1:34 My friends and I played this all thru high school. We threw out the rule about giving the Germans any advance notice of raids. My best friend always played the German side and he said he was smart enough to figure out what was coming, so he didn't need a "head start". He had a talent for seeing the "big picture", so he anticipated well. He was very hard to beat. Good times!
For an interesting alternative to combat, refer to 'The General', Vol. 18, #4 "Tactical Level Luftwaffe" by Kenneth Erbey. It takes longer but is more exciting, including special rules for jet aircraft to try bypass the escorting fighters. I distinctly remember doing sneak raids and escaping to Russia instead of back to England. Holding them in Russia for a turn or two to force the Luftwaffe to keep planes to watch out for them. Such memories come back that were forgotten, thank you for this.
I really like those red disks for bombed cities. That would help speed up planning for both sides. Your videos inspired me and my friend to punch my replacement set. It must be about 40 years since we past played LW. We are now enjoying an Advanced Game and in the October 1944 turn. As the American, I am making good progress, but I am concerned with the cities in Poland. I am about to shuttle out of Russia before the large amount of January 1945 German reinforcements arrive. Those nasty jets are building up to significant numbers. Bomber replacement points are low. LW is very entertaining with all the planning and predicting. We are having lots of fun dithering over dropping tanks or not. We are also spending a lot of time jockeying for first swipes with fighters. It always struck me as odd that only bombers can shoot back when attacked. I saw one game where it was allowed for fighters to shoot back immediately, and it made an already bloody game go insane.
Thank you for this series. I have only seen part 1, and not yet half of this eisode, but I enjoy it a lot and will watch the other partsas well, and most likely not only once. I post this already because I have a comment/suggestion about the gray discs. Why not put those under each unit which is not airborne? Seems it would be easier to handle airborne units when they have left that disc behind. I have the Decision Games version of Luftwaffe, still unopened. Do you know if it is similar? I have searched for it on UA-cam, but find little. Thinking about doing a series on it as you have done on this.
That is a good idea myk646 leave the disk behind. I have the decision games version too and was going to compare it. But I really don't have any time frame for the play. Thanks for watching.
I've had this game for well over a decade but never played it, I was collecting games at one point and have over 100, half of which, maybe more, I've never played. Funny to me that they made the Germans GREEN and Americans BLUE, going down stairs to check mine out to see if it's the same. Nice video BTW! Thanks!
Thanks for the memories. So hard to find the game. My brother and I played the game for hours in Renton WA. I sold the game in a move to CA for could not dind someone to play the game time it took tomplay the game.
Thanks a lot for the presentation and the playthrough. I remember having seen that game in shops, back in the 70’s. But for some reason I didn’t buy it and stuck to land warfare instead… Panzer Leader, etc. The ridiculous price in Paris shops, once it had crossed the Atlantic, maybe helped the no-buy decision. But I always wondered what it was like and I am grateful I can find out finally. Ah… one comment: the “w” in Luftwaffe is pronounced like an English “v” and every time I hear looft-oaffuh my ears burst. No wet consonant in German. I am all the more surprised because I thought the usual way to fake Germans speaking, like in tv series playing in the 60’s or 70’s, was to have them utter things like: “Vee vill find a vay…” And, yes, the consonant “v” in German is pronounced like an English “f”… it’s a complicated world.
@@NerdWorkshop1 - rahhhh… I’m sorry, but I couldn’t help; even with medical assistance. Two things turn me on in all the wargaming videos from the US, the UK, Canada, etc. The wet “w” in Luftwaffe… and the hard ending “k” in Reich - no, it ain’t pronounced “ra-eek”, unless you speak Dutch (and then the actual word is Rijk), but “ra-eesh”. Apart from that I’m perfectly normal - and don’t even mind when French names of people or places get butchered, which also happens a lot in wargaming videos. Thanks again for all your videos. They really are a plus, notably with your emphasis on old games.
Thanks for this video! I have this game but I haven't thought about it in some time. I'm going to take it off of the shelf and look at it. I would to know if this was ever available as a computer game.
This reminds me of Benny Hill's street sweepers vs the traffic wardens scene when they were trying to show the Battle over Britian on the tactical maps with the small poles pushing the little planes around. 😅
@@NerdWorkshop1 a lot of it still holds up. I saw this game for $15 or less used and was going to get it because of your videos and then when I went back to pick it up, it was gone 😅 they have a similar 1776 or something along those lines. Looks to be of similar design.
Very enjoyable game and excellent presentation. Whilst hardly a "detailed simulation" I'm still a bit surprised the designer included Me.110 and Ju.88 counters for the Luftwaffe - I'm doubtless wrong but I thought such were "night fighters"? None the less seems a fun game. Cheers.
Out of desperation, the Luftwaffe did decide to throw anything at the bombers that could fly and shoot. Be they night fighters or student squadrons, they all went up at some point. One needs to be very careful with the third raters to avoid the American fighters while they attempting to attrite straggler bombers.
There were units of specialist, heavily armed Bf 110G and Me 410 'bomber destroyers'. The initial limited range of the P-47 escorts encouraged the Luftwaffe to deploy these squadrons once the bombers were on their own. But after a few disastrous encounters with Mustangs, which had the range to go all the way to the target, they were rapidly withdrawn.
Yeah, I probably made a number of mistakes. hopefully it didn't affect game play later. I think the Americans just pushed the throttle to 11 :). Thanks for watching.
When attacked by fighters, the defender must drop tanks. If the attacker declines to drop tanks, the "E value", is reduced by 2. Also, there is no addition if attaching with a greater "E value"
1:34 My friends and I played this all thru high school. We threw out the rule about giving the Germans any advance notice of raids. My best friend always played the German side and he said he was smart enough to figure out what was coming, so he didn't need a "head start". He had a talent for seeing the "big picture", so he anticipated well. He was very hard to beat. Good times!
I think losing the advance notice of raids would make the game a little more balanced.
For an interesting alternative to combat, refer to 'The General', Vol. 18, #4 "Tactical Level Luftwaffe" by Kenneth Erbey. It takes longer but is more exciting, including special rules for jet aircraft to try bypass the escorting fighters.
I distinctly remember doing sneak raids and escaping to Russia instead of back to England. Holding them in Russia for a turn or two to force the Luftwaffe to keep planes to watch out for them. Such memories come back that were forgotten, thank you for this.
I actually have the Tactical Level Luftwaffe printed out Bill. Looking forward to playing it.
I really like those red disks for bombed cities. That would help speed up planning for both sides.
Your videos inspired me and my friend to punch my replacement set. It must be about 40 years since we past played LW. We are now enjoying an Advanced Game and in the October 1944 turn.
As the American, I am making good progress, but I am concerned with the cities in Poland. I am about to shuttle out of Russia before the large amount of January 1945 German reinforcements arrive. Those nasty jets are building up to significant numbers. Bomber replacement points are low.
LW is very entertaining with all the planning and predicting. We are having lots of fun dithering over dropping tanks or not. We are also spending a lot of time jockeying for first swipes with fighters. It always struck me as odd that only bombers can shoot back when attacked. I saw one game where it was allowed for fighters to shoot back immediately, and it made an already bloody game go insane.
That sounds like a lot of fun David. Let me know how it turned out. Take care.
"Fighters! 12 o'clock high!
Thanks for doing this game.
At times, fighters all over the place. Thanks for watching.
I haven't played since I was a kid, but I really loved this game. Nice editing. Really enjoyed the playthrough.
Thanks GenghisVern and thanks for watching.
Thanks for posting!
You're welcome and thanks for watching.
Thank you it's exciting can't wait for more !
More to come! Next installment is Sunday. Thanks for watching.
Excellent, really enjoyed this. Thanks!
Thanks for watching.
Thank you for this series. I have only seen part 1, and not yet half of this eisode, but I enjoy it a lot and will watch the other partsas well, and most likely not only once.
I post this already because I have a comment/suggestion about the gray discs. Why not put those under each unit which is not airborne? Seems it would be easier to handle airborne units when they have left that disc behind.
I have the Decision Games version of Luftwaffe, still unopened. Do you know if it is similar? I have searched for it on UA-cam, but find little. Thinking about doing a series on it as you have done on this.
That is a good idea myk646 leave the disk behind. I have the decision games version too and was going to compare it. But I really don't have any time frame for the play. Thanks for watching.
I've had this game for well over a decade but never played it, I was collecting games at one point and have over 100, half of which, maybe more, I've never played. Funny to me that they made the Germans GREEN and Americans BLUE, going down stairs to check mine out to see if it's the same.
Nice video BTW! Thanks!
Thanks for watching and hopefully you will get a chance to play.
Thanks for the memories. So hard to find the game. My brother and I played the game for hours in Renton WA. I sold the game in a move to CA for could not dind someone to play the game time it took tomplay the game.
It is a fun game and easy to get good used copies online. thanks for watching.
@@NerdWorkshop1 that is true....your first born child and lots of money
Great video series! Really enjoying it. Thanks!
Thanks you for watching!
Thanks a lot for the presentation and the playthrough. I remember having seen that game in shops, back in the 70’s. But for some reason I didn’t buy it and stuck to land warfare instead… Panzer Leader, etc. The ridiculous price in Paris shops, once it had crossed the Atlantic, maybe helped the no-buy decision. But I always wondered what it was like and I am grateful I can find out finally.
Ah… one comment: the “w” in Luftwaffe is pronounced like an English “v” and every time I hear looft-oaffuh my ears burst. No wet consonant in German.
I am all the more surprised because I thought the usual way to fake Germans speaking, like in tv series playing in the 60’s or 70’s, was to have them utter things like: “Vee vill find a vay…”
And, yes, the consonant “v” in German is pronounced like an English “f”… it’s a complicated world.
See what you did Eliane, now I have to work on my pronunciation of Luftwaffe. :) Thanks for watching.
@@NerdWorkshop1 - rahhhh… I’m sorry, but I couldn’t help; even with medical assistance. Two things turn me on in all the wargaming videos from the US, the UK, Canada, etc. The wet “w” in Luftwaffe… and the hard ending “k” in Reich - no, it ain’t pronounced “ra-eek”, unless you speak Dutch (and then the actual word is Rijk), but “ra-eesh”.
Apart from that I’m perfectly normal - and don’t even mind when French names of people or places get butchered, which also happens a lot in wargaming videos.
Thanks again for all your videos. They really are a plus, notably with your emphasis on old games.
Thanks for this video! I have this game but I haven't thought about it in some time. I'm going to take it off of the shelf and look at it. I would to know if this was ever available as a computer game.
It is available on Vassal
This reminds me of Benny Hill's street sweepers vs the traffic wardens scene when they were trying to show the Battle over Britian on the tactical maps with the small poles pushing the little planes around. 😅
I forgot about that, use to watch Benny Hill all the time. Thanks for watching.
@@NerdWorkshop1 a lot of it still holds up. I saw this game for $15 or less used and was going to get it because of your videos and then when I went back to pick it up, it was gone 😅 they have a similar 1776 or something along those lines. Looks to be of similar design.
Very enjoyable game and excellent presentation. Whilst hardly a "detailed simulation" I'm still a bit surprised the designer included Me.110 and Ju.88 counters for the Luftwaffe - I'm doubtless wrong but I thought such were "night fighters"? None the less seems a fun game. Cheers.
Out of desperation, the Luftwaffe did decide to throw anything at the bombers that could fly and shoot. Be they night fighters or student squadrons, they all went up at some point.
One needs to be very careful with the third raters to avoid the American fighters while they attempting to attrite straggler bombers.
It may not be totally realistic, but it is a fun game for sure.
There were units of specialist, heavily armed Bf 110G and Me 410 'bomber destroyers'. The initial limited range of the P-47 escorts encouraged the Luftwaffe to deploy these squadrons once the bombers were on their own. But after a few disastrous encounters with Mustangs, which had the range to go all the way to the target, they were rapidly withdrawn.
Interesting! When I did my test play through, I positioned my Axis fighters closer to the French border.
I tried to keep them central so they could takeoff on turn two. But I think I should have had more in the north.
you mentioned a custom sheet to keep track of each squadrons time in air, would it be possible to share with me?
I found it on boardgamegeek.com. just check out the Luftwaffe forum.
Sneak raid next week?
You got it Rory, Sunday to be exact.
First American move you moved the last bomber 4 spaces instead of 3?
Yeah, I probably made a number of mistakes. hopefully it didn't affect game play later. I think the Americans just pushed the throttle to 11 :). Thanks for watching.
When attacked by fighters, the defender must drop tanks. If the attacker declines to drop tanks, the "E value", is reduced by 2. Also, there is no addition if attaching with a greater "E value"
I missed that, hopefully that didn't make too much difference in the end. Thanks for watching it through.
@NerdWorkshop1 thanks for the video. btw, do you have a pbem list of players?
24:50 thank goodness the real war was not dependant on dice rolls 😂
very true.