John, it has been a long time since I would religiously spend 4 to 8 hours an evening watching and rewatching every fusion video from you & other content creators. I have recently had a thought after jumping back into doing some machining work that there is a lot of stuff all over fusion that is waiting to be discovered and here you are with such content.
I personally avoid using and recommending the use of MFG model outside of nesting. The fact that it hides model data and is awful with assemblies puts me off them. I'd much rather get the same result via Derive and Referenced Designs. Inserting a Vise into a Design means any templated Joints still work, you don't get that with Derive into MFG model and last time I checked you can't insert referenced designs into mfg model. But that's the beauty of these things, there's lots of ways to achieve things and everyone has an opinion or preference. Not to mention Devon being a world class peddler of F360. It was a refreshing format to see this on the channel. Great work to both of you.
I agree with most of the comments, that the little secrets, tips and processes are so valuable! I'm new-ish to Fusion but this type of video with an expert who uses it all the time and understands inside and out is great.
Changing colors for different models is great...perhaps someday Autodesk will add the ability to just easily change colors or bodies / components rather than requiring assignment of material or other properties....someday
Geez, I've been using manufacturing models since they came out and this is the first time I've heard you can use insert derive to put fixturing models in that workspace. I've always thought you couldn't insert models into the manufacturing model because it errors if you try to do that. I really wish the error message said "consider using insert derive" or something. That drastically cleans up my design environment. Now the only thing I wish fusion would let you do is select geometry in the machine model (in the setup) for the WCS. For me, I've got an old VF2TR with a permanently mounted zero point and a static G54 that never gets changed because my machine doesn't have DWO or TCP. So in every CAM model for that machine, I have to pull in a model of the zero point platter with that machine's distinct WCS (has to be the intersection of the two rotary axis) and then choose that sketch point in the setup. I wish that sketch point could just live on the machine model and let me choose the WCS from there. Instead, if I had two similar machines with slightly different G54 locations for the zero point, I would have to add another zero point model into the manufacturing model and make sure I select that machine's G54 to run that setup on the second machine. It would also be good for machines with your fixture plate installed too, you could have the machine's static WCS be a point on the fixture plate, and use the fixture attach point in the setup menu to set your fixture in the machine, and then you don't need to indicate a WCS for that mod vise or whatever or bring the fixture plate into the manufacturing model at all. The machine model could have all the information for the WCS in it.
Fairly new still to F360 and about to manufacture my first part, very exciting. Was wondering, when doing a new setup, what's the difference between a milling and a cutting operation?
I really don't like any of the environments in Fusion 360, so I stick with the default since it's the least bad. But River Rubicon looks pretty good! I miss from Inventor the sort of 'default' blue gradient background. Really wish Fusion had an option for stock view environments so I can pick specific background colors, sketch and highlight colors, etc. But wow I never knew about these Mfg Models and this is probably gonna totally change the game for me going forward.
I've found manufacturing models to significantly slow down Fusion 360... Entering the manufacturing space gets slow (recalculating derived stuff). Nothing terrible exotic, just inserted a few vices... (Mac OSX on M1 machine. Rest of Fusion is super fast. )
I would love to use the Manufacturing Model however I am using multiple sheets with many parts and am unable to create a drawing with the nested parts. I have to resave the finished Model and use that to nest and send to the cnc with a drawing. Thx for the video.
This feature has been moved to another "add on" hasnt it. Just like they F people with 5 axis features in standard license that are now in the manufacturing license. And they did that - within a running contract. I love Fusion360. But I really hate these kind of ways they screw customers over sometimes. Big software businesses seem to have so much power sometimes.
Devon, your audio is so clean. 10/10
Whenever you meet with him on zoom you look around to make sure he’s not in the room his mic is insane
John, it has been a long time since I would religiously spend 4 to 8 hours an evening watching and rewatching every fusion video from you & other content creators. I have recently had a thought after jumping back into doing some machining work that there is a lot of stuff all over fusion that is waiting to be discovered and here you are with such content.
Really liked the format of this video, would enjoy deep dives on lesser understood features from time to time. 👍
Agreed
Very helpful, the questions and examples were well thought out. Thanks John and Devon. Look forward to more videos like this.
Heard you guys talking about this on the Business of machining and it instantly made re-working/ adjusting molds so much easier. Thanks guys
I personally avoid using and recommending the use of MFG model outside of nesting. The fact that it hides model data and is awful with assemblies puts me off them. I'd much rather get the same result via Derive and Referenced Designs. Inserting a Vise into a Design means any templated Joints still work, you don't get that with Derive into MFG model and last time I checked you can't insert referenced designs into mfg model.
But that's the beauty of these things, there's lots of ways to achieve things and everyone has an opinion or preference. Not to mention Devon being a world class peddler of F360.
It was a refreshing format to see this on the channel. Great work to both of you.
I agree with most of the comments, that the little secrets, tips and processes are so valuable!
I'm new-ish to Fusion but this type of video with an expert who uses it all the time and understands inside and out is great.
Changing colors for different models is great...perhaps someday Autodesk will add the ability to just easily change colors or bodies / components rather than requiring assignment of material or other properties....someday
This is groundbreaking. I love it
Geez, I've been using manufacturing models since they came out and this is the first time I've heard you can use insert derive to put fixturing models in that workspace. I've always thought you couldn't insert models into the manufacturing model because it errors if you try to do that. I really wish the error message said "consider using insert derive" or something.
That drastically cleans up my design environment.
Now the only thing I wish fusion would let you do is select geometry in the machine model (in the setup) for the WCS. For me, I've got an old VF2TR with a permanently mounted zero point and a static G54 that never gets changed because my machine doesn't have DWO or TCP. So in every CAM model for that machine, I have to pull in a model of the zero point platter with that machine's distinct WCS (has to be the intersection of the two rotary axis) and then choose that sketch point in the setup. I wish that sketch point could just live on the machine model and let me choose the WCS from there. Instead, if I had two similar machines with slightly different G54 locations for the zero point, I would have to add another zero point model into the manufacturing model and make sure I select that machine's G54 to run that setup on the second machine.
It would also be good for machines with your fixture plate installed too, you could have the machine's static WCS be a point on the fixture plate, and use the fixture attach point in the setup menu to set your fixture in the machine, and then you don't need to indicate a WCS for that mod vise or whatever or bring the fixture plate into the manufacturing model at all. The machine model could have all the information for the WCS in it.
Fairly new still to F360 and about to manufacture my first part, very exciting. Was wondering, when doing a new setup, what's the difference between a milling and a cutting operation?
Very good topics to know about it and also for my future working tasks,,, 👍
I really don't like any of the environments in Fusion 360, so I stick with the default since it's the least bad. But River Rubicon looks pretty good! I miss from Inventor the sort of 'default' blue gradient background.
Really wish Fusion had an option for stock view environments so I can pick specific background colors, sketch and highlight colors, etc.
But wow I never knew about these Mfg Models and this is probably gonna totally change the game for me going forward.
Very informative and well edited video 👌
This was great. Very informative
Just Heard BOM 297. Audio thing you're looking for is a Mic preamp. I have a DBX 286s ($250 ish). It's a great noise gate / eq and compressor.
*Providing you're using XLR cables. If not look up Mic preamps / processors for your setup
Video on setting up a new UMC, with CAD/CAM, workflow & templates would be interesting to see!!
Last time I tried using manufacturing models a couple years ago, I found them to be very buggy. Will have to give them a shot again.
I've found manufacturing models to significantly slow down Fusion 360... Entering the manufacturing space gets slow (recalculating derived stuff). Nothing terrible exotic, just inserted a few vices...
(Mac OSX on M1 machine. Rest of Fusion is super fast. )
Absolute great video
I would love to use the Manufacturing Model however I am using multiple sheets with many parts and am unable to create a drawing with the nested parts. I have to resave the finished Model and use that to nest and send to the cnc with a drawing. Thx for the video.
So great info. You are gonna get too much buyers after this video 😂
Great working good job
Full of great tips. Now I don't have to have my fixture open up as my part of my component.
Why no plunge milling option. Adding point in sketch in pocket or slot is taking time
Agree. Manually doing it is getting old.
@@justinsturgeon1 Yes.
This feature has been moved to another "add on" hasnt it. Just like they F people with 5 axis features in standard license that are now in the manufacturing license. And they did that - within a running contract. I love Fusion360. But I really hate these kind of ways they screw customers over sometimes. Big software businesses seem to have so much power sometimes.