I bought an Overlander a couple years ago, and I'm obsessed with it. It's a simple device that does what it is intended to do. No bells and whistles for the kiddies. I've gone on half a dozen cross country trips, with lots of off road camping...oops...overlanding. :)
Sold!! I'm about to buy one! I've got a Garmin traditional sat nav with hema maps loaded but it's nothing like this unit! To be able to switch between explore and drive modes that easily is superb! Thank you for sharing this Andrew! Love the quick disconnect too so you can remove it from your car easily to avoid theft and heat.
I agree: I bought one with Europe, Africa and the Middle East, intending to explore the dessert between Morocco and Algeria into Mauretania, but due to covid, we have to wait for better times to come. In the meantime, it is a fantastic device, and I can use it without glasses (when you get older, your sight deteriorates). Do not attach the device to the front screen with the suction cup. It will fall off !
I picked one of these up for about $400 US, and I absolutely love it. It does much more than some of the alternatives listed on here, such as having a 3D terrain view which is amazing in mountainous terrain. It also has a wireless camera capability that is unique. I had a camera mounted under my Jeep that allowed me to check tire placement and avoid rocks with the front differential. I'm moving it to the front bumper where it has projection lines for the path of the front wheels. It also connects to my Inreach for satellite communication and safety. On top of all that, the magnetic mount is icing on the cake. You can add at least 4 cameras, maybe more. You could even use them at night to see what's going on outside your tent or inside your vehicle. The range is long and you could use it from a regular ground tent. Amazing product and backed by Garmin. They constantly update the maps and firmware, too. I ran it on the Appalachian Byway and I woulnd't trade it for Gaia or anything else. (I ran Gaia simultaneously, as a backup.) Don't knock this thing until you try it. There are other options that are better at some of the things this does, but none of them do all of the things this does as well as it does them. Andrew, check out the wireless camera. I'd love to see some of the uses you'd come up with for it! Btw, those of you with overlanding trailers, it easily has the range to run the camera anywhere on it and give you a clear picture.
Unique? Every android/ios phone has "wireless camera capability" it is called Bluetooth or WiFi, allegro.pl/oferta/bezprzewodowa-kamera-cofania-wifi-hd-720p-android-8630527522 you can buy wireless camera and connect it to your phone. Separate device just for navigation is wasting money.
I am a long time big Garmin fan ; This device is brilliant but price is too high ; That might change but I still have my super reliable 276c as a backup and mainly use OziExplorer now on tablet. Samsung Tab S5e has full GPS systems compatibility (GPS/Galileo/Glonass & China systems) that ensures very good GPS coverage, lots of maps are available for offline use with Ozi and OziExplorer Android is just very good. I do agree anyway that this Garmin Overlander is a nice piece of equipment. Maybe one day I'll replace my 276c. But once you've started navigating on a 10' tablet ..... hard to go back to 6' devices .... Cheers
Funny that you had the same reaction, I was hesitant at first because of the price but after having used Garmin personal gps for hunting and having a motorcycle dedicated Garim on my motorcycle which survived a 200kmph accident and is now used on my Adventure bike I took the plunge I have had it a few months now a absolutely love how easy it was to learn its functions .... is it worth the price ..... let me put it this way you would be crazy not to spend the extra and get the Overlander I also have a simple Garmin Unit in my wife’s car and she is a self confessed non tech person she even found it easier to use than a smart phone, So I have 4 Garmin products and all are easy to update thru my laptop they tell you when there is new updated “ Free” maps waiting. No I am not paid or sponsored but I am fussy about what I buy and the Garmin is the best but the “Overlander” is the best thing since sliced bread
So I work with intelematics and tested the Garmin fleet™ 770 which is similar to what you have, one of my bug bears is the screen is not very responsive to the finger then notice you taping the same thing a few times, it seems they use the same hardware just different colours and software, They are coming with a new Garmin fleet device next year, hopefully with a better tactic/haptic screen. The mount is the same as in your video but I find it flips/folds down after a few bumps but if you use the ram mount it's solid! the windscreen mounted one is weak the weight of the device makes it tilt by itself. You can use it as a road camera type thing as well which is great.
Garmin love giving these to Overlanding Influencers. I have various Garmin products but this can easily be replaced by an iPad for half the price. The pricing is just way off for this.
@@fishingwithfrighty1615 In NA we use them with Gaia GPS offline maps downloaded to it. The reason you need the cellular version is because it has the GPS chip in it. You can get around that if you buy a compatible GPS receiver you can plug in to the iPad.
@@fishingwithfrighty1615 no not if you have a cellular enabled iPad. It doesn’t have to have a data plan or even a SIM card in. But only the wifi and cellular iPads have the GPS chips in.
@@matthewkeen3527 overlander is great for WA as Gaia dosnt support WA well. The IPad HEMA map app is terrible and memory maps is pretty good. I really wanted an I pad to do gps but I think I’ll get the overlander.
You should have a look at the Birdseye function from the Garmin Overlander. I think this is the coolest thing from this device. You can look for interesting places from above without using a drone and the Overlander will bring you there. You even have options if you travelling offroad with a trailer.
Andrew much better review. Now can you review something that us plebs in the suburbs can afford? Also, a huge thank you to all the commentators who suggested value for money solutions, some great ideas.
Thanks for that, Andrew. I still have my 276c, but it's showing its age. I'm pleased to see that the Overlander is actually cheaper than when I purchased my 276c in 2005. I seem to remember it was somewhere in the $1500 range.
Literally every tablet, or phone for that matter, can run Google maps and a topo map in split screen mode at the same time or switching between the two. I just don't see the value of this when you get the added benefits of a tablet. The tablet also has internet capabilities and can stand in as a backup phone if needed.
Except in many rural or outback areas of Australia there isnt even any cell-phone/mobile phone signal let alone data. You can have to have a system that as the maps on board without needing the web. Even in parts of the UK where I am based there is a lack of data coverage. I use Garmin. I currently have the Dezl 760 as I'm an lorry driver, and it has been invaluable. I will have to save up for this Overlander but I think its well worth it by the reviews already. And yes, I have Viewranger already on tablets. Having something on the Garmin would be so much better!
@@jeep6242 yeah but he bought it already and like every single person that wasted money on this Garmin, they want to justify the expense. They cant though.
One more thing. Garmin's customer service is outstanding. I asked them to update the firmware to flip the image on the wireless camera for forward use. I spoke directly to the gentleman who oversees the Overlander product line. He made no promises, but by the next firmware update, a few weeks later, it was there! Also, this thing interfaces somehow with my Garmin Fenix 5x watch. Not sure how or what I can do with that yet, but it shows up on the Overlander. I love the stuff this company does. They have so much potential to do more for overlanding, with their aviation and maritime engineering capacity. I'd love to see what else they could apply to our favorite pastime. And this unit has the open architecture (as an Android tablet) to adapt, too.
The problem I have comparing a satellite navigation system with cell phone nav apps (eg Gaia) is the roaming charges for a cell phone. $13/day to get data is a bit much, and when cell phone coverage becomes a bit flakey, then a unit like this shines. Thanks for the review.
It has a very short battery life and if discharged too much will not be able to boot up again. I bought one but to be honest it's big and very ordinary for the price. I bought it after seeing Andrew's review....I'm now wondering with all due respect, whether Andrew paid for his or was given it by the supplier. If I could swap mine out I would.
Also on topo you can touch the map and create a way point the screen will change and give you options touch the small triangle and the gps will navigate to the way point
Hi Andrew I've had mine for about a year I haven't used enough still getting used to it. How have you found the track recorder. Is it good for navigating back to where you came from. Also I made a bracket that is mounted off one of the screws on the handle on the pillar that you pull yourself up into the 4by works well brings the screen up close too you ease of operation don't trust those windscreen suction cups. I could have bought a ram mount but this worked great. Enjoy your videos Andrew cheers
I watched the review then read the comments and I agree with them We have a 7inch android tablet with cellular and will use it instead of this Garman that's over priced 1 dimensional product. The review was useful in this respect.
I too love my old 276C. Bought to use on a motorbike, a very sturdy unit indeed. I much prefer the map presentation on it to the dumbed down multi coloured mainstream maps, which have thick lines everywhere to depict roads. You'd have to use one to appreciate the vast difference that I'm ranting about. I also much prefer the 276C to google maps
Hi Andrew first of all thank you for reviewing this item I will seriously consider purchasing this gps . Let me tell you I fully respect your opinion dont let those with shallow minds dictate your reviews well done!!
Please let us know if, as you say it’s not sponsored by the makers/suppliers, do you get the product free or do you purchase these? If they supply these “demo” models of various product, do you return to the supplier after the review.? I think it’s important we know this detail so the transparency is complete. It is a significant distinction I feel. It would certainly impact my level of interest in the reviews.
My biggest problems with the Garmin Overlander are: No ability to layer maps, straight line when creating routes instead of autorouting to existing trails/roads, and the way to import/export routes. Those and the price is still a little steep for what is basically an Android tablet with locked/proprietary app features. That said, I still wouldn't mind having one to play around with and compare to GAIA GPS, but would only do so if Garmin had a half-price sale.
One good thing that came out of the first gulf war was that the satellites were all tuned up and have remained that way. GPS in the bush may be a luxury but a luxury that can save your bacon. Water is still the most important thing thought.
Yes, Andrew, it is fantastic but, it is a $1,000 whereas the VMS HN7 is $260 with VMS and Ozi Explorer maps. Okay if you get sent one or you can afford it but when on a budget...
Been lost gold prospecting in Australia 39c/ 102f ......that experience taught me alot,now I take 60 litres of water enough rations to last 2 weeks EPIRB and the Overlander,along with maps and compass as a secondary back up.Sitting under a gum tree contemplating which way to go next with your head spinning with fear is uncomfortable to say the least.
Because of THIS review i got one. I look at the reviews on things before i buy them but the honesty and excitement in this video won me over. I have zero regrets it is a great unit! I am wondering can i add On X offroad app on it the way you have added Himma app? I appreciate your response in advance Sir
Was gonna make a comment on the addedvalue/price ratio but I see that what needs to be said has been said in the comments below :) Garmin really does need to up their game if they wish to stay in the market that they helped create.
I've had a Garmin 276c since new. I was very disappointed when they stopped the updates, but it's very handy on older roads, it's so versatile. I use Google Maps on my Samsung galaxy note 8 which is automatically updated. Is the Overlander also updateable for the long term?
I have try to use a phone and a tablet to find some paths and sometimes it is quite confusing. But I own this one, and it is quite diferent despite it is based on android. This has a compass and a good antena and you can know were to go, not like the phone, and I don´t know why it doesn´t tell me the direction i´m walking as a GPS do. Perhaps it is because has some good antena and is more acurate for walking (driving do ok), were the phone (Samsung S40) have failed. This is more easy to use. I like it and it is what I´m using.
I think the old USB mini connector is a real downside at this point. Something this new should be USB-C. it's far superior, and it is getting legitimately hard to find the older replacement cables at this point.
You can find a 1000 mini usb cables on ebay for bugger all. Yes it is a bit old to be on a new product but it will do the job and is still easy to be found.
You can find them in in most garages(service stations) and Woollies or Coles not to mention most supermarkets have a range of and including the mini USB cables and chargers, hell I have a spare of all the USB cables in my laptop bag my phone uses a C my rechargeable lights use micro and some hands free Bluetooth device still use a mini USB so I can’t really see why it could be a deal breaker as long as you are Organised which you should be if planning to go trekking across Aussie
@@hansottevanger4112 I'm not in Aussie, so we have a slightly different selection of cables than you must. We still have micro usb, but mini is hard to find even in a Bestbuy now
Hmmm... small point really but since you mentioned it, on the Hema HN7 there are 8 different pointer colours to choose from. Don’t know if this is on the HX1. I do like the ability, on the Garmin, to have Drive and Explore running simultaneously. Not possible on the HN7.
I'll stick with my iPad mini for the price of this thing. I can also use it for UA-cam/Netflix/emails/weather and anything else. If Garmin included inreach functionality with this thing for $1000, then it would be worth it.
Hi Andrew very much enjoy your video,s and tips you do a great job you make it all sound interesting. I am wanting to buy an off road navigator. My question since this video would you still recommend the overlander. Any cons. Thank you regards Mark
I use the phone or tablet and also a 4 year old Garmin and while both work the Garmin is more consistent as the Phone tries to take wacky shortcuts constantly and it’s annoying and has gotten us lost two many times
700 bucks is a lot. do you really think it's 650 dollars worth better than using your mobile phone? and does it show offroad tracks in the poi or are you required to know the tracks locations via other sources. I've found often well known 4x4 only tracks aren't available for search on these devices. cheers for any input.
I agree completely. I used Gaia on my phone and iPad (riding on my motorbike as well as in the rigs) it would ping me sometimes, I don't know why, but roughly 50 miles from where I really was. I lost all faith in it after a couple times of this as well as downloading copious amounts of maps only to get places and notice that I am now outside of the region I wanted to download. I too, as a pilot absolutely love the Overlander, it is as easy to use as a 530, makes sense and everything I want or need is there. In the states we use iOverlander for places to camp, when remote if you don't have data or predownloaded the location you're boned on if you can or cannot camp at this spot. With the Garmin Overlander that app is installed and shows those areas on both presentation screens. Driving along, using turn by turn? Yep, there it is, locations to camp that you can touch, has a little bio just like the app. So good. For navigation on motorcycles I use onX Offroad, it is really good for what I do.
ive had Garmin in the past, and yes the battery needs changing a year or two later..... So i dont have much faith in this battery ... Looks like a great unit though
I enjoy your Vids from SA and always wanted to visit Australia. Sorry but you can keep the fly ridded place. Give me Namibia and Botswana any time, not to mention SA. Now I can see why Paul Marsh came back to SA.
You realise that SA is also South Australia and there aren't flies everywhere just in the hotter parts but, at least the rustling in the bushes isn't a Tiger or a Lion.
Haha! Plenty of flies at the wrong time of year in both places. Been to both. Shame to write off such experiences because of a few minutes impression on a video.
Got burned with the Magellan TRX7 and it's poor map database and went to an iPad Air using GAIA (which overheats in high temperatures while charging). That's the default in the US. But that still means an expensive iPad with maps that have to be downloaded well ahead of time on the computer. It doesn't encourage wandering and you are definitely wrestling with the tech. This looks like a better Magellan concept, with pre-installed maps and no need to prep, unless you want. to. Garmin maps are very good. The nav system in my Jeep is Garmin and it often got me out of situations when the TRX7 wasn't doing the trick. I might try the Garmin if I need to switch out the iPad.
I have the TRX 7 and it is slow and has issues, but I did make it work for me. It did well in Moab and on the Rimrocker trail and is the only other unit I've seen with a 3D terrain view like the Garmin. But Garmin did this concept MUCH more effectively than the Magellan. The big issue I'm having with the Magellan is getting some GPX files to show up on it. No issue with that with the Garmin.
You can save battery power in the phone. Google maps on my phone heats it up and chews through the battery power. A second device would be nice for that reason. But even another android or ipad instead of a garmin.
Great video ! I had a Hema HX1 and found that the hardware let the software and mapping down big time !!! Can any one tell me if the Garmin unit sync’s with the hema cloud ?
I had HX1 too. What a crap unit. If you have I-pad just get Hema maps, way better. That's all I'm using now and I-pad as you know can use for many uses. That unit is only GPS for $1000.
Andrew did u load the hema maps or are you using what came on it? Im disappointed it doesn't have the Hema 4Wd Tracks.Every year I spend 3 months purely doing bush driving in WA I use these maps all the time. I don't like how you have to manually start recording your tracks whereas hema automatically starts recording.The unit doesn't automatically turn on when the cars turned on and turn off when the car is turned off like hema either,Unless I haven't got it set up right? On a positive the screen is easy to see and the voice command works very good and as you said its a solid mount.
Mate if purchased from hema it will come with some of the hema maps also In settings you can have it turn on and off with the vehicle ,and if you have it connected to you homes wifi it will automatically updated when in range ,with tracking you can just turn it on and leave it running
Hi Rowan thanks for reply. I emailed hema and asked if the hema 4wd tracks that I purchased for $99 thru their app could be used on here as its Android based on my tablet and phone and they said it wasn't compatible.
Andrew, I'm not sure if you respond to comments, but I'm trying to decide between the Garmin Overlander and In-Reach or a tablet (like an iPad Pro) running any number of different map apps. My concern is that this could get dated very quickly (if we were to look at Garmins and TomToms from 15 years ago, we'd all be fairly aghast I think) and that it might not be as functional as a full tablet. If you have any thoughts on this, I'd find the discussion very helpful.
I believe this decision has far more to do with the map databases and the software in the devices. To generalise, the best device with the worst maps/software, will probably be the inferior navigation tool.
@@4xoverland Thanks for the reply. I absolutely agree, which is why I'm a little concerned about the software on board the Garmin. With so many apps out there, like Gaia, offering great products, being locked into the Garmin software might become a bit of a burden. Just watching some more reviews of it, it seems that the Garmin software is missing some trails and fire roads, as well as some of the advanced layering of other maps. The biggest advantages in a thing like this to me are that it's truly dedicated to this function and this function alone, it links up with the in-reach, it's fairly rugged, and it seems to be simple to use. But I look at a product like Gaia and I wonder if I wouldn't get more functionality out of that in the end. No matter which way I might go here, the cost is $800-1500 USD (factoring in the in reach and the overlander or a tablet and a gaia subscription). On that basis, it's a difficult decision to make
Question for you please Andrew,I already have the hema gps and one of the things that I find annoying is that I have to either save areas that I want to visit or I have to have phone reception so that the maps continue to load while on the move or I end up with a blank screen. Can you tell me if this is the case with the garment or if the maps are loaded and it can run 100% independently of any other devices
For real, the best in years navigator, coming from you I can trust. I like the 2d feature with North up always. With paper maps added I can figure out where I'm at since paper maps are north up too.
Just buy rugged Android phone/tablet and install offline topo maps (OsmAnd for example). Cheaper and much more reliable. Separate GPS device in 2020 is a stupidest idea i can think of. Price for this is just absurd. Also miniusb and microusb (different for base and device?!) ports in 2020?
I agree on all points. Especially get annoyed with different usb plugs all the time. Everything should be usb-c because as you get older like me you just can't see which way to plug it in. Not so with usb-c.
Would love one! But at the price it’s completely out of reach. Overlanding needs to stop becoming such a high price tag lifestyle especially considering it’s roots and what it’s basic true purpose is...to get out there!
I agree 💯 Sheldon 👍. But considering this lifestyle is rather specialized 🤦♂️,, I don't forsee prices dropping to an attainable level where everyone can jump on the bandwagon. I am budget focused and everything is done in stages based on $$ funds. I make due with what I currently have and hope 🙏 for the future. Safe travels, 🍻 G.
I bought an Overlander a couple years ago, and I'm obsessed with it. It's a simple device that does what it is intended to do. No bells and whistles for the kiddies. I've gone on half a dozen cross country trips, with lots of off road camping...oops...overlanding. :)
Somebody gave the flies your co-ordinates...
Sold!! I'm about to buy one! I've got a Garmin traditional sat nav with hema maps loaded but it's nothing like this unit! To be able to switch between explore and drive modes that easily is superb! Thank you for sharing this Andrew! Love the quick disconnect too so you can remove it from your car easily to avoid theft and heat.
I'm amazed out how many flies that can exist in a land where it's dry and not a lot of animals per mile.
I agree: I bought one with Europe, Africa and the Middle East, intending to explore the dessert between Morocco and Algeria into Mauretania, but due to covid, we have to wait for better times to come. In the meantime, it is a fantastic device, and I can use it without glasses (when you get older, your sight deteriorates). Do not attach the device to the front screen with the suction cup. It will fall off
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I picked one of these up for about $400 US, and I absolutely love it. It does much more than some of the alternatives listed on here, such as having a 3D terrain view which is amazing in mountainous terrain. It also has a wireless camera capability that is unique. I had a camera mounted under my Jeep that allowed me to check tire placement and avoid rocks with the front differential. I'm moving it to the front bumper where it has projection lines for the path of the front wheels. It also connects to my Inreach for satellite communication and safety. On top of all that, the magnetic mount is icing on the cake. You can add at least 4 cameras, maybe more. You could even use them at night to see what's going on outside your tent or inside your vehicle. The range is long and you could use it from a regular ground tent. Amazing product and backed by Garmin. They constantly update the maps and firmware, too. I ran it on the Appalachian Byway and I woulnd't trade it for Gaia or anything else. (I ran Gaia simultaneously, as a backup.) Don't knock this thing until you try it. There are other options that are better at some of the things this does, but none of them do all of the things this does as well as it does them. Andrew, check out the wireless camera. I'd love to see some of the uses you'd come up with for it! Btw, those of you with overlanding trailers, it easily has the range to run the camera anywhere on it and give you a clear picture.
Unique? Every android/ios phone has "wireless camera capability" it is called Bluetooth or WiFi, allegro.pl/oferta/bezprzewodowa-kamera-cofania-wifi-hd-720p-android-8630527522 you can buy wireless camera and connect it to your phone.
Separate device just for navigation is wasting money.
I am a long time big Garmin fan ; This device is brilliant but price is too high ; That might change but I still have my super reliable 276c as a backup and mainly use OziExplorer now on tablet. Samsung Tab S5e has full GPS systems compatibility (GPS/Galileo/Glonass & China systems) that ensures very good GPS coverage, lots of maps are available for offline use with Ozi and OziExplorer Android is just very good. I do agree anyway that this Garmin Overlander is a nice piece of equipment. Maybe one day I'll replace my 276c. But once you've started navigating on a 10' tablet ..... hard to go back to 6' devices .... Cheers
Funny that you had the same reaction, I was hesitant at first because of the price but after having used Garmin personal gps for hunting and having a motorcycle dedicated Garim on my motorcycle which survived a 200kmph accident and is now used on my Adventure bike I took the plunge I have had it a few months now a absolutely love how easy it was to learn its functions .... is it worth the price ..... let me put it this way you would be crazy not to spend the extra and get the Overlander I also have a simple Garmin Unit in my wife’s car and she is a self confessed non tech person she even found it easier to use than a smart phone, So I have 4 Garmin products and all are easy to update thru my laptop they tell you when there is new updated “ Free” maps waiting. No I am not paid or sponsored but I am fussy about what I buy and the Garmin is the best but the “Overlander” is the best thing since sliced bread
So I work with intelematics and tested the Garmin fleet™ 770 which is similar to what you have, one of my bug bears is the screen is not very responsive to the finger then notice you taping the same thing a few times, it seems they use the same hardware just different colours and software, They are coming with a new Garmin fleet device next year, hopefully with a better tactic/haptic screen. The mount is the same as in your video but I find it flips/folds down after a few bumps but if you use the ram mount it's solid! the windscreen mounted one is weak the weight of the device makes it tilt by itself. You can use it as a road camera type thing as well which is great.
Garmin love giving these to Overlanding Influencers. I have various Garmin products but this can easily be replaced by an iPad for half the price. The pricing is just way off for this.
Does the ipad need phone signal?
@@fishingwithfrighty1615 In NA we use them with Gaia GPS offline maps downloaded to it. The reason you need the cellular version is because it has the GPS chip in it. You can get around that if you buy a compatible GPS receiver you can plug in to the iPad.
@@fishingwithfrighty1615 no not if you have a cellular enabled iPad. It doesn’t have to have a data plan or even a SIM card in. But only the wifi and cellular iPads have the GPS chips in.
Yep he did get this for free, I saw his post asking about one on the Garmin UA-cam channel
@@matthewkeen3527 overlander is great for WA as Gaia dosnt support WA well.
The IPad HEMA map app is terrible and memory maps is pretty good.
I really wanted an I pad to do gps but I think I’ll get the overlander.
this needs Garmin inReach to be worthwhile, otherwise a tablet seems like a better option.
Agreed! I would love one but I balk at the price. Throw in the capabilities of inreach and I would buy it without a moments hesitation!
You should have a look at the Birdseye function from the Garmin Overlander. I think this is the coolest thing from this device. You can look for interesting places from above without using a drone and the Overlander will bring you there. You even have options if you travelling offroad with a trailer.
Andrew much better review. Now can you review something that us plebs in the suburbs can afford? Also, a huge thank you to all the commentators who suggested value for money solutions, some great ideas.
Andrew, you are making my Garmin Nuvi 200W look rather ancient. Still going strong since 2007.
One thing it is lacking is an electronic fly repeller.
I use my iPad with Gaia maps app for navigation. Has served me really well. Don't see the need for a Garmin.
Brolloks Bittergal memory maps is the go 😉
@Jbog07 As long as your tablet can see the sky there's not one inch of Australia it doesnt work great.
I agree. I don’t see what this can do that an iPad can’t, plus the ipad has a million other functions.
Thanks for that, Andrew. I still have my 276c, but it's showing its age. I'm pleased to see that the Overlander is actually cheaper than when I purchased my 276c in 2005. I seem to remember it was somewhere in the $1500 range.
I've had one of these for about a year and agree with his assessment. It is simple and intuitive to use.
Literally every tablet, or phone for that matter, can run Google maps and a topo map in split screen mode at the same time or switching between the two. I just don't see the value of this when you get the added benefits of a tablet. The tablet also has internet capabilities and can stand in as a backup phone if needed.
Agreed.
Except in many rural or outback areas of Australia there isnt even any cell-phone/mobile phone signal let alone data. You can have to have a system that as the maps on board without needing the web.
Even in parts of the UK where I am based there is a lack of data coverage. I use Garmin. I currently have the Dezl 760 as I'm an lorry driver, and it has been invaluable. I will have to save up for this Overlander but I think its well worth it by the reviews already.
And yes, I have Viewranger already on tablets. Having something on the Garmin would be so much better!
@@Elwyn525 Downloading maps ahead of time for both Google and any topo app is both possible and easy. That is not even remotely a factor.
@@jeep6242 yeah but he bought it already and like every single person that wasted money on this Garmin, they want to justify the expense. They cant though.
@@Elwyn525 You don't need cell phone signal with a tablet. You can download the same Garmin off line maps and a lot more
I love it when you get so excited about kit
One more thing. Garmin's customer service is outstanding. I asked them to update the firmware to flip the image on the wireless camera for forward use. I spoke directly to the gentleman who oversees the Overlander product line. He made no promises, but by the next firmware update, a few weeks later, it was there! Also, this thing interfaces somehow with my Garmin Fenix 5x watch. Not sure how or what I can do with that yet, but it shows up on the Overlander. I love the stuff this company does. They have so much potential to do more for overlanding, with their aviation and maritime engineering capacity. I'd love to see what else they could apply to our favorite pastime. And this unit has the open architecture (as an Android tablet) to adapt, too.
Finally a decent honest review now I might grab one thanks.
The problem I have comparing a satellite navigation system with cell phone nav apps (eg Gaia) is the roaming charges for a cell phone. $13/day to get data is a bit much, and when cell phone coverage becomes a bit flakey, then a unit like this shines. Thanks for the review.
It has a very short battery life and if discharged too much will not be able to boot up again. I bought one but to be honest it's big and very ordinary for the price. I bought it after seeing Andrew's review....I'm now wondering with all due respect, whether Andrew paid for his or was given it by the supplier. If I could swap mine out I would.
How beautiful is that Lochada track! Love it out there around Rothsay, especially when the wildflowers are out.
Also on topo you can touch the map and create a way point the screen will change and give you options touch the small triangle and the gps will navigate to the way point
Nice thing but its 6x the price of my road one. Ouch!
I'll be keeping on top of my map reading in the meantime.
Glad to see the Rolex back in action
Rolex😂 really
Hi Andrew I've had mine for about a year I haven't used enough still getting used to it. How have you found the track recorder. Is it good for navigating back to where you came from. Also I made a bracket that is mounted off one of the screws on the handle on the pillar that you pull yourself up into the 4by works well brings the screen up close too you ease of operation don't trust those windscreen suction cups. I could have bought a ram mount but this worked great. Enjoy your videos Andrew cheers
I watched the review then read the comments and I agree with them
We have a 7inch android tablet with cellular and will use it instead of this Garman that's over priced 1 dimensional product.
The review was useful in this respect.
I too love my old 276C. Bought to use on a motorbike, a very sturdy unit indeed. I much prefer the map presentation on it to the dumbed down multi coloured mainstream maps, which have thick lines everywhere to depict roads. You'd have to use one to appreciate the vast difference that I'm ranting about. I also much prefer the 276C to google maps
Looks awesome.. Can you set it to 'avoid flies' like a normal nav can be set to 'avoid highways'?
Thank you so much from California. I’m ordering one in the morning.
Hi Andrew first of all thank you for reviewing this item I will seriously consider purchasing this gps . Let me tell you I fully respect your opinion dont let those with shallow minds dictate your reviews well done!!
Hi Andrew . are those flies flying frantically around you - phuck that is frustrating - EISH !!!
Mate when your in one of the navigation pages touch the small icon in the top right corner and it will change between maps
Nice review. What I always want to know is can you see it in bright daylight with or with out sunglasses. My navman is unreadable in bright light.
i have the garmin montana while not so easy to read whilst moving i find it serves me well
Please let us know if, as you say it’s not sponsored by the makers/suppliers, do you get the product free or do you purchase these? If they supply these “demo” models of various product, do you return to the supplier after the review.? I think it’s important we know this detail so the transparency is complete. It is a significant distinction I feel. It would certainly impact my level of interest in the reviews.
I agree. I have looked at the overlander so many times but I can’t place the price of it. An IPad mini can’t do so much and even more I guess
@@Mr.Zimmerman Look for Black Friday sales (If in the US) or Ebay. I found mine, brand new, on Ebay for $400.
I love this review, can you do a review on memory maps and explor oz traveller please 🙏
Ram Mount have rubber fastner for tablet. So you can fasten rubber around the navigating thing. It have ball fastner already in the box.
My biggest problems with the Garmin Overlander are: No ability to layer maps, straight line when creating routes instead of autorouting to existing trails/roads, and the way to import/export routes. Those and the price is still a little steep for what is basically an Android tablet with locked/proprietary app features. That said, I still wouldn't mind having one to play around with and compare to GAIA GPS, but would only do so if Garmin had a half-price sale.
One good thing that came out of the first gulf war was that the satellites were all tuned up and have remained that way. GPS in the bush may be a luxury but a luxury that can save your bacon. Water is still the most important thing thought.
I will look at one next time in a shop… thanks, Andrew
Yes, Andrew, it is fantastic but, it is a $1,000 whereas the VMS HN7 is $260 with VMS and Ozi Explorer maps. Okay if you get sent one or you can afford it but when on a budget...
$700 usd, I'd rather get lost. 🌎
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J M If you have ever been truely lost you wouldn't hesitate to pay that much or more.🍀🍺🇦🇺
Been lost gold prospecting in Australia 39c/ 102f ......that experience taught me alot,now I take 60 litres of water enough rations to last 2 weeks EPIRB and the Overlander,along with maps and compass as a secondary back up.Sitting under a gum tree contemplating which way to go next with your head spinning with fear is uncomfortable to say the least.
@@grahamwhittaker8844 🍺🇦🇺
Got it new for $550 free shipping
This is in USA ... even tho I'd rather be in AU
The mount is a very good mount, but it does come off after suffering a few big hot-cold cycles.
Because of THIS review i got one. I look at the reviews on things before i buy them but the honesty and excitement in this video won me over. I have zero regrets it is a great unit! I am wondering can i add On X offroad app on it the way you have added Himma app?
I appreciate your response in advance Sir
Nothing to do with this video ..but it could be nice if u can do a video about salisbury and rover axel vs dana . Thanks for teachin so much knowledge
On the latest Hema you can make the location icon whatever colour you want...
I feel with mobile phones, tablets, andriod auto or Apple car play you can do just as well with free apps like Gaia maps.
The Garmin Magnetic mount has been around on various models for a few years now. It would need to be a rough road to dislodge it!
Was gonna make a comment on the addedvalue/price ratio but I see that what needs to be said has been said in the comments below :) Garmin really does need to up their game if they wish to stay in the market that they helped create.
'Android Tablet' and 'Maps Me' plus a few other apps.....but I still have paper maps and a compass
Question is... would you buy it with your own cash?
I've had a Garmin 276c since new. I was very disappointed when they stopped the updates, but it's very handy on older roads, it's so versatile. I use Google Maps on my Samsung galaxy note 8 which is automatically updated. Is the Overlander also updateable for the long term?
I have try to use a phone and a tablet to find some paths and sometimes it is quite confusing. But I own this one, and it is quite diferent despite it is based on android. This has a compass and a good antena and you can know were to go, not like the phone, and I don´t know why it doesn´t tell me the direction i´m walking as a GPS do. Perhaps it is because has some good antena and is more acurate for walking (driving do ok), were the phone (Samsung S40) have failed. This is more easy to use. I like it and it is what I´m using.
hi love you channel , can i load other maps onto the garmin overlander as the hema maps seems to be missing many tracks .. thanks David
I think the old USB mini connector is a real downside at this point. Something this new should be USB-C. it's far superior, and it is getting legitimately hard to find the older replacement cables at this point.
You can find a 1000 mini usb cables on ebay for bugger all. Yes it is a bit old to be on a new product but it will do the job and is still easy to be found.
@@raptor0040 You are never by ebay when you really need to find a cable. USB C is at every corner store around here.
You can find them in in most garages(service stations) and Woollies or Coles not to mention most supermarkets have a range of and including the mini USB cables and chargers, hell I have a spare of all the USB cables in my laptop bag my phone uses a C my rechargeable lights use micro and some hands free Bluetooth device still use a mini USB so I can’t really see why it could be a deal breaker as long as you are Organised which you should be if planning to go trekking across Aussie
@@hansottevanger4112 I'm not in Aussie, so we have a slightly different selection of cables than you must. We still have micro usb, but mini is hard to find even in a Bestbuy now
@@ShoeysAdventures Good point. High priced electronics don't have an excuse for this style
Hmmm... small point really but since you mentioned it, on the Hema HN7 there are 8 different pointer colours to choose from. Don’t know if this is on the HX1.
I do like the ability, on the Garmin, to have Drive and Explore running simultaneously. Not possible on the HN7.
At $900AUD, you need to convince me how this is better than a stand alone tablet with a GPS chip. Just crazy money.
I'll stick with my iPad mini for the price of this thing. I can also use it for UA-cam/Netflix/emails/weather and anything else.
If Garmin included inreach functionality with this thing for $1000, then it would be worth it.
Anthony Gatley memory maps on the iPad is WAY better
Its great Madala Andrew but the price tag ouch! Great review!
Hi Andrew
Great video do the maps come with it or do you need to download them.
Thanks.
Hi Andrew very much enjoy your video,s and tips you do a great job you make it all sound interesting. I am wanting to buy an off road navigator. My question since this video would you still recommend the overlander. Any cons. Thank you regards Mark
I use the phone or tablet and also a 4 year old Garmin and while both work the Garmin is more consistent as the Phone tries to take wacky shortcuts constantly and it’s annoying and has gotten us lost two many times
700 bucks is a lot. do you really think it's 650 dollars worth better than using your mobile phone? and does it show offroad tracks in the poi or are you required to know the tracks locations via other sources. I've found often well known 4x4 only tracks aren't available for search on these devices. cheers for any input.
I agree completely. I used Gaia on my phone and iPad (riding on my motorbike as well as in the rigs) it would ping me sometimes, I don't know why, but roughly 50 miles from where I really was. I lost all faith in it after a couple times of this as well as downloading copious amounts of maps only to get places and notice that I am now outside of the region I wanted to download.
I too, as a pilot absolutely love the Overlander, it is as easy to use as a 530, makes sense and everything I want or need is there. In the states we use iOverlander for places to camp, when remote if you don't have data or predownloaded the location you're boned on if you can or cannot camp at this spot. With the Garmin Overlander that app is installed and shows those areas on both presentation screens. Driving along, using turn by turn? Yep, there it is, locations to camp that you can touch, has a little bio just like the app.
So good.
For navigation on motorcycles I use onX Offroad, it is really good for what I do.
Hi Andrew, how do you find the Garmin GPS one year later? I am in the market of choosing my first 4x4 gps maps.
ive had Garmin in the past, and yes the battery needs changing a year or two later..... So i dont have much faith in this battery ... Looks like a great unit though
Love this device, great review, thanks
I use Memory Map with free topo maps and paid hema maps on my Android phone and tablet.
Does the signal drop out when you go remote though?
@@allwheelinoz4707 no, it uses the GPS module in the phone and the maps are all downloaded to your phone and available offline.
How about an iPad with maps downloaded and paired with an inreach mini?
why is the hot water shower review no longer available? you dident recomand it any more? thx
I enjoy your Vids from SA and always wanted to visit Australia. Sorry but you can keep the fly ridded place. Give me Namibia and Botswana any time, not to mention SA. Now I can see why Paul Marsh came back to SA.
You realise that SA is also South Australia and there aren't flies everywhere just in the hotter parts but, at least the rustling in the bushes isn't a Tiger or a Lion.
@@Vacublaster1 No Tigers in South Africa, get your facts right, only in a zoo.
Haha! Plenty of flies at the wrong time of year in both places. Been to both. Shame to write off such experiences because of a few minutes impression on a video.
Does anybody knows if a second version will come out soon? Don't want to buy it today and see next month a newer version available in the market.
8:30 Nakamichi Tape deck, that would have sounded fantastic!
Is the newer hema 4x4 explorer app available on the overlander??
Got burned with the Magellan TRX7 and it's poor map database and went to an iPad Air using GAIA (which overheats in high temperatures while charging). That's the default in the US. But that still means an expensive iPad with maps that have to be downloaded well ahead of time on the computer. It doesn't encourage wandering and you are definitely wrestling with the tech. This looks like a better Magellan concept, with pre-installed maps and no need to prep, unless you want. to. Garmin maps are very good. The nav system in my Jeep is Garmin and it often got me out of situations when the TRX7 wasn't doing the trick. I might try the Garmin if I need to switch out the iPad.
I have the TRX 7 and it is slow and has issues, but I did make it work for me. It did well in Moab and on the Rimrocker trail and is the only other unit I've seen with a 3D terrain view like the Garmin. But Garmin did this concept MUCH more effectively than the Magellan. The big issue I'm having with the Magellan is getting some GPX files to show up on it. No issue with that with the Garmin.
Question please, what is the best advantage of using standalone navigation devices over say Google maps from a phone or tablet?
Thanks for the video 🙂
You can save battery power in the phone. Google maps on my phone heats it up and chews through the battery power. A second device would be nice for that reason. But even another android or ipad instead of a garmin.
Great video ! I had a Hema HX1 and found that the hardware let the software and mapping down big time !!! Can any one tell me if the Garmin unit sync’s with the hema cloud ?
I had HX1 too. What a crap unit. If you have I-pad just get Hema maps, way better. That's all I'm using now and I-pad as you know can use for many uses. That unit is only GPS for $1000.
Can't make up my mind if Andrew liked it or not?
Hey uh, are you considering changing your 5 piece raised air intake with an actual snorkel?
Love these series of videos Andrew!
thank you for detail video on GPS
Also my overlander don’t achieve unblock the maps. Why?
I remember having a seperate device for gps navigation. Ah the 00’s
Nice review - What's your watch?
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does it come with the hema maps or do you pay extra for those?
Andrew did u load the hema maps or are you using what came on it? Im disappointed it doesn't have the Hema 4Wd Tracks.Every year I spend 3 months purely doing bush driving in WA I use these maps all the time. I don't like how you have to manually start recording your tracks whereas hema automatically starts recording.The unit doesn't automatically turn on when the cars turned on and turn off when the car is turned off like hema either,Unless I haven't got it set up right? On a positive the screen is easy to see and the voice command works very good and as you said its a solid mount.
Mate if purchased from hema it will come with some of the hema maps also In settings you can have it turn on and off with the vehicle ,and if you have it connected to you homes wifi it will automatically updated when in range ,with tracking you can just turn it on and leave it running
Hi Rowan thanks for reply. I emailed hema and asked if the hema 4wd tracks that I purchased for $99 thru their app could be used on here as its Android based on my tablet and phone and they said it wasn't compatible.
Good review thanks.
I love mine too. Even better when paired with the in reach mini and the backup camera.
Andrew, I'm not sure if you respond to comments, but I'm trying to decide between the Garmin Overlander and In-Reach or a tablet (like an iPad Pro) running any number of different map apps. My concern is that this could get dated very quickly (if we were to look at Garmins and TomToms from 15 years ago, we'd all be fairly aghast I think) and that it might not be as functional as a full tablet. If you have any thoughts on this, I'd find the discussion very helpful.
I believe this decision has far more to do with the map databases and the software in the devices. To generalise, the best device with the worst maps/software, will probably be the inferior navigation tool.
@@4xoverland Thanks for the reply. I absolutely agree, which is why I'm a little concerned about the software on board the Garmin. With so many apps out there, like Gaia, offering great products, being locked into the Garmin software might become a bit of a burden. Just watching some more reviews of it, it seems that the Garmin software is missing some trails and fire roads, as well as some of the advanced layering of other maps.
The biggest advantages in a thing like this to me are that it's truly dedicated to this function and this function alone, it links up with the in-reach, it's fairly rugged, and it seems to be simple to use.
But I look at a product like Gaia and I wonder if I wouldn't get more functionality out of that in the end. No matter which way I might go here, the cost is $800-1500 USD (factoring in the in reach and the overlander or a tablet and a gaia subscription). On that basis, it's a difficult decision to make
Question for you please Andrew,I already have the hema gps and one of the things that I find annoying is that I have to either save areas that I want to visit or I have to have phone reception so that the maps continue to load while on the move or I end up with a blank screen. Can you tell me if this is the case with the garment or if the maps are loaded and it can run 100% independently of any other devices
For real, the best in years navigator, coming from you I can trust.
I like the 2d feature with North up always. With paper maps added I can figure out where I'm at since paper maps are north up too.
Just buy rugged Android phone/tablet and install offline topo maps (OsmAnd for example). Cheaper and much more reliable. Separate GPS device in 2020 is a stupidest idea i can think of. Price for this is just absurd. Also miniusb and microusb (different for base and device?!) ports in 2020?
I agree on all points. Especially get annoyed with different usb plugs all the time.
Everything should be usb-c because as you get older like me you just can't see which way to plug it in. Not so with usb-c.
I find myself wanting to swat my t.v.
Holy moly Flies!
How do you get the Hema maps on it? Does it cost extra?
Would love one! But at the price it’s completely out of reach. Overlanding needs to stop becoming such a high price tag lifestyle especially considering it’s roots and what it’s basic true purpose is...to get out there!
I agree 💯 Sheldon 👍.
But considering this lifestyle is rather specialized 🤦♂️,, I don't forsee prices dropping to an attainable level where everyone can jump on the bandwagon. I am budget focused and everything is done in stages based on $$ funds.
I make due with what I currently have and hope 🙏 for the future.
Safe travels, 🍻 G.
IPad (which many folk have) and a good app?