Why didn't Ferrari pit Charles Leclerc at Silverstone?
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- Ferrari made a very strange strategy call during the British GP to not pit Leclerc and cost him an almost certain victory... why did they do it?
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Leclerc isn't fighting Max for the world championship. He's fighting Ferrari.
Ferrari is supreme at snatching defeat from the jaws of certain victory 😂
W comment
lmao
@SanjayBennett to be fair it's not tsunoda's fault, Max should have and could have avoided the debris but he thought it wasn't gonna affect his car and he ran over it he even mentioned that he saw the debris but it was too late, it's a mixture of bad luck and his own fault
And if Merc keep the pace they have now on to other races Ferrari has no chance this season
Okay, let's review this dream scenario for Ferrari:
1. Max Verstappen out of contention due to car damage
2. Sergio Perez dropped all the way down to last due to damage
3. Russell out with an unfortunate DNF
4. Free cheap pit stop
5. LeClerc in the faster car in a 1,2 lead for Ferrari
Somehow... given all these magical gifts from the car gods, Ferrari STILL manages to bungle it for LeClerc. They hate you Charles. They hate themselves. They hate winning. They certainly hate good strategy. They hate advantages. Ferrari probably hates puppies too.
Oh the puppies....
That sums it up nicely.
NOT THE PUPPIES
That's not gonna be good for Roscoe-
And Ferrari seem to love to publicly embarrass themselves. Some of those conversations on their team radios were so cringe. The only thing more humiliating would have been if in the end Perez had won from last place. Also, if it hadn't been for Max' car damage, he would have easily won this race for sure.
2019 Charles: I am stupid
2022 Ferrari: WE are stupid 🤦🏻♂️😂
Nah Ferrari's always been like that
Since alonso
the ultimate moment of hashtag WeRaceAsOne.
Ferrari established communism it seems
well, they *are* red
Here's why:
Ferrari had incompetent strategists during Alonso, Massa, Vettel and, guess what! it has incompetent strategists today!
even before Schumacher they were struggling hard lmao
I think because current ferrari race strategist is a spaniard?
I however happen to believe it has nothing to do with competency rather it's about internal politics. This is what has kept them underachieving seasons in and seasons out.
They have to create a calculator software for 20 cars which could preview as soon as first and second lap how fast and how far that pilot could get ahead with that pace, so they could heavily anticipate what will happen every time. Nowdays they are using the passive strategy which involves them only after the others. Shame shame she.
Carlos Sainz, while being preoccupied with driving and racing other elite drivers on race day, is a better strategist than Ferrari's dedicated strategists, who are sitting comfortably in the pitbox with all the data at their fingers...
You fools! You have ONE job to do 😂
In 2 of the last few races, Sainz has disagreed with his race strategists and he ended up being right in overruling the team's strategy.. that says a lot.
Charles is a fantastic driver that is on average a few tenths up on Carlos in terms of raw speed, but he needs to be more assertive.
Charles has an amazing season! If he’s able to beat his rival Ferrari he’ll definitely has a chance to be champion!
Reversal I know you’re a Dutchman used to watch your Pokémon Go videos - how do you & your country see Max and other F1 drivers besides Lewis?
But Ferrari is unbeatable...
Yep!
@@adamn7125 only Ferrari can beat Ferrari
Sainz is a joke, Ferrari is a joke. Binotto OUT!
Not a Ferrari Fan. But watching Ferrari strategist leaving Charles left on the hards was just a fantastic display of why Ferrari hasn't won a championship for decades.
It was another blatantly stupid decision. Whoever is in charge of strategy for Charles this season needs to be fired.
@@SnazzySki98 Kimis was bc of mclaren having a inside battle
Why did they not said to Sainz to slow down and hold Hamilton before the pit so that they will not loose on double stacking?!? Can Hamilton overtake Sainz under SC ?
You act like Charles can drive into the pit himself. He can tell them I’m boxing
Binoto idiot! Sainz selfish guy beaten by Hulkenberg...Way under Leclerc's level.
Everyone is a Ferrari fan
I am blown away how Clerc was faster than anyone but Max before his floor damage with a damaged front wing... man is next level!
Not only that, but the move on HAM on the outside with old hards against fresh softs was absolutely incredible!
Of course he only delayed it, but this was world class racing.
There wasnt that significant drop of performance, he was losing about 0.07s per lap. Even after charles was let through sainz on the opening stint, hamilton was over a tenth of a lap faster than leclerc meaning the merc had better race pace than ferrari. Hamilton also was faster than perez as obvious, again, from the first stint. Only max was faster than hamilton on pure race pace.
@@FLEX89 the performance differential between hards and softs wasnt that big after a few laps. At the very start, yes the new softs had huge advantage over used hards as we saw sainz easily pass leclerc. But after they are warmed up in a lap or 2, the difference wasnt that big. Look how even perez, with the fastest car struggled to pass leclerc even. Regarding hamilton, by that time hamilton had used up quite a bit of soft tyres battling perez and leclerc before and he was also quite cautious againts leclerc. Though full marks to leclerc for that brave move.
@@peeturpain9379 what is your basis that he only lost .07s per lap. He got the damage on the first lap. It cost him 2 tenths at the minimum but was likely closer to 3.5/4 tenths
@@FLEX89 That whole battle at the end was world class and some of the most exciting racing I’ve ever seen, give all the drivers credit. Leclerc, Perez, Hamilton, Alonso attempting to pick up the scraps. But yeah Charles in particular really shone during that, it’s a shame he had to settle for 4th
The REAL question is why do we all seem more capable of coming up with a better strategy for LeClerc than the Ferrari team? I mean, there is a SC, there is no excuse not to stop your cars. Even if you have to double stack. We all knew with Hards he was not holding on to the lead. Why did they not think of that?
You're not more capable but anyone can be an armchair expert.
@@bobthetroll I don't see where the OP is claiming to be "more capable" and the supposed ease of being an "armchair expert" is irrelevant to this discussion.
@@bobthetroll well they cant do worse than the actual Ferrari strategists
@@BiggieTrismegistus although I agree that the double stop would've been better, it's claimed that anyone can do better then Ferrari, which includes the commenter and as they were the one commenting it suggests that they were more capable
Pitting both cars means Sainz would loose 5 sec just waiting and would have come behind Norris. Good thinking Armchair Expert!
I lost it when they told Sainz to create a space for Charles at the restart and he told them to not interfere. Like wtf is that strategy you should have pit Charles
If Sainz had followed Ferrari's orders, they would have lost the race. One of the dumbest team orders I've heard.
@@franciscofont2194 Ferrari strategists are trying so hard to lose
With the restart They ware trying to please Charles 10 car Lents ahead a chance hoping it would a give he a chance and try to Appease him for the earlier mistake .. I don't see him staying there unless his contract is long .. I think he should replace the Cry baby Hamilton..in Mercedes next season.
@@alcoyne3333333333333 Yes, I feel really bad for Charles... Such a good driver getting screwed by terrible team strategy
fair play to Sainz tho that's twice he's not followed team orders and got a good result out of it. he's figured out the strategists arent the best😂
The amount of times I heard this from matt made me realise this video was bound to happen 😂
You should watch Peter Windsor's video LOL 😂He kept going on and on about it (and rightly so).
The fight Charles gave Hamilton and Perez despite having the much weaker tyres and a damaged front wing was incredible. They wouldn’t have stand a chance with equal conditions. But this poor guy constantly has to battle not only the best drivers in the world, but the incompetence of his own team as well. It’s mind-bogglingly frustrating.
There were 5 seconds between Leclerc and Sainz, and under SC delta that was probably 10 seconds, they could easily both pit, and if Lewis stays out then they could get him easily on the restart in a faster car with better tires.. Perez was 20+ seconds behind so P2-P3 was worst case scenario but you'd have both cars on new tires able to fight for the P1-P2,.
On top of that you can argue that Perez should be priority and not Lewis, they now gave away points to Perez and allowed Max to only lose like 6 to Leclerc for the sake of covering Hamilton who isn't fighting for the title and who was in a slower car they could easily beat on track.
But the decision also covers Perez right? If Perez is the fastest car on softs, which he was, then getting stuck behind Hamilton invites Checo to overtake both Ferraris. It's a better chance at a 1-2 if they pit Charles, but it's a worse chance of winning the race at all.
1-4 with Perez in 2nd is better for their champiomship than 2-3 with Perez winning the race. Harsh on Charles but Ferrari made the call to ensure the win one way or another.
@@toggerz7487 didn’t that happened anyway?? Atleast have fresh softs for the fight
@@toggerz7487 why was pitting Leclerc a worse chance to win the race?
@@toggerz7487 I mean how would have the Ferraris stuck behind the Merc? Mercedes isn't fast practically than the Ferraris and couple that with old hard tires.... Lewis would have been a sitting duck for the 2 Ferraris.
Yes - of course there would have been a challenge from PER at restart - but then they all would had same tires and now it would have been solely on the driver's talent to fight on track for the positions - that would have been a fair and square racing at least... and the best driver would have taken the victory... compared to what we saw with LEC on old tires fighting with SAI, PER & LH on fresh softs... that's just BS
Had they pit LEC and SAI together - I still feel the best result would have been 1-2 and worst would have been 1-3.
But certainly not a 1-4 (and that too LEC at 4th)
You see that's a heavy loss Ferrari suffered here in the WDC... though they retrieved few more points in WCC.
But to be honest - RBRs are far too up the road now in the WCC fight
When the safetycar was out. Sainz could back up to get some room between him and Leclerc with let's say 6 seconds between them to allow a slow stop incase something went wrong with leclerc. Then you do a double stack stop and boom you are still 1-2 with soft tyres. I didn't get why they didn't do that.
Leclerc wasn't faster than Sainz, it was the DRS dragging him along. As soon as Sainz pitted, Leclerc dropped down to Sainz' pace. Martin Brundle even mentioned this.
Ferarri also did make several decisions: they kept Sainz in front as he was the pole sitter and hitting his targets. When he didn't, he was put in second place. Just because it wasn't helping Leclerc, doesn't mean they made a decision, it just means they made a different decision than Matty wants.
The same goes for the tire swap, remember Hamilton staying out on his own?
yeah, lotta Ferrari fans are blinded by Leclerc bias. This race was Carlos' to win most of the time. they had similar average pace across the race so honestly, makes sense to take your pole sitter to P1.
finally a comment that make sense in all these Leclerc lovers
1. If Hamilton had stayed out on used Hards, he would've been a sitting duck. Merc would be too dumb to do that LOL. Hards were not firing up quickly. Used Hards even worse.
2. Leclerc was the only Ferrari on Hamilton's pace as Sainz had destroyed his tyres battling Max in the beginning. Swap was done too late. Leclerc sat behind in the dirty air for too long so when Sainz finally let him past, it was of no use.
Max had a off weekend, you take opportunities like this to get points for the driver that is actually fighting for the championship. What the end result did was now Carlos and Charles are 11 points away from each other and that means championship is lost. No one is going to play the team game in future races.
@@jonotto1997 Go and watch the race again lol. I think you saw a different race. Even on used mediums Leclerc was faster than Sainz on new Hards and when Leclerc switched to Hards he was even faster. It's not Leclerc bias, it is Support the driver that is actually in the championship and who has already had a lot of issues in last 5 races due to no fault of his own. All this has done is bring Sainz so close to Leclerc in the championship that there will be more tension in future races. I think it is you who is not looking at how the championship is gone now. Championships are won with a little bit of ruthlessness. See RB and Merc.
Ferrari can kiss the championship good bye. Congrats to Red Bull and Max!!!
@@143Pankit nah definitely saw the same one. Carlos picked up his pace midway through and they averaged out to being pretty close to equal. Carlos was the clear choice. No vehicle damage, similar pace, and was in the position to win. May as well have been Carlos over Hamilton or Perez, if you're Ferrari.
3:01 it is NOT a 50/50 decision. Ferrari doomed themselves by not switching the two drivers earlier on the hard stint. It's just incredible that both cars can lose 2 seconds from Lewis by fighting and defending against each other.
Well actually Charles wasnt even really fighting. He did not want to risk a crash and partially let Sainz go for some laps to make sure he doesnt ruin his tires even further. Ferrari just doesnt make sense.
They thought Carlos would roll over and act Minister of Defense for Charles. Thankfully they thought wrong, Carlos needed the boost, even if he had to wrench it for himself.
This. And a better performing Sainz is good for Leclerc. The latter needs Sainz to take as many points away from verstappen. Hopefully Carlos can build from his maiden win and eke out more from his car
That strategy would’ve only compromise Sainz chances, and would be of no practical help for Leclerc. At that point, Carlos call was the best option.
@@broderickfall but he is taking points from his own team mate, first Monaco and now Britian
@@broderickfall thing is, he is not really taking points of Max, more of Leclerc :S
To win a championship is extremely difficult. When you find yourself with a championship winning car you need to maximize every opportunity. I love sainz but this season clerc is much faster. You see it in every race. Race pace and qualifying. The team is crazy to not to have a one and two driver and use this to maximize points. This is defs a WTF moment
We all thought Monaco was Ferrari's greatest disasterplan/strategy blunder, till came that lap in Silverstone. Big disappointment.
Same. From P1 to P4. Monaco hurt him 100× more due to it being his "cursed" home race and started from pole...
@@glidertastic5778 not only this year. Even in mexico 2019 they dropped him p1 to p4 through same strategy calls.
Only silver lining was Sainz's victory
@@varixalint i don't think i can call that a silver lining, i can only call that as 'a small plaster on a big wound'.
Now its hungary
I feel like Ferrari just needs someone that asks themselves every lap, "if there was a safety car this lap, what would I do?" This happens way to much. Mercedes and Red Bull compete at such a higher level.
Charles is leading in terms of points at Ferrari, he was clearly faster than Carlos with a damaged car and was in the lead when the safety car came on. Ticks all the boxes to get first preference. But its Ferrari. They like to make things unnecesarily difficult for themselves.
Charles now starting to realise how tough Seb had it.
They just hate winning. Ferrari are the biggest bottlejobs I have seen
Austria GP results today proof only Charles has ability to overtake Max Verstappen. Sainz is not consistent enough to beat Max.
@@lynhru6854 Hungarian gp today proves there is a genocide needed at maranello
Yes, When RedBull recognizes their faster driver and prioritizes him (Spain) then everyone goes bonkers on the decision of Perez being robbed. And with the Silverstone Team orders and prioritizing is now fine among F1 fans.
Ding Ding Ding
We have a winner
Lol, I'm pretty sure that was because they were fighting nobody in that race? Context is key
Completely different scenarios mate. In Spain, Verstappen would have overtaken Perez and there was no doubt about that. Verstappen had absolute pace during the race AND Leclerc was already out with PU issues so the call seemed unnecessary and we were robbed of a battle between Verstappen and Perez. In England, you have Sainz holding up Leclerc who, despite having front wing damage, is faster than Sainz and is being chased down by Hamilton... losing precious seconds. You also have Verstappen and Perez out of the mix but NOT out of the race. Sainz won't win you the championship and certainly has proven to be far less reliable than Leclerc (whom Ferrari have failed before with strategy). The right decision is to prioritize your number one driver, yes, at the expense of the number two driver. If Sainz wants to be number one, he can earn it. You understand now?
@@JJ-fu7mw You litteraly gave the exact reason why they did it. "Verstappen would have overtaken Perez and there was no doubt about that". That's EXACTLY why they did it. Why would they risk a double dnf and throw away an easy 1-2 when the outcome was always gonna be Verstappen at p1?
@@JJ-fu7mw Well Sainz alone has been making better strategy decisions:
-in Monaco he decided to forego inters because the track was drying up, if the Williams hadn't ignored blue flags on Carlos out lap he could have won
-now in Silverstone he decided to race Leclerc in that last sprint because he had better tires
He is only 11 points behind Charles while having one more retirement. He has 6 podium finishes vs Leclerc's 4. If Leclerc's 'luck' continues Sainz may find himself ahead of his teammate.
As a Red Bull fan, it's super entertaining seeing what self-destruct strats Ferrari can come up with every GP
Lol i thought all hope is lost and Ferrari is getting a comeback but they fuck*ed themselves lmao
Having watched the race back - In the first stint Carlos lead Charles for about 2/3 laps maximum potentially holding him up before stopping on lap 20 for hards. As soon as Charles was released, Hamilton actually gained on him further and there is an argument that he was actually helping Charles with the drs to maintain the gap to Hamilton. Eventually when Charles pit, he came out further behind Carlos by near enough 2s so if he was actually faster why didn't he manage to overcut/ at least come out in the same position he was previously?
Second stint he took some time to close the distance to Carlos again before he was effectively being held up and again it was only 2 laps before Ferrari swapped the positions of the drivers.
Once they swapped Charles was able to pull a gap of about 3s to Carlos before he had to start saving fuel which inevitably took the gap to around 4.5s and then safety car comes out.
The rest is pretty self explanatory, there wasn't enough time to double stack both drivers, you can clearly see Charles and Carlos in the same camera shot as he comes into the pits.
Having just been through Monaco they learned from their mistake and didn't want to compromise Carlos race, effectively just doing everything so Charles can win.
The difference between a 1:2 and a 1:4 is 6 points so it's really not that big a loss in the championship. Charles was better equipped in terms of Tyres at the end to hang on than Carlos who would most likely have been passed by Alonso and maybe Norris with his 20lap old hards.
Imo they should have pit Charles first or let him pass Carlos in the first stint to avoid any hold ups but I'm not mad with how it played out because it was definitely one of the best races I've seen
Finally someone that gets what was really going on
Agreed. I actually think they made the right call. Once the safety car came out, the 1/2 disappeared. A 1/3 was really their best-case scenario.
In fact, if Carlos would have followed team orders and gave Leclerc 10 car lengths on the restart, Carlos probably still would have won, but Leclerc might have come in 3rd instead of 4th.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who watched the race.
@WTF1 u should make a video on this !!!! this comment clears up so much !!!!!
Except you are forgetting charles had to burn though the tires (with a broken front wing) because he was not allowed to pass Carlos in the first stint, while Lewis was almost in free air
Ferrari continues to make strategy blunders again and again because there is some fundamental issues in the decision making process and methodologies. Seems like they cannot make decisions based on data like what Mercedes and RedBull does and secondly there is a delay in decision making leading to incorrect decisions . If Mattia is not accepting that there is some issue in strategy calls then he is a fool. While majority of F1 followers agree it made sense to pit LeClerec , Mattia is insisting they were right . That explains they are not ready to accept the issue, which means same blunders continue to happen again in future.
Exactly, teams like RB and Mercedes always recognize that there is something to be learned from, even from a win. Ferrari always believes that they are right and everyone else is wrong.
@@NexuJin well said, i really like leclerec but god fking damnit ferrari knows how to fuck shit up one way or another but fails to recognize the issue.
Admitting they made a mistake is the first step and Ferrari is not even doing that
This has been this way for too long! Remember Kimi saying, "'Just tell me what to do" after the team issued the order "Yellow flags in Milan at half-mast after Wednesday" or some such nonsense.
@@deamonxiayu And so the spirit of Enzo Lives on! Actually, when he was around, they Won, without admitting 'making mistakes'
im a red bull fan but i feel for leclerc i really do, the guy has a great opportunity to win a championship yet the team is not helping. it must be so frustrating for him...
Binotto said it himself. The goal this year is not to become champion but to be competitive. Good to see he sticks with his goals. This is a man with a vision 🧐
That is exactly what I thought. Now I am asking, Why does Ferrari NOT want Charles to win the Driver's Championship?
@@michaelsullivan3581 That's what we are all asking. I think you need to be Italian to understand it. I think it's some sort of secret weapon 🤪
@@michaelsullivan3581 This is the first time in a long time that I have seen a Team Principal from a top team gladly throw away the title chances of his #1 driver willy nilly.
People need to understand that the teams know more than the spectadors and that making fun and critisising is easy but making the decisions at the moment is a lot more tricky
the fact that it's difficult to make a decision in the moment, doesn't excuse the mistake. That's why they have hundreds of peope behind the scenes, to make sure this goes right. We've seen tons of tactical mistakes by Ferrari this season, way more than any of the other teams.
This was an easy decision. Safety Car in, it actually happens before you reach the pit entry, of course you're going in to change tyres - this is the first thing you think about when SC period comes. That's like SC strategy scenario 101. It's not like when it starts to rain/ dry up and you have to guess the exact time to switch tyres to profit the most from it.
There's no excuse for not pitting your driver in this scenario, who's leading the race before his teammate and is also the main contender for the championship AND whose main rival just had a damage and was far back on the field. There's no excuse for not doing a double stack which would've resulted in a 1-3 at the WORST, since Checo was so far behind and the SC hadn't collected the drivers together. There's absolutely no excuse for this, since everyone behind the TV could see this clearly, without all the data, without all the telematry the teams have and in the moment the SC came in, we all had the split decision. Yet Ferrari didn't and now they're trying to explain themselves, but ending up digging an even greater hole to lay in.
It's like Ferrari is doing all of this deliberately so there would be absolutely no way they could remain in the title fight against Max and Red Bull. Poor Charles, he's stuck here for the time being and has nowhere to go where he could be a world champion. Because as long as he stays with Ferrari, he'll never even have the chance and it won't be his fault.
That wasn´t tricky. Could have easily call a double stack and they would have been save.
No mate, I agree with that point for literally any other team. But even Ferrari had other teams scratching their heads
Don't forget Turkey last year when Charles asked what would happen if he remained at his current pace vs Bottas
I don't remember which race or year but I do remember Ferrari trusting their multi million euro computer over on track data, costing a Q2
At 2:22, I completely agree. Everyone would have come in regardless of what Charles did. Mid race, sure, do the opposite of the P1 car, good idea. It was a whole different story at that point of the race. Everyone wanted fresh tires to attack at the end. We all know how important that is (2021 Finale, I'm looking at you).
As a Max fan I feel pretty confident he is gonna win the championship with the decision making of Ferrari
This is the second time Sainz has gone against ferraris decisions and made his own strategy, he did better both times (monaco and silverstone)
Personally, I’m glad Ferrari is hesitant to give team orders. Yes, it probably would have made more sense for the team to just have Sainz let Leclerc by, but I think it says a lot that they actually have Sainz a chance first with target lap times before eventually sending Leclerc through. I doubt drivers like being used as a pawn to help their teammate. Just look at how well Bottas is doing as a team leader after having to play second fiddle to Hamilton for years. Also, does any fan enjoy watching a race victory come down to one car letting another pass? Either way, amazing race, super happy for Sainz.
If teams play the strategic game and show favour to a driver people moan, if teams play fair and don't make decisions that favour a driver then people moan. Even in victory there is no winning with fickle fans
Lando and a few others pitted on the second lap of the safetycar when they saw that most people was switching to softs because loosing track position but being on the right tire was much better than staying out in old hards. Double stacking was the only choice, and yes, Carlos would've probably lost a few places, but he was not leading the race or the main title contender for the team.
Only 1 place- to Lewis. Because next in line was a recovering Perez who was around 19 seconds behind Hamilton before the safety car. So even if Sainz had a 7 second pit stop, he would have lost only 1 position
@@ramakrushnadash137 I think Lewis, given his Abu Dhabi 2021 experience, would not be caught with old tires in a race ending sprint again if avoidable.
Sainz is doing the work of the entire Ferrari strategists as well as driving, absolute madlad
If Ferrari did double-stack Charles and Carlos (in that order), yes, there was a chance that Hamilton would split the Ferraris. That would still be a 1-3 as opposed to a 1-4. They totally missed the fact that Perez was in the mix all of a sudden.
With the Safety Car restart, I don't think Ferrari would get 1-2 even if they did all the strategies right. Leclerc on softs would blast away and Carlos would be fighting with Red Bull and Merc - both of them had better pace than Carlos.
At best it would be Ferrari 1 and 3, but I think Carlos would ended up fourth. So for me its just Ferrari names swap.
Nope, Merc is no match for Ferrari. So at worst it would have been a 1-3 but Ferrari was too afraid to take the social media bully saying they blocked Carlos from his first win and played chicken.
Lol even if that happen what about drivers championship... Leclerc is best bet to fight against max not Sainz
Charles with worn hards was able to hold off lewis and checo for that long.. carlos with fresh soft would have fared much better.. worst would have been 4th.. which happened anyway, but chance of finishing higher were much more!! So, best strategy even as team would be double stack
Nah a double stack would have been more interesting. Both on softs with Hamilton infront ( infront if he didn't pit). They could easily pass him.
@@jkliao6486 Merc is no match for Ferrari? 😂 Lewis was reeling both of them in fast.
Quite frankly I’ve been sick to my stomach since Sunday, (if you think you take Ferrari’s strategy hard….. ) Leclerc has been massively let down this season and they don’t seem to be sorting it out. Poor guy. If I feel sick I can only imagine how he feels 😩
Another reason why Leclerc couldn't pit is that the safety car crossed the safety car line just before Leclerc could cross it which meant he had to stay behind the sc and he couldn't drive another lap to make a stop
As, a Carlos Sainz fan I see no problem here... Lol. They could have done better for the team, but I'm just happy it finally worked out for my boy.
Wait... So... Ferrari really thought that they could just give Carlos team orders and he would just block for LeClerc the rest of the race when he was on the faster tire... 😆
Like wtf is this strategy🤣
I think it was just to give him a small chance to heat his hard tyres up, not to defend him, Carlos and Checo were always gonna pass I think, would it have made some difference to Charles v Lewis in the end?
I think the double stack was on,the gap was massive (more like 9s) when Charles was at pit entry
@@PuRe_AdDicT sure, but put a soft of Charles and his 4th place becomes a 3rd place AT WORST.
Ferrari's Master 🅱lan (B stands for brain dead)
It was a brilliant gp apart from the Ferrari blunder
In 2018 when Seb pitted under safety car at lap 40-something while leading, it was a "no brainer". Overtaking(a merc) was harder at that time than this year also.
We have seen similar strategy by Mercedes last year twice. At the first incidence Hamilton was leading the race and after a red flag everyone else decided to start from pits with slick tyres except Hamilton ( the team didn’t want to sacrifice track position). The second incidence was the final race in Abu Dhabi, where again the team didn’t sacrifice position over fresher tyres. You can see a pattern here that when you lead a race , a preferable strategy is to keep the leading position for any reason, even if doesn’t pay off. So, I believe Ferrari went for the safest/ standard option and is nothing to do with Leclerc personally (obviously didn’t pay off) but it is what it is.
I think in that first case the teams were not allowed to communicate with the drivers as it was the formation lap. The other drivers knowing that they would have to pit for tires anyway and they could start from the pits did just that. Lewis did a lap on inters, and had to take tires next lap so he lost that lead.
@@lazarushernandez5827 All the drivers were aware about the status of the track (almost dry) in the formation lap including Hamilton. But if Hamilton chosen to pit obviously the rest may not go to pits, especially the second driver to gain track position. When the second driver decided to pit, then a reaction to the rest of the pack was necessary. Same with Carlos, he changes tyres and then a natural reaction to the rest was to pit as well.
@@anastasisgeorgiou3962 I get that, but it wasn't a team decision, because the drivers have no contact with the pits on the formation lap.
As you stated the formation lap was enough recon to know the track had dried sufficiently for a change of tires.
The choice was Hamilton's to make, if he had come in and taken dry tires while everyone stayed on wets/inters, he would sliced through half the field before the lap was complete, the rest of the cars would have pitted the following lap while he stayed out and would have had a ridiculous lead.
So it isn't a preferably option 😂
@@Pepe-hj4zt I can tell is the safest option to all the strategists, but don’t pay off very well lately 😁
Don't forget Charles has the same geniuses that said if he doesn't get overtaken he will come first (Turkey 2021)
It's also funny because some of Sainz best results this year have come from him ignoring the team orders or telling them its wrong (see Silverstone, Monaco, and also many from last year too).
Leclerc dare I say it, trusts his team TOO much.
I agree, Charles needed to learn one thing from Vettel. No matter what, the driver can be in charge of his own fate.
Yeah, what it he just had come in first and put pressure on the team
Ferrari is chained by the weight of it's heritage, reputation and hierarchy. In situations where you have only seconds to make a decision, you can't defer to the higher ups to confirm a choice before you make it. Like Carol Shelby said to Henry Ford "You can't win a race by committee". If this was Red Bull and Max Verstappen was in that position, you can bet your ass JP was never going to look at anyone or ask anyone, he would be in Max's ear shouting BOX BOX BOX. Because this is a crucial decision that has to be made quickly and damned be the consequences. If this fucks over the second driver in the team? Too bad, he should have been first and he'd get the pitstop preference. Nobody at Red Bull would look at it twice. It was the right call, and it had to be made, and it doesn't matter if they had the right to make it or not or if they should have cleared it first or not. And the tragic thing is, I don't think anybody at Ferrari would either, but the mythos that grew in that team makes everyone working there momentarily just hesitate that little bit. And those few seconds of hesitation is what costs you decisions like these. There is a reason "we are looking we are looking" is a meme. There is a committee lag at the Ferrari pitwall where every member double checks that what they are doing is correct, because they don't want to be the one who fucks it up more than anything. Because at Ferrari there is less of a blame for inaction than there is for incorrect action, even though the former can often cause as much damage as the latter. It's sad to see, but that's the reality.
I have nothing to add but just wanted to say this is an excellent comment.
Well said! I am reminded of the George S. Patton Quote: "A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."
You made my day 👍
To be fair it would have been cruel to take away Sainz’ maiden win and to give it to Leclerc with wing damage (who by the way was in no way capable of keeping up his pace after Sainz did his first pitstop). They probably thought the risk was too high
Finally someone who is not Leclerc's fan and actually have a good point
@@JnManuelAG hahaha yeah thanks. The Leclerc fanboy in Matt was clearly showing in this video
How was Leclerc "in no way capable of keeping up his pace with his wing damage" after the first pitstop? Leclerc caught up to Sainz within 3 laps and when allowed to overtake, he pulled out a 4 second gap at the front. So please explain how Leclerc was not able to keep up his pace again? I would like to hear that.
I'm no Leclerc fanboy. But you can call me whatever you want as long as you can explain how you came to the conclusion that "Leclerc was in no way able to keep up his pace with his wing damage".
@@kuyt20 fair enough he did catch up, which was impressive enough. But as soon as Sainz got the order to increase the pace, leclerc was only able to keep up because of DRS. Leclerc wasn’t allowed to overtake at all, they decided to box Sainz. After that, leclerc instantly started to lose more ground to Hamilton as he did not have DRS anymore (you can have a look at their laptimes, it will show this). Maybe because he had some tire deg, maybe because his wing was broken
@@tfuwantthen3786 His wing was broken. That gave him understeer in every corner. Meaning the tyre slides more, increasing degradation. And the understeer only increased further when he was stuck behind his teammate for multiple laps due to the turbulent air. You can hear Leclerc saying "I have to take care of my tyres now" just before Sainz was pitted. That is why Hamilton gained on him - understeer and higher tyre deg.
5 races in a row without a podium (nevermind wins) for Charles... for a title-contender that's mind-boggling, even more if you can't assign him any blame for that.
Even with the risk of double stacking and dropping position. You are giving your drivers the chance to overtake and fighting on equal tyres with your faster car.
I fear Leclerc might repeat how Ferrari bungled Alonso's career. Alonso delivered always to the maximum yet Ferrari fell short.
Yes they should’ve been quicker to implement team orders.
But the pit stop strategy made perfect sense. Splitting the strategy covers off hamilton and co., leclerc had fresher tires + damage that could’ve hindered his soft tyre pace, and no one knew whether or not the softs would perform at that point yet. If ferrari botched a double stack and hamilton stayed out to win, everyone would be asking why one didn’t stay out
I get your point but I don't think it would've been possible for Lewis to keep Sergio, Carlos and Charles behind him if they all pitted for new softs and he stayed out on his aging tyres.
Merc would have certainly pitted lewis.. they knew that track position is not that important on track like britain and certainly not in rolling start..
If lewis hadnot pitted, he would have finished behind even alonso.. merc dont have that big straight line speed
keep it up lads! Great vid
Simple answer, Sainz had the best chance at the win from behind the safety car, pit Leclerc and Sainz loses track position because of the double stack. Everyone on fresh rubber against Charles with a damaged wing would have been hard to hold onto the lead.
Pretty short-sighted considering Leclerc has the best chance at winning the WDC for Ferrari.
He didn't get black and orange, plus he was already faster than Sainz even with broken wing and with Max out of equation it was best chance for Leclerc to win and min gap
@@jkliao6486 Ferrari would rather get more team points for constructors, but respect your opinion, I'm just looking at it more from a team perspective. The main thing to take from it, as a neutral, is how great that battle between the P2-P6 to the chequered flag was.
@@sportsmag6148 Even from a team perspective, 1-3 finish is better than 1-4.
No, sainz did not have the best chance.. charles matches him on mediums and much faster on hards.. ferrari should have douvle stacked and even if carlos had come behind lewis, that fight was on equal footing, compared to what happend in reality with charles
It gave me some Abu Dhabi flashbacks where the lead car was too eager to keep track position instead of pitting for fresh softs
I think that was because they tought the race would end under SC.. and than we know how it's ended with Masi 😂
Thanks for following some of the feedback requested a month or two ago and adjusting either the mic itself or the EQ on the mic
I'm genuinely curious for others' opinion but asking why Ferrari didn't just give team orders seems to me cause, as I understand it, both Charles and Carlos are supposed to more or less equal from the team treatment standpoint. Neither have officially been classed as first driver (can't remember when or where I heard that I'm afraid). Also Ferrari have been chastised in the past for team orders (Schumacher-Barrichello in Austria 2002, "Fernando is faster than you") and let's be honest, team orders at this stage of the championship isn't fair. I'm a Red Bull fan and I'm NOT happy with team orders being given to Checo at Barcelona and Baku even though I get the strategic reasoning and I'm glad Checo got the chance to prove himself at Monaco and in Silverstone. Similarly I'm glad Carlos had the guts to go "screw your orders" and push for the win. If Charles was SO much faster then he should prove it and overtake Carlos in a proper race.
To be fair to those team orders, Max was faster then Checo in Spain, and in a whole different stratosphere in Baku
I wonder if they were being overly cautious about double-stacking after the Monaco disaster.
Great to see Carlos get the win, but let’s be honest, it’s been way too long.
Luck has never been on his side though
better late than never. just ask Perez
Yes, Perez had 190 races before his first win. @@dochidesu
I must say, Leclerc was faster than Carlos WHEN he was on the DRS of Carlos, when not, Carlos was still a little bit faster than Charles all the time
Yeah right that’s why Charles had a 5s lead before the safety car. Took him only 8 laps to open a 5s gap, but yeah Carlos was faster sure.
Ferrari I’m sure did it all on purpose. They needed to get Sainz a win, motivation, and momentum. Redbull and Mercedes have two drivers who are regularly delivering. I’m guessing they felt this might get them two star drivers to fend off the others.
Yup, this is also my theory, they kept saying Leclerc should’ve won for the championship but in the long run, if your second driver is not delivering, then it would be a 1 v 2 for the rest of the season and it would be just as hard, if not harder to catch up the RBs, still a bad strategy tho, but if it pays of in the long run, I wouldn’t mind
If Sainz cannot motivate himself without being gifted a win at the cost of his quicker teammate, maybe Ferrari should think about replacing him with someone else? I hear there is a current F2 champion looking for a seat. I'm sure he'd be pretty darn motivated to play ball with the team.
With Carlos out of the way after pitting, Leclerc didn't seem to do much without DRS.
Because his tires were destroyed following Sainz. And have you seen his pace after he was released on the hard tires? He was .5 second faster than Carlos on 1 lap. 1 LAP!
I do agree that Ferrari should of pitted Leclerc, they easily had the space to pit both. However I don't agree they would of avoided this issue if they told sainz to get out of the way earlier. That would of meant Leclerc would of been even further ahead and would of actually missed the pit entry altogether so still wouldn't of been able to pit for softs and come out ahead of Sainz and Lewis
unlikely, they had 6 seconds to decide..... his gap wouldn't have been 6 seconds
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Impossible to know, the decision to make Charles pass Carlos was during the first stint. The yellow flag was in the last 20 laps.
If he has missed the pit entry , he could have not been picked up by the safety car too, which means he could have gone full speed and still taken over as the lead car
@@aravindashokkumar92 great point! Does this mean the SC only picks up the leader if he hits the SC line before the pit entry and not if he already is driving on the straight during a VSC?
I'm really happy for Carlos for shutting down Ferarri stupidity over the radio.
This will probably be the race.where you can trace the complete breakdown of Ferrari. Mercedes will probably find a way to be #2 in WCC.
The moment Leclerc stayed out and Sainz pitted, I knew they threw away a Ferrari 1-2.
Even with wing damage, Leclerc was faster than Sainz. At the very least, change his tires. At most, they probably could have had Sainz slow down Hamilton before the pitlane and change tires as well as the front wing of Leclerc. Sainz is allowed to go slow as long as it's not unfairly slow. We've seen Mercedes pull this trick before.
They could have had a 1-2 as Perez being so much quicker would have been battling with Lewis, slowing them both down.
And 4th? Perez was like 20 seconds behind, having to keep to the delta. Even changing Leclerc's front wing, he would have come out ahead of Perez.
This isn't the first time they screwed up a pit call and it won't be the last.
From what I heard Ferrari had 11 seconds to pit Leclerc and Sainz, yet they only pitted Sainz. So it still doesn't make any sense.
If the double stack happened (I'm not sure if the gap was big enough to Charles to pit before Sainz and not double stack), Sainz would lose his position to Hamilton in the pits, and Checo imo 100% would overtake him, so for me, would be 1-4 for Ferrari either way, but they let Sainz get his maiden victory and now, that it's out of the way, the team can impose orders more harshly.
Umm they had enough of a gap for a stack. Worse scenario would be a 2-3 in an event Hamilton didn’t pit and they would still be able pick Lewis off
11 points behind Leclerc and mathematically in a fight against the Red Bulls,don’t see them imposing any sort of team orders and if anything would be massive if Leclerc can recover mentally from this.
Karun on SkySports broke down the gaps nicely and questioned Binotto about it…you know something is bad when British SkySports people won’t leave it alone and tell Ferrari they got it wrong lol
I think that Ferrari believed that Carlos would just roll over and give Charles the 10 car-length head start on team orders. Then Charles would have a few extra seconds lead at the restart, and Carlos would have the fresh tyres. Carlos could have the speed to stay ahead, maybe, and Charles would have a time buffer before others caught up to him.
Maybe that would have got them the 1-2? Although I'm not convinced Carlos could have kept Perez and Hamilton behind him.
But asking Carlos to sacrifice his opportunity for his first win to protect his teammate was a sh***y thing to ask and Carlos was absolutely right to ignore them.
Gonna be a great vid Matt.
Ferrari strategists really gotta sort things out in there. You sure you weren’t crying ?😉
Definitely an easier decision to make in hindsight. I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt, as we don't have the full picture at the time. I suspect they where afraid of a pit stop disaster, when this result guaranteed getting points over Verstappen.
As for swapping the cars; Leclerc was damaged, and Ferrari seemed to think it was more severe than it appeared. Plus, driving with lost downforce, puts more wear on the mechanical grip. Leclerc was likely chewing through rubber keeping pace with Sainz, it was probably thought they'd just have to swap back again a few laps.
I'm not a Ferrari fan or anything, just throwing some points out there that the video missed.
No, at the time as son as I saw SC on my screen knew it was time to pit It's like a reflex a this point
In that case, you choose the leader of the team in points for the race in Word championship, not the second.
Not really, its a pretty simple decision; especially when you have much more data than the people watching on TV have and the people on TV were still able to make the correct decision. The odds a disaster in the pits happens is incredibly small, you shouldn't be planning with anything like that in mind if you really want to win (which if that was the case why bring in Sainz at all if his pit stop could end poorly and cost them points over RB? Verstappen was in 9th place; it isn't like he could really bring it back that hard with only 10 laps to go).
Its also pretty obvious that Leclerc's damage wasn't that bad as he wasn't just keeping pace with Sainz, he was asking to pass him because he was significantly faster than Sainz. Ferrari gave him a good ol' multi-21 and then "let them fight" for some god unknown reason that cost them several seconds to Hamilton. The condition of the tyres wouldn't matter either because if Leclerc went ahead, he'd have a much easier time keeping the tyre wear down because there's no pressure from a driver behind.
Really, the end result shows that both Ferrari and Sainz need to learn that Sainz wanting a win isn't as important as letting their No.1 driver get points towards the championship. Its kinda harsh, but F1 is a team sport where one driver will win and another will help them win; Bottas at Merc was a great example of this along with Checo Perez with his incredible defenses of Hamilton last year. Ferrari needs is someone who actually understands this fact and doesn't try and play both sides because playing both sides will result in winning nothing.
@@robot3759 it's true that sainz should be more willing to do team orders, but on the flip side if the Ferrari drivers don't say no to their dumb pit wall they'd likely lose points. at this point i'm thinking they the drivers disobeying pit orders would be more beneficial for the team than following them with how bad their calls have been, example Monaco and probably this Silverstone race as well would've been a loss if Carlos went with their insane strategy
If I was Charles, I would force myself to pit. Congrats to Carlos tho
Possibly Leclerc had run out of fresh soft tyre? We never know
@@luuduonghy659 Mattia will be placed in a hot seat for this, this was just stupid and should've capitalized on a Verstappen car struggle. I feel sorry for the tifosi.
Charles is too much for a nice dude so he listens what ferrari says.A guy like Alonso would have been fuming inside
@@luuduonghy659 they all had fresh softs left. As none were used in qualis
Ferrari strategy can't go more complex than: "Start from pole, lead the race, pit, pass two or three cars, win the race"If you add a single more variable it falls apart completely.
If sainz would let a gap to leclerc at the green flag, maybe he would have a greater chance of staying ahead of lewis and checo. Sainz would still not have drs for the few first laps so it wouldn't be a big deal. I don't think Sainz made it out of selfishness, he just wanted the win, but the team orders were horrible and also not there.
Congrats to Carlos tho. Hopefully this’ll take some pressure off him.
It seems Ferrari mess up everytime they try not to mess up.....
So they should focus on deliberately messing up , this way leclerc might win !!!!!
I am happy, that they did not ruined great race by team orders. Just imagine an easy victory of Leclerc and Sainz on 4. position instead of great battle in the end. This was fun to watch and Sainz has first victory in Ferrari.
Nobody:
UA-camrs whenever their voice is slightly off: *Sorry I have a bit of a cold right now*
Probably unpopular opinion, but when Leclerc got free, he rolled at the same times if not slower. He wasn't much faster after Sainz picked up pace.
He pulled 5 seconds to sainz in a short time, not an opinion just wrong
charles' tyres are destroyed moreso because he was following carlos. with both on fresh tyres, charles' pace are way faster than carlos even with the broken aero.
Agreed. It’s a blunder similar to that made by Mercedes at Abu Dhabi; not to pit Hamilton under SC. But amazing to see how strong Le Clerc could defend on used hards for numerous laps.
What took you so long Matt 😂😂😂 I thought you would have done this video a lot sooner🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
When Charles asked to swap position and they said "will get back to you", made me feel like the decision came from Binotto, not the strategy team. Because you have to be the eorst strategist to not to go with it.
What do i think?
I think Ferrari needs to fire its strategy team
Agreed... as soon as Binotto said they were not fightning for a championship win was big red flag....
There was a 4 second gap between Charles and Carlos. That was enough time to double stack them.
But then the engineers turned clown
"Carlos, Charles is faster than you" would have done the job. They need not say leave way for Charles.
You couldn't be more wrong. Carlos was dragging Charles along with DRS to minimise losses from the damaged front wing, that's what the target times were crucial for. It's not just about pace, but tyre wear. Also, can't double stack and Carlos needed tyres more then Charles.
I’m happy for Sainz, but they screwed LeClerc over. They should have told them to switch positions earlier, and they should have pitted LeClerc. JJ Abrams can say his strategists did well, but they did not. Sainz took charge, and brought home a podium, and if he’d listened to the orders, we woulda had Checo(1), Lewis(2), Carlos(3) on the podium.
But by doing this, it will ruined Ferrari hope of win
Thanks for this explanation, your videos are really well made.
I believe that Ferrari just wanted to support this weekend Carlos more than Charles just because Carlos got the pole and he needed that win to feel better for the upcoming weekends while Charles knows that his form is amazing and it is just reliability and the team letting him down. We have seen this year bigger mistakes by Ferrari, this one wasn't that bad. Thank god Max had that issue so the championship is still on
As a Sainz fan, the first half of the video sounded like a complete and utter roast
I do think hindsight and your love of Leclerc is clouding your view a bit. That said, I think pitting both at the safety car would've been the best call. I also think you're being a bit too hard on them, since they did win the race, just that it wasn't the one you wanted to win. I don't think they should play favourites this early in the season. Both drivers have the ability to win the WDC, and really it's the total team points that make the most difference the team, since the financial rewards are based on constructor, not driver, championship. It still doesn't mean they made the right call, but I just don't think it's as bad as you (and some other Leclerc stans) are making it out to be.
In an alternate world, i want to see what would've happened if Ferrari *DID* pit Leclerc. I feel a 1-2 was thrown away 🙏
Indeed
Spot on mate
A few years ago during the Vettel/Ferrari era Ferrari once got so sick of people calling their strategies in to question that they actually put out a press release stating that their strategy team was extremely highly rated and making very difficult decisions based on complex situations. Several reporters immediately responded at being surprise to learn that Ferrari _had_ a strategy department.
Binotto once said:
"We don't fight for championships, we just want to be competitive"
Yep. And the sooner they replace him, the sooner they will finally win another title.
I have never been as angry as I was during the GB GP race; I had to leave the house to calm down because I was raging. It was an easy decision to make on swapping Charles with Carlos and the tyres during the safety car - they’re hurting themselves, and until this is sorted, the clowns will continue to run the asylum. Yet again, they cocked it up with the tyres, and I’m fed up with them. This was YET ANOTHER BLUNDER OF EPIC PROPOSITIONS. Monaco, Spain, GB, and Baku have let Charles down differently, and Binnoto needs to get his house in order rn!
I’ve always chosen to remain loyal to any team I choose (for every sport) and from the age of the 4yrs old that goes to Ferrari. However this year they make that harder and harder after each race! Yes, I can understand double stacking pit stops for any team would make anyone hesitate but in this circumstance I’m sorry… I cannot reason with Ferrari. As soon as we all saw Lecler stay out we all knew what would be the outcome…Ferrari F***** themselves over - ROYALLY. Yet again though, a damaged front wing and to battle Perez and Hamilton who were on fresh softs… Lecler deserves a better team - pains me to admit!
People like Brawn and Todt need to step in again for Ferrari and provide their expertise to these bunch of school boys in management.
I only hope they let Sainz win on purpose, aiming the fact that your 2nd driver (yes, now I believe that even Carlos knows he is no.2) now feels more comfortable and will be more likely to "help" Leclerc fight for the WDC, which is still open. 43 points is not that much, everything can happen.
11th race in 2018 = Germany
Honestly I don't think the 1-2 was possible. Even with new tyres, Leclerc still had a broken front wing. Hamilton and Perez would still have gotten past him. Sainz had a completely undamaged car, and if double-stacking wasn't possible, the smartest decision by far for the team is to pit Sainz and leave Leclerc out to try and hold off Perez and Hamilton as long as possible. If you pit Leclerc, you're giving up a 1-4 for a 3-4.
So in essence you're doubting Sainz's ability to keep Perez and Hamilton behind? I don't think Perez would've caught Leclerc even if he passed Sainz. Your entire assumption is based on the fact that Perez and Hamilton are gonna team up lol. They would be fighting with each other too. That would've helped both Leclerc in front and Sainz in the midst of the battle. Hamilton was quicker through the corners but Perez was quicker on straights. Even if Hamilton would've passed Perez, Perez would re-passed him in DRS zones. All of this squabbling would've assisted but you never know that until you try. Broken wing and undamaged car is redundant. Leclerc was faster all race with the broken wing.
Charles would have never lost on New Softs just based on his pure pace all race. Essentially you would be getting the same 3 way battle we saw but with Leclerc ahead and Sainz with new softs in the 3 way battle
@@143Pankit I'm saying if they tried to double-stack Sainz would have never had the chance, he'd come out behind Perez and Hamilton, and no amount of fighting the two of them could do could possibly make them slower than Leclerc unless they ran each other off the track. The idea that Leclerc was faster this race is just cope from Leclerc fans - Sainz was considerably faster and has been for the past few races as well. The best thing Ferrari can do at this point for their championship standings is to change focus from Leclerc to Sainz. Leclerc has now dumpstered several races due to his lack of experience causing strategy problems and mechanical failures, and Sainz has done his best to pick up the slack each time and done very well in doing so. Ferrari has the car to win this year, but they need to support a driver that's not going to blow it up every single race.
Red Bull: Gives team orders
Everyone: Unfair! Let them race!
Ferrari: Does not give team orders
Everyone: Give team orders! Leclerc was faster! Leclerc is in a championship fight!
Sainz and Charles should have an agreement that they’ll both do the exact opposite of whatever strategy tells them
It's funny that sainz was fighting the team over the radio during the race and then at the end, it's a dream come true to win in a Ferrari. It's a powerful brand they're destroying.
I can’t remember the last time I saw Charles smile on a race day. Ferrari is literally breaking the soul of the best driver they’ve had in a long time.
A lot of people are comparing this Ferrari strategy call with Leclerc similar to Mercs 2021 Abu Dhabi strategy call with Lewis... where he was leading the race.
I mean, yes, on the outset of the whole net result is same for both - Both of them were leading before the safety car , both of them were left on old hard tires to keep the track position and both of them lost their position as soon as safety car restart happened.
But - if we look into both cases and try to understand both the scenarios - then I guess - people should realize that NO - even though it looks and feels same - the circumstances/race situation in both the cases wildly different!!
The safety car incident happened in the Abu Dhabi GP 2021 when there were only 5 laps to go!. The crash happened at such part of the race track where Latifi's car retrieval/extraction wasn't possible that quickly using just a slip road. The car would have to be pulled out using a support vehicle.
So - in all the known history of the sports and the ideal sporting and safety procedural knowledge of the sports - achieving this wasn't possible in 5 laps. So - the ideal call from the Race control should have been a Red Flag. But that didn't happened - it remained as Full Safety Car --- So there was no logic and sense at all for pitting Lewis under Safety car and loose the track position... as safety car has to go around lapping until (**all**) the lapped race cars are sent through and rejoined the pack behind.
But we all witnessed what happened -- and how just 1 person's wits under the pressure for delivering a entertaining finale sent the whole racing procedures for a toss ---- and just changed everything.
In British GP 2022 - Ferrari wasn't in the similar situation!! - Safety car incident happened when there were more than 12 laps remaining to end! with LEC leading and followed by SAI & HAM on the same old hard tires within 5s while PER 23s behind HAM!!!!
Ocon's car came to halt on the track just beside the old pit straight... which made it fairly easy to retrieve.
So any expectation of a Red Flag or of safety car stretching till the end of the race was just illogical.
Ferrari had enough window to get LEC into pits and release him with a fresh softs behind SAI & HAM (had they not chosen to pit) and ahead of PER on Meds (had he also not chosen to pit)
Leclerc would still have at least 8-10 laps to chase down HAM & SAI easily after the restart.
And had Ferrari double stacked - the worst would had been LEC followed by HAM(if Mercs chose to pit as well) and then SAI on fresh rubber... which would still gave them protection from PER behind (even if he had pitted for softs) and an opportunity of P1, P2 at best or a P1, P3 at worst.
But then it's now history. Sainz readily accepted the win served to him on a plate and very rightly disobeyed Ferrari's BS strategy of asking SAI to open up a 10 car lengths gap at front and act as the shield for LEC.
Hindsight had nothing to do with it. I was yelling to pit pit Charles as he was making his way to club from the track map, and when the camera cut to Carlos in the pits without Charles, we all knew the Ferrari strategist’s hair color changed to rainbow, and the noses to red!
I think the reason Carlos isnt that quick is because he has to figure out his own race strategy as well.