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use a whitelist and add only your friends is one way of protecting your server, there are other things you can do but for some reason alot of people dont even do this@@Finnh-17
@@ethanogle9088 yeah, like, griefing i kinda understand, is like what misterepic said, is a type o trolling, but what do you get from a automated grief????
I really don't like people saying something like, "At least it's me who have done it and someone more bad will do it, and at least I have the decency I teach them how to ensure this doesn't happen again. After having my fun destroying this server." My guy you can do the nice thing, log into server, not grief and tell people how to secure their own servers. It's like you got beaten up by a rando for doing nothing to them and then they say "hey, come let me teach you how to defend yourself."
Yeah pretty much. It's textbook "I'm guilty and coping with it" behavior. It's gaslighting victims of terrible behavior into thinking they're at fault for it, when they're really not. It's just someone trying to absolve themselves from guilt. The reality is that *maybe* a few of the servers he griefed would've been griefed without him doing it. Most of them would've been fine had he not done anything. Deep down he's guilty about it, but it's fun for him so he made up a way to make himself seem like the good guy for doing bad things.
@@wholesome193 They're using server scanners. I'm pretty sure many other people would find that IP and grief and not tell how to secure for next time. Then again they could just not grief or provide a save state (something they could also automate and use when the server owner asks). I guess they like doing a little trolling but they could give save states.
This. It would be so simple to do some very noticeable yet easy to clean up griefing with signs pointing the person to a site that tells them how to secure their server. At that point, they've been warned and if a "more bad" person comes along afterwards and destroys their world, then it's their problem.
Guy smashes a kid's sandcastle: "See kid? That's why you need to defend your sandcastle, to prevent guys like me from destroying it." Kid: "B-b-b-but ... what about my sandcastle ~~~ I've spent so much time on it ~~~ 😭😭"
The fact that their reasoning (or at least one of them) for griefing servers is "if I don't do it now I won't be able to in the future" REALLY shows how big of scumbags these people are. Edit: Beware of 12 year olds and/or trolls in the replies
Sounds like the idiots that go running around murdering people just because they use the same logic. Yeesh Welcome to the Mouse Utopia Experiment Version Human. Enjoy the Decline.
Yeah that excuse doesn't fly. "oh well it would have been someone else" we aren't playing ifs and buts. You did it asshole. We aren't talking about someone else doing it, the problem is HE DID IT. He could easily be educational and informative without being this fucking malicious.
There was a group that was specializing on scanning and manually griefing UA server since around 2021, they got raided and closed in Oct 2023 sadly. But that was hella epic, like they posted the "positive feedback" they've been receiving in their VK group, with full email addresses for anyone to reply)))
Griefing random people's servers automatically is a cowardish, stupid and mentally ill behaviour. What kind of monster just decides to ruin people's fun and hard work just because their lifes are so unfulfilling that their only way to achieve a smudge of emotion is to cause harm to other people. This behaviour is downright disgusting
i smell a lot of unemployment on this reply section. tbh tho, fuck those guys, their unemployment and massive ego is destroying hundreds of clueless kids' servers just for the lols. their exploits are ultimately weak however, you can just turn on whitelist and make regular backups. the dumbasses that said "cope" or "cry more", are probably just some bored-ass teenagers with nothing better to do, going out of their way to grief random people.
Ogmur saying essentially “If I didn't grief, someone else would” and claiming that he’s doing it to help make people more aware angers me. You can make them aware without causing irreversible damage to people’s cherished builds
i love the fact that they are bullying children with the most childish behaviour possible. not only children of course, but most people in this try to make themselves ""look good"" by saying they are only bullying children, because it's sooo much better being mean to underage people -.-
amongst people who automate griefing, destroying entire servers and all the memories some people might have had with it, with petty excuses like "showing them the vulnerabilities" or straight up ill intent, mat stands out as someone trying to do the right thing, directly showing hosts their vulnerabilities without abusing them, and showing them how to fix it. so why on earth do people like shrekt get a link to their channel in the description??? these people don't deserve ANY attention, and it baffles me to see corrupt people like these get promoted- even with the video not really taking a side on this issue- while the people trying to stop this barely get a minute at the end of the video. stay safe server hosts. praise the anti griefers watching out for us.
Exactly, I don't run a server and I sometimes find griefing videos mildly amusing, but that whole thing was just the dude coping over his terrible behavior. He knows what he's doing is terrible so this is his way of making himself feel better about it. The whole "if it wasn't me it would've been someone else" defense is the biggest cope of them all because no, it wouldn't have been someone else lol. Most people aren't doing this to random servers. That's straight up the defense guilty criminals tell themselves to make themselves feel better about it.
This happened to my server recently. I ran a small cracked server for friends and some old school mates to join for around a ~year I want to say. Never really thought much about security; I ran a few servers around 2015-2016 with absolutely no whitelist or anything and nothing really scary happened back then. I was a bit smarter this time, as I did have the whitelist enabled because i heard that people would join to blow everything up. Anyway, fast forward to 2 months ago, I had just reconnected with a group of friends with whom I used to play back in the day. I removed the whitelist for THREE DAYS to let everyone join and when I logged on during the weekend, everything was destroyed. Bases super far away from the spawn were obliterated. Spawn buildings destroyed and everything. Looking back, that was probably a really bad idea but I didn't know any better I guess. (P.S. I think it was that "ogmur" guy potentially, I remember seeing something about that on the screen when I logged on.) Anyways, that's a hard lesson learned for me. I had no idea this was such a widespread issue. Thanks for this video mate, you definitely earned a subscribe here.
@@TheMisterEpic Bro's talking about how his sever got brutally molested by griefers and you're like "glad you enjoyed" 💀 fr i enjoy when my server gets griefed because spending thousands hours for something for it just to get destroyed is fun you know 💀
The same happened to our server but actually some of the players were able to witness it, we were able to install a back up filles, but lost some hours of work
I hate the low lifes that grief random servers just to make people mad. I can't go for a week on any small survival realm without people's stuff getting stolen and my house getting blown up.
@@ZenithSolsticeYT yes, I’m talking about other servers, of course the only way to stop people like that is to turn on whitelist (or just use enderchests)
"He preffer to spend his time griefing twitch streamers servers" Why doesn't he spend his time hitting up the gym to lose a few thousand pounds instead?
@@lmnknah we don’t because we’re not as mentally unstable as griefers are, destroying someones casual server for a tiny hit of dopamine. Get a life and go to the gym or something. Smh
8:54 - *Yah but he's still kinda an asshole.* "If it wasn't me it would've been someone else"- The age old battlecry of those looking to cope/justify there wrongful actions so they don't have to face themselves or lose any sleep at night over how they hurt others. whether or not Ogmur does it or someone else does not make his own actions correct. Nor does leaving ways to combat against griefing *only after* completely F-ing up someone else's entire server.
Yeah, saying "if it was me it would've been someone else" is literally just saying "well if someone is going to be upset, at least let me able to enjoy their misery" Those people are psychopaths
@@fuzzyd1436 Definitely, and the people who say "if you don't take this precaution you deserve this" are the "she shouldn't have worn that dress" types.
Although vastly different extent of harm, it is the same type of flawed reasoning: a person looking to justify their bad behavior and blame their victim(s).@@HAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
I believe that mass griefing like this could be considered unprovoked harassment. "It's just a block game" or "it was all in Minecraft" aren't excuses for harassment that the courts will except. As far as I know, there isn't an exception to making or acting out threats in videogames. However, it's not just about the griefing because maybe that as an isolated incident could be dismissed. They have also created software specifically to spy on victims on mass, which flys right in the face of any good intentions. Additionally, some of those victims were likely known to be minors or mentally disabled and these groups are legally protected from spying or harassment in most countries on the planet, even if it's digital in nature.
I've had the user "shepan" repeatedly try to join one of my servers several months back. I had whitelist on, and upon checking the server log, I saw several dozens of connection attempts. I set the port for my server to a custom number, and this issue subsided.
had that shepan guy aswell, logged on next day and someone joined under my username and /filled it with racism and massive holes 💀💀they were stupid enough to not notice the backup plugin however
I enjoy manual greifing, and I prefer more of a trolling approach as the 99% of people I meet don't deserve it who in their right minds would automate greifing?? like just ruining the most magnificent art form shout out to serverfinder plugin for meteor and coppenheimer
genuinely disgusted by these people. ‘oh, if i didn’t do it, someone else would’ is LITERALLY the excuse of a serial killer. don’t for a second pretend you’re on a high horse, that you’re ‘showing them the dangers of being unsecured’, because you’re not, you’re like an actual child ruining others’ joy for a filthy dopamine high. the only possible excuse for this behavior is literal nihilism (‘you’ in a general sense, not talking to anyone in particular)
Love the mentality of "If I didn't do X, then someone else would have". It is a facade for their lack of morality. I thing griefing is understandable on big servers where you'd expect it could be a possibility, and they're able to do roll backs. But on small servers where you'd expect to trust all the players (Because you know them) is completely uncalled for and is often extremely stressful. I'm glad to hear Mat Scanner exists, but they should update the scanner to make it more clear what the issue is and how to fix it.
@@Tar.o There's a reason why whenever a cartoon wants to show that a character is a bully they either ruin someone's drawings, kick down their sand castles, or break their toys. It's because it's so obviously an inexcusable thing to do that serves no other purpose other than giving the bully joy from seeing others being miserable. For many kids, their minecraft server with friends is worth way more than a toy or a simple sand castle.
It really says a lot about you as a person when you have to join random peoples servers and ruin there days. Of all the things you could be doing in the world this is the most useless and disgusting thing you can be doing. I hope these people find any other hobby and find happiness without tearing others down
imagine your server is like a memorial of a death person you love and play with in the minecraft world. Griefer just join and destroy everything is leaving you with a mail 💀
Well, if you went out of your way to host it on a public IP address, you should probably at least have some basic sense of online server security like having some kind of authentification (password or whitelist). These servers were literally set up to automatically give full access to anyone wo asks (no auth) and while that's fine for servers on a home network, it's very bad for anything accessible from the internet.
@Tomas-yg1xz A lot of people who play minecraft casually do not know what say bedrock edition is even if they play it It's unrealistic to expect them to know that
I don't agree that griefing is a form of trolling. It's vandalism. It doesn't matter if it's virtual assets you ruin, or physical, if people spent time and labour creating these things. Glad that you don't do it anymore, but causing emotional distress and wasting someone's time like that is no joke.
That justification is like stealing someone's unlocked car and leaving a note saying "Lock your car next time sucker." It doesn't change the fact you did something horrible.
My friend's Server got griefed like a week ago. Someone joined as an opped acc and basically replaced everything with air. Online mode was disabled, so that explains how they got in. Fortunately, we made a backup two weeks ago, so not too much got lost It's honestly sad seeing human beings doing stuff like that.
you somehow missed the complete post of this whole comment just to smoke your copium and try and defend griefing servers? anyone who defends these pitiful humans is no better than them. a griefer or griefer defender, they’re all the same in the end. jerks with no morals
ok let me be more useful than the other two... i understand that they had their reasons to crack (i did host cracked servers at some point bc friends of mine didn't have the game), so i won't do the morale thing of "boo piracy bad" because fuck that. you can't force everyone to buy the game, and sometimes you just wanna play with your friends. unfortunately i don't think there is much you can do for the security of a cracked server, so the next best thing is backups. actually maybe bots would struggle joining a modded server aswell? maybe you could just make your server have forge and have one mod required as a sort of "key" to enter. not the best solution of course, but i don't think they would be able to log on at all. i don't have much knowledge on this but worth trying if you're willing to!
Fun fact: the fifth column actually went after one of my friends personally and was planning on raiding our server JUST cause we were friends with her. They never did tho lol
Ogmur griefing servers "just" to teach people how to protect their servers against griefing AND giving tutorials about griefing is like shooting a school "just" to give them a lesson about strenghtening their security while also leaving propaganda to your gun store. Plus, younger players won't go into discord and learn how to code to not get griefed again, which are arguably the most vulnerable and the ones with bigger repercussions. That's simply stupid to justify griefing with such a silly answer, the guy clearly makes money from it and is just trying to disguise it as some twisted form of education.
@@proton808s i mean the scale doesn't matter. griefing is vandalism, you don't rob someone to show them how easy it is to steal their wallet. (i love using weird comparisons) these griefers just want to destroy, to get attention, and probably to see their parents again -_-
how terminally online do you have to be to develop these bots? I swear, I'm a tf2 player and it feels like some will stop at nothing just to make sure others can't have fun.
It's mental illness combined with no job or life. The last time I played TF2 every game I'd join there was some loser who had set up a bot to headshot everyone.
Imagine sneaking into someone's house and destroying it and then thinking "Well if I didn't do it someone else would have, so it is good that I did it."
And then the criminal proceed to explain how to effectively lock your doors after he broke in and demolished you house. totally helpful it isn't like that info could have been given earlier when it could have been useful.
mat goes in your house and offers you a lock for your window. shrekt goes in your house, smashes every wall, robs you, and then asks you to join his discord server to fix your window.
ran into one of these server scanner bots on a public server a while back the bot just warned us about the potential malicious bots and left (essentially doing a PSA) good to know there was at least one person trying to use the tech for good EDIT: got to the anti-griefers part of the video. pretty sure it was them actually.
Why can't we just play Minecraft, have fun, hang out with friends, and be chill? Why ruin so many people's days? These aren't trolls they are straight bullies. Like griefing friends servers is fine but not innocent random servers, atleast let them make a backup.
This is happening to my servers right now. Whitelist is enabled and no single bot came through thanks to online mode, but all the attempts of connecting to the server where done with our correct active usernames. And we don't use standard ports for hosting. They are not joking, they mean it.
@madvlad-pe5zmeven 19 is pushing it a bit. I'd say anyone older than 15 doing this is just incredibly immature and a horrible horrible person. If he feels okay about doing this to people online then what's stopping him doing nasty things to random people in the street.
@madvlad-pe5zmexcept they didnt program any of that, they used someone else's project to find cracked servers, change username to the owner's, then grief. They arent smart at all
I always learnt from very ethical people. Considering even that searching stuff was made by a 16 yo, I always was in the other hand being thought how to secure your servers, and how to protect yourself and others. Not the first time where we’ve found vulnerable servers of peers and told them “it’s not secure, you should consider making it better” I never was in an relation also FYI, and currently 19.
@@ketchup901 You could have actually tried to verify my claim instead of being confidently wrong. Search "TF2: Spot the Hacker - Cat Bot" by Maxbox. Or even "TF2: Spot the Hacker - Lag Bots". These are the earliest video examples I can find and it wasnt hard maxbox was very popular and also my personal experience from nearly 8 years playing the game.
If you host any servers, this is why you should always keep it up to date with security methods (such as online mode, whitelist, and/or security plugins) and ALWAYS make backups. I made a python script to automatically backup my servers every 6 hours, and it proved useful as my main server had every structure annihilated. Stay safe and think like a greifer when managing servers.
I actually had a bot join my private server that sent a message in the chat warning anyone that could be on to make sure to whitelist the server so that griefer bots don't get on. That server has been exclusively whitelisted since
Happened to us these days, turned whitelist on but with online mode disabled it had no effect, had to buy a copy of minecraft to one of my gfs (the other already had one), turned on online mode and whitelist, these stupid bots are still trying to enter, some even use our usernames, but it's funny to see them all just get disconnected and the same IP popping in the logs multiple times, this wouldn't happen if everyone had a job
The fifth column once targeted me. They accused me and my friends of being racist and other false stuff. They’re really weird tbh. But as long as you don’t give them a reaction they leave you alone. Also setup DDoS protection on your server and enable a whitelist. Then they really can’t do anything
Griefing servers like this is really just mental illness behaviour and honestly it's quite repugnant. Like what ? You have to ruin other people's fun and hard work to feel any sort of emotion ? Go touch grass, get help. And it's not even taking into account just how dark it can be, like imagine you had a server you played on with a friend and that friend died, or is now fighting with some terminal illness or anything of that sort really, and it's was just a small community so you don't have whitelist on, because who tf would find the IP and than some random person joins and destroys everything, all the builds with the memories attached, only to than tell you like ,,well uh uh, you should have protected your server better 🤓'' or worse just get griefed by a bunch of bots, making it even less personal, just a destruction for the sake of destruction. I can guarantee you that with the amount of servers that exist, it has probably happened already, more than once, and it will happen in the future as well. This is just a sad and repugnant behaviour. And no, none of the excuses are valid, just because someone didn't have their server protected, doesn't mean you should grief it, likewise just because you tell them how to fix their server protection, doesn't make it ok either - that would be like shooting someone in the chest and than telling them ,,well you see, you should have had a bullet proof vest''. Same with excuses like ,,if I haven't done it someone else would have'' - even if that was the case, like so ? - just because someone else might do it in the future doesn't mean it has to be you, it's like stealing things from the supermarket and saying the same thing - ,,if I haven't done it, someone else would have'' - that's not a justification, that's just an excuse to make yourself feel better about your shitty behaviour. Griefing, especially by just destroying everything or covering it in lava is the least creative thing of all, and the fact that the kinds of people who do it have to result to that to feel any kind of emotion is honestly quite sad, I pity them. They probably live very miserable lives if this is what they resolve to to feel any kind of joy.
These people ether have way to much free time or literally have no goals in life outside of being as antisocial as possible and ruining other people joy thay themselves lack.
if they cared at all, they would do what mat does, trying to warn people about their vulnerabilities. but they are here to cause damage, probably bc they need attention. so, if you ever meet one of these people, brag about your parents!
Matscan was on our server a few months ago, right before I was logging off. I told my bf to whitelist the server a few days before but on that day I looked right over his shoulder so that he really did it! There are so many good people around and I was happy we met one that day :)
That moment when it only goes up from here. The same tools used to scan and check servers, can also be used to check user accounts. So you could get a bot join your server, scan you, then join every server you have connected to.
Multiple reasons. It could be a toxic coping mechanism or just psychopathic behaviour, along other stuff Griefers will always dodge answering this fully though, and just resort to insult you in hopes to get you mad and divert the topic
@@daridon2483 just goes to show really, 5 months later and this comment in particular goes unanswered. every other comment has some random asshat blowing everyone's ears off about huffing copium and staying mad.
I think the main reason my friends and I haven't been hit been hit by any server-scanning griefing attacks is because we pretty much exclusively play modded and use custom mod sets, in addition to a whitelist. So even if an account were compromised, the griefer would need to figure out all the mods that are on the server required on the client to connect. Too much effort to go through for most people doing this when they could just move on to the next target. The mods effectively act almost like a second whitelist. On top of that, several of my friends who I play minecraft with are mod developers, and we often run private servers with development builds of their mods not yet available to the public, meaning in order to get in and grief they'd need to hack into the computer of someone who plays on the server (or playtests the mods otherwise) and acquire these mods that way, which is illegal and easily caught via logs if they aren't careful.
Augma: Uh, I haaave to grief servers NOW, or I WON'T be able to LATERRR! See, it's ok if I destroy the builds of innocent players just trying to enjoy their afternoon.
"All the servers are being destroyed, so I want to have a chance to destroy one before they're all gone!" Reminds me of the kinds of people who go out of their way to kill endangered species because they want an opportunity to hunt one before they go extinct. At least these guys are doing it in a children's block game, I guess.
I had a bot join my game named "matscan" and it straight up said "Hi im a friendly bot .. blah blah blah... this server does not have a whitelist" then gave me stuff how to whitelist it. Never closed my server faster in my life
this happened to a group of my friends and i! several unknown people showed up at various times, but only one of them spawned any blocks. it was just a few pillars, no lava or anything, but still a very scary experience for what was supposed to be a casual romp with friends. i will never understand why people do this.
comments like these need more attention (unlike the griefers lol). these people should've been anonymised and criticised, not GIVEN A LINK TO THEIR CHANNELS IN THE DESCRIPTION.
Thanks for spreading awareness of this issue! I just finished the video and I heard of this before but didn’t think much of it but after watching this I’m thankful that you’re here to warn us. ❤
This is pretty much a good example of the game that leaves players under security vulnerability by default without any of easily sensible countermeasures. Many private servers are improperly operated and configured to prevent griefing. Mojang only made the countermeasure IF you pay them a premium, and it's not even available for Java players. It's pretty harsh and sad truth.
I had experienced it before. I was playing with my friends on my own server and some random players started joining. Luckily I was online and immediately shut down the server. I then enable whitelist afterward to prevent it happening again.
It's actually crazy, something similar to this happened to me all the way back in 2017. I could never figure out what happened. I'm not sure if its something similar to this or not but it ruined an old SMP I was running.
the way I see it, the people who do this never matured beyond 11-12 years old🤷♂️ it's a pretty douchbag move to go around ruining someone else's hobby because you don't have the empathy to see value in their work
Them griefing servers because they are "cracked" is just pathetic. Griefing people you think are in the wrong doesn't justify you being an awful person. In the past, I disabled "online-mode" because the modpack I wanted to use was preventing players from being able to join. Does changing that setting mean I deserve to have all my stuff griefed?
With the last server I had before switching to bedrock, I had someone log in randomly but it was pretty wholesome. I didn't have time to get on it that day and forgot to set up the whitelist. When I eventually hopped on, I found a little building on the beach near spawn with a chest full of ores in it. Someone had found the server, dug down to diamond level, branched a bit, and left me all the stuff they mined with a sign letting me know to enjoy it.
My mc server was attacked many times in the past, it was trully a horrible expierience. So here are some advises on what to do if you have a cracked server: 1. Whitelist on 2. Add some type of authentication 3. Make so that nobody before auth has op 4. Cancel every possible event in your plugin before login 5. Make logging proccess in a diffrent mc world 6. MAKE BACKUPS !!!
I remember these griefers invaded a minecraft server me and my friends had. I was safe since I had an underwater base but everyone else's large projects and bases were all destroyed. It completely killed everyone's motivation to play on the server even when our friend did a rollback, shit sucks.
On a serious note: greifing is a scumbag thing to do, but I could understand why people might find it fun Mass griefing and automated griefing? I’m speechless at the lack of value in these people. I hope that whatever they are going through that made them this way can get better.
9:00 this is literally the kind of person the 1972 lorax movie called out look up the scene "sitting down with myself" people justify their actions by saying "if i didn't do them, than someone else would" and it's a horrible justification
Mojang could really have been avoiding this chaos caused by griefers by turning on all servers the whitelist option on by default and this would have not been a problem at all.
It often can be more a host issue, as they can change the config as the server is made so even if Microsoft changed it not much protection would be addrd
whitleist shoudnt be an option, you should be forced to use it, larger servers can just create automatic whitelist plugins and shit, but this would stop griefing very fast. imo mojang should also add some way to detect griefing and just delete accounts of griefers. if they run windows they should also just wipe the persons entire network
i understand why kids would be doing this. like there is no responsibility and u wanna do stuff. and I even see the point of teaching server owners a lessonsto be more careful. like that could even teach some life lessons, be careful on the internet etc. (thought there are def better ways to go about it, and that sounded more like an excuse to do it) but when adults do it just for sadistic fun like that one guy, it just feels like an adult going to a playground destroying sandcastles in front of kids. that just super petty
with server scanners i just join random servers and i play with them peacefully and i made some good friends and memories using them, but nowadays i instantly get banned from any server i join because so much griefers nowadays.
@@canadian128 should u like it if a game you were playing a game with your firends for this to happen to? No then shut it, if yes why, to spit then shut it, if not then shut it all the same
Yeah, I had a box server in minehut and when I logged off to go to sleep, two members that looked innocent had spawned dragons, withers, and destroyed my server. I contacted Minehut and everything is fine now but this got me really scared.
I myself was scanned by matscan and server seeker, and was terrified. After matscan joined nothing happened and then some other bots started showing, one being an actual player who started spamming the anticheat logs. I thought I had whitelist enabled, but no, I had not. Since then I always make sure the whitelist is enabled.
About a year ago this happened to the server I host for my Discord. It was in offline mode, so they logged in as one of the admins and opped their own accounts. Luckily, I was awake at the time and I immediately stopped the server when I saw this “admin” join at a time I knew he wasn’t able to, so they didn’t get far. But after that it was no longer in offline mode + requires verifying in the Discord before being able to join the first time.
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Imagine having your server completely ruined only to find out that it was automated
It's NUTS is what it is. I don't get it. WHY even DO such a thing!?? ... idk..
Happened to my server had to shut it down twice and restart
tf2 dealing with an even more widescale botting issue knows many possible reasons why someone would@@ethanogle9088
use a whitelist and add only your friends is one way of protecting your server, there are other things you can do but for some reason alot of people dont even do this@@Finnh-17
@@ethanogle9088 yeah, like, griefing i kinda understand, is like what misterepic said, is a type o trolling, but what do you get from a automated grief????
Finding random private servers just to grief them is such unemployed behavior.
This. It's not even like it's challenging or interesting. I'd almost pity these losers if they weren't so greasy.
thats why its been automated
was about to comment that
No it isn't unemployed behavior.
*IT'S PARENTLESS BEHAVIOR!*
Jealous of them having actual hobbies and not spending all their free time watching game shows on TV?
I really don't like people saying something like, "At least it's me who have done it and someone more bad will do it, and at least I have the decency I teach them how to ensure this doesn't happen again. After having my fun destroying this server."
My guy you can do the nice thing, log into server, not grief and tell people how to secure their own servers. It's like you got beaten up by a rando for doing nothing to them and then they say "hey, come let me teach you how to defend yourself."
Yeah pretty much. It's textbook "I'm guilty and coping with it" behavior. It's gaslighting victims of terrible behavior into thinking they're at fault for it, when they're really not. It's just someone trying to absolve themselves from guilt. The reality is that *maybe* a few of the servers he griefed would've been griefed without him doing it. Most of them would've been fine had he not done anything. Deep down he's guilty about it, but it's fun for him so he made up a way to make himself seem like the good guy for doing bad things.
yeah just like mat did with their scanner, just log in, inform, log out
@@wholesome193 They're using server scanners. I'm pretty sure many other people would find that IP and grief and not tell how to secure for next time. Then again they could just not grief or provide a save state (something they could also automate and use when the server owner asks). I guess they like doing a little trolling but they could give save states.
This. It would be so simple to do some very noticeable yet easy to clean up griefing with signs pointing the person to a site that tells them how to secure their server. At that point, they've been warned and if a "more bad" person comes along afterwards and destroys their world, then it's their problem.
Guy smashes a kid's sandcastle: "See kid? That's why you need to defend your sandcastle, to prevent guys like me from destroying it."
Kid: "B-b-b-but ... what about my sandcastle ~~~ I've spent so much time on it ~~~ 😭😭"
Whenever you feel useless, remeber that there are people who spend their day destroying things from random people
they're worse than useless
@@chrome7fan Are you a physician?
Lmao as if destroying things isn't at least as fun as building them
@@chrome7fan yeah, you sure do
@@eiweioverdrive6951 i dont think doctors make parts for NASA rockets
Minecraft: "my servers are getting raided by Bots!"
Tf2: "first time?"
fr
@@ogmur hello there superior griefer
FINE SHOT MATE
@@parispcNICE SHOT
GOOD ONE MATE!
GOOD ONE MATE!
GOOD ONE MATE!
GOOD ONE MATE!
GOOD ONE MATE!
The fact that their reasoning (or at least one of them) for griefing servers is "if I don't do it now I won't be able to in the future" REALLY shows how big of scumbags these people are.
Edit: Beware of 12 year olds and/or trolls in the replies
Sounds like the idiots that go running around murdering people just because they use the same logic. Yeesh Welcome to the Mouse Utopia Experiment Version Human. Enjoy the Decline.
Yeah that excuse doesn't fly. "oh well it would have been someone else" we aren't playing ifs and buts. You did it asshole. We aren't talking about someone else doing it, the problem is HE DID IT.
He could easily be educational and informative without being this fucking malicious.
@@Tar.o you're a massive fucking loser for trying to defend this shit lmfao. "normie way", you definitely spend hours on reddit
@@Tar.oNah, they're scumbags.
@@Tar.o big L take. Hurting others for fun is deplorable.
These people are honestly sad for getting bots to ruin servers
it’s genuinely filthy
You don't say!! such a genius.
@@Pickleduck.Nah human griefers are better
@@BeargameGD is this a joke comment? because mine was.
There was a group that was specializing on scanning and manually griefing UA server since around 2021, they got raided and closed in Oct 2023 sadly. But that was hella epic, like they posted the "positive feedback" they've been receiving in their VK group, with full email addresses for anyone to reply)))
Griefing random people's servers automatically is a cowardish, stupid and mentally ill behaviour. What kind of monster just decides to ruin people's fun and hard work just because their lifes are so unfulfilling that their only way to achieve a smudge of emotion is to cause harm to other people. This behaviour is downright disgusting
They get sastifaction from the anger which come from their victims
Projection?
“Cowardish”
Ye bud, very cowardly of us. Stay mad.
Agreed speak your truth!
i smell a lot of unemployment on this reply section.
tbh tho, fuck those guys, their unemployment and massive ego is destroying hundreds of clueless kids' servers just for the lols. their exploits are ultimately weak however, you can just turn on whitelist and make regular backups. the dumbasses that said "cope" or "cry more", are probably just some bored-ass teenagers with nothing better to do, going out of their way to grief random people.
Ogmur saying essentially “If I didn't grief, someone else would” and claiming that he’s doing it to help make people more aware angers me. You can make them aware without causing irreversible damage to people’s cherished builds
i love the fact that they are bullying children with the most childish behaviour possible. not only children of course, but most people in this try to make themselves ""look good"" by saying they are only bullying children, because it's sooo much better being mean to underage people -.-
@@spode9047 tbf they're children themselves - ogmur is ~14 y/o
@@jp263 the next generation is looking mighty fine. we're all doomed.
@@jp263tbf people that age usually get a job
"ok but you still did it. You're still an asshole."
amongst people who automate griefing, destroying entire servers and all the memories some people might have had with it, with petty excuses like "showing them the vulnerabilities" or straight up ill intent, mat stands out as someone trying to do the right thing, directly showing hosts their vulnerabilities without abusing them, and showing them how to fix it.
so why on earth do people like shrekt get a link to their channel in the description??? these people don't deserve ANY attention, and it baffles me to see corrupt people like these get promoted- even with the video not really taking a side on this issue- while the people trying to stop this barely get a minute at the end of the video.
stay safe server hosts. praise the anti griefers watching out for us.
Exactly, I don't run a server and I sometimes find griefing videos mildly amusing, but that whole thing was just the dude coping over his terrible behavior. He knows what he's doing is terrible so this is his way of making himself feel better about it. The whole "if it wasn't me it would've been someone else" defense is the biggest cope of them all because no, it wouldn't have been someone else lol. Most people aren't doing this to random servers. That's straight up the defense guilty criminals tell themselves to make themselves feel better about it.
Cope and seethe
you have no life@@MCLVideo
@@MCLVideo go jerk of and think about your life on post nut clarity
@@paxlux5288Bad people don't like being called bad people.
This happened to my server recently. I ran a small cracked server for friends and some old school mates to join for around a ~year I want to say. Never really thought much about security; I ran a few servers around 2015-2016 with absolutely no whitelist or anything and nothing really scary happened back then. I was a bit smarter this time, as I did have the whitelist enabled because i heard that people would join to blow everything up. Anyway, fast forward to 2 months ago, I had just reconnected with a group of friends with whom I used to play back in the day. I removed the whitelist for THREE DAYS to let everyone join and when I logged on during the weekend, everything was destroyed. Bases super far away from the spawn were obliterated. Spawn buildings destroyed and everything. Looking back, that was probably a really bad idea but I didn't know any better I guess. (P.S. I think it was that "ogmur" guy potentially, I remember seeing something about that on the screen when I logged on.) Anyways, that's a hard lesson learned for me. I had no idea this was such a widespread issue. Thanks for this video mate, you definitely earned a subscribe here.
Glad you enjoyed!
@@TheMisterEpic Bro's talking about how his sever got brutally molested by griefers and you're like "glad you enjoyed" 💀 fr i enjoy when my server gets griefed because spending thousands hours for something for it just to get destroyed is fun you know 💀
@@tomajjslook at the end of the comment, they said they enjoyed the video
The same happened to our server but actually some of the players were able to witness it, we were able to install a back up filles, but lost some hours of work
I hate the low lifes that grief random servers just to make people mad. I can't go for a week on any small survival realm without people's stuff getting stolen and my house getting blown up.
That’s because you need to put your items in ender chests and hide your base.
or just enable a whitelist@@TaySplatoon
@@TaySplatoon didn’t he say they use Xray?
@@ZenithSolsticeYT yes, I’m talking about other servers, of course the only way to stop people like that is to turn on whitelist (or just use enderchests)
@@TaySplatoon what would stop fifth column from hacking?
"He preffer to spend his time griefing twitch streamers servers" Why doesn't he spend his time hitting up the gym to lose a few thousand pounds instead?
hahaha
Yep especially to the guy who fucking automated the process. Touch grass.
@@macgeorge8229He automated the process so he can get shredded and get bitches while you guys cry over pixels lmfaooo 😂😂😂
@@macgeorge8229if ever there was a person that deserved to be told to touch grass, it's that guy.
@@lmnknah we don’t because we’re not as mentally unstable as griefers are, destroying someones casual server for a tiny hit of dopamine. Get a life and go to the gym or something. Smh
8:54 - *Yah but he's still kinda an asshole.* "If it wasn't me it would've been someone else"- The age old battlecry of those looking to cope/justify there wrongful actions so they don't have to face themselves or lose any sleep at night over how they hurt others. whether or not Ogmur does it or someone else does not make his own actions correct. Nor does leaving ways to combat against griefing *only after* completely F-ing up someone else's entire server.
Yeah, saying "if it was me it would've been someone else" is literally just saying "well if someone is going to be upset, at least let me able to enjoy their misery"
Those people are psychopaths
@@fuzzyd1436 Definitely, and the people who say "if you don't take this precaution you deserve this" are the "she shouldn't have worn that dress" types.
@@ademiscnot sure how rape is relevant to destroying a minecraft server but ok
hard to find many people whose lives are that sad so it doesnt even really make sense
Although vastly different extent of harm, it is the same type of flawed reasoning: a person looking to justify their bad behavior and blame their victim(s).@@HAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
I believe that mass griefing like this could be considered unprovoked harassment. "It's just a block game" or "it was all in Minecraft" aren't excuses for harassment that the courts will except. As far as I know, there isn't an exception to making or acting out threats in videogames.
However, it's not just about the griefing because maybe that as an isolated incident could be dismissed. They have also created software specifically to spy on victims on mass, which flys right in the face of any good intentions. Additionally, some of those victims were likely known to be minors or mentally disabled and these groups are legally protected from spying or harassment in most countries on the planet, even if it's digital in nature.
I've had the user "shepan" repeatedly try to join one of my servers several months back. I had whitelist on, and upon checking the server log, I saw several dozens of connection attempts. I set the port for my server to a custom number, and this issue subsided.
had that shepan guy aswell, logged on next day and someone joined under my username and /filled it with racism and massive holes 💀💀they were stupid enough to not notice the backup plugin however
Same here lol but that was almost a year ago still in my ban list
We should hunt this shepan creature down and parade its corpse through the nearest town.
The damn bots took our griefing jobs!
Hahahahahaha
they have already taken our panting jobs and now griefing too????? what else will the robots take from us?
THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!
AI will never replace the true artists. :)
@@thef1fthcolumn so true
The server greifing is becoming automated :(
We're still griefing by hand, don't worry. :)
@thef1fthcolumn Shiver me timbers 😱😱
so sad that AI is taking the jobs of innnocent civilians :3
I enjoy manual greifing, and I prefer more of a trolling approach as the 99% of people I meet don't deserve it
who in their right minds would automate greifing?? like just ruining the most magnificent art form
shout out to serverfinder plugin for meteor and coppenheimer
@@thef1fthcolumnI genuinely cant tell if i should find this comforting or worrying 😭
genuinely disgusted by these people. ‘oh, if i didn’t do it, someone else would’ is LITERALLY the excuse of a serial killer. don’t for a second pretend you’re on a high horse, that you’re ‘showing them the dangers of being unsecured’, because you’re not, you’re like an actual child ruining others’ joy for a filthy dopamine high. the only possible excuse for this behavior is literal nihilism
(‘you’ in a general sense, not talking to anyone in particular)
They should actually pick up philosopy and learn something rather than be an ass on the internet.
Nihilism doesn't always cause this behavior.
@@Iejdnx oh very true, i was more referring to the fact that nihilism could be used as an excuse, if a shoddy one
@@br1ghts0ng I understand
mad af
telling people the solution to stop griefers after griefing is like committing murder and telling them how to be less killable
imagine how sad you have to be to do this. Finding pleasure in ruining someone else’s work is honestly so tragic.
Sadism.
roblox drawing games reflect this perfectly
baited hard.
@@waterburgr what do you mean
so a bunch of nerds who found out how to explode your minecraft server?
why are they just wasting their time
They are unemployed
@@monkegaming6416 What's wrong with being unemployed?
Being unemployed is one thing but intsead of trying to get a job you spend your time on griefing minecraft servers. That’s the pathetic thing
@@MCLVideohaving too much time and being a disgrace of mankind
@@MCLVideo no bitches, no hygiene and most important, many chins
8:13 "Well he might have killed your entire family but at least he told you how to avoid that from happening in future so he is a good guy"
some of these excuses make so much sense!!!!!! griefers are so cool!!!! me too i wanna have no friends!!!!
griefers are just pathetic.
Love the mentality of "If I didn't do X, then someone else would have". It is a facade for their lack of morality.
I thing griefing is understandable on big servers where you'd expect it could be a possibility, and they're able to do roll backs. But on small servers where you'd expect to trust all the players (Because you know them) is completely uncalled for and is often extremely stressful.
I'm glad to hear Mat Scanner exists, but they should update the scanner to make it more clear what the issue is and how to fix it.
Honestly they should learn compassion and acknowledge that there are people behind the screen.
removing blocks on a stupid block game isn;t an immoral action, grow up
@@Tar.oimagine being an entitled brat who thinks they can tell people what to do and care about
@@okieness9849 it;s a block game
@@Tar.o There's a reason why whenever a cartoon wants to show that a character is a bully they either ruin someone's drawings, kick down their sand castles, or break their toys. It's because it's so obviously an inexcusable thing to do that serves no other purpose other than giving the bully joy from seeing others being miserable. For many kids, their minecraft server with friends is worth way more than a toy or a simple sand castle.
It really says a lot about you as a person when you have to join random peoples servers and ruin there days. Of all the things you could be doing in the world this is the most useless and disgusting thing you can be doing. I hope these people find any other hobby and find happiness without tearing others down
skill issue
@@Shrek_Has_Covid19 nice bait!
@@Shrek_Has_Covid19 attention seek somewhere else
@@demo2910 im not thats my opinion
@@Shrek_Has_Covid19Nice opinion. You better replace your bedroom lock with a more secured one. We don't want anyone griefing your bedroom now can we?
remember to always enable whitelist
If you don't have a whitelist you're asking for this
I'm going to assume Jeb's Private server probably had whitelist enabled.
but what about non cracked servers
what@@godofportal5905
@@WolfDeity jebs didn't ironically
these guys are assholes. I used to love server scanning and just looking around on random servers. This is why we can't have nice things
Server scanning was never a nice thing, giving people the ability to find servers across the internet is just begging for it to be used maliciously.
@@Zoditronthen protect your server damnit
imagine being so evil, you use high level complex botting systems to destroy people's servers in a children's game
Or just unemployed
tf2 bot hosters:
Imagine being so dense that you call people evil for having a hobby
@@MCLVideoyou are bait,def bait
@@MCLVideothats like cutting peoples kneecaps as a hobby,sthu
Imagine how miserable you would have to be to destroy a minecraft server for no reason but to ruin others fun
“Child hood dream of greifing servers” is about the saddest thing I’ve ever heard
yeah, someone got their head stuck into the toilet one too many times
i used to have dreams of being a youtuber, being a griefer sounds boring as shit
Even AI took out the jobs of Trollers
but it's not AI though
Minecraft: hey, wanna see me do something cool?
[ BECOMES TF2 ]
imagine your server is like a memorial of a death person you love and play with in the minecraft world. Griefer just join and destroy everything is leaving you with a mail 💀
The worst part is that you don't have to imagine it as it is very much likely that it happened already 💀
Well, if you went out of your way to host it on a public IP address, you should probably at least have some basic sense of online server security like having some kind of authentification (password or whitelist). These servers were literally set up to automatically give full access to anyone wo asks (no auth) and while that's fine for servers on a home network, it's very bad for anything accessible from the internet.
@@Tomas9970_1 You shouldn’t have to worry about that happening at all scumbag.
@Tomas-yg1xz
A lot of people who play minecraft casually do not know what say bedrock edition is even if they play it
It's unrealistic to expect them to know that
@@Ramosway2who cares about them then? if they can't and don't care to protect themselves why should we babysit them
I don't agree that griefing is a form of trolling. It's vandalism. It doesn't matter if it's virtual assets you ruin, or physical, if people spent time and labour creating these things. Glad that you don't do it anymore, but causing emotional distress and wasting someone's time like that is no joke.
this comment needs more attention ^
it's really disgusting seeing all these people cause so much harm just for attention.
Touch grass lmao
@@nicwatkins1737 npc
@@nicwatkins1737I think you should take your own advice
Touch grass lmao @@nicwatkins1737
That justification is like stealing someone's unlocked car and leaving a note saying "Lock your car next time sucker." It doesn't change the fact you did something horrible.
My friend's Server got griefed like a week ago. Someone joined as an opped acc and basically replaced everything with air. Online mode was disabled, so that explains how they got in. Fortunately, we made a backup two weeks ago, so not too much got lost
It's honestly sad seeing human beings doing stuff like that.
Piracy is illegal, cope.
you somehow missed the complete post of this whole comment just to smoke your copium and try and defend griefing servers? anyone who defends these pitiful humans is no better than them. a griefer or griefer defender, they’re all the same in the end. jerks with no morals
@@mrbruh_officalvevo If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing.
ok let me be more useful than the other two...
i understand that they had their reasons to crack (i did host cracked servers at some point bc friends of mine didn't have the game), so i won't do the morale thing of "boo piracy bad" because fuck that. you can't force everyone to buy the game, and sometimes you just wanna play with your friends. unfortunately i don't think there is much you can do for the security of a cracked server, so the next best thing is backups.
actually maybe bots would struggle joining a modded server aswell? maybe you could just make your server have forge and have one mod required as a sort of "key" to enter. not the best solution of course, but i don't think they would be able to log on at all. i don't have much knowledge on this but worth trying if you're willing to!
@@mrbruh_officalvevo I actually don't know if anyone of us had a cracked account....
Fun fact: the fifth column actually went after one of my friends personally and was planning on raiding our server JUST cause we were friends with her. They never did tho lol
Unemployment is crazy right?
@@monkegaming6416 ?????
@@WitchCandyVODsi assume they're calling the fifth column a bunch of unemployed losers
@@chickennugget6684 oh, yea lol
Doubt
Ogmur griefing servers "just" to teach people how to protect their servers against griefing AND giving tutorials about griefing is like shooting a school "just" to give them a lesson about strenghtening their security while also leaving propaganda to your gun store. Plus, younger players won't go into discord and learn how to code to not get griefed again, which are arguably the most vulnerable and the ones with bigger repercussions. That's simply stupid to justify griefing with such a silly answer, the guy clearly makes money from it and is just trying to disguise it as some twisted form of education.
are you comparing someone griefing a minecraft server to someone committing a school shooting?
@@proton808s i mean the scale doesn't matter. griefing is vandalism, you don't rob someone to show them how easy it is to steal their wallet. (i love using weird comparisons)
these griefers just want to destroy, to get attention, and probably to see their parents again -_-
who cares about them kids lmao
how terminally online do you have to be to develop these bots? I swear, I'm a tf2 player and it feels like some will stop at nothing just to make sure others can't have fun.
It's mental illness combined with no job or life. The last time I played TF2 every game I'd join there was some loser who had set up a bot to headshot everyone.
Idk about using these bots but developing things like these is pretty fun.
Imagine sneaking into someone's house and destroying it and then thinking "Well if I didn't do it someone else would have, so it is good that I did it."
And then the criminal proceed to explain how to effectively lock your doors after he broke in and demolished you house.
totally helpful it isn't like that info could have been given earlier when it could have been useful.
mat goes in your house and offers you a lock for your window.
shrekt goes in your house, smashes every wall, robs you, and then asks you to join his discord server to fix your window.
ran into one of these server scanner bots on a public server a while back
the bot just warned us about the potential malicious bots and left (essentially doing a PSA)
good to know there was at least one person trying to use the tech for good
EDIT: got to the anti-griefers part of the video. pretty sure it was them actually.
If I were capable of making those that's what I would've spent my time doing. It's good that you had a good bot join and not a malicious one
Why can't we just play Minecraft, have fun, hang out with friends, and be chill? Why ruin so many people's days? These aren't trolls they are straight bullies. Like griefing friends servers is fine but not innocent random servers, atleast let them make a backup.
Your exact comment is why.
this kind of reaction makes them feel big
Enable whitelist
@@kazmark_gl8652 i dont even know this guy and im laughing my ass off at his reaction
Why can't you not enable whitelist?
@@kazmark_gl8652I know these people _want_ us to be angry but that in and of itself is so messed up that I just can't help but be angry
This is happening to my servers right now. Whitelist is enabled and no single bot came through thanks to online mode, but all the attempts of connecting to the server where done with our correct active usernames. And we don't use standard ports for hosting. They are not joking, they mean it.
its actually embarrassingly sad that people spend their time doing this, imagine being this much of a disappointment
I'll.. never understand the greifer mentality. Probably the same sort of people who get off to hurting animals. : /
The best question is: why do some people have nothing better to do than Griefing random peoples private servers???!?
They're too lazy to find an anarchy server.
thats what happens when mommy and daddy don't love you
Sadism duh
no fucking idea. i don't know who has the time or patience to grief that many servers, especially since it isn't worth it.
One day, one of these griefers is going to meet a server owner IRL, and there will be consequences.
😂
Shut up
thank you for bringing more attention to this
Ayeeee skiboi
Literally what no sex and no life does to a guy...
@madvlad-pe5zmeven 19 is pushing it a bit. I'd say anyone older than 15 doing this is just incredibly immature and a horrible horrible person. If he feels okay about doing this to people online then what's stopping him doing nasty things to random people in the street.
@madvlad-pe5zmexcept they didnt program any of that, they used someone else's project to find cracked servers, change username to the owner's, then grief. They arent smart at all
real
I always learnt from very ethical people. Considering even that searching stuff was made by a 16 yo, I always was in the other hand being thought how to secure your servers, and how to protect yourself and others. Not the first time where we’ve found vulnerable servers of peers and told them “it’s not secure, you should consider making it better”
I never was in an relation also FYI, and currently 19.
early ssi community was fun, got me into moddev
Little Timmy: haha I made a snowman
*8 Terminators join*
LMAO
No server is safe until Mojang makes the necessary changes to their server security.
Exactly.
Fifth column on top
Fifth column on top!1!2!
straight facts
BASDED
Team Fortress 2 was a warning of the end times. after 6 years the bots are coming for more games. Skynet grows every day
Judgement Day is here
The problem is bad enough as it is without lying about how long it has been going on for. It has not been 6 years, quit making things up.
@@ketchup901 You could have actually tried to verify my claim instead of being confidently wrong. Search "TF2: Spot the Hacker - Cat Bot" by Maxbox. Or even "TF2: Spot the Hacker - Lag Bots". These are the earliest video examples I can find and it wasnt hard maxbox was very popular and also my personal experience from nearly 8 years playing the game.
If you host any servers, this is why you should always keep it up to date with security methods (such as online mode, whitelist, and/or security plugins) and ALWAYS make backups. I made a python script to automatically backup my servers every 6 hours, and it proved useful as my main server had every structure annihilated. Stay safe and think like a greifer when managing servers.
It's not paranoia if they're really out to get you...
Found you lol
@@Average_Minnisotan Ain't no way
Thankfully, my friends server has a firewall and whitelist. It’s very secure.
oh yes@@SomeMineGame
I actually had a bot join my private server that sent a message in the chat warning anyone that could be on to make sure to whitelist the server so that griefer bots don't get on. That server has been exclusively whitelisted since
oh, didn't realize that the bot was actually brought up at the end of the video! It was the same one that joined my server
@@NinjaOfTimesame that was really neat
8:53 this is the most stupid and self inflating excuse I've heard in my life.
13:30
Cartoon villains man.
Their profile picture says everything.
First Team Fortress 2, now Minecraft???
"I'm tired of all these bots, I'll go play Minecraft."
*Joins the game
"Oops, all bots!"
I think it just applies to cracked Minecraft, normal Minecraft is probably fine
Cracked is pirated right?
pretty much yea@@williamlyon5553
@@williamlyon5553pretty sure
Happened to us these days, turned whitelist on but with online mode disabled it had no effect, had to buy a copy of minecraft to one of my gfs (the other already had one), turned on online mode and whitelist, these stupid bots are still trying to enter, some even use our usernames, but it's funny to see them all just get disconnected and the same IP popping in the logs multiple times, this wouldn't happen if everyone had a job
maybe try changing the port in the server settings, then connecting to your server using that port?
25565 is the default port for Minecraft java
I will suggest using spigot server software and adding a password system using plugins
you can do semi online mode, im sure some plugins do so (i made my own login system to let some of my friends without minecraft bought join)
brother just use authme and do some backups it ain't that hard
The fifth column once targeted me. They accused me and my friends of being racist and other false stuff. They’re really weird tbh. But as long as you don’t give them a reaction they leave you alone. Also setup DDoS protection on your server and enable a whitelist. Then they really can’t do anything
Griefing servers like this is really just mental illness behaviour and honestly it's quite repugnant. Like what ? You have to ruin other people's fun and hard work to feel any sort of emotion ? Go touch grass, get help.
And it's not even taking into account just how dark it can be, like imagine you had a server you played on with a friend and that friend died, or is now fighting with some terminal illness or anything of that sort really, and it's was just a small community so you don't have whitelist on, because who tf would find the IP and than some random person joins and destroys everything, all the builds with the memories attached, only to than tell you like ,,well uh uh, you should have protected your server better 🤓'' or worse just get griefed by a bunch of bots, making it even less personal, just a destruction for the sake of destruction. I can guarantee you that with the amount of servers that exist, it has probably happened already, more than once, and it will happen in the future as well. This is just a sad and repugnant behaviour.
And no, none of the excuses are valid, just because someone didn't have their server protected, doesn't mean you should grief it, likewise just because you tell them how to fix their server protection, doesn't make it ok either - that would be like shooting someone in the chest and than telling them ,,well you see, you should have had a bullet proof vest''. Same with excuses like ,,if I haven't done it someone else would have'' - even if that was the case, like so ? - just because someone else might do it in the future doesn't mean it has to be you, it's like stealing things from the supermarket and saying the same thing - ,,if I haven't done it, someone else would have'' - that's not a justification, that's just an excuse to make yourself feel better about your shitty behaviour.
Griefing, especially by just destroying everything or covering it in lava is the least creative thing of all, and the fact that the kinds of people who do it have to result to that to feel any kind of emotion is honestly quite sad, I pity them. They probably live very miserable lives if this is what they resolve to to feel any kind of joy.
Griefing is still fun
@@ZondGrief I pity you
These people ether have way to much free time or literally have no goals in life outside of being as antisocial as possible and ruining other people joy thay themselves lack.
Please make sure to always keep your front door unlocked and open, even when you're on vacation.
if they cared at all, they would do what mat does, trying to warn people about their vulnerabilities. but they are here to cause damage, probably bc they need attention.
so, if you ever meet one of these people, brag about your parents!
Matscan was on our server a few months ago, right before I was logging off. I told my bf to whitelist the server a few days before but on that day I looked right over his shoulder so that he really did it! There are so many good people around and I was happy we met one that day :)
That moment when it only goes up from here.
The same tools used to scan and check servers, can also be used to check user accounts.
So you could get a bot join your server, scan you, then join every server you have connected to.
I bet something like that is probably already happening to an extent.
I don't understand why ppl grieff someone's hard work... That's just so rude, mean and unapologetically bad.
Multiple reasons. It could be a toxic coping mechanism or just psychopathic behaviour, along other stuff
Griefers will always dodge answering this fully though, and just resort to insult you in hopes to get you mad and divert the topic
@@daridon2483 Hit the nail on the head. You seem like you might know a thing or two about psychology
@@daridon2483 just goes to show really, 5 months later and this comment in particular goes unanswered. every other comment has some random asshat blowing everyone's ears off about huffing copium and staying mad.
same reason you sleep with your cousin, for fun
I think the main reason my friends and I haven't been hit been hit by any server-scanning griefing attacks is because we pretty much exclusively play modded and use custom mod sets, in addition to a whitelist.
So even if an account were compromised, the griefer would need to figure out all the mods that are on the server required on the client to connect. Too much effort to go through for most people doing this when they could just move on to the next target. The mods effectively act almost like a second whitelist.
On top of that, several of my friends who I play minecraft with are mod developers, and we often run private servers with development builds of their mods not yet available to the public, meaning in order to get in and grief they'd need to hack into the computer of someone who plays on the server (or playtests the mods otherwise) and acquire these mods that way, which is illegal and easily caught via logs if they aren't careful.
Augma: Uh, I haaave to grief servers NOW, or I WON'T be able to LATERRR! See, it's ok if I destroy the builds of innocent players just trying to enjoy their afternoon.
It's basically people that never grew out of toddler rampage
So we need to start hiring hackers to find those responsible to send viruses back to the culprits
"All the servers are being destroyed, so I want to have a chance to destroy one before they're all gone!" Reminds me of the kinds of people who go out of their way to kill endangered species because they want an opportunity to hunt one before they go extinct. At least these guys are doing it in a children's block game, I guess.
I had a bot join my game named "matscan" and it straight up said "Hi im a friendly bot .. blah blah blah... this server does not have a whitelist" then gave me stuff how to whitelist it. Never closed my server faster in my life
this happened to a group of my friends and i! several unknown people showed up at various times, but only one of them spawned any blocks. it was just a few pillars, no lava or anything, but still a very scary experience for what was supposed to be a casual romp with friends. i will never understand why people do this.
to scare dumbasses like u
Also custom modpack servers: "i don't have such weakness"
It is, generally, a poor idea to actually give out names of these sorts of people. They want the attention.
comments like these need more attention (unlike the griefers lol). these people should've been anonymised and criticised, not GIVEN A LINK TO THEIR CHANNELS IN THE DESCRIPTION.
Thanks for spreading awareness of this issue! I just finished the video and I heard of this before but didn’t think much of it but after watching this I’m thankful that you’re here to warn us. ❤
This is pretty much a good example of the game that leaves players under security vulnerability by default without any of easily sensible countermeasures. Many private servers are improperly operated and configured to prevent griefing. Mojang only made the countermeasure IF you pay them a premium, and it's not even available for Java players. It's pretty harsh and sad truth.
wtf do you mean, it's free to protect your server
I had experienced it before. I was playing with my friends on my own server and some random players started joining. Luckily I was online and immediately shut down the server. I then enable whitelist afterward to prevent it happening again.
It's actually crazy, something similar to this happened to me all the way back in 2017. I could never figure out what happened. I'm not sure if its something similar to this or not but it ruined an old SMP I was running.
Griefing for entertainment is illness
the way I see it, the people who do this never matured beyond 11-12 years old🤷♂️ it's a pretty douchbag move to go around ruining someone else's hobby because you don't have the empathy to see value in their work
Tf2 and Minecraft have something common together. Bows, rocket jumping (in Minecraft mace and wind charge) and now bots
Them griefing servers because they are "cracked" is just pathetic. Griefing people you think are in the wrong doesn't justify you being an awful person.
In the past, I disabled "online-mode" because the modpack I wanted to use was preventing players from being able to join. Does changing that setting mean I deserve to have all my stuff griefed?
Ignore the pretense of morality, they do it because they like doing it, and they especially like that people feel like shit over it.
With the last server I had before switching to bedrock, I had someone log in randomly but it was pretty wholesome.
I didn't have time to get on it that day and forgot to set up the whitelist.
When I eventually hopped on, I found a little building on the beach near spawn with a chest full of ores in it.
Someone had found the server, dug down to diamond level, branched a bit, and left me all the stuff they mined with a sign letting me know to enjoy it.
goatrd behaviour
My mc server was attacked many times in the past, it was trully a horrible expierience. So here are some advises on what to do if you have a cracked server:
1. Whitelist on
2. Add some type of authentication
3. Make so that nobody before auth has op
4. Cancel every possible event in your plugin before login
5. Make logging proccess in a diffrent mc world
6. MAKE BACKUPS !!!
Just buy the game brah 💀
@@mrbruh_officalvevo I have bought it but some of my friends did not
@@Manyah_ Piracy is illegal, either buy the game or don't play.
@@mrbruh_officalvevobruh
@@mrbruh_officalvevo tf u gon' do? call the cops on him?
I remember these griefers invaded a minecraft server me and my friends had. I was safe since I had an underwater base but everyone else's large projects and bases were all destroyed. It completely killed everyone's motivation to play on the server even when our friend did a rollback, shit sucks.
I swear the people who grief have never had something that they made destroyed for no reason
If a dude snuck into their house and lambasted their PC- which they use to grief- I would reckon they would be pretty pissed.
This is some of the most devious shit I've ever heard in my life 😭 fully automated griefing but why? What do you achieve
Some men just want to watch the world burn
10:16
Skynet and the terminators
Someone is a Terminator fan lol
On a serious note: greifing is a scumbag thing to do, but I could understand why people might find it fun
Mass griefing and automated griefing? I’m speechless at the lack of value in these people. I hope that whatever they are going through that made them this way can get better.
9:00 this is literally the kind of person the 1972 lorax movie called out
look up the scene "sitting down with myself"
people justify their actions by saying "if i didn't do them, than someone else would" and it's a horrible justification
Skynet in Minecraft wasn't on my 2024 BINGO card lol
Mojang could really have been avoiding this chaos caused by griefers by turning on all servers the whitelist option on by default and this would have not been a problem at all.
It often can be more a host issue, as they can change the config as the server is made so even if Microsoft changed it not much protection would be addrd
whitleist shoudnt be an option, you should be forced to use it, larger servers can just create automatic whitelist plugins and shit, but this would stop griefing very fast. imo mojang should also add some way to detect griefing and just delete accounts of griefers. if they run windows they should also just wipe the persons entire network
this wouldn't fix the issue for cracked servers though... and hey, i often don't use whitelist (mostly when i'm playing modded though)
@@GodOfChaos_HeXaSeems like a very levelheaded response
cool video love the "essays" its fun to listen to while playing, currently in my 2 week minecraft phase :D
Griefing is just virtual terrorism
i understand why kids would be doing this. like there is no responsibility and u wanna do stuff. and I even see the point of teaching server owners a lessonsto be more careful. like that could even teach some life lessons, be careful on the internet etc. (thought there are def better ways to go about it, and that sounded more like an excuse to do it)
but when adults do it just for sadistic fun like that one guy, it just feels like an adult going to a playground destroying sandcastles in front of kids. that just super petty
with server scanners i just join random servers and i play with them peacefully and i made some good friends and memories using them, but nowadays i instantly get banned from any server i join because so much griefers nowadays.
Its sad this keeps happening.
na who cares
@@canadian128 should u like it if a game you were playing a game with your firends for this to happen to? No then shut it, if yes why, to spit then shut it, if not then shut it all the same
Agree COMPLETELY! :/
@@jakedo2233amen. Lol. 😂
cry about it
Yeah, I had a box server in minehut and when I logged off to go to sleep, two members that looked innocent had spawned dragons, withers, and destroyed my server. I contacted Minehut and everything is fine now but this got me really scared.
I myself was scanned by matscan and server seeker, and was terrified. After matscan joined nothing happened and then some other bots started showing, one being an actual player who started spamming the anticheat logs. I thought I had whitelist enabled, but no, I had not. Since then I always make sure the whitelist is enabled.
iF Griefing is a form of trolling - entertaining then thiefs are entertaning- TheMisterEpic
If griefing is a form of trolling then stabbing is a form of acupuncture.
About a year ago this happened to the server I host for my Discord. It was in offline mode, so they logged in as one of the admins and opped their own accounts.
Luckily, I was awake at the time and I immediately stopped the server when I saw this “admin” join at a time I knew he wasn’t able to, so they didn’t get far. But after that it was no longer in offline mode + requires verifying in the Discord before being able to join the first time.