Blind Grading Reveal: 1987 Fleer Basketball! Jordan, Magic, Bird, Barkley, Dr J 🔥
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- Geoff gets back his 1987 Fleer Michael Jordans and other top cards from PSA and SGC, and blind reveals the grades! Video sponsored by Fanatics Collect. ENTER THE FANATICS COLLECT $1,000 SITE CREDIT GIVEAWAY HERE: www.sportscard...
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More impressed that kid and his father shopped the exact same section of the store for the entire time the video was filmed
Ya that was super annoying.
I’m surprised more people weren’t looking in while Geoff was screaming
Must be in entertainment I'm guessing
@@thecardsociety there is no entertainment section in a card store. If your into cards the while store would be the entertainment section.
The Human Highlight Film never fails to deliver, and his ‘87 Fleer is such a cool looking card to boot; thanks for the fun video!
Great comment and I couldn't agree more my friend!! 💯
Love the PSA grade reveal videos -- good stuff
Great video Geoff. Love it when u and Mark open up old packs. So much knowledge between the 2 of you. Lookiung forward to the '81 box rip and many others with Mark.
1987 Fleer Basketball is the absolute toughest set I've ever graded. The printing issues are absolutely horrendous! Many can't be seen unless you use a magnifying glass.
In the 80’s nobody gave a crap about perfect centering and so on. Real collectors still don’t care..
@@velvetbear7184real collectors or broke ass collectors?
@@velvetbear7184real collectors care or the whole grading system wouldn’t exist. Off center Griffey UD cards were so annoying as a kid and still are. Print defects were less annoying. It was accepted back then because cards were cheap prior to UD in 89. Properly centered cards look better. Same reason a diamond with better clarity is worth more money. Humans like rarity and perfect cards are more rare especially from 40 years ago. God that hurts to type that 87 was almost 40 years ago. Back then 2025 might as well have been 2735 to me. Still waiting on my flying car
The excitement is awesome no matter what the value thank you for the reveal!!
Geoff,
Love this set. One of my favorites. I actually have the complete set in PSA 9/10 condition. I will most likely never be able to complete it in PSA 10 condition because of cards like Joe Berry Carroll. I can’t afford to put that type of money into commons, but that’s ok…I still love having a complete set graded in high condition.
I actually am working on the 1986 set in PSA 9 and the 1988 set in PSA 10 condition. I have really enjoyed trying to piece these together. There are a couple of higher priced ones in the 1988 set that are commons, but because of low pop…they command high prices, but not nearly as high as the 1987 low pop ones.
That 1988 Drexler is a killer in PSA 10
Nice Joe Barry Carroll. He is an Atlanta local and lots of fans
What’s crazy is the Joe Barry Carol looks noticeably off center from left to right to me, which shows how much of a racket the entire grading game is.
Card grading is definitely a scam ,especially the vintage,l think that the card companies put pressure on the grading companies to low grade vintage cards because they aren't making any money on them.
28:14 maybe a touch diamond cut too. Print is nice
Now send in all the sgc cards that are 8vand 8.5 and I bet the will get better grading
No way in he'll psa grade tuffer
The 10 is off center
Congratulations on the Joe Barry Carrol!
I haven’t watched this channel in a year and I randomly came back today. I remember that box break, amazing!!!
I have 3/4 of this set autographed!!!! Still working on it…. And most cards are immaculate….
I got all the star cards auto’d except the jordan… damn the jordan…. All the way from chicago here
You guys have something very rare and unique....get them slabbed dna'd is what I would look to do ....
That was a fun video . Remember when you guys opened it. Congrats on the Joe Barry who is most famous for being basically traded for Parish and McHale
The fact that you 2 completely agree that grading is subjective from one grading company to another. Why not do a comparison video using Tag's AI grading? There is a strong opinion out there that AI is where grading is headed. I'm not sure if I agree, but I do like their DIG report (clear transparency).
Completely agree. If people actually want unbiased detailed reviews of their card, TAG would be the way to go. But the hobby is all about value and profit now, so they go to the dinosaur monopoly company. It's sad.
@@dwiii1635 Everyone wants to maximize their profits. I don't blame them at all. It's only human nature.
@@vintagecollector5340 And it'll probably be the eventual death of the grift, I mean "hobby."
@@dwiii1635 Business has been a big part of the hobby for many decades. I don't see the hobby dying because of it. People getting burnt in the hobby will eventually just leave the hobby or learn to make smarter purchases.
TAG Grading is by far the best
These 2 r dopes. Bought a box for 10k spent almost a grand grading and for what? To lose several thousand dollars? Lol great job guys!
And made 10,000 from youtube on the two videos.
@hawk-du1yl lol ya right! 40k views doesn't equal $10k buddy.
Who cares it was fun and the guy is not hurting for money. He could do same with 86 multiple times
I'm sure they set out to buy a 10k box to lose 4k....wtf are you new to collecting? Every pack is a potential lottery ticket.....I applaud them for this break!
@@liverust5 u care...ur commenting
Awesome stuff
opening even 90s packs if they aren't stored right even with all the plastic wrap & everything you'd find that they're cracking or whatever, it varies
That's a gem mint card! Start dialing!
The sneaky sgc way out? 😂😏
Is that Tpot's Dad?
Geoff, would have been cool to slice the BBCE wrap at the lid and not across the front of box. People collect those.
87 is so tough especially the first 20 cards of the set.
Exactly!
Awesome video !!
Me I'm always watching you..from the Philippines
Never heard someone scream that loud for a 3 hundred dollar card
He screamed until he found out it was on,y a $300 card and then it was “oh, okay, that’s good” Like a little kid not getting what he wants. He probably thought is was a $5,000 card and his own app let him down.
Started collecting with this set.
Thanks - this was fun. Sadly like most box breaks there isn't money to be made (1987 Fleer box was about $12,000 + grading probably at $1,800 but sale prices maybe $6,000). Sorry.
I sent in a Dale Ellis that was pack fresh, perfect centering, perfect corners, and it came back a 6!
Because the whole world is against you. The card was a 10 but you are a victim.
Bahaha yep that's the 87 set for you.....but the alternative is blame the grading co
Those last ones are psa pop control at its finest
I have been collecting 1987 fleer strictly for the better part of the 2000s and I can tell you they are the toughest cards to get PSA 10s and not because of PSA but if you watch the video fully, and take note of what they are saying, and look at the comps side to side each card is different....remember my friend this was 1987 not 2024 cards....
@brianoneal2547 oh I know the difficulty. I've also seen psa give 10s to cards that in no way at 10s. Their consistency is terrible. Pop control would at least explain some of that.
@@richardbianco9674 no one is consistent
@@brianoneal2547sgc has been the most consistent. It's not even close. Cgc is but nowhere near as popular. Both psa and bgs are notorious for massively overgrading or undergrading. You can see the proof everywhere.
Is there any reason Geoff is anti-BGS grading? Guessing he gets special discounts from the bland label PSA.
Bgs is awesome....I have a few, and good cards....but way early on I made a decision to strictly collect PSA.....bias maybe so but I'm meticulous about my collection being uniform and of value
@@brianoneal2547 nothing wrong with that.
He's tied up with PSA obviously. They're in love.
What would you say to someone that brought a Joe Carroll card, and asking to trade for all 7 of your graded mjs, your gem mint 10 Wilkins, and all of those other cards? I think you'd laugh in his face lol. I know the last one sold for 4k, but those people willing to spend that kind of money on a nobody name are very few if you can find anymore of them at all.
I would never shell out 4 grand for a card of a player that used to be called "Joe Barely Cares" back in the day....
That's because neither of you are putting together a master set PSA 10 which when complete is worth 100k
Temu Topps Chrome Basketball boxes about to tank now Wemby and LeBron are pulled
Sgc is tougher on centering then any grader in the hobby bell that's why I love them
I have one of those Jordan stickers. I’ve had it since I was about 12 years old, over 30 years ago. Always have wanted to get it graded.
it annoys the heck out of me when people use box cutters on the boxes , take a few seconds extra to open the box carefully , I am sure many people would love to have them for displays without huge slice marks all over them ! .
It is ridiculous. Our fingernails are more than capable. 😂
I agree.....makes me nauseous....almost as bad as nails on a chalk board....one of the things I would like to add to my collection is an opened 87 box and maybe a pack
Just junkies tearing into their fix
The Father/Son managed to spend 33 minutes in 1 aisle....must have been some great cards in those cases.😂😂
They were paid by Jeff to.look like customers
Great reveal!!! I assume that PSA didn't catch the value on that 4K card and up charge you on the grading...?
That's a good question....I'm not a grader....but collect graded cards....would like to know that as well
Opening rare and expensive vintage boxes and packs is a losing investment and the dumbest thing you can do. The value is the fact that they are still in tact and unopened and you’re not going to get high grades on most of the cards because of all the low printing quality. Even high grades you’ll lose your money. Only way it makes any sense would be like what Jeff is doing having a big following and using it for content.
I am confused, I thought you were exclusive PSA. Changed your mind? What makes you decide to send a card to which grader?
Cost
Dominique Wilkins so under valued..he got overshadowed in an Era such great talent. Would dominate today little like Ant
He was not. He just wasn't in the top 10 of his era. Maybe not top 15-20.
Great player not a great team. I agree. You can only wonder if he had gone to a big market team.
You made my point for me. Everyone knows if he had been surrounded by talent like Pippen he would have a better storied career and rank higher. Basketball is a team sport and it reflects overall @@patrickmcdaniel4651
FLEEEER
SGC slabs look so much better than PSA
I think for vintage only SGC rules
I feel it’s hard for people to fully grasp the difficulty of grading sets like this
There are so many johnny come latelys in the hobby that it's quite comical.....this thread tells the story....people complaining about grading Joe Barry Carrol....if they hadn't they would have left 4k sitting on the table....
Blew out my ears for a 300$ card 😢
Thats how pathetic it is to get a 10 with PSA nowadays
Waayyyyy booo hoooo waayyyyy wayyyy
The scg slab looks so much nicer
Wheres the Will Grier grading reveal
Holy crap its been over a year and they just got them back
That PSA 9 Barkley looks out of focus compared to the other 2. The SGC 8 looks more clear then both of them.
That’s why I buy 8s 😂
geoff how did you enjoy saturday’s 41-17 game?? 🙌🙌
I still trust SGC over PSA. That being said, I still don't understand why people use grading companies that will tell you what the flaws are. It's 2024, no reason for mystery anymore.
Wtf PSA owns SGC now 🫣🤡
@@spic0lishuuuuu don't tell him
@@brianoneal2547 yea pretty much why educate people if they don't respect it from ppl that have more experience and have successful at it ...🙄
Pretty cool reveal. Go Joe Barry! Lol
Who would actually buy a Joe Barry Carroll card? For real, I can't imagine even getting that card graded. 99.9999% have never heard of that player.
Guys trying to complete their 7-8 or even 9 figures PSA 10 set collections.
@@jays_-jk2ruexactly
The centering on that Akeem wasway worse on the psa
Be a real man and start busting open various 1984 star basketball bags w/ Jordan! 😮😮😮
If I had one I would just keep it sealed....like this box I wouldn't have opened it...and I have 25k of these 87 cards
PSA doesnt grade harder, they use sleepy slides to grade their cards, they are simply inconsistent.
Your numbers guy what’s your numbers on this you paid 10 grand for the box you got all those graded did you make any money or was it just for fun?
I think they basically claimed what it was for
You just now got these back? 😂
Why did you choose to grade with SGC?
Because SGC is getting respect. Also great for vintage. PSA & SGC are the king of sports grading now.
BGS are the best @@Matt11696
He chose to grade with SGC because he didn't think they were in good enough condition to send to PSA
How about listening to the first 4 minutes of the video?
Akeem did look better in PSA 8. It has better coloring than the SGC 9.5
Go Gators! 🐊
Look at overall colour...i grade for psa..centre..corner...is easy to differ...look at overall colour of card from that era
If that Joe Barry Carroll is worth 4K then my hole collection is worth $5 Billion Dollars!!!! Do You Want To Buy It??? I want all the $$$$ I Can Get!!!! That's Called Shill Bidding At It's Best!!!! That Card is probably only worth like $50!!! Cause a common is only worth about $0.50 and, a PSA 10 is only 10X that cost!!!!
Darn Market Movers app… I was totally set to offer Geoff $125/piece for each Jordan!!!
Geoffrey Wilstrem will swap them all for a lebron rookie worth 19 billion dollars for content.
Nice try my friend....nice try!
Has anyone noticed that Geoff always wears a black shirt ?
And goofy sneakers
Nope
The coloring on the Isaiah Thomas is much more prominent on the 8. Maybe that's why it got an 8, the color was too deep.
Lmao the Larry Smith is visibly off center and might be slightly diamond cut. Lucky grade
That guy in the background must have been 7’ tall!!
LoL
Berry for the win
Two grown men playing touch butt while obsessing over pieces of paper with imaginary grades 😂
Joe Barely Cares, except for today.
Sgc is a much better company
Hi
Never been a set builder, and a $500 Larry drew base card could be a reason why....
you dont have to do a psa 10 set
Geoff is a great host and business entrepreneur, but these videos have too many sales pitches in it … Fanatics marketplace, Sport card investors, … it turns me off watching the episode
First order of business gotta pay the bills
Dont bother sending the sgc 9.5 (crack) to PSA they will give it 8
Bahahaha
How does that happen on the Ewing card? Because it wasn't there when YOU submitted. SGC messed that card up and you paid full price for them to say the card is less than. GRIFTEROOOOOOO!!!!
Can confirm had this happen with gold wave ohtani last year where they bent the corner.
When they pulled the fourth Jordan a year ago, they promised to give that card to someone in the comments…
Lol toughness in grade is not why psa sells for more. It's fan boys like you and investors that jumped on psa long ago. Stubbornness to change
Where is the Bgs 9 or Bgs 9.5 submitted?
do some bgs grade reveals with subgrades
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Just curious, why is there so much excitement over a SGC 9.5. But when you guys talk about BGS 9.5's, it's automatically like beckett doesn't know how to run a company using 9.5 grades. Their stuck in the past. Blah blah blah. Come on now. Then you praise PSA for being top dog and they screwed up half your order about a month ago with authentic grades instead of number grades. And the only reason you guys give for such high praise is that they pump out the most graded cards in a month. If their pumping out so many, you don't think the quality control aspect of things is taking a hit and tarnishing their reputation, especially when your order comes back with the wrong with authentic grades. Also I do enjoy the content. Gives us old card nerds something to talk about.
Geoff, is another PSA lap dog.
The yelling and screaming gets old.
Really makes me wonder why two guys like this who are into cards very seriously take an opinion by a 20 something making 20 $ something an hour to grade cards like they are some kind and of expert all they do is use magnification to inspect cardboard
What do you think the 1/1 Tom Brady Superfractor is worth?
$2
So....Geoooofffff said Secondary stars go to SGC. FIRST CAR IS Freakin' Dr J!!!!!! Then Jabbar....bwahahahahahaa Come on Man! Secondary stars?
Will GRIEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRR!!!!!
Paid App 😅😅😅😅😅
half this video is an infomerical for fanatics collect
Funny how the big dealers get way more 10s than the average joe who is receiving 6 and 7 consistently. Same old drama
I just sold a jordan 6 TGA graded 1987 sold ebay 165
The Larry Bird card is a Prime Example of the Subjective Dice Roll of the Grading Grift!
My biggest issue is that they don't tell you why the card got its grade.
@@IrishDocmakes They do now, but you got to pay a small fortune per card to get them. Rip off.
13k on the box another 1k on grading did u make 14,000 is the real question?..
Why did that larry bird get a 8 from PSA. Looked good to me
Because Nate Turner was not with him when he submitted them.
When in doubt, crack it out
Blind reveal LOL you put the post it notes on the cards. I guess you did it without seeing the grades LMAO
@zachsabbath1 Jr. come up from Mom and Dads basement for your Ritalin. If you are good they will take you for Ice Cream later and let you watch more sportscardschiester videos.
Nah Tpot did
Ridiculous those cheap ass cards are 12k get out of here 😂for that money you can buy actual autos. Ridiculous.. I have dozens of those damn cards sitting in my shoe boxes with the og gums still in there. BS with folks hypebeasting garbage very common cards
Joe Barry Carroll = Joe Barely Cares
Nah he was a great part of NBA and it's history
Original.
I don't care if it's pop 1 no way I'm paying $4000 for a scrub player
😂😂😂NOBODY is......that's called shill bidding. It's funny people trust a dude with stated value when hes using his own app to determine the "value".