What an amazing instrument! How I'd love to see a band such as King Crimson in circa '72 w/ Jamie Muir incorporate this instrument into its lineup. How cool could THAT be?!
Amazing playing and beautiful sound. Had the chance to play a hurdy gurdy last weekend... this doesn't help calming my inner wish to buy one immediately ;)
My God! Usually the hurdy gurdy sounds like a strangled cat but this is amazing! It makes me want to take up the instrument but I'd probably end up sounding like in strangling a cat. Superb playing. Thanks
Me too! Just the nature of the beast, especilly when exposed, as here, but still very expressive when played well ~ though it can also work well in a mix with other instruments..
The problem is that it's actually quite difficult to construct a well working gurdy and that they are not as popular like, for example, guitars, so it's not really feasible to build factories which only build gurdies (which is why guitars are so cheap nowadays). I agree that it's unfortunate, though. :/ But if you're interested, the price is definitely worth it!
I just found this today haha :P I checked pricing and basically, a decked out model (Full Monty by Altar Wind) is priced at ~5000. Basic models are round ~1000. Im a guitarist who plays progressive metal. For an actual good guitar, expect to play round 1000. Brands like Schecter, ESP and Ibanez also makes insane guitars that retail for higher, especially when I play 7 and 8 string guitars
Who Even Djents Now I'm a guitarist, too, and I also used to play prog metal, but that's already some time ago. But I'm also a hurdy gurdy player, so I know both sides ;) I have never played a gurdy by AltarWind, so I cannot say anything about the quality of their instruments. But let me assure you, a 1000$ gurdy will be severaly limited, there's just no other way. You could compare a 1000$ gurdy to a 100-200$ guitar. So, while 1000$ will get you a good guitar, you won't get far here, unfortunately. Not that those instruments are bad, they certainly have their applications and uses, but I would highly advice every interested player in investing more, at least 3000$ (which then would be more or less comparable to a 1000$ guitar). The "Full monty" they sell for 5000$ looks good, but professional instruments like the one Loibner plays costs somewhere between 10,000 to 20,000$ dollars and certainly is on another level. Again, I cannot say anything about AltarWind, but there is a reason why the top instruments of all renowned Euorpean (where the instrument comes from) builders cost more than 10,000$ - and it's not that they want to become rich, because they certainly don't ;) But anyway, you're right that the prices are open ended, both for guitars or hurdy gurdies. But the fact is that you'll get a decent beginners guitar for around 300-500$, while you have to pay at least double for a gurdy. Another problem with gurdies is that they are a very high maintenance instrument. On the guitar you have to adjust the truss rod now and then or check the action etc. - but imagine you'd also have to adjust every single fret regularly. You have to do something comparable on the gurdy (every other week) and do other things comparable to those things mentioned above almost every week, too. There's a saying, that if you want to play hurdy gurdy, you have to be half an instrument builder yourself ;) While that is certainly exaggerated, it isn't completely wrong, either. So, with a gurdy, you don't also pay for good playability and sound, you also pay for "as low as possible maintenance", which is quite difficult to achieve, since the gurdy is hard to build in a way so that you don't have to do all those maintenance things all the time. I hope you don't think that I'm trying to bash the guitar or guitarists or anything. I don't, I love guitar (I play it myself ;) ). But the situation is better, because there is a much higher demand. If guitars were a niche instrument that you could only get from instrument builders and not from factories, the situation would be the same for guitars.
Well, I guess it had to happen eventually. The banjo and the bagpipes are no longer enough. If I'm going to make playing annoying musical instruments my life's mission, I gotta try to find a Hurdy-Gurdy somewhere...
II feel as though the "clacking sounds" add to it...re-listen to it and think of the sounds more of castanets almost as if you could picture in your head some gypsy dancing and using a set of castanets to make the sounds or possibly imagine a gathering of people clapping lightly...sorry just wanted to add that in.
So each button pushes all the melody strings which are set in active position? You actually can not play differend sound on each string at the same time, always the highest sound will be played if you push two buttons in the same time? You can't do intervals? Are the buttons like white and black in piano keyboard? Do I see properly that each button from hihger line (closer to the top) has 4 metal pins connected? what about lower line?
Kevin, there is something called the 'stringed bagpipe' and that is the lap dulcimer. It was designed to imitate the pipes by having two droning strings when strummed.
I actually like the clicking sounds, however you could put a piece of thin felt on the keys where the tangents hit the keybox. But I still like hearing the clicks it adds a uniqueness and an organic sound to it.
The clicking is part of the sound. I really like it. You could reduce the clicking by putting felt pads at the places where the keys are hitting, if wanted to take that noise out of the equation.
Interessante Erklärung und die Melodie im 2. Teil dieses Videos ist wunderchön! Gibt es die und ähnliches auf einer CD oder zum legalen Download im Internet?
really want one but cant find one anywhere, any ideas where a guy from Yorkshire, England, can get one? closest I had was ebay but it went from my bid of £200 to £500 in the very last minute
Part and parcel of the HG. The keys are not sprung and use gravity to drop down and so clunk. Felt pads don't work with the instrument otherwise it loses it's response. It's all been tried by the way and all slow down the time the key takes to drop so you are stuck with slow music if you mess with them. Trust me on this one ;)
It's not easy at all. It requires a thorough mastery of the instrument. The instrument has to be set up correctly, with just the right amount of cotton wool on the strings, and just the right quantity of rosin on the wheel, and even that varies from one instrument to the next, and according to the atmospheric conditions - to say nothing of the player's level of expertise. Anyone who takes up the gurdy has to be mad.
I doubt it no, but then again even though it is VERY similar it is played quite differently so I would guess its all subjective, there isn't much harder that the violin though...
You will not get a useable one for £500. This is not snobiness, but (unfortunately) the truth. It's not as popular as guitars etc. and not made in factories, each one is handmade, which makes them expensive. It also is a very delicate instruments and bad construction will result in an unplayble instrument. Be careful with gurdies that cheap, you might pay the money for an instrument which is only good for decoration.
An 18th century instrument that works better than modern camera focus.
To me, the hurdy gurdy is the most sophisticated instrument in the Western world.
My heavens - why isn't this delightful instrument more popular? Thanks, Meister Loibner, for preserving its art.
Amazing to me how an instrument that's so old could be so complex. Thanks for the demo! 😊
What a fantastic instrument
What an amazing instrument! How I'd love to see a band such as King Crimson in circa '72 w/ Jamie Muir incorporate this instrument into its lineup. How cool could THAT be?!
such an awesome, powerful instrument. wish they were more common.
He definitely proves the versatility of the instrument.
So this is the source of many medieval songs...
Beautiful instrument!!
I love the drone.
What a beautiful instrument and such mastery of playing. Wonderful. I enjoyed this video very much.
this is the coolest thing ive seen in a long time
Wow! So cool.
Thank you so much for posting this wonderful lecture - perfect for my music history class!!!
Wow fabulous. Those olden time people were clever fellers weren't they.
awesome!
Amazing playing and beautiful sound. Had the chance to play a hurdy gurdy last weekend... this doesn't help calming my inner wish to buy one immediately ;)
What a nifty little instrument.
You're a great player!! Really enjoyed this.
Wonderful!
My God! Usually the hurdy gurdy sounds like a strangled cat but this is amazing! It makes me want to take up the instrument but I'd probably end up sounding like in strangling a cat. Superb playing. Thanks
Me too! Just the nature of the beast, especilly when exposed, as here, but still very expressive when played well ~ though it can also work well in a mix with other instruments..
I think their use would be far more widespread if the price for them wasn't so prohibitive.
The problem is that it's actually quite difficult to construct a well working gurdy and that they are not as popular like, for example, guitars, so it's not really feasible to build factories which only build gurdies (which is why guitars are so cheap nowadays). I agree that it's unfortunate, though. :/ But if you're interested, the price is definitely worth it!
I just found this today haha :P
I checked pricing and basically, a decked out model (Full Monty by Altar Wind) is priced at ~5000.
Basic models are round ~1000.
Im a guitarist who plays progressive metal.
For an actual good guitar, expect to play round 1000. Brands like Schecter, ESP and Ibanez also makes insane guitars that retail for higher, especially when I play 7 and 8 string guitars
Who Even Djents Now
I'm a guitarist, too, and I also used to play prog metal, but that's already some time ago. But I'm also a hurdy gurdy player, so I know both sides ;)
I have never played a gurdy by AltarWind, so I cannot say anything about the quality of their instruments. But let me assure you, a 1000$ gurdy will be severaly limited, there's just no other way. You could compare a 1000$ gurdy to a 100-200$ guitar. So, while 1000$ will get you a good guitar, you won't get far here, unfortunately. Not that those instruments are bad, they certainly have their applications and uses, but I would highly advice every interested player in investing more, at least 3000$ (which then would be more or less comparable to a 1000$ guitar).
The "Full monty" they sell for 5000$ looks good, but professional instruments like the one Loibner plays costs somewhere between 10,000 to 20,000$ dollars and certainly is on another level. Again, I cannot say anything about AltarWind, but there is a reason why the top instruments of all renowned Euorpean (where the instrument comes from) builders cost more than 10,000$ - and it's not that they want to become rich, because they certainly don't ;)
But anyway, you're right that the prices are open ended, both for guitars or hurdy gurdies. But the fact is that you'll get a decent beginners guitar for around 300-500$, while you have to pay at least double for a gurdy.
Another problem with gurdies is that they are a very high maintenance instrument. On the guitar you have to adjust the truss rod now and then or check the action etc. - but imagine you'd also have to adjust every single fret regularly. You have to do something comparable on the gurdy (every other week) and do other things comparable to those things mentioned above almost every week, too. There's a saying, that if you want to play hurdy gurdy, you have to be half an instrument builder yourself ;) While that is certainly exaggerated, it isn't completely wrong, either. So, with a gurdy, you don't also pay for good playability and sound, you also pay for "as low as possible maintenance", which is quite difficult to achieve, since the gurdy is hard to build in a way so that you don't have to do all those maintenance things all the time.
I hope you don't think that I'm trying to bash the guitar or guitarists or anything. I don't, I love guitar (I play it myself ;) ). But the situation is better, because there is a much higher demand. If guitars were a niche instrument that you could only get from instrument builders and not from factories, the situation would be the same for guitars.
That makes sense haha :) Thanks for comfirmation ;)
Class! Thank you for this video!
Well, I guess it had to happen eventually. The banjo and the bagpipes are no longer enough. If I'm going to make playing annoying musical instruments my life's mission, I gotta try to find a Hurdy-Gurdy somewhere...
+Galen M Listen to Mooreiche and tell me it's lost on you, and I'll tell you that you have no soul.
So many times I heard what I thought were multiple fiddlers...I was probably hearing this! I gotta find one, and take it out for a test drive!
Dictionary.com word of the day brought me here. Fantastic instrument, I'm fuckin' amazed!
I have to get one!!
What is the name of that piece of music? It's absolutely fantastic!
love it
II feel as though the "clacking sounds" add to it...re-listen to it and think of the sounds more of castanets almost as if you could picture in your head some gypsy dancing and using a set of castanets to make the sounds or possibly imagine a gathering of people clapping lightly...sorry just wanted to add that in.
So each button pushes all the melody strings which are set in active position? You actually can not play differend sound on each string at the same time, always the highest sound will be played if you push two buttons in the same time? You can't do intervals? Are the buttons like white and black in piano keyboard? Do I see properly that each button from hihger line (closer to the top) has 4 metal pins connected? what about lower line?
lovely instrument, awesome tune. kinda similar to the new wheelharp.
My ears are saying "stringed bagpipe" and WOW, I like it! I wonder if there exists a jam involving a hurdy gurdy and a piper?
Yes its a popular combo in traditional French music.
Kevin, there is something called the 'stringed bagpipe' and that is the lap dulcimer. It was designed to imitate the pipes by having two droning strings when strummed.
A metal band called Eluveitie does this quite often in their softer music.
Joe Elder And a German metal band called Saltatio Mortis.
I love the clacking sounds to be honest. It's a machine.
I think I need one.
I actually like the clicking sounds, however you could put a piece of thin felt on the keys where the tangents hit the keybox. But I still like hearing the clicks it adds a uniqueness and an organic sound to it.
The clicking is part of the sound. I really like it. You could reduce the clicking by putting felt pads at the places where the keys are hitting, if wanted to take that noise out of the equation.
cool!
Isn't it basically like a crank violin with the bow being the wheel on the strings?
Eluveitie brought me here ;)
Eluveitie and Korpiklaani brought me here xD
lol Me too! xD
Paulo Luna hehe me too
KORPIKLAANI > all
That instrument makes some cool ass sounds!
very nice instrument and playing thinking about getting one myself btw you would probably be a beast at guitar hero lol
What was the song at the beginning from 0:00 to about 0:08 ? It was amazing!
Thank you Arin Hanson :D
wow
Interessante Erklärung und die Melodie im 2. Teil dieses Videos ist wunderchön! Gibt es die und ähnliches auf einer CD oder zum legalen Download im Internet?
Es gibt mehrere CDs von Matthias, dieses Lied hier findet sich auf seiner CD namens "Vielle à roue".
Danke! Ich wusste ja nicht, wie das Stück heisst und konnte deshalb nicht so einfach suchen.
Gerne! Gar kein Problem, so Musik liegt mir sehr am Herzen, da helf ich gern.
I love the clacking sounds to be honest. It's a machine. but I can see how you want the purity of the sound.
Cant you get a mic to go in side it to pick the sound up?
really want one but cant find one anywhere, any ideas where a guy from Yorkshire, England, can get one? closest I had was ebay but it went from my bid of £200 to £500 in the very last minute
The clacking is part of the sound of the instrument and it's intentional.
Is this instument sensitive ? Is it easy to get broken ??
clanking is what makes it hurdy-gurdy
That's a Bulgarian tune! :)
me too!
is the song he demonstrates on iTunes? haha
An early synthesizer?
Those things are fucking crazy.
Part and parcel of the HG. The keys are not sprung and use gravity to drop down and so clunk. Felt pads don't work with the instrument otherwise it loses it's response. It's all been tried by the way and all slow down the time the key takes to drop so you are stuck with slow music if you mess with them. Trust me on this one ;)
black sails
i want one
I like the clicking.
It's not easy at all. It requires a thorough mastery of the instrument. The instrument has to be set up correctly, with just the right amount of cotton wool on the strings, and just the right quantity of rosin on the wheel, and even that varies from one instrument to the next, and according to the atmospheric conditions - to say nothing of the player's level of expertise. Anyone who takes up the gurdy has to be mad.
HOW CAN I FIND ONE OF THESE ??
when it comes faster, between minute 4 and 5 sounds exactly like a Romanian feast music from the crop gathering...
@idzszatoh3 yeah I thought so too!
HEYYYYYYYYY
WHAT KIND OF THIS GURDY HURDY IS THIS..
HAVE SOME NAME IN SPECIAL....
I THING THAT IS A CHANTERELLE? IS OR NOT
Jimmy page brought me here
...funny. That's how I got here. No regrets either. I dig it.
I doubt it no, but then again even though it is VERY similar it is played quite differently so I would guess its all subjective, there isn't much harder that the violin though...
i wish there was a way to record it without hearing so much clacking sounds
Dronestring Bourdonstring Brontostring
Arcade fire brought me here
Game Grumps brought me here. anyone?
JUSTIN BIEBER WOULD MAKE GREAT USE OF THIS INSTRUMENT
Like how to spell?
You will not get a useable one for £500. This is not snobiness, but (unfortunately) the truth. It's not as popular as guitars etc. and not made in factories, each one is handmade, which makes them expensive. It also is a very delicate instruments and bad construction will result in an unplayble instrument. Be careful with gurdies that cheap, you might pay the money for an instrument which is only good for decoration.
then it would be called "violin".
HELL NO!!!!
It clicks too much for my liking.
Wow fabulous. Those olden time people were clever fellers weren't they.