Orient Triton vs Orient Kamasu Diver
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- I contrast two popular affordable divers from Orient. The beautiful red Kamasu and the sharp blue Triton (yes I know Orient changed the name to Neptune.... silly) It's not hard to see why some watch lovers are passing on Orient's cousin Seiko and getting into value divers like these two. Let me know what you think!
I got the Kamasu here. It will be given to Spencer (local youth) this weekend. Congrats Spencer!
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I bought the Triton from a viewer for this video (Thanks Hector!) and I'll be selling it here pretty soon. So email me if you would like it for $260. USA only please
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The Triton is one of the best watches in the price range. Better quality than a samurai and the turtle imo
If they made a triton with a milled clasp, 42mm, and sapphire insert, it'd be game over for every other diver under 1k.
Just by a strapcode
@@mariosimas and the saphire insert in Long Island Watches.
@@rogeliopitti7120 thats my mod :)
Just got the Kamasu and it's an amazing watch. Bought it as didn't have any red in my collection since i sold my Tudor Black Bay red bezel years ago.... it's a great watch. Wears so well on a 6.75 inch wrist. Just a fantastic everyday wear. Came off the bracelet and went onto a nato. The finishing isn't all that but i don't look at it like i look at my mid tier or premium watches....
I own the blue Gold limited model of the kamasu. Really beautiful watch. Limited to 2000 units worldwide. Pretty cool.
I bought a few watches in Tokyo in December. I seem to reach for the Blue Kamasu every day. Even with the “cheap” bracelet it is comfortable and its price and sapphire means I don’t worry too much about it.
The macro shots were fantastic. Thanks for showing that level of detail.
I love my triton, power reserve and blue, what an awesome package for around 300$. The only thing that somewhat hurts the wearability is this sucker weights 200+ g!
Very good review. I own both watches, same dial color of this video, and I love both!
The Japanese day wheel is so much nicer than the Spanish one, it's lowkey avatar elements with characters of water moon earth fire etc
That burgundy Kamasu is killer. I like the Triton a lot, but because I have the bigger brother, the Orient Saturation Diver, I would choose the Kamasu over the Triton in a beat, specifically this red one, I really love the color.
Very interesting comparison, thanks for doing this Bruce! I love the PR and bracelet fit and finish on the Triton, but I think the Kamasu just has something about it that speaks to me a bit more. Cheers!
I have the blue Triton. Keeps excellent time. And is a true diver. Being JIS certified.
Orient watches are just superb! I have two, Sun and Moon V. 2 and Mako XL. These watches don't cost fortune but man they are just simply beautiful and amazing! Looking to buy a Neptune/Triton before this year ends! You can't go wrong with Japanese watches!
Both awesome! If both were cheaper I absolutely buy both but I have to buy cheaper to save budget...Kamasu!
i have 8 inch wrists and i used to love big watches like the triton. I now sold the triton and got a kamasu and cant imagine wearing a watch as big as the triton again.
Great review. The drilled lugs on the Triton/Neptune is a plus for me. And that PRI.
Seeing as Seiko stopped manufacturing the SKX line, Kamasu is the way to go if you want a good Japanese diver which isn't absolutely massive. I guess Mini Turtle is nice as well but those are starting to become rare as well.
The Mako USA is 41.5mm, the Triton is 42.6mm and the Kamasu is 41.8mm. All very close.
The Kamasu crown is a dumpster fire to screw back in. It has about a half a thread that's very hard to catch and it's very small, so it's hard to grip with your thumb and index. That said, it's a very nice watch. I love the bezel. Unless you want the Green or Red, I would Go with a Mako II. It's half the price of a Kamasu and, with the exception of the bezel which is not bad looking anyway, looks just as nice. I have the Blue Mako II and the dial is gorgeous. I have the Green Kamasu and, FYI, the Green of the dial is much darker in person than it appears in the Orient promotional pictures.
Good review. I actually purchased the Kamasu after your last review. My only gripe with the Triton is the crown. It might be super awesome, functionally, but looks very cheap IMO. I found my eye kept going to it.
Id probably say Kamasu + aftermarket bracelet if it ever comes out over the triton. But boy you really like that caseback
Yeah man its nicely done!
@@BruceWilliams 😂 that it is
Like William Rizzo, I have a blue Triton and a blue Ray II. I also really like the looks of the green (teal) Kamasu, but will probably not buy one (I think I have enough dive style watches). I wish the Triton’s minute hand was longer and the asymmetrical dial takes some getting used to, but I wear my Triton more than any of my other watches. It easily has the best lume of any of my watches, both in brightness and distribution.
I was already set for the Kamasu. But now after watching this, I'm so torn T_T
Just bought a s/h Triton in black and it in mint con plus a Strap Code Jubilee bracelet and is the best diver I've ever had and I've owned a lot! I will say hold onto them as the are so expensive now if you can find one and will become the Sarb033of divers...
Triton is a true ISO certified diver watch while Kamasu is not
True, the triton is compliant with Iso 6425 Specs
@@BruceWilliams Correct, it is certified by a Japanese government office. Also the Triton is x 2 the price. Oddly for a daily watch I'd wear the Kamasu
How many of us are actually divers?
@@markusstraubinger3779 some of us spending our money on certain amount to appriciate the specs beside model, heritage, etc. And a real pro diver will mostly use Garmin or G-Shock.
for desktop diving while wearing business casual green or blue Kamasu will do really good :D And especially will come handy with occasional danger of spilled beverage or unintended hot tub :D
I like the triton much better. Brushed hands equals better visibility imo. What I don't really care for is the o-ring on the triton's crown. Seems pointless, unless it's there for added grip in wet conditions.
Right off the bat, I choose the Kamasu... it looks better on your wrist due to it's more reasonable proportions and I've never been a fan of 4 o'clock crown positions.
Great review Bruce. I enjoy the watches sub 1500.00. I feel they resinate with the viewers. JMO and thanks for the spirited reply’s to my comments last week. Cheers .
Regards
A lot of guys love that range to be honest!
got the mako ray II. 123 off of amazon. it is the clear winner in the land of entry level divers.
Nice video. I have a Triton and enjoy it’s heft. Feels solid. Have many divers and wanted to add an Orient to my collection. Not disappointed.
New Triton model ( crown at 4 position) heavy-duty case, it is substantial and I love mine 💪
Very nice review of both watches. I just ordered a red dial Kamasu from Orient USA a few days ago and am anxiously awaiting its arrival. The Triton, as a certified diver, has a more tool like finish and appeal. I like both watches and may add a Triton down the road. The Kamasu will be my first Orient. FYI: for those who are interested, Orient USA has a nice holiday promotion of 15% off across their lineup. 👍🏻
El Orient Triton/Neptune ofrece una calidad que normalmente encuentras en relojes del doble de precio. Lo único mejorable es el brazalete, pero Strapcode ofrece una gran variedad de opciones. El mio fue reemplazado por un brazalete estilo Oyster similar a los del Submariner con broche en acero esmerilado. Y la precisión es muy buena; +8 segundos al dia.
Man great comparison. Thank you
Amazing video as always, hoping to get my blue Kamasu next week, love the Triton but the price difference in Europe is huge.
Exciting!
@@BruceWilliams Got the watch today and it's awesome. Glad I chose it over the "5KX".
Hello Bruce! Love the channel, good work you put down! A few requests; 1) You seem to prefer the ETA over the Sellita, why? Comparison video? Or a video about movements in general, pros/cons. 2) I’ve found interesse in the less popular models from Tudor, especially the «Style», a review of it would be a first no youtube! Thanks, and keep up the good work!
if these watches came with straps that were milled and of weight instead of light weight stamped stuff i would be more inclined to buy ,the watch itself looks great,id love to see a ceramic bezel too
Thanks Bruce. My Orient Make III is an overall good watch for the money, but I struggle with the crown winding and the bezel. Both of these are very tight and very difficult to turn. I even returned the one i had but got the same thing back. As you say, the QA issues concern me honestly and I'm not sure I'd buy any more Orient's. .
Gotta be careful threading.
That is a good comment, I forgot to mention the kamasu has a small kind of hard to operate crown. I like the crown action on the triton though
I totally agree about Seiko, QC is very poor , had a new seiko 5 sports , 3 days ago , chapter ring miss aligned, and I expected it to be , for some reason ,, to appear on my channel in the next few days thanks shane uk 🇬🇧
Good review Bruce, you emphasized the strong points of both watches. I've had the blue triton for more than 1 1/2 years now and it's an amazing watch, though its size and lug-to-lug length does not make it a watch for everyone. Its only weak points, to my mind, are its crown (it does not screw and unscrew as well as the crown of a seiko diver) and its bracelet. I tried the strapcode angus jubilee, but the end links of that bracelet add a few more mms in total lug-to-lug length, making it borderline for my 7 1/4" wrists. For me, it wears most comfortably on a rubber strap. I wear mine on a blue, with red underside, barton elite silicone.
The kamasu's lug-to-lug length makes it more versatile for bracelet and strap options. I hope strapcode makes an alternative bracelet, with solid end links, for the kamasu. That would elevate the watch on a whole new level.
I've heard great things about the barton elites. I agree with your points here
Thank you for this video. I was really stuck between these two watches for my next diver so this was perfect for me. I'm heavily leaning towards the Triton because of its traditional yet more interesting look and the fact that it's a true JIS certified diver.
Very good review Bruce! I must admit I like the brushed hands. Why? Because it’s hardly ever done. Everybody high polishes their hands. Easier to do it that way. But taking the time to brush them is showing that they thought this thru. It’s a real diver and that anti reflective brushed hand set and bezel are perfect along with sapphire crystal. Kudos to Orient for taking the time to show they think about what it’s true purpose is. Now I’m thinking, why did I let it go?!!! Haha
Same here. I kinda regret i sell my triton. Like "how i can get perfect watch like that" anymore
Just ordered the Kamasu. Preferred the slightly smaller size. Wish it had the power reserve complication but oh well.
I have the Kamasu, and one thing you missed is the horrible crown action. It's loose, and hard to "catch" when you screw it in. Otherwise, a great watch.
Great comparison! Waiting for the price to drop on the Triton, here in Canada. Cheers!
Sounds like the Triton has the Seiko style 120 click where the bezel, itself, is actually a 60 click with the alternating spring. I always clip one of the raised springs down just enough to make it a tight 60 click bezel instead of that crappy, spongy click and half feeling 120 click bezel. The Kamasu has the same exact spring as an skx but it has an actual 120 bezel so both raised springs are hitting at the same time. Much better system
The version of the Kamasu available in the US is slightly bigger than the JDM version. I think 41.8mm according to what I've seen. Not sure what other differences there are.
Triton is a great example of ballancing the cost of the end product. Add on one place and make a cut on the other.
They included (by some reports, mine gains 10 seconds per day, that is why I can't agree) a high grade movement so they made everything else (except the case back which looks great, the case is also nice and heawy) cheap.
The screw stem for the crown is much thinner than the one on mako, two turns are enough to get it unscrewed. With a crown that huge prone to get hit, two turns may as well be enough to get it opened by accident. It is also impossible to screw tightly.
The Bezel feels cheap unlike the one on the Mako with nice clear clicks, tne insert is badly fitted and finished, the bracelet clasp is made of the thinnest possible metal that still enables it to stay in one piece. I must say that at this price point they should do it better.
Orient guys know how to make a great value diver, have done it before with Mako. I own both and Mako feels far more solid. I am not saying that Triton is terrible or a bad watch over all, it just does not feel like a 380 EUR piece, I would expect this quality and preformance at 200 or maybe a bit over. Get a Steinhart or a Seiko baby tuna/Samurai, much better deal for the price.
I have the blue Triton / Neptune and the Orient Blue-ray II. I am currently looking for a green dial Komatsu to add to my collection. I agree with you about the tritons hands and I feel the second hand should be red tipped to match the power indicator. I wish the power indicator was at 12 and the date window at the 6 to make it more uniform, but that's just my OCD kicking in. Also the Komatsu has folded and links compared to solid on the Triton / Neptune. Thank you
I have to add I paid $325 delivered for the Triton from jomashop.
The new orient star diver has the power reserve at 12 and it looks to have a 50 hour reserve. I would love to review one!
I think both are great watches. I own a Triton and I love it. You just get so much for the price. It demonstrates very well how Orient do quality for an amazing price.
Hard to choose but I think Triton is the winner. For me one of the best divers out there with an unbeatable price.Congratulations for the presentation and the comparison with Sumo.
Thank you
Triton is the choice if you're into snorkeling. It has the look of a tool. The Kamasu is a more delicate looking piece and more suitable for my wrist (6-3/4). I like the maroon dial and agree with you about the hands. But, until this 70's Caravelle Set-o-matic devil diver gives up the ghost, one diver is enough. Although, that maroon dial....
Nice helpful review nice helpful review
Well I made this very easy on myself I own both models and enjoy wearing both. The choice usually is more about color matching what I’m wearing that day than this one has the power reserve or this one has the day complication. Great comparison 👍
The Kamasu kicks serious butt for the money. I have the red dial version.
How did you find a Kamasu with a japanese date wheel? I didn't even know they were available.
Triton is chock protected wAtch. There are two laiyers of soft rubber O-rimgs. Like in OSD!
Acording to specification, they have same accuracy range. But in real life, Teiton has much, much accurate and higher grade Calibre. I have both and 2 years exipience of usage.
Kamasu is a gorgeous looking watch. Love it.
Not long after purchase, in my kamasu, the crown came off loose when pulled out to set time. Is this a common defect for orient?
Great video Bruce! Really like the look of the Triton even though I've never own an Orient! Which is weird considering how many brands I've owned over the years, seems like Orient does get lots of love in the watch community so I would have no problems buying the brand and have always thought with all the Bambino styles at crazy cheap prices the brand has a lot to offer the customer.. With the Kamasu I don't care for the bezel with the bigger indent at every 10 minute mark, know lots of micro brands use a bezel like this and think Orient was the first to put it on one of their watches.. Really not into the bracelet without SEL but strapcode makes so many aftermarket bracelets that fit Orient I'm sure there's many options for a better bracelet in the 100 dollar range..
Yeah I don't care for the indentations either, but it seems to be one of those distinctive features Orient guys like. Hope you try a triton or bambino one day man
@@BruceWilliams Thanks Bruce & Happy Holidays to you and Family...
I actually started shopping for a new Seiko and ended up with an Orient Kamasu LE
I'm in the Triton camp on this one. That particular Kamasu with the red dial is very nice, but overall the Kamasu (and the Ray and Mako for that matter) doesn't do much for me. The price point on the Kamasu is great but value for dollar the Triton seems on another level.
what I don't like about orient triton is the flat printed orient logo, unlike the one in orient kamasu which looks more artistic.
I have a 6.50 inches wrist size and the triton looks a bit bigger on my wrist. Compared to samurai and turtle from seiko, triton is a little bit smaller than those two with more worth-the-money value.
My triton was sold just yesterday. And then i realized just how triton is such a perfect watch in it's price range.
-43mm case
-sapphire crystal with AR coating
-40N5A movement with nice accuracy
-power reserve
-applied indice and nice lume
-nice bezel action
-nice finishing
-nice solid steel bracelet
-nice lume pip with sapphire glass
-screw down crown.
-signed crown.
-perfect aligned chapter ring
All of that with just about USD350.
Please tell me what can replaced my orient triton?
Great video. Many thanks! 🙏
I have the green Kamasu on a tropic strap it’s really great comfortable wear
Thx for the video, I'm interested in getting a black dial kamasu however I'm not sure if it's not a bit undersized for my 7.4 inch wrist?
Both watches are nice. But, if they put that Kamasu dial on the Triton, then you’d have it all.
I have the Kamasu in that beautiful red. Best bang for the buck. Nice review!
Thanks!
Hey Bruce, if you hit the Orient USA website, that watch is called the Neptune now.
Is the Neptune the exact same watch or is it a mark 2 gen? Are there any differences other than the name change?
Do you have any insight on this?
Thanks for another excellent video!
Many buyers moving to Chinese brands with Seiko movements also
Triton for me no question. Test drove one back in the fall and I was very impressed.
Real star if the show is the blingmaster 5000
I'd use a Binford 8200 on that Bling Master 5000 .... lol 😁
orient can rival Swiss made watch in durability, quality and value or even better. ill buy the kamasu cus 43mm the Triton is to big for my wrist.
I've heard that the Triton's lugs curve pretty well, wearing smaller than people would think, I'd think that it wears more like a 40-42.
I have a 16.5 cm wrist, and I am very happy with my Triton, especially with the nato strap. You should try it.
@@massia.72 does a nato strap make the watch look smaler? thank you
How about fit on the triton against the sumo?
I am a big fan of Orient but they need to make a smaller watches
2:49 Kamasu*
The only improvement to me, over my Mako USA, with either of these watches, is the Triton's power indicator. Where is the value in these new Orient models?
Sapphire crystal
The Mako USA has a sapphire crystal
It's a different style watch. The Mako USA is also a much larger watch.
I would sacrifice not having sapphire, spend a bit more and go for the Sumo instead, like you said the finishing is amazing on the Seiko. Ps how are Orient Star divers compared to the Triton? I have an OS dress watch and the finishing is superb for $250.
Kamasu will outsell Triton by 10 to 1.
Have both, the Triton is out for repair. The Kamasu for the money is fantastic, was just setting the time and date. The Triton is in a different class. But love the color on the Kamasu. Also to be honest, the Triton is an older model by several years. So I give it a pass.
At 2:49 I think you misspoke and meant to say the Kamasu is the smaller watch
What your thoughts on the new edition Triton replacement ?
I’m trying to decide between the triton or spinnaker Dumas ... any advice?
Sou fã de Orient. Lindos relógios!
The Kamari for me
You have watch the macro view. I took a magnifying glass to the case of a recent purchase (one that has been praised amongst reviewers for finish) and was sadly disappointed.
You contradicted yourself a few times the saphire comment and the weight yes I've also ditched Seiko
Which watch was this?
80's Nostalgia Guy The watch was a Vaer field watch. Vaer replaced the watch without question.
Let’s vote, who here would pay $35 more for a decent bracelet (solid end links with good springbars, solid clasp). It shouldn’t cost more, in china they can sell a bracelet even better that what I described, sell it for $20 and make good profit (rolex bracelet clones). This is the issues with Mako/Ray/Kamasu, they have the poorest end-links I ever say and poor 1.5mm springbars that can barely keep the watch on your hand. At least if we had a decent aftermarket option, hut we don’t, excepting Strapcode for Mako/Ray which is ugly, poor fit and way too expensive for the quality.
I'm sure many would pay 35 more but there is no way in heck a decent bracelet would only add 35 to the retail. I would say it would bump up at least 150
Bruce Williams There are already much better bracelets for less than that on the market, made for other watches. Even the overpriced ones from strapcode cost under $60. Orient can even keep the current bracelet which is fine and just change the end links, springbars and the clasp I think at least this can be done for $35 max. Anyway, great video as usual, thank you 👍
@@d3xmeister I've learned just because it can be done cheaply in China, dosen't mean it will. A Seiko Epson owned brand would take the opportunity to make ample profit on a upgraded bracelet even if it seems trivial to us. It helps them justify the couple hundred dollar difference between the two models
I Love Orient
What is the size of your wrist
The minute hand on the Triton is quite shorter than that on the Kamasu. It's a pet-peeve of mine when the hands don't reach the designated markers. Also not a fan of the silicone ring on the crown on the Triton. Ruins the look for me, Other than these two negatives, the Triton is obviously the better watch.
How difficult is it to find a bezel insert replacement for the Kamasu? It has those indents, so not perfectly round.
those indents give it character
Однозначно - Triton 👍 Kamasu... Я предпочёл им Mako 2. Минеральное стекло для меня не проблема.
I love triton😍
Only if Orient fix their bloody logo ai. Its the only factor that keeping me away from these nice watches.
I've heard a few people say that over the years, personally I don't see anything on it needing to be fixed
Excellent review. Love the red kamasu. I noticed you said you prefer kanji date wheels - can you read them?
Its taken me some time, but I can recognize the day now lol
Hi which Seiko model is on-time 1:02
Is there too much difference between the 2 movement accuracy. I have a mako USA 2 with the same movement as the kamasu that's +10s a day
No its rated for a roughly 40 second acceptable deviation rate but I've never owned one more than 10 sec off. Usually 6-7 for me
I love my kamasu LE. I did view all three models of triton in a shop after I bought kamasu. I like them, but the colourways is a little boring. In the end I bought padi monster over the triton. Haha
The PADI monster is an awesome watch but don’t ya have room for the orient also?😄
Unfortunately I do. Looking at older m-force. Haha
I can't swim but like divers watch ....