Age of Mythology Retold - Chinese Civilization Deep Dive & Analysis

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  • Age of Mythology Retold is finally getting the Chinese civilization! Let’s check out the new “Immortal Pillars” teaser trailer and see if we can identify all of the references. (Apologies for my audio in this video my mic was undertuned)
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 349

  • @renazhang6880
    @renazhang6880 3 дні тому +121

    The winged dragon is definitely Yinglong, the dragon who helped the Yellow Emperor fight Chiyou. The floating female sage is probably Nuba, the drought demon who also helped the Yellow Emperor in the same battle. Both of them have been confirmed on this expansion’s Steam page.
    I also think the sage riding the Qilin creature is Jiang Ziya, with the creature instead being the Sibuxiang (cross of deer, ox, donkey and horse). The other Qilin creature with a sword in its mouth may be Yazi, one of the nine sons of the dragon that likes weapons and fighting. The winged tiger unit could also be the evil beast Qiongqi. The three giant dudes at 16:59 may be a unit version of Kuafu, the giant that tried to chase the sun. Finally, the Immortal Pillars look like they should be the pillars that Nuwa created to hold up the sky after she fixed it. It seems they will be a central element in the new campaign story, just like the Underworld Gates in the base game.

    • @Nahtan.9758
      @Nahtan.9758 3 дні тому

      how exciting

    • @ChillyEmpire
      @ChillyEmpire  3 дні тому +19

      Love this comment. So many great details that I missed - I’m gonna pin this comment!

    • @annaairahala9462
      @annaairahala9462 3 дні тому +2

      Yeah definitely Yinglong. And depicting them with wings is absolutely accurate

    • @renazhang6880
      @renazhang6880 3 дні тому +2

      @@ChillyEmpire Thank you so much! I was just so excited to see them really getting into the Shanhaijing (Classic of Mountains and Seas) for this one. I should definitely thank you for showing all the historical details and the presence of Nezha, couldn’t catch all of that myself since everything was happening so fast in the video!

    • @kaelthas9970
      @kaelthas9970 3 дні тому

      I wonder if world pillar would be Nuwa's wonder.

  • @TheMinepath
    @TheMinepath 3 дні тому +84

    14:14 The Mechanical ox almost certainly a reference to Zhuge Liang inventing mechanical oxen to transport grain for his army in one of his many northern campaigns against Wei and Sima Yi.

    • @ChillyEmpire
      @ChillyEmpire  3 дні тому +7

      Great call out! I didn’t know about this one

    • @elpistachio
      @elpistachio 3 дні тому +1

      Maybe it's a god power unit, a slow moving construct that heals/empowers your soldiers in battle within its LOS but it can also be either destroyed or captured by enemies.

    • @unidentifiedflavourfulobject
      @unidentifiedflavourfulobject 3 дні тому +1

      I'm hoping that's gonna be the drop site

    • @GARGANTUANMASKEDFISH
      @GARGANTUANMASKEDFISH 3 дні тому +1

      @@unidentifiedflavourfulobject My suspicion is that it's the unique resource depot for the Chinese - villagers deposit a bunch of resources into these mechanical oxen and then the oxen transport the resources back to a Town Center.

    • @jd2792
      @jd2792 2 дні тому

      all it shows was ajex was right to think the wooden horse would be able to fight

  • @ansettwise0005
    @ansettwise0005 3 дні тому +41

    4:13 That's not Pixiu, it's a 窮奇 Qiongqi, a beast of disasters, which is similar to a winged tiger
    7:10 I think it's called 檮杌 Taowu, another beast of disasters, featuring human face, tusks, and long tail
    12:20 It must be 蚩尤 Chi You, the main antagonist in the ancient Chinese history (and mythology). He was described as a gigantic figure, with four eyes and six arms. Also the main rival of the Yellow Emperor.
    20:21 It's known as 應龍 Inglong, Chinese dragons comes in many different species. Inglong is probably the only one with wings, they play as an important supporter to Yellow Emperor and other early kings in Chinese mythology.
    21:40 Although I know western people probably got their knowledge about Chinese mythology from Wukong and 西遊記 the Journey to the west. There's actually two books which are more relevant to the era of early China. One is called 山海經 Shanhaijing, or Classic of Mountains and Seas. It's like an encyclopedia of mythical people, creatures and places before Han Dynasty. And the other one is 封神演義 Fengshen yenyi, or Investiture of the Gods. Which the story is set in the end of the Shang dynasty. This old fella here, while riding a 四不像 Sibuxiang, holding a 打神鞭 Dashenbian(god spanking batton), we can tell he might be 姜子牙 Jiang Ziya, one of the finding father of Zhou dynasty, and the main protagonist of this novel.
    And with Ne Zha present, we can guess the Chinese campaign would have strong connection with Investiture of the Gods, because our boi Ne Zha is also an important character in the story.
    Please pin if this provides the detailed information needed?

    • @ChillyEmpire
      @ChillyEmpire  3 дні тому +5

      Great post! Thank you for the context ☺️

    • @yadakakadu
      @yadakakadu 3 дні тому +1

      Please be reminded that Rule of Cool might be involved in the final choices of characters, and global recognizability might take priority. However I am looking forward to units armed with "god spanking batton"-s. For reference: In the base campaign, Hades is used as an evil god, multiple times, when in reality, he was a benevolent, and perhaps only sane one (by modern standards). Or that the norse and ancient egypt were nowhere near to each other chronologically. Just a heads up.

    • @ChillyEmpire
      @ChillyEmpire  3 дні тому +2

      @@yadakakadu I think Poseidon is the "evil" god in the Campaign. He's the guy supporting Garg and you even fight his statue.

    • @yadakakadu
      @yadakakadu 3 дні тому

      @@ChillyEmpire I think Troy, the dream sequence, sometimes the pirates ? When it is not explicitly Gargarensis' forces but greek. Maybe Circe too? I got stuck at Troy in Retold, so I'm not sure if there were updates.

    • @times1132
      @times1132 3 дні тому

      封神演義 makes so much sense to me, and a campaign of its story would be so great

  • @micshork
    @micshork 3 дні тому +72

    It definitely feels like they are throwing Tale of the Dragon out the window and starting from scratch. Newer looking units and possibly new major gods and god powers. I think they will most likely have a new single player campaign too.
    I wouldn’t mind a reworked version of the TotD campaign added as a supplementary DLC like The Golden Gift later down the road for like $5.
    I hope we do get more beyond this and the next expansion. While Aztec will most likely be next I also want Celt, Rome, Japan and India. Persia and Slavic maybe. Africa and Native America might be difficult to do.

    • @horakhty2217
      @horakhty2217 3 дні тому +2

      I do vaguely recall something about making Native America would be problematic and avoided but I have no idea where do I remember it from so don't quote me on that.
      Japan would be probably more down the line since otherwise it might be bit overload on eastern myth. Also I do know a little about Roman pantheon (I believe Isis was in it too) but I do not have any knowledge about their culturally unique creatures, myth units if you will. Are there enough to fill out a roster?
      On that note a video about Roman civilization from Chilly would be a interesting watch.

    • @jvy012896
      @jvy012896 3 дні тому +8

      ​@@horakhty2217 because a lot of actual people still follow the native religious practices

    • @SashaKarsavina
      @SashaKarsavina 3 дні тому +7

      @@horakhty2217 The ROmans stole everything from the Greeks there'd be little to go on: they were cultural vultures for the most part! Celt/Slav hybrid would be great tho. Aztec is easily the most rounded out pantheon however.

    • @micshork
      @micshork 3 дні тому +13

      @@SashaKarsavinaI disagree. As someone who has studied Greek and Roman history there are multiple places that they differ. But let’s not argue about that.
      I do think Celtic would be amazing though.

    • @raquetdude
      @raquetdude 3 дні тому +7

      Given location wise it would be Aztec… could see another one being Tengri, something sub Saharan.
      Indian / Hindu is a nope and Celtic / Slavic is too specific and Norse has those regions covered already.

  • @Diahborne
    @Diahborne 3 дні тому +64

    China will grow larger. :D

    • @TheNozdurmo
      @TheNozdurmo 3 дні тому +15

      Hmmm, let's take a look!

    • @cheeseyboy2121
      @cheeseyboy2121 3 дні тому +14

      Ahhh yes that's a good start.

    • @boonchiun
      @boonchiun 3 дні тому +13

      Sorry sir, I can't build there.

    • @paulsd9255
      @paulsd9255 3 дні тому +16

      I build for China!

    • @General-F
      @General-F 3 дні тому +2

      Heheh C&C Generals reference.

  • @raquetdude
    @raquetdude 3 дні тому +39

    Dude plz do a play through / let’s play of the campaign when it comes out

  • @raynightshade8317
    @raynightshade8317 3 дні тому +29

    The heroes were not getting knocking up by the Titan attack. It was the Great Flood Godpower

    • @ChillyEmpire
      @ChillyEmpire  3 дні тому +16

      Yknow what. You’re completely right. HOW the HELL did I miss that?? 😅

  • @Stoildan
    @Stoildan 3 дні тому +19

    the minotaur creature with 6 hands seems like it will grow during the game. idk how everyone missed this. Its shown as a little guy and then as a huge titan-sized creature.
    My guess is - its a creature you get at the start of the game when playing with a certain major god and the whole gimmick of that god is upgrading that guy. Cus I highly doubt that there is going to be 2 creatures with the same models but one of them is titan-sized. Also there is the possibility of it being just a campaign villain or something like Gargarensis.

    • @R4ZORLIGHT
      @R4ZORLIGHT 2 дні тому

      Like Jeanne d'Arc in Age of Empires IV, sounds intresting.

    • @karnak4188
      @karnak4188 2 дні тому +1

      I think it's clearly a campaign hero/entity. Maybe im wrong but I think it will be like that.

    • @rishisaaptacha
      @rishisaaptacha День тому

      Probably a campaign asset similar to the giant son of osiris in the new tutorial.

  • @xefjord
    @xefjord 3 дні тому +22

    Damn they really went all in on the Chinese. Mega hype.

  • @87JJosh
    @87JJosh 3 дні тому +22

    You make a 28 minutes video out of 60 seconds video
    You make gold out of nowhere
    Next time the devs should let you do the work, nice video

    • @ChillyEmpire
      @ChillyEmpire  3 дні тому +9

      My recorded video was 1 hour 20 min. I had to shave it down significantly 😅

    • @yadakakadu
      @yadakakadu 3 дні тому +1

      We got Sobek and petsobek because of Giant Grant, so there is precedent.

  • @estefanofarias8130
    @estefanofarias8130 3 дні тому +24

    Cool to see that you actually know the name of the creatures, I totally expected this to be a slop video that narrates whats on the screen. Gladly surprised

  • @bookwyrmbaneoftheplothole8500
    @bookwyrmbaneoftheplothole8500 3 дні тому +7

    I wonder if there’s no special “hero mounted on a Qilin” unit and that’s just the Qilin’s new special feature that they replaced it’s whole “healing everything around it when it dies” thing with, maybe now they can have a hero mount them giving bonuses to both the hero and Qilin or maybe just allowing them to move around faster.

  • @duongtieuta223
    @duongtieuta223 3 дні тому +4

    21:39 Jiang Ziya holding god beating rod and the 5 elemental flag, the 6 arms titan is most likely Chiyou, the bull king should be using a big axe instead. The winged dragon should be Yilong, vassal of the Yellow Emperor in his fight with Chiyou

  • @YourTamedLion
    @YourTamedLion 3 дні тому +15

    First !
    So cool that the hype just keeps going for AoM .

  • @Dragons_Armory
    @Dragons_Armory 3 дні тому +6

    Hmmm a great analysis as always. And thanks for the shoutout
    One thing that I noticed is that many of the units likely have a shield on their back because they might have 2 modes, or if they are stationary they get to automatically "deploy" into a defensive mode where by they place the shield in front of them and then receive some defensive bonuses.
    The wooden ox was definitely a reference to Zhuge Liang's wooden oxes 木牛流马. Reportedly they were able to allow a single soldier to carry a huge amount of supplies and munitions in extended campaigns. Most historians believed they are likely specially designed wheel barrows that has a large stable crate on top and to the sides. But Im not surprised the game took on a more mythical interpretation for them. Mainly that the retelling of these nearly miraculous units were framed in the same way as if Zhuge Liang had invented these wooden automatons.
    The sages we see could be the 8 immortals or some variation of them.
    The cavalry decision looks interesting, looks like China will have 2 type of cavalry, a versatile light melee/ ranged cavalry (like a Chinese version of the AOE2 Ratha) meant for fast and versatile roles and a more dedicated heavy cataphract meant for Hippius and Contarius role.
    I do find the inclusion of the cataphract interesting, not in that they were included. Heck China had TWO Jin dynasties that were spelled differently, and from 1000 years apart but both had powerful cataphracts. Looks like the version they went is the one from northern Chinese dynasties circa around Northern Wei. An interesting choice to see that implemented. Mainly in that often in RTS we've never see China represented with exceptional cavalry. Often they were supposed to be a defensive econ and research faction etc. But not unwelcomed either. 1. China literally DID had heavy cavalry and when the dynasties were powerful with them. Now that I think about it, other factions were not necessarily known for their cavalries either. Yes Egyptians had chariot archers and elephants but those were not true cavs, Either were Vikings, Atlanteans, and Greeks. So I guess compared to them China does have that edge.
    I kind of like that they did not go with the gunpowder role. Mainly in that then this version of China might be too powerful. Though considering that gunpowder was invented likely by Daoists alchemists if they did include it it'd be fitting too lol.

    • @FlippableFlappy
      @FlippableFlappy 3 дні тому +1

      The shield on the back is to see how many upgrades the unit has, because the pierce armor upgrade changes the shield model so you couldnt tell if there was no shield. Its just visual

    • @عآآزفہةعلىہےآآوتہآآرآآلہحز-ض5ث
      @عآآزفہةعلىہےآآوتہآآرآآلہحز-ض5ث 3 дні тому

      ​@@FlippableFlappy Why don t the Romans have cataphracts?

    • @Dragons_Armory
      @Dragons_Armory 2 дні тому

      @@FlippableFlappy That explains it. Yeah that make sense.
      I wonder if they might do the same to the Japanese as well (some time in the future) since they'd be more pronounced with 2 handed weapons and general lack of shields (unless their ashigarus can place immobile screens in front of them)

  • @leogunnemarsson4178
    @leogunnemarsson4178 3 дні тому +4

    The second titan may just be a campaign titan. Atlantis has four if you count their campaign titans. But only one used in normal games.

    • @Nirual86
      @Nirual86 2 дні тому +1

      yeah if you count up the totals that expansion had about as many campaign-exclusive titans as actual titans. Especially if you count the reused Egyptian Guardian. If the new campaign is including any Titans it would only be reasonable to expect there to be a counterpart there too.

  • @qcop4921
    @qcop4921 3 дні тому +3

    21:42 likely reference to Jiang ziya, a taoist main character in Fengshen novel where he is tasked to coronate many of god patheon in the Jade emperor courts, including the 4 heavenly kings. His personal weapon is the immortal-banishing cane, can mortally wounds any immortal that isn't stronger than its level. That kirin is also his personal mount, lended by his master 元始天尊

  • @DM-zi2up
    @DM-zi2up 3 дні тому +4

    Sorry I can't pronounce the units and don't mean to be disrespectful of this culture. But my guess is that the giant boi with the nipple eyes and the multi handed bull thingy are not titans but upgraded myth units in Wonder Age, similar to the upgraded Jotun of the Norse. Also, no way in hell WuKong is not like an Arkantos type of hero.

  • @TheMrYadrian
    @TheMrYadrian 3 дні тому +1

    10:04 That's a amphibious Mythical unit which is one of the four popular chinese animals - the snake turtle or 'black turtle'.

  • @typervader
    @typervader 3 дні тому +2

    I think what i can gather. The immortals will now each be a unquie unit, rather then a copy pasta. You have like the female monk as one, the calvary one as another.
    Then, it seems like they have a muti-brach system for myth units. prehaps you can pick a main unit but then side upgrades to change them from like the white tiger to the tirger with wings.
    The mechical ox i have a feeling is part of their favor/villager system. The likely did away with Gardens complety, so they have a mix of an ox cart, but also maybe used for their favor system?

  • @ageofempires
    @ageofempires 2 дні тому

    Thanks for checking out the trailer and sharing your thoughts!

  • @paulsd9255
    @paulsd9255 3 дні тому +3

    I'd be surprised if they don't try to put on some last-minute changes to pivot towards Black Myth Wukong

    • @ChillyEmpire
      @ChillyEmpire  3 дні тому +3

      Maybe that’s why we don’t see Wukong right now. He’s being refactored

  • @lifes40123
    @lifes40123 12 годин тому +1

    dwarves invented gunpowder in this universe, not china.

  • @angelcrush3320
    @angelcrush3320 3 дні тому +1

    I really hope for not just more civ's, but also for more campaign's in the quality of the old ones ❤

    • @s.w.4409
      @s.w.4409 2 дні тому +1

      It's already confirmed this expansion will add a new campaign as well.

  • @TARDISES
    @TARDISES 3 дні тому +1

    12:15 One thing that people noticed about this part of the teaser was... the towers in the distance on the right. Specifically, they're Mirror Towers. Which means that, unless it's a placeholder asset, we've probably got Atlanteans in the campaign as well.

    • @ChillyEmpire
      @ChillyEmpire  2 дні тому

      WOW how did you spot that

    • @TARDISES
      @TARDISES 2 дні тому

      @@ChillyEmpire I was not the first to spot it, others had already gone through it frame by frame and posted zoomed-in screencaps of them.

  • @juanpena8642
    @juanpena8642 3 дні тому +7

    Minute 10"02. That is the black turtle! One of the 4 main animals of the Chinese mythology, as you explained at the beginning. It looks identical to the picture you showed on minute 4:02.

  • @jdatin770
    @jdatin770 3 дні тому +1

    Oh snap the campaign gotta be awesome for this. I hope they do a sun wukong part of it, kinda like the dreams missions of the Arkantos campaign.
    Edit: Imagine myth unit style gods from this civ

  • @ashina2146
    @ashina2146 3 дні тому +1

    It seems they go for the Chinese Design in AoE2 and AoE3, where their main design is having a lot of unit types that needs to work together, considering that they have 3 Cavalry Types(Cataphract, Light Cavalry and Horse Archers), 3 Infantry Types(Ji Soldier, Spear & Shield and Heavy Swordsmen), and then 3 Archer Types(Archer, Zhugenu and Javelineer)
    Though they could follow the Greek Design as they only have 2 of each Infantry, Archer and Cavalry Types with probably the Cataphract, Heavy Swordsmen and Zhuge Nu being Major or Minor God's Unique unit

  • @arckanon13
    @arckanon13 3 дні тому +2

    LETS GOOO love how excited you are to see the azure dragon!! hehehe

  • @R4ZORLIGHT
    @R4ZORLIGHT 2 дні тому +1

    Was waiting for the video, i don't know anything about chinese mythology and wasn't expecting for them to release or tease the chinese so soon. Great and very deep analysis from you!
    Hyped. I hope China won't be overpowered.

  • @Zahri8Alang
    @Zahri8Alang 3 дні тому +1

    "Buddhism is still very much a comtemporary religion"
    *stares at Hinduism

  • @DCdabest
    @DCdabest 7 годин тому

    "Mythological Buildings" is definitely something I wish we saw more of in the game. Unique buildings that give you special troops, god powers, techs or abilities.
    They went that way with Wonders and I think that was an excellent choice.

  • @zoaroakgenus3462
    @zoaroakgenus3462 2 дні тому +1

    1:27 Basculegion from pokemon

  • @turmoilturmoil9022
    @turmoilturmoil9022 2 дні тому

    This DLC is game version of “Investiture of the Gods” 封神演義
    The old guy riding qilin is possibly Jiang ziya 姜子牙

  • @Isvoor
    @Isvoor 17 годин тому

    All human infantry can get shields in AoM. Well, a few exceptions.
    Some human units might be restricted to specific gods, like how Greeks have myrmidons for Zeus, bellybows for Hades...

  • @kryskiller666
    @kryskiller666 2 дні тому

    The minotaur-looking mf with the four arms and all the weapons honestly reminded me of Final Fantasy V's Gilgamesh. I don't know shit about Chinese mythological stuff, so thanks for the video.

  • @Sirmenonottwo
    @Sirmenonottwo 16 годин тому

    Historically the chinese civilzation DLC was trash. Highly unbalanced and almost everything was just a reskin of units from other civs. The balance was the worst part of the DLC. All the chinese civs simply wrecked face with no skill what so ever. Some may have enjoyed that but I hated it.

  • @GatochanBolivia
    @GatochanBolivia 3 дні тому +2

    Great trailer review video bro, you really know your stuff 😎👌

  • @karnak4188
    @karnak4188 3 дні тому +1

    I was waiting for you to cover it since you know well chinese mythology. Thanks !
    PS : I was suggesting in your concept video no gunpowder for china, im quite happy about that.

  • @cyborgparrot1996
    @cyborgparrot1996 День тому

    Since it's release date is labelled as coming soon on the Steam Store page maybe it'll be out before this year ends?

  • @klavicus2276
    @klavicus2276 2 дні тому

    Thanks for the analysis! Liked your concept (except for the gunpowder)
    Like all the new myth units coming with this DLC except for the monkey-demon brood and the wooden ox who moves too much like a child’s toy for my personal taste. But maybe we get a better look at them or their designs are not finished yet (?)

  • @mausolus8466
    @mausolus8466 3 дні тому

    I have to say beforehand, I know NOTHING about Chinese mythology, and this hint comes from Titan Quest, where I noticed similar beast, but that "winged tiger" might as well be Qiong Qi, almost identical design was used in Eternal Embers DLC.

  • @Vesmir789
    @Vesmir789 2 дні тому

    Towards the end I had a sudden thought. Seeing the "meteor" god power and also you mentioning Hou Yi got me thinking: what if the Chinese hero mechanic is that you get a specific named hero as part of your minor god choice and age-up? Perhaps choosing a certain minor god grants you Hou Yi as a hero as well as a god power where the 9 suns come crashing down to earth. I've been wondering this whole time what the Chinese hero mechanic would be, and this could be a cool way to do it. I'm very glad they may potentially be more like the Greeks, in the sense of having fewer named heroes rather than generic mass-produced heroes. Makes sense since China has so many named characters to draw from.
    Great video btw, definitely the most in-depth review I've seen. So glad you pointed out Ao Kuang's undersea palace in the first shot, as well as pointing out the Black Tortoise rather than calling them dragon turtles. Really curious what the deal is with the Chiyou bull creature, if it's a myth unit that gets bigger and stronger over time, or if it gets huge with a god power, or if its titan-sized version is campaign-specific. I can't wait to see more of the Chinese and how they play!!

  • @TheAndi073
    @TheAndi073 2 дні тому

    If you ask me I think the entire teaser trailer was an absolute banger. I liked the music and I hope it is going to be the civs main theme. When we compare Tale of the Dragon to this, this looks more like a faithful expansion for Age of Mythology. Tale of the Dragon really felt more like a mod made by a player, not like a true expansion.

  • @tyranitararmaldo
    @tyranitararmaldo 2 дні тому

    The two different tigers actually don't seem to share a model. The way their move their back legs is quite different, with the winged one bending them a lot more (implying more weight), while the White Tiger is much more gracile. In fact the White Tiger overall looks thinner.

  • @slavislavchev5341
    @slavislavchev5341 3 дні тому

    The winged tiger kinda looks like Qiong Qi, one of the 4 great evils along with Tao Tie, Hundun, and Tao Wu. Although if that is Qiong Qi, I find it strange that we don't see Hundun anywhere for example.

  • @regalgiant1597
    @regalgiant1597 2 дні тому

    I am blown away with the amount of effort they are putting into this, the base game and atlantis was fine, it just felt like a graphical update overall and some minor tweaks, but this is areally adding to the game.
    Hope we get more mythic battles, Sigyrn is lonely in that section.

  • @wargames2195
    @wargames2195 2 дні тому

    Wow, they are going all out with the chinese civ, I'm seeing all 3 Kingdoms, Feng Shen references, only thing left is Journey to the West crew.

  • @Binary84
    @Binary84 2 дні тому

    Damn, the last time I played AoM was in high school. The very first iteration of AoM. Didn't really bother with the franchise after that but this caught my attention.

  • @MyYouTubeAZ12345
    @MyYouTubeAZ12345 3 дні тому

    Eager for this expansion! It will be released in Halloween or Noel? Players with Game Pass must pay for this, or even Premium Players have to pay?

  • @theowlogram888
    @theowlogram888 День тому

    There is a scene where the hook carts are attacking units instead of building, I wonder if they decided to make a siege weapon ment for melee combat

  • @grimripper1881
    @grimripper1881 19 годин тому

    So do you think they will make a hinduism religion civilization i really hope to see it added in

  • @ManchmalGaming
    @ManchmalGaming 2 дні тому +1

    Great analysis!

  • @Pulsar9788
    @Pulsar9788 3 дні тому +1

    I never played the extended version
    Can't wait for China looks really amazing

  • @Nahtan.9758
    @Nahtan.9758 3 дні тому +1

    this was shown wayyyy sooner than anticipated, im pumped

  • @romeoduque7297
    @romeoduque7297 День тому

    I hope they add other civilizations , like the baltics or the Indians, maybe the Japanese or the idk the incans

  • @Peyote-Poncho
    @Peyote-Poncho День тому

    I was thinking the same thing, China has so many units. It seems kind of crazy.

  • @ronalso5931
    @ronalso5931 2 дні тому

    @10:13 you just mention the black tortoise, and that is it, it's a tortoise with a snake tail, so they definitely going all four.

  • @miguelmolano6611
    @miguelmolano6611 2 дні тому

    I love your enthusiasm and excitement, it is so contagious. I can see you are passionate about this!

  • @cadewilliams3857
    @cadewilliams3857 21 годину тому

    Ah yes the Great Wall movie… featuring Matt Damon 😂

  • @antonioarcano7989
    @antonioarcano7989 2 дні тому

    This makes the Classics look lamer. The Greeks are as vanilla as they get I hope they get some tweaks in the future.

  • @kembel2761
    @kembel2761 3 дні тому +1

    So insightful! Your knowledge bleeds through - got a new subscriber!

  • @atretador2452
    @atretador2452 3 дні тому +2

    7:19 that is freakin rajang dude

  • @maxxi5180
    @maxxi5180 3 дні тому

    Maybe in Chinese, u can choose your dynasty and your gods, and your units and buildings become different

  • @krampusthestoryteller1416
    @krampusthestoryteller1416 2 дні тому

    What are you showing clips from here? This journey to the west series looks awesome.

  • @burningwings6788
    @burningwings6788 3 дні тому

    I think the snake in the water is the Black Turtle you said before in the video as that turtle has Snake as its tale in some story.

  • @hatorihorrus
    @hatorihorrus 3 дні тому +1

    So chinese will be civ that focus more human and hero unit

  • @Evenape
    @Evenape 2 дні тому

    Hoping for the jiangshi, war salamander; earth dragon, and Hundun

  • @hatorihorrus
    @hatorihorrus 3 дні тому +1

    No jianshi in this trailer maybe the ape like myth unit replace theme

  • @jinon2667
    @jinon2667 3 дні тому +2

    I BOW TO MY CHINESE OVERLORDS!

    • @EB-jf5oi
      @EB-jf5oi 3 дні тому

      You live in Laos or Cambodia bruh?

  • @jass7846
    @jass7846 2 дні тому

    the snake thing at 10:00 gotta be a Genbu right? (from persona)

  • @ZecTheZombie
    @ZecTheZombie 3 дні тому +2

    Ayo they got rajang

  • @ImStevan
    @ImStevan 2 дні тому

    There's no way this isn't 4 major Gods territory

  • @rakdosorthvet5031
    @rakdosorthvet5031 2 дні тому

    maybe the armour variants of the units are the armoury upgrades

  • @nilsscholz4474
    @nilsscholz4474 2 дні тому

    wished for japanese instead of chinese but nevermind

  • @DeanFWilson
    @DeanFWilson 3 дні тому

    Love your deep dive. Liked and Subscribed.

  • @darkfenix20000
    @darkfenix20000 3 дні тому +1

    i was waiting for your analysis

  • @qzeagh2241
    @qzeagh2241 20 годин тому

    I do not agree with the notion that "age of mythology is about representing mythology as it is in popular culture". That would make something like Artus Saga or der nibelungenlied viable picks for the game. In my opinion these would be very out of place in age of mythology.
    In my opinion, the notion of antiquity is very important to age of mythology. In the game you lead a people from some from some sort of Stone age to to an early civilization. You go through bronze to an early Iron age. At the same time. Technologically the civilizations are loosely at the same. the mythology that the people develop are true.
    For that reason, early Christian myths, for example, would seem very out of place in age of mythology.
    For this reason I dislike the inclusion of Song or Ming era armor , architecture or gunpowder. China in my opinion should go only up to an early Iron age. In this case, Han or warring States. If you cannot escape the pull of the three kingdoms that's fine too.
    I personally am against including any 3 kingdoms references, because when it was written Confucianism was already deeply embedded in the Chinese society, which I feel goes against the early mythological setting the game is going for.
    Chinese history has the problem that it looks all the same to westerners anyway. Conflating the styles of different time periods is basically pretending that it IS all the same.

    • @ChillyEmpire
      @ChillyEmpire  16 годин тому

      You don't go from stone or bronze to the early iron age.
      Norse depicted in this game go up to ~1000 CE. Greeks depicted in this game are classical-hellenistic period yet the mythological period is a thousand years older than that. Egyptians too are all over the place.
      This argument is silly and not backed by what we see in the game.

    • @qzeagh2241
      @qzeagh2241 5 годин тому

      ​​​@@ChillyEmpireThat's not what I was trying to say. Any preference for anything regarding the game is silly because it's a silly game. Obviously placing anything on a real time scale in age of mythology is pointless.
      That doesn't mean though that the game isn't going for some very vague notion of time period however. To me it is not an accident that every culture so far has researched bronze and iron weapons and everything in the game is pre-roman and pre-christian. That's what I mean with a vague sense of antiquity. Obviously concessions were made to pop culture and limited resources in research and general coolness Factor. Nobody thinks anything will hold up to scrutiny.
      It is my personal preference (and I don't claim it is any more than that) that this vague sense of antiquity maps very well onto a Chinese antiquity that is specifically pre-confucian and pre-buddhist.
      Put another way. It is theoretically possible that ensemble studios had a sequel to aom in mind that focused on early Christian myths as well as a mixture of Christian and pagan myths. If this game also included China, its representation of Chinese myths should only overlap a little with its aom1 counterpart.
      You might think otherwise. This is a case where every opinion is equally valid. To me a "best of 5,000 years" of China is incredibly boring. More focus is needed. It is like putting Maximilian knights next to roman legionaries and vampires next to medusas. Both are cool but they don't belong next to one another. Even in a game as ahistorical as Aom.

  • @sebipatru
    @sebipatru 3 дні тому

    "the sickle cavalary" are horse archers i guess...

  • @عآآزفہةعلىہےآآوتہآآرآآلہحز-ض5ث

    ‏‪20:28‬‏ Is he Stronger than Ned Hawke or weaker

  • @aghiscampeador6244
    @aghiscampeador6244 3 дні тому

    dude's as excited as me when I saw my boy nezha

  • @LibeliumDragonfly
    @LibeliumDragonfly 3 дні тому +1

    The yellow dragon is most definitely this:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinglong
    You even have the rain

    • @ChillyEmpire
      @ChillyEmpire  3 дні тому +1

      Nice find! You’re totally right. Interesting choice on Chinese dragon though. Not the first one I’d go with.

    • @LibeliumDragonfly
      @LibeliumDragonfly 3 дні тому +1

      @@ChillyEmpire Not really my pick either, but it really looks like they are going hard with like 3 story lines here, Nuwa patching up the heavens, you know, with the broken pillar and stuff, battle of Huangdi vs Chiyou, which the Yinglong took part in, and Investiture of the Gods timeline, hence Nezha and Yangjian, and potentially Jiang Ziya riding the Sibuxiang and wielding the god striking whip. Not sure why there are duplicates of him, could be just they made him into a myth units, could be they decide to make every immortal look like him, could be he has ability to create duplicates of himself...

    • @renazhang6880
      @renazhang6880 2 дні тому

      @@LibeliumDragonfly All three of these stories fit the feel of “ancient” Chinese mythology, as in before the arrival of Buddhism and more within the Bronze Age (Xia, Shang and Zhou dynasties). Heck, the entire plot of Investiture of the Gods takes place in the Shang dynasty when the last Shang king insults Nuwa and prompts her to release the nine tailed fox as a way to corrupt and punish him, leading to the rest of the crazy god and demon battles. I’d say this is a great way to express Chinese mythology outside the Buddhism-inspired Journey to the West universe, though I wouldn’t be surprised if Sun Wukong shows up.

  • @maxpower7113
    @maxpower7113 3 дні тому +1

    You're doing the work of the gods

  • @duckbread6496
    @duckbread6496 3 дні тому

    Does the expansion have a campaign? I don't remember it from the original game

    • @s.w.4409
      @s.w.4409 3 дні тому

      Yes, it will have a campaign.

  • @emrahagca99
    @emrahagca99 3 дні тому

    What is the animated movie you used in the video. I would definitely watch it :)

    • @s.w.4409
      @s.w.4409 2 дні тому

      It's a cut scene from the game Black Myth: Wukong.

  • @robmartin525
    @robmartin525 2 дні тому

    I like that the Titan is no longer some guy

  • @ExValeFor
    @ExValeFor 3 дні тому

    It's not ho-ho, it's ho-oh, I'm begging you

  • @TheMrYadrian
    @TheMrYadrian 3 дні тому

    10:23 or just upgraded Watch Tower?

  • @FunnyAsianClips
    @FunnyAsianClips 2 дні тому

    Chi You is the Hmong God of War

  • @user-wi5vi7dd3z
    @user-wi5vi7dd3z 2 дні тому

    Is there already an approximate release date?

  • @daftajax8830
    @daftajax8830 3 дні тому

    That's a Snake wrapped around a Turtle 10:05

  • @fatdictator8964
    @fatdictator8964 3 дні тому +1

    As a native Chinese, I really enjoy your videos.

    • @fatdictator8964
      @fatdictator8964 3 дні тому

      I feel that buildings in red and yellow colors look more like those from the Ming and Qing dynasties rather than Xia dynasty.

  • @Wvk5zc
    @Wvk5zc 2 дні тому

    Creative Assembly takes note for future Cathay DLCs

    • @royasturias1784
      @royasturias1784 2 дні тому +1

      And GeeDubz should print Armybooks and resin figs of Grand Cathay

  • @coolboysg
    @coolboysg 2 дні тому

    Where is Japanese ?
    Amaterasu
    Izanagi
    Izanami
    Raijin
    Fujin
    Myth units : Oni, Yuki Onna, Ryujin, Kitsune, OROCHI ❤

    • @LordInsane100
      @LordInsane100 2 дні тому +1

      Possibly coming later. We know that at least one more pantheon will be added after this, and given they scrapped Tale of the Dragons re-doing the Chinese as the first expansion was a pretty intuitive choice.

    • @coolboysg
      @coolboysg День тому

      @@LordInsane100 How many percent for Japanese to come, bro? :) I really like it

    • @LordInsane100
      @LordInsane100 День тому

      @@coolboysg I do deem it quite likely; maybe 50% if we "only" get the two expansions on the roadmap (it'd be a bit less, but there were apparently some things datamined during the beta), but rising sharply in likelihood after that.

  • @actuallyKriminell
    @actuallyKriminell 3 дні тому +1

    I would love to see the devs have an open discussion about the next pantheon. A lot of people think that mesoamericans would be a good fit. Me too.

    • @s.w.4409
      @s.w.4409 3 дні тому

      I think mesoamerica is most likely but I'd prefer mesopotamia.

    • @EB-jf5oi
      @EB-jf5oi 3 дні тому

      That will be the woke inclusion. Could Also be some sort of Wakandian civ

    • @s.w.4409
      @s.w.4409 3 дні тому

      @@EB-jf5oi Being multicultural is literally the point of AoM. Not everything is woke, stop being so paranoid.

  • @theguy5348
    @theguy5348 3 дні тому

    The hero is kinda resembles Louis Koo

  • @Teodor_Smith
    @Teodor_Smith 3 дні тому

    Damn, you know a lot of Chinese lore, have you studied Sinology?

    • @ChillyEmpire
      @ChillyEmpire  3 дні тому

      Nope just a nerd that grew up with this stuff 🙂.

  • @perrymeril
    @perrymeril 3 дні тому

    Why no Kung fu panda ( joking )

  • @the0glitter
    @the0glitter 19 годин тому

    10:09 It's a black tortoise

  • @sockmydadjenkins7025
    @sockmydadjenkins7025 2 дні тому

    It's name is HO-OH, not HO-HO....