We Were Both Wrong (Full Video)
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Chris Zaldain addresses the backlash from his latest vlog on Day 3 of Lake Murray.
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I should have left when he made it known he didn’t want me there. Lesson learned.
I loved the response. It reminded me of an old Seinfeld episode. When Jerry told Kramer's date the same thing because she was heckling Jerry on stage during his stand up act.
Nah. Just fish and dont respond.
I would have stayed if I were you, like I commented in the prior video…. Livesay and Hudnall fished right beside each other, heck even Kyle Patrick fell in the water and almost hit Livesay’s boat.
I would have told him to shut the fuck up! What's he going to do? He could have caught a bass if he wasn't sitting there bitching at you the whole time like a female. You were too nice to him IMO.
Nope. Stay next time and fish and ignore that mess, especially when he talked about knowing something about tournaments. He knows about the unspoken rules on the water. If he was fishing a tournament and you asked and he said no so it's free to fish, but the on the water rule of respect for the sport would be if he was tournament fishing then you would give that point to him because that's my 2 cents.
🤦🏻Dude. This whole thing could've been avoided if you pulled up slower and kindly greeted/acknowledged them. Then explained that you've been working that spot for a tournament and asked them if it was cool if you fished it alongside them for a bit. If not, then amicably move on. I think BASS anglers forget how DISRUPTIVE their overpowered motorboats are to regular folks on the water just trying to enjoy the peace of outdoors. Public waters are shared. Pro Anglers don't own the water, but you pulled up like you did. That's why that guy felt disrespected.
I'm still a fan tho. Might be worth reaching out to that dude and hashing it out. We'd all love to see some respectful resolution.
It could have been avoided by him just going and hitting another one of the hundreds of points that herring were spawning on that particular day.
@@abucad8687 Nah he doubled downed and still tried to blame the other guy. I think we saw the real Chris and thats it lol.
@@abucad8687
1000%. I feel let down because I’m a Zaldain guy… now it’s like, not so much.
Exactly, I primarily fish from a kayak it’s got everything my boat has but just like the platform. I can’t count how many times I’ve been rolled up on like this both during tournaments and weekend guys. That being said more often than not guys are nice, communicate and we all fish the same spot. Why? Because we communicated and figured out a solution, this was just pure entitlement BS (on the pro side).
You were wrong own it
Was he though?
If another angler would have rolled up on you the way you did that local you would have had an 1 1/2hr podcast trashing him and complaining this is what’s wrong with professional fishing and try to ruin that guys name and would have had 1 of your fishing buddies come on to agree with you! Then Trait would have went on social media and bash the guy over and over again. Just ask Trey and Wheeler and the other rookies y’all harp on all time! But when you are the arrogant fisherman in the wrong it’s other people’s fault. Sounds about right!
Coming from someone that fished full time for 11 years as my sole income I will say this...I would not have pulled up on anyone that was already fishing a place (competitor or local). I made it a point to avoid these situations. If I were in your shoes, once I saw the boat on the point I would have skipped it and went to the next one in your rotation.
Even though public water is public water, I would not have even attempted it. On Lake Murray, especially during the herring spawn, there are so many places to catch them.
Guaranteed if someone pulls up on me and limits my movement, casting or decisions in relocating my boat position, there will be a conflict.
I've had to abandon places I was catching them for this same reason. I have pulled up and had a conversation before hand, letting them know that this place has me in the top ten and most times they've backed off and let me fish it. On those rare occasions where it was going to be a conflict I adjusted and left with no hard feelings.
Had this place been shared between you and another competitor, I'm sure you both would have discussed it the morning of or the night before. He deserves the same.
Me and Steve Kennedy were sharing fish in an FLW tournament, neither of us knew it until the top ten cut, once we learned we were, we discussed it and came to an arrangement.
The video, from my perspective, isn't a good look. I realize it's how you make a living, it's how I used to make mine too. Just remember this, if the locals don't want you there, the Chamber of Commerce and tourism won't want you there due to pressure from the public.
Yea no lake, chamber of commerce will turn away a big pay check that they get from a major pro tournament 😂. Money talks over anything.
@@blind_eye_fishing you're wrong there. I personally know of it happening by 3 separate ones.
@@blind_eye_fishing and just so you're clear, the tournament organization does not pay the chamber of commerce, those organizations are paid BY the Chamber of Commerce. Please only speak to what you know.
@@craig3164 the tournament coming to town brings in people that don't live there. This equals to commerce (money) coming into the area and town smh. Talk like you actually have intelligents over trying to belittle someone else. You know every penny that comes into a town is taxed, that money goes into the towns pockets. Not to mention yes tournament pay the town to setup in locations and rent places to do all the activities. So again I'll say money talks over bull crap like you speak. Now take a hike until you have actual facts to speak about.
@@craig3164 not to mention most chamber of commerce charge for licenses and permits to set up, you know the weigh in areas, tackle shows that travel with events ect. Smh just because you fished a few tournaments doesn't mean you have a single clue what goes on behind the scenes and or what it takes to put on a tournament event of that caliber.
We all have moments we wish we could handle differently. That being said I would have given the courtesy when I pulled up to talk to him first. I probably would’ve been pretty upset personally if someone pulled up on me like that and just started fishing. Give respect get respect. Just my humble opinion. For what it’s worth.
Appreciate your opinion James 👊🏽
Being a visitor to another fisherman’s lake you should always pull up slow and ask if it’s OK to join in a spot. It’s a public place of recreation, not a job site. Put a black eye on an already failing Bassmaster organization.
No worries Chris. Been watching Bassmaster for years and you have always been a stand up guy. Fish on! In time this will all pass. Shit happens on and off the water.
Chris you’re a great guy and fisherman I think the world of you but this is just my opinion and question, would it not have been respectful to just cruise up about 50ft from behind the guy shut your engine down and say hey I’m fishing the elites and need a few fish from this area would you be cool if I go ahead of you and fish that elbow? That just shows you respect him fishing there and if he says yes then that shows he respects you, I understand your side completely and his I’ve been on the tournament side of fishing to pay the bills, so I do understand what you’re saying but that is how I’ve always handled it and I’ve never encountered an issue.
You seemed a little out of line.
I get both points, bottom line. I think you were a little too close for comfort, considering he was already pulled up on that spot that said this is a prime example of why tournaments should be held during the week and not weekend that way there’s less cluster on busy Waters I’m a big fan of yours Chris, and I realize that everybody makes mistakes anglers or newbies things happen. I think that if you approached the location a little differently and said hey, I’m fishing a tournament bud. Do you mind if I throw a couple gas into the spot that I previously fished? I think there would’ve been a better outcome it’s in the past now best of luck with the rest of your season, and thanks for sharing
You yelled at them for pulling their phone out on you while you record the entire thing and try to publicly shame them on social media.....
I think you were in the wrong, Chris. He was there first and therefore didn’t “show up to your work” to disrupt it. Your tournament doesn’t supersede another person on the same water. In fact that’s the lamest excuse ever uttered on the water. Who cares if you’re in a tournament.
Us weekend fishermen also don’t get discounts with sponsored trucks, boats, tackle and electronics. We pay full price to fish. I see no reason a pro thinks they have more right to fish a spot when someone is already there. I’ve seen Randy Blauket make a couple of vids saying they should give up their spot to him.
For all we know dude could have been watching Chris fish this point on bass live just to pull up and fish it hoping Chris would pull up. Some people would really do that. Other than that, if that isn't the case, then I agree that Chris is wrong.
The guy might have only had one day off to fish, if he’s there first then let him fish and don’t harass him
One makes a living off it the other doesn't, I have seen countless videos this week of people just play fishing literally moving spots to let the MLF boats do their thing, you sister cousin brother lovers are the only ones who think it's okay for someone to try to claim and entire point 100 yards off the bank, I swear people like you are the main reason not everyone should be allowed to breed or vote.
This is an awesome example of guys like Chris thinking they matter more than everyone else
You have claimed to be one of the champions of the sport. You constantly talk about how to improve this sport, but then pull a stunt like this. You had a great opportunity with this video to say “hey, I messed up.” Instead you double down on you being right when you clearly pulled in on the guy. Super disappointing to see a “vet” behave this way.
Whoa dude. Im a fan, ive been a fan...but you both weren't wrong. Just you were wrong. Youre just acting like an insolent entitled child.
You pull up on a point he was on first then threaten him? He was there first he wasn’t intentionally stopping you from making money why would you threaten to do that to him? Just because you were in a tournament doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve to be there, I would have done the same thing he did you were disrespectful and acted entitled
Agreed. I was in team tourney once and a guy pulled up on us got to like 30 ft away. My partner casted and dropped his lure right at the guys feet on his boat. Dude started running his mouth. My partner said your to close. The guy kept runnin his mouth. My trolling motor went to 10. Straight to his boat. Then I didn't know my partner was gonna do this but. Yep. Straight upside the guys cheek with a spinnerbait. Yanked it 3 times to break it off. Then asked the guy if he wanted more. When we pulled away the guy was on his knees holding his cheek. Blood everywhere. His partner was sitting in the back of boat wide eyed. Never said a word. Heard no more if it. Better watch out who you run your mouth to. Might get shot these days. Happened on high rock lake n.c. if ya ever see a guy out there with a scar on his cheek. Yeah my buddy did that to him.
The entitlement is insane. Just because you're in a tournament doesn't mean you get to bully people on the water
This. That guy probably has one or two days off after working 40 hours that week...and here comes some entitled tournament guy tries to bully him off the spot he was at first.
@@TheAverageFisherman99 The other guy started mouthing off first trying to claim it was his spot, not the other way around.
There was plenty of room for multiple boats and there was no reason to start mouthing off in the first place. Usually in that situation the two boaters would ask "Having any luck?" and have a friendly conversation... but the twat starting mouthing off and trying to cause problems right from the start
Sure he could have done the mature thing and just ignored the mouthpiece, and there was no reason to get closer to his boat to continue the argument, but this whole thing would have been avoided if the first idiot didn't start it
The guy you rolled up on actually handled himself more professionally than you did.
Just cause your in a tournament gives you no right to take his spot ...pros are so damn arrogant... we all don't get to choose our fish time..it was his spot you had no business there..... your paycheck means nothing to him or me grow up pissy doesn't look good on you
It’s public water buddy if you can handle fishing by others go to your own private water problem solved
@@heyzeus6149 It's called common courtesy. Being in a tournament or being a "pro" doesn't put you above that.
@@NoFro-TL the guy was plenty far away I would understand if he went and literally fished on top of him but don’t exaggerate the situation it’s not that big of a deal
If I am being honest, seems like you rolled up on him, not a good look for pro anglers and that comes from a tournament angler myself.
Public water Mr. sensitive
@heyzeus6149 I agree it's public water, Chris came off a bit entitled to that point because he was in a tournament, they both had every right to fish, but the local wad there first so Chris shouldn't act surprised if he hears a little chirping
Chris, if I was on a BASS review board and saw your original video I'm going to uphold the charge you were in the wrong here.
These guys always tall about rules and grey areas. There should be a penalty for @$$hat behavior like this.
This is unbelievable.... I dont care about the spots, but holy shit the entitlement you spoke with towards those anglers. This is really really disheartening to see from Profesionals of any career choice.
Dude I’ve watched it twice and it gets worse.
I don't see where a tournament participant has priority over a recreational fisherman.
They don't.
They don't, this guy is a douchebag, the entitlement is real with him, the fact he chose to do this reaction video says everything about him. Those guys are sitting back watching him get roasted online, I feel for them. This is how boat launch fights happen.
Man, this is really bad. Very arrogant. Your tone was way more hostile than that guy the whole time. Having a hard time understanding the point of you posting this video other than proving what all the comments are saying.
Bro I’m so disappointed he handled it like that.
@@thickstickity955
For real. Even worse there’s people who think he did nothing wrong. The world is full of entitled people.
Right off the bat you said you can't control what the locals do, yet you tried to control what the locals do.
To be honest this pisses me off. You were in the wrong and made worse. You shouldn't be dirtbagging the guy that beat you there. Without guys like that you dont have anything to market to.
If it takes fan backlash to make you "almost" apologize about this situation, maybe not as good a guy as you seem. "I thought i was right? Remember that guy is us, your viewers and followers that you made it seem like your more important than. Your not. Keep the diva inside and remember how much money you bring in because of all the "guy in the champion" people out here. Content backfire.
Gotta be more professional. You can not threaten people on the water!
Wow! One of the more classless acts I have seen or heard on the water…. Talk about the false sense of entitlement on your part. The remarks you made to this other fisherman were about the most childish pouting from a so called “professional” I’ve heard in a long time. Then what is sad is you have the opportunity & platform to own it and say “my bad” and you choose to try and get your supporters on board with you. Asking if this fisherman was fishing a tournament was like the young person getting caught in an act of wrong and saying “do you know who my dad is?”…. Truly sad moment!
Your sensitive
Never thought i'd see entitlement like this from Zaldain. Hanging around Turkla too long.
@@NoFro-TL local guy started it it could have been a completely different situation. If it were me I wouldn’t care and instead take pics and be glad I picked a spot a pro would pick. The local is the entitled one with an ego along with you and everyone else here that can’t handle fishing public water, if you want privacy then fish your private pond end of story
@@heyzeus6149 Not sure how you came to that conclusion. The guy was already fishing that spot. Chris zoomed up on him and started casting at that same spot. Then Chris tried to act like him being a pro and in a tourney outweighed anything the guy said. Nasty entitlement.
@@NoFro-TL
The local isn't fish for 100 grand
Yeah I’m a fan of yours Chris but I would have been PISSED If I was the other guy. You cut him off big time
I’ve been following you and pull for your success for some time now.
My opinion- You were Solely in the wrong by simply not asking if you were ok pulling in. (That conversation should happen before you even get out from behind the wheel and especially before you make a cast.
I seriously doubt you would have pulled in that close (within conversation distance) to one of your competitors and not disgusted it.
He made a comment immediately and you blew it off instead of asking if he would mind working the area with him.
As you know - When you wear a patch, logo or branding you must be non confrontational and understanding of other anglers more than you may want.
I think by now you realize you were wrong.
If you haven’t already- the best thing you can do is try to find out who that was and apologize to him.
This second video is making you look even worse by trying to point any blame on the other angler when you know you would do it differently given the opportunity.
Yeah they were there first. You rolled up after they were there. And you got real close to them. Just because there’s a tournament going on, doesn’t mean I have to leave the lake. You’re fishing for a living and you chose that profession. You have to deal with any of the obstacles that get in your way including locals. That doesn’t mean you can disrespect them and threaten them. If you rolled up on a spot I’m fishing like you did, full speed, I’d have gotten pissed off at you too. We don’t need to deal with arrogant aholes like you were acting towards those guys. You threatened them and said you’re going to their workplace? No you weren’t BOTH wrong. YOU were wrong. I think you’d have been better off not ever posting this video. I’ve always liked your content, but this one made me lose a little respect for you.
Nope, you should never pull up on anyone. Ido not care if he is just fishing for catfish, it’s his spot until he leaves. You should have apologized and moved on. You bringing up it’s a pro spot because you are better than him. Allow me to tell you this, if that was your only spot that you thought you could catch a fish, you should have just went back to the ramp and loaded up the boat….you were unprepared to fish.
Man this makes it even worse lol.
I’m late to the party here… just watched it and this makes the whole thing so much worse. Should have just taken the high road and apologized even if he didn’t mean it like I do with my wife lol always been a fan of Chris but he couldn’t have handled this more poorly
I would’ve cussed you out too. You’re 100% in the wrong, just because you’re in your “workplace” doesn’t mean it’s any less valuable of an area to him or anyone else. To certain people, fishing is priceless.
I think this video actually makes you look worse. You were in the wrong, he’s was in the right. End of story
His wife does terrible for him.
@@Carolinabiggins yep
Sounds like something a communist would say, bet you are just the same, mouthy far away but real freaking quiet when we would he face to face.
@@OptimalFearsNobodies afraid of you. What are you 14/15??
respectfully, You were wrong 100 %, tournaments do not give you permission to be disrespectful, he was already there, just be a good guy apologize and life moves on
What a terrible look for tournament bass fishing, you couldn't have handled this situation worse.
When you first pulled up you should have asked did he mind sharing the spot. If he said yes all is good. If he said no then pick up and leave seeing he was there first. Swearing at the guy shows your immaturity. Some kid that idols you and your big swimbaits just saw how you act and its now OK for him to act the same way. Poor judgement of character and representation of your sponsors. Your second video is full of excuses. It should have been an apology saying you lost it. Lost alot of respect for you after these two videos. You are blessed to get to fish for a living. Maybe this guy works 50 hrs a week to get to fish a little.
Let me start by saying I generally appreciate your content but....Having been in that guy's place where I may have drove 45 minutes to get to my bank fishing spot or paddled in my kayak a mile only to have someone pull up casting distance away from me in a bass boat that could be fishing anywhere on the lake... The guy that pulls up doesn't have the common courtesy to just figure it's taken... It's like deer hunting if someone's in your spot on public land you go to another spot you don't stand next to him waiting for the deer. I noticed you use phrases like "I'm doing my job" and all " I wanted was to fish the point"... Maybe if you spent your 50-hour work weeks working in a factory or an office or doing roofing you'd understand how important that day was to that gentleman. I'm sorry but I do think you were wrong in this you just left courtesy out of the equation... In the eyes of people who are probably your audience you come across as entitled.
You have still yet to take responsibility and apologize for your actions. Instead if spending so much time running down MLF and Boyd Duckett, why don’t you look in the mirror and start working on making yourself a better person before running down others?
Wow✨️ Best said comment ✅️
This is the kind of crap that gives bass tournaments a bad name. Can even lead to guys stuff getting trashed in parking lots. You need to issue a full on straight up apology. Maybe even find the guy and send him a bunch of baits.
Ok I think I just figured out who the local angler was. LOL.
@@richardmccarty7270I never go off on other anglers because your truck and trailer are a viable target to someone crazy enough to seek retribution. Don’t act like it’s outside the realm of possibility.
Yeah man you were 100% in the wrong. End of story. Just because you chose to be a professional fisherman doesn’t mean that you can ruin public waters for a local guy that was already there. You made a mistake, didn’t apologize, now you gotta take your lumps.
Imagine a truck driver yelling at the other drivers on the road because he is there to make a living and they’re just driving….😂
Yikes telling your customer ( these are the people the work 5 days a week to buy 13 fishing your swimbait etc )you’re fishing is more important than there’s, especially when he was there first is a tuff look. You might be getting more popular on UA-cam with the clickbait stuff but you’re getting less popular with anglers. It’s always drama with the Zaldains. Use to love your fishing content.
That's absolutely true. His wife has basically ruined his image
Spot on remarks from both of you. So true what an arrogant a$$. Him and his annoying wife
Spot on. Well said.
The guy was already there fishing he should've went somewhere else I didn't think the other guy was wrong at all if someone is fishing in a spot I want to fish I'll come back when they are gone plain and simple
Sixth Sense has Chinese trolls working for them, because China secretly owns Sixth Sense. It ain't cheap except in China. Like the fake reviews, majority of Ben Miliken's subscribers are fake
If the shoe was on the other foot. Would that situation bother you?
Good question!
Wow if you pulled up on me like did … I would have thought you were a pirate! Might have been more than words! Truly unsat on your part! Sad day for you I thought you were truly top notch until I seen your vid…. Yep three sides to every story and you still showed your tail! Then threatened him…… man as a retired marine I would have told you to bring your A game when you do! Unsubscribed! See ya and good luck!
As soon as you brought up his workplace, you were instantly in the wrong. Very unprofessional and a slight on BASS, and they (BASS) should definitely investigate and assess punishment in either fine, disqualification or other appropriate actions if deemed so by their decision. This video should have been an apology to your fans and followers and not a childish response "he started it". Your fans, myself included, expect more from you.
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The right way to handle it would have been not to pull up between him and the point first of all and not just throw your hand up and put the trolling motor down and start casting like the guys not even there it makes you look like a prick . You should have stopped out behind the guy and explained what you had going on and what was at stake and excepted what the man had to say. Probably would got further that way.
Yeah… Sorry dude, you’re 100% in the wrong.
1. Communicate respectfully if you’re gonna roll up within talking distance of someone, and clearly explain your intent and how you won’t interfere with what they’re doing, and then ask if it’s ok with them. Humble politeness goes a long way.
2. Leave that trash pro angler speech at home. If the pro organizations aren’t renting out the lakes and restricting public access/fishing on tourney day, you have no more privilege than anyone else. It’s not on the rest of us to sympathize with your career choices.
You're supposed to be a professional. You wear the badge .Own it! You were wrong and quit making excuses. Had you asked politely, this BS probably would never had happened.
100% CORRECT...
I don't think you care about anyone's thoughts on this situation as long as you're getting comments thumbs up and subscribers that's all you folks worry about now. It's a shame what this profession has become. So there you go you have my comment and view. Hope you're happy now.
If you think I’m posting this for clicks you don’t know me. I wanted the full video out there and to move on. It’s was purely to be transparent
@@ZaldaingerousGoogan army boy got you F' ed up .
Or is it taint? 🤔
What does him smoking a cigarette have do do with anything. You were totally in the wrong and, honestly, sound like a prima donna. Does the guy work in a public place ??? If so, feel free to go to his work. What kind of comparison is that? Read the room Chris. You’re better off just taking the full blame and move on.
That was a sad attempt to try and belittle the other guy. Really thought Chris was a better person than that.
… or having a Champion. He said so many things to belittle the guy. “It Mother’s Day” like he shouldn’t be there?? Man pretty cringy stuff. I was a big fan not sure how big of a fan I am now.
The cigarette comment did it for me. Total douchebag and we're all finally seeing it
This was so disappointing to watch Chris. I wonder if the other guy in that boat was a wounded Vet I noticed he had a prosthetic leg. You being a pro I would expect way more out of you. Again really disapointing.
I work hard, and I go fishing when I can. I don't give a flying fudge if you are tournament fishing first come first served. My time on the water is extremely valuable to me, and unless you're gonna share those tournament winnings, then move the fudge on!
You must like fudge.
What winnings? 😂
My issue is if the guy was Greg Hackney or a guy like Cory Johnston you would never have stopped there without asking ! So probably your best bet in the future would be to ask or don’t pull up on another boat . Basically handle that guy like you would a tournament angler . I will say it is great of you to post this video and take your lumps like a man. No matter how old you are we can always learn from our mistakes or lack of judgment at times . It happens to all of us . Good luck the rest of your year ! Stay safe out there .
How is it great of him to post this video? He’s not sorry and thinks he’s in the right here. He posted it to defend himself not to apologize and take his lumps. He never once admitted any wrongdoing on his part
He asked people to comment, He knew there would be allot of negative feedback. He asked for opinions . He didn’t have to do that . Read some of his reply’s to comentors !
1000% correct! Which makes it even more difficult to watch. He treated those guys like 💩 when all he had to do was ask politely.
If that was another Elite fishing that point would you have done the same? I don’t think so…
If I’m an elite or even in a “club derb” as you called it, and I want that point bad enough, I would ease up to the angler and explain what I had on the line and ask if he or she minded if we shared the point. If he said no, I’m gone. For me to even ask, I would have to think it was a special spot or otherwise I would roll out….the reason the workplace analogy wasn’t suited is because you choose to play that game and do so with every variable involved and that includes dealing with the locals and whatever his job is would be completely different and you would be arrested for harassment for interfering with his job. Now , you didn’t break any laws or rules by asserting yourself on the spot with him. If the competition and cutthroat ways have reached the point that this type of behavior is commonplace place, well then I guess you do you. I’d like to believe that the majority of pros wouldn’t shit on each other or a local like this without asking permission to share the spot. You asked, and this is how I see it.
I think Chris confused Elite Series with Elitist?
First person there has the right to fish it unencumbered, if he was having to alter his casts or positioning in any way then you were in the wrong. This is no different than the KVD/Ike situation, Ike imposed and wasn't welcome in the area so he left. Just because this kid was a weekend angler doesn't mean he had to give you the "right of way" and bail on the spot because the wrapped boat showed up.
Chris's was in the wrong just shows you the snake he really is.. he needs to be fired and go get a real job.. they act like fishing is hard 😂 go swing a hammer 🔨 for 12 hours a day for 9$ a hour..
You’re dead wrong. Your boater etiquette is horrible and as a professional , you should’ve known and done better. Had it been that boater pulling up on you, it would’ve been all over BASS bad mouthing him as a local interfering for his actions. Do better ZALDAIN!
Totally unprofessional man. Threatening him is totally out of line. Right or wrong you were at work as you say. Where I work your behavior would have gotten you terminated. Just sayin.
Not sure you cleared up anything other than you were wrong and that you felt in titled. Don’t be sorry just be better.
Yeah you were definitely in the wrong my man. Looks like you cut him off. Be respectful and just ask the guy next time. I would have probably climbed in your boat lol
man Chris...you aren't helping your case here. I don't think you were wrong for pulling in but it didn't seem like you tried to clarify what your intent was, had that happened I bet a lot of this wouldn't have happened. You coming out saying that you're going to go to his workplace is just plain stupid on your part because YOU rolled up on him, not the other way around. He didn't come in to disturb you at work because he was already sitting there. I understand that his chirping got under your skin and with as much time as touring anglers spend on the water things like this can happen but you gotta keep your cool out there. But what gets me the most is that you made the active choice to use your social media platform to put him on blast not once but twice! Classless.
lol it’s a free country , just like you watching his content , you’re free to any other content. Classless or not I’m sure he thanks you for the view as well as this comment !
I don’t see Chris as being in the wrong here. I do believe this is the exact interaction that guy was hoping to get, and it’s unfortunate that he got it. He was sitting there with the hopes of trolling someone.
@@Fishing_with_FincherDo what? lmao That’s a lot of assumptions with no evidence to back it up, I’m actually dumbfounded on how you came to that conclusion. How do you figure he was “looking for a confrontation?”
Man there is too much negativity in BASS fishing. And it seems like this channel just adds to that. Which really sucks man, cause I love alot of your content. Maybe I will re-subscribe down the line.
That’s bass fishing in 2024. I’ve almost entirely quit bass fishing because of the people in it. I’d rather by alone in a stream catching smallies or trout than on a lake anymore with a bunch of dudes who egos are inflated bc of daddy’s wallet
I don’t think you were messing up his spot, but talking about the workplace was just stupid. He was there first, and like it or not, he wasn’t messing up your workplace. You were close to messing up his recreation. Understand that “normal fishermen” probably assume you guys all think you’re better and entitled to the whole lake because you’re pros. When this is your response, right or not, you’re reinforcing that idea and giving all pros a bad rep.
Man at some point you gotta take it like you would if you rolled up and G was fishing a spot. Hit it later in your rotation. This could have been a completely inconsequential situation. As soon as he started chirping I would have said “my bad dude, I’m gone. Didn’t mean to bother you” and found myself somewhere else to settle in. Your Elite status should grant you some courtesy but it doesn’t entitle you to whatever place you want to set your boat on. Hopefully you learn from this, because I don’t think you’re a shitty dude. You’re competitive and a lot is on the line and sometimes it’s hard to check our feelings in the moment.
Without regular guys like him who buy your sponsors products you wouldn't have a job Chris. Your inflated ego seems like your out of touch with reality. Your sponsors should take a good hard look at how your comments and actions are going to impact their sales. I'm a tournament angler that will choose to spend my hard earned money with companies that value sportsmanship and professional anglers.
I guess if accusing Trey of cheating doesn't work blame the locals
I was waiting for the apology to your fans but it never came. Chris, you need to realize that you’re held to a higher standard. You represent a large industry. To all of us, we can all learn from this experience. Let’s respect each other on and off the water.
Chris was actually nice about it lol. The guy better be glad it wasn't one of the others that has hot tempers. Ike would have gave him a new one for example 😂. If the guy would have shut up and not kept poking at Chris I don't think they'd been a issue. Someone like Ike or a few others would have blasted him after the first comment 😂.
What if what you found was a community hole? I don’t think he was out there to intentionally get in your way. The two other boats may have been his buddy but And idk about camera angles but you pulled up close, right in front of him. Looks like 2 casts away. Dude, if I was him I would prob say something. I’m not perfect t by any means but I would’ve gone way around and pulled up offshore of him or however you wouldn’t jack him up, and just communicate that what your fishing is in (specific area) and if you mind if you squeezed in.
Showing mutual respect on the water goes a long way, everyone is always jumpy or Adamate to accuse someone of hole jumping as someone pulls up. But if that other person can clearly communicate what his intentions are and sound reasonable I’ll make it work. I usually won’t pull up close to people bc I just don’t like to do that. If I’m hell bent to getting to a certain group of fish I’ll stop and communicate first.
I typically don’t find myself in a body of water during a tournament going on that I’m not a part of, but if I do, I’m sitting down and leaving if a tournament guy rolls up, at the least, move along.
If respect is what you’re after, why aren’t you upset with the other angler for immediately starting to talk shit the moment he pulls up? The fact of the matter is, that guy was hoping for this very interaction. He was sitting on that point with the sole intention of trolling someone. In this day and age, it’s rare to get to fish a point all by yourself…we have all had people roll up on us while fishing, how many times have you immediately started talking shit to anyone that pull up?
You just missed an opportunity to apologize. It sincerely greaves me to see you play this this way... You are an accomplished pro, hes a guy with a day off work. Can you not see how you come off in this?
Exactly he is a PRO with money on the line big money , and you weekend guys need to show a lil respect to him , and stop being jealous cause your not a PRO
@@SpookyRedzso because he has money on the line it gives him the right to completely cut him off? No chance doesn’t matter what you’re fishing. Tournament or not, Chris couldn’t be more in the wrong here.
@@treyhudson4925 I disagree , Chris was nowhere near that guy , he shut down way away from him and was on his trolling motor , that man does not own the water , if Chris pulled up on him too close I would say Chris is in the wrong but Chris did not and was not even near close
@@treyhudson4925 Chris did not cut anyone off y’all are wrong again
@@SpookyRedzThe only comment in Chris’s defense.
Did we just find Trait’s burner account?
I've been on the tournament side and on the recreational side when there was tournaments going on. If I pull up to a spot and someone is fishing, I move on. You should've seen him and moved on to your next spot without even stopping. Or maybe pull near him and explain you are in a tournament and ask him if you can work that area for a bit. A little respect goes a long way.
With all due respect. What does being in a tournament have to do with encroaching on that guys area? He was there first.
@@PistolPete3322 The fact that he's in a tournament could mean he's not local. He only has a handful of spots that he plans on fishing that day. Yes the local was there first but had Chris been courteous to begin with, the local may not have had a problem sharing the area. They may have even set rules for each other. I'll fish this side of the point and you fish the other. Just have to show some respect.
@@rc8239 being in a tournament means nothing to the situation in my humble opinion. But I agree, move on or ask politely.
1000% correct
If he was there first, it was his spot!
It's not the worst thing in the world, but I would expect an ear full for rolling up like that. Old school Elites would be discussing this with you in the parking lot.
Like who? I can guarantee you that old school elites pulled up on weekend anglers every tournament. I’ve heard the stories, most people who know there is an elite series tournament or even a lower level major tournament will not fish or they well give the spot up for the professionals. I’ve had a boat pull up on me and I trolled away and wished them luck. I am not going to be the ass that blocks someone from making money while I’m fun fishing.
Chris this is not cool. Your a pro act like one . Ive been a fan of yours for awhile and im a tournament fisherman but you have to share the water. Comming to the guys work is bull shit
I would tone down the drama and doubling down on situations like this for views and clicks. Might be helping your view time but in the end you are giving yourself a bad look within the industry. That guy you were cussing at is a customer watching bass live and buying rods and baits you may endorse.
Always respected you Chris but after watching this I have to say you are wrong. Like many have said you should of talked to the individual and ask if you could share the point. You had no idea if he planned on moving into the point and fished or not and unfortunately you will never know. I have had people come into an area I was fishing hot like you did before and there was a conversation had. It is unprofessional and uncalled for. If I would have been him, I would have been mad also and I am sure you wouldn't be happy if it happened to you. I will say that if Trey McKinney or Wheeler would of done this I would be willing to bet there would have been 3 Bilge podcasts and 3 weeks of twitter and Facebook posts from your brand saying how unprofessional and disrespectful they were. I think you stepped deep in the "Grey Area" here and maybe BASS needs to take a deep look at this. You know because it's about following the rules in the rule book right?
That isn’t going to look good for you bro. I hate to say it but you pulled up on a point with a guy on it… that’s a no no right off the bat. Then you start acting like your BASS event is more important than his day. Cmon man. That’s part of our sport you know that. It sucks yeah, but it’s part of it. We share the water with locals and it sucks on tournament days but it is what it is. But you were totally in the wrong here man.
You are 100% correct..
He was far enough away that it shouldn’t have mattered. People pull up and fish spots within eyesight of each other all the time. This guy was looking for this very interaction. Trolls.
Chris I’m disappointed in your actions you are better than this! Your a professional act accordingly. Hope BASS doesn’t discipline you for your actions you lost it!
Agreed he was there first, you should have gone to your next spot.
Somebody’s sensitive
First off I'm a fan of yours and respect what you do. But it's as simple as putting the shoe on the other foot. If someone came in on you the same way, how would you have reacted? I've witnessed fishing etiquette disappear over the years and it's a shame. As an Elite angler you have been blessed with both the burden and responsibility to set an example for the rest of us. To me that includes sportsmanship, boating safety, and fishing etiquette.
Man, this is pathetic behaviour by Zaldain. It's not your lake dude. Did you rent it out? Nobody cares that you are "working." If I decide to have a professional scavenger hunt in a public park it doesn't give me any more right to that park than anyone else enjoying it. The sooner professional fishing dies out the better. It adds nothing to the sport.
BASS should have fined you. And if this was anyone else you would have had a field day about how unprofessional it was.
it was violation of sportsmanship rule
@@mdbassin6267 you’re right. Official rules of competition rule 6. Sportsmanship and rule 7. Anglers code of conduct
It actually should be a DQ and I'd love to see it. Iaconelli got a DQ in the Classic for cursing at a dog. What does cursing at a person get you?
@@zdunham777you’re right . And they decided to have a whole podcast about rookies playing in “the gray area” yet here is a seasoned pro making a complete ass of himself and the sport then taking to social media trying to justify it. I wonder if G-man and dollar Bill are going to have a statement to make about this. I doubt it.
@ericwm1
You're talking a lot for a guy who's opinion doesn't matter 😂
And Chris i love you but no way I hell that was 120 yards 😂 35 to 40 max
My wife said the same thing. It felt bigger than it looks on camera
@@Zaldaingerous lol but I do understand in the heat of the moment everything seems off . I'm sorry that happend to you hopefully the next time the local is more reasonable
@@WadeDemoss why would he back off. It was his one day off. There is a reason tournaments are losing their luster and less people care daily especially on the higher levels
@@Zaldaingerousgood camera man will give you 2 inches. 😂
@@WadeDemoss the local might have been reasonable if Chris hadn't Big Timed it?
Chris: "Are you fishing a tournament"
Local: "No".
Chris: Drops the trolling motor and throws in local's water....
1. Bruh imo you should have never stopped. 2 you should have cut the big motor way sooner. 3 you should have gone away from him. 4 his day was screwed up due to your actions. No hate from me just mishandled.
Dude, all you should be doing is apologizing to him, your fans, and fishing fans. Nothing in this video puts you in a good light. That dude might have spent money with your sponsors, but I bet he won't now. You aren't entitled to shit!!! Especially when he was there first!!!
Man, I really like you and I buy your products. I think your podcast is really cool. I have a lot of respect for you, but after watching this video, I have lost a little bit of respect for you. You were totally in the wrong for pulling up on this guy fishing this point, you actually cut him off if it would’ve been me, I promise you it would’ve been very confrontational on the water. There’s a lot of drama in the Bass world right now don’t get yourself a bad rap. You’re a great guy and we still want to support You. just don’t ever do any stupid shit like this again.
I'm sure both could have handled it better but the fact you think you are doing your job doesnt cut it. You have no special rights or privileges because you are in a tournament.
Chris yes you should of left but I think you need a new video where you apologize for what happwned and admit you were wrong..... that may have been his honey hole for years
Just man up your better than this
Too late for a third video. It’ll just come across as fake now. He ruined it with the second video
Hahahah I would have told u to meet me on the shore
Public lake dude ! You supposed 2 be a big boy go find another spot on the Public lake. My work place is on private or commercial job sites so you would be straight up boo boo faced doing something stupid like that.
Well you’re sensitive lol
“hey I don’t like you let’s go fight!”
😂
Nope…you’re in the wrong. Should have just apologized and moved on.
Absolutely Wrong & I don’t care to hear anymore about how you represent the Patch and then do this to another fisherman.
Todd, it’s ok man. I don’t think people are going to hell over fishing near selfish locals on tourny day. Maybe pick a different lake that weekend? Or watch from the couch. Half of yall commenting wouldn’t catch em anyway
Yur a joke yur podcast is a joke .....just go away
Boo hoo you sound like a female
You sound like a female
@@TheFishinAddict
It don’t make a damn if they would catch them or not…the fact that he was there first and Chris pulls in as if he owns the damn lake and proceeded to talk shit and make EMPTY threats about the guys workplace. Plenty of SC boys would have stepped off in his little entitled ass and made sure he carried that lesson on to the next donation he fished as a so claim elite angler….zaldian is a far cry from anything that resembles elite
If that would have been other tournament anglers you would have never stopped. Shows you respect fellow competitors more than the locals or other anglers. Stop making excuses. You were wrong. Period
1000% correct
not worth it.....move on. Professional Angler means a higher level of behavior in situations like this.
I'm surprised BASS didn't give you a disqualification!
Why would they DQ him for having words with someone on the water? What laws/rules were broken to be DQ?
@@shanefloyd2317 There's rules on sportsmanship during a tournament. Chris berated, harrased and if the individual felt threatened; assaulted him. He should absolutely be DQ'd.
It's in the rules of bass
@@mattbarnes1347that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Chris pulls up two cast lengths away and the moment he puts his trolling motor in the water that guy starts berating him. It’s worrisome that there are so many that believe the other guy was in the right when the only thing the other guy wanted was this very interaction. He was hoping to troll someone that morning and was successful in doing so.
@@Fishing_with_Fincher how do you know this? Do you think the guy just followed Chris during the week just to cause interaction between them? The dude was there to begin with, Chris should have just asked if he could share the spot! You seem to assume alot!
The video makes it look like you pulled right in front of him. Regardless of the tournament you probably should have asked if it was alright to pull in there.
I’m a fan of yours…but you pulled up on him.
Blah blah blah you were wrong man up and quit being a cry baby, outcome would have been a lot different if it was me
I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE RUDE PERSON. HE WAS ON THE POINT FIRST! BUT IVE HEARD YOU IN PREVIOIS VIDEOS BAD MOUTH LOCALS JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE ON THE WATER THE SAME DAY YOU GUYS WERE. YOU PROS AREN'T AS SPECIAL AS YOU THINK DUDE! EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO FISH ON ANY SPOT ON ANY GIVEN DAY! IF YOU WOULD HAVE ROLLED UP ON ME LIKE THAT, YOU DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE GOT MORE THAN A PIECE OF MY MIND! YOU SIR NEED SOME HUMBLE PIE!
@@badmoonryzin7251 You're kidding me! 😆
Judging by your profile pic, I doubt many people are rolling up on you :)
@jasonfreeman4753 That has nothing to do with it jason! I was taught respect and manners and when I'm on the lake I show other anglers the same respect I would want them to show me. You have no idea how many times I've pulled up on one of my spots and had a boat sitting on it in a tournament. I didn't just barge in on the guys like I owned the place and this is exactly what this Chris Zaldain does. He thinks everyone is beneath him and when he's on the lake everyone should stay home! I really can't stand his attitude!!!!!!
I guess I don't understand the logic of your fishing a tournament so you get the spot? At the end of the day you tournament guys are glorified salesmen. That dude said it himself that he got 1 day off that week so why not just let that guy enjoy his one day off. NOW i will say if it was me i probably wouldnt care if you rolled up that close to me and fished.
Yes the water is public. But dam man your supposed to be above chit like this!!!
I used to watch bass back when they had old school guys like the Martin’s, Ken Cooks,Zell Rowland,Hank Parker’s. No fun to watch anymore.