosity of learning.
Why do these psychos always take their anger out on EVERYONE but the people that really hurt them in the first place??,
🤷♀️They somehow still care for them? They’re less likely to get caught
Not to mention most of the alleged "abuse" and "being wronged" is imaged because, well, psychopaths.
Because psychopaths just like hurting people even if they are friends, family, co-workers. I have met one before and she messed up so many lives. Just because she felt like it.
Be they have some type of metal hold on them.
Because*
The fact that his life could have been completely different if just someone cared for him makes me so sad. This all didn’t have to happen :(
I cant imagine living your entire life, living 80-90 years and expecting at that point to probably die of natural causes.... and then to be murdered. You did your time on this earth and then someone just takes your life. Horrific
I have sympathy for Thierry
@@MrAbcdesh yeah his life did suck. But there so many people sho went through that and even worse yet chose to better their life go to therapy and did their best to better other children's life and not make them go through the same thing. There are many ways to deal with that he made a terrible one. I have empathy for the child he was not the murderer he is
I’m only a couple minutes into the video but I wonder if they call him the grim reaper killer because he was targeting older people? idk
that’s a good idea!! id like to think the name is because of your thoughts
@@rangerjaython21 it sounds kind of morbid but you know that story where a grim reaper comes when it’s your time? I guess he just took the role of the grip reaper which isn’t okay but 💀
I think thats a good theory. Like he probably thought those women were going to die soon anyway, so take their lives. Its still monstrous though... those sweet old women probably would have died peacefully and instead they died in terror
He took the Unsolved boys' advice literally
No idea about that, but in France he's apparently called "the old lady killer"
God, sometimes I feel like the parents should be on trial along with their kids just for having done such a shitty job!
Yeah, tell that to the parents who were cursed with a psychopath as a child.
@@phangirlable oh yea cuz he was naturally born to feel unwanted and even despised by everyone in his life for 18+ years which in turn caused him to be a horrible human being 🙄🙄🙄 imagine thinking that a child with mental issues is the problem when they have parents who literally abandoned him at birth
@@MarshmallowFudgeUp lol You don't get it, do you? XD 1) Yes, people born as psychopaths display psychopathic behavior often from early childhood on (cruelty to animals or other children, arson, pretty crime, antisocial behavior etc.) and thus people want nothing to do with them and parents don't know how to handle having a monster as a child. Some even start to kill as children.
But the funniest (would be funny of it wasn't so sad and lead to dozens of serial rapists and killers being released from prison and going back to killing) thing here is that you believe what the serial killing psychopath said about his childhood and his experiences. All serial killers/psychopaths are pathological liars. They lie about everything, including inconsequential things for sh*ts and giggles. They particularly lie about things to manipulate gullible people like you (and apparently Eleonor and most of the ppl in the comments here) and even psychiatrists fall for it on the regular.
@@phangirlable here's a take that'll probably blow your mind: sociopaths, or people w anti-social personality disorder, are people too
the way u talk about them is so inhumane- like christ calm down. not every person w apd is a pathological liar my dude. and honestly if those kids were shown extra support and attention at the first signs of becoming serial killers, they would understand it doesn't benefit them to cause others pain. cuz, ya kno, not every person w apd is a murderer.
@@phangirlable and fiy, feeling pity or sympathy for a serial killer doesnt mean they automatically agree w their crimes. in fact, it's rarer not to feel some amount of empathy for anyone regardless of who they are and what theyve done
That story about the Drag performance really is heartbreaking. Obviously, nothing about his upbringing excuses him… but, I can’t help but empathize with that young performer being crushed by his own mom.
He was fighting with his siblings so she dumped him on his father? How about parent your child for once in his life??? No one ever bothered to try to teach him to be a decent person.
You don't have to teach children not to be a psychopathic serial killer and millions had and have it worse.
@@phangirlable You definitely do need to teach children to understand the feelings of others and not to act selfishly. If a parent sees their child acting cruel and violent towards other kids, they have a responsibility to intervene.
@@phangirlable stop being so ignorant, children are easily influenced,if a parent raises a child a certain way the child is obviously going to be influenced because that's the way they were raised. if you raise your child to be a decent human being that's the way they're gonna appear as if you raise them the opposite way THEN OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GONNA BE A PIECE OF SHIT because it's the way the parents raise the child it has nothing to do with the child because they're CHILDREN,young and impressionable,come correct.
@@mazande444 Stop being so ignorant. Many serial killers (and psychopaths in general) are raised by good parents in intact homes with perfectly fine childhoods. Hundreds of millions of people have hellish childhoods and don't become psychopaths, even less serial killers. Do you realize how stupid you sound? lol
@@phangirlable tf are u talking abt? Plenty if not most serial killer cases have a history of child hood abuse involved. You don’t just develop those tendencies out of nowhere. Abuse and trauma literally alter the brain especially when it’s going on in ur most developmental years.
Emotional abuse is abuse. And has exactly the same impact as physical and sexual abuse.
No, it doesn't. Not to mention we can't believe anything he said about his life.
@@phangirlable yes. it does. mental health is just as important as physical health
Do you think that people who are sexually or physically abused are not also emotionally and psychologically abused? They have to endure multiple forms of abuse, not just one kind.
@@ssandiaa No, it doesn't. It can both have an impact but it has different impacts.
@@cleoldbagtraallsorts3380 Who said they were not? They consequences are just different.
That lady not telling police because she is traumatized is kinda not smart I understand that she was scared but she knows what he looks like what if he tries to kill her cause she’s survived and didn’t want to get caught?
18 years for EIGHT murders? That's the close to the minimum most people get for one murder. He should have got life without parole.
I dont have any sympathy for this guy, but damn, every single person in his life failed him. I wonder how different his life couldve been :(
“The only thing we’ve learned from history is that we don’t learn from history.” Racism is still alive and thriving
Racism now and 100 years ago is no were near the same.
@@thanos7110 doesn't mean it isn't still bad. It shouldn't be there at all
@@thanos7110 nobody said it was the same
@@samanthaengle5047 he was the one that suffered from racism
shut up about racism, this is a bloody murder case
obviously there's no excuse for murder of any kind and i hope the victims of these crimes are resting easy... but personally i can't help but feel bad for thierry too in ways, and find this tragic in so many more manners. i know it can seem easy to simplify things into individual people who've commited these kinds of crimes as being "evil", "monsters", "incapable of empathy", etc, but cases like this really evidentiate in just how many ways homophobia, racism, the prospect of poverty (/capitalism), and drug addiction can negatively affect society, beyond what's more easily visible.
ok Italian macaroni
@@anti.bctards7376 you alright bro?
@@anti.bctards7376 what other macaroni is there other than italian, also r/rareinsults i guess
He WAS a an evil monster incapable of empathy and you can't believe anything he has ever said about his own life. Psychopaths always think themselves to be "victims" and "wronged" by everyone.
@@phangirlable he literally was wronged by others though regardless of the horrible things he did lol. the world isn't black and white and neither are people. again needless to say that doesn't justify torture and murder, i just feel like that's too much of a convenient point of view so that ppl don't feel the need to look at certain societal problems and their effects, like i said.
I was going to take a nap, but now I have something much better to do!
same 😭
Legit same thing here 😂
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Did she clear up who the other 3 victims were? Because he said he had murdered 21. Maybe they never figured out if it was true.
Maybe the people that survived he thought he killed?
@@serenity_kay There were still only 2 survivors, and I'm sure they told him of that given he was interrogated for such a long period of time. I wouldn't at all doubt him killing 21-23 people, about half of all serial killers are estimated to have killed more than they admit to/can remember/have been discovered. Can't remember the exact number but Ted Bundy was confirmed to have 30 victims but they think the real number could be as high as 70-150.
@@shelbymasters El.
He looked so beautiful doing drag it’s a shame the horrible things he did to people. May his victims R.I.P
It’s always weird when I find myself saying “poor guy” during the backstory of the serial killer’s life. I have to remind myself that this person became a vicious murderer.
This goes to show how criminals are a symptom of society. He is guilty of every crime, not every neglected bullied kid becomes a killer. But had he met kindness along the way, he might've been a decent, maybe even good person. I am so sorry for all his victims, and also for every young black and gay man that is pushed to violence as a means to escape.
Your shiny glossy hair are distracting. How do you have such gorgeous hair? Teach me your ways lady.
Function of beauty.
Yea function of beauty, it's all she uses on her hair
yeah it’s weird cause my hair has been falling out from using it
@@laurenisdead814 lots of people have said that!
@@laurenisdead814 the price point put me off to start but also the claims from so many people saying it’s causing their hair to fall out is just the icing on the cake
if that first survivor would've helped she could've saved 17 lives
Damn he was failed right out of the womb. Never had a chance growing up. Just a rollercoaster ride of self destruction and murder and violence.
This case is sick, I was sitting there like poor boy this must be hard and then reminding myself that this “poor boy” killed 21 people 🤡
So sad that in whole life he was unhappy and was treated poorly,,,.. experience does change people sometimes for worst and sometimes for best. In this case for worst. So unfortunate,.
He was clearly a psychopath all his life. Zero moral conscience, criminal behavior from early on, turned brutal serial killer at an early age. Just pure evil and his upbringing has nothing to do with it.
@@phangirlable actually his upbringing obviously has everything to do with it
@@marvelousvinson9132 are u decades behind in science?
@@ImSakina_ no ... I’m not... his upbringing plays a part in how he grew up... that isn’t the case for everyone... but if you pay attention to how he was brought up and how his killings were done you can see a correlation
@@phangirlable you’re literally under every comment calling the murderer a psychopath.
He is showing more signs of being a sociopath than a psychopath (sociopathy is made so like Ed Kemper who had an abusive mother, psychopathy is born with so like Ted Bundy who had a healthy family life etc) but since the killer here was not particularly diagnosed with anything, it looks like the cause was all the neglect and abandonment.
It also means that his guardians were partly responsible for what happened for not socialising or nurturing their child. The killers who are not straight up psychopaths, always have some sort of butterfly effect thing happening to them (bullying, abuse, SA, ptsd, mental illnesses etc) so, feeling some sort of empathy for the killer is not so unjustified 🧍🏽♀️
He was such a beautiful boy, its a shame that his life didn't turn out differently...
i could literally have you narrating every single audiobook i listen to.
this is sad all around. he could have been an lgbtq+ icon if he had a proper upbringing and didn't turn to drugs and murder
Born at the wrong time. He'd be more loved now
Dude is a coward for targeting people who are incapable of fighting for their life
Disclaimer: HIV isn’t a death sentence anymore! No there’s no cure. But you can live a happy normal life with it xx
There’s a cure ! Look up dr. Sebi
@@monetmonroe4644 there is no offical cure for AIDS.
@@lilksmo8861 that the cdc hasn’t officially released... but dr sebi went to the Supreme Court with his cure for aids it’s documented
@@monetmonroe4644 all he has is a book. His not even a real doctor. His a whack job.
@@monetmonroe4644 be died 5 years ago. His one of those whack jobs that isn’t even a doctor. Just because you call yourself a doctor doesn’t make you one.
me: *watching anime, eating takis.*
sees notif: eleanor nea- *clicks aggressively*
Dear historia-/j
but same
Same lol
Same
sasageyo
@@1822romantic shinzou wo sasageyo
Serial killers shouldn't get "minimum" sentences, they should get life without the possibility of parole.
I agree! That shouldn't even be said...
I think he took "Be gay, do crime" to seriously
(This is a joke, please don't take it seriously. I am sorry for those who had lost their life)
Yep
i legitimately am mad that this is a semi funny comment. it shouldn't be funny at all but fucking hell my sense of humor is absolutely fucked.
i am absolutely going to hell
@@nameofthename i'm already going to hell because i'm gay lmao
i mean u shouldnt joke about topics like this no offence.
@@Emma-dp8lh dark humor
" The first 7 years are the most important years of every child as they set the basis for overall success in life. They are also very important for every society as this is the best chance to influence future prosperity, inclusiveness and social stability. "
hello fellow eleanor fans. i hope everyone has a wonderful day and i hope you are taking care of yourself! 🥰
Back at u and God bless😍😍
Thanks lovely, and the same to you 🥰🌟☀️✨
Thanks Brandyyy! and Ditto! ☺️
I wonder how different Thierry's life would've been, had his parents decided to put him up for adoption, maybe all of these murders wouldn't have happened.
just a reminder for those people watching who don't know alot about HIV, there are treatments to prevent HIV from being transmitted or progressing nowadays, and many people with HIV are living normal lives. The info in this video - the concept of HIV being a death sentence - is an artifact of the time period these murders happened in and when Thierry was diagnosed.
His parents were horrible.....but I do feel people have the right to give up a child and not be a parent. I feel it shouldn't be looked down apon as much as it is now, people should be able to give a child up for adoption or whatever. Being forced into parenthood is eht causes bad parents vs " oh! We are having a child. Not planned but cool!".....if someone fr don't want to be a parent ..Orting yourself apon them or forcing the kid on them only makes bad parents. It's not the child's fault I'm not saying that I'm just saying, as sad as it may sound ...if someone doesn't want to be a parent. Don't force it .
Side note Eleanor looks absolutely gorgeous today I mean that hair and eyeliner my goodness
I was going to mention her looks as well but I felt like my comment was already too long. Such a gorgeous young lady
How am I supposed to concentrate on the story when her eye liner is so perfect
I KNOW AND HER LASHES ARE SO PRETTY!
Close your eyes so youwont be blinded by the beuty
LITERALLY
fr shes so mf gorgeous
Ikr. My eyeliner is always just turns out to be raccoon eyes. It’s just terrifying when I do it tbh.
Not excusing him at all because what he did was awful and horrible - and going after old ladies and beating them, torturing them and killing them so brutally like that? Like damn dude.
But on the other side I wonder what would have happened if he had had the more important people care and be accepting and supportive of him. :/ Maybe he would of still turned out to be this serial killer. Maybe not. Who knows. :/
I'm glad this other dude won't get out either.
EDIT:
I'm not excusing this dude. Like no.
My trail of thought was more in a different universe, world, reality, would he still have been a serial killer if XYZ had happened. Or was this dude just born a serial killer? That's what I meant. Hopefully this makes better sense. 😭
Mmmmm idk. He was born effed up. His shifty past isn't an excuse to rob,torture and kill. No.way.
@@Melicious8675 i don’t think they’re excusing his actions, just speculating how much his upbringing and early life effected his later life and his motivation to murder. the nature vs. nurture debate is a big one.
Or maybe the too young sperm and egg were to blame!!
This was exactly my train of thoughts like had he had stability in his life maybe he wouldn’t have such bottled up aggression towards old women(I’m also not excusing his actions nor am I shifting the blame) But being emotional deprived through out your life by the same people who are suppose to love you leaves a different kind of scar. This is also reiterated by fact that he only attached “mean” old women.
@@lethuthandomaphalala3357 'Mean' in his view!!
i'm sorry i just have to.. why didn't ladybug and cat noir show up??😩
"I'm not French, I'll tell you that." This chickadee cracks me UP.
Looking forward to watching this. Getting myself a hot cuppa, then gonna snuggle in bed with this video.
Trying to do my homework and watch this video at the same time: Interpersonal communication is really important so you can kill older women? I wonder if that is something personal to the killer.... Wait, what?
Lol omg wait are you saying the class you were doing homework for was interpersonal communication while trying to watch this because same!!!!
Omg...I'm actually doing my hw....and listening to this
@@morticiaaddamz1 yes! It was!
Did Eleanor just upload 7 minutes ago? Yes
Are there comments from 12 minutes ago? Yes
There are many "morals" to this story, but the one that sticks out to me is, be careful of who you're rude to. It could make you a target.
If the killer was actually smart he would take his earing out and dyed or shaven his hair.
Thank god he didn't though!!!!!
Eleanor: *uploads*
All of us: *CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK*
yes LOL me
IKR
THAT WAS ME RN
YESSSS!😭
Caught me red handed lol
*When you're from Paris, France:* I'm scared 😃
really? it's not like it is current.
don’t even, Paris is such a beautiful place. you’re lucky😩😍 (excluding crimes and murders lol)
When you're from the states and literally live in the country that created the term serial killer 👀
Sorry for your anxiety about what happened so long ago just know that u are protected
@@petahoee8281 I go to the same school as one went to lmao
This is in no way funny and I'm so sorry for all these poor innocent victims but the "Hair like Carl Lewis" made me laugh. Love the nails btw! Gorgeous 💅🏾
I will never excuse a serial killer but the chain of events of his life promoted his horrific lifestyle. It all starts from neglect.
They’d be his step-siblings if they came from the man from a previous marriage. If they are born from the same mother, they’re his half-siblings.
Eleanor, I have a very recent case that happened literally in my village, Gracie spinks was murdered whilst tending to her horse in broad daylight. The whole village is shook and justice will never be found for her family. X
I’ve seen this case…. So sorry for the loss of everyone who knew her in your village/town and the shock it must have caused x
This was half hour away from me :(
Me being french being so happy that she is finally doing a french case 😅😁
I feel so bad for him , I mean his life growing up. Then finding what he loved and his mom just walking out. However I hate what he did and feel horrible for the people they murdered. The whole thing is just heartbreaking.
Great work Eleanor.
I can't believe that with 18 freaking victims, I have never heard of this case before! WOW! EDIT: yes, I have heard of this case once before. Still, it's insanity. It should have been all over everywhere.
Me too!
You forgot that Jean-Thierry Mathurin, got out in 2009, as a Student in Paris, I’m kinda scared even though he is 55 years old
I have to say it...
IS THAT THE GRIM REAPER?!?!?!
*grim reapers noises*
(I’m sorry, I had too and Rest In Peace to the victims.)
Anyone else’s day made when she posts 😇❤️🔥
Yes yes and yes!!!!!!! Lol
I’m all caught up but I seemed to have missed this one some how. So glad I had one to watch tonight!!!! That first sentence puts a smile on my face!!!! “Soooooo today’s videooooo” 😊
I’ve never heard of this case and I’ve been listening to true crime for years now! Thank you! Sad what happened to these vulnerable people :(
It’s v sad bc tierri was actually very handsome he could have had a better life if he was born in a different era. Poor child. This is what happens when you don’t love your kids. Nature v nurture.
Thank you so much for the trigger warnings! I'm a recovering addict and although I've been in recovery for years, I just really don't want to hear about it sometimes ya know? So I really appreciate that, and im sure others do as well.
Sending you all the love💝💝💝
I don't care how much I know about a case, if she covers it, I'm watching it 😍
As a mother I can’t imagine walking out on my children and missing their lives because they love someone of any or no gender and I raise them talking about relationships and whoever they date and fall in love with that all I ask is they treat each other with kindness and respect I just want to see my kids happy it would destroy me if any of them felt they couldn’t come to me or that I was missing out on their lives because I didn’t agree with who they are… like kids aren’t custom made to order.
Just bc u went through stuff in ur life doesn’t mean u have to end somebody else’s... how’s it their fault. And no I don’t feel pity
You know, I feel bad for this man. Not that this is an excuse for what he did, but with such a crappy excuse for a family, it’s no wonder he turned out like he did.
It actually is. Let aside the fact that we cannot trust what he said about his family nor do we know if he was rejected because he behaved like a psychopath from early childhood on, it's actually extremely wonderous that he turned out like that because millions have and had it worse and never turned out like that.
@@phangirlable oh my god ure under every comment defending racism, homophobia, and abusive parents, can u shut up bro?
Could you go over the Elizabeth Fritzle case? This is a missing person case, not a murder case. She was kidnapped and kept in the basement by her father for 24 years and her father just did horrible things to her. I’d be really interested to see how you cover this case! ❤️
i think she did it
I'm just wondering why all these serial killers appeared during 1950-1980... the yorkshire ripper, ramirez, Charles Manson and so many others.. it's like a wave that came through all over the world, tragically..
Trans is not the same as drag are you saying a transsexual or are you saying a drag agency!! I hate this nowadays anytime somebody's talking about gay drag queens or something like that they have to bring up the word trans so everyone has to be trained now right drag is completely different dressing as a girl it is not the same thing as a transsexual so I just want to make that clear cuz this shit is so irritating
18 years? For a serial killer? He got off light. Tierre deserved to suffer. They should've denied him pain medicine through his illness. I can't believe someone knowing they're going to die could commit these heinous murders knowing he was close to meeting his maker. God bless those they made suffer.
Please cover the Joyce Vincent case 🤞🏽she was was an English woman whose death went unnoticed for more than two years as her corpse lay undiscovered at her bedsit in north London.
I’m in a parking lot waiting for my uncle to get out of his drs appointment and I was losing my mind after being here for like 3 hours was about to drive off but now I can wait another hour 😂
Sorry for the victims. RIP all the victims. It so sad that the police couldn't protect them from this evil man. The first motive was, he was very evil, the second and third motive was also he was evil. No excuse or no justication for his killings..Btw...your fingers look like a witch finger, just joking😂😂
".. and that meant he only had like, 2 friends in his whole high school"
Me: 😳😳
My great great great grandparents actually fled to Paris so they could be married Paris was very excepting and it was legal for them to get married there
I have a case suggestion! The murder of Johnny Clarke/Lisa Straub. I haven’t seen it covered, its one of those I think they arrested the wrong person for the crime. It’s from Toledo Ohio
Started watching other true crime youtubers and they just dont compare to Eleanor's story telling!
thanks for amazing content :)
too true i can’t watch anyone else
her + bella fiore are my favourites the others just don't hit the same
If you want another amazing youtuber to watch (that actually collaborated with Eleanor) I would recommend Brooke Makenna. Her storytelling is great as well! Mollie Westbrook is also amazing. If you're looking for more thorough, investigation-like videos, Stephanie Harlow is really good
eleanor & bailey sarian are my faves
Georgia Marie is also amazing, plus she does very good historical videos!! 😌
Just when I started to get bored, bam here she is🥰
It was just when I was getting bored of having no more videos