Some things to note : 1. The built-in sustain from his passive works a bit different than lifesteal where it isn't based on how much dmg he dealt. What i mean is it gives the same HP whether your target is the tankiest frontline or just a squishy mage. 2. For his ult, the missiles won't fire if you or your allies didn't hit the targets, so don't expect the ult to just barrages the backlines out of nowhere in teamfight. Take a look at 6:07, for example. Notice how the missiles didn't fire at Gao and Sun Bin even though both of them were in radius AND in vision of Kyoui's team. That's because they weren't hit by any attacks there. 3. For good partners with Meng Ya, heroes that deal DoT dmg/multi-hit atk are the best to help trigger his ult's missiles a lot faster. In this game, there was Liu Shan and you can see how it worked at 11:45. Other good partners with Meng Ya are Frost, Xiao Qiao, Allain, Kai, Nezha, and many more
@@kyouitv True, the ult's missiles will make it easier to chip enemies' HP down to Augran's execute range, not to mention Augran himself deal mostly DoT, so it'll be really easy to trigger the missiles
@@kyouitv Unless you have augran banned there will be no problem, the only thing missing is if some of the majority are not noobs or if they play with meng already, since Because this requires skill xd
His play style is totally different from meta marksman or other marksman in the game . This will be a pain since many of marksman users won't understand that.
Meng Ya Counter: For marksman - 1. Consort Yu (Long range 1st skill and immune phy dmg) 2. Erin (high burst damage) 3. Lady Sun (high burst, long range basic attack, dash 1st skill) 4. Luara (Harass, burst and blind effect from ult) 5. Shouyue (Burst and Long range) 6. A bit risky but Garo (Silent 2nd skill + slow, long range) .. Mage: 1. Kongming 2. Angela 3. Mai Shiranui 4. Daji 5.Gan & Mo 6. Shangguang 7. Liang 8. Xiao Qiao 9. Princess Frost .. Fighters: 1. Arthur 2. Mayene 3. Donghuang 4: Musashi 5. Ukyo Tachibana 6. Fuzi 7. Li Xin Domination/Light form 8. Lian Po 9. Liu Bang 10. Sun Ce .. Assassin/Jungling: 1. Kongming 2. Arthur 3. Wukong 4. Butterfly 5. Musashi 6. Dian Wei (full tank or semi tank) 7. Prince of Lanling 8. Li Bai 9. Luna 10. Lam 11. Nakoruru 12. Sima Yi 13. Zilong .. Tank/Roaming: 1. Liu Shan 2. Donghuang 3. Da Qiao (kinda) 4. Ziya (depending) 5. Sun Bin (yes.. darksystem can also counter him..) 6. Liang 7. Kui (also depend) ~~~~ The point is that all silent, heavy cc, slow, blind, burst, high durability heroes can easily kill or fight Meng Ya. Some of them can't kill him but can annoy/slow down him. Some of them depending in your skill (which is important because without skill, doesn't matter how strong your hero is, you'll easily die by someone above you). I'm speaking and giving this from experience btw, not just “source: trust me, bro”.
If someone read this, you either be one of the most knowledgeable about countering Meng Ya or Meng Ya user trying to search possible counter so they can be more on guard🤣
Based on what has been proven, the way it presses you is broken, but not so literally that it is broken in a certain sense. But the way it hurts you and pressures you is aggressive if you play it in a style that depends on it. The truth is that being a brawl stars player sometimes it is always based on aiming, But if it is car use, then it is zero skill But with him it's like the way of "skating", or kite, It's kind of weird in that sense, when I play it, it's like a feeling of freedom of mobility just by moving, even though I don't have movement skills, it feels like a unique way of attacking or when someone chase you When I have already done a damage test and two items of the lightning blade and judgment day, it is true that it does not work for them, because it seems that the developers could or something to prevent is that use this, already imagined as if Meng was already from the defensive offensive build with the 1 skill, it would be very broken to see that I only say this because the base damage of the two axes and the hammer are applicable like the pure sky, and if you have a synergy the acarna of stealth and critical with the hunt, it seems to have Rare synergy But it is very effective, in short Meng is already a hero that this requires being aware of the map and that is what he notes, and also knowing when you should launch the ulti if it is to pressure or at the right moment Since there are times when it is punishable if you do not use the basics and you attack, it may be a mistake and you may also have to launch yourself in some way or for it to be a teamfight I consider it more in a tiar s, since it may have too much potential in teamfight and solo q, although you should master it and be aware The bad thing is that there is way to counter it, it is with Garo, Loong, Lady Sun, since they limit it to you getting close, and with Lady Sun you can delete Meng already, since she has a lot of damage and that would be easy to kill But well, I'm just going to mention that there are most who will start banning him but if they ban you, you will have to pick a free Loong and successively they will beat you with garo
If i may add, Meng Ya actually still has some counterplays he could do even against bad matchups that you mentioned like Garo or Lady Sun. For one, against dash-y heroes like Lady Sun, Diaochan, Yao, etc, you should stop using Skill 1 as your main dmg source and instead rely on normal basic atk + ult procs. I'd say from my few games with him, most Meng Ya were over-reliant on Skill 1 for dealing dmg and barely used their basic atk, which were huge mistakes. For the others like Garo, Huangzhong, or Gan&Mo, it's more tricky because you'll have to rely on being stealthy by using the bushes A LOT. His Skill 2 is also going to be alot more important for triggering the ult's missiles. At the end of the day though, there's nothing else you could do BY YOURSELF, in which point you'll have to RELY ON YOUR TEAM, specifically assassins to deal with them
But mobile legends play style and hok have differences...also ml mindset doesn't gonna work on hok...while ml players play with unbalanced team hok first priority would be team based and balanced heroes
@@voidninja9134 I'm not comparing the two games. They're the same actaully. 3 lanes,Roamer,Jungler,Down laner, Up laner, Mid laner,Destroy towers to Win, Kill gives gold,Buying items to make ur hero stronger,etc so yeah. They're the same.
Some things to note :
1. The built-in sustain from his passive works a bit different than lifesteal where it isn't based on how much dmg he dealt. What i mean is it gives the same HP whether your target is the tankiest frontline or just a squishy mage.
2. For his ult, the missiles won't fire if you or your allies didn't hit the targets, so don't expect the ult to just barrages the backlines out of nowhere in teamfight. Take a look at 6:07, for example. Notice how the missiles didn't fire at Gao and Sun Bin even though both of them were in radius AND in vision of Kyoui's team. That's because they weren't hit by any attacks there.
3. For good partners with Meng Ya, heroes that deal DoT dmg/multi-hit atk are the best to help trigger his ult's missiles a lot faster. In this game, there was Liu Shan and you can see how it worked at 11:45. Other good partners with Meng Ya are Frost, Xiao Qiao, Allain, Kai, Nezha, and many more
augran + meng ya is going to be a nightmare duo
@@kyouitv True, the ult's missiles will make it easier to chip enemies' HP down to Augran's execute range, not to mention Augran himself deal mostly DoT, so it'll be really easy to trigger the missiles
@@kyouitv Unless you have augran banned there will be no problem, the only thing missing is if some of the majority are not noobs or if they play with meng already, since Because this requires skill xd
What is DoT? Btw Zhao Yun or Dr Bian is also a perfect partner Meng Ya could get (continuous damage)
@@Enjina0810 damage over time
This hero might be strong but the ban section is much stronger 💀
Nah, loong is still the priority to ban among marksman
But asian servers just worry about loong and augran asian first priority to ban them first
9:06 bro fell asleep in the bushes
His play style is totally different from meta marksman or other marksman in the game . This will be a pain since many of marksman users won't understand that.
Very helpful thats why ill subscribe to u thanks!!
Meng Ya Counter:
For marksman - 1. Consort Yu
(Long range 1st skill and immune phy dmg)
2. Erin
(high burst damage)
3. Lady Sun
(high burst, long range basic attack, dash 1st skill)
4. Luara
(Harass, burst and blind effect from ult)
5. Shouyue
(Burst and Long range)
6. A bit risky but Garo
(Silent 2nd skill + slow, long range)
..
Mage:
1. Kongming
2. Angela
3. Mai Shiranui
4. Daji
5.Gan & Mo
6. Shangguang
7. Liang
8. Xiao Qiao
9. Princess Frost
..
Fighters:
1. Arthur
2. Mayene
3. Donghuang
4: Musashi
5. Ukyo Tachibana
6. Fuzi
7. Li Xin Domination/Light form
8. Lian Po
9. Liu Bang
10. Sun Ce
..
Assassin/Jungling:
1. Kongming
2. Arthur
3. Wukong
4. Butterfly
5. Musashi
6. Dian Wei (full tank or semi tank)
7. Prince of Lanling
8. Li Bai
9. Luna
10. Lam
11. Nakoruru
12. Sima Yi
13. Zilong
..
Tank/Roaming:
1. Liu Shan
2. Donghuang
3. Da Qiao (kinda)
4. Ziya (depending)
5. Sun Bin (yes.. darksystem can also counter him..)
6. Liang
7. Kui (also depend)
~~~~
The point is that all silent, heavy cc, slow, blind, burst, high durability heroes can easily kill or fight Meng Ya. Some of them can't kill him but can annoy/slow down him. Some of them depending in your skill (which is important because without skill, doesn't matter how strong your hero is, you'll easily die by someone above you). I'm speaking and giving this from experience btw, not just “source: trust me, bro”.
If someone read this, you either be one of the most knowledgeable about countering Meng Ya or Meng Ya user trying to search possible counter so they can be more on guard🤣
Based on what has been proven, the way it presses you is broken, but not so literally that it is broken in a certain sense.
But the way it hurts you and pressures you is aggressive if you play it in a style that depends on it. The truth is that being a brawl stars player sometimes it is always based on aiming, But if it is car use, then it is zero skill
But with him it's like the way of "skating", or kite, It's kind of weird in that sense, when I play it, it's like a feeling of freedom of mobility just by moving, even though I don't have movement skills, it feels like a unique way of attacking or when someone chase you
When I have already done a damage test and two items of the lightning blade and judgment day, it is true that it does not work for them, because it seems that the developers could or something to prevent is that use this, already imagined as if Meng was already from the defensive offensive build with the 1 skill, it would be very broken to see that
I only say this because the base damage of the two axes and the hammer are applicable like the pure sky, and if you have a synergy the acarna of stealth and critical with the hunt, it seems to have Rare synergy
But it is very effective, in short
Meng is already a hero that this requires being aware of the map and that is what he notes, and also knowing when you should launch the ulti if it is to pressure or at the right moment
Since there are times when it is punishable if you do not use the basics and you attack, it may be a mistake and you may also have to launch yourself in some way or for it to be a teamfight
I consider it more in a tiar s, since it may have too much potential in teamfight and solo q, although you should master it and be aware
The bad thing is that there is way to counter it, it is with Garo, Loong, Lady Sun, since they limit it to you getting close, and with Lady Sun you can delete Meng already, since she has a lot of damage and that would be easy to kill
But well, I'm just going to mention that there are most who will start banning him but if they ban you, you will have to pick a free Loong and successively they will beat you with garo
If i may add, Meng Ya actually still has some counterplays he could do even against bad matchups that you mentioned like Garo or Lady Sun.
For one, against dash-y heroes like Lady Sun, Diaochan, Yao, etc, you should stop using Skill 1 as your main dmg source and instead rely on normal basic atk + ult procs. I'd say from my few games with him, most Meng Ya were over-reliant on Skill 1 for dealing dmg and barely used their basic atk, which were huge mistakes.
For the others like Garo, Huangzhong, or Gan&Mo, it's more tricky because you'll have to rely on being stealthy by using the bushes A LOT. His Skill 2 is also going to be alot more important for triggering the ult's missiles. At the end of the day though, there's nothing else you could do BY YOURSELF, in which point you'll have to RELY ON YOUR TEAM, specifically assassins to deal with them
He's definately good. Really cool kit.
His rage bar is easy to fill.
note : his 1st skill can also damage turrets
Where do you think he sits in the meta convo like a letter grade s or a through F
@@emacliftsalot solid A
Got dozen mvp with hew hero than meh. I think it's always the same with new Hero
looks like Erin can still easily burst him, thank god hes not that OP
Babu don't u sleep? Go and take rest 🎉
lol
Why Doomsday wont work? i dont understand that part
Doomsday only works when you just do basic attack
And it doesn't trigger when using 1st skill
@@kyouitv i see. No items with lifesteal or pierce, right?
Yup he already has a lot of sustain and cooldown reduction in his kit
@@kyouitv thanks for the answers. I built him wrong hehe
@@linkinpark8628 his standard build is already his best item build
Oh yes I could use him properly. His skill 1 is the same as Kimmy's skill 1 in MLBB so no problem for me.
But mobile legends play style and hok have differences...also ml mindset doesn't gonna work on hok...while ml players play with unbalanced team hok first priority would be team based and balanced heroes
@@voidninja9134 I'm not comparing the two games. They're the same actaully.
3 lanes,Roamer,Jungler,Down laner, Up laner, Mid laner,Destroy towers to Win, Kill gives gold,Buying items to make ur hero stronger,etc so yeah. They're the same.
Gg ini hero
Now how do we counter Meng Ya?
I already explained his weakness in the video
@@kyouitv yeah I was talking about the heroes that counters Meng Ya
@@jules___ he doesn't have mobility so any hero with high mobility would work.
Any heroes that can poke or burst him from a far
And any high engage heroes will easily destroy him
Bruh are those bots😂
Now I will learn how to use mengya thank you 🫡
@HOKyato then I learned from you 😂
@@nguyenx9 Lol 😂