I had no idea Keith Giffen died!! I actually met him a few years ago at my first DragonCon. He was very nice and signed my copy of JLI #1. He was a big part of my favorite runs of Justice League International and Legion of Superheroes!!
I wasn’t expecting this. It would be a great addition to my Jack Kirby’s Fourth World, John Byrne’s Fourth World, and Walt Simonson’s Orion. Am I missing any books?
I was always confused with the Super Powers comics because they're not supposed to be in the main continuity and yet Super Powers vol.2 starts exactly where the Hunger Dogs ended. And the Hunger Dogs were canon at the time.
For the Super Powers material, some of the New Gods redesigns were due to the fact that Jeannette Khan asked Kirby to redesign some of them in order for Jack to then be able to share in the profits of those action figures, who had been designed initially before profit sharing was implemented. I always thought that was really great of her and DC.
"The Great Darkness saga" is more enjoyable when the reader is more familiar with all the LOSH characters and lore, otherwise the reader is not completely conscious of the stakes. It's very similar to reading the Dark Phoenix saga without having read the previous issues of Claremont-Byrne preparing the road to the event. For those interested, the next hardcover editions can help readers to warm up on the LOSH characters and lore before embarking into the The Great Darkness Saga: > Superboy and The Legion of Super Heroes Volume 1 > Superboy and The Legion of Super Heroes Volume 2 > Legion of Super-Heroes Before the Darkness Volume 1 > Legion of Super-Heroes Before the Darkness Volume 2 That said, some of these books are already quite expensive, especially the first one.
I have the 4 volume standard size hardcovers of the original Fourth World saga that came out in the late 2000's, but I also have the 2 volume Absolutes. I am definitely getting this omni though, despite not having volume one in omni format. I was a Super Powers action figure fanatic when I was a kid, and much of my love for all things DC directly stems from that figure line. I'm a sucker for anything Fourth World related. I can't wait to see those mini comics that came with the figures restored in this volume. Hope fully we eventually get a third omni that has things like Cosmic Odyssey, Mark Evanier's New Gods series, JM DeMatteis's Mister Miracle run, etc.
If I have my DC Comics history correct, when Kenner was starting up their Super Powers action figure line, they wanted to utilize the characters of Kirby's New Gods. Kirby was invited by DC Comics publisher Jenette Kahn to return to his creation so that he could earn royalties for his work.
It has the complete Great Darkness Saga, just not the other unrelated Legion issues collected in the most recent Legion of Super-Heroes: Great Darkness Saga Hc 😊
On the fence because I have a BUNCH of this material, but all the toy tie-in stuff, the uncollected material, and the bonus features make this more tempting than I had initially thought
Great video! Definitely picking this one up soon! Makes me feel so happy when someone mentions that Secret Society of Super Villains book!! When I started rebuilding my collection after the "Great Neuter/Spay" event, those two hc's were at the top of my list. Such a fun, short lived series. One of my all time favorite covers was Grodd holding Capt Comet with Kid Flash running around him.
Read Conway's 7 follow-up issues to Kirby's NG a few years ago and they're unfortunately still one of the worst things I've read. A bore and uninteresting. I really loved Kirby's work and other renditions like Simonson's Orion omnibus, but this... Perhaps I'm being too harsh. Good to see there's a lot of other stuff collected in this omni, I'm sure that makes it worth the price.
I was browsing IST, wanting to buy a Omnibus and was sure what I wanted to get from my very big Wishlist, was semi torn between the Iron Man Omni on sale and some other...decided I was too indecisive and put it off for the next day....said next day came and there on the front page was The Fourth World Vol.2. I never clicked "add to cart" as fast as I did then! For the price of $62, I nabbed this beauty up right quick! There's something about the way these stories are drawn and told that just hits satisfactorily in a way other comics don't quite hit. Darkseid is probably my all-time #1 fav villain/threat and just soooooo eager to dive into these stories fully now! . I'm guessing this is where The Fourth World stuff ends as it's presented n Volume 1 & 2? Or would there be any other missing material to make a Volume 3 or companion piece?
Theres a New Gods series from 1989 by Mark Evanier that has been collected into 2x TPBs. There's some uncollected stuff though still - Forever People (1988), Mister Miracle (1989), New Gods (1995), Mister Miracle (1996) & Takion (1996) that take place between this omnibus and Bryne's run
Vol 1 is the original Jack Kirby issues, this volume is follow on stuff by other writers and artists in the Bronze Age plus Kirby's return on the Super Powers tie in comics
@@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork Yes the Mister Miracle and New Gods issues here follow directly on from the Jack Kirby issues and continue the numbering of Kirby's issues
It’s because he contributed way more stories to this collection. It would be false advertising if it put his name big and first when he’s only in a few issues
We need a Paul Levitz's Legion of Super-Heroes Omnibus collection.
Been waiting years for Levitz Legion Omnibus
Funny how just mentioning that the cover of the Great Darkness Saga is a spoiler, becomes just as big of a spoiler 😅.
I had no idea Keith Giffen died!! I actually met him a few years ago at my first DragonCon. He was very nice and signed my copy of JLI #1. He was a big part of my favorite runs of Justice League International and Legion of Superheroes!!
I'm 400 pages in and really enjoying this. This was an unexpected release from DC but it's great to have this stuff collected in one volume
The colors look so damn good and vibrant. Gonna need to pick this one up as I own the first volume. Perfect Saturday morning read. Great review.
DC is kinda crushing it these days.
You're kidding, right?
@@davidgraham8299 he's right. Quality>Quantity
This must be Karma because i just ordered Jack Kirby Fourth World vol 1 yesterday and now I'm headed to IST for vol 2.. Thank You Omar!!
I wasn’t expecting this.
It would be a great addition to my Jack Kirby’s Fourth World, John Byrne’s Fourth World, and Walt Simonson’s Orion.
Am I missing any books?
New Gods: Bloodlines and Advent of Darkness are available in TPB (28 issues,) but I'm not sure if they are worth it.
Cosmic Odyssey and Death of the New God's are important Fourth World stories, and of course Final Crisis.
This omni looks VERY interesting. 😊
I was always confused with the Super Powers comics because they're not supposed to be in the main continuity and yet Super Powers vol.2 starts exactly where the Hunger Dogs ended. And the Hunger Dogs were canon at the time.
For the Super Powers material, some of the New Gods redesigns were due to the fact that Jeannette Khan asked Kirby to redesign some of them in order for Jack to then be able to share in the profits of those action figures, who had been designed initially before profit sharing was implemented. I always thought that was really great of her and DC.
"The Great Darkness saga" is more enjoyable when the reader is more familiar with all the LOSH characters and lore, otherwise the reader is not completely conscious of the stakes. It's very similar to reading the Dark Phoenix saga without having read the previous issues of Claremont-Byrne preparing the road to the event. For those interested, the next hardcover editions can help readers to warm up on the LOSH characters and lore before embarking into the The Great Darkness Saga:
> Superboy and The Legion of Super Heroes Volume 1
> Superboy and The Legion of Super Heroes Volume 2
> Legion of Super-Heroes Before the Darkness Volume 1
> Legion of Super-Heroes Before the Darkness Volume 2
That said, some of these books are already quite expensive, especially the first one.
Thank you for this! I'm not paying over MSRP for any of them, but it gives me a good idea of where to start.
I have the 4 volume standard size hardcovers of the original Fourth World saga that came out in the late 2000's, but I also have the 2 volume Absolutes. I am definitely getting this omni though, despite not having volume one in omni format. I was a Super Powers action figure fanatic when I was a kid, and much of my love for all things DC directly stems from that figure line. I'm a sucker for anything Fourth World related. I can't wait to see those mini comics that came with the figures restored in this volume. Hope fully we eventually get a third omni that has things like Cosmic Odyssey, Mark Evanier's New Gods series, JM DeMatteis's Mister Miracle run, etc.
Yep, have the Absolutes of The Fourth World, and pre-ordered this bad boy. Looking forward to whe. It arrives. And, thanks so much for this overview !
If I have my DC Comics history correct, when Kenner was starting up their Super Powers action figure line, they wanted to utilize the characters of Kirby's New Gods. Kirby was invited by DC Comics publisher Jenette Kahn to return to his creation so that he could earn royalties for his work.
Disappointing that it doesbt have the full great darkness saga in it. Looks like ill be getting the trade reprint of that as well.
It has the complete Great Darkness Saga, just not the other unrelated Legion issues collected in the most recent Legion of Super-Heroes: Great Darkness Saga Hc 😊
Already ordered mine to complete the set
On the fence because I have a BUNCH of this material, but all the toy tie-in stuff, the uncollected material, and the bonus features make this more tempting than I had initially thought
Great video! Definitely picking this one up soon! Makes me feel so happy when someone mentions that Secret Society of Super Villains book!! When I started rebuilding my collection after the "Great Neuter/Spay" event, those two hc's were at the top of my list. Such a fun, short lived series. One of my all time favorite covers was Grodd holding Capt Comet with Kid Flash running around him.
I always enjoyed SSOSV too! It was a quirky, weird book that shouldn’t have worked, but it did and was fun to read. 👍🏼
Read Conway's 7 follow-up issues to Kirby's NG a few years ago and they're unfortunately still one of the worst things I've read. A bore and uninteresting. I really loved Kirby's work and other renditions like Simonson's Orion omnibus, but this... Perhaps I'm being too harsh.
Good to see there's a lot of other stuff collected in this omni, I'm sure that makes it worth the price.
I had purchased a lot of these comics in their original form back in 76 and 77 at my local 7-11. Thanks Omar!
Did not know this collected the Great Darkness saga and Super Powers picking up for sure
DC’s TOCs are so much better than Marvel omnis. It’s like Marvel doesn’t understand the point of a TOC.
I’ll give them credit though, their TOCs are bad but they are much better about page numbers.
What are TOC ?
@@johnpedersen6611 Table of Contents
@@OrangeGeemer Thank you 😊
I don’t know much about the fourth world, I had no idea there was a second giant volume worth of content.
"The Great Daaaaaaahrkness!"
Great overview! I can’t wait to get my copy now. ❤👍🏼
Most of the stories are really boring but i enjoyed the artwork
I was browsing IST, wanting to buy a Omnibus and was sure what I wanted to get from my very big Wishlist, was semi torn between the Iron Man Omni on sale and some other...decided I was too indecisive and put it off for the next day....said next day came and there on the front page was The Fourth World Vol.2. I never clicked "add to cart" as fast as I did then! For the price of $62, I nabbed this beauty up right quick!
There's something about the way these stories are drawn and told that just hits satisfactorily in a way other comics don't quite hit. Darkseid is probably my all-time #1 fav villain/threat and just soooooo eager to dive into these stories fully now! .
I'm guessing this is where The Fourth World stuff ends as it's presented n Volume 1 & 2? Or would there be any other missing material to make a Volume 3 or companion piece?
Should I get this one?
Darn. I actually sold mine because I went in on the Absolutes. Hope they continue those then
Why was the Great Darkness Saga redrawn for the TPB?
Do I need to read any legion of superhero’s stuff to enjoy the great darkness saga?
Does this cover everything up until Byrne or is there a lot more material still in between?
Theres a New Gods series from 1989 by Mark Evanier that has been collected into 2x TPBs. There's some uncollected stuff though still - Forever People (1988), Mister Miracle (1989), New Gods (1995), Mister Miracle (1996) & Takion (1996) that take place between this omnibus and Bryne's run
Nice
Wait, how is there a Volume 2?????
Vol 1 is the original Jack Kirby issues, this volume is follow on stuff by other writers and artists in the Bronze Age plus Kirby's return on the Super Powers tie in comics
Does it continue directly where Kirby's stuff left off? NOt interested in Super Powers though.
@@TokuAndAnimationNewsNetwork Yes the Mister Miracle and New Gods issues here follow directly on from the Jack Kirby issues and continue the numbering of Kirby's issues
I am shocked and appalled that Jerry Conway name has been placed in front of Jack Kirby's name in the billing on the cover..
I'm shocked and appalled you spelled Gerry Conway with a J
lol
I didn't even expect his name to be there.
It’s because he contributed way more stories to this collection. It would be false advertising if it put his name big and first when he’s only in a few issues
Nice video. Sorry, I think I missed it, Did Omar say how it assemble with the Byrne book? I watched it by parts during the day 🫤