@TimGrose Thanks for the review! I wonder how breathable the GTX is for everyday use and running? Also how good or bad is it for road running & wet surfaces? How does this model compare to the non GTX version since the construction is slightly different. I know it’s personal preference, though if you can only choose one which would be the best option? I guess it really depends on the use case. 👟
I tend to reach for GORE-TEX shoes in conditions where am more worried about keeping my feet dry as long as possible which tend to be less "warm" days and now in the UK we won't be seeing too many of them until well into each year. That said when I reviewed these it was still somewhat warmer and did not have any particular breathability concerns. Although this is really a trail shoe, I have found it also performs well enough on the road and in wet weather I find I am always being a bit more careful in any shoe than on dry days. This one gives me confidence to give through puddles much more so than in non GORE-TEX shoes. If your case use is just (or at least mainly) roads and often wet ones, then also worth considering the Pegasus 41 GORE-TEX which has a Storm Tread outsole which found grips well on the road but has more of a "smooth" surface than the lugged pattern on the trail one. I think this Trail one is better as a road-trail hybrid and is a bit lighter than the Peg 41. I don't have the non GORE-TEX trail one but have do the regular Peg 41 as well but in Volt so great for summer dry days - less so now! In the UK at least I tend to mostly use road shoes in the summer if I think any off road bits will be fairly dry. In the winter here I would reach for a GORE-TEX every time as then I feel I can anywhere with much more confidence.
Tbh - I loved the discontinued Nike Miler 2’s - one of the best ever all-rounder. And it was great in the shield gtx. I’m struggling to find a replacement. Even the Pegasus 40 just isn’t as good. That’s why I’m hesitating with these
@@dougbanff I only have the GTX ones but all my Nike shoes are the same size - UK 13/US 14 so I very much doubt I personally would need a different size in the non GTX onea. Do you need to go longer for more actual length and/or width?
Cracking review as always Tim. Superb colour choice mate. 👌I agree with it being a great option for casual / walking use. I personally see a lot of people walking both in town and on the trails in the peg gore tex around the Guildford area. 😎🤘
Certainly think they look good in the summer and when the mud returns (won't be long will it) I can really highlight any mud on heels. At least I will have some sort of trail shoe to use for runs with you.
It's funny because this version and the last one I both reviewed in nice warm summer weather with little or no mud around. That said, you still can get wet at any time (especially if volunteer for it!) and I thought white was indeed a "bold" choice this time.
My peg trail 4 gtx is becoming my trail shoe of all time: 1. It has a cushion very few trail shoe has, and a superb upper. 2. It is actually responsive and good for tempo and treshold on gravel and trail. 3. The upper dries faster than any trail shoe ever.
As the GORE-TEX is a bit stiffer than a regular upper it probably will feel that it is a little bit "noiser" but it is not something now that I really notice that much. Besides if you have run in a "noisy" shoe like say an Alphafly this is less!
@ I would say so yes. Having very long but narrow feet I have to “mould” all my shoes to a certain extent. These no exception. As you might expect GORE-TEX is a bit stiffer than a regular upper so may take a few runs to dial in the fit.
Great review! I was thinking buying either these or adidas free hiker 2 low gtx for walks/casual wear during fall/spring time of the year. Made my decision easier, thanks.
Thanks very much. I have run in and reviewed all 5 versions of this shoe now and has been a handy one to have - for both running and walking in wet conditions.
Thanks. How are you getting on with them? Do you think you will get this new v5 version as well. IMHO not a huge amount in it but, as mentioned I am liking the v5 just a bit more and at least now I have got a black or white GORE-TEX shoe of similar weight to choose from.
@@TimGrose I really like them. Whenever, anyone asks for a "waterproof" shoe I reccomend them. However, I rarely use the. I live in NYC. 99% of my running is on roads. I only use them when it's/wintery/wet. By the time I need to replace them the V6 or V7 will be out
@@eulogyforadream yeah know what you mean. I have worn mine nearly as often for road runs in heavy rain as much as actual trail running. In a way I think the new v5 feels even better on the road than the v4. I kind of think of them as an insurance policy for a run. I might do one where can take on a little bit of wet/mud without worrying about "thrashing" my "normal" shoes.
Thank you for the review. It helps me. I'm a big fan of the "last year's model" especially with shoes. I just purchased the 4th with a 30% discount. I looked for a bigger discount but with my leg (47 EU) it isn't easy to find a good offer and the best discount at the same time. :D
That’s a decent discount I would say. I think even Nike are still selling the Nike By You version of the 4 but for the same higher price as before so only really an option if love them and want one at any price. Think you will like the 5 if like the 4 though. Not radically different.
I have the same white ones, today we had torrential rain with flooding. Wore them out for a pleasant walk in the downpour and puddles and feet stayed totally dry as did my body in a nice Goretex jacket. Nice and comfy for casual wear.
Ah good. Hope you will find them to your liking. I will be interested in finding out which version you prefer. I think either do the job well and to me are fairly similar.
@@TimGrose So I picked a pair of the all black ones from Nike today, really digging the more minimalistic look over the 4 gtx especially the smaller gore-tex print on the side of the shoe , the upper waterproof sock seems to be a bit different better laces on the 4s I think but overall I prefer later
@@djwattsuk Good to hear. Guess there is also the factor that new shoes will generally always feel a bit better especially if your old ones are "battered".
Most of my videos are like newspapers - here today, "gone" tomorrow. I remember that "most popular" v4 also started very very slowly 2 years ago but somehow seemed to gain a solid number of views every day ever since. Often it was my most watched video in a day especially in the "gaps" between new videos. Mind you, the average watch times do get shorter and shorter the more "popular" a video gets. I can only think GORE-TEX is a very popular search word coupled with these shoes having a good level of interest and not necessarily for actual running. Such a handy shoe though to have - also ideal for walking in wet weather.
@@TimGrose Yeah, it' s funny to watch sometimes, isn' t it? I had this Vaporfly durability video that 'blew up' for a few days and went to over 2500 views(huge for me) and has now slowed down a lot. Just the UA-cam Algorithm doing it' s thing I guess, where it put the video on the Starting page for some people.
@@robin29991 could be a topic in its own right but I have a feeling not many shoes like a Superblast or a Neo Vista or a Hyperion Max are sold for a mix of uses like these Pegs would be. Besides at least you can buy these full stop and in my size. Have seen a few other videos on these GORE-TEX ones but not many as you say. I also don't recall many others actually testing them in water. I was chatting to a lady before filming who wanted a shoe like this for walking her dog. Not going to be much good in a plated niche "super" shoe supposedly for everyday runners.
That is a good deal ! The black ones weren't available when I got these few weeks ago but I got the 3 and 4 in black so thought be good for a change anyway.
There is a noticeable "thread"/line on the inside of the heel on Trail 5, where the gaiter stops, that worries me a bit when I try these on at home. It kind of digs into the back of my feet. Do you notice them while running and after some time?
I did a very hilly and rather wet 10 miles in them on Sunday and was fine although know what you mean. What I have found is the gaiter is quite "short" and tends to get "crumpled". As such I try to make sure that I stretch it out when putting the shoes on so it does not aggravate anything. Ideally I preferred the longer gaiter in the v4 as if you are going to have one seems better for it essentially to be covering more of you!
Always got a hole where the toe is after 3-4 months of running on my GTX 3 and 4. I love them, but thats a problem for me.Is this the same material / thickness than the 3/4? Any chance it can last longer? :)
Not heard of that before. Roughly how many miles did you in that time - well assuming you are a runner? Suspect the actual GORE-TEX upper will be largely similar in that respect. The 5 does however have more of a toe bumper than the 4 so that might help where the toes are.
Have to admit was a bit annoyed when I could not get a black pair of these but then thought white ones would make a nice change and certainly in the summer think look good. Guess would blend in well in the snow as well. At least with the GORE-TEX upper they are a lot easy to clean than most shoes.
Yeah for sure they will need more cleaning than say all black ones but at least GORE-TEX is very easy to get the worst off quickly. My white ones here aren't as white as they were but in a way I prefer a slightly used look in my running shoes anyway.
I don't both with GTX version of running shoes anymore. here in Taipei, when it's wet...it's also very humid...so your feet are going to get wet no matter what (from outside moisture or sweat)...so I prioritize drainage above all also, GTX uppers don't do that well. I'm a big fan of Matryx upper material for drainage though.I have found memories of the Peg 36 GTX, Peg Trail 1 & 2, skipped the 3 and had the 4 but found it too tight along the knuckles of the foot (it actually caused some bunions for me). I also never liked the Peg Trail as a road to trail shoe, I think there are some better options out there for that. My wife, however, loves the Peg Trail GTX for hiking...and she has the all white Peg Trial GTX 4...so I think this one will be in her future this fall.
Yeah I can see that an environment where it is always hot rather than the odd nice day (like when I filmed this) we get in the UK then a GORE-TEX shoe may have less appeal. I also think it comes down to use case. Most of my "daily" runs would be say for an hour and I like GTX shoes to hopefully keep me largely dry for most of it and also give me the freedom to go on routes that might otherwise give me "soggy feet" after the first puddle in non GTX shoes. I also have used previous versions of this shoe for road runs in heavy rain and has worked well there. Eventually your legs and socks get soaked but feel the GORE-TEX keeps most out. Think they are also great for walking in "all conditions" especially when you can pick a line to hopefully avoid the deepest watery sections. So far this one feels the best road to trail of the 5 versions so far. The 4th one was markedly better than the previous three (which were more obvious pure trail shoes) and I think the React X has helped in that regard.
@@TimGrose I liked GTX in snow. It did a good job of keeping snow and moisture from your warm feet out of the shoe. Also drainage and breathability don’t matter in those conditions. Also for casual shoe…. Yes, agree fully.
@@SagasuRunning My white ones should be good in the snow! Also think the white has some visibility advantage. I was out tonight in fading light and easier to see my feet :)
Would the gtx 5's be any good for long walks as well (think 20k steps a day)? Need some waterproof shoes for a trip next month and dont want to kill my feet on day 1...
Should be good yes. I've already done about a 10K walk in these ones and mainly on the road when it was a bit wet and wanted to avoid getting wet feet and worked well. Think would be even better if was some trail but feel these are very good as a road/trail hybrid and walking you can pick your way more carefully through any rough patches than you might do when running.
I’m a wide footed girl, tried the non gtx ones in the shop today and they feel heavenly compared to my other trail shoes *laughing at myself for getting new balance trail shoes. I normally wear structure 25s and they are like heavens match for me. I was wondering if you could tell me what the tongue and the upper feels like compared to the non gtx? Are they a lot thinner or are they also kinda padded and comfy?
@@神崎アオイ-o4o tongue of the GORE-TEX one is quite nice - moderately padded and think same fairly soft material as the gaiter. I don’t have the standard version so can’t be sure how they compare. Interesting that you found that one OK for your wide feet. I am complete opposite and perhaps shows these work well for various foot widths.
@@TimGrose the arch support and the padded tongue and the heel wrap and the wide feet fit are very very good for me . Having them walkable on different surfaces is very good because we walk everywhere here in Hong Kong
@@神崎アオイ-o4o good that they are working for you. Interesting you say they have a wide fit feel. Seen other comments that are are narrow. For me with narrow but long feet I can adapt the fit well enough by pulling in the laces. As such I think should be OK for a reasonable variety of food widths.
No experience of the Salomon ones but if you mean www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/product/xt-6-gore-tex-lg9333.html then they are way more expensive and way heavier. Not a good start.
Does it have the same shity outsole as the 4 generation? I had 2 nike 4 gore tex and they were terrible in terms of durability.... -40% of the outsole after 2 weeks. You can died on them in the wet conditions.... But it was really comfy on a road...
@@Pavlo-l6d personally the outsole on my v4 has held up fine although have to admit only got 150 miles on them so far largely as I am more of a road runner but find these type of shoes very handy when fancy a change of scenery as it were. The lug pattern on the v5 is a bit different but still very much in a road to trail configuration with the lugs not being too deep so for me personally on light, if sometimes wet, trails and road has been fine. However neither are Vibram like say on the Ultrafly or Zegama 2 so if you wanted the best outsole for the most demanding trails then maybe these Pegs aren’t the best bet. Equally though I don’t think they are designed with that in mind.
@@TimGrose Thanks! Anyway, the fact that I've seen -40% (+-) for 2 weeks is insane for me..... I had never seen smth similar before in this price range... I've been hiking for 12 years and even shoes that were made only for forests never have such a small resource... I tested two pairs v4 from Nike - the same issue... For example, I've used several models from Saucony on a distance of more than 800 miles and even then it was only 30-40% less on the outsole... But after 2 weeks... Just no way.I'll be glad if you can advise something similar to the v4 model but with better outsole! Thanks!)
I find them more of a trainer than a racer as not super light but of course you could race in anything. Kind of depends what you look for in trail racing shoes, how far the race is and the terrain.
Well I did have a few goes :) I did speak with a woman before starting filming and she said a lot of people have fallen over in it as it is very slippery so warned me to be careful. Guess that is tick for the traction or maybe more my caution LOL.
Bought the 5 and returned it for another pair of the 4. I found the 5 to have to much heel slip , didnt feel it locked my foot as well as the 4 and felt it was a tad more narrow. Also found the react x foam not to be as nice as the 4's. I do like the esthetic of the 5's but i feel it was a miss in fit.
Ah interesting. I have rather narrow feet so pretty much impossible for me to get heel slip in any shoe as have to pull in the laces quite a lot. I ended up cutting the laces on my v4 pair as too much slack. Probably could do again with the v5 but at least can double knot them easily. I will have to wear my v4 again to remind me of the relative softness. I have done about 50 miles now in the v5 and certainly can’t describe them as overly soft and now perhaps the React X in these doesn’t feel quite the same as the regular Peg 41 but the more rugged trail outsole always firms them up anyway. That all said are doing a job of keeping my feet largely dry especially now after a load of rain in the UK.
@TimGrose it may be due to the heel cup being slightly shorter in the 5's and them changing out the material. I did appreciate the thicker tounge in the 5s, but they took the same material and moved it to the heel cup, which I found a tad slippery and the bumper didn't grip my heel the same when I did a side by side comparison. I'm glad the 5s are holding out the water. I think that's the only downfall of the 4s.
@@mickyward3716 I think I prefer the taller gaiter in the v4. The v5 one I find I have to sort of stretch out each time I put on the shoe. I think at the end of the day if you like a particular shoe makes total sense to get it again. Whatever the differences are between the v4 and v5 it all seems quite subtle to me. Mostly, as you imply, I wear these GORE-TEX shoes on runs where I want to go off road (or very very wet road runs) and can feel confident in largely not getting drenched feet after the first puddle. I think a lot of the "problem" with GORE-TEX shoes is that you get the top of your socks wet then water will seep in that way although to me never seems as bad as in conventional uppers.
Hey man I have a couple questions I’d really appreciate if you can help me out. There’s some kind of rubber ring that runs around the back of the back of the shoe that feels a little bit strange, is that an intentional feature with some kind of purpose? I also bought these for walks in Thailand where i am going next month and it will be hot, my feet won’t be sweating badly in these will they? Thank you
Do you mean the gaiter over and above the heel? If so it is supposed to help keep out mud and dust and little rocks/pebbles and stuff. I found it was quite fiddly to get that "straight" and without any folding. When I did was OK for me. I've been to Thailand several times it was always hot and humid. That said I have not found these Pegasus Trail GORE-TEX shoes too bad in warmer weather. Partly it depends what type of socks you use.
@@TimGrose just below where the sock part of the shoe is on the entrance for your foot. There’s a rubber strip that runs around the back of the shoe , I feel it at the back of my foot and it feels a little bit uncomfortable
@@TimGrosesee where the silver circle is at the back, above that the rubber strip around the opening of the shoe, I can feel it at the back of my heel when wearing the shoe (not the bottom of heel)
@@jimmymichaels9792 ah do you mean the "heel collar" which here is a soft padded band to hold your foot in place with "hopefully" some comfort. It does seem bigger than in this shoe than some others however and I have noticed with a sore left Achilles myself at the moment that such bands can rub and so cause them to sort of do the opposite to what they are meant to do at least on the comfort part. The Pegasus 41 GORE-TEX I have just put out a review video on is not nearly as padded here.
@@TimGrose yes that’s correct. I can see exactly what you mean about the rubbing, and that’s exactly what I want to avoid especially in Thailand, they also seem like they’re not very breathable after I tried them in the gym today I have opted to return the shoes and purchased the Pegasus trail 4 (non goretex) which my friend has told me good things about. I couldn’t find a video of yours that covered it, only the goretex version. Thanks for your help
Hi Tim great review as always thank you. These look ok but can’t see them beating my much loved Merrell agility peak 5’s any time soon. Tim I will soon be launching my own UA-cam channel which I’m hoping will help runners of a certain age shall we say 😂 ( im 63) and i wondered if you might be interested in allowing me to interview you at some point for a future episode? I live near Southampton so not a million miles away and I’d be willing to travel to you. Many thanks. Ian Lowe
No problem on the interview. Think have done 3 over the years and all have been good fun. I am 57 and not too far off 58 now and it's certainly an age when any setbacks (like I have now with an Achilles injury) just to seem to later longer to fully recover from. Let me know when you are up and running as it were. Am often down your sort of way. As for the shoes, I am a bit of a "now and again" trail runner and even so would rarely run entirely off road so these more "hybrid" Pegs make a good option for that sort of thing. Are those Merrell ones more dedicated trail shoes?
I have the Peg 3 Trail GTX and the Peg 4 Trail GTX and also bought 2 pairs of pink Peg 4 Trail GTX ( for my wife and my daughter ), I really don't need version 5 now as I prefer the Salomon Thundercross GTX for my winter running in snow and snow slush and don't use those Pegs anymore for running.
Ah interesting. Am not familiar with those Salomon ones. What's the key difference for you? The lugs on the Pegs aren't too aggressive which I think is good and bad - good that it makes for a better road/trail hybrid shoe but maybe not so ideal for the toughest of off road conditions.
@@TimGrose The Salomon is more comfortable and fits me better. All my Nike shoes are US 13 with the exception of the Peg 4 Trail; they run a little short and so I had to buy US 14 ( your size ). While the normal/non-goretex version fits me well in length and width the GTX does not fit very well, I have some folding at the front and the react midsole is not as pleasant as the Salomon midsole and much more unpleasant compared to my Zegama and Ultrafly. So the Pegs are my perfect "walking the dog" shoe.
@@hawaiifranke66 ah thanks. Might have to check those out. I kind of feel am “missing” a fast off road shoe. Was hoping was going to be the Ultrafly but feel I can be more nimble in my Pegs ! Very heavy for us the Ultrafly and I felt the Zegama was possibly worse.
@@TimGrose If I may recommend a "fast" trail shoe it would be the NB Venym, I have a pair in my normal EU size 47,5 - I can use them(they are a bit short) but I now ordered a pair in EU 49 just to have a pair to use with thicker socks and to just check how they fit. But be warned, they are VERY soft, and I mean REALLY SOFT! I don't know if you also run in Hoka shoes. Last week the Tecton X3 was released and sold out within a day. I saw a pair in US 13 left on the Hoka site in the afternoon, went for a run, showered, ate diner and wanted to order it with my permanent Hoka discount ... sadly it was gone and now I have to wait until it will be available again.
It seems the insole is glued down, at least a bit, so I could not seem to just lift them out easily like you normally can. Pretty sure if you wanted to remove it and swop it for another one then you can but I was a bit reluctant to pull too hard as wasn't intending to use another insole.
I have the Pegasus Gore Tex Trail 4, and it is bouncier than all my other Pegasus road shoes. For some reason, Nike puts a bouncier foam in their trail Pegasus shoes than the road shoes. 🤷♂️
@@TimGrose I'm not sure, but I wish the road shoe Pegasus foam would feel like the trail shoe Pegasus. I guess that's what Zoom X is for in the Pegasus Plus.
@@ABucc Must say am liking the Pegasus 41 a lot although that's partly been struggling with an Achilles injury last 3 months so used it for a lot of walk/runs and I think the relatively "firmer" feel is better for me in the Peg 41. I also can take out the standard insoles and use some ones with more arch support than my physio recommended to me although they do make the shoes quite heavy. I was struck with this Trail 5 GORE-TEX that it had more "in built" arch support and, as such, felt I was engaging the ReactX to the rear "closer" which sort of felt like it was softer anyway. That all said don't think there is much in it and having used the Trail 5 a bit more now I think the more rugged outsole sort of cancels out the apparent slightly softer feel anyway. That's good for the road but off road I probably don't want something too soft as then I feel it seem a little unstable especially when the ground is a bit rough.
Thanks for the review! Im considering buying this one and was wondering about its water resistance and whether it gets dirty easily with the white color.
I did a rather wet and muddy hour mainly off road run in them yesterday and my feet were largely dry save for a combination of a bit of sweat on my socks and a little dampness when my socks got a few splashes. Certainly way way better than would have been in standard shoes. Obviously white shoes are going to get very dirty very quickly if use these for their intended purpose of "trail" running in wet conditions so it largely depends how much effort you want to do cleaning them each time afterwards. I think it will be difficult to keep them as white as in my video here as then had been dry and warm. That said I tend to like my running shoes to not look brand new every time I use them and certainly the GORE-TEX here throughout makes it a lot easier just to wash the worst of the mud & grime. In hindsight black shoes might have been better but they did not have any on sale when I got these and the v3 and v4 I got of these were both black so a change seemed a good idea.
@@TimGrose Very helpful comment ! (and the video) i agree with liking my shoes not looking brand new, im def not going to clean them every time after running in rain, just don't want them to look outrageously tainted haha. Don't think I will run into as deep into water as you did in the video, so I guess no need to worry about the water getting into my shoes, which is the problem I have with my current regular nike pegasus as it does drizzle a lot in my city. And I read some comments about feeling slippery when walking indoors, after the sole gets wet in an outdoor run, no sure if you came across that. Anyways after hearing what you say I think I will get a pair of pegasus trail gtx, just need to decide between v4 and v5, also waiting to see some new colors before making the decision. Big thanks
@@tianshutan2482 not really on slippery but I think just need to be careful in any shoes if it is really slippery underfoot. Not much in v4 or v5. Might depend on price and which colour you like best.
@@TimGrose Hi Tim it's me again, a week later I find myself with a new pair of Boston 12 and liking it lol! I am aware how much you dislike it after watching your reviews on Adidas shoes. I haven't had any running shoes from this brand, always been a Nikie fan, but I needed new shoes for my half-marathon and daily training, preferably something durable, and shoes like vaporfly are like, designed specifically for marathon racing, and my speed does not require such a premium model. I have Pegasus 36-39 and Zoomfly 3, but the recent nike training shoes are not too attractive to me. Still would like to buy a trail v4 or v5 for the winter, just waiting to see if they introduce more color for v5. It rains here today and I ran 10k in Boston 12, since it's very wet on the road I ran in a rather easy pace, but I still finished with ~ 5:00/km speed, whereas I estimate in my worn out old shoes it would be 5:30-40/km. The continental rubber sole feels quite steady on wet ground. I liked the natural push it produces when I accelerate, at the same time it's not so aggressive like carbon plate shoes. You mentioned it being too heavy and wide for you, for my UK4 size it weighs only around 200g. the upper material feels flimsy tho. ( Just a bit of update, have a nice day!)
@@tianshutan2482 If my Boston 12 were only 200g sure I would like them more! I don't truly hate them but just not a shoe I feel I want to wear very often. Any new shoe ought to feel nicer than a worn out one as well! I have just ordered the new Nike Pegasus 41 GORE-TEX. If you are wanting a GORE-TEX shoe for wet roads then maybe this could be a better bet than the trail version in this video. I will be sure to test that!
Kind of depends on your "aim"! I think if most of the water went straight down your legs then you would get wet feet but if most landed up on the upper or at least the laces should be a lot drier.
I've had the trail 3 and 4 GORE-TEX and mainly used them for walking. The 4's have been used for some running and a 10k trail race. The 3s were absolute tanks and got over 1000km of walking in them. The toe bumper on this new one has more resemblance to the 3s. Not sure I'm brave enough for the white though 😂 I'll stick to the darker colourways!
Yeah I rewatched my own Trail 4 GORE-TEX video and then remembered the 4 is a good bit "lighter" than the 3 which agree was sturdy! I probably would have got a black one for the 5 but no sign of when it was coming to the UK so took a punt with this white one.
What on earth are Nike doing with the colours that are available on their site? Bright pink for men's and the grey and black only in womens? Despite that ALL the photographs on the MENS shoe are of MEN wearing the black and grey that's only available in womens?? Make it make sense.
I did notice on the US Nike site that there were a lot more colours on offer - 8 for men as I recall. When I bought these white ones it was actually the only one available in my size on Nike UK. I sometimes like a bit of pink but, at the time, the pink ones had all sold out anyway but I see have now been restocked. I probably would have got the all black ones again which I see are now available. Anyway I do think these white ones at least offer me something different to the black v4 and v3 already got although will need a lot more cleaning at the first sign of mud again which won't be long for sure. What colour are you wanting to get?
@@TimGrose Wow I didn't realise there were 8 colours on the US site! Just had a look. That's a good sign that we may get more soon I guess. I noticed it was the same set of photos on the US site, so that explains that one. I'm going to hold out for the black and grey I think they look great, hopefully they release them in mens soon. I like the black ones but they're a bit too plain for me. Thanks for the reply and for the video!
@@bumbelb263 ah well spotted. That is the one in a lot of the product details images. Quite like it and guess you would blend in well if do a lot on grass.
I have long narrow feet but still have had to pull in the laces quite a lot. I don’t really find these much different for width than previous versions or indeed other Nike Pegasus running shoes. I can see however that if you have rather wide feet than might be an issue.
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Thanks! Feel these GORE-TEX shoe videos are best done in the water as it were.
@TimGrose Thanks for the review! I wonder how breathable the GTX is for everyday use and running? Also how good or bad is it for road running & wet surfaces? How does this model compare to the non GTX version since the construction is slightly different. I know it’s personal preference, though if you can only choose one which would be the best option? I guess it really depends on the use case. 👟
I tend to reach for GORE-TEX shoes in conditions where am more worried about keeping my feet dry as long as possible which tend to be less "warm" days and now in the UK we won't be seeing too many of them until well into each year. That said when I reviewed these it was still somewhat warmer and did not have any particular breathability concerns. Although this is really a trail shoe, I have found it also performs well enough on the road and in wet weather I find I am always being a bit more careful in any shoe than on dry days. This one gives me confidence to give through puddles much more so than in non GORE-TEX shoes. If your case use is just (or at least mainly) roads and often wet ones, then also worth considering the Pegasus 41 GORE-TEX which has a Storm Tread outsole which found grips well on the road but has more of a "smooth" surface than the lugged pattern on the trail one. I think this Trail one is better as a road-trail hybrid and is a bit lighter than the Peg 41. I don't have the non GORE-TEX trail one but have do the regular Peg 41 as well but in Volt so great for summer dry days - less so now! In the UK at least I tend to mostly use road shoes in the summer if I think any off road bits will be fairly dry. In the winter here I would reach for a GORE-TEX every time as then I feel I can anywhere with much more confidence.
Just purchased the Trail 4 GTX for $60. Thanks for the review comparison.🤗
Good deal there for sure. Don’t think there is much to choose between v4 and the new v5.
where did you get it 97 dollars on the nike app
Prefer the look of the 4 but I am interested in picking this up in a black at some point. Thanks for the excellent review👍
@@xfoolsgoldx thanks! I got the black one in the Pegasus 41 GORE-TEX which also have done a video on so worth considering that too.
Appreciate the comparison btwn 4 & 5!
Thanks! Are you looking to get the 5?
Probably. Tried some on the other day. They are fitting 0.5-1 size smaller from the non gtx. Are you finding that?
Tbh - I loved the discontinued Nike Miler 2’s - one of the best ever all-rounder. And it was great in the shield gtx. I’m struggling to find a replacement. Even the Pegasus 40 just isn’t as good. That’s why I’m hesitating with these
@@dougbanff I only have the GTX ones but all my Nike shoes are the same size - UK 13/US 14 so I very much doubt I personally would need a different size in the non GTX onea. Do you need to go longer for more actual length and/or width?
@@dougbanff Also worth considering the Pegasus 41 GORE-TEX if you want a GTX road shoe. I have a video on that one as well.
Cracking review as always Tim. Superb colour choice mate. 👌I agree with it being a great option for casual / walking use. I personally see a lot of people walking both in town and on the trails in the peg gore tex around the Guildford area. 😎🤘
Certainly think they look good in the summer and when the mud returns (won't be long will it) I can really highlight any mud on heels. At least I will have some sort of trail shoe to use for runs with you.
I love the bold colour choices for the winter weather 😂
It's funny because this version and the last one I both reviewed in nice warm summer weather with little or no mud around. That said, you still can get wet at any time (especially if volunteer for it!) and I thought white was indeed a "bold" choice this time.
My peg trail 4 gtx is becoming my trail shoe of all time: 1. It has a cushion very few trail shoe has, and a superb upper. 2. It is actually responsive and good for tempo and treshold on gravel and trail. 3. The upper dries faster than any trail shoe ever.
And I think this v5 might actually be a little better. At least now I can choose between a white or black GTX shoe.
Thanks for the review. Can you advise if the goretex upper makes a funny noise when walking / running? This is putting me off. Thanks
As the GORE-TEX is a bit stiffer than a regular upper it probably will feel that it is a little bit "noiser" but it is not something now that I really notice that much. Besides if you have run in a "noisy" shoe like say an Alphafly this is less!
@@TimGrosedoes the material give a bit and mold to your foot or not? Thank you
@ I would say so yes. Having very long but narrow feet I have to “mould” all my shoes to a certain extent. These no exception. As you might expect GORE-TEX is a bit stiffer than a regular upper so may take a few runs to dial in the fit.
@ appreciated. Thank you
Great review! I was thinking buying either these or adidas free hiker 2 low gtx for walks/casual wear during fall/spring time of the year. Made my decision easier, thanks.
@@simplicity5101 good thanks. Certainly think the Pegs are good for both those use cases.
You are really informative and your subject knowledge is great sir👍🏼
Thanks very much. I have run in and reviewed all 5 versions of this shoe now and has been a handy one to have - for both running and walking in wet conditions.
Nice content as always. I got the V4 because of your previous video.
Thanks. How are you getting on with them? Do you think you will get this new v5 version as well. IMHO not a huge amount in it but, as mentioned I am liking the v5 just a bit more and at least now I have got a black or white GORE-TEX shoe of similar weight to choose from.
@@TimGrose I really like them. Whenever, anyone asks for a "waterproof" shoe I reccomend them. However, I rarely use the. I live in NYC. 99% of my running is on roads. I only use them when it's/wintery/wet. By the time I need to replace them the V6 or V7 will be out
@@eulogyforadream yeah know what you mean. I have worn mine nearly as often for road runs in heavy rain as much as actual trail running. In a way I think the new v5 feels even better on the road than the v4. I kind of think of them as an insurance policy for a run. I might do one where can take on a little bit of wet/mud without worrying about "thrashing" my "normal" shoes.
Great review👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Hi! Good video. Are you using the same size in the 4s and 5s? Thank you
@@ChrisRoooock thanks and yes same size and indeed my normal Nike size UK 13/US 14
@@TimGroseHow tall are you, why are you using such a high number?
@@noblemannn 1.95m or 6’5 so hence my large feet !
@@TimGrose I'm also 1.91 meters and I ordered US 11. I hope it fits.
@@noblemannn if that is your normal Nike size it should do
Just wanted to say hi! I recently got PT4GTX, can't wait for the cool part of the year. :D
Thanks for dropping by. Version 4 is certainly very similar so you shouldn’t go wrong there.
Thank you for the review. It helps me. I'm a big fan of the "last year's model" especially with shoes. I just purchased the 4th with a 30% discount. I looked for a bigger discount but with my leg (47 EU) it isn't easy to find a good offer and the best discount at the same time. :D
That’s a decent discount I would say. I think even Nike are still selling the Nike By You version of the 4 but for the same higher price as before so only really an option if love them and want one at any price. Think you will like the 5 if like the 4 though. Not radically different.
I have the same white ones, today we had torrential rain with flooding. Wore them out for a pleasant walk in the downpour and puddles and feet stayed totally dry as did my body in a nice Goretex jacket. Nice and comfy for casual wear.
Good to hear - well staying dry and not necessarily the weather!
My 4’s are battered so gonna grab the 5’s tomorrow, thanks for the video
Ah good. Hope you will find them to your liking. I will be interested in finding out which version you prefer. I think either do the job well and to me are fairly similar.
@@TimGrose So I picked a pair of the all black ones from Nike today, really digging the more minimalistic look over the 4 gtx especially the smaller gore-tex print on the side of the shoe , the upper waterproof sock seems to be a bit different better laces on the 4s I think but overall I prefer later
@@djwattsuk Good to hear. Guess there is also the factor that new shoes will generally always feel a bit better especially if your old ones are "battered".
Commenting before this goes viral again and becomes your most popular video ever:)
Most of my videos are like newspapers - here today, "gone" tomorrow. I remember that "most popular" v4 also started very very slowly 2 years ago but somehow seemed to gain a solid number of views every day ever since. Often it was my most watched video in a day especially in the "gaps" between new videos. Mind you, the average watch times do get shorter and shorter the more "popular" a video gets. I can only think GORE-TEX is a very popular search word coupled with these shoes having a good level of interest and not necessarily for actual running. Such a handy shoe though to have - also ideal for walking in wet weather.
@@TimGrose Yeah, it' s funny to watch sometimes, isn' t it? I had this Vaporfly durability video that 'blew up' for a few days and went to over 2500 views(huge for me) and has now slowed down a lot. Just the UA-cam Algorithm doing it' s thing I guess, where it put the video on the Starting page for some people.
@@TimGrose Also yes, I think this is actually a very popular shoe that people search for but hardly any Shoetuber bothers making a video about it?
@@robin29991 could be a topic in its own right but I have a feeling not many shoes like a Superblast or a Neo Vista or a Hyperion Max are sold for a mix of uses like these Pegs would be. Besides at least you can buy these full stop and in my size. Have seen a few other videos on these GORE-TEX ones but not many as you say. I also don't recall many others actually testing them in water. I was chatting to a lady before filming who wanted a shoe like this for walking her dog. Not going to be much good in a plated niche "super" shoe supposedly for everyday runners.
@@robin29991 past 10K now. Seems my only type of video that isn’t here today, gone tomorrow !
Just ordered the V5's in black from Frasers on pre order for £125 delivered. Thanks for the review😊
That is a good deal ! The black ones weren't available when I got these few weeks ago but I got the 3 and 4 in black so thought be good for a change anyway.
@@David-wc7qv how are you finding them
There is a noticeable "thread"/line on the inside of the heel on Trail 5, where the gaiter stops, that worries me a bit when I try these on at home. It kind of digs into the back of my feet. Do you notice them while running and after some time?
I did a very hilly and rather wet 10 miles in them on Sunday and was fine although know what you mean. What I have found is the gaiter is quite "short" and tends to get "crumpled". As such I try to make sure that I stretch it out when putting the shoes on so it does not aggravate anything. Ideally I preferred the longer gaiter in the v4 as if you are going to have one seems better for it essentially to be covering more of you!
@@TimGrose thanks for answering!
Always got a hole where the toe is after 3-4 months of running on my GTX 3 and 4. I love them, but thats a problem for me.Is this the same material / thickness than the 3/4? Any chance it can last longer? :)
Not heard of that before. Roughly how many miles did you in that time - well assuming you are a runner? Suspect the actual GORE-TEX upper will be largely similar in that respect. The 5 does however have more of a toe bumper than the 4 so that might help where the toes are.
@@TimGrosemaybe I should take more care of my toe nails, lol 😂. Thank you for your feedback, greetings from Germany
Not sure why they do trail shoes in white. Look great until the first run!
Have to admit was a bit annoyed when I could not get a black pair of these but then thought white ones would make a nice change and certainly in the summer think look good. Guess would blend in well in the snow as well. At least with the GORE-TEX upper they are a lot easy to clean than most shoes.
I've got one. Elastic bands around ankle didn't fit me or am I doing something wrong? Bands around ankles are wobbles.
Do you mean the gaiter over and above the heel? I found it was quite fiddly to get that "straight" and without any folding. When I did was OK for me.
Are white one gonna get dirty after some use ?
Yeah for sure they will need more cleaning than say all black ones but at least GORE-TEX is very easy to get the worst off quickly. My white ones here aren't as white as they were but in a way I prefer a slightly used look in my running shoes anyway.
I don't both with GTX version of running shoes anymore. here in Taipei, when it's wet...it's also very humid...so your feet are going to get wet no matter what (from outside moisture or sweat)...so I prioritize drainage above all also, GTX uppers don't do that well. I'm a big fan of Matryx upper material for drainage though.I have found memories of the Peg 36 GTX, Peg Trail 1 & 2, skipped the 3 and had the 4 but found it too tight along the knuckles of the foot (it actually caused some bunions for me). I also never liked the Peg Trail as a road to trail shoe, I think there are some better options out there for that.
My wife, however, loves the Peg Trail GTX for hiking...and she has the all white Peg Trial GTX 4...so I think this one will be in her future this fall.
Yeah I can see that an environment where it is always hot rather than the odd nice day (like when I filmed this) we get in the UK then a GORE-TEX shoe may have less appeal. I also think it comes down to use case. Most of my "daily" runs would be say for an hour and I like GTX shoes to hopefully keep me largely dry for most of it and also give me the freedom to go on routes that might otherwise give me "soggy feet" after the first puddle in non GTX shoes. I also have used previous versions of this shoe for road runs in heavy rain and has worked well there. Eventually your legs and socks get soaked but feel the GORE-TEX keeps most out. Think they are also great for walking in "all conditions" especially when you can pick a line to hopefully avoid the deepest watery sections. So far this one feels the best road to trail of the 5 versions so far. The 4th one was markedly better than the previous three (which were more obvious pure trail shoes) and I think the React X has helped in that regard.
@@TimGrose I liked GTX in snow. It did a good job of keeping snow and moisture from your warm feet out of the shoe. Also drainage and breathability don’t matter in those conditions.
Also for casual shoe…. Yes, agree fully.
@@SagasuRunning My white ones should be good in the snow! Also think the white has some visibility advantage. I was out tonight in fading light and easier to see my feet :)
Would the gtx 5's be any good for long walks as well (think 20k steps a day)? Need some waterproof shoes for a trip next month and dont want to kill my feet on day 1...
Should be good yes. I've already done about a 10K walk in these ones and mainly on the road when it was a bit wet and wanted to avoid getting wet feet and worked well. Think would be even better if was some trail but feel these are very good as a road/trail hybrid and walking you can pick your way more carefully through any rough patches than you might do when running.
I’m a wide footed girl, tried the non gtx ones in the shop today and they feel heavenly compared to my other trail shoes *laughing at myself for getting new balance trail shoes. I normally wear structure 25s and they are like heavens match for me. I was wondering if you could tell me what the tongue and the upper feels like compared to the non gtx? Are they a lot thinner or are they also kinda padded and comfy?
@@神崎アオイ-o4o tongue of the GORE-TEX one is quite nice - moderately padded and think same fairly soft material as the gaiter. I don’t have the standard version so can’t be sure how they compare. Interesting that you found that one OK for your wide feet. I am complete opposite and perhaps shows these work well for various foot widths.
@@TimGrose the arch support and the padded tongue and the heel wrap and the wide feet fit are very very good for me . Having them walkable on different surfaces is very good because we walk everywhere here in Hong Kong
@@神崎アオイ-o4o good that they are working for you. Interesting you say they have a wide fit feel. Seen other comments that are are narrow. For me with narrow but long feet I can adapt the fit well enough by pulling in the laces. As such I think should be OK for a reasonable variety of food widths.
is sizing the same as previous version? thanks
@@astrofyzik1 It is for me yes and my normal Nike size as well.
which is better in your opinion salomon gtx xt6 or pegasus trail 5 gtx? ty
No experience of the Salomon ones but if you mean www.salomon.com/en-gb/shop-emea/product/xt-6-gore-tex-lg9333.html then they are way more expensive and way heavier. Not a good start.
Does it have the same shity outsole as the 4 generation? I had 2 nike 4 gore tex and they were terrible in terms of durability.... -40% of the outsole after 2 weeks. You can died on them in the wet conditions.... But it was really comfy on a road...
@@Pavlo-l6d personally the outsole on my v4 has held up fine although have to admit only got 150 miles on them so far largely as I am more of a road runner but find these type of shoes very handy when fancy a change of scenery as it were. The lug pattern on the v5 is a bit different but still very much in a road to trail configuration with the lugs not being too deep so for me personally on light, if sometimes wet, trails and road has been fine. However neither are Vibram like say on the Ultrafly or Zegama 2 so if you wanted the best outsole for the most demanding trails then maybe these Pegs aren’t the best bet. Equally though I don’t think they are designed with that in mind.
@@TimGrose Thanks! Anyway, the fact that I've seen -40% (+-) for 2 weeks is insane for me..... I had never seen smth similar before in this price range... I've been hiking for 12 years and even shoes that were made only for forests never have such a small resource... I tested two pairs v4 from Nike - the same issue... For example, I've used several models from Saucony on a distance of more than 800 miles and even then it was only 30-40% less on the outsole... But after 2 weeks... Just no way.I'll be glad if you can advise something similar to the v4 model but with better outsole! Thanks!)
Is this also good for a trail racing shoes let me know
I find them more of a trainer than a racer as not super light but of course you could race in anything. Kind of depends what you look for in trail racing shoes, how far the race is and the terrain.
well done keeping a straight face during that intro
Well I did have a few goes :) I did speak with a woman before starting filming and she said a lot of people have fallen over in it as it is very slippery so warned me to be careful. Guess that is tick for the traction or maybe more my caution LOL.
Bought the 5 and returned it for another pair of the 4. I found the 5 to have to much heel slip , didnt feel it locked my foot as well as the 4 and felt it was a tad more narrow. Also found the react x foam not to be as nice as the 4's. I do like the esthetic of the 5's but i feel it was a miss in fit.
Ah interesting. I have rather narrow feet so pretty much impossible for me to get heel slip in any shoe as have to pull in the laces quite a lot. I ended up cutting the laces on my v4 pair as too much slack. Probably could do again with the v5 but at least can double knot them easily. I will have to wear my v4 again to remind me of the relative softness. I have done about 50 miles now in the v5 and certainly can’t describe them as overly soft and now perhaps the React X in these doesn’t feel quite the same as the regular Peg 41 but the more rugged trail outsole always firms them up anyway. That all said are doing a job of keeping my feet largely dry especially now after a load of rain in the UK.
@TimGrose it may be due to the heel cup being slightly shorter in the 5's and them changing out the material. I did appreciate the thicker tounge in the 5s, but they took the same material and moved it to the heel cup, which I found a tad slippery and the bumper didn't grip my heel the same when I did a side by side comparison. I'm glad the 5s are holding out the water. I think that's the only downfall of the 4s.
@@mickyward3716 I think I prefer the taller gaiter in the v4. The v5 one I find I have to sort of stretch out each time I put on the shoe. I think at the end of the day if you like a particular shoe makes total sense to get it again. Whatever the differences are between the v4 and v5 it all seems quite subtle to me. Mostly, as you imply, I wear these GORE-TEX shoes on runs where I want to go off road (or very very wet road runs) and can feel confident in largely not getting drenched feet after the first puddle. I think a lot of the "problem" with GORE-TEX shoes is that you get the top of your socks wet then water will seep in that way although to me never seems as bad as in conventional uppers.
Its got a similar profile to Adidas’ 1st gen NMD1 so I would say that its also a nice lifestyle shoe.
yeah I think these ones have always been popular for lifestyle
How do they compare to gtx 4 trail Pegasus?
Very similar but the React X feels very slightly softer.
Hey man I have a couple questions I’d really appreciate if you can help me out.
There’s some kind of rubber ring that runs around the back of the back of the shoe that feels a little bit strange, is that an intentional feature with some kind of purpose?
I also bought these for walks in Thailand where i am going next month and it will be hot, my feet won’t be sweating badly in these will they? Thank you
Do you mean the gaiter over and above the heel? If so it is supposed to help keep out mud and dust and little rocks/pebbles and stuff. I found it was quite fiddly to get that "straight" and without any folding. When I did was OK for me. I've been to Thailand several times it was always hot and humid. That said I have not found these Pegasus Trail GORE-TEX shoes too bad in warmer weather. Partly it depends what type of socks you use.
@@TimGrose just below where the sock part of the shoe is on the entrance for your foot. There’s a rubber strip that runs around the back of the shoe , I feel it at the back of my foot and it feels a little bit uncomfortable
@@TimGrosesee where the silver circle is at the back, above that the rubber strip around the opening of the shoe, I can feel it at the back of my heel when wearing the shoe (not the bottom of heel)
@@jimmymichaels9792 ah do you mean the "heel collar" which here is a soft padded band to hold your foot in place with "hopefully" some comfort. It does seem bigger than in this shoe than some others however and I have noticed with a sore left Achilles myself at the moment that such bands can rub and so cause them to sort of do the opposite to what they are meant to do at least on the comfort part. The Pegasus 41 GORE-TEX I have just put out a review video on is not nearly as padded here.
@@TimGrose yes that’s correct. I can see exactly what you mean about the rubbing, and that’s exactly what I want to avoid especially in Thailand, they also seem like they’re not very breathable after I tried them in the gym today
I have opted to return the shoes and purchased the Pegasus trail 4 (non goretex) which my friend has told me good things about. I couldn’t find a video of yours that covered it, only the goretex version.
Thanks for your help
Hi Tim great review as always thank you. These look ok but can’t see them beating my much loved Merrell agility peak 5’s any time soon.
Tim I will soon be launching my own UA-cam channel which I’m hoping will help runners of a certain age shall we say 😂 ( im 63) and i wondered if you might be interested in allowing me to interview you at some point for a future episode? I live near Southampton so not a million miles away and I’d be willing to travel to you. Many thanks. Ian Lowe
No problem on the interview. Think have done 3 over the years and all have been good fun. I am 57 and not too far off 58 now and it's certainly an age when any setbacks (like I have now with an Achilles injury) just to seem to later longer to fully recover from. Let me know when you are up and running as it were. Am often down your sort of way. As for the shoes, I am a bit of a "now and again" trail runner and even so would rarely run entirely off road so these more "hybrid" Pegs make a good option for that sort of thing. Are those Merrell ones more dedicated trail shoes?
I have the Peg 3 Trail GTX and the Peg 4 Trail GTX and also bought 2 pairs of pink Peg 4 Trail GTX ( for my wife and my daughter ), I really don't need version 5 now as I prefer the Salomon Thundercross GTX for my winter running in snow and snow slush and don't use those Pegs anymore for running.
Ah interesting. Am not familiar with those Salomon ones. What's the key difference for you? The lugs on the Pegs aren't too aggressive which I think is good and bad - good that it makes for a better road/trail hybrid shoe but maybe not so ideal for the toughest of off road conditions.
@@TimGrose The Salomon is more comfortable and fits me better. All my Nike shoes are US 13 with the exception of the Peg 4 Trail; they run a little short and so I had to buy US 14 ( your size ). While the normal/non-goretex version fits me well in length and width the GTX does not fit very well, I have some folding at the front and the react midsole is not as pleasant as the Salomon midsole and much more unpleasant compared to my Zegama and Ultrafly. So the Pegs are my perfect "walking the dog" shoe.
@@hawaiifranke66 ah thanks. Might have to check those out. I kind of feel am “missing” a fast off road shoe. Was hoping was going to be the Ultrafly but feel I can be more nimble in my Pegs ! Very heavy for us the Ultrafly and I felt the Zegama was possibly worse.
@@TimGrose If I may recommend a "fast" trail shoe it would be the NB Venym, I have a pair in my normal EU size 47,5 - I can use them(they are a bit short) but I now ordered a pair in EU 49 just to have a pair to use with thicker socks and to just check how they fit. But be warned, they are VERY soft, and I mean REALLY SOFT!
I don't know if you also run in Hoka shoes. Last week the Tecton X3 was released and sold out within a day. I saw a pair in US 13 left on the Hoka site in the afternoon, went for a run, showered, ate diner and wanted to order it with my permanent Hoka discount ... sadly it was gone and now I have to wait until it will be available again.
you cannot remove the insole in these ??? not possible to use orthotics ?
It seems the insole is glued down, at least a bit, so I could not seem to just lift them out easily like you normally can. Pretty sure if you wanted to remove it and swop it for another one then you can but I was a bit reluctant to pull too hard as wasn't intending to use another insole.
@@TimGrose thanks for the fast answer ! and is the fit similar to v4 ?
@@francoisgdt8087 yes similar
I have the Pegasus Gore Tex Trail 4, and it is bouncier than all my other Pegasus road shoes. For some reason, Nike puts a bouncier foam in their trail Pegasus shoes than the road shoes. 🤷♂️
I was thinking about this. Is it perhaps because the trail versions don't have Air Zoom units that say the regular Peg 41 does?
@@TimGrose I'm not sure, but I wish the road shoe Pegasus foam would feel like the trail shoe Pegasus. I guess that's what Zoom X is for in the Pegasus Plus.
@@ABucc Must say am liking the Pegasus 41 a lot although that's partly been struggling with an Achilles injury last 3 months so used it for a lot of walk/runs and I think the relatively "firmer" feel is better for me in the Peg 41. I also can take out the standard insoles and use some ones with more arch support than my physio recommended to me although they do make the shoes quite heavy. I was struck with this Trail 5 GORE-TEX that it had more "in built" arch support and, as such, felt I was engaging the ReactX to the rear "closer" which sort of felt like it was softer anyway. That all said don't think there is much in it and having used the Trail 5 a bit more now I think the more rugged outsole sort of cancels out the apparent slightly softer feel anyway. That's good for the road but off road I probably don't want something too soft as then I feel it seem a little unstable especially when the ground is a bit rough.
Thanks for the review! Im considering buying this one and was wondering about its water resistance and whether it gets dirty easily with the white color.
I did a rather wet and muddy hour mainly off road run in them yesterday and my feet were largely dry save for a combination of a bit of sweat on my socks and a little dampness when my socks got a few splashes. Certainly way way better than would have been in standard shoes. Obviously white shoes are going to get very dirty very quickly if use these for their intended purpose of "trail" running in wet conditions so it largely depends how much effort you want to do cleaning them each time afterwards. I think it will be difficult to keep them as white as in my video here as then had been dry and warm. That said I tend to like my running shoes to not look brand new every time I use them and certainly the GORE-TEX here throughout makes it a lot easier just to wash the worst of the mud & grime. In hindsight black shoes might have been better but they did not have any on sale when I got these and the v3 and v4 I got of these were both black so a change seemed a good idea.
@@TimGrose Very helpful comment ! (and the video) i agree with liking my shoes not looking brand new, im def not going to clean them every time after running in rain, just don't want them to look outrageously tainted haha. Don't think I will run into as deep into water as you did in the video, so I guess no need to worry about the water getting into my shoes, which is the problem I have with my current regular nike pegasus as it does drizzle a lot in my city.
And I read some comments about feeling slippery when walking indoors, after the sole gets wet in an outdoor run, no sure if you came across that. Anyways after hearing what you say I think I will get a pair of pegasus trail gtx, just need to decide between v4 and v5, also waiting to see some new colors before making the decision. Big thanks
@@tianshutan2482 not really on slippery but I think just need to be careful in any shoes if it is really slippery underfoot. Not much in v4 or v5. Might depend on price and which colour you like best.
@@TimGrose Hi Tim it's me again, a week later I find myself with a new pair of Boston 12 and liking it lol! I am aware how much you dislike it after watching your reviews on Adidas shoes. I haven't had any running shoes from this brand, always been a Nikie fan, but I needed new shoes for my half-marathon and daily training, preferably something durable, and shoes like vaporfly are like, designed specifically for marathon racing, and my speed does not require such a premium model. I have Pegasus 36-39 and Zoomfly 3, but the recent nike training shoes are not too attractive to me. Still would like to buy a trail v4 or v5 for the winter, just waiting to see if they introduce more color for v5.
It rains here today and I ran 10k in Boston 12, since it's very wet on the road I ran in a rather easy pace, but I still finished with ~ 5:00/km speed, whereas I estimate in my worn out old shoes it would be 5:30-40/km. The continental rubber sole feels quite steady on wet ground. I liked the natural push it produces when I accelerate, at the same time it's not so aggressive like carbon plate shoes. You mentioned it being too heavy and wide for you, for my UK4 size it weighs only around 200g. the upper material feels flimsy tho. ( Just a bit of update, have a nice day!)
@@tianshutan2482 If my Boston 12 were only 200g sure I would like them more! I don't truly hate them but just not a shoe I feel I want to wear very often. Any new shoe ought to feel nicer than a worn out one as well! I have just ordered the new Nike Pegasus 41 GORE-TEX. If you are wanting a GORE-TEX shoe for wet roads then maybe this could be a better bet than the trail version in this video. I will be sure to test that!
Why didn't you show the green color? I'm thinking of buying the green color from the app.
It has only just been released in the UK so wasn’t available when I did this video few weeks ago.
Can you pour a bucket of water 💧 on top of it.
Kind of depends on your "aim"! I think if most of the water went straight down your legs then you would get wet feet but if most landed up on the upper or at least the laces should be a lot drier.
I've had the trail 3 and 4 GORE-TEX and mainly used them for walking. The 4's have been used for some running and a 10k trail race. The 3s were absolute tanks and got over 1000km of walking in them. The toe bumper on this new one has more resemblance to the 3s. Not sure I'm brave enough for the white though 😂 I'll stick to the darker colourways!
Yeah I rewatched my own Trail 4 GORE-TEX video and then remembered the 4 is a good bit "lighter" than the 3 which agree was sturdy! I probably would have got a black one for the 5 but no sign of when it was coming to the UK so took a punt with this white one.
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Yo tim
Narrow victory :)
What on earth are Nike doing with the colours that are available on their site?
Bright pink for men's and the grey and black only in womens? Despite that ALL the photographs on the MENS shoe are of MEN wearing the black and grey that's only available in womens??
Make it make sense.
I did notice on the US Nike site that there were a lot more colours on offer - 8 for men as I recall. When I bought these white ones it was actually the only one available in my size on Nike UK. I sometimes like a bit of pink but, at the time, the pink ones had all sold out anyway but I see have now been restocked. I probably would have got the all black ones again which I see are now available. Anyway I do think these white ones at least offer me something different to the black v4 and v3 already got although will need a lot more cleaning at the first sign of mud again which won't be long for sure. What colour are you wanting to get?
@@TimGrose Wow I didn't realise there were 8 colours on the US site! Just had a look. That's a good sign that we may get more soon I guess. I noticed it was the same set of photos on the US site, so that explains that one. I'm going to hold out for the black and grey I think they look great, hopefully they release them in mens soon. I like the black ones but they're a bit too plain for me. Thanks for the reply and for the video!
A green version just appeared on the UK site this morning 🤞
@@bumbelb263 ah well spotted. That is the one in a lot of the product details images. Quite like it and guess you would blend in well if do a lot on grass.
These are very narrow
I have long narrow feet but still have had to pull in the laces quite a lot. I don’t really find these much different for width than previous versions or indeed other Nike Pegasus running shoes. I can see however that if you have rather wide feet than might be an issue.
you can't have a waterproof shoe above the level of the actual shoe 😂😂😂 what a wise thought
Ha ha it does seem obvious when you say it in words but it is a limitation for sure.