@@zillsburyy1 the shine is what I think suits this watch better..to make it a true competitor of the no-date sub..let’s face it, most people not gonna buy a watch at this price range to treat it like a daily wear tool watch..the Tudor BB41 Monochrome works, because it’s at the price range that is easier to swallow for a daily wear watch
It will never be as small as 39 or 40mm because it doesn’t need to be. The original 1993/4 SMP was 41mm and bloody perfect so they won’t go my smaller. They just need to listen to people who actually wear them and understand how important a smaller bracelet is for comfort. This trashy Milanese junk is too big for most wrists anyway. Rolex are welcome to my money, at least they respond appropriately to what people tell them.
LOL! When I logged on to UA-cam to upload this, Adrian’s video popped up! I only read the title, and thought “wow. We have very different thoughts on this” 🤣🤣
Lazy release. Still too big, too thick, power reserve is lackluster, and now it's $7,000. Omega has substantially increased the price without increasing the quality of the product.
Absolutely spot on - I literally just commented on an omega subreddit post saying the bloat has simply sized out people. Bring back a 38mm mid size and they’d make bank!
Right?! I think Tudor has been a great test for this. The BB54 - 37mm. Incredible success! BB58 - 39mm - success! And having the BB 41mm METAS - success! I’d be so curious to see their numbers to see which sells the most! 🤔 But yeah - the other big factor is: coaxial thickness. I think the thickness could be awkward on a smaller case size?!
Agreed, I have a 7.75 inch wrist so theoretically it should be spot on, but I sold my Seamaster and replaced it with a 39mm Pelagos. Couldn't be happier with it, unlike the Seamaster that just felt cumbersome.
These look great but making them more expensive than the other seamasters leaves a bad taste. I’d be fine if they were priced the same, but to charge more for these is kind of insulting.
Compared to the 007 titanium watch that established this language for the Seamaster collection, my first reaction was actually 'ohh these are priced reasonably'… and it’s the first omega I would actually consider buying (the black one).
They should just take the current SMP300, add a slight bracelet taper from 20mm to 18mm, reduce case size to 47.5 lug-to-lug (or less), no date, no red accents. That's it, that's the perfect SMP right there, that's all they need to do.
Owner of the NTTD here - Love the black one. I tend to gravitate toward simple and vintage inspired looks, so this nails it. I haven't had any issues with the aluminum or the bracelet. That said, the Omega Boutique ordered the smaller length band for me which made the wearing experience so much better. There are so many reviews out there that don't advocate to get the proper strap length so anyone that is interested in the Omega mesh, ask to get the small length with yours if you don't have a large wrist. Love all the content Britt! Keep it up!
@ you are so welcome! The strap and wearing experience is delightful with the right length strap! Here’s a tip for everyone - The extra length of the mesh with the riveted holes should be shorter than the length of deployment clasp when it’s worn. In other words, some of the deployment clasp should be exposed directly to your wrist. Anyone who’s wraps around the inside of the wrist where the length of the inner mesh exceeds the length of the deployment clasp is a candidate for a smaller length bracelet. I hope that makes sense… hard to explain without pictures 🤦🏻♂️
Exactly the same for me with the NTTD the smaller size bracelet fits a lot better on the underside. I have a 7inch wrist and it works well with the smaller size, no excess bracelet fold
You’re not being too harsh! You are totally on point. Omega could have done more, I’m sure they know what we want but all they have done the last two years is release different colour ways etc of the same model. The only one benefit I see to these new models is that a lot of the thickness is in the domed sapphire crystal. I probably still wouldn’t buy one cos I def think it’s a down grade with a price increase! I have tried on the mesh bracelet from omega as well and the other problem with it is that the holes are spaced too far apart and therefore the fit isn’t good either. I’ve got the current standard black model and the neo vintage electric blue in 36mm and I’ve just bought non omega mesh bracelets for both of them and they work great.
And that’s why Rolex and Tudor are the best. Both give you a great overall experience in all their watches. Rolex has timeless designs, amazing bracelets and everything that can move just feels top notch! Tudor is great for listening to their audience and coming with a banger each year, for great prices! And their bracelets have improved a lot! Omega just isn’t there in terms of overall watch experience. There is always something: bracelet sucks, fit on the wrist is bad, bezel action feels cheap etc. Only the speedmaster is an Omega worth buying, an absolute killer watch!
I need color in my life. I'm sick of monochrome. I don't need much. Just a splash of red or yellow and maybe slightly off white lume. Something to break up the monotony and add visual excitement. A perfect example is the 2254.50 you mentioned. At first glance it is monochrome but the second hand has a red tip and the indices are ever so slightly green tinted, even in Omega's product shot.
Counter point to the price argument, the black version that was released is basically the same as both Bond SMP 300s which both charge crazy prices ($8300/$10000 vs $6500. So if you always wanted a NTTD or the blue 60th Anniversary model for its more vintage dial, lumed aluminum bezel or the mesh bracelet, you now can buy the black version for way cheaper.
Thanks Britt! I pretty much agree with you on every point. The unnecessary price hike seems especially annoying. Keep calling for smaller 300s, and maybe someday Omega will listen. I like Milanese bracelets in general because it's easy to get a perfect size fit, but I don't have a small wrist, so I can understand your issues concerning comfort. My personal nitpick is that I don't like raised numerals (or anything raised really) on bezels. But that's just me.
It was a fair assessment of the new Omega SMP. I own the NTTD, so I’m used to the Milanese bracelet and enjoy it due to its tool-less self adjustability. Although I would like to see a way for it to have micro-adjustments like the Rolex and Tudors for in between slots. I love the Al bezel, like you said, that means it will age and patina with time. I think this new SMP is the closest to a Rolex MilSub with its fully-graduated Al bezel. The HEV isn’t going away because it is now becoming an Omega identifiable feature. If they make a version with Fixed Lugs, this will be a true MilMaster. They already have “unit” SMP for military and law enforcement units, so having those specific features would be awesome. One thing is that they need to bring back the old school “Gladiator” hands for ease of visibility under low-light with more lume materials on it for night time use as well. However it baffles me that this is thicker than the date version… My NTTD SMP is still “THE” most accurate self-winding watch I own. I record my accuracy everyday with my watches. 5.5 seconds gain in the last 30 days total, meaning +0.2 sec/day for the last month. Even my new Tudor BB58 GMT, which is also METAS-certified, still have +2.5 to 3.0 sec/day. Still within specs of METAS, but my NTTD is super accurate. Cost-wise, I understand what Omega is doing. If they make this new one cheaper than their date-version, then their stocks for the date-version will plummet, because honestly the no-date is better looking due to its simplicity on the dial and with the Milanese bracelet. I know not everyone likes the M-bracelet, but it is better than the chunky 5-link bracelet even it is has “more” features like diver extension. I do agree with you on bringing back the 3-link bracelets from the past. Size-wise, I don’t mind 42mm for ease quick glance on the watch for tactical or low-light use. I have a 6.75” or 17.1mm wrist, so it’s no issue for me. 40mm is the ideal for wide spectrum versatility for most people. When I use my Tudor BB58 GMT, the “snowflake” hands are easier to see at night and limited visibility than my Omega, so I hope Omega is paying attention… Just another opinion, but keep up the good work!! Cheers!!
The Milanese bracelet is a big improvement over the 5-link, IF you have a big enough wrist: The NTTD model is one of the most comfortable watches I’ve put on, but the titanium helps too, in that case. I find this black model pretty darn appealing … the dial is a big improvement, too.
Totally agree with you. As much as I love the Sea Master design, it is too big for my 14cm wrist. As we all know, the watch market has been coming back down to earth with less hype. The Swatch Group probably needs to increase margins with higher retail prices and cheaper materials. Hence, the “lateral at best” updates.
If they added the spirate system I would consider buying the black one. The bezel is fully lumed which no one talks about. I see people are complaining about Omega Increasing the price without increasing the quality of the product. Hmm sounds like another brand I’ve heard of. 😂
Good review. Not for me. I like the old configuration ceramic/ liquid metal and a normal tapered down and brushed bracelet with a micro adjustment. In my opinion Omega Made a blooper with this configuration.
I’d be all for this if it was 40mm or smaller. I personally love the way it looks, love the look of the bracelet, and I love the grey dial. Just too big for my taste. I honestly believe if it was 40mm Omega would take not only Rolex Sub buyers, but also Rolex Yacht Master buyers as well.
I completely get it and I so agree with all of this! I think the only big problem is… coaxial. It adds a thickness that might be a bit awkward on a smaller case size?! Idk! If omega wasn’t married to coaxial - smaller would be PERFECT!
I love the look of the black one. Sure: I'd prefer it if it were 38-40mm, with date, and if it had a matte ceramic bezel rather than aluminium, bu the display caseback, dial, and more reasonable prices are all big pluses compared to the NTTD in my opinion. Unfortunately, the one thing that has actually stopped me from buying the NTTD is unchanged: the bracelet, and more particularly the clasp. I have Heimdallr's version of the NTTD, and though it's a big watch on my 155mm wrist it actually fits great, thanks to the bracelet being slightly thinner and the clasp being shorter and ore curved clasp than the Omega original. I think I could wear Omega's version if I got the shorter-length mesh, as it would put the clasp in a better position on the bottom of my wrist-but I can't find an Omega dealer who will order the shorter mesh for me to try on without my committing to purchase.
I look forward to picking one of these up for 50% off on the gray market in about four years
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The co-axial movement is a problem. Most people seem to praise it but I don't find that it brings any real tangible benefits. It is too thick, has a reduced beat rate, and still only has less than 60 hours of power reserve despite having two barrels and the aforementioned reduced beat rate. Other movements are getting 70+ hours of power reserve on a single barrel with the industry standard 28,800 bph and still coming in thinner.
So they took away a complication and made them MORE EXPENSIVE WTH?!?!?! These look 🔥though, should've made them 37-38mm. Bracelet looks like it pulls hair lol.
I think these aesthetically look great. As you said, they are a lateral move at best, but more expensive. Sigh. I do like them better on the rubber strap option, because I did not think the NTTD mesh bracelet was comfortable. I can't see a steel version improving on that. You had to show the 2254.50, which is a watch I really wish Omega would bring back.
These look so good. No AR on the outside of the crystal is good. That was always a deal breaker for me. It's become trendy to hate on the original five link bracelet but that thing is an icon. Hopefully this one will at least fit on the five link for those of us who like it.
I kinda miss the ceramic bezel and zirconium dial, but i like the case, deleted date display and bracelet. (And i love the deletion of the james bond graphic on the sapphire case back) I got myself a titanium no date longines spirit and i love that i don’t ever have to open the crown until months later to correct the time drift. I’m not looking forward to the patina on these. Maybe if they invented a truly matte ceramic bezel?
The Omega Seamaster 300M has been available in sizes from 36mm, to 41mm over the years. Same case design. My preference has always been for the 90s version in 41mm with blue wave dial and blue aluminum bezel. Simple. Elegant. Functional. Omega should go back to that. Make it available in 36mm and 41mm. Clearly there are people who want this, judging by the number of watch enthusiasts who are disappointed by the current offering. Watch sizes are retreating somewhat from the gigantic watch trend of recent. Omega can capitalize on that.
Hi Britt, Both new models are good looking. But Omega has missed the chance to get rid of the ugly and useless helium escape valve. And I also didn’t like the price increase for watches with no date complication and a cheaper bezel material. Best wishes, Claus
Right?! I feel like OMEGA - an incredibly esteemed brand with so many resources - can fix the design flaws of the mesh bracelet. I love it aesthetically! But it has some big flaws.
Love the black - pared back and classy. 42mm works well on these (better than 41 on the Sub) - size isn't absolute! A new SMP won't be far away and they'll introduce a smaller variant then - probably mid-size, while these move to 41.
Anything that deviates from the series standard becomes more expensive because it disrupts the regular process and makes it more "difficult". Different dial, strap, glass, bezel... Of course it's annoying but unfortunately it's a fact, regardless of the production. I think less would have been possible, on the other hand, you won't get a sub no date for the money, if at all just by waiting. And I think long-standing Bond fans, will be happy about the update. The rest can also confidently use the current black Seamaster Diver in ceramic and if they want a milanese band they can buy the rubber version and get the milanese band afterwards or in the boutique or online. I think they are great, i do not know what i think of the aluminium bezel yet i need to see it in person but that Titanium one is looking FINE AF with the details on the bezel. It makes the watch more special and unique. I think and hope that Omega is working on the Bracelets for the Divers to improve that but we can all agree that they at least listen to us costumers with their past releases this year. I think you are being a bit harsh but i get your point, you are just expecting MORE and so am i honestly but regardless i have to say they look really good as a kinda elegant sports watch with the milanaise band.
It is utterly mind boggling that it took Omega until (late) 2024 to get a no-date, aluminum bezel diver. This is a watch you'd have expected in 2001. (No, I'm not counting Bond watches).
I know it's a whole different tier, but I feel like I'd actually enjoy a Mido Ocean Star Tribute more than this for some reason? The bracelet looks milanese but is way more comfortable, 40mm seems more period appropriate and practical, and the specs otherwise are very similar. There's just nothing grabbing at my heartstrings about this design from Omega, even if I know it's the fancier one.
I agree on price rises, just like consistency. New Tudor FXD at £4k not £3.59k and I never see as much of an uproar... there was an explanation at least but just saying 10% more. The thickness is just the old watch with a domed crystal but agree it should of been the same size as the NTTD but then that's a closed caseback. Agree at least it should of been slimmer than the current Seamaster with a date function.
I see what you’re saying! My only pushback would be: the Tudor FXD had an added complication: GMT. So a different movement, different complication. I think price increase is justified. If it was the same watch for £400 more, trust and BELIEVE I’d be talking about it. 😝💕 even tho I do have a soft spot for Tudor! With OMEGA, you could argue that they’re using less premium materials AND charging more. If it was the same price I wouldn’t say anything. I don’t think it’s the end of the world! Just cheeky! 😝💕
@@MMAKnowledgeWinner.Undefeatedoh BLESS! Thabk you! I love making watch news videos! It’s so exciting when new stuff comes out! I love seeing what others are thinking and chatting in the comments!
@@BrittPearceWatches its a fair comment for the Tudor (I love Tudor too by the way). I was viewing this as a cheaper NTTD and yes I know that's thinner, in a movie and titanium... I am maybe fanboying since I love the new monochrome look (Video from Orcale Time have it in the metal!) and have a standard Seamaster. I often think buying a grey market Rolex Sub skews me to thinking any Seamaster is relatively affordable too.
Aluminum in a modern watch is a no-go for me, in addition to it’s gargantuan dimensions. This feels like a step-back at best, and a cost cutting measure at worst.
I've purchased other milaneze ss bracelets. You can get one for about 130. It looks like Omega, but it's not Omega. I have one for 25 without a retention clasp. I've nearly dropped the watch! Somehow my 6.25 wrist needs it. You never see one sold on ebay for instance. That may indicate that it is treasured by its purchers
I am considering buying a seamaster soon and like the smaller wave patterns and vintage style domed crystal, however dont need another monochrome watch atm. My Speedmaster Pro is best for those black and white leather jacket vibes and for spring/summer outfits I would like a splash of colour. Lets see if more colour options become available even though I doubt it. Then the original blue ceramic it will be, I guess? The 60th i find the weird lollipop seconds hand annoying (and it is double the price), the NTTD while cool also more of a field watch and heard not perfect legibility.
I like this latest version in black. What I like about the new Speedmaster FOIS is the size. I do wish these new Seamasters were smaller. They definitely would appeal to a lot more potential customers. The silver grey Seamaster here I don't care much for at all. It already looks dated and out of style. It also looks cheap in appearance. Not to be confused with inexpensive.
Surely they can look back at the peter blake era? Come on omega..40mm x 12mm thick, beautiful closed caseback, and affordable. Kind of.... those 2000s Seamasters were the best. Full stop
I own the 50th anniversary GMT which is very similar to the Peter Blake and I love it. However, most folks that rave about the Peter Blake either don't own one or don't want to pay the current price for one. With that being said why do many think it would sell at today's prices if they remade it? I also don't think that version sold more than the 93 bond version so aren't Omega just supplying the market with the more in demand version currently?
I love the gray diver.. well inlove the dial.. i dont like the wavey dial. But i wish the bezel was a different colour for some contrast.. but must say it all lacks novelty and innovation... Still looks decent on the black rubber
I've tried on the milanese NTD and it is not flexible at all. I'm in the meh camp on these as well. I've been through various colors of the 300 diver and now have the America's Cup. Even though this watch is large on my 6.3" wrist, I really like it. I have no issue with the helium escape valve.
I love the seamaster, and like some of the changes... but I wouldn't buy either of these variations. Having the mesh available on a standard model is cool, and no date I also like, 2 big plus points there. The titanium bezel looks really cool, feeling some yachtmaster vibes on that, but I would have preferred a wave dial texture rather than that brushed steel finish. The black on the other hand just looks a bit basic by comparison. But having now seen these and seeing the price... I'm staying committed to my next Seamaster being a No Time To Die
I have never liked the "Milanese" style bracelet on any watch. I like the 90s 9-link bracelet for a Seamaster, or a high end alligator strap. But, that's just me.
That’s the same titanium bezel that’s on the Nekton special edition SMP300 of 2022. I don’t mind it really it gives the watch a more uniform look but the gray dial might be too much.
Omega is using lots of different tech and materials, i like this idea that represents the expertise of a watchmaking company. You get lots of workmanship what no one is able to offer at this level of pricing.
Can’t beat the No Time To Die Seamaster. As someone with a small wrist, the mesh bracelet is nowhere near as bad as people in the reviews make it out to be.
Like the watch, but don’t like the look of the bracelet. I wish Omega changed the helium escape valve to a flush one, like other brands. As an Omega owner, I’ve been disappointed with some of their boring releases.
There is no watch that looks as beautiful in the case as a super ocean heritage. But when you put it on wrist that shark mesh is just kinda ,,, meh not my style
I wonder if the stock bracelet fits 🤔 They should’ve always offered the Seamaster with a no date option. I’m with you on the aluminium bezels, Definitely cooler over ceramic 🙂↕️
£6100 is still a very good price and if You think its steep, look at no time to die or 60th anniversary cost... 2-3k more. Also, Its OMEGA ! Its not meant to be a cheap Seiko or Tudor. It will turn more heads that some rolex watches out there.
I like it.....not for the price since it's no date and the bezel material, though. I think the best company that does mesh bracelets is Breitling B20 Heritage since it has a subtle way to resize it with no bulk underneath. The bullet strap is nice, too. But geez, Breitling. It's 2024 and none of your automatics have silicone hairspring for antimagnetism. I get it- Breitling is for sketchy people- but sketchy pro magnetic component?
I’ve got the NTTD the first thing I did was switch the bracelet for a titanium uncle its brilliant it has a very speedmaster look about it another option I believe would also be a better ascetic is a beads of rice bracelet .🍻
The leaked model (Daniel Craig again) is more interesting if it’s around $15k USD. If it’s closer to $20k then it’s starting to be overpriced. The bronze gold seamaster 300 is a little under 2x the steel version (but it doesn’t have the bracelet).
Another year has gone by, and Omega is still out here tinkering with every detail EXCEPT the one people want most - a redesign of the dated standard bracelet. Can't help but wonder if they are just trying keep this watching going by making small tweaks while using up stock of other components before a total redesign (thinner and/or smaller case?).
All the Seamasters are now too big for me. I have a blue dial mid size (the original one) and love it and until they release one with those proportions I couldn’t wear any others. The prices have gone nuts as well, I think I paid £1,400 for me retail 😂
i have the nttd bracelet, the optics are rad but the comfort not so much, it fits like a glove but it‘s somehow very rigid and i need to take it off after a long day. a leathers strap from mays berlin is much more comfy or a rubberstrap. the bracelets from staib (i think it‘s the maker of these bracelets) has very comfy milanaise bracelets in steel which have deployant clasps. would be my go to bracelets when ordering a new seamaster steel.
Maybe i am early enough to get a comment from Britt gringa her self.... I like them, however i see them trying to not outshine the NTTD but still ride some of its postitive points.
Yeah, I get it. Rolex can do no wrong, Omega can't seem to to it right...🤔...Personally, I love these two releases. No offence, but not everybody wears the milanaise on the tightest hole, and I think they've done it right. I wouldn't want the excess end to flop around outside...🤷🏻♂️
🤣🤣 DONT HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE WITH THE THINGS I SAY! 🤣 but for real - you’re right Hahahha. I am too fickle. I feel like OMEGA always gets 95% of the way there for me - but the 5% I just can’t get over! Like. The bracelet on these kills me.
@@BrittPearceWatches: Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't buy these. Less watch for more money seems a bad move. But I thought it would be more up your alley. I do like the domed crystal though.
The titanium bezel model looks a cross between the Yacht-Master wannabe Nekton and the recently discontinued, silver-dial Railmaster with James Bond milanese bracelet. It’s as if Omega used Colorforms to create this model.
im just not into the Seamaster, one of my cousins has one so i get to see it semi-often. I dont completely despise it, its a very beautiful watch im just not a fan of the dial and hour/minute hands they look so clunky.
I wish it’s a 39-40 mm, ceramic bezel, and improved bracelet instead of a mesh one
RIGHT?! same!!! Perfectly said!
ceramic is more scratch resistant buy it's shiny
@@zillsburyy1 the shine is what I think suits this watch better..to make it a true competitor of the no-date sub..let’s face it, most people not gonna buy a watch at this price range to treat it like a daily wear tool watch..the Tudor BB41 Monochrome works, because it’s at the price range that is easier to swallow for a daily wear watch
It will never be as small as 39 or 40mm because it doesn’t need to be. The original 1993/4 SMP was 41mm and bloody perfect so they won’t go my smaller. They just need to listen to people who actually wear them and understand how important a smaller bracelet is for comfort. This trashy Milanese junk is too big for most wrists anyway. Rolex are welcome to my money, at least they respond appropriately to what people tell them.
Thats what I wanted to comment here. I own a blue sm300, but i wish they produced a 39-40mm version of it.
Adrian Barker: Is this the BEST Omega Seamaster? 2024
Britt Pearce: NEW OMEGA Seamaster Diver 300 = DISAPPOINTING
LOL! When I logged on to UA-cam to upload this, Adrian’s video popped up! I only read the title, and thought “wow. We have very different thoughts on this” 🤣🤣
Barker is a twat
Lazy release. Still too big, too thick, power reserve is lackluster, and now it's $7,000. Omega has substantially increased the price without increasing the quality of the product.
Agree. Omega will hopefully be better in 2026 when they are releasing the new version with a 40 mm version.
You know! I hate to say it - but I agree with you here. I freaking love OMEGA but it’s becoming a bit much honestly
Agreed, I love the Aqua Terra but it’s a £5,000 watch maximum for over £6,000
And still $3k cheaper than a no date sub and probably even cheaper once the gray market settles.
Omega removed the date but kept the thickness and size. They could have made this less than 40mm.
Absolutely spot on - I literally just commented on an omega subreddit post saying the bloat has simply sized out people. Bring back a 38mm mid size and they’d make bank!
Right?! I think Tudor has been a great test for this. The BB54 - 37mm. Incredible success! BB58 - 39mm - success! And having the BB 41mm METAS - success! I’d be so curious to see their numbers to see which sells the most! 🤔
But yeah - the other big factor is: coaxial thickness. I think the thickness could be awkward on a smaller case size?!
Yeah why does it skip from like 36mm to 42-44mm? They're leaving so much money on the table
Agreed, I have a 7.75 inch wrist so theoretically it should be spot on, but I sold my Seamaster and replaced it with a 39mm Pelagos.
Couldn't be happier with it, unlike the Seamaster that just felt cumbersome.
These look great but making them more expensive than the other seamasters leaves a bad taste. I’d be fine if they were priced the same, but to charge more for these is kind of insulting.
Right?! I so agree! If they were the same price, I don’t think I’d even mention it. But the increase is cheeky.
@ cheeky is a way better way to describe how I feel about the price increase, well done on word choice💯
Compared to the 007 titanium watch that established this language for the Seamaster collection, my first reaction was actually 'ohh these are priced reasonably'… and it’s the first omega I would actually consider buying (the black one).
They should just take the current SMP300, add a slight bracelet taper from 20mm to 18mm, reduce case size to 47.5 lug-to-lug (or less), no date, no red accents.
That's it, that's the perfect SMP right there, that's all they need to do.
A taper wpi;d gp a LONG WAY! But I like the red accents ;) WHY NO RED?!
The black no date on rubber strap is phenomenal.
Owner of the NTTD here - Love the black one. I tend to gravitate toward simple and vintage inspired looks, so this nails it. I haven't had any issues with the aluminum or the bracelet. That said, the Omega Boutique ordered the smaller length band for me which made the wearing experience so much better. There are so many reviews out there that don't advocate to get the proper strap length so anyone that is interested in the Omega mesh, ask to get the small length with yours if you don't have a large wrist. Love all the content Britt! Keep it up!
Now THIS is really great to know! 😱😱😱 thabk you so much for leaving this comment and clarifying there are different sizes!
@ you are so welcome! The strap and wearing experience is delightful with the right length strap!
Here’s a tip for everyone - The extra length of the mesh with the riveted holes should be shorter than the length of deployment clasp when it’s worn. In other words, some of the deployment clasp should be exposed directly to your wrist. Anyone who’s wraps around the inside of the wrist where the length of the inner mesh exceeds the length of the deployment clasp is a candidate for a smaller length bracelet.
I hope that makes sense… hard to explain without pictures 🤦🏻♂️
Exactly the same for me with the NTTD the smaller size bracelet fits a lot better on the underside. I have a 7inch wrist and it works well with the smaller size, no excess bracelet fold
You’re not being too harsh! You are totally on point. Omega could have done more, I’m sure they know what we want but all they have done the last two years is release different colour ways etc of the same model.
The only one benefit I see to these new models is that a lot of the thickness is in the domed sapphire crystal. I probably still wouldn’t buy one cos I def think it’s a down grade with a price increase!
I have tried on the mesh bracelet from omega as well and the other problem with it is that the holes are spaced too far apart and therefore the fit isn’t good either. I’ve got the current standard black model and the neo vintage electric blue in 36mm and I’ve just bought non omega mesh bracelets for both of them and they work great.
And that’s why Rolex and Tudor are the best. Both give you a great overall experience in all their watches.
Rolex has timeless designs, amazing bracelets and everything that can move just feels top notch!
Tudor is great for listening to their audience and coming with a banger each year, for great prices! And their bracelets have improved a lot!
Omega just isn’t there in terms of overall watch experience. There is always something: bracelet sucks, fit on the wrist is bad, bezel action feels cheap etc. Only the speedmaster is an Omega worth buying, an absolute killer watch!
Higher price, less features, less premium materials, less date
I’d love to see a 40mm, thinner (even if closed case back), shorter lug to lug, and 3ish day power reserve.
But I love my 2531.80
Thanks. Britt! Don’t forget the domed sapphire crystal! 😊
Deleting the date works wonders on that black dial. It looks so much better balanced. Dislike the bracelet, though.
I so agree! It looks so good!
I need color in my life. I'm sick of monochrome. I don't need much. Just a splash of red or yellow and maybe slightly off white lume. Something to break up the monotony and add visual excitement.
A perfect example is the 2254.50 you mentioned. At first glance it is monochrome but the second hand has a red tip and the indices are ever so slightly green tinted, even in Omega's product shot.
Britt.... It's always about you! We could look elsewhere for watch reviews but, c'mon! You bring a special charm to the world of hourology.
Counter point to the price argument, the black version that was released is basically the same as both Bond SMP 300s which both charge crazy prices ($8300/$10000 vs $6500. So if you always wanted a NTTD or the blue 60th Anniversary model for its more vintage dial, lumed aluminum bezel or the mesh bracelet, you now can buy the black version for way cheaper.
Thanks Britt! I pretty much agree with you on every point. The unnecessary price hike seems especially annoying. Keep calling for smaller 300s, and maybe someday Omega will listen. I like Milanese bracelets in general because it's easy to get a perfect size fit, but I don't have a small wrist, so I can understand your issues concerning comfort. My personal nitpick is that I don't like raised numerals (or anything raised really) on bezels. But that's just me.
I feel like Omega provides less and asks for more with this one .
Right?! It hurts my heart a bit!
It was a fair assessment of the new Omega SMP. I own the NTTD, so I’m used to the Milanese bracelet and enjoy it due to its tool-less self adjustability. Although I would like to see a way for it to have micro-adjustments like the Rolex and Tudors for in between slots. I love the Al bezel, like you said, that means it will age and patina with time. I think this new SMP is the closest to a Rolex MilSub with its fully-graduated Al bezel. The HEV isn’t going away because it is now becoming an Omega identifiable feature. If they make a version with Fixed Lugs, this will be a true MilMaster. They already have “unit” SMP for military and law enforcement units, so having those specific features would be awesome. One thing is that they need to bring back the old school “Gladiator” hands for ease of visibility under low-light with more lume materials on it for night time use as well. However it baffles me that this is thicker than the date version… My NTTD SMP is still “THE” most accurate self-winding watch I own. I record my accuracy everyday with my watches. 5.5 seconds gain in the last 30 days total, meaning +0.2 sec/day for the last month. Even my new Tudor BB58 GMT, which is also METAS-certified, still have +2.5 to 3.0 sec/day. Still within specs of METAS, but my NTTD is super accurate. Cost-wise, I understand what Omega is doing. If they make this new one cheaper than their date-version, then their stocks for the date-version will plummet, because honestly the no-date is better looking due to its simplicity on the dial and with the Milanese bracelet. I know not everyone likes the M-bracelet, but it is better than the chunky 5-link bracelet even it is has “more” features like diver extension. I do agree with you on bringing back the 3-link bracelets from the past. Size-wise, I don’t mind 42mm for ease quick glance on the watch for tactical or low-light use. I have a 6.75” or 17.1mm wrist, so it’s no issue for me. 40mm is the ideal for wide spectrum versatility for most people. When I use my Tudor BB58 GMT, the “snowflake” hands are easier to see at night and limited visibility than my Omega, so I hope Omega is paying attention… Just another opinion, but keep up the good work!! Cheers!!
The Milanese bracelet is a big improvement over the 5-link, IF you have a big enough wrist: The NTTD model is one of the most comfortable watches I’ve put on, but the titanium helps too, in that case. I find this black model pretty darn appealing … the dial is a big improvement, too.
I love this!! The Ti is freaking great. I love the darkness of that watch. It’s so rich and lovely! I’m just jealous the bracelet is so bulky on me 😭
Finally, no date standard model! Black on rubber for me! I might prefer ceramics, but I would pay more and lose ceramics to lose the date.
Totally agree with you. As much as I love the Sea Master design, it is too big for my 14cm wrist.
As we all know, the watch market has been coming back down to earth with less hype.
The Swatch Group probably needs to increase margins with higher retail prices and cheaper materials. Hence, the “lateral at best” updates.
If they added the spirate system I would consider buying the black one. The bezel is fully lumed which no one talks about.
I see people are complaining about Omega Increasing the price without increasing the quality of the product. Hmm sounds like another brand I’ve heard of. 😂
Good review. Not for me. I like the old configuration ceramic/ liquid metal and a normal tapered down and brushed bracelet with a micro adjustment. In my opinion Omega Made a blooper with this configuration.
I’d be all for this if it was 40mm or smaller. I personally love the way it looks, love the look of the bracelet, and I love the grey dial. Just too big for my taste. I honestly believe if it was 40mm Omega would take not only Rolex Sub buyers, but also Rolex Yacht Master buyers as well.
I completely get it and I so agree with all of this! I think the only big problem is… coaxial. It adds a thickness that might be a bit awkward on a smaller case size?! Idk! If omega wasn’t married to coaxial - smaller would be PERFECT!
I love the look of the black one. Sure: I'd prefer it if it were 38-40mm, with date, and if it had a matte ceramic bezel rather than aluminium, bu the display caseback, dial, and more reasonable prices are all big pluses compared to the NTTD in my opinion. Unfortunately, the one thing that has actually stopped me from buying the NTTD is unchanged: the bracelet, and more particularly the clasp.
I have Heimdallr's version of the NTTD, and though it's a big watch on my 155mm wrist it actually fits great, thanks to the bracelet being slightly thinner and the clasp being shorter and ore curved clasp than the Omega original. I think I could wear Omega's version if I got the shorter-length mesh, as it would put the clasp in a better position on the bottom of my wrist-but I can't find an Omega dealer who will order the shorter mesh for me to try on without my committing to purchase.
I look forward to picking one of these up for 50% off on the gray market in about four years
The co-axial movement is a problem. Most people seem to praise it but I don't find that it brings any real tangible benefits. It is too thick, has a reduced beat rate, and still only has less than 60 hours of power reserve despite having two barrels and the aforementioned reduced beat rate. Other movements are getting 70+ hours of power reserve on a single barrel with the industry standard 28,800 bph and still coming in thinner.
they need to bring back the older thinner seamasters instead of coming out with a new one every two minutes
Sadly! If they remain married to Coaxial - they’ll never be thin again!
So they took away a complication and made them MORE EXPENSIVE WTH?!?!?! These look 🔥though, should've made them 37-38mm. Bracelet looks like it pulls hair lol.
I think these aesthetically look great. As you said, they are a lateral move at best, but more expensive. Sigh. I do like them better on the rubber strap option, because I did not think the NTTD mesh bracelet was comfortable. I can't see a steel version improving on that. You had to show the 2254.50, which is a watch I really wish Omega would bring back.
These look so good. No AR on the outside of the crystal is good. That was always a deal breaker for me. It's become trendy to hate on the original five link bracelet but that thing is an icon. Hopefully this one will at least fit on the five link for those of us who like it.
I kinda miss the ceramic bezel and zirconium dial, but i like the case, deleted date display and bracelet. (And i love the deletion of the james bond graphic on the sapphire case back)
I got myself a titanium no date longines spirit and i love that i don’t ever have to open the crown until months later to correct the time drift.
I’m not looking forward to the patina on these.
Maybe if they invented a truly matte ceramic bezel?
Like the Pelagos FXD 👌🏽
The Omega Seamaster 300M has been available in sizes from 36mm, to 41mm over the years. Same case design. My preference has always been for the 90s version in 41mm with blue wave dial and blue aluminum bezel. Simple. Elegant. Functional. Omega should go back to that. Make it available in 36mm and 41mm. Clearly there are people who want this, judging by the number of watch enthusiasts who are disappointed by the current offering. Watch sizes are retreating somewhat from the gigantic watch trend of recent. Omega can capitalize on that.
The Seamaster needs an overhaul from the ground up. - For a re-edition including a very nice mesh bracelet check out the Breitling SuperOcean 57.
Hi Britt,
Both new models are good looking. But Omega has missed the chance to get rid of the ugly and useless helium escape valve. And I also didn’t like the price increase for watches with no date complication and a cheaper bezel material.
Best wishes,
Claus
I have same opinion with you regarding the mesh bracelet. Omega should do better on how to improve that.
Right?! I feel like OMEGA - an incredibly esteemed brand with so many resources - can fix the design flaws of the mesh bracelet. I love it aesthetically! But it has some big flaws.
Love the black - pared back and classy. 42mm works well on these (better than 41 on the Sub) - size isn't absolute! A new SMP won't be far away and they'll introduce a smaller variant then - probably mid-size, while these move to 41.
One L video after the other. You called Rolex's boring and lazy release "genius", but this equally boring and lazy release is "disappointing"
Tell me your an Omega fanboy without telling me your an Omega fanboy 🤣
Cool new Omegas SMP300s. But, not what I (we) were entirely hoping for. Anyways... What else is good out there? Plenty.
So true!
Anything that deviates from the series standard becomes more expensive because it disrupts the regular process and makes it more "difficult". Different dial, strap, glass, bezel... Of course it's annoying but unfortunately it's a fact, regardless of the production. I think less would have been possible, on the other hand, you won't get a sub no date for the money, if at all just by waiting. And I think long-standing Bond fans, will be happy about the update. The rest can also confidently use the current black Seamaster Diver in ceramic and if they want a milanese band they can buy the rubber version and get the milanese band afterwards or in the boutique or online. I think they are great, i do not know what i think of the aluminium bezel yet i need to see it in person but that Titanium one is looking FINE AF with the details on the bezel. It makes the watch more special and unique. I think and hope that Omega is working on the Bracelets for the Divers to improve that but we can all agree that they at least listen to us costumers with their past releases this year.
I think you are being a bit harsh but i get your point, you are just expecting MORE and so am i honestly but regardless i have to say they look really good as a kinda elegant sports watch with the milanaise band.
Not having it in blue is crazy though. Blue is the look, and the bracelet should fit to the case, gaps are ugly.
It is utterly mind boggling that it took Omega until (late) 2024 to get a no-date, aluminum bezel diver. This is a watch you'd have expected in 2001. (No, I'm not counting Bond watches).
They also have the vintage 300 which was made in 2021
I know it's a whole different tier, but I feel like I'd actually enjoy a Mido Ocean Star Tribute more than this for some reason? The bracelet looks milanese but is way more comfortable, 40mm seems more period appropriate and practical, and the specs otherwise are very similar. There's just nothing grabbing at my heartstrings about this design from Omega, even if I know it's the fancier one.
The titanium bezel looks cheap to me. Has the texture of pot metal bezels on gas station watches.
Ummm, I'm pretty happy that they brought back the old school waves on the dial. That alone might be worth it!
I agree on price rises, just like consistency. New Tudor FXD at £4k not £3.59k and I never see as much of an uproar... there was an explanation at least but just saying 10% more. The thickness is just the old watch with a domed crystal but agree it should of been the same size as the NTTD but then that's a closed caseback. Agree at least it should of been slimmer than the current Seamaster with a date function.
should add I do love the channel and its my first go to for watch entertainment/updates!
I see what you’re saying! My only pushback would be: the Tudor FXD had an added complication: GMT. So a different movement, different complication. I think price increase is justified. If it was the same watch for £400 more, trust and BELIEVE I’d be talking about it. 😝💕 even tho I do have a soft spot for Tudor!
With OMEGA, you could argue that they’re using less premium materials AND charging more. If it was the same price I wouldn’t say anything. I don’t think it’s the end of the world! Just cheeky! 😝💕
@@MMAKnowledgeWinner.Undefeatedoh BLESS! Thabk you! I love making watch news videos! It’s so exciting when new stuff comes out! I love seeing what others are thinking and chatting in the comments!
@@BrittPearceWatches its a fair comment for the Tudor (I love Tudor too by the way). I was viewing this as a cheaper NTTD and yes I know that's thinner, in a movie and titanium... I am maybe fanboying since I love the new monochrome look (Video from Orcale Time have it in the metal!) and have a standard Seamaster. I often think buying a grey market Rolex Sub skews me to thinking any Seamaster is relatively affordable too.
Damn, I mostly would argue over Omega with you (haha) but this video, you are just hit right at it in every notch. I have no disagreement.
Ahha and I agree!! 😝💕💕💕🎉🎉🎉
Aluminum in a modern watch is a no-go for me, in addition to it’s gargantuan dimensions. This feels like a step-back at best, and a cost cutting measure at worst.
Lum may be lacking with the hollow hands?
I've purchased other milaneze ss bracelets. You can get one for about 130. It looks like Omega, but it's not Omega. I have one for 25 without a retention clasp. I've nearly dropped the watch! Somehow my 6.25 wrist needs it. You never see one sold on ebay for instance. That may indicate that it is treasured by its purchers
I am considering buying a seamaster soon and like the smaller wave patterns and vintage style domed crystal, however dont need another monochrome watch atm. My Speedmaster Pro is best for those black and white leather jacket vibes and for spring/summer outfits I would like a splash of colour. Lets see if more colour options become available even though I doubt it. Then the original blue ceramic it will be, I guess? The 60th i find the weird lollipop seconds hand annoying (and it is double the price), the NTTD while cool also more of a field watch and heard not perfect legibility.
I like this latest version in black. What I like about the new Speedmaster FOIS is the size. I do wish these new Seamasters were smaller. They definitely would appeal to a lot more potential customers.
The silver grey Seamaster here I don't care much for at all. It already looks dated and out of style. It also looks cheap in appearance. Not to be confused with inexpensive.
Surely they can look back at the peter blake era? Come on omega..40mm x 12mm thick, beautiful closed caseback, and affordable. Kind of.... those 2000s Seamasters were the best. Full stop
Yep , just like bmw back in the day too. 2000’s was peak
I own the 50th anniversary GMT which is very similar to the Peter Blake and I love it. However, most folks that rave about the Peter Blake either don't own one or don't want to pay the current price for one. With that being said why do many think it would sell at today's prices if they remade it? I also don't think that version sold more than the 93 bond version so aren't Omega just supplying the market with the more in demand version currently?
I love the gray diver.. well inlove the dial.. i dont like the wavey dial. But i wish the bezel was a different colour for some contrast.. but must say it all lacks novelty and innovation... Still looks decent on the black rubber
I've tried on the milanese NTD and it is not flexible at all. I'm in the meh camp on these as well. I've been through various colors of the 300 diver and now have the America's Cup. Even though this watch is large on my 6.3" wrist, I really like it. I have no issue with the helium escape valve.
I love the seamaster, and like some of the changes... but I wouldn't buy either of these variations.
Having the mesh available on a standard model is cool, and no date I also like, 2 big plus points there.
The titanium bezel looks really cool, feeling some yachtmaster vibes on that, but I would have preferred a wave dial texture rather than that brushed steel finish. The black on the other hand just looks a bit basic by comparison.
But having now seen these and seeing the price... I'm staying committed to my next Seamaster being a No Time To Die
Personally I love the look of the black one but they could’ve made a new bracelet! And more power reserve.
The silver one is a complete miss for me.
I have never liked the "Milanese" style bracelet on any watch. I like the 90s 9-link bracelet for a Seamaster, or a high end alligator strap. But, that's just me.
That’s the same titanium bezel that’s on the Nekton special edition SMP300 of 2022. I don’t mind it really it gives the watch a more uniform look but the gray dial might be too much.
Omega is using lots of different tech and materials, i like this idea that represents the expertise of a watchmaking company. You get lots of workmanship what no one is able to offer at this level of pricing.
Can’t beat the No Time To Die Seamaster. As someone with a small wrist, the mesh bracelet is nowhere near as bad as people in the reviews make it out to be.
Omega is moving away from what had made the SM300 so appealing.
Like the watch, but don’t like the look of the bracelet. I wish Omega changed the helium escape valve to a flush one, like other brands.
As an Omega owner, I’ve been disappointed with some of their boring releases.
I like the grey it would look fantastic on an admiralty grey nato or everest grey rubber strap. So tired of the helium escape valve on these though.
You know! I’ve kinda come around on the HE escape valve 🤣
@ I could never come around on the HE valve not after owning Sea dwellers and deep dive Superoceans 😉.
There is no watch that looks as beautiful in the case as a super ocean heritage. But when you put it on wrist that shark mesh is just kinda ,,, meh not my style
Haha! Snow is indeed, made of water! I quite like the grey, but for no date and £500 more? nah.
I pray that one day they give this watch a proper bracelet 🙏🏾
I wish it was 40mm or 39, new tapering bracelet with a new clasp with micro adjust, a closed caseback and a flush automatic helium valve
I wonder if the stock bracelet fits 🤔
They should’ve always offered the Seamaster with a no date option.
I’m with you on the aluminium bezels, Definitely cooler over ceramic 🙂↕️
£6100 is still a very good price and if You think its steep, look at no time to die or 60th anniversary cost... 2-3k more. Also, Its OMEGA ! Its not meant to be a cheap Seiko or Tudor. It will turn more heads that some rolex watches out there.
I like it.....not for the price since it's no date and the bezel material, though.
I think the best company that does mesh bracelets is Breitling B20 Heritage since it has a subtle way to resize it with no bulk underneath. The bullet strap is nice, too. But geez, Breitling. It's 2024 and none of your automatics have silicone hairspring for antimagnetism. I get it- Breitling is for sketchy people- but sketchy pro magnetic component?
yeah no at the price but I really like the light gray one
Right?! I don’t understand the price…?
I really love the black one.
Have a great weekend Britt :)
We have such similar tastes! Yes - black one all the way for me too!
I hope you have the best weekend! Any plans?!
@@BrittPearceWatches Working tomorrow sadly and on sunday doing some stuff at home, not the most fun weekend you know haha
I like the grey one but the looker will definitely be the bronze gold one with burgundy bezel that Daniel Craig was wearing.
Wish they could remove the helium escape valve and reduce the size of the numerals on the bezel.
And while I like the Milanese bracelet, I would like the lug pins to be curved instead of straight.
I’ve got the NTTD the first thing I did was switch the bracelet for a titanium uncle its brilliant it has a very speedmaster look about it another option I believe would also be a better ascetic is a beads of rice bracelet .🍻
The leaked model (Daniel Craig again) is more interesting if it’s around $15k USD. If it’s closer to $20k then it’s starting to be overpriced. The bronze gold seamaster 300 is a little under 2x the steel version (but it doesn’t have the bracelet).
Does this mean the Milanese bracelets are now available to buy for your existing SMP?
They have been for a while.
Another year has gone by, and Omega is still out here tinkering with every detail EXCEPT the one people want most - a redesign of the dated standard bracelet. Can't help but wonder if they are just trying keep this watching going by making small tweaks while using up stock of other components before a total redesign (thinner and/or smaller case?).
The thickness, the power reserve (should be 70hr) just not acceptable for £6k. Shame as I like the no date design, especially the black
Peter Blake is still the best seamaster to get in 2024, in my opinion!
My opinion is that omega should have gone all titanium rather than just the bezel. This would have justified an even hight price jump
All the Seamasters are now too big for me. I have a blue dial mid size (the original one) and love it and until they release one with those proportions I couldn’t wear any others. The prices have gone nuts as well, I think I paid £1,400 for me retail 😂
i have the nttd bracelet, the optics are rad but the comfort not so much, it fits like a glove but it‘s somehow very rigid and i need to take it off after a long day. a leathers strap from mays berlin is much more comfy or a rubberstrap. the bracelets from staib (i think it‘s the maker of these bracelets) has very comfy milanaise bracelets in steel which have deployant clasps. would be my go to bracelets when ordering a new seamaster steel.
I love the Paris 2024 seamaster, that is gorgeous!!
Maybe i am early enough to get a comment from Britt gringa her self.... I like them, however i see them trying to not outshine the NTTD but still ride some of its postitive points.
Yeah, I get it. Rolex can do no wrong, Omega can't seem to to it right...🤔...Personally, I love these two releases. No offence, but not everybody wears the milanaise on the tightest hole, and I think they've done it right. I wouldn't want the excess end to flop around outside...🤷🏻♂️
Would be better if it was similar to the Ploprof or used a butterfly clasp like the Patek Aquanaut/Nautilus etc.
7 months later:
"Omega 2024 releases were... GENIUS?"
You literally said you wanted a matte dial, aluminium bezel no date Seamaster in your last Seamaster video. And now it's meh? I really don't get it.
🤣🤣 DONT HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE WITH THE THINGS I SAY! 🤣 but for real - you’re right Hahahha. I am too fickle.
I feel like OMEGA always gets 95% of the way there for me - but the 5% I just can’t get over! Like. The bracelet on these kills me.
@@BrittPearceWatches: Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't buy these. Less watch for more money seems a bad move. But I thought it would be more up your alley. I do like the domed crystal though.
Could you talk about omega speedmaster 38 mm the blue one .thank you
Titanium bezel look like a Rolex Yachtmaster Platinium (exept bracelet)
No date, silver brushed dial, not too small: I’m starting to listen, Omega.
The titanium bezel model looks a cross between the Yacht-Master wannabe Nekton and the recently discontinued, silver-dial Railmaster with James Bond milanese bracelet. It’s as if Omega used Colorforms to create this model.
Omega triying to mimic Rolex just raising prices for aesthetics changes… boring!
im just not into the Seamaster, one of my cousins has one so i get to see it semi-often. I dont completely despise it, its a very beautiful watch im just not a fan of the dial and hour/minute hands they look so clunky.
This is what Omega should avoid. They should condense their lines and enhance like a much better bracelet and thickness.
I would like for Omega to bring back the Seamaster 300 GMT.
The bulkiness works with a suit especially when you are wearing a suit jacket