Yes, its an awesome industry. From industrial electrician, power distribution up through machinery automation device's and all the programming of the control systems. It's been a long and winding road from IBEW in 1976 to today, but it's never been a boring life, lol. Truly amazing how fast the industrial automation market grown and technology changes. But I was never ever without work or food for the family. I am still very thankful for all the good men that helped me learn and go forward over the years in automation and electrical design installations. Your videos are a good reminder of that, Thanks for all your sharing and teaching for others in the industry today! Truly awesome :)
Hello my name is Dave I work as a technical recruiter for Flextronics. We have job Vacancies for Automation technicians at Flextronics, Austin TEXAS. send a dm if you have 4years+ experience in the field. Military personnel with PLC technical training are encouraged to apply. Associate Degree in related field is a plus. Staffing for over 40 positions - both contract and full time Relocation assistance available for full time positions.
lol for me, it is the older guy that is a little crabby. Its the guy who is impatient and telling people No. He has already been down that path years ago and is not interested in repeating past mistakes.
I’m a technician with 3 years experience and I’m currently going to college for electrical engineering. I got in the field with no experience went from 40k-60k in 3 years . I realized the degree is a title. But The same thing for the title of a technician. Is all about the individual. I went from wiring control panel and plc. Now doing electrical and mechanical drawings. Next is to start doing programming. My boss gave gave me slc 500 and rxlogix.
@@Obzrve Hello there I see you are well experienced as an Automation technician, I work as a technical recruiter for flextronics in Austin Texas, and we have job vacancies for Automation technicians with 4 years experience, send a reply if you're interested.
I start Monday as a Controls Engineer. I went to a trade school for Maintenance and worked as a multi craft technician for a year and somehow got a plc programmer job. I’m glad because it’s exactly what I want to learn and do but at the same time anxious. Lol
Very insightful video, I don't have a formal education in automation but am learning as I go. My current plan is to work as a maintenance technician>> control system technician>> control system lead and then a control engineer, but if they offer me an entry level control engineer position anytime soon, I'll take it.
@@ahopefiend1867 Am currently working at an Amazon building in their RME department. They used a level based system so all I have to do is apply for a higher position and take the interview/test. A lot of opportunity for career growth if you have the skill and experience.
I’ve been a wireless tech in the cell phone industry for 24+ years, I would’ve loved to have followed this type of career path instead, but at this point in time I’ve topped out in pay and though I am still young enough to transition into this line of work I know they wouldn’t pay me what I make now, plus I would start all over learning a new technology--but my this type of work seems really interesting!
Thank you for making this video! ❤ I can really relate to this for I just recieved my first job as a process automation engineer and this is the first time this role is being established at the company and my mentor is the plc technician. Since this is my first job, I really don't know how this is going to work and I would sincerely appreciate your advice.
I'm ready to start want to do something different Been a HVAC technician for 7 years a little burned out. So I became a Engineer for a hospital which is really Maintenance. Now I want to become a PLC technician.
Hi Logix Workshops, thank you so much for the informative video. I wonder, in what state of the US is your professional experience, and what specific industry you have worked in? I ask because at least in California, and the rest of the US as far as I know (and perhaps globally), the title of 'engineer' cannot be granted/issued to someone that does not hold at least a 4-year university degree in an engineering field. This is certainly the case in 99% of the cases in government positions, and probably 90% the case in private industry. Aside from that, you are absolutely right that the level of compensation and technical responsibility varies by the individual's knowledge and experience on the subject, and the companies' practices and expectations. I would add that the type of controls engineer/technician and industry in question also matters quite a lot. For example, in factory automation, a controls engineer or technician may end up doing just about the same thing, and the engineering degree may not matter as much. However, in the petrochemical, power plant, or other sophisticated product industries for example, there is a clear distinction between a Control Systems Engineer and an Industrial Controls Technician: the Engineer has (or should -- not always the case, unfortunately) the breadth of science and physics knowledge base to be trusted with designing and understanding processes, conducting risk and hazards analyses, establishing process setpoints and parameters based on physics and the associated process objectives, etc. (... and also sometimes the ability and skill to perform 'technician'-level tasks as well), whereas the Controls Technician would likely not take on such aspects. For such cases, the engineering salary substantially surpasses the technician salary. I enjoyed your video. I hope you don't mind my input -- I just wanted to contribute my 2 cents to your audience's understanding of the matter. Take care.
I live in Indiana and work around the USA and have traveled around the world. I do not have a 4 year college degree, however I have been an engineer for many years.
Hello my name is Dave I work as a technical recruiter for Flextronics. We have job Vacancies for Automation technicians at Flextronics, Austin TEXAS. send a dm if you have 4years+ experience in the field. Military personnel with PLC technical training are encouraged to apply. Associate Degree in related field is a plus. Staffing for over 40 positions - both contract and full time Relocation assistance available for full time positions.
Hi! Thank you for the thorough explanation, Im a mechanical engineer and im trying to switch to automation engineering , would that change be too difficult ? Can you make a video explaining what an automation engineer should know? Once more thank you for all the info you share with us! Greetings from Panama 🇵🇦!
I'm working with a guy right now from Oaxaca Mexico who did what your asking about. He got his ME in Mexico and got a job in automation when he came to the US. It worked for him.
Nice! I'm just starting a position tomorrow as a button Pusher in a Manufacturing Corporation, but have a very wide range of experience as field technician and have studied many subjects. The plant manager is also an Automation Engineer and we go to the same church! So I'm hoping to become a tech under him eventually.
Let me leave you with one incredible thought. The machine, conveyor etc. that you will be working on was built (likely) and programed by an automation company. Finds out the name of the machine builder (should be on a label somewhere on the machine) go to the internet and look them up. Ask the maintenance team and or call the company, ask a for a copy of the electrical prints, and the PLC program. Both can give you a copy of the PLC program printed out or in PDF form. You'd be surprised how many will give them to you. Then start studying the machine, its operation and compare the program and the operation.
Really great information , Have been looking on some of your videos and is interesting . Do you have any information on where you can find entry job openings for PLC Tech / Programmer ?
My best advice would be to network your way into your first PLC programming position. If oyu dont know any programmers than get online and meet them. They are everywhere, go to PLCTalk.com for starters, or Facebook groups.
Great Video! I wanted to ask you if you would say a bachelor's degree is worth it in order to work in automation. Do you yourself hold a bachelor's degree? Is it necessary to obtain one in order to progress in the industry? Thanks again!
No it is not necessary unless you want to be in management. A bachelors will open more doors but a certificate + years of experience or an associates will do fine for getting into the door.
I don't really agree. Ive worked for very large Fortune 500 companies as a controls engineer for about 10 years now. They do have the standard hierarchy that you say electrician FST/Controls Tech and then Engineer. I have had colleague at one company who were never allowed in pay nor title to go above technician without a degree. You are correct that some quote unquote technicians have a better skill set than some people with the title engineer. With that being said though most people that are outperformed as an engineer by a technician really aren't fit for the role of engineer. I've come across a lot of degreed engineers that are only engineers by degree and it kind of bothers me. Most of the time I'm just happy when someone who is a real controls engineer (degreed or non degreed) is given the title fitting of their skillset. Again I say though most companies coming through the door especially European and Asian for some reason would rather have be the title to a degreed person over the skillset and experience and this is why the job landscape is what it it is now
You created a chicken before the egg scenario. How do green engineers get trained? The bottom line is, techs are more hands on for code grunt work, and engineers are do more design. In industry we still need to grow an engineer. What bothers me is mentality. Give me a green engineer with a strong drive and attitude and he is a helpful addition. Comparing a 10 year tech to a 2 year engineer.... you get expected results in their performance by comparison. The problem is there are a shortage of both disciplines and the only route forward is trial by fire.
@@jeremyadair5780 yes, trained engineers have a much more humble understanding of processes. There’s a 19 year old controls technician who is just learning how to use the teach pendant. He gets looked down on but is very patient and never leaves his robot in a situation when he thinks it might drop a part or cause some problem in the future. The older technician just wants to get the line back up and go on break. Long term the engineer student is more valuable. Plus being college educated means you are educated. You know how to navigate people a lot better. That’s why corporations want them. It’s a lot easier to integrate diverse talents and people when you are working with well rounded people.
Sounds like you started saying you dont agree with me, but I noticed that you actually make my case for me. Its often a toss up regarding which title someone has and how much experience they bring, which is the gist of my video. wouldn't you agree?
I’m sure there’s good & bad of both engineers and techs. Depends on the company . Big companies would have more specialists. Small company would have better all rounders as they don’t suffer the hierarchy issue. Title doesn’t shit. Comes down to experience end of the day
Hello my name is Dave I work as a technical recruiter for Flextronics. We have job Vacancies for Automation technicians at Flextronics, Austin TEXAS. send a dm if you have 4years+ experience in the field. Military personnel with PLC technical training are encouraged to apply. Associate Degree in related field is a plus. Staffing for over 40 positions - both contract and full time Relocation assistance available for full time positions.
Very difficult to compare , i'm maintenance technician with automation and electricity specialities , and i'm looking for some solutions to install/modify the all system , programmaing , materials setup , calibrate , test for modify or put all new system , with that i do also the maintenance part , find the defaults , find solution to let the production made the parts without the component which is break . I do also mecanics , pneumatics , hydro etc ... This is why it's so easer to demand to some engeneer work to a technician because when u have a very good technician who can do all difficult thing , why do u need a engineer ?And where is the limit. Plus , your technician do the same things or better things but the company will not pay you the salary u deserve . I updates , made the electrcal draw , mecanic draw , manage the inventory , i welcome also provider when we don't have the component or tools to modify system . And to modify system u have to know how the all system work u don't have the choice and trust me into the process u have a lot of differents components which work totaly differently
Hello I am a 35 year old electrician construction mainly.i have beaten down body from various jobs.i want to jump to automation,is it hard for the body?
Hi, I have a question. I'm learning PLC programming (TIA Portal) and that takes a lot of time and effort. But in college there's another animal to beat: Power Electronics. The class is difficult for me and I have spent a lot of time studying that. What if I just focus on PLC programming and get out there working in automation field without the strong foundation of Power electronics, is it okay? Or it'll be a big hole in my education and I'll get troubles in daily work?
Engineering is more than programming. You will be tasked with designing a control cabinet, which includes transformers, power supplies, VFDs, and circuit protection. An example is I have 480V 3-phase power coming into my cabinet. I want to add a 3-phase 480v to 240V 15KVA transformer to my machine. I must install a circuit breaker on the primary side that is sized to 167% of the full load amperage on the primary side. What size is that?
I think the growth of AI will be like the growth of computers for some time to come. Computers were suppose to eliminate all jobs and yet it needs more people then ever, because technology only creates more work. My thoughts.
this is total bullshit....if you have an engineering degree an apply for an industrial automation engineer positions you can negotiate up to 120,000 dollars. This is especially true if you are an Electrical Engineer. The reason why you only made 60k as an "automation engineer" is because everyone knows you are REALLY just a technician. Period. Also if you have an engineering degree you will probably be running the project. Don't sugar coat it. Be honest.
Of course I wasn't a senior engineer, that's why I didn't make $120,000 a year. However, if you've had my experience you would discover that employers who hire for programming, often dont know the automation industry and choose to bargain for the lowest salary they can offer. And different regions pay differently as well, combined with at the beginning not knowing the value of my work all contributed to a low wage. That's the facts Jack, not everyone has a degree, gets hired by an engineering firm is sent to the best schools and mentored by senior engineers, wouldn't you agree?
@@LogixWorkshops I am not arguing about your circumstances in particular. I take issue with you telling people in the video that somehow being a technician is going to fast track people into an engineering career. You may have the title engineer, but the title is not going to come with running a project, respect, or most importantly the salary that comes with being a real engineer. That is just how it is. I was a technician before myself before I entered engineering. Been doing this for over 6 years now at 3 different companies. It is a completely different lifestyle.
Hello my name is Dave I work as a technical recruiter for Flextronics. We have job Vacancies for Automation technicians at Flextronics, Austin TEXAS. send a dm if you have 4years+ experience in the field. Military personnel with PLC technical training are encouraged to apply. Associate Degree in related field is a plus. Staffing for over 40 positions - both contract and full time Relocation assistance available for full time positions.
I work for a system integrator as a technician. Half the Application Developers and project managers here started as field techs. I’ve seen guys with no degrees get controls engineer jobs make over 120k a year at some of the most well respected companies in the country. I get offered great engineering positions all the time. Degrees get entry level jobs, experience gets you the cool, fun, high paying jobs. Understanding how electricity interacts with the real world and computer logic makes you undeniable. If you can’t code and don’t understand electricity, nobody cares about your degree. Employers test people for controls jobs these days, that’s the true equalizer and has humbled many aspiring controls professionals (myself included) controls tech might not be a fast track to engineering, but it can definitely take you there with a totally unique set of skills and experience. (Plus controls tech pay is great so no debt).
@@111clooneyNice to hear an optomistic perspective. I am a 10 year tech. Of a split mind on the topic. On the one hand I get cool jobs, get paid pretty well, perks, actually BUILD the thing with my own two hands, am the jelly in the PB&J sandwich that holds the team together. On the other hand plenty of grunt work and can not earn as much as an Engineer of comparable experience level, not even close to the salary of an Engineering manager.
It's been my experience that technicians actually know how the equipment operates, whereas engineers know the theory behind it and how to design it.
Often that can be the case, but not always.
Technicians study a lot of theory too
Yes, its an awesome industry. From industrial electrician, power distribution up through machinery automation device's and all the programming of the control systems. It's been a long and winding road from IBEW in 1976 to today, but it's never been a boring life, lol. Truly amazing how fast the industrial automation market grown and technology changes. But I was never ever without work or food for the family.
I am still very thankful for all the good men that helped me learn and go forward over the years in automation and electrical design installations. Your videos are a good reminder of that, Thanks for all your sharing and teaching for others in the industry today!
Truly awesome :)
Hello my name is Dave I work as a technical recruiter for Flextronics.
We have job Vacancies for Automation technicians at Flextronics, Austin TEXAS.
send a dm if you have 4years+ experience in the field.
Military personnel with PLC technical training are encouraged to apply. Associate Degree in related field is a plus.
Staffing for over 40 positions - both contract and full time
Relocation assistance available for full time positions.
Glad to help
Anytime a tech/engineer uses their whole eyesockets to blink, you know they are the real deal.
lol for me, it is the older guy that is a little crabby. Its the guy who is impatient and telling people No. He has already been down that path years ago and is not interested in repeating past mistakes.
Or helped up on caffeine!!! Lol
I’m a technician with 3 years experience and I’m currently going to college for electrical engineering. I got in the field with no experience went from 40k-60k in 3 years . I realized the degree is a title. But The same thing for the title of a technician. Is all about the individual. I went from wiring control panel and plc. Now doing electrical and mechanical drawings. Next is to start doing programming. My boss gave gave me slc 500 and rxlogix.
Good luck and dont stop!
But never starting to create your own design, based on operations or work flow, because..... you're not an engineer, yet!
Change my career at 30. Just got my Associate Degree in engineering technology. Now going on for my electrical engineering degree. Next journey begins
@@Obzrve Hello there I see you are well experienced as an Automation technician, I work as a technical recruiter for flextronics in Austin Texas, and we have job vacancies for Automation technicians with 4 years experience, send a reply if you're interested.
I start Monday as a Controls Engineer. I went to a trade school for Maintenance and worked as a multi craft technician for a year and somehow got a plc programmer job. I’m glad because it’s exactly what I want to learn and do but at the same time anxious. Lol
Good luck, let me know if you get stuck.
Very insightful video, I don't have a formal education in automation but am learning as I go. My current plan is to work as a maintenance technician>> control system technician>> control system lead and then a control engineer, but if they offer me an entry level control engineer position anytime soon, I'll take it.
I think you should take the position as well. Often its all about getting that first job, and continuing to learn.
Is the company you are working giving you promotions?
@@ahopefiend1867 Am currently working at an Amazon building in their RME department. They used a level based system so all I have to do is apply for a higher position and take the interview/test. A lot of opportunity for career growth if you have the skill and experience.
I’ve been a wireless tech in the cell phone industry for 24+ years, I would’ve loved to have followed this type of career path instead, but at this point in time I’ve topped out in pay and though I am still young enough to transition into this line of work I know they wouldn’t pay me what I make now, plus I would start all over learning a new technology--but my this type of work seems really interesting!
Your providing so much value with your channel! 🙏🏾 🙏🏾🙏🏾
I appreciate that!
Thank you. Electronic Engineer Here moving more into the automation Space. Very Exciting Field
Good luck, its a great career.
This guy speaks the truth
Thank you.
Thank you for making this video! ❤ I can really relate to this for I just recieved my first job as a process automation engineer and this is the first time this role is being established at the company and my mentor is the plc technician. Since this is my first job, I really don't know how this is going to work and I would sincerely appreciate your advice.
Glad it was helpful!
I'm ready to start want to do something different Been a HVAC technician for 7 years a little burned out. So I became a Engineer for a hospital which is really Maintenance. Now I want to become a PLC technician.
Hi Logix Workshops, thank you so much for the informative video. I wonder, in what state of the US is your professional experience, and what specific industry you have worked in?
I ask because at least in California, and the rest of the US as far as I know (and perhaps globally), the title of 'engineer' cannot be granted/issued to someone that does not hold at least a 4-year university degree in an engineering field. This is certainly the case in 99% of the cases in government positions, and probably 90% the case in private industry.
Aside from that, you are absolutely right that the level of compensation and technical responsibility varies by the individual's knowledge and experience on the subject, and the companies' practices and expectations.
I would add that the type of controls engineer/technician and industry in question also matters quite a lot. For example, in factory automation, a controls engineer or technician may end up doing just about the same thing, and the engineering degree may not matter as much. However, in the petrochemical, power plant, or other sophisticated product industries for example, there is a clear distinction between a Control Systems Engineer and an Industrial Controls Technician: the Engineer has (or should -- not always the case, unfortunately) the breadth of science and physics knowledge base to be trusted with designing and understanding processes, conducting risk and hazards analyses, establishing process setpoints and parameters based on physics and the associated process objectives, etc. (... and also sometimes the ability and skill to perform 'technician'-level tasks as well), whereas the Controls Technician would likely not take on such aspects. For such cases, the engineering salary substantially surpasses the technician salary.
I enjoyed your video. I hope you don't mind my input -- I just wanted to contribute my 2 cents to your audience's understanding of the matter. Take care.
I live in Indiana and work around the USA and have traveled around the world. I do not have a 4 year college degree, however I have been an engineer for many years.
Hello my name is Dave I work as a technical recruiter for Flextronics.
We have job Vacancies for Automation technicians at Flextronics, Austin TEXAS.
send a dm if you have 4years+ experience in the field.
Military personnel with PLC technical training are encouraged to apply. Associate Degree in related field is a plus.
Staffing for over 40 positions - both contract and full time
Relocation assistance available for full time positions.
Hi! Thank you for the thorough explanation, Im a mechanical engineer and im trying to switch to automation engineering , would that change be too difficult ? Can you make a video explaining what an automation engineer should know? Once more thank you for all the info you share with us! Greetings from Panama 🇵🇦!
I will add it to my list so consider it done, soon!
I'm working with a guy right now from Oaxaca Mexico who did what your asking about. He got his ME in Mexico and got a job in automation when he came to the US. It worked for him.
Nice! I'm just starting a position tomorrow as a button Pusher in a Manufacturing Corporation, but have a very wide range of experience as field technician and have studied many subjects.
The plant manager is also an Automation Engineer and we go to the same church! So I'm hoping to become a tech under him eventually.
Let me leave you with one incredible thought. The machine, conveyor etc. that you will be working on was built (likely) and programed by an automation company. Finds out the name of the machine builder (should be on a label somewhere on the machine) go to the internet and look them up. Ask the maintenance team and or call the company, ask a for a copy of the electrical prints, and the PLC program. Both can give you a copy of the PLC program printed out or in PDF form. You'd be surprised how many will give them to you. Then start studying the machine, its operation and compare the program and the operation.
Still I'm Finalyear in industrial instrumentation and automation grad Thanks lot for ur info 👍👍
You are welcome
Which school are you?
@@dominicamoakobaah9516 I am building my training program right now. It should be ready very shortly.
Thanks
Really great information , Have been looking on some of your videos and is interesting . Do you have any information on where you can find entry job openings for PLC Tech / Programmer ?
My best advice would be to network your way into your first PLC programming position. If oyu dont know any programmers than get online and meet them. They are everywhere, go to PLCTalk.com for starters, or Facebook groups.
@@LogixWorkshops Thank you I will do that .
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4 year Automation Technician 105k,they've took down 1 a
Only Engineer position that was at 1500 people plant,so we do all.
Great Video! I wanted to ask you if you would say a bachelor's degree is worth it in order to work in automation. Do you yourself hold a bachelor's degree? Is it necessary to obtain one in order to progress in the industry? Thanks again!
No it is not necessary unless you want to be in management. A bachelors will open more doors but a certificate + years of experience or an associates will do fine for getting into the door.
Thanks for your explanations , keep going🌹
Thank you, I will
Very practical and informative information! Thanks for sharing!
Glad it was helpful!
thanks sir i've learnt a lot
Glad to hear that
I don't really agree. Ive worked for very large Fortune 500 companies as a controls engineer for about 10 years now. They do have the standard hierarchy that you say electrician FST/Controls Tech and then Engineer. I have had colleague at one company who were never allowed in pay nor title to go above technician without a degree. You are correct that some quote unquote technicians have a better skill set than some people with the title engineer. With that being said though most people that are outperformed as an engineer by a technician really aren't fit for the role of engineer. I've come across a lot of degreed engineers that are only engineers by degree and it kind of bothers me. Most of the time I'm just happy when someone who is a real controls engineer (degreed or non degreed) is given the title fitting of their skillset. Again I say though most companies coming through the door especially European and Asian for some reason would rather have be the title to a degreed person over the skillset and experience and this is why the job landscape is what it it is now
You created a chicken before the egg scenario. How do green engineers get trained? The bottom line is, techs are more hands on for code grunt work, and engineers are do more design. In industry we still need to grow an engineer. What bothers me is mentality. Give me a green engineer with a strong drive and attitude and he is a helpful addition. Comparing a 10 year tech to a 2 year engineer.... you get expected results in their performance by comparison. The problem is there are a shortage of both disciplines and the only route forward is trial by fire.
@@jeremyadair5780 yes, trained engineers have a much more humble understanding of processes. There’s a 19 year old controls technician who is just learning how to use the teach pendant. He gets looked down on but is very patient and never leaves his robot in a situation when he thinks it might drop a part or cause some problem in the future. The older technician just wants to get the line back up and go on break. Long term the engineer student is more valuable. Plus being college educated means you are educated. You know how to navigate people a lot better. That’s why corporations want them. It’s a lot easier to integrate diverse talents and people when you are working with well rounded people.
Sounds like you started saying you dont agree with me, but I noticed that you actually make my case for me. Its often a toss up regarding which title someone has and how much experience they bring, which is the gist of my video. wouldn't you agree?
I’m sure there’s good & bad of both engineers and techs. Depends on the company . Big companies would have more specialists. Small company would have better all rounders as they don’t suffer the hierarchy issue. Title doesn’t shit. Comes down to experience end of the day
Hello my name is Dave I work as a technical recruiter for Flextronics.
We have job Vacancies for Automation technicians at Flextronics, Austin TEXAS.
send a dm if you have 4years+ experience in the field.
Military personnel with PLC technical training are encouraged to apply. Associate Degree in related field is a plus.
Staffing for over 40 positions - both contract and full time
Relocation assistance available for full time positions.
Very difficult to compare , i'm maintenance technician with automation and electricity specialities , and i'm looking for some solutions to install/modify the all system , programmaing , materials setup , calibrate , test for modify or put all new system , with that i do also the maintenance part , find the defaults , find solution to let the production made the parts without the component which is break .
I do also mecanics , pneumatics , hydro etc ...
This is why it's so easer to demand to some engeneer work to a technician because when u have a very good technician who can do all difficult thing , why do u need a engineer ?And where is the limit.
Plus , your technician do the same things or better things but the company will not pay you the salary u deserve .
I updates , made the electrcal draw , mecanic draw , manage the inventory , i welcome also provider when we don't have the component or tools to modify system .
And to modify system u have to know how the all system work u don't have the choice and trust me into the process u have a lot of differents components which work totaly differently
Hello I am a 35 year old electrician construction mainly.i have beaten down body from various jobs.i want to jump to automation,is it hard for the body?
No, just the mind.
Job opportunities for Robotics and automation engineers
Website down?
Is this similar to what Mechatronics technicians do?
It is very similar to what Mechatronics do, yes.
Hi, I have a question. I'm learning PLC programming (TIA Portal) and that takes a lot of time and effort. But in college there's another animal to beat: Power Electronics. The class is difficult for me and I have spent a lot of time studying that. What if I just focus on PLC programming and get out there working in automation field without the strong foundation of Power electronics, is it okay? Or it'll be a big hole in my education and I'll get troubles in daily work?
The curriculum is in that order for a reason. I recommend taking your time to complete the courses in order
@@alexdelgado9231 Thank you for your recommendation.
Engineering is more than programming. You will be tasked with designing a control cabinet, which includes transformers, power supplies, VFDs, and circuit protection. An example is I have 480V 3-phase power coming into my cabinet. I want to add a 3-phase 480v to 240V 15KVA transformer to my machine. I must install a circuit breaker on the primary side that is sized to 167% of the full load amperage on the primary side. What size is that?
Its better to go with technician first then second engineer.
Depends on your skill and their need. Either will work.
So, technician is something like commissioning and engineer is like the real PLC programmer, who really making the PLC project logic?
Not always but often you will find that structure used.
Do you think this control engineering can be took over by AI?
I think the growth of AI will be like the growth of computers for some time to come. Computers were suppose to eliminate all jobs and yet it needs more people then ever, because technology only creates more work. My thoughts.
Don't forget to mention, EEs take lunch at noon and leave at 5:00 while techs eat and leave when it's working.
Yes sir, but if your an engineer it works for you. I've been in both positions.
Im not smart enough to be an engineer
Yes you are>
this is total bullshit....if you have an engineering degree an apply for an industrial automation engineer positions you can negotiate up to 120,000 dollars. This is especially true if you are an Electrical Engineer. The reason why you only made 60k as an "automation engineer" is because everyone knows you are REALLY just a technician. Period. Also if you have an engineering degree you will probably be running the project. Don't sugar coat it. Be honest.
Of course I wasn't a senior engineer, that's why I didn't make $120,000 a year. However, if you've had my experience you would discover that employers who hire for programming, often dont know the automation industry and choose to bargain for the lowest salary they can offer. And different regions pay differently as well, combined with at the beginning not knowing the value of my work all contributed to a low wage. That's the facts Jack, not everyone has a degree, gets hired by an engineering firm is sent to the best schools and mentored by senior engineers, wouldn't you agree?
@@LogixWorkshops I am not arguing about your circumstances in particular. I take issue with you telling people in the video that somehow being a technician is going to fast track people into an engineering career. You may have the title engineer, but the title is not going to come with running a project, respect, or most importantly the salary that comes with being a real engineer.
That is just how it is. I was a technician before myself before I entered engineering. Been doing this for over 6 years now at 3 different companies. It is a completely different lifestyle.
Hello my name is Dave I work as a technical recruiter for Flextronics.
We have job Vacancies for Automation technicians at Flextronics, Austin TEXAS.
send a dm if you have 4years+ experience in the field.
Military personnel with PLC technical training are encouraged to apply. Associate Degree in related field is a plus.
Staffing for over 40 positions - both contract and full time
Relocation assistance available for full time positions.
I work for a system integrator as a technician. Half the Application Developers and project managers here started as field techs. I’ve seen guys with no degrees get controls engineer jobs make over 120k a year at some of the most well respected companies in the country. I get offered great engineering positions all the time. Degrees get entry level jobs, experience gets you the cool, fun, high paying jobs. Understanding how electricity interacts with the real world and computer logic makes you undeniable. If you can’t code and don’t understand electricity, nobody cares about your degree. Employers test people for controls jobs these days, that’s the true equalizer and has humbled many aspiring controls professionals (myself included) controls tech might not be a fast track to engineering, but it can definitely take you there with a totally unique set of skills and experience. (Plus controls tech pay is great so no debt).
@@111clooneyNice to hear an optomistic perspective. I am a 10 year tech. Of a split mind on the topic. On the one hand I get cool jobs, get paid pretty well, perks, actually BUILD the thing with my own two hands, am the jelly in the PB&J sandwich that holds the team together. On the other hand plenty of grunt work and can not earn as much as an Engineer of comparable experience level, not even close to the salary of an Engineering manager.
Job opportunities for Robotics and automation engineers
Literally, a thousand or more of them.