Cathar basic beliefs | Sunday message from the Cathars #36
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- How to become a Cathar? What are the five Cathar basic beliefs? Brother Borislav answers.
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GOD BLESS YOU
My mother told me about the Kathars, she passed away recently, now a dove visits me often wich leads me to these freedom teachings again 🦋🕊. I need to visit France.
Oh I pray you find your way to your highest sense of your faith, as well as to France. Thanks for what you shared, I was touched.
Beautiful.
Have you visited yet?
I will go to France to visit the Cathar historical sites although they did arrive in England & 1144 is the earliest records I have found so far .
I visited the Cathar museum in Toulouse.
Cathar is a 19th century word it claimed and that the "evil" the cathars expressed was a 20th century invention.
The albagencian movement was undoubtedly a heresy which had developed around a political separatist movement. Placed in the middle of the 13th century and given it's geographical location, it was potentially explosive for the stability of France and the whole of medieval Europe at that time.
That explosion eventually arrived with Lutheranism and Europe feel into centuries of war.
The anti Cathar crusade ans the crushing is the princes in rebellion delayed that occuring for 300 years.
These are the core beliefs I have always had.
Bless you!!
Me too @@francisfischer7620
Thank you. In 12 minutes you showed the real path to Heaven. Many churches have not been able to do this for 2000 years.
I'm am a Cathar but we don't have a priest or godhead.
Brief , clear , beautiful and nursing! Wonderful! Thank you.
4:51 About scorpions and spiders… I believe we are meant to transcend the habit of projecting labels such as 'good' and 'evil' onto living beings. These distinctions are human constructs, not inherent truths. All life forms, regardless of their appearance or symbolism, are part of the greater whole. In this light, no creature can be purely 'evil' or 'divine' - they simply are, each fulfilling its role within the vast interconnected fabric of existence…
I wound up here after learning of my Huguenot, then my Cathar ancestry in France a few months ago. What’s amazing is that I have rejected Christianity at age 12 and have unknowingly been following the tenets of Catharism, all of them, as an adult. It’s a very overwhelming feeling and I’m very grateful this faith is still being practiced. Thanks for the video ❤
I'm glad to see them surface too. I agreed with everything he said.
I’m very much feeling in my heart. ❤ send me information about teachings. Thanks so much
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@@amarajeanine3976 info @ (the name of the page ending with .org)
I feel so peaceful with you, Thank you.
Great explanation in very clear and beautiful way ,well done Brother Borislav ,thank you
Thank you for these lectures and for helping me continue learning. I’m flattered to see a video of a lecture I did at the Theosophical Society posted below it. I had written a novel based on the little I knew at the time . (In the Time of the Cathar Moon) Researching the book gave me enough information to make me want to learn more
I had a dream before watching this video that I was in a dark hole in the earth but that I was so comfortable there, it was warm. I chose to be there and I was able to read a book and do the task I was sent to do in this darkness. I was in the dark with a man and we were both connected to the stone of the earth. The dream was that feeling of being in a womb of the earth. I have many things starting to connect and happen now in waking life and dreams. I know more is coming.
Oh my goodness! How beautiful! How moving!
womb of the earth. thats interesting since the earth is like a womb being covered by a dome being under water.
I believe all this.
Well, it can only means that you’re pretty much a Cathar, or in other words just a normal adequate believer
Are there any Cathars left in the world and where are they today?
@@Esther-m7s here we are! get in touch with us
Thank you
I think I was a cathar in another life, I know how it sounds.
Fascinating!
They’re just simple basics for a beginner to start with
Thank you. Not wishing to be rude Im wondering why the Cathars eat fish rather than being fully vegetarian? Do you also eat eggs? 2. Do Cathars have weddings and devorces, if so how does a Cathar wedding look Cathar vows, dress, wedding foods 🤔 rules of conduct for married couples. Do you have a lot of children or do you usualy have just 1 or max 3 ? Do you home school the children maybe ? Id really like to hear back on these questions from day to day life and special landmarks in life. Births, birthdays,major holidays etc . Thanks again.And I'm Grateful for anyone who cares to comment on these queries ❤❤❤
Thank you for your questions. Hopefully we will answer all of them in future videos. May peace upon you!
Oddly, the people of the middle ages did not think fish were living creatures in the way we do now. Peculiar. But it was by no means unique to the Cathers.
Hi, interesting questions. From what I have read, Cathars practised celibacy and did not
support sexual intercourse. The prefects would not consume any animal products derived
from sex, such as flesh, eggs, and dairy. They would however consume fish because it
was not made through sex, just thru egg and sperm. I think non-prefects would eat
anything from animals, but I am not positive about this. Sadly the Roman pagan church
burned Cathars books and writings. I find it interesting that the diet had rules relating to
sex, not the sentience and right to life of the animal/fishes. I write as a whole food
ethical vegan for many years.
Thank you. ..I have eaten a Vedic vegetarian diet all of my adult life. We don't eat anything derived from blood or sperm. I've read that the monks where I come from ( N I reland,near St Patricks burial place /Downpatrick) The local monks lived on herring and oats back then. Not sure why ?
Didn't know you guys still existed.
Well, there’s a promise: After 700 years the Cathars will come back and the Laurel (flourishing kind civilisation) will become green again
I have some questions if you don't mind answering them after the albigensian crusade did cathars go extinct before eventually coming back or was there always a small underground movement since the crusade? Did women in the Cathar movement historically dress more modest or at least on certain occasions? And what is your opinion on homosexuality? I won't be offended if you believe that it is a sin.
I would love to hear your creation story
My god finally found a religion that makes sense
Check 'Golden rosycross' , its a school that United the cathar teachings from the last Cathar patriarch.... With the rosicrussion teachings from the alchemists of the 1600. Its all over the world. Its a beautiful path :)
Same brother
Actually there are many contradictions in this religion
Indeed!
@@2211_ib OK, so lets hear the details
Where can I read John bogomils books ?
Q: What created evil?
Or is it an eternal duality of good and evil? Or of a Good Being (God) and a Bad Being (Devil)?
Profoundly and Humbly ,Proudly Divine...,!!! My humble gratitude for your "sharing" all that you are and do. Thank you...!!! Father John of The Holy Spirit, SOL, AKA. Padamasambhava:. Non-Sectarian in this incarnation. Founder and Director of The Ecumenical Trust and Foundation.... Namaste and Pranam...!!!
hi borislav. i hope you are well. its nice to see this production. please give my love to your wonderful mina and myrophorra xxx
Celestial Fortuna sure
Here is a probably common question, what is your dogs name, and is he a good boy?
Could you post some pieces of your prophet so that we can get a sense of him or his inspired word?
I am trying to send this to someone whose grasp on English is weak. Would be great for a subtitle.
These principles have been written on my heart. Everyone around me is Christian and I just found out about the Elohim the story of the house of Jacob choosing one of them to worship. That is not what I am about.
I am understanding that our earth has been parasited by the El. And I want no part in it.
Please help. As a little girl I would always ask myself why am I here, and Who am I.
Hello! In what part of the world do you live??
These ideas are true for all true religions
Not true. The Cathars believed that the god of this world is evil and his name is Rex Mundi and that the goal of life was to escape him. Look it up. This guy doesn't know basic history. Research Gnosticism.
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everything checks out but "God speaks through John Bogomil."
I don't like it.
That's religion for you - stems from some guy who thinks he's got 'the' truth and you should follow what he says because afterall it's from god... Had to laugh at poisonous snakes not having a divine nature, what bollocks!
I Notice That The Inner Sanctum, Has an Iron Gate… YOU REMEMBER
Mother Goddess has been Called Sophia but some, Maré/ Mary by Others, and Even Inanna…
I can agree with 4 of the 5. But if you referring to Yahweh as your God, I’m out. Yehwey is the most violent and unloving God that could be.
First of all let’s congratulate you on you agreeing with 80% of Cathar beliefs. Secondly, we definitely don’t accept Yahweh as God, and it is clearly explained in other videos on our channel.
Thank you. I read briefly about your past, and it alarmed me to know what Catholics did. I am more interested than ever.
Hearing is better than reading.
I do remember a yellow cross. Do you use a yellow cross, or was it a force sign like a yellow star on Jewish clothing.
Do Jews use the yellow star today? C’mon, you know the answer
@TheCathars I guess it was obvious to you, but I didn't know.
I am a descendant of King David in the Bible. I seriously am trying to find out the family names of the Cathars. I read that the Huguenots descends from Cathars. If you can post how viewers can do further study, please guide us to good sites.
Today is July 22, 2023
We know what happened on this day to Cathars 814 years ago.
@@maegardnermills4292 where did you read that the hugenots are/ were cathars?
the hugenots also fled to south africa to get away from being killed by the catholics.@@maegardnermills4292
Where can i find these volumes ? I would love to dive into it but I can only find 2 in english.. Please help.
I am Cathar.
Hmmm I might be a Cathar
A lady in Rome has recently been regressed back to a crypto "post-Cathar" community in Holland in the 1400's. For a full account, see the Hypno-Archaeologist by Philip Ditchfield.
And if you want to find the grail within your self cross your arms in front of your chest and feel that point of love within--not in your body. At some point God gives you the gift of discernment to feel Love within and soul couple with God. And there are other Cathar prophets still here.
Oh my!!
The Cathar's greatest expression of God is a Parfait. A perfected human.
Strange that our host does not see the evolving perfection around us. He seems to be thinking there is a supernatural God, which Gnostic Christians deny.
The Gnostic Christian reality.
Gnostic Christian Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all.
[And after they have reigned they will rest.]"
"If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.
If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.
Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.
[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.
But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."
As you can see from that quote, if we see God's kingdom all around us and inside of us, we cannot think that the world is anything but evolving perfection. Most just don't see it and live in poverty. Let me try to make you see the world the way I do.
Here is a mind exercise. Tell me what you see when you look around. The best that can possibly be, given our past history, or an ugly and imperfect world?
Candide.
"It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end.”
That means that we live in the best of all possible worlds, because it is the only possible world, given all the conditions at hand and the history that got us here. That is an irrefutable statement given entropy and the anthropic principle.
The demiurge is the rulers of this world, that is what cathars used to believe. Such as the cross is a symbol of earthly corruption
I think you'll find the demiurge created the earth and stands between man and his divine connection to the true god .
The cross is a symbol of victory over death. The worm in the apple is a symbol of earthly corruption.
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Why isn't John Bogomill giving this talk? Books are for selling....they are a business. Why classical piano playing... which is for his enjoyment?
Not true. The Cathars believed that the god of this world is evil and his name is Rex Mundi and that the goal of life was to escape him. Look it up. This guy doesn't know basic history. Research Gnosticism.
lol
He knows. You just have look at the others videos where they say these things. He has spoken before of Jehovah or Prince of this world, aka Rex Mundi and the displeasure of “matter” and the means to escape etc. it’s in the videos but keep searching and you will see. Good luck to you.
When you say world do you mean society?. I kinda consider this beautiful earth itself as a different thing. And can this goddess you speak of be the same as what they call mother Gaia/ mother earth. Sorry if I seem disrespectful I feel very drawn to the Cathars even tho I'm a spiritual seeker amd of truth, wisdom & knowledge
When we say this world we understand that in biblical words as Christ mentioned ‘the prince of this world’ (John 14:30). Everything which surrounds us is a mixture of evil and good including the nature in all its varieties of spices. There’s almost no perfectly divine example which doesn’t have at least a tiny amount of corruption in itself. Yet the task is to cultivate the good and separate good from evil. This is a true spiritual dualism.
Speaking of Gaia/Mother Earth. It’s not exactly what we mean when saying Goddess Mother. We worship the one and only God. However we approach God through the Trinity of God’s hypostasises: Father, Mother, Child (Holy Spirit is between them). It doesn’t mean that we see three different deities who are the council members. Not at all. It’s a very deep and wide concept of hypocrisy which we rather not explain it here in comments. Maybe will leave it for some other longer video, not for SMC.
@@TheCathars thank you for replying, this makes a lot of sense now. I'm looking forward to learning more in the future from this channel. I feel a strong connection towards this way of life
What were the Cathars really? What were their beliefs, really?
Frankly, we don't know! Everything we think we know is based on what the claims of their enemies! Enemies with the intent of erasing them from history. They confiscated and/or destroyed everything of Cathar origin they could lay hands upon. We only know of them from the Catholic record!
I'd just like the truth.
If you are a spiritual person at least a little bit you will not ignore such source of information as Revelation. Let’s not ignore that everlasting source
Wait, I read the Cathers believed that this world is inherently evil and that the God of this world is the good God and Lucifer. The goal is to get out of this enclosed creation.
Actually this is not quite true. Cathars never ever had such harsh approach to the visible universe otherwise they could not succeed in building that beautiful society in Occitanie they used to have until the crusades started. The only reasonable approach they had and still have is that this world was originally much pure and was invaded by the evil principles such as lust, lies, selfishness etc.
During the thousands of years the Earth got worse and worse same as people down to the point of being almost like hell. Following this approach the main spiritual aim for a dedicated Cathar is not to mortify himself but to reduce the fallen nature within his/her inner self and to help others doing the same.
This fatalistic point of view that the world is evil, everything visible is evil etc comes as well planned blasphemy created in the Church’s ‘think tanks’ in order to represent the good people as some kind of toxic fanatics. Unfortunately it seems like this stupid lie keeps migrating from one book to another including idiotic Wikipedia.
Of course we believe that you dear friend is not one of those who consciously spread the false accusations. We hope you are a seeker of the truth and you do use your common sense as a main instrument of your mind and soul!
What god is he talking about?
I have studied the Cathars, and this ain't it.
try harder 🤣
This is not it. Very fundamental flaw right up front.
@@hlholiday please explain clearly. what are your arguments that support your evaluation ?
@@pakhomioshavel8781 first problem is the charismatic leader - That immediately signals " cult" to me.
@@ThomasMolesky Do you love your parents?
Hello I have a question if god is love and good, how does evil exist then, and if god didn't created evil who created it? Thank you for your attention
This is too big question to be answered here in comments. Will try to make a video on this subject. Thanks for your interest
God gave us and the fallen ones before us free will. For love to be true love and truly reciprocal and to have a true relationship with each other you need free will.
It's said that the first sin was pride. This pride was the iniquity was found in lucifer. The first bad thought if you will. Which was not wanting to follow Gods will but be God.
We wasn't dual in the beginning but the fall whatever that alludes to changed us from what we was into what we are now capable of both good and evil.
For more thoughts on this topic John st juliens channel may be helpful. 🙏
It's pathetic that this video comes up number two in a search on Cathars.
We feel your pain, it is hard to believe that this video attracts any interest at all
you still exist?
Monad: the Good God(the divine spirit)
Demiurge: the corrupt God(Mother Nature)
Montsegur is a Stargate
BQQM
Nah .. Make believe you get clicks
Weren’t you guys wiped out in the inquisition? Please with the nonsense…godess mother
Didn’t your mother teach you not to be rude to unknown people?!
Catars are the old Albanian.
Don't be silly!
No thanks!
No need to mention that, keep scrolling down
I am cathar
I completely disagree, God is evil but God is the supreme positive energy in reality. Back in the beginning God woke up and realized it was alone, as Time moved on because time is event proceeding the next and even God is subjugated to the effects of time. I don't care who disagrees with me, God needs love and affection like we do and respect. This does not mean that any of our books accurately detailed what this being is, all I can hope is that moving forward we actually figure this out and give our creator what it needs. Also now I understand the concept of catharsis. Thank you.
This approach is not very original. It’s so called the offended boy or the Lucifer view: the cruel dad needs to be healed by more love. Not impressed
You lost me
New age bull crap
Thank you