the way I see it, they wanted to make an anemo dps, but the devs realized there's 2 of them in the game already, and neither of them seem to capitalize on the main aspect of anemo that made it popular in the first place: swirl So they decided to experiment with the idea of having a DPS that relies on swirl as a reaction for damage
@@toxicfx_nuhaad9175 euh not really i just meant that they were experimenting with a multi element unit without them being broken cus imagine if they just released traveler that czn do hyperbloom on his own or later on when he has pyro applies hydro and vapes his hit that way it would kinda be broken so i think they are just testing thr waters
@@gubzs Thank god bennet gives flat attack. He's the f2p king, the only reason arlecchino white tassel works and using kinich with a low base attack like the craftable works. His weapon having so high base attack means that bennet benifits non whales more.
Bow in this game or in general game wise, shoots arrow and it is classified as 'projectile-based'. Guns are mostly classified as 'hitscan' which is the ammunition is not a projectile and hit target immediately upon firing as compared to projectile-based with the ammunition need 'flight time' to hit target. So Chasca's case will be classified as hitscan thus making some bows in genshin not workable with her.
Do you know if the viridescent hunt bow works with her then? I chose it from the battle pass thinking of her but I might be fooled lol. It says normal and AIMED shots Still this bow isn't ideal for her but I wanted to try it anyway
I have a theory that they're trying to move Chasca from Bennet to play in hydro+electro+pyro: - it's insanely awkward to lock her in circle to begin with - she gets a huge atk buff from atk sands + goblet - her weapon gives her another 24% - electro should be Ororon who gives 30% atk at c6. He's also great with Elegy (another 20% atk) and universal Heroes set buff - pyro I assume is Mavuika who is fans speculated to give atk% too - Idk who's the hydro here, probably not Furina since no healer, but maybe Kokomi with 20% atk from ToTM and 48% from ttds
@@microso9889 there's a icd of 1.5s or every other bullet and it's different between anemo and PHEC elements so for example with 2 different PHEC you'll load bullets in this order: 1 Anemo - 2 Anemo - 3 PHEC - 4 PHEC - 5 PHEC - 6 PHEC as the bullets are shot FILO (First In Last Out) the bullets 6 4 and 2 can trigger an elemental reaction. Her C1 is even stronger than it looks since it also change the 2nd bullet to Anemo so in the previous example you would have : 1 Anemo - 2 PHEC - 3 PHEC - 4 PHEC - 5 PHEC - 6 PHEC And bullets 6 4 2 and 1 would all be able to trigger an elemental reaction.
before I even bothered watching a how-to-build video, I finished farming like a 210 cv set for her and I low-key regret it now. I'm at like 50cr and 120er so I'll probably need to refarm, but I am not liking her teams and I don't like how her weapon is so far above the rest (I don't have any of the other options). I don't know if I want her anymore tbh, but I'm still really loving her design and I can't exactly use the pieces on anyone else. anyway, thank you so much for the video!!! really appreciate all the calcs!!
I like how, in addition to giving more versatility to teams by increasing their damage potential, it will consume less energy in C1, making it a great constellation to have for her. Depending on how relevant this is, I will go for it
I am very excited for her (already got way more than enough pulls) but those weapon charts really make me sad. I have a bunch of 5* bows but even the best of them is 30% worse then sig?! That's so unfair! Since I obviously save for the Archon as well I can't really afford to go for the weapon but that dmg% diff is absurdly high.
Atleast c1 gives a similar dmg buff + makes her teams more flexible. Although still reminds me of how wanderer is a mediocre character without c1r1 so would all anemo dps suffer this curse?
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@@Flames5237yeah, but that isn't his main role. He's just a support. We now have an actual DPS who deals mostly damage that's not their actual element.
Hi TGS! I'm actually wondering which team upgrade I should focus right now. I wonder if Xilonen C0 would be really important for an account or if I can just go target C1 Chasca when she comes out. What's your thoughs ? Is Xilonen really that much an upgrade to an acocunt (which would have already characters like Zhongli, Furina, Kazuha, Xianyun) or if I want to use a lot Chasca, I can just go for her C1 right now and wait for Xilonen rerun ? Thanks :)
getting chasca c0 and xilonen c0 would give you more value than chasca c1. she isn’t cryo so she won’t take a billion years to rerun so you’re safe going for Xilo and Chasca c0 and get c1 on rerun
thanks for your videos, i have 2 questions 1- her dps% while holding cinder city set comparing with the other sets 2- her team's dps% comparison while holding different sets including cinder city set.
3:28 i was actually thinking but wouldn't the 4p scroll be the best on her? she will gain all the dmg bonuses from the elements she reacts with, regenerate energy and well i think it will make the atk goblet have more value
It's typically in range with VV and it varies depending on the team. She won't be triggering nightsoul burst much so the energy refund is not super significant
How exactly are you going to ensure that you get all the buffs before you attack? You’re gonna have unbuffed bullets because you need to trigger reactions but to trigger reactions you need to use your main source of damage which is your skill or burst. Also I think the leakers said that even through the animations appear as if bullets are firing and moving after the actual damage and buffs are called when loading the magazine so even if you trigger reactions you won’t get the later shots buffed.
The other set gives 15% DMG as well, on top of the crit. So for Chasca's damage, that's only a 25% more DMG, at the cost of 40 crit rate. And that 25% DMG will stack with the likes of Furina and maybe the weapon adding some DMG, so that impact will be reduced, in terms of a percentage increase in damage. And probably more importantly, Ororon will exist. He'll likely be what many people will use with Chasca as the electro of choice, and he'll be in that set.
Chasca's kit is very interesting. Can you please make a video of what teams could be used with her? which teams provide maximum buffs or who can be a good sub dps along side her . The first team that came to my mind after seeing her kit is with furina, bennett, fischl.
Well we've been laughing at how unworthy sigs are for years. And now they make a signature that does what its supposed to do. Its not like she's weak without it. Just stronger with it.
Signature should be for drip and the highest scalling damage/support weapon for the character but it doesn't mean that the weapon alone will make her jump into a completely higher tier, this trend should be stopped
@@banjoowo4001 If she's playable (and fun) enough without signature then it doesn't really matter. She'd already be good enough for normal players by that point regardless of how much signature increases her damage. Even if the increase were 1000000%. Signature weapons exist in the realm of whales anyways...
What i find interesting is that she’s the first anemo character that can be buffed by vv. But sadly u likely miss out on 3rd bullet and wont ever get 4th bullet
@@losergamer04 I'm pretty sure she will benefit from that, but without the attack speed the set is a lot worse. Also not only is it a resin inefficient domain to farm, it's not even her best option. It's fine on her but really not ideal.
Amos atk% substat would be less important than for the average bow atk scaling dps because chasca already incentives you using a atk% goblet (so a crit substat becomes even more valuable in comparison) + TGS had stated in the video that amos charge attack passive doesnt work with chasca cus the game codes her CA while in gun mode differently. Its probably even worse than polar star then
@@agiant5715 i wanted to know if its as good as song of stillness atleast no matter what i use it will be worse than R1 i just want to know by how much exactly
If you only run 2 other elemental types, for her E at baseline do you only get 2 elemental bullets, or do you get 3 just with those two elements specifically? If you only get two bullets with E, not running rainbow team is always a dps decrease no?
Always, obviously no. I mean, if you are running Barbara, electro MC, and Xinyan, for example, well, you'll probably far outdamage that if you ran Furina, Yae/pyro-archon, and Xilonen, both for Chasca personally (all the buffs/debuffs) and for the entire team.
@@gabrielroberts5257 In order to change up the elements, though, you have to change at least one team member. And so it comes down to whether or not the freedom to choose a different character offsets the loss of that bullet. And that will vary from account to account, between what characters people have and the level of investment. Now, I would expect that for most people, her personal damage would suffer. But regardless, the performance of the team as a whole matters more than of one member of it, so... That said, it would be interesting to see how this plays out without Furina in the mix. Like, if you have no Furina, how does an optimal 2 element team with Xil compare to an optimal 3 element team? Likewise, how does not using Benny change team building dynamics?
@@Axterix13 Ignore the teams that's irrelevant, im asking if having one less team member that gives a bullet ends up only converting bullets 5/6 instead of 4/5/6 but with 2 elements. Meaning its very niche for xilonen/kazuha etc to be a significant dmg increase considering you're just losing 2-3 bullets consistently over and over again based on team.
@@gabrielroberts5257 (had to re-read her kit) You always get 3 Elemental bullets, dependent on the elemental types The 4th one has a percentage of converting, 33%/67%/100%
@@EdenVix Yes it's better than Aqua as long as you active the passive. Basically charged attack and Burst DPS characters as long as they have 2 different elements than the equipping character.
Not really unless Hoyo is crazy enough to give Chasca’s attacks the broken cooldowns of Xiangling and Rosaria burst. You can of course do the calculations once we have final numbers, but with current numbers, you would likely need a 30+ crit DMG EM piece to equal an attack piece that rolled mostly into flat Defense.
If shes on teams with bennett i cant see how having a EM sands or Goblet isn't a worthwhile move, pre buffs its already often better then attack sans for vape characters as is and i figure woth electro charge swirl and vape having some EM will be very helpful
The Flower Wraethered Feather bow is an Event bow, not a Gacha bow. Why? Because 1.- the two other weapons that come in 5.2 are the same style and those trend to go to the gacha 2.- there needs to be a free weapon in 5.2 since we gonna get a free character (Candace) in 5.1
Wouldn’t fading twilight be a pretty good f2p option for her? Highest base atk for 4* bow, good er to help her burst every rotation and a universal dmg% bonus fron the passive that will apply to all her types of converted shots
@@Cajun_Seasoning her burst is quite significant part of her damage - even tgs said in the vid sometimes she would need er sands which give more er than fading twilight
Other than horizontal investments to your account she’s not as bad as other hypercarries. Plus you really don’t have to play her in full rainbow team. You’re not missing that much by having one additional random element bullet. If anything you probably would gain more from running her + 2 phec + kazuha/xilonen for the dmg bonus.
@@Nmerejilla I think its cuz the c1 allows you to use non PHEC characters on her team and still get 4 shots and have a 100% chance to conversion 5 shots in non rainbow teams
C1 cus it gives approximately similar dmg buff while making her teams more flexible which is important for future natlan character teams. But r1 would be great if you dont have any other 5* bow considering how bad her f2p weapon options are
Don't listen to this guy. Weapon is better. The dmg difference is only similar if you must run xilonen or kazuha on the team. Otherwise, in basically every other practical team with her, her weapon provides much more value even if you have aqua simulacra.
@@gahindas1972 hmm, if that's true. It would still be better to have the new craftable than song, because it's had an inherently easier condition to fulfil for C0 chaska But what is that weapon man, why does it give em
Zajef did the math already and it's worse, but i don't remember the assumptions he made. Still, if it's not here i assume that it's indeed better to just use the fontaine one
They are close enough that i believe c1 only wins via the margin of making her teams more flexible which would improve her future teams potential. But damn is her weapon insane + all other choices really bad in comparison
Natlan being the nation of whaling is so true. Im not a f2p by any chance but I like to use alternative methods to make my c0r0 charaters be competitive against more invested ones (like having nevuillete use BP weapon or using xianyun to avoid needing hu tao's c1). But now after getting mualani even thou I have been farming only codex set since 5.0 with a decent build + using other teammates buffs like furina dmg% or nahida em; i cant even get close to what a c1 or c0r1 player can dish out with a mediocre build. Not saying that Natlan characters aren't good c0r0, but just feels like soo much potential is locked behind their 1st cons that it starts to make me feel skipping more characters to get a fewer but higher cons natlan characters is worth it.
Nah your talent and/or artifact investment level is subpar or you got skill issue. I don’t see how 200-300k shark bites on Mualani is poor compared to other characters. I use C0R0 Mualani with C0R0 supports. She has some of the highest DPS compared to even top meta carries, at equal investment. There are even fast speedruns out there with low cost teams with her.
Hey TGS Bro, For Weapon : I have "The First Great Magic" , it's Lyney Signature Weapon, Except From Passive It have same Main stat Like Chasa Bow, Is this Weapon be good for her? Please just Tell me as 2nd best option.
Furina one of the very few characters that buffs every possible elemental bullet/reaction (technically xilonen too but running a non PECH character is a big lose especially c0) + gives offield dmg that chasca appreciates. Basically while you can put other characters like oronon and bennett, any replacement to furina would be big dps lost no matter the character (basically similar to wanderer without frazuan c6)
Is Bennett really necessary if she's using ATK Sands and ATK Goblet? Are there any other healers like, maybe C6 Diona who can bridge the gap in a Chasca team?
Diona gives like 10 substats of EM. Bennet gives like 25 substats of attack, which is still the better substat even with ATK sands and goblet. In addition because Furina is mandatory, Bennet being a stronger healer is relevant. And also you likely prefer having a pyro bullet rather than cryo bullet for reactions.
She's definitely a bit of a weird kit. I think the key thing as to her viable flexibility will be how well she functions without Furina in the mix, as Furina then pushes into Benny and so on. And I think for that, we need more off-field/support Natlan characters who can utilize scroll well. One option is obviously Ororon, and then you could use the pyro archon for off-field DPS, but then you want a healer that can do something as well. Like Kokomi, maybe? Kokomi could use Inazuma's Ring, which would buff electro and hydro DMG further. Or there's Citlali, the upcoming cryo. Again, another potential user of the scroll set, setting up other things. And potentially such teams could also give up one element slot for Xilonen, especially if you have at least her sword. She'll heal, she'll debuff the two elements, she'll use scroll, and her sword will buff all elemental damage, including anemo, while leaving you room for two off-field DPS types. But to know if that'll work, we obviously need those other characters. But basically, if we get some characters that go well with her that do enough damage themselves to warrant opting out of Furina+Benny, Chasca's teams could open up. Overall, I kind of think they should have swapped the release order of Citlali and Chasca.
She doesn't need her c1 unless you really want to play her with xilonen or kazuha. Her signature may be necessary though because of the other bows conditions.
Sounds like you’re buying in too much to the whole “make a problem, sell a solution” tactic Hoyo is using here. I highly doubt she’s “dependent” on either of those things to clear most, if not all content. 100% of her possible damage from her signature does not mean that she needs it to clear content fast enough. As for her er issues, we have workarounds in the form of favonius weapons, er sands, or getting c1 if you find it absolutely necessary. There is also using Dori’s burst while she’s on fav greatsword, and if you have her c4 that’s even better. Chasca isn’t entirely as unusable as you think.
yeah, i was looking forward to pulling her but man the investment she needs to be above mid tier is high. compare that to just investing in the current top dps (neuv, arle, al) who have simpler needs but can already output ss tier damages. f2p life sure is rough
For the broken constellations, I think they are seing how much money HSR is making with strong early cons (robin ruan mei boothill firefly topaz) so they are implementing it more and more in genshin.
Early powerful constellations have been a thing since the inazuma era. What changed now is that weapons are following the same trend being far superior to any other option.
@@theoneitalianniceguy C1 wriothesley ain't that type of upgrade. He basically problematic in C0 and they sell the solution in C1 where is C1 like chasca and Neuvilette upgrade from making team building more versatile also powerfull
@@XDark8SlayerX Inazuma??!! not really :Kokomi cons sucks Yoimiya c1 sucks, Raiden C1 sucks Shenhe C1 is eh, Ayaka C1 is eh. They randomly fucked it up with raiden C2 and noticed it was a successful cash grab so they did the same with Nahida, they experimented broken C1 with Neuvillette and Wrio, then followed the broken archon C2 rule with Furina and are now expanding the trend to all the new 5 stars cuz money.
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Eyy your nose is better. How many infused bullets will she have at c1 if she only has 2 different PHEC teammates? 5? 4?
Imo they made chasca to find out how they will implement lore accurate traveler
I really hope that an omni element traveler is introduced near the end of the games lifespan. Alongside Dainsleif or someone equally hype.
@@SuilongV3 everone dude everyone
the way I see it, they wanted to make an anemo dps, but the devs realized there's 2 of them in the game already, and neither of them seem to capitalize on the main aspect of anemo that made it popular in the first place: swirl
So they decided to experiment with the idea of having a DPS that relies on swirl as a reaction for damage
@@toxicfx_nuhaad9175 euh not really i just meant that they were experimenting with a multi element unit without them being broken cus imagine if they just released traveler that czn do hyperbloom on his own or later on when he has pyro applies hydro and vapes his hit that way it would kinda be broken so i think they are just testing thr waters
How many infused bullets will she have at c1 if she only has 2 different PHEC teammates? 4? 5?
The signature being so far ahead of everything else in a kit where you dont even see the weapon ..
Yep. They did this for Kinich too. Kinda weird.
This has been happening for a while in HSR. Now it’s getting to Genshin
They better to be pressurised to stop implementing this gimmick or they'll get more greedy in the future
@@gubzs Thank god bennet gives flat attack. He's the f2p king, the only reason arlecchino white tassel works and using kinich with a low base attack like the craftable works. His weapon having so high base attack means that bennet benifits non whales more.
same w xilonen lol
Bow in this game or in general game wise, shoots arrow and it is classified as 'projectile-based'. Guns are mostly classified as 'hitscan' which is the ammunition is not a projectile and hit target immediately upon firing as compared to projectile-based with the ammunition need 'flight time' to hit target.
So Chasca's case will be classified as hitscan thus making some bows in genshin not workable with her.
Chevy's bullets have air time
Do you know if the viridescent hunt bow works with her then? I chose it from the battle pass thinking of her but I might be fooled lol. It says normal and AIMED shots
Still this bow isn't ideal for her but I wanted to try it anyway
Been waiting for tgs to make another vid for chasca. I'm glad it's here now
Finally can start prefarming her artifact lmao
I have a theory that they're trying to move Chasca from Bennet to play in hydro+electro+pyro:
- it's insanely awkward to lock her in circle to begin with
- she gets a huge atk buff from atk sands + goblet
- her weapon gives her another 24%
- electro should be Ororon who gives 30% atk at c6. He's also great with Elegy (another 20% atk) and universal Heroes set buff
- pyro I assume is Mavuika who is fans speculated to give atk% too
- Idk who's the hydro here, probably not Furina since no healer, but maybe Kokomi with 20% atk from ToTM and 48% from ttds
They've tried this with lyney who gets 48% from bow and up to 60% from passives. Bennet is still bis tho.
No they aren't, she's one character
I wonder, while Chasca is firing these bullets, are elemental reactions taking place at the same time due to these bullets?
yes a pyro bullet can vape and same applies to other elements reactions
@@athashin87 that's incredible
@@microso9889 there's a icd of 1.5s or every other bullet and it's different between anemo and PHEC elements so for example with 2 different PHEC you'll load bullets in this order:
1 Anemo - 2 Anemo - 3 PHEC - 4 PHEC - 5 PHEC - 6 PHEC
as the bullets are shot FILO (First In Last Out) the bullets 6 4 and 2 can trigger an elemental reaction.
Her C1 is even stronger than it looks since it also change the 2nd bullet to Anemo so in the previous example you would have :
1 Anemo - 2 PHEC - 3 PHEC - 4 PHEC - 5 PHEC - 6 PHEC
And bullets 6 4 2 and 1 would all be able to trigger an elemental reaction.
@@hymir397How many infused bullets will she have at c1 if she only has 2 different PHEC teammates? 4? 5?
@@Nmerejilla 4 total, the 2 and 3 from A4 and C1 will be PHEC and 2/3 from 4-5-6 will be PHEC, the 1st bullet + one of 4-5-6 will be anemo
Thanks Chasca for being not F2P friendly, my Mavuika savings are safe 🙏
i do think it’s worth noting that based on ur calcs an em goblet is not too far behind the other options so it is at least usable
Bro thank you I’ve been looking for a chasca guide for so long
before I even bothered watching a how-to-build video, I finished farming like a 210 cv set for her and I low-key regret it now. I'm at like 50cr and 120er so I'll probably need to refarm, but I am not liking her teams and I don't like how her weapon is so far above the rest (I don't have any of the other options). I don't know if I want her anymore tbh, but I'm still really loving her design and I can't exactly use the pieces on anyone else.
anyway, thank you so much for the video!!! really appreciate all the calcs!!
I like how, in addition to giving more versatility to teams by increasing their damage potential, it will consume less energy in C1, making it a great constellation to have for her. Depending on how relevant this is, I will go for it
I am very excited for her (already got way more than enough pulls) but those weapon charts really make me sad.
I have a bunch of 5* bows but even the best of them is 30% worse then sig?! That's so unfair! Since I obviously save for the Archon as well I can't really afford to go for the weapon but that dmg% diff is absurdly high.
Atleast c1 gives a similar dmg buff + makes her teams more flexible. Although still reminds me of how wanderer is a mediocre character without c1r1 so would all anemo dps suffer this curse?
*22% but yes still a difference. all the recent sig weapons r like this tho
@@jh44rell Yeah I know, I was sad to see that Amos and Thundering Pulse did not even make the list.
I just realised he's using Wuwa music for Genshin theory crafting videos, the mad man is a genius
My brain couldn’t comprehend a Genshin video with WuWa bgm
What do you think of Hamayumi? Will it also perform well as an f2p weapon?
What do you think of Hamayumi? It's passive doesn't need to track any distance like the Slingshot & Amos Bow.
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never thought genshin would make a character who does more than one kind of elemental dmg besides their own vision's element but here the chizzler is being the avatar
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Kazuha is right there
@@Flames5237Kazuha can’t deal other elemental dmg without switching
@@Flames5237yeah, but that isn't his main role. He's just a support.
We now have an actual DPS who deals mostly damage that's not their actual element.
@@baguette_connoisseurIt's a joke
Lynette, sucrose, kazuha, sayu, it’s called elemental absorption by Anemo characters
Hi TGS! I'm actually wondering which team upgrade I should focus right now. I wonder if Xilonen C0 would be really important for an account or if I can just go target C1 Chasca when she comes out. What's your thoughs ? Is Xilonen really that much an upgrade to an acocunt (which would have already characters like Zhongli, Furina, Kazuha, Xianyun) or if I want to use a lot Chasca, I can just go for her C1 right now and wait for Xilonen rerun ?
Thanks :)
why not just c0 both lol
@@jh44rell because I really like Chasca and her c1 seems really really really good, that's why I hesitate
getting chasca c0 and xilonen c0 would give you more value than chasca c1. she isn’t cryo so she won’t take a billion years to rerun so you’re safe going for Xilo and Chasca c0 and get c1 on rerun
Get both at C0, you can build them now and get their cons later if you still intend to play them afterwards
@@taskira3296 hmmm well up to u. xilonen is really good tho
Hey just a question, if you use Chasca with Cinder City artifact she will buff the whole team right, she is gonna enable the reaction, right?
Ah yes, Natlan, the Nation of W-haling
5:15 Sooo... did we forget about Chain Breaker?
That’s what I was thinking. It looks to be custom made for her. I’m not sure if Ororon has the same kind of requirements.
Song of stillness is usually better.
What would you say about her talent level priorities? Is it worth it to level her NA?
thanks for your videos, i have 2 questions
1- her dps% while holding cinder city set comparing with the other sets
2- her team's dps% comparison while holding different sets including cinder city set.
Btw the first great magic does give you 1 atk stack since the wearer is also counted
3:28 i was actually thinking but wouldn't the 4p scroll be the best on her? she will gain all the dmg bonuses from the elements she reacts with, regenerate energy and well i think it will make the atk goblet have more value
It's typically in range with VV and it varies depending on the team. She won't be triggering nightsoul burst much so the energy refund is not super significant
How exactly are you going to ensure that you get all the buffs before you attack? You’re gonna have unbuffed bullets because you need to trigger reactions but to trigger reactions you need to use your main source of damage which is your skill or burst. Also I think the leakers said that even through the animations appear as if bullets are firing and moving after the actual damage and buffs are called when loading the magazine so even if you trigger reactions you won’t get the later shots buffed.
The other set gives 15% DMG as well, on top of the crit. So for Chasca's damage, that's only a 25% more DMG, at the cost of 40 crit rate. And that 25% DMG will stack with the likes of Furina and maybe the weapon adding some DMG, so that impact will be reduced, in terms of a percentage increase in damage.
And probably more importantly, Ororon will exist. He'll likely be what many people will use with Chasca as the electro of choice, and he'll be in that set.
Also, I think her icd is kinda messed up so she won't actually trigger all the reactions that need triggering for this to work
Chasca's kit is very interesting. Can you please make a video of what teams could be used with her? which teams provide maximum buffs or who can be a good sub dps along side her . The first team that came to my mind after seeing her kit is with furina, bennett, fischl.
Is Furina,Bennet,charlote a good team?
new signature wps these days smh
Well we've been laughing at how unworthy sigs are for years. And now they make a signature that does what its supposed to do. Its not like she's weak without it. Just stronger with it.
Signature should be for drip and the highest scalling damage/support weapon for the character but it doesn't mean that the weapon alone will make her jump into a completely higher tier, this trend should be stopped
@@banjoowo4001 If she's playable (and fun) enough without signature then it doesn't really matter. She'd already be good enough for normal players by that point regardless of how much signature increases her damage. Even if the increase were 1000000%. Signature weapons exist in the realm of whales anyways...
How about Thundering Pulse?
So chasca is Whale character ? She only good at constellation?
Wouldn’t lyney bow be good for her? I was planning to use that…….
@TGS my guy is Thundering Fury a competitive option for her in an overload team?
Chasca is good but her timing couldn’t be any worse with the banners following her
What i find interesting is that she’s the first anemo character that can be buffed by vv. But sadly u likely miss out on 3rd bullet and wont ever get 4th bullet
Would DPC be any good on her?
She doesn't benefit from the attack speed buff so most likely not.
@@Twag7 but that about the 40% charge attack bonus damage?
@@losergamer04 I'm pretty sure she will benefit from that, but without the attack speed the set is a lot worse. Also not only is it a resin inefficient domain to farm, it's not even her best option. It's fine on her but really not ideal.
i know its not shown for a reason but i would still like to know how much worse is amos bow compared to her R1?
Amos atk% substat would be less important than for the average bow atk scaling dps because chasca already incentives you using a atk% goblet (so a crit substat becomes even more valuable in comparison)
+ TGS had stated in the video that amos charge attack passive doesnt work with chasca cus the game codes her CA while in gun mode differently. Its probably even worse than polar star then
@@agiant5715 i wanted to know if its as good as song of stillness atleast
no matter what i use it will be worse than R1 i just want to know by how much exactly
How much stronger song of stillness is compared to the natlan craftable ?
TGS, will cinder city work on her?
It works but the Obsidian Codex set is just overall much better.
Do we know how good Thundering Pulse is on her? It's the only 5 star bow I have and hoping it can be a good stat stick.
6:16 she got a Acheron E2 at C1 lol
Does the first part of Amos Bow's passive still work? Since it's a flat increase to Normal and Charged attacks.
chain breaker the natlan craftable bow should be good for her, no ?
How is fading twilight on her? High base ATK, ER, common dmg bonus
Scenarios is my favourite word TGS says😂 next to bye
Is this bow Tighnaris new best in slot? Im thinking for sure
If you only run 2 other elemental types, for her E at baseline do you only get 2 elemental bullets, or do you get 3 just with those two elements specifically? If you only get two bullets with E, not running rainbow team is always a dps decrease no?
Always, obviously no. I mean, if you are running Barbara, electro MC, and Xinyan, for example, well, you'll probably far outdamage that if you ran Furina, Yae/pyro-archon, and Xilonen, both for Chasca personally (all the buffs/debuffs) and for the entire team.
@@Axterix13 not speaking to different comps, more so if you run 2 vs 3 different elemental types that change bullets
@@gabrielroberts5257 In order to change up the elements, though, you have to change at least one team member. And so it comes down to whether or not the freedom to choose a different character offsets the loss of that bullet. And that will vary from account to account, between what characters people have and the level of investment. Now, I would expect that for most people, her personal damage would suffer. But regardless, the performance of the team as a whole matters more than of one member of it, so...
That said, it would be interesting to see how this plays out without Furina in the mix. Like, if you have no Furina, how does an optimal 2 element team with Xil compare to an optimal 3 element team? Likewise, how does not using Benny change team building dynamics?
@@Axterix13 Ignore the teams that's irrelevant, im asking if having one less team member that gives a bullet ends up only converting bullets 5/6 instead of 4/5/6 but with 2 elements. Meaning its very niche for xilonen/kazuha etc to be a significant dmg increase considering you're just losing 2-3 bullets consistently over and over again based on team.
@@gabrielroberts5257 (had to re-read her kit) You always get 3 Elemental bullets, dependent on the elemental types
The 4th one has a percentage of converting, 33%/67%/100%
Is Chasca's weapon better than first great magic for lyney in vape teams?
Her weapon is better than any R5 5 star bow, it's insane
@@MJAY552 who else can use it aside from her? Is it better than aqua?
@@EdenVix Yes it's better than Aqua as long as you active the passive. Basically charged attack and Burst DPS characters as long as they have 2 different elements than the equipping character.
EM should still be useful; she's naturally going to swirl her own applications, so it'll come down to substats between atk and EM pieces.
Not really unless Hoyo is crazy enough to give Chasca’s attacks the broken cooldowns of Xiangling and Rosaria burst.
You can of course do the calculations once we have final numbers, but with current numbers, you would likely need a 30+ crit DMG EM piece to equal an attack piece that rolled mostly into flat Defense.
So should I use
ER ATK CRIT
or
ATK ATK CRIT
I will be using blackcliff bow on her.
Isnt range gauge one of her best weapon as well? I've seen it floating around other weapon calc sheets.
can she use yoimiya's bow ?
Glorified all-in-one Sukokomon RNG roulette character 🚮
If shes on teams with bennett i cant see how having a EM sands or Goblet isn't a worthwhile move, pre buffs its already often better then attack sans for vape characters as is and i figure woth electro charge swirl and vape having some EM will be very helpful
Is Amos gonna be okay with Chasca?
Is Amos bow is good for her?
brother did u even watch the video?
The Flower Wraethered Feather bow is an Event bow, not a Gacha bow. Why? Because 1.- the two other weapons that come in 5.2 are the same style and those trend to go to the gacha 2.- there needs to be a free weapon in 5.2 since we gonna get a free character (Candace) in 5.1
Wouldn’t fading twilight be a pretty good f2p option for her? Highest base atk for 4* bow, good er to help her burst every rotation and a universal dmg% bonus fron the passive that will apply to all her types of converted shots
she isn't burst reliant tho. her dmg is mainly skill dmg, like the rest of the natlan dps's so far
@@Cajun_Seasoning her burst is quite significant part of her damage - even tgs said in the vid sometimes she would need er sands which give more er than fading twilight
@@kamifoltek2345 Her burst is basically an extra 1875% motion value while each of her three shots are 1640% .
What about R5 stringless, gives skill and burst dmg also good for decent EM
its really lame how she kinda requires heavy investment, i really hate that
Other than horizontal investments to your account she’s not as bad as other hypercarries. Plus you really don’t have to play her in full rainbow team. You’re not missing that much by having one additional random element bullet. If anything you probably would gain more from running her + 2 phec + kazuha/xilonen for the dmg bonus.
Why is natlan craftable not a good weapon on her as it gives att% for different elements for her and a bit of EM?
was really hoping amos bow would b good enough on her😔
Chasca rides a magnum
How many infused bullets will she have at c1 if she only has 2 different PHEC teammates? 4? 5?
I believe 4 PHEC with 2 and 5 with 3 PHEC
@@jellygish2007 thanks jellygish. Now I don't see the purpose of the change from 33/67/100 to 67/100/100 guarantee of the a1 from her c1
@@Nmerejilla I think its cuz the c1 allows you to use non PHEC characters on her team and still get 4 shots and have a 100% chance to conversion 5 shots in non rainbow teams
So Obsidian codex with ER , ATK , CRIT DMG
the weapon differences r so ridiculous
c1 or weapon then?
C1 cus it gives approximately similar dmg buff while making her teams more flexible which is important for future natlan character teams. But r1 would be great if you dont have any other 5* bow considering how bad her f2p weapon options are
Don't listen to this guy. Weapon is better. The dmg difference is only similar if you must run xilonen or kazuha on the team. Otherwise, in basically every other practical team with her, her weapon provides much more value even if you have aqua simulacra.
5:55 what about the Natlan craftable bow?
Probably around Song of Stillness R5.
@@gahindas1972 hmm, if that's true. It would still be better to have the new craftable than song, because it's had an inherently easier condition to fulfil for C0 chaska
But what is that weapon man, why does it give em
Zajef did the math already and it's worse, but i don't remember the assumptions he made. Still, if it's not here i assume that it's indeed better to just use the fontaine one
The bow comparison is on the Zajeff Daily channel: Song of Stillness is quite better.
so is c1>r1?
They are close enough that i believe c1 only wins via the margin of making her teams more flexible which would improve her future teams potential. But damn is her weapon insane + all other choices really bad in comparison
Ill pick her up, but she's getting R5 amos
am i the only who's crazy and sees the "hydro" bullet as electro bcus it's purple? 😅
Not me with my great anemo obsidian goblet.
Is there any citing for the music used here? We'd really appreciate it
ATK/EM/CRIT is the wave.
Natlan being the nation of whaling is so true. Im not a f2p by any chance but I like to use alternative methods to make my c0r0 charaters be competitive against more invested ones (like having nevuillete use BP weapon or using xianyun to avoid needing hu tao's c1). But now after getting mualani even thou I have been farming only codex set since 5.0 with a decent build + using other teammates buffs like furina dmg% or nahida em; i cant even get close to what a c1 or c0r1 player can dish out with a mediocre build.
Not saying that Natlan characters aren't good c0r0, but just feels like soo much potential is locked behind their 1st cons that it starts to make me feel skipping more characters to get a fewer but higher cons natlan characters is worth it.
Nah your talent and/or artifact investment level is subpar or you got skill issue. I don’t see how 200-300k shark bites on Mualani is poor compared to other characters. I use C0R0 Mualani with C0R0 supports.
She has some of the highest DPS compared to even top meta carries, at equal investment.
There are even fast speedruns out there with low cost teams with her.
@@user-ot4ly9dp1c a r1 mualani hits 400k-500k with the much less investment wdym?
Why r1? R1 is = to a con
just use widsith lmao. its literally more damage than R1
@@user-ot4ly9dp1c 200k-300k shark bites are kinda mid consider how thats only around 750k dmg which is worse than navia.
Mihoyo is releasing Chasca and Xilonen to dethrone Kazuha forever. It's time to let him rest.
How about hero of cinder scroll i think it would be amazing cuz she infused with it
blackcliff bow??
Why am I watching this, I'm not wishing for her haha
Hey TGS Bro,
For Weapon : I have "The First Great Magic" , it's Lyney Signature Weapon, Except From Passive It have same Main stat Like Chasa Bow,
Is this Weapon be good for her?
Please just Tell me as 2nd best option.
Who can i replace Furina with ?
No one.
Furina one of the very few characters that buffs every possible elemental bullet/reaction (technically xilonen too but running a non PECH character is a big lose especially c0) + gives offield dmg that chasca appreciates. Basically while you can put other characters like oronon and bennett, any replacement to furina would be big dps lost no matter the character (basically similar to wanderer without frazuan c6)
Proly mona and kazuha> xilonen.
I want her but I don’t need her 🤧
Is Bennett really necessary if she's using ATK Sands and ATK Goblet? Are there any other healers like, maybe C6 Diona who can bridge the gap in a Chasca team?
What is Diona doing in the team though? She just gives you a worse buff since the stat is worse and you get less of it
Diona gives like 10 substats of EM. Bennet gives like 25 substats of attack, which is still the better substat even with ATK sands and goblet. In addition because Furina is mandatory, Bennet being a stronger healer is relevant. And also you likely prefer having a pyro bullet rather than cryo bullet for reactions.
@@farius8506 Well damn. I guess I'll just not pull for Chasca then since I have too many Bennett slaves already. :/
She's definitely a bit of a weird kit. I think the key thing as to her viable flexibility will be how well she functions without Furina in the mix, as Furina then pushes into Benny and so on. And I think for that, we need more off-field/support Natlan characters who can utilize scroll well. One option is obviously Ororon, and then you could use the pyro archon for off-field DPS, but then you want a healer that can do something as well. Like Kokomi, maybe? Kokomi could use Inazuma's Ring, which would buff electro and hydro DMG further. Or there's Citlali, the upcoming cryo. Again, another potential user of the scroll set, setting up other things. And potentially such teams could also give up one element slot for Xilonen, especially if you have at least her sword. She'll heal, she'll debuff the two elements, she'll use scroll, and her sword will buff all elemental damage, including anemo, while leaving you room for two off-field DPS types. But to know if that'll work, we obviously need those other characters.
But basically, if we get some characters that go well with her that do enough damage themselves to warrant opting out of Furina+Benny, Chasca's teams could open up.
Overall, I kind of think they should have swapped the release order of Citlali and Chasca.
@@renycilfay9773 Yeah, my arlecchino only uses white tassle and her damage LITERALLY HALFS when my c1 bennet is not on the team. Same with kinich.
Can you please use singularity for the sheriff I like that one 😢 please 🙏
🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅CHASCA🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
so she's heavily dependant on her Signature and C1 .. I see ... too bad she looks fun
She doesn't need her c1 unless you really want to play her with xilonen or kazuha. Her signature may be necessary though because of the other bows conditions.
Sounds like you’re buying in too much to the whole “make a problem, sell a solution” tactic Hoyo is using here. I highly doubt she’s “dependent” on either of those things to clear most, if not all content. 100% of her possible damage from her signature does not mean that she needs it to clear content fast enough. As for her er issues, we have workarounds in the form of favonius weapons, er sands, or getting c1 if you find it absolutely necessary. There is also using Dori’s burst while she’s on fav greatsword, and if you have her c4 that’s even better. Chasca isn’t entirely as unusable as you think.
plsplsplspls do cc subtitles for us that finds difficult to understand other english speaking accents 😭
ororon soon pls 🤑🤑
so it means that faruzan is no beneficial with her? that's sad ...
Chasca is a heartbreaking skip for me
yeah, i was looking forward to pulling her but man the investment she needs to be above mid tier is high. compare that to just investing in the current top dps (neuv, arle, al) who have simpler needs but can already output ss tier damages. f2p life sure is rough
@@danielleorchestra5023 Do you realize that Neuvi suffers the same as Chasca? His sig is much better than f2p weapons.
For the broken constellations, I think they are seing how much money HSR is making with strong early cons (robin ruan mei boothill firefly topaz) so they are implementing it more and more in genshin.
Genshin already started doing that since 2.0 namely ayaka and raiden and from Fontaine the cons power level spiked up significantly
started with wriothesley
Early powerful constellations have been a thing since the inazuma era. What changed now is that weapons are following the same trend being far superior to any other option.
@@theoneitalianniceguy C1 wriothesley ain't that type of upgrade. He basically problematic in C0 and they sell the solution in C1 where is C1 like chasca and Neuvilette upgrade from making team building more versatile also powerfull
@@XDark8SlayerX Inazuma??!! not really :Kokomi cons sucks Yoimiya c1 sucks, Raiden C1 sucks Shenhe C1 is eh, Ayaka C1 is eh.
They randomly fucked it up with raiden C2 and noticed it was a successful cash grab so they did the same with Nahida, they experimented broken C1 with Neuvillette and Wrio, then followed the broken archon C2 rule with Furina and are now expanding the trend to all the new 5 stars cuz money.
Signature 40% stronger than f2p, yikes
So you want to tell me my ONSET 40cv 1 Atk role Anemo Goblet will not be better then a freaking atk% Goblet. I will not sleep good today
It's good but a 25+ cv atk goblet will usually be better.
0:00 "GUYS" 🗣🔥🔥
Sounds like another chiori c1 🤣
She can't use any SSS support pre c1 aside furina, the hybrid nature is wonky AF due to Anemo dmg split etc.
Very Meh unit
Berarti sia2 dong w bikin goblet anemo obsidian codex pake elixir😢😢😢😢
7:38 yes