Do you think you can make a video about Rachmaninoffs 2nd Piano Sonata? One of my absolute favorites. Thank you for your high quality analysis of this relatively unknown Nocturne!👌🏽
@@SonataSecrets Yeah, it is really an outstanding piano sonata, and I am also curious about your opinion on the two versions, 1913 original version and 1931 revised version.
Nocturne No.7 is even better and there's a nice piano roll of Faure himself playing it, recorded in 1910. Lots of valuable information, however the roll is not reproducing the rhythm correctly, speeding up over time. He also recorded No.3 in the same way.
Hi, can you confirm where in the piece the rhythm dotted crotchet quaver matches the triplet figures and where it stands alone as dotted crotchet over the triplet figure, please? Many thanks
Of course he was and daddy Nicolas Chopin was French and his actual family name probably was Chaud Pain (warm bread) and Frédéric spent his adult life for the most part in Paris (1831-1849, that killed him, I guess). As said in the video, "nocturne" means music of the night and Chopin was not the inventor of that concept. Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750) played concerts in outlets considered despicable in his time, like coffee houses, at night, and these were called "Nachtmusik" (German: nacht=night, musik=music). Then Mozart (1756-1791) wrote a piece called "Eine kleine Nachtmusik" (a little night music). I'm not German, but would not be surprised to learn one day that the German noun Nachtmusik is older than the use in music of both the French and Italian nocturnal adjectives. French nocturne, Italian notturno, got applied in the 18th century, but generally to ensemble pieces. AFAIK, the first to use the French word Nocturne for piano pieces was Irish pianist John Field (1782-1837), for pieces with a "cantabile" melody (generally right hand) over an arpeggiated accompaniment (generally the bass line). Cantabile literally means "singable" so in instrumental music is meant to remind us of a singing human. When Frédéric François (Fryderyk Franciszek ) Chopin (1810-1849) wrote his nocturnes (1827-1846, published 1832-1846 and posthumously) the term nocturne in music already had a range of meanings. For full transparency, Fryderyk Franciszek's nocturnes are the best, of course, in my opinion.
Fauré’s Nocturnes are often overlooked and are some of the most beautiful. Fantastic analysis. Thank you for putting this video together. Also, if I may ask, what is the make/model of the piano you’re playing here? I’m in the market for one and learning. There’s a pleasant clarity and color to the tone in yours.
Wrong note at 33:15. It's B sharp in the 4th chord,, not B-natural. The B-sharp is the accidental written in the beginning of the measure, and is only canceled by B-natural in the 5th chord at the end of the measure.
The insane chromatic mediant between A and C with the major 6ths in the C sections intro is so strikingly godtier. I suppose you could also think of them as minor 7ths and I love to use chromatic mediants with minor 7ths. I had no idea there was a Db Bø D Ab11(omitted 9th) Am(with the #11) to B7 in there towards the beginning of the piece the first time I heard it. There's so many reasons why that's genius. First of all Faure is the first composer before Schoenberg I've found who uses the slide transformation (I thought parallel 5ths were frowned upon for the longest time in traditional western practice?? That's probably why), which is embedded between the Db and Bø and obviously also in the Ab and Am, since the Bø has an embedded Dm it also creates a picardy third going to the D, the third of the D is a common tone to the 7th of the Ab11 and also D and Ab major chords are a T6 transformation which is one of the godliest triadic chord progressions ever, so much so that the composer couldn't help but write it for the moment where Morgan Freeman tells Bruce he's God in Bruce Almighty, Having a #11 in a minor chord is such a wonderfully ugly sound, it also opens Hannes Grossmann's brilliant masterpiece song The Radial Covenant which is why I lovingly refer to it as "The Radial Covenant Chord" and of course even with the Am as the predominant iv to finally returning towards the tonal center of E major going to B7 then E, that relationship between iv and V on its own, and sometimes playing them in reverse order, is fascinating to me even despite its omnipresence in harmonic and melodic minor pieces. Because, at the end of the day, the major V always was a borrowed chord that was never in one of the "natural" minor modes like dorian or aeolian, obviously to get that leading tone. But in isolation it can be brilliant in other contexts. Thank you so much for this breakdown thats such a godly progression. He somehow manages to make all the intense modulations sound so smooth and natural, whereas when I compose I prefer them to be dramatic and blatant more like the C section's intro. If anyone is reading this (doubt it) and can recommend me any music in any genre that strings together things like slide transformations, picardy thirds, major tritone transformations, and V going to iv instead of the other way around (although it doesn't have to be in a "functional harmony" context) Id be indebted to you forever. IN LAYMANS TERMS music that constantly modulates in powerful and unexpected to the ear ways where its dramatic but you can never tell what the next chord is, while still being rooted primarily in triadic harmony. I CONSTANTLY seek out this kind of music and Im such a nerd about it and I feel so lonely a lot of the time to not be able to have these conversations with others :( :( :(
Speaking of nocturnes, I'm working on polishing Chopin's nocturne Op 27 no 2, would love to see an analysis of this one as well. Awesome video as usual 😍
@@SonataSecrets Would be cool. A good argument can be made it's his best piece and almost unquestionably has the best ending of any of his pieces...in my opinion
As a classical singer and frustrated pianist, I've listened to this nocturne many times on my car stereo which I especially enjoy for the surround sound effect in my car. Beautiful scenic views, of course, enhance the experience since I live on the northern coast of California. Thanks for reminding me of beauty of this fine piece of literature.
You're doing an awesome work. My sincere thanks and love. ( A video request, if you can please do a video on Beethoven's sonata in E minor, no 27, op 90)
He didn't "coin" the term. He basically invented the form of a romantic piano nocturne that Chopin was directly inspired from. Sure, there existed the word "nocturne" (notturno) as a musical form before, but it was not even at all the same type of work, more so just a serenade.
ciara respect You didn't say form or term. What you said, "coined the word", means he just put the name to it, but he didn't just do that, he invented the form.
@@kasiphia actually to "coin" a phrase means to put a new slant on the existing word, using the descriptor "just" is quite derogatory. Inventing the form for Chopin etc to follow is genius. I play all those and they're beautifully crafted.
ciara respect Yes, but he didnt just notice a new slant to the words meaning, he *made* the slant, inventing what we know as a nocturne to this very day. For example, Fred Hoyle is said to have "coined" the term "Big Bang", that doesn't mean he developed the theory, just that he a put a name to it. No matter what you say, John Field did more than just "coin the word nocturne", he basically made the form we know today. I'm glad to see you finally give him some credit at least, as he is rarely given any.
You are almost as good a musician as Cardi B or even Nicki Minaj! Vlado Perlemuter was the first performer I heard play this. I always loved Pascal Rogès Faure pianism but he never recorded this to my knowledge. Beautiful playing. I would love to hear your recording of it! Wonderful channel. I’m here to stay. So tragic music is where it is today. Fierce evidence we are devolving and astonishingly rapidly.
Yea A lot like that. It has a lot of promise on the first page and a half but then goes into mush like a lot of faure pieces Probably why he's never became as popular as the real greats
I like Faure a lot and have always had a major soft spot for the Ballade, Dolly Suite, and some of the other piano music. That said, it often does have that feeling. It's like the music gets too wrapped up in the harmonic inventiveness that it stalls out.
Excellent analysis and thank you for introducing the world of Faure’s music to us!! All the best Henrik!!
Always loved the harmonic ideas of Faure. A true master of the language.
Do you think you can make a video about Rachmaninoffs 2nd Piano Sonata? One of my absolute favorites. Thank you for your high quality analysis of this relatively unknown Nocturne!👌🏽
I love that sonata, but I haven't played it myself (yet).
@@SonataSecrets Yeah, it is really an outstanding piano sonata, and I am also curious about your opinion on the two versions, 1913 original version and 1931 revised version.
I feel it needs to be slower to reflect the "Adagio" indication.
Great program!
Sounds like Chopin on a bad day. Not the biggest fan of his music personally. Has some nice qualities but very odd.
great video as always, its a pleasure to see some Faure's analysis!
Nocturne No.7 is even better and there's a nice piano roll of Faure himself playing it, recorded in 1910. Lots of valuable information, however the roll is not reproducing the rhythm correctly, speeding up over time. He also recorded No.3 in the same way.
Can you analyse Liszt soiress italiennes please 🙏❤️
Great video ⚡⚡
C’est BEAUCOUP BEAUCOUP TROP VITE! Contresens sur Fauré.
Hi, can you confirm where in the piece the rhythm dotted crotchet quaver matches the triplet figures and where it stands alone as dotted crotchet over the triplet figure, please? Many thanks
Too fast for the beginning section. It needs to be more relaxed, less pushed.
I can hear angry polish people in the comments muttering something like Chopin jest Polakiem, kurwa!
Of course he was and daddy Nicolas Chopin was French and his actual family name probably was Chaud Pain (warm bread) and Frédéric spent his adult life for the most part in Paris (1831-1849, that killed him, I guess).
As said in the video, "nocturne" means music of the night and Chopin was not the inventor of that concept. Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750) played concerts in outlets considered despicable in his time, like coffee houses, at night, and these were called "Nachtmusik" (German: nacht=night, musik=music). Then Mozart (1756-1791) wrote a piece called "Eine kleine Nachtmusik" (a little night music). I'm not German, but would not be surprised to learn one day that the German noun Nachtmusik is older than the use in music of both the French and Italian nocturnal adjectives. French nocturne, Italian notturno, got applied in the 18th century, but generally to ensemble pieces. AFAIK, the first to use the French word Nocturne for piano pieces was Irish pianist John Field (1782-1837), for pieces with a "cantabile" melody (generally right hand) over an arpeggiated accompaniment (generally the bass line). Cantabile literally means "singable" so in instrumental music is meant to remind us of a singing human.
When Frédéric François (Fryderyk Franciszek ) Chopin (1810-1849) wrote his nocturnes (1827-1846, published 1832-1846 and posthumously) the term nocturne in music already had a range of meanings.
For full transparency, Fryderyk Franciszek's nocturnes are the best, of course, in my opinion.
Fauré’s Nocturnes are often overlooked and are some of the most beautiful. Fantastic analysis. Thank you for putting this video together. Also, if I may ask, what is the make/model of the piano you’re playing here? I’m in the market for one and learning. There’s a pleasant clarity and color to the tone in yours.
Very nice piece! Would you mind making a video analysing the prelude in g sharp minor from the second well tempered clavier by Bach? :)
Très belle présentation, à tout point de vue, merci !
Je suis d’accord
Merci beaucoup!
I can hear Brahms ballade...in the first section.
Excellent analysis,Henrik,thank you for the upload.
Wrong note at 33:15. It's B sharp in the 4th chord,, not B-natural. The B-sharp is the accidental written in the beginning of the measure, and is only canceled by B-natural in the 5th chord at the end of the measure.
The insane chromatic mediant between A and C with the major 6ths in the C sections intro is so strikingly godtier. I suppose you could also think of them as minor 7ths and I love to use chromatic mediants with minor 7ths.
I had no idea there was a Db Bø D Ab11(omitted 9th) Am(with the #11) to B7 in there towards the beginning of the piece the first time I heard it.
There's so many reasons why that's genius. First of all Faure is the first composer before Schoenberg I've found who uses the slide transformation (I thought parallel 5ths were frowned upon for the longest time in traditional western practice?? That's probably why), which is embedded between the Db and Bø and obviously also in the Ab and Am, since the Bø has an embedded Dm it also creates a picardy third going to the D, the third of the D is a common tone to the 7th of the Ab11 and also D and Ab major chords are a T6 transformation which is one of the godliest triadic chord progressions ever, so much so that the composer couldn't help but write it for the moment where Morgan Freeman tells Bruce he's God in Bruce Almighty, Having a #11 in a minor chord is such a wonderfully ugly sound, it also opens Hannes Grossmann's brilliant masterpiece song The Radial Covenant which is why I lovingly refer to it as "The Radial Covenant Chord" and of course even with the Am as the predominant iv to finally returning towards the tonal center of E major going to B7 then E, that relationship between iv and V on its own, and sometimes playing them in reverse order, is fascinating to me even despite its omnipresence in harmonic and melodic minor pieces. Because, at the end of the day, the major V always was a borrowed chord that was never in one of the "natural" minor modes like dorian or aeolian, obviously to get that leading tone. But in isolation it can be brilliant in other contexts.
Thank you so much for this breakdown thats such a godly progression. He somehow manages to make all the intense modulations sound so smooth and natural, whereas when I compose I prefer them to be dramatic and blatant more like the C section's intro.
If anyone is reading this (doubt it) and can recommend me any music in any genre that strings together things like slide transformations, picardy thirds, major tritone transformations, and V going to iv instead of the other way around (although it doesn't have to be in a "functional harmony" context) Id be indebted to you forever.
IN LAYMANS TERMS music that constantly modulates in powerful and unexpected to the ear ways where its dramatic but you can never tell what the next chord is, while still being rooted primarily in triadic harmony.
I CONSTANTLY seek out this kind of music and Im such a nerd about it and I feel so lonely a lot of the time to not be able to have these conversations with others :( :( :(
yeah...that is one I like most about Faure's works, and I ever told my crush the one I love the most, this piece is pretty much like her.
you're awesome
Merci pour fauré
Thx for your inspiring analysis. An analysis of César Franck: Prélude, Choral et Fugue for piano would be great💥💫👌
Speaking of nocturnes, I'm working on polishing Chopin's nocturne Op 27 no 2, would love to see an analysis of this one as well. Awesome video as usual 😍
hehe, speaking of Nocturnes IN D FLAT MAJOR even! Maybe in the future, I have it on a list...
@@SonataSecrets Would be cool. A good argument can be made it's his best piece and almost unquestionably has the best ending of any of his pieces...in my opinion
Garrick Ohlsson gave a pretty good analysis of that nocturne at his talk at Berkeley
Very nice interpretation. I must lean more toward Chopin for his intricicies and modal use of the native key. Quite beautiful, however.
Hello Henrik! Great music, and love the new set up you’ve got going!
As a classical singer and frustrated pianist, I've listened to this nocturne many times on my car stereo which I especially enjoy for the surround sound effect in my car. Beautiful scenic views, of course, enhance the experience since I live on the northern coast of California. Thanks for reminding me of beauty of this fine piece of literature.
The requiem of Fauré is one of my favorite! It is plaid every year in the Madeleine church in Paris,
You're doing an awesome work. My sincere thanks and love. ( A video request, if you can please do a video on Beethoven's sonata in E minor, no 27, op 90)
Apparently the Irish man John Field coined the word nocturne for his piano pieces first
He didn't "coin" the term. He basically invented the form of a romantic piano nocturne that Chopin was directly inspired from. Sure, there existed the word "nocturne" (notturno) as a musical form before, but it was not even at all the same type of work, more so just a serenade.
@@kasiphia OK Mr or Mrs pedantic. Basically? Are you a first grader.
I obviously meant form not term. You got me :)
Notturno. Serenade or divertimento
ciara respect You didn't say form or term. What you said, "coined the word", means he just put the name to it, but he didn't just do that, he invented the form.
@@kasiphia actually to "coin" a phrase means to put a new slant on the existing word, using the descriptor "just" is quite derogatory. Inventing the form for Chopin etc to follow is genius. I play all those and they're beautifully crafted.
ciara respect Yes, but he didnt just notice a new slant to the words meaning, he *made* the slant, inventing what we know as a nocturne to this very day. For example, Fred Hoyle is said to have "coined" the term "Big Bang", that doesn't mean he developed the theory, just that he a put a name to it. No matter what you say, John Field did more than just "coin the word nocturne", he basically made the form we know today. I'm glad to see you finally give him some credit at least, as he is rarely given any.
8:22 i was expecting so hard the resolution of the chord haha
tres grand merci pour cette video je vais pouvoir me lancer dans la partition
Thank you
You are almost as good a musician as Cardi B or even Nicki Minaj!
Vlado Perlemuter was the first performer I heard play this. I always loved Pascal Rogès Faure pianism but he never recorded this to my knowledge. Beautiful playing. I would love to hear your recording of it!
Wonderful channel. I’m here to stay. So tragic music is where it is today. Fierce evidence we are devolving and astonishingly rapidly.
hahaha
We do what we can.
Weird piece tbh. Feels like it never really goes anywhere 😕
Yea A lot like that. It has a lot of promise on the first page and a half but then goes into mush like a lot of faure pieces
Probably why he's never became as popular as the real greats
I like Faure a lot and have always had a major soft spot for the Ballade, Dolly Suite, and some of the other piano music. That said, it often does have that feeling. It's like the music gets too wrapped up in the harmonic inventiveness that it stalls out.
Welcome to modernism
@JawadHamadani lol
Why the metronome mark is not followed? Its supposed to be Adagio but it feels very animato.