The UK's first Dutch-style roundabout opens in Cambridge

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 24 гру 2024

КОМЕНТАРІ • 204

  • @OntarioTrafficMan
    @OntarioTrafficMan 4 роки тому +132

    I find it hilarious how so many British people are angry about this roundabout. Basically everywhere else in the world you always have to give way to pedestrians and cyclists while entering and exiting roundabouts anyway, regardless of whether it's a "Dutch Roundabout" or not. The only difference with the "Dutch Roundabout" design is the geometry such as the approach angle, setback to the cycle path, corner radii, etc. While it may be revolutionary from a geometry standpoint, it really is not complicated from a driver's perspective.

    • @weeardguy
      @weeardguy 3 роки тому +3

      Well, that's the thing... On roundabouts within a residential area ('bebouwde kom'), cyclists usually have priority (there are a few exceptions in the Netherlands). But outside those areas, cyclists have to yield to motorists...

    • @therealdutchidiot
      @therealdutchidiot 2 роки тому +2

      @@weeardguy Even in the Netherlands this is a relatively new concept, and many roundabouts haven't really been adjusted to the changed priorities (where they were changed).

    • @tonytheantony
      @tonytheantony 2 роки тому +10

      ....the problem in the UK is that many drivers are unable to stop before hitting the vehicle in front of them, let alone slowing down and understanding new road layouts whilst missing cyclists...👍🤣🇬🇧

    • @ToThePointCT
      @ToThePointCT 2 роки тому +4

      Motorist mentality here I'm afraid

    • @miles5600
      @miles5600 2 роки тому

      @@weeardguy those are older roundabouts, that's why the cars have priority

  • @vanderquast
    @vanderquast 4 роки тому +58

    Great replication 👍 greetings from The Netherlands 🇳🇱

    • @stevejones2310
      @stevejones2310 2 роки тому +1

      So laat voor ons,🇬🇧, 50 jaare na de nederlander...🇱🇺

  • @ToThePointCT
    @ToThePointCT 4 роки тому +25

    Brilliant now we need these nationwide

  • @boxie001
    @boxie001 3 роки тому +22

    what I can dig up on google it is working really well, just every incident gets a lot of attention but they are all low speed accidents as far as I know and everybody walks away alive and not injured for life.
    that is what the design does.
    I don't like change either but brits take it to another level.

  • @Conclusius68
    @Conclusius68 4 роки тому +29

    Tiny detail: in the Netherlands we go counterclockwise :-D. My experience with similar roundabouts in the Netherlands, as a cyclist as well as a driver is that they work reasonably efficient. However, one should also consider what the roundabout would be like on a dark and rainy November evening during rush hour. In the Netherlands cyclists tend to wear dark cloths, do not always put the lights on their bicycles on and wrong-way riding is also often an issue. Driving a car and looking straight into the headlights of cars that are already driving on the roundabout, it can be really hard to spot cyclists on the cycle path. Roundabouts like this should be really well illuminated, which in the Netherlands is not always the case, unfortunately.

    • @weeardguy
      @weeardguy 3 роки тому +6

      Yeah, but there's a difference: most UK cyclists are usually well lit, with bright or even flashing lights we usually find a bit over the top in the Netherlands. Besides that, they got the 'knipperbollen' (the flashing globes most pedestrian crossings in the UK feature, I would love someone to tell me the English term for it).
      So it's probably a bit less of an issue there.
      What I would love to know is if a cyclist has to signal on entering the round-about... that is something I consider the biggest flaw of roundabouts (or the rules, just how you look at it) in the Netherlands...

    • @stevemortimer1950
      @stevemortimer1950 3 роки тому +11

      @@weeardguy Belisha Beacon. Here in UK we have a long way to go here to integrate cycling - you guys have it pretty much sorted.

    • @bmw803
      @bmw803 2 роки тому

      @@stevemortimer1950 But, brits are still better. Come here in North America, theyll have to built a hospital next door to that round about, because of how many would get hit every minute. Bikes are a nuisance to our F-150s and Chevy Silverados.

    • @leonader9465
      @leonader9465 2 роки тому +2

      It wouldn't make sense to go counter-clockwise in the UK, because the street lanes are reverse, there.

    • @DigitalNomadOnFIRE
      @DigitalNomadOnFIRE 2 роки тому +1

      That's because you drive on the wrong side of the road...

  • @Tykeonabike
    @Tykeonabike 4 роки тому +18

    Outstanding! The surface is good and you can even ride 2 abreast. At last the government is spending money wisely!

  • @FHRider-o1m
    @FHRider-o1m 2 місяці тому

    Love these, huge improvement over waiting for at lights.

  • @qedqubit
    @qedqubit 3 роки тому +13

    Orange wigs may be more effective as car-repellant than bike helmets !

    • @stevejones2310
      @stevejones2310 2 роки тому

      I find my clogs constantly catching on the chain guard. Most tyresome. See what I did there? Hahaha

  • @dsmith8104
    @dsmith8104 2 роки тому +5

    Think all roundabout and junction needs brought up to this standard. Pity it probably be another 10 to 20 years before the UK gets up to the Netherlands standards today.

  • @lawrence18uk
    @lawrence18uk 4 роки тому +7

    Does anyone how many of this type of cycle-priority roundabout there are in the Netherlands? (The one in Zwolle has received negative reviews.)

    • @aeiouaeiou100
      @aeiouaeiou100 4 роки тому +9

      I wouldn't be surprised if there are well over a thousand maybe thoudands, this is the standard roundabout design within built up areas.

    • @aeiouaeiou100
      @aeiouaeiou100 4 роки тому +10

      I looked it up and turns out there are statistics on this from 2019. There are 2448 roundabouts with seperate cycle tracks within built-up areas. 749 of them have no priority for cyclists (which is an older design and no longer conform the current standards). Outside built-up areas the standard is not to have priority for cyclists and have the crossing further away from the roundabout.

    • @aeiouaeiou100
      @aeiouaeiou100 4 роки тому +6

      Here's the link www.rijksoverheid.nl/binaries/rijksoverheid/documenten/rapporten/2019/12/16/bijlage-02-crow-memo-verbeterpunten-rotondes/bijlage-02-crow-memo-verbeterpunten-rotondes.pdf
      It's in Dutch but has a lot of example pictures.

    • @weetikissa
      @weetikissa 4 роки тому +5

      All of the roundabouts in my area in the Netherlands are exactly like this and everyone I have talked to loves them. People don't really think about them anymore because they've been here for many years, decades even. I love them because they feel very safe.

    • @lawrence18uk
      @lawrence18uk 4 роки тому

      @@aeiouaeiou100 I'm really interested in the Zwolle example. I'm wondering whether some locations for some reason work less well, and it's not the 'design' but the 'users'. Or maybe average traffic speeds. I guess if I studied this PDF well, I could identify a cohort of "less safe" ones... in an ideal world...

  • @David-bi6lf
    @David-bi6lf 4 роки тому +6

    The arm at 1:20 looks poor to me. For a start why does it have a gap between the Zebra and cycle track and why is the gap barely big enough for a car, thus the car almost blocking the cycle crossing. The markings are also different, just standard give way lines and the tarmac looks black not red. We have a crossing like this in Norwich, goo.gl/maps/BFzKfincQ8JC5UdC6, I gave up using it because very few drivers actually give way, most don't even look, I drop down the curbs in advance and use the road because I consider it dangerous. Give way lines are not sufficient, signs and different surfaces, a clear and obvious continuation of the track are needed. The Netherlands make a much better job of this. Also the company that designed it sounds like a Dutch name, if it is then wth.

  • @gammaraider
    @gammaraider 13 днів тому

    Looks good! I thought I was looking at the Netherlands for a second ;-)

  • @mikeashton8666
    @mikeashton8666 4 роки тому +10

    Having used these as a driver and cyclist in Overveen NL where my son lives, only problem I have see is with cyclist approaching too fast on electric bikes. I also have an electric bike but find the only safe speed to approach is 10 mph max for cars and cyclist. Thanks DVSA ADI (uk)

    • @xaiano794
      @xaiano794 4 роки тому +3

      I agree with you there, perhaps some 'cyclist 10mph' signs on approach would be good.

    • @rwiersema
      @rwiersema 4 роки тому

      I completely agree. First: It seems that especially senior citizens have a hard time with judging their speed on an electric bike. Second:My parents always taught me "right of way is given, not taken" but it seems that less and less people have that little bit of common sense these days. 🙂

  • @rickfromutrecht
    @rickfromutrecht 4 роки тому +21

    Some motorists need to get used to it, but amazing! Well done! Great development! @RickfromUtrecht

  • @FHRider-o1m
    @FHRider-o1m 3 роки тому +3

    I’d like to see the red lanes and crossings raised, I heard that this acts as a traffic calming measure to cars, a warning and reminder that people are crossing?

    • @therealdutchidiot
      @therealdutchidiot 2 роки тому +1

      This isn't really used on roundabouts, though sometimes speed bumps can be introduced (adjusted for design speed of the roundabout, ofcourse).

    • @hendman4083
      @hendman4083 2 роки тому +1

      The roundabout itself is the traffic calming measure, there should be no need for raised bike and pedestrian paths.

  • @OBSMProductions
    @OBSMProductions 2 роки тому +1

    If only we had this in the U.S., greetings from New Mexico!

  • @thekiteflyer1
    @thekiteflyer1 Рік тому +2

    That looks lethal, I think if I was to be cycling there I'd use it like a proper roundabout

  • @lawrence18uk
    @lawrence18uk 4 роки тому +9

    1:20 - car stopping for pedestrian on Zebra crossing - on the other 3 'arms' there is no gap between zebra and cycle lane, which is much preferable. :-)

    • @David-bi6lf
      @David-bi6lf 4 роки тому +1

      I agree the arm at 1:20 looks poor to me. For a start why does it have a gap between the Zebra and cycle track and why is the gap barely big enough for a car, thus the car almost blocking the cycle crossing. The markings are also different, just standard give way lines and the tarmac looks black not red. We have a crossing like this in Norwich, goo.gl/maps/BFzKfincQ8JC5UdC6, I gave up using it because very few drivers actually give way, most don't even look, I drop down the curbs in advance and use the road because I consider it dangerous. Give way lines are not sufficient, signs and different surfaces, a clear and obvious continuation of the track are needed. The Netherlands make a much better job of this. Also the company that designed it sounds like a Dutch name, if it is then wth.

    • @robtuton4392
      @robtuton4392 4 роки тому +1

      @@David-bi6lf It looks like they've tried to accommodate the private driveways, which means they've set back the crossings.

    • @LMvdB02
      @LMvdB02 4 роки тому

      @@David-bi6lf Do you not use shark's teeth to indicate priority in the UK?

    • @David-bi6lf
      @David-bi6lf 4 роки тому

      @@LMvdB02 No, we have 3 different types of give way/yield/priority markings. The 3 bottom ones in this picture theorytest.org.uk/hwc/signs-and-signals/roadMarkingsAcrossTheCarriageway.png

  • @AlamalwebTV
    @AlamalwebTV Рік тому

    Wow so cool ,where is it about ?

  • @JeffTheMapper
    @JeffTheMapper 2 роки тому +3

    Same people going around the roundabout!

    • @DrJams
      @DrJams 2 роки тому

      Cyclist groups trying to make cycling look more popular than it is.

  • @muckfundle
    @muckfundle Рік тому +1

    There should be right of way for vehicles exiting the roundabout.
    Queing of cars within a round about is a traffic delemma that should not be induced by the infrastructure.

  • @andyclark1173
    @andyclark1173 2 роки тому +3

    You can tell it’s not in the Netherlands look at the state of it😡

  • @igorswies5913
    @igorswies5913 2 роки тому +1

    I'm like why is the truck going left on the roundabout like in those funny compilations and then it hit me

  • @Roman500
    @Roman500 3 роки тому +1

    Whats up with all the helmets?

  • @lawrence18uk
    @lawrence18uk 4 роки тому +15

    "No cyclists got lost during the making of this video" (tho' it did look they were going round and round in circles) :-D :-D

  • @mattwardman
    @mattwardman 2 роки тому

    Late to the party, but I see from a quick look at Crash Map that casualties here do not seem to have gone down, and they nearly all seem to be people on bikes.
    And - question - why does a 4x4 come to a halt right across the zebra at 22s? I'd say the 20mph signs are far too close (HWC stopping distance close) and it needs a speed table sharp level change at 30m to wake up dozy drivers in time to stop so they don't autopilot through.
    Good concept, but I think they have been too timid about slowing down cars given the ruler straight road approaches, and imo it needs some revision.

  • @picakiaak
    @picakiaak 4 роки тому +3

    Dutch woman in orange at 1:30 LOL

  • @hendman4083
    @hendman4083 2 роки тому +1

    I know it is a dutch-style roundabout, but there really is no need to fully dress up in orange to use it. 😉

  • @rbartels1996
    @rbartels1996 4 роки тому +17

    If the cyclists would start signaling turns (right arm to stay on the roundabout and left when leaving) it would be even more efficient! Cars wouldn't be waiting for nothing :)

    • @ynotnilknarf39
      @ynotnilknarf39 4 роки тому +5

      There should never be a requirement to signal, you should never take your hands off the bars, this is specific in law/HC that you remain in control of your vehicle at all times, if you cant wait a second or so longer until the other road users have exited to the direction they are going then you need to rethink your safety protocols!

    • @rbartels1996
      @rbartels1996 4 роки тому +8

      @@ynotnilknarf39 This doesn't make any sense. All road users have to signal their turns.

    • @ynotnilknarf39
      @ynotnilknarf39 4 роки тому +1

      @@rbartels1996 it makes no nsense to you because you don't understand the law and safety properly!
      Sorry but you are incorrect, there is no lawful requirement to signal, most motorists fail to do this every single day. For people on bikes this is not required as I explained, you are required by law to be in full control of your vehicle - a bicycle is a vehicle or carriage in law, as a person riding a bike this means keeping both hands on the bars of the bike. if you cannot remove your hand off the bars to indicate this should not be done to give another road user an extra seconds warning that you are turning off. With a cyclist they are no threat to motorists and their speed for the most part means that not signalling presents no issue except to impatient drivers whom don't understand basic hazards and generally can't read the road properly

    • @rbartels1996
      @rbartels1996 4 роки тому +10

      @@ynotnilknarf39 In the Netherlands, you are required to signal turns using hand signals on a bicycle. If you can't ride a bike one-handed, I think you shouldn't be cycling on the road at all, you should be practicing on private property instead. Here is some reading for you:
      verkeersregels.vvn.nl/situatie/richting-aangeven
      I can't imagine that you really believe what you were saying.

    • @xaiano794
      @xaiano794 4 роки тому +7

      I agree, but to be fair cyclists probably signal exactly as frequently as car drivers do.

  • @Lunavii_Cellest
    @Lunavii_Cellest 4 роки тому

    Thiss makes me so happy

  • @tonytheantony
    @tonytheantony 2 роки тому

    ...I'm loving this video. We have a Local Walking and Cycling Infrasture plan to be implemented in Crawley...it's complete rubbish, with more shared paths and road junctions where priority is for road vehicles still.... Ifield Road to Ifield Avenue junction is a great example...says it all really...

  • @hamburger7478
    @hamburger7478 2 роки тому +2

    they should actually build more of these around the uk, its actually quite common around the eu and some drivers as a non cyclist just simply don't understand the fear and unsafe feeling of the cyclist when cycling into an ordinary roundabout, this can literally save lives, and i have personal experiences of near crash moments in a roundabout by those selfish and impatient drivers.

  • @cambs0181
    @cambs0181 Рік тому +1

    Right outside the hospital, directly in the way of emergency ambulances.

  • @micheltibon6552
    @micheltibon6552 3 роки тому +1

    On a dare? Driving in an orange dress and an orange wig on a Dutch roundabout? Or is it a new UK safety dress code. Go Oranje!

  • @hamidmakhchon7921
    @hamidmakhchon7921 3 роки тому

    EST CE QUE JE PEUT AVOIR UN AMI (E) QUI AIME LE VELO

  • @ceji566
    @ceji566 2 роки тому

    Great vid. thou my view/reaction is late.
    The very first image puzzled me a bit, is this UK or NL.
    Must be Uk viewing cars on right not left. Yes, there are other clues as well.
    Cyclists go clockwise, cars go counter-clockwise. No wait, what ? This is interesting regarding safety.
    In my town there is a horrible roundabout,
    a - for cars : pedestrians and cyclists come from every direction, i counted 7 sources, that is not okay.
    b - for cyclists : for them it is only a semi-roundabout, so bi-directional, sharp corners, ugh, not okay.
    @ 0:22 the black car stopping on pedestrian crossing is bad.
    @ 0:25 the white car not giving way to tandem is a big NO.
    @ 0:40ish , again cars not giving way, oi! I see the same tandem, are they part of the script/test ?
    @ 1:20 bicycle has to stop for car leaving roundabout. ouch.
    @ 1:28 Ma'am with bicycle, please dont stop on the roundabout, if you have to, get off the bicycle lane.
    @ 1:32 lady in orange (haha) doing full circle,checks traffic right shoulder, when leaving indicating to left. Yeah, in NL you see all sorts communication, takes some time for everyone to be comfortable.
    Why all the helmets? Bit of a false sense of security.
    Sure, when hitting the pavement you wish had a helmet. When hit by car helmet or no helmet wont make a difference.
    Curious about the current situation. Time for a updated video ?

  • @grandmasterj5
    @grandmasterj5 Рік тому +1

    I don't drive, but for me this has always been a bit of a dumb layout, as it would back exiting traffic up on the roundabout itself. The crossing should be further down the road to allow for more waiting cars.
    It's common sense really

  • @RemseyYT
    @RemseyYT 3 місяці тому

    Change will always make people angry.

  • @bagoymegy
    @bagoymegy Рік тому

    I know a few places where this would be a good idea.

  • @Teapot-Dave
    @Teapot-Dave 2 роки тому +1

    That is amazing 👏, I can't wait to see more of these across the country.
    I have the great misfortune to live near Norwich, Norfolk, which has the worst - almost non-existent - bicycle infrastructure I've ever seen. We are lightyears behind Cambridge and the Netherlands in regards to having cycling as a viable transport option. But they have painted some bicycle-symbols on a few existing footpaths, and let us use the bus-lanes, so at least they do seem to be aware that bicycles exist!

    • @stevejones2310
      @stevejones2310 2 роки тому +1

      I was astonished how poorly served cyclists are in Norwich. I fully expected a cycle route from city centre to the Broads. Nothing.

    • @Teapot-Dave
      @Teapot-Dave 2 роки тому

      @@stevejones2310 I don't think we've even got 400yds of continuous cycle lanes going anywhere into the city. There are a handful of short disconnected cycle-lanes on some fairly quiet streets within the city, but you've got to ride there first to be able to use them.

  • @gerhard6105
    @gerhard6105 2 роки тому +1

    Nu nog wat haaientanden plaatsen.

  • @L333_MSO
    @L333_MSO Рік тому

    Zebra crossings on the exit of a roundabout? This is ok? 🤔

  • @driewiel
    @driewiel 4 роки тому +5

    Ha ha. Silly idiot drivers in the UK can't figure out how a roundabout works.

    • @ToThePointCT
      @ToThePointCT 4 роки тому +2

      Mate a lot of the drivers here can't even navigate a standard roundabout never mind this lol

    • @Lunavii_Cellest
      @Lunavii_Cellest 4 роки тому

      The intire country is filled with roundabouts

    • @epender
      @epender 2 роки тому

      Which is weird, because Britain basically developed the concept, still, they're a mess here. Add bikes to the mix and it gets even worse.

    • @driewiel
      @driewiel 2 роки тому

      @@epender If it wasn't for cars we wouldn't need roundabouts.

    • @cambs0181
      @cambs0181 Рік тому

      Yeah, as this was never put in the driving test I think that would be expected.

  • @omzldn6472
    @omzldn6472 4 роки тому +1

    All they need to do is take off their helmets and stop acting bare surprised

  • @ToThePointCT
    @ToThePointCT 2 роки тому

    Motorist have no idea how to use a standard roundabout, no hope with this one

    • @miles5600
      @miles5600 2 роки тому +1

      they shall learn

  • @alanfizzypop9607
    @alanfizzypop9607 4 роки тому +2

    At least the ambulances will not have far to travel to it

  • @arpadhorvath6341
    @arpadhorvath6341 4 роки тому +4

    What about peak times, looks like a lorry wont fit there, dangerous I think. Its just make driving worst.

    • @xaiano794
      @xaiano794 4 роки тому +15

      That's actually the point - it's to make cycling safer and easier than driving.

    • @irrelevance3859
      @irrelevance3859 3 роки тому +5

      The idea is to push people to walk and cycle and keep the roads more empty for necessity vehicles.

    • @mmor2742
      @mmor2742 3 роки тому +3

      It’s great you got the point.

    • @samshaw1443
      @samshaw1443 2 роки тому +1

      That’s what it was designed for. Less drivers is better for everyone

  • @craig.billington
    @craig.billington Рік тому

    Trust anti-car Cambridge CC to install this nonsense at what was probably at great expense.

    • @RemseyYT
      @RemseyYT 3 місяці тому

      I suggest you come to Holland to see for yourself.

  •  4 роки тому +3

    What a bloody stupid idea! I’m a pedestrian only .Every day I see them cutting through traffic and across pavements at junctions.They also don’t believe in stopping at Zebra or even Pelican crossings.They are a menace to everyone and should not be applauded for their selfish lifestyle choice.

    • @xaiano794
      @xaiano794 4 роки тому +3

      So you think we should make life harder for all cyclists because some cyclists are bad?
      I wonder if you would think it fair that you received parking fines because your neighbour parked illegally?
      How do you end up even reaching the conclusion that all cyclists must be punished?

    • @jonleekay338
      @jonleekay338 4 роки тому +1

      Said the internet moron

    • @chriszani3698
      @chriszani3698 4 роки тому

      Angel Mcfadden look up how the dutch do it and youll see

    • @eighteenfiftynine
      @eighteenfiftynine Рік тому

      ​@@xaiano794it's not just some. Cambridge cyclists are a bloody liability, as are more than a few of the cycle routes around the city. I honestly feel safer cycling almost anywhere else. I was there a few weeks back and my HRM showed about a fifteen BPM increase when I got to town simply because of the stress of riding around the place! 😅

  • @byteme9718
    @byteme9718 4 роки тому +4

    The cheaper solution is to keep children's toys off the road and keep cyclists in playgrounds.

    • @ynotnilknarf39
      @ynotnilknarf39 4 роки тому +5

      The cheaper option is to keep wanker criminals away from the roads and let them play on race tracks where they can just kill themselves instead of innocent victims ...

    • @byteme9718
      @byteme9718 4 роки тому +1

      @@ynotnilknarf39 So all car drivers are "wanker criminals" or just the "wanker criminals" who are "wanker criminals"?

    • @ynotnilknarf39
      @ynotnilknarf39 4 роки тому +2

      @@byteme9718 99.999% of people driving drive criminally every single day, that makes them wankers. Motorists kill over 1 million people globally every single year, in the UK, even with all the protective systems that motons have they manage to kill 1700+, maim 23,000+ and injure 160,000 EVERY YEAR. Motorists speed, run red lights, drive recklessly/dangerously every minute of every day, this is borne out in the death toll.

    • @byteme9718
      @byteme9718 4 роки тому +2

      @@ynotnilknarf39 Did you fall off your bike and hit your head?

    • @jonleekay338
      @jonleekay338 4 роки тому +1

      byteme9718 maybe you need to read the stats before shouting your mouth off. Cyclist very rarely kill people, motorists kills 1000s every year

  • @paulatkins9675
    @paulatkins9675 4 роки тому +5

    This is a VERY BAD idea - I can see a lot of crashes happening with this type of roundabout - just rip it all up and put it back to normal

    • @xaiano794
      @xaiano794 4 роки тому +18

      theoretically it should vastly reduce both accidents and the severity of them, since you are approaching pedestrians and cyclists at both reduced speeds and a less oblique angle, but i'd love to hear why you believe this will make things worse.
      They work very well in the Netherlands.

    • @MrPauloiii
      @MrPauloiii 4 роки тому +16

      @@xaiano794 I guess, he was hoping there would be no facts to counter speculation...

    • @qedqubit
      @qedqubit 3 роки тому +7

      obviously we should go back to burning witches as well

    • @samuelconnolly347
      @samuelconnolly347 3 роки тому +6

      The idea is to reduce the numbers of crashes. So many Brits are moaning about it because it's different to what they're used to, forgetting that the Dutch have been investing heavily in cycling infrastructure since the 1950s and know what they're doing when it comes to roundabout design.

    • @cambs0181
      @cambs0181 Рік тому

      It's okay, no cyclist's use it. They just mount the pavement like they always do.

  • @melgrant7404
    @melgrant7404 4 роки тому +2

    Now make them pay road tax to help pay for it.

    • @GotMoreCakes
      @GotMoreCakes 4 роки тому +7

      road tax? what year is this?

    • @jonleekay338
      @jonleekay338 4 роки тому

      mel grant road tax!!! No such thing. Taxes pay for roads, I’m a cyclist and driver and believe cyclist should be insured, many are

    • @melgrant7404
      @melgrant7404 4 роки тому +1

      @@jonleekay338 well cyclists use the roads why not. They should be treated exactly the same as drivers
      Paying both road tax and insurance considering how much of a danger they are to cars on the road.

    • @allws9683
      @allws9683 4 роки тому +6

      ​ @mel grant lmao ! When did you hear about a cyclist kill a car? The reason you don't tax bikes is that a cycle path cost 10% of a car lane, don't cause wear and tear, don't poison others and keeps riders fitter and thus save the NHS millions of pounds. It saves a lot of public space too... In the 'Munster bike car bus' Photo you don't see how many parkings spaces are needed for cars in down towns and work places. Just look at any US city how many parking spaces there are downtown that don't yield anything.. A bike path benefits $8 for each $1 investment. And it does in any currency.
      nl.pinterest.com/pin/135811744986735515/

    • @melgrant7404
      @melgrant7404 4 роки тому +1

      @@allws9683 it's the risks that drivers take to avoid them that presents the danger. Also not all.areas have cycling facilities such as lanes etc
      They put drivers at risk more in villages and rural areas where there are no cycle lanes etc.also if cycling is so safe why don't more people cycle.and why shouldn't cars have the spaces provided for them .people pay a lot to be on the road they have paid for it unlike cyclists.

  • @adamthomas6559
    @adamthomas6559 Рік тому

    Great idea but badly implemented. There is no room for cars to stop safety without getting in the way, as the video clearly shows with the taxi. As a biker, I do not ride on the roads anymore. It's unsafe, and most cycle lanes are badly implemented. One road by me has had cycle lanes implemented but without widening the road, so there is no room for cars to pass without going into the cycle lane, not alone lorries that use the road too. 🫣