My grandparents are white from the south but they pretty much lived in those conditions. They basically lived in shacks without electricity. They did not have enough to eat either.
David another excellent interview , i was at Berkeley back in the 60's and made my way ta' the South in order ta' fight for equality for all . I believed we had made a difference! Yet when i was back in the South in the late 90's i encountered a sweet child being harassed by two young adult men. I injected myself in between them and purchased the child's groceries. When everyone had left, the store clerk asked " Do you have a gun? " I asked why see wanted ta' know? Her response " those two young men are members of the KKK, when they said they'd be coming back with friends, that what they ment. With the hatred and cult like atmosphere in our country today, I'm almost certain my generation didn't accomplish much of anything.
Yeah. I grew up in an all black community. I'm white. I used to get harassed by black panthers all the time. Jumped by their little brothers etc. It goes both ways. Also, you do realize there were black people involved in the upper class. Who looked down on poor people of all colors. There was black and native American slave owners. Black Africans started and maintained the black slave trade. They still have slavery in some African countries to this day.
@@thetruthispotenza3602 Awesome response, yes I am aware of Native American People having slaves, I didn't know about wealthy Black African's and the slave trade.
@davidroberts5577 I just think it's wrong how all white people are demonized. All of our ancestors are demonized. Even if they fought to end slavery. My family fought to end slavery in the US. But just because I have white skin. I was deemed evil and racist. I was just a kid. I just wanted friends to play with. I get that there was wrong things done to black people in the US. But white people and other races suffered as well. The Irish were enslaved and discriminated against. The Italians were discriminated against. And I have both Italian and Irish in my ancestry. The truth is, humans can be unbelievably evil. And in the US. White people are all shoved in one category. Evil racist. And you cant escape it. No matter what you do, who your ancestors are and what they did. It doesn't matter. And I don't hear nothing at all about the evil things black people have done in the US nor in their history as a whole. How can we all be truly united, when only one group is crucified and the other is treated like they never did anything wrong?
Drove back to Cali from Dothan Ala. with my mom and brother in 65. Drove thru Selma on a Sunday morning, all storefronts were closed with iron gates. When u crossed the railroad tracks no more side walks, homes had missing boards, washer and or wringers on the front porch, total dichotomy. It opened my eyes at 14yrs old.
I watch a lot and comment little, but David you carried some amazing interviews and produced some tremendously historically important films. ❤ from the 🇬🇧
Margot Adler brought up very good points about how the south was in 1965 in a black community. We need to be able to not just look at what it's like from the other perspective but know how it feels from the other perspective to fully understand and make necessary changes toward humanity and dignity for all. Thanks, David, for keeping the 1960's alive so we can study and learn from the mistake of the past. 😊🧡🤞
Here in the UK electricity, proper sewage and potable water systems and piped gas supplies came some counties (same as states) until the 1960's. Most of the people who lived in the countryside had these things very late.
She really did some incredible things! This is amazing and sad at the same time. She got a little taste of what it's like and it shook her to the core. Thank you for sharing this clip, David. 💙
Margot Adler was a fascinating woman what she had to say remind me this 1968 song. “Give a Damn” by Spanky and Our Gang written by Bob Dorough & Stuart Scharf. If you'd take the train with me Uptown, thru the misery Of ghetto streets in morning light It's always night Take a window seat, put down your Times You can read between the lines Just meet the faces that you meet Beyond the window's pane And it might begin to teach you How to give a damn about your fellow man And it might begin to teach you How to give a damn about your fellow man Or put your girl to sleep sometime With rats instead of nursery rhymes With hunger and your other children By her side And wonder if you'll share your bed With something else which must be fed For fear may lie beside you Or it may sleep down the hall And it might begin to teach you How to give a damn about your fellow man And it might begin to teach you How to give a damn about your fellow man Come and see how well despair Is seasoned by the stif'ling air See your ghetto in the good old Sizzling summertime Suppose the streets were all on fire The flames like tempers leaping higher Suppose you'd lived there all your life D'you think that you would mind? And it might begin to reach you Why I give a damn about my fellow man; And it might begin to teach you How to give a damn about your fellow man
@@drewpall2598 Me, too!! I watched it back when it originally aired, and I love these clips! One of these old days I'd like to rewatch it again in its entirety. 😉💜✌️
I wish you could have worded this in a way that emphasized the divide between wealthy white people and poor white people better because you're right. Classism affects everyone regardless of race. The South is a great example of that. But intersectionality and cultural currency exist. There should unity among working class lines, as there is among the super wealthy, but there isn't, and that's because of the notion historically, and to this day, that the poorest, dumbest, drunkest white person is better than the smartest, richest black person. That was a lie based in disproven eugenic "science" that was created to "scientifically" explain why white people were the superior race. This lie became truth after is was spread widely by the white wealthy elite through the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade to quell peoples empathy or compassion towards slaves.This also ensured the divide between the poor, working class whites, and black working class people, would never have unity amongst class lines after slavery was ended, keeping the wealthy and powerful, wealthy and powerful. This lie became truth after being told enough through generations, while the contradictions by scientist through those generations directly contradicting the eugenic claims, were ignored. I guess what I'm trying to say is, irregardless of class lines, in America, race plays the biggest factor. Your comment feels hella invalidating and downplaying of the black experience, while ignoring the historical facts. Again, like you said, there were historically, and currently, many very poor white communities, especially in the south. But, poorness that surpassed or even met the soul crushing poverty that nearly every poor and even "middle class" black community faced across the country are such outliers that most are directly made mention of in history because of their rareness. Because, again, the idea that white people were basically above being as poor as black people. And they were white. That doesn't change the experience of the people in these extremely poor communities though, but it also doesn't erase that on a larger scale, they were outliers rather than the norm. This experience of poverty, being purposefully left to rot, or intentionally set there to rot, ignored by the government, lack of access to good education, healthcare, better pay and safe working conditions, these should be things that unite people across class lines, but we can't get to that point if the differences aren't acknowledged as well. And the differences is, in America, black people, on average, are treated considerably worse than white people. This is both a fact statistically and anecdotally. Once that's at least acknowledged, the wounds will start to heal, and compassion, empathy and understanding will start to grow. Basically, you don't have to say it was the same to say it was bad. It wasn't the same, except for rare outliers on the white side, but it also was bad. Both can be true on the same time. you could've said, "damn, that's how I grew up, and how my community was, and I'm white!" without needing to erase the exact reason that basically every black community since the civil war t'ill maybe the 90's/early 2000's, has been that poor. lmao I have way too much time
Education is an experience in emmulsive introversion. You must take what you learn and observe in the world and apply this to your still forming perception of self. This is why equality is imperative for our highest funtioning society, separation breeds fear, and misunderstanding. I appreciate your interviews and write ups Mr. Hoffman ✨
What they don't tell you is that the Southern US was an extremely harsh climate to live in FOR EVERYONE. This has a huge effect on the culture of a given geography. For example, endemic diseases in the South include malaria, blackwater fever, pellagra, amoebic dysentery, hookworm and a bunch of others. All harsh environments around the world have equally extreme cultures. Just as traders going to Africa wouldn't dare step foot on African soil, they would last a matter of weeks before succumbing to disease.
Another short interview from Mr. Hoffman's collection, listeners like me (I'm not a fan of horror movies) will be exaggerated, but I know that it's a treasure tip for a filmmaker. Thank you for sharing one of the many interesting clips from your collection ❤
Strsnge,we moved to Alabama in 70,lived in a shack eith one fireplace an outhouse out back cut firewood to keep warm...to thix day it was the best year of my life... And I happen to be white
It's hard to say what the solution should have been. The war was inevitable once the south seceded. Imo reparations would have at the least mitigated the extreme poverty that many freed slaves ended up in. By 1965, we're almost 100 years later, and still the descendents of the freed slaves were impoverished due to consistent policy which made economic movement near impossible.
The plantation owners were already the wealthiest humans of all time. They were quite sure (and close) to winning their independence. With their wealth, nothing could stop them.
Evil comes in many forms, no matter how dressed up by acceptable racial color, or worldly wealth, it does not touch or even come near to the Love that belongs to God
It’s definitely not wrong to advocate for one’s self. I reckon you’ve never wanted, that’s why it’s so easy for you to point the finger at those in poverty. I grew up in poverty, and I knew several white folks in poverty. If you’ll notice, all but one of the presidents in the 1970’s was Republican. And after that, more Republicans. I don’t typically comment on parties but it is always Republicans who call others snowflakes. I don’t believe poverty can have a label attached to it like that - doesn’t matter who you are, it can happen to you.
@@BlackSeranna”I ended up leaving after a day because I started shaking.” She is trying to play the victim like a little liberal snowflake. She grew up with more than 95% of the rest of the world, went to a top university and pretends to be a victim, I’m not buying it.
@@runrig97 Their policies sure seem to promote it, not that the current Republican policies are a lot better. The only way to ensure a healthy economy is through free markets.
@@kc0jtl let's see, who was it in charge when the economy tanked a few years ago, and we had the highest unemployment rate? Oh yeah, a Republican, also the same for the last few Republicans. Sure, we had low inflation, but that just set us up for a bounce the other direction when the economy got going again.
Go back to the 1970’s and see what kind of poverty we had during those times. Don’t point your finger at Carter, either. The poverty was widespread and merciless. I remember kids in my class being dirty, some of them, with bad shoes and teeth. I knew a guy my age, he went to the army and was a veteran - he told me how he grew up on the edge of Illinois during those years, of not having more than bread at his house full of 8 kids. Bread and mustard. The first kids up got to wear shoes to school, the others went barefoot. His 2nd grade teacher gave him some shoes. He was beaten by his older sister and hid in the closet in read books if he could get them. They fished the river for food so he refused to eat fish in his adulthood. He also said that only the first kids up got food - he remembered his older brother got up later and bawled because there was NO FOOD. There were NO help programs back then, and the church only dropped off a basket of food now and then. Not enough. There was no CPS to even check on the welfare of children (so the guy I knew was in four foster homes before he got lucky and his last foster home helped him graduate school). He then went off to the Army. Under all of that were Republican presidents, my friend. All except for Carter. I believe it was under him we started getting some free cheese and milk. That was nice. Take your political rhetoric elsewhere or talk to people who lived through the poor times. I haven’t forgotten. I’m certain others haven’t forgotten. Maybe you just lived in a rich family.
Wow, some people were poor back then and some people were rich. How awful. Not at all like today. And this lady was literally shaking and in shock at this discovery. Doesn’t sound like someone with the soundness of mind to be worth listening to.
My grandparents are white from the south but they pretty much lived in those conditions. They basically lived in shacks without electricity. They did not have enough to eat either.
David another excellent interview , i was at Berkeley back in the 60's and made my way ta' the South in order ta' fight for equality for all . I believed we had made a difference! Yet when i was back in the South in the late 90's i encountered a sweet child being harassed by two young adult men. I injected myself in between them and purchased the child's groceries. When everyone had left, the store clerk asked " Do you have a gun? " I asked why see wanted ta' know? Her response " those two young men are members of the KKK, when they said they'd be coming back with friends, that what they ment. With the hatred and cult like atmosphere in our country today, I'm almost certain my generation didn't accomplish much of anything.
Yeah. I grew up in an all black community. I'm white. I used to get harassed by black panthers all the time. Jumped by their little brothers etc. It goes both ways. Also, you do realize there were black people involved in the upper class. Who looked down on poor people of all colors. There was black and native American slave owners. Black Africans started and maintained the black slave trade. They still have slavery in some African countries to this day.
@@thetruthispotenza3602 Awesome response, yes I am aware of Native American People having slaves, I didn't know about wealthy Black African's and the slave trade.
@davidroberts5577 I just think it's wrong how all white people are demonized. All of our ancestors are demonized. Even if they fought to end slavery. My family fought to end slavery in the US. But just because I have white skin. I was deemed evil and racist. I was just a kid. I just wanted friends to play with. I get that there was wrong things done to black people in the US. But white people and other races suffered as well. The Irish were enslaved and discriminated against. The Italians were discriminated against. And I have both Italian and Irish in my ancestry. The truth is, humans can be unbelievably evil. And in the US. White people are all shoved in one category. Evil racist. And you cant escape it. No matter what you do, who your ancestors are and what they did. It doesn't matter. And I don't hear nothing at all about the evil things black people have done in the US nor in their history as a whole. How can we all be truly united, when only one group is crucified and the other is treated like they never did anything wrong?
@davidroberts5577 look up who Tippu Tip for starters. There is many more. But that's a good place to start.
Thank you David 🕉️☮️
Hogtown isn't a slur. That meant they were making money. Pork is big down south.
Drove back to Cali from Dothan Ala. with my mom and brother in 65. Drove thru Selma on a Sunday morning, all storefronts were closed with iron gates. When u crossed the railroad tracks no more side walks, homes had missing boards, washer and or wringers on the front porch, total dichotomy. It opened my eyes at 14yrs old.
I watch a lot and comment little, but David you carried some amazing interviews and produced some tremendously historically important films.
❤ from the 🇬🇧
Margot Adler brought up very good points about how the south was in 1965 in a black community. We need to be able to not just look at what it's like from the other perspective but know how it feels from the other perspective to fully understand and make necessary changes toward humanity and dignity for all. Thanks, David, for keeping the 1960's alive so we can study and learn from the mistake of the past. 😊🧡🤞
@@drewpall2598 I should have known yours would be a loving comment ☺️✨
@@MGMG-lc2fe Thanks you! 😊🧡
Sharing this with some lovely Pagan friends here in the UK. Thank you Mr Hoffman. 🫶
Here in the UK electricity, proper sewage and potable water systems and piped gas supplies came some counties (same as states) until the 1960's. Most of the people who lived in the countryside had these things very late.
Thank you. Excellent clip and cherished opportunity for you, and us.
My grand parents/Dad got electricity and indoor plumbing for first time in 1965 in Ontario Canada when grandfather was 73
Where? Up north or ???
Culture shock is precisely what caused your feelings.
Thanks so much for sharing this.
1965 was just 59 years ago... Something for all to think about.
She really did some incredible things! This is amazing and sad at the same time. She got a little taste of what it's like and it shook her to the core. Thank you for sharing this clip, David. 💙
Yeah. And i know what it's like living in an all black community as a white person. They're evil and racist just like any other race
Margot Adler was a fascinating woman
what she had to say remind me this 1968 song.
“Give a Damn” by Spanky and Our Gang
written by Bob Dorough & Stuart Scharf.
If you'd take the train with me
Uptown, thru the misery
Of ghetto streets in morning light
It's always night
Take a window seat, put down your Times
You can read between the lines
Just meet the faces that you meet
Beyond the window's pane
And it might begin to teach you
How to give a damn about your fellow man
And it might begin to teach you
How to give a damn about your fellow man
Or put your girl to sleep sometime
With rats instead of nursery rhymes
With hunger and your other children
By her side
And wonder if you'll share your bed
With something else which must be fed
For fear may lie beside you
Or it may sleep down the hall
And it might begin to teach you
How to give a damn about your fellow man
And it might begin to teach you
How to give a damn about your fellow man
Come and see how well despair
Is seasoned by the stif'ling air
See your ghetto in the good old
Sizzling summertime
Suppose the streets were all on fire
The flames like tempers leaping higher
Suppose you'd lived there all your life
D'you think that you would mind?
And it might begin to reach you
Why I give a damn about my fellow man;
And it might begin to teach you
How to give a damn about your fellow man
@@drewpall2598 Yes she was. I heartily agree! The song is very apropos, too. Thanks, Drew.😊💜
@@StephanieJeanne I love all of David Hoffman making sense of the sixty interviews he had done so informative..😊🧡✌
@@drewpall2598 Me, too!! I watched it back when it originally aired, and I love these clips! One of these old days I'd like to rewatch it again in its entirety.
😉💜✌️
It looked the same for whites as well! We had no inside bathroom up until I 25 years old so it wasn’t just blacks!
Dont act like theres no reason to say what she said
I wish you could have worded this in a way that emphasized the divide between wealthy white people and poor white people better because you're right. Classism affects everyone regardless of race. The South is a great example of that. But intersectionality and cultural currency exist. There should unity among working class lines, as there is among the super wealthy, but there isn't, and that's because of the notion historically, and to this day, that the poorest, dumbest, drunkest white person is better than the smartest, richest black person. That was a lie based in disproven eugenic "science" that was created to "scientifically" explain why white people were the superior race. This lie became truth after is was spread widely by the white wealthy elite through the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade to quell peoples empathy or compassion towards slaves.This also ensured the divide between the poor, working class whites, and black working class people, would never have unity amongst class lines after slavery was ended, keeping the wealthy and powerful, wealthy and powerful. This lie became truth after being told enough through generations, while the contradictions by scientist through those generations directly contradicting the eugenic claims, were ignored. I guess what I'm trying to say is, irregardless of class lines, in America, race plays the biggest factor. Your comment feels hella invalidating and downplaying of the black experience, while ignoring the historical facts. Again, like you said, there were historically, and currently, many very poor white communities, especially in the south. But, poorness that surpassed or even met the soul crushing poverty that nearly every poor and even "middle class" black community faced across the country are such outliers that most are directly made mention of in history because of their rareness. Because, again, the idea that white people were basically above being as poor as black people. And they were white. That doesn't change the experience of the people in these extremely poor communities though, but it also doesn't erase that on a larger scale, they were outliers rather than the norm. This experience of poverty, being purposefully left to rot, or intentionally set there to rot, ignored by the government, lack of access to good education, healthcare, better pay and safe working conditions, these should be things that unite people across class lines, but we can't get to that point if the differences aren't acknowledged as well. And the differences is, in America, black people, on average, are treated considerably worse than white people. This is both a fact statistically and anecdotally. Once that's at least acknowledged, the wounds will start to heal, and compassion, empathy and understanding will start to grow. Basically, you don't have to say it was the same to say it was bad. It wasn't the same, except for rare outliers on the white side, but it also was bad. Both can be true on the same time. you could've said, "damn, that's how I grew up, and how my community was, and I'm white!" without needing to erase the exact reason that basically every black community since the civil war t'ill maybe the 90's/early 2000's, has been that poor. lmao I have way too much time
Education is an experience in emmulsive introversion. You must take what you learn and observe in the world and apply this to your still forming perception of self. This is why equality is imperative for our highest funtioning society, separation breeds fear, and misunderstanding. I appreciate your interviews and write ups Mr. Hoffman ✨
@MGMG-lc2fe... 😊✌🧡 Nice comment.
@@drewpall2598 Thank you. I have a tendency to overshare 🌞💖✨
@@MGMG-lc2fe Keep being you! MG. 😊✌🧡
What they don't tell you is that the Southern US was an extremely harsh climate to live in FOR EVERYONE. This has a huge effect on the culture of a given geography. For example, endemic diseases in the South include malaria, blackwater fever, pellagra, amoebic dysentery, hookworm and a bunch of others. All harsh environments around the world have equally extreme cultures. Just as traders going to Africa wouldn't dare step foot on African soil, they would last a matter of weeks before succumbing to disease.
Another short interview from Mr. Hoffman's collection, listeners like me (I'm not a fan of horror movies) will be exaggerated, but I know that it's a treasure tip for a filmmaker. Thank you for sharing one of the many interesting clips from your collection ❤
Strsnge,we moved to Alabama in 70,lived in a shack eith one fireplace an outhouse out back cut firewood to keep warm...to thix day it was the best year of my life... And I happen to be white
That war should have NEVER happened. It created bitterness that lasted 100 years. There were other ways , $$ , to have ended that practice.
It's hard to say what the solution should have been. The war was inevitable once the south seceded.
Imo reparations would have at the least mitigated the extreme poverty that many freed slaves ended up in. By 1965, we're almost 100 years later, and still the descendents of the freed slaves were impoverished due to consistent policy which made economic movement near impossible.
The plantation owners were already the wealthiest humans of all time. They were quite sure (and close) to winning their independence. With their wealth, nothing could stop them.
@@deathroll69how does seceding make it inevitable? Let them secede. If CA today wanted to secede let it.
Evil comes in many forms, no matter how dressed up by acceptable racial color, or worldly wealth, it does not touch or even come near to the Love that belongs to God
omg, that's margot adler! i recognize her from one of the occult videos i owne.
Segregation ended in 68
I guess we have had snowflakes a little longer than I thought.
It’s definitely not wrong to advocate for one’s self. I reckon you’ve never wanted, that’s why it’s so easy for you to point the finger at those in poverty. I grew up in poverty, and I knew several white folks in poverty. If you’ll notice, all but one of the presidents in the 1970’s was Republican. And after that, more Republicans. I don’t typically comment on parties but it is always Republicans who call others snowflakes. I don’t believe poverty can have a label attached to it like that - doesn’t matter who you are, it can happen to you.
@@BlackSeranna”I ended up leaving after a day because I started shaking.” She is trying to play the victim like a little liberal snowflake. She grew up with more than 95% of the rest of the world, went to a top university and pretends to be a victim, I’m not buying it.
@@BlackSerannaThe 1970s had the lowest poverty rate since 1959, but Carter fixed that.
Poverty is a function of the Democrat party.
What an ignorant statement..but then, ignorance is standard for the MAGA cult.
@@runrig97 Their policies sure seem to promote it, not that the current Republican policies are a lot better. The only way to ensure a healthy economy is through free markets.
@@kc0jtl let's see, who was it in charge when the economy tanked a few years ago, and we had the highest unemployment rate? Oh yeah, a Republican, also the same for the last few Republicans. Sure, we had low inflation, but that just set us up for a bounce the other direction when the economy got going again.
Go back to the 1970’s and see what kind of poverty we had during those times. Don’t point your finger at Carter, either. The poverty was widespread and merciless. I remember kids in my class being dirty, some of them, with bad shoes and teeth. I knew a guy my age, he went to the army and was a veteran - he told me how he grew up on the edge of Illinois during those years, of not having more than bread at his house full of 8 kids. Bread and mustard. The first kids up got to wear shoes to school, the others went barefoot. His 2nd grade teacher gave him some shoes.
He was beaten by his older sister and hid in the closet in read books if he could get them. They fished the river for food so he refused to eat fish in his adulthood.
He also said that only the first kids up got food - he remembered his older brother got up later and bawled because there was NO FOOD.
There were NO help programs back then, and the church only dropped off a basket of food now and then. Not enough.
There was no CPS to even check on the welfare of children (so the guy I knew was in four foster homes before he got lucky and his last foster home helped him graduate school). He then went off to the Army.
Under all of that were Republican presidents, my friend. All except for Carter. I believe it was under him we started getting some free cheese and milk. That was nice.
Take your political rhetoric elsewhere or talk to people who lived through the poor times. I haven’t forgotten. I’m certain others haven’t forgotten. Maybe you just lived in a rich family.
Then they can give away money to people to claim they are helping 😂😂
Wow, some people were poor back then and some people were rich. How awful. Not at all like today. And this lady was literally shaking and in shock at this discovery. Doesn’t sound like someone with the soundness of mind to be worth listening to.