The best way to power your Sony FX30
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- I dig a little deep into USB-C Power Delivery, but for those newbies that just might be learning, I thought I'd talk a little more about that topic in this video.
This method has been working well for me, and hopefully it will for you too.
Cheers!!
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Exactly what I was searching for
Thanks for the video
You’re welcome! So glad it helped :)
So I guess you've never seen the Anton Bauer titan base battery that's specifically designed for the FX3 and fx30 that mounts directly under the camera and uses a dummy dtap battery. I use this one my FX3 and fx30 and works and fits better than any of these options you mentioned and it has the option for USBC power options as well
Very helpful. The guy at B&H didn't explain this option. I was about to spend quite a bit on a lesser solution. Thanks!!!
Glad I could help!
@@MarcusHutsell I discovered something. Just because a cable has USB-C connectors on both ends doesn't mean it will deliver enough power. I started the setup using a really nice short coiled cable I got with my gimbal - No charging bars. After some trouble shooting I isolated the problem down to the cable. With a different cable, everything works like a charm. Now I just need to find a short one that works. This might make a good follow-up video. Thanks again.
Btw amazing quality
Audio and video 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Thank you!
Awesome info Thank you, Buddy.
Isn't that 9.031V over limit for your camera? My OEM batteries say 7.2V but fully charged my multimeter says 8.42V. (so must be min/max safe) So I would think you would want to stay at 8.4V max with your methods. When used my multimeter on my SmallRig dummy battery it also was outputing 8.4v. I would think high end electonics can tolerate +10%V, but that is bad practice to stay at and leave no safe surge and is causing the camera chips to work harder to get inline with the max OEM rating. Also, I would always use a multimeter to verify V provided from sources not OEM because off brands can be too much and then you prevented a dead camera. And there's a risk trusting the quality of the power supplies also so don't get off brands. Some thoughts?
I just use a USB-C power bank that i can charge my phone with. Can run for hours. Its awesome
Yep!
I notice you can’t fully flip out the screen and tilt it down while using the usb port. Any way around that?
How long does the NPF battery last at full charge?
14:43 As you said, the camera's Expected Voltage is to be used. I mean, the voltage should not exceed the predicted value, so what happens if we use a 65-watt PD charger to power the Sony FX30 via USB-C? Will it affect the body?
Remember, voltage and wattage aren't the same. So using a "high wattage" charger won't hurt any of your USB devices....but let me try to explain it like this....
Each device needs a particular voltage, and THEN, once it gets that voltage, it will "pull" the total watts it needs....and those watts then count/deduct from the charger's overall wattage allowance/budget.
And, also remember that Voltage x (times) amperage = wattage.
So, let's say you have a Charger that has (1) USB-C Power Delivery port, and (1) USB-A Port that can do up to 5 Volts and 2.4 amps. And, let's say this charger has a total wattage budget of 20 watts.
Then, let's say I have 2 things plugged into this charger charger,.
In the USB-C Power Delivery Port, I have my Sony FX30. It negotiates the 9Volts it needs, then, it "pulls" 2 amps. 9 Volts x 2 amps = 18 watts. So, now we're using 18 watts of the total 20 watts available from this charger.
This leaves only 2 watts leftover for anything plugged into the USB-A Port. Then, if we plug in our iPhone to the USB-A port, most USB-A ports are only 5Volts, then the phone may only be able to pull .4 amps (which would equate to the remaining 2 watts......because 5Volts x .4 amps = 2 watts)....and this is because the FX30 is pulling 18 watts, and therefore the charger can only provide 2 more watts for its overall 20-watt budget. Which means the iPhone may charge slowly.
The charger itself may allocate the wattage-budget differently, sometimes it depends on WHICH device you plug in first, but this is just an example.......as the FX30 MAY NOT pull a total of 2-amps/18-watts, and then the USB-A Port where our iPhone is plugged in may actually be able to pull more than .4 amps.....so, maybe our iPhone pulls 1 amp so it gets a total of 5 watts (5Volts from the USB-A port x 1 amp = 5 Watts).....etc.
Either way, the WATTAGE budget of any charger won't harm your device.
The charger "adds up" the wattage being pulled by all of the devices plugged into it. And if the sum of all of the wattage of all of those devices is MORE than the charger can provide.......then one or each of the devices plugged in will either (1) take longer to charge or (2) just won't pull enough wattage to be able to NOT drain the battery while plugged in (like the FX30).
Does that make sense? I hope so.
@@MarcusHutsell Thank you so much for the detailed explanation.
If you use a npf plate for external battery, and a legit Sony fz100 inside the camera, do you have to use Sony batteries in the plate or can you use smallrig or neewer batteries?
You do NOT have to use Sony NPF Batteries on the external plates. There's no "smart" information passing from NPF Batteries to the plate itself.....so, I have, and use several brands of L-Series/NPF batteries. I have the "Power Extra" brand, some Neewer NPF batteries, "Indie Pro Tools," and even some Blackmagic NPF batteries, and some Smallrig ones too. Anything will work just fine.
Also, another commenter stated that the Smallrig FZ100 battery that goes INTO the battery compartment of Sony cameras will NOT give you the on-screen warning, and they're right! I just bought a Smallrig 4265B (FZ100 battery), and it works perfectly in my FX30 with no on-screen warnings, so that's a chepaer option, and one that I also feel is trusted. amzn.to/3TVcieO
Good luck!
What would be the best method if I were using the FX30 as a webcam? Since the USB-C port will be used to transfer video/audio to my laptop, trying to figure out the safest and most efficient way to keep the camera powered for multiple hours of usage. TIA!
Hey there. Great question because as you may have discovered… Using the FX30’s USB-C port to connect to a computer for webcam use…..the computer Usually doesn’t provide enough power over the USB-C port to keep the battery charged. I use my FX30 many days a week as my WebCam for Meetings and if it’s a long meeting or several meetings in a row… My battery definitely gets low if I am using a battery in the cameras battery compartment.
So, I also have this AC dummy battery adapter for FZ100 batteries/Sony cameras:
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Also, at my desk, I have a standard battery back up, like a cyber power or APC brand that you can pick up on Amazon or Best Buy, etc. And I have the Gonine AC dummy battery plugged into the battery back up so that if the power at my house goes out for any reason… At least the camera won’t shut off immediately. Currently I still get the battery warning from the camera using the Gonine AC adapter, but once I click through that warning, then the warning won’t come up again until I remove this dummy battery from the camera and then put it back in. So using the AC to dummy battery Adapter this way means I can stream with the FX30’s USB port all day long because the camera is getting its power from my wall outlet via the dummy battery instead of an actual battery
@@MarcusHutsell Awesome, thanks so much for the info! I assumed the dummy battery would be the best solution. When using the dummy battery, is there any risk of damaging the camera or over/under-powering? Just want to make sure before purchasing.
@nicoven94 as long as you purchase the right model for your camera that comes with the AC adapter and the proper FZ100 dummy battery, you should be fine. There’s usually a DC barrel detachment point where you can detach the dummy battery from its AC adapter…. just be sure you never plug in the dummy battery’s DC port to a different DC power source. Just keep the two together and you will be just fine.
@@MarcusHutsell Thanks so much man, appreciate all the help!
I use a Small Rig dummy battery to avoid plugin in/out on ports as much as possible (they are rated something like 10k times supposedly) . USBC can't quite keep up power so if you do that with a battery eventually the battery will die and USBC can't power it. So if you're just webcam for a little bit it doesn't matter. Over 1hr54m battery dies, but USBC supporting the battery would slow that to about 6 hours. So if you say, twitch stream 8hrs a day you'd want to go straight to a dummy battery. Also, those are hallow and helps with heat control; but fx30 never over heats and has a fan anyway. Sony did remove the door cutout for dummy batteries, they want to move away from this. I can't find out why; I think they don't want you using a dummy battery with USBC power because they would both stay at high voltage and that's probably a heat problem as it is harder on the device causing fan to stay on. Not a big deal but I would imagine the fan spin rating is not 10,000 hours and that's probably the weak point since this camera can go 13hr long recordings and they probably didn't design the fan to go 13hrs every day like you can do on twitch streams. But I don't know. However the cameras at Best Buy on display are all on dummy batteries 24/7 so I use that when on 6-8hr/day and its fine. Mine plugs into an outlet. Multimeter checked voltages and its 8.4 which is a new charged OEM battery.
i use the smallrig battery for fx30 with newest fw5.0 and there is no problem (emty batt icon) at all!!
This is really great to know! I'll have to try that battery.
Did you update the camera?
No link to the Anker??
Ah!! I forgot, I'll put it in the description but this is the one I use: amzn.to/4eSugqD