Actually, I credit Tonya Harding for the emergence of figure skating’s global popularity, despite the fact that Michelle Kwan is far more accomplished.
Okay, that 3 flip wasn't her best. And yet, the performance is terrific ! Loved her interpretation there, and that blue dress is one of my faves from hers
The absolute artistry that only Michelle Kwan could interpret with such awe inspiring expertise. I will never become tired at watching her expertise of the ice.
2:17 - she was leaning in the air on that Triple Flip (she was fortunate to land it at all in that position)! You can really see it in slow motion: 4:48.
The Queen. The GOAT. Bigger than the Olympics. A legacy all her own. No one has ever come close. Thank you, MK, for all this masterpiece. I remember watching this like it was yesterday and crying tears of joy.
Only Americans think this, Europeans or Asians don't care about Kwan that much. She is overrated, she played it safe technically many times and her jumping technique wasn't good, look at the flutz and prerotated, toe-hammered underrotated flip. Irina should have been first here easily
She was def underscored in the required elements. This sport died ( at least in he states ) after a Michelle retired. She is a legend and can never be duplicated. So under appreciated
Interesting that the exact same 3F problem occurred in her long program. In both instances, she was tilted too far forward in the air and landed too forward on the toe pick. But in the long program she couldn't recover.
Michelle landed that triple flip even though she was leaning in the air on the rotation. If she put her foot down any other way she would have missed that jump.
Ｉlove Michelle Kwan of Spiral！😍 I love Michaelle Kwan!!!! I'm Japanese, so I am not good at English. I used Google Translate. I heard from the fans of Mao Asada that spiral raised his feet slowly and it is very important and it is very difficult to slide. That's why Michelle Kwan 's and Shizuka' s and Yuna 's Spiral have low difficulty and poor, she said. Is this true!? I do not believe it!! Ｉf you'd kindly teach me.
@@jlatty06 The 3d part of her spiral, her hand position in the sit spin, and her right palm was open at her end pose. The footwork was also slightly modified; she omitted the mohawk.
it was Michelle's first- she made it iconic during her 97/98 season... "I believe this will go down in history as a signature piece for Michlle" - Peggy Fleming
she was not robbed in Nagano. In 1998 she took no technical risks, offered no triple triple combination, no jumps at the end of her program, and her step sequences were not complex. You don't win in figure skating just with academic grace and lightness
Yes Michelle is a beautiful skater , but no matter how much I watch her programs I can't figure out what all thd hype is about and how she won first place all those years. I mean I wanted to see and enjoy like everyone else..lol..but i just couldn't see what the world saw. So many other skaters ( my opinoon) are just as good . Michelle skates very carefully very few triple combo's or combo's in general ..no biellmann, her footwork and choreography are nice , but nothing spectacular. I just dont see it .
It was the whole packaging put together fairly consistently and for a very long time. Your observations are correct, but she reliably skated programs landing 6 or 7 triples for several years; most skaters rarely if ever skated a clean 7-triple program during their career. Of those who did, they beat Michelle when they skated clean and she did not, or when their jumps were more difficult, as with Lipinski at '97 Worlds and '98 Olympics and Butyrskaya at '99 Worlds. Kwan started this pattern of accomplishment by landing 7 triples as a 14 year old at '95 Worlds. Her longevity merits some of the exceptional praise she gets--not only performing at a high level but doing so for 10 years (she did lose a significant amount of technical strength by late '04-'05 but how many skaters perform at the top level for that long?) She had no glaring flaws or weaknesses during her performances except for rare instances, such as '97 Nationals where she still landed four triples. She did nearly everything at least fairly well and several things exceptionally well, such as her signature spiral (very few skaters did an inside-edge spiral at all in those days, much less one with a seamless transition to an outside edge). Comparing her to her rivals, Lipinski did have a much more difficult combination of triple jumps and was duly rewarded for this at 1997 Worlds and 1998 Olympics. Though her skating was much less mature, she still beat Michelle for gold in Nagano. I would say Slutskaya, at her best, was better than Kwan on jumps and some spins, but even there it is close--Slutskaya had a great Biellman on both feet, but Kwan had a much better sit spin. Cohen would have been another candidate for a "potentially better than Kwan" award but she rarely skated a clean long program (only one that I know of) and usually had at least one or two major falls. Slutskaya had great technical strength and speed but not nearly the grace, elegance, and effortless artistry that Kwan had. Suppose we say Slutskaya was still better than Kwan at her best, if we value the technical strength, height, speed, etc. more. That would still leave Kwan with the distinction of having begun a career of top-level international performance at an exceptionally young age and lasting longer in the group of top contenders for world-level titles. Am I missing anyone? Other than the rivals whom I considered here, and who were duly rewarded when they outskated Kwan, who else would even compete with Kwan to deserve the level of acclaim she gets?
Thanks to japanese hdtv so I could see her flutz. Her arms when jumping and air position were not really good. But her footwork and choreo were nice. I just realize that she was so slow? I think Tonya or Nancy were faster than her. Idk.
The layback spin and spiral were very beautiful but her jumps (especially the combo and triple flip) underwhelming. Not a skater who excited me a lot despite her grace.
Her control on her 2A was second to none. Her 3L combo she stayed on her back outside edge, which is more than the other skaters like S.Hughes and T.Lipinski who flutzed their way to an Olympic Gold.
I can't even watch her SP's from 98 and 2002. She should have had both golds. Stupid judges and if you don't know why I think this then learn the rules
Gym Style lmao she fell in salt late wtf do you mean she should’ve had both golds? Nagano is debatable but no way she should’ve won 2002 with the same fucking program she did in Nagano
She was deducted by most of the judges for the flip. You really can't argue about the second mark. And if anyone came close, it was Sasha Cohen, not Irina.
The technical level of the sport is continually rising. The top ladies from twenty years before Kwan’s halcyon period wouldn’t be able to compete with her either.
Mountain Lover ... Divas can be rude. What’s new? Some of them even physically hit other skaters. Ask Nancy. So forgive Kwan for being “not nice” at times.
Mountain Lover ... Hahaha. The hypocrisy. You’re actually very arrogant. And you’re not even Michelle Kwan. Yet you expect Michelle to be humble and modest at all times.
Mountain Lover ... Handed medals? And what does Michelle have on the skating organization that they felt that they need to hand her medals? 😂 So who in her generation deserved the medals Michelle received? Maria Butryskaya? Irina Slutskaya? Nicole Bobek? Chen Lu? Surya Bonaly? Because other than Irina, all the others were having a hard time completing 7 triples in their programs and completing a clean program without falling once or twice.
Mountain Lover ... Sarah and Sasha came out later after Michelle. They were the next generation. Michelle was their senior. And Sarah did beat Michelle in the Olympics. Sasha and Sarah was NEVER close as consistent as Michelle was. Especially Sasha. But she’d definitely beat Michelle if only she could complete a clean program, which RARELY happened. So how can you say that medals were just handed to Michelle? You are just hating on Michelle. She’s not arrogant at all. You’re the one who’s arrogant and you’re a nobody. I can only imagine how bitchy you are if you’ve won 9 Nationals and 5 Worlds.
![[HD] Michelle Kwan - 1998 Nagano Olympics - SP - Piano Concerto No.3 by Rachmaninoff ミシェル・クワン Кван](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3wkkqw8Xfig/mqdefault.jpg)
![[4K60P] Sasha Cohen 2002 SLC SP "My Sweet and Tender Beast"](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-1AHtzdUzKY/mqdefault.jpg)
the resolution is crazy.....thank you so much!
Agree! The Japanese as so well advanced with technology.
@@gilbertlaylay8210they had high definition in 1992! While we were still in the stone ages lol
@@Itstonytime77 Omg! You’re so right!!
BEAUTIFUL: the audience was cheering in anticipation of that spiral sequence !
MAGNIFICENT - and no doping.
I remember this like it was yesterday ...and I was 18 years old... I'm 35 years old now 🤸🏾♀️
Let’s be real, everyone. Figure skating would not be anywhere as popular worldwide as it is now if not for Michelle Kwan.
absolutely right
True that. After she left the scene, it went spiraling down. Not even Sasha could save it.
Sooooo true
Actually, I credit Tonya Harding for the emergence of figure skating’s global popularity, despite the fact that Michelle Kwan is far more accomplished.
@@thomstephens Tonya propelled it to the spotlight, but Kwan kept it there.
this resolution is out of this world! beautiful!
Okay, that 3 flip wasn't her best. And yet, the performance is terrific ! Loved her interpretation there, and that blue dress is one of my faves from hers
Yes, it's just the right shade of indigo...just warm enough and just cool enough to complement her golden complexion and it's golden beads.
She had a unique, ravishing beauty of style.
There will never be another exactly like her.
The absolute artistry that only Michelle Kwan could interpret with such awe inspiring expertise. I will never become tired at watching her expertise of the ice.
Her musicality was great. The moves went with the music.
She was always my favorite .. Always professional a credit to her sport
2:17 - she was leaning in the air on that Triple Flip (she was fortunate to land it at all in that position)! You can really see it in slow motion: 4:48.
I don’t think so, it was caused by her rushing the jump. Nerves.
This music gives me chill bumps. She nailed this performance
@Mountain Lover who are these "experts" you're referring too? Didn't she place 1st place with this performance? Lol
The Queen. The GOAT. Bigger than the Olympics. A legacy all her own. No one has ever come close. Thank you, MK, for all this masterpiece. I remember watching this like it was yesterday and crying tears of joy.
Exactamundo, could not say it better.
Only Americans think this, Europeans or Asians don't care about Kwan that much. She is overrated, she played it safe technically many times and her jumping technique wasn't good, look at the flutz and prerotated, toe-hammered underrotated flip. Irina should have been first here easily
That flip was slightly under rotated. Her toe pick slipped out and if you see the slow mo review a 1/4 rotation was done on the ice. Wow.
It looks like she was very much leaning in the air on the rotation for the Triple Flip. Quite amazing she was able to land it at all.
彼女の表現力、力強さ、そしてスパイラルどれも本当に素晴らしい👏本当に大好きです💗
That look she gives while keeping that leg up to catch the music just before the step sequence.... MAGIC!! What a beauty!!
BS hiの画質が凄すぎる。
今生でやってるのかと思うくらい。
これが19年前とは思えない。
She was def underscored in the required elements. This sport died ( at least in he states ) after a Michelle retired. She is a legend and can never be duplicated. So under appreciated
She was overscored. She should have been second or third in the short. I love her but Sasha Cohen won the Short program.
It was a beautiful program and Michelle had done so much for figure skating as now with Yuzuru Hanyu.
So thanks to Japanese TV we can see she had a flutz with full blade assist and almost 180 degree prerotation. Amazing.
she is the best of all figure skaters
No🤣🤣
Interesting that the exact same 3F problem occurred in her long program. In both instances, she was tilted too far forward in the air and landed too forward on the toe pick. But in the long program she couldn't recover.
The problem was on the takeoff. When she plants the toe pick, the boot rolls over so that she’s almost taking off from the side of the blade.
Correct, she never really toe picked. It’s usually of a flat blade
Love it !
Anyway you can do HD videos like this of her 2000, 2001 and 2003 LP's ? PRETTY PLEASE
Michelle landed that triple flip even though she was leaning in the air on the rotation. If she put her foot down any other way she would have missed that jump.
Her flip was sloppy at this time which explains the LP
UNBELIEVABLE & AMAZING PERFORMANCE OF THE PRINCESS MICHELLE KWAN...VERY DIFFICULT TO DO THOSE JUMPS...
❤❤❤ Only the finest skater Ever!!!
すげえな、この人気
中国系なのにアメリカのヒロインだもんな、ネイサンはもっと注目されるべきだと思う
Michelle Kwan is an exquisite storyteller on the ice. She to me is the greatest figure skater of all time!!!!!
The fist part of the program is Piano Trio No. 2, Piano Concerto No.3 begins with the step sequence.
Ｉlove Michelle Kwan of Spiral！😍
I love Michaelle Kwan!!!!
I'm Japanese, so I am not good at English.
I used Google Translate.
I heard from the fans of Mao Asada that spiral raised his feet slowly and it is very important and it is very difficult to slide.
That's why Michelle Kwan 's and Shizuka' s and Yuna 's Spiral have low difficulty and poor, she said.
Is this true!?
I do not believe it!!
Ｉf you'd kindly teach me.
Thanks god for the Japanese broadcasts.
She’s like she’s swimming in the space
That flip was so close. Barely got it upright.
クワンさんの衣装は全部素敵で好き❤昔のスケートは難しいジャンプは無かったけど優雅で美しかったな。
She did the exact same program here that she did in nagano
Just changed the toe jump to a flip
@@jlatty06 And the lutz entrance was different, a shortened edge coming from a mohawk instead of her long backward glide in 98
@@jlatty06 The 3d part of her spiral, her hand position in the sit spin, and her right palm was open at her end pose. The footwork was also slightly modified; she omitted the mohawk.
@@pueraeternus111 The layback position is different too ;)
@@moonlightresonance08 my fave layback of hers I think. iconic.
Michelle Kwan..compete Olympics..the brothers Grimm..🧙♀️💤💤..🐺..wolf!
Still watching it in 2024. ❤😢
That is Alexander Abt’s long program music at the same event.
it was Michelle's first- she made it iconic during her 97/98 season... "I believe this will go down in history as a signature piece for Michlle" - Peggy Fleming
20 years ago, time pass by fast
Жаль талантливую фигуристку из США, которая так и не стала олимпийской чемпионкой, хотя была много раз чемпионкой мира
記録より記憶に残る選手ですね
She got robbed at the Nagano Olympics. Here, she fairly lost.
she was not robbed in Nagano. In 1998 she took no technical risks, offered no triple triple combination, no jumps at the end of her program, and her step sequences were not complex. You don't win in figure skating just with academic grace and lightness
2:17 under rotation！！！
why 1st place？？？
In 2002 underrotation was not penalized as it is nowadays.
5:55 That's a really classy, mature reaction by Kwan there...
5.5 is worth a thumbs down. She's a legend. Chill.
yes it is because she’s the greatest .
The thumbs down at her first marks can't have given her any good will with judges.
Italian and American judges judged her 3F under-rotated ,I guess.
Bulgaria and Finland gave her a 5.7/5.9 and still made her 2nd. Italy and the US went lower on the first mark but still placed her #1.
天性の柔軟性や運動能力はリピンスキーやスルツカヤら彼女のライバル達の方が上だったと思う。だけど、一つ一つの動きが本当に丁寧で一つも気を抜くところがない表現が素晴らしい。５度の世界選手権優勝は努力の賜物だと思う。あとは真央ちゃんもそうだけど観客と一体になれる数少ない選手だった。
Yes Michelle is a beautiful skater , but no matter how much I watch her programs I can't figure out what all thd hype is about and how she won first place all those years. I mean I wanted to see and enjoy like everyone else..lol..but i just couldn't see what the world saw. So many other skaters ( my opinoon) are just as good . Michelle skates very carefully very few triple combo's or combo's in general ..no biellmann, her footwork and choreography are nice , but nothing spectacular. I just dont see it .
good things many people do understand so you’re not needed.
It was the whole packaging put together fairly consistently and for a very long time. Your observations are correct, but she reliably skated programs landing 6 or 7 triples for several years; most skaters rarely if ever skated a clean 7-triple program during their career. Of those who did, they beat Michelle when they skated clean and she did not, or when their jumps were more difficult, as with Lipinski at '97 Worlds and '98 Olympics and Butyrskaya at '99 Worlds. Kwan started this pattern of accomplishment by landing 7 triples as a 14 year old at '95 Worlds. Her longevity merits some of the exceptional praise she gets--not only performing at a high level but doing so for 10 years (she did lose a significant amount of technical strength by late '04-'05 but how many skaters perform at the top level for that long?) She had no glaring flaws or weaknesses during her performances except for rare instances, such as '97 Nationals where she still landed four triples. She did nearly everything at least fairly well and several things exceptionally well, such as her signature spiral (very few skaters did an inside-edge spiral at all in those days, much less one with a seamless transition to an outside edge). Comparing her to her rivals, Lipinski did have a much more difficult combination of triple jumps and was duly rewarded for this at 1997 Worlds and 1998 Olympics. Though her skating was much less mature, she still beat Michelle for gold in Nagano. I would say Slutskaya, at her best, was better than Kwan on jumps and some spins, but even there it is close--Slutskaya had a great Biellman on both feet, but Kwan had a much better sit spin. Cohen would have been another candidate for a "potentially better than Kwan" award but she rarely skated a clean long program (only one that I know of) and usually had at least one or two major falls. Slutskaya had great technical strength and speed but not nearly the grace, elegance, and effortless artistry that Kwan had. Suppose we say Slutskaya was still better than Kwan at her best, if we value the technical strength, height, speed, etc. more. That would still leave Kwan with the distinction of having begun a career of top-level international performance at an exceptionally young age and lasting longer in the group of top contenders for world-level titles. Am I missing anyone? Other than the rivals whom I considered here, and who were duly rewarded when they outskated Kwan, who else would even compete with Kwan to deserve the level of acclaim she gets?
それほど難しいことはやっていないけれども、個人的にクワンを超えるスケーターは未だ現れず…です。
Thanks to japanese hdtv so I could see her flutz. Her arms when jumping and air position were not really good. But her footwork and choreo were nice. I just realize that she was so slow? I think Tonya or Nancy were faster than her. Idk.
It was a slow and cautious skate. She wasn't in a very good form. Look at her Worlds 2001 free skate and you will see the difference
I agree. This SP was slow and flat compared to her 98 performance at Nationals
@@flywings111 yes!
The layback spin and spiral were very beautiful but her jumps (especially the combo and triple flip) underwhelming. Not a skater who excited me a lot despite her grace.
Her control on her 2A was second to none. Her 3L combo she stayed on her back outside edge, which is more than the other skaters like S.Hughes and T.Lipinski who flutzed their way to an Olympic Gold.
I don’t know why she was so skinny that year and very nervous.
За технику оценки могли быть и выше.
Deserved a 6.0
コーエン2位も3人いたんだよな
One judge's decision...
Poor Jennifer Robinson had to skate after that lol
I can't even watch her SP's from 98 and 2002. She should have had both golds. Stupid judges and if you don't know why I think this then learn the rules
Gym Style lmao she fell in salt late wtf do you mean she should’ve had both golds? Nagano is debatable but no way she should’ve won 2002 with the same fucking program she did in Nagano
She was lucky to be first after this short program. Should have been 3rd behind Slutskaya and Sasha with this slow, recycled performance.
1998's robbery was repeated in 2014. Nonetheless Kim and Kwan are legends.
Are you aware that Michelle's coach said Tara was better in Nagano and deserved the gold medal? Let that sink in and then move on.
She was deducted by most of the judges for the flip. You really can't argue about the second mark. And if anyone came close, it was Sasha Cohen, not Irina.
3F
the new judging ruined the sport. this wouldn't even be top 8 today
Anthony Pepe ...I’ve always wondered what changed and what made her skating obsolete.
The technical level of the sport is continually rising. The top ladies from twenty years before Kwan’s halcyon period wouldn’t be able to compete with her either.
@@TT-ee4qp And? Not sure what that has to do with my comment.
Her dad got on my nerves ...
How arrogant she was in the kiss and cry...
She’s Michelle Kwan. 9 times National Champion. 5 times World Champion. So yes. She can be arrogant.
Mountain Lover ... Divas can be rude. What’s new? Some of them even physically hit other skaters. Ask Nancy. So forgive Kwan for being “not nice” at times.
Mountain Lover ... Hahaha. The hypocrisy. You’re actually very arrogant. And you’re not even Michelle Kwan. Yet you expect Michelle to be humble and modest at all times.
Mountain Lover ... Handed medals? And what does Michelle have on the skating organization that they felt that they need to hand her medals? 😂 So who in her generation deserved the medals Michelle received? Maria Butryskaya? Irina Slutskaya? Nicole Bobek? Chen Lu? Surya Bonaly? Because other than Irina, all the others were having a hard time completing 7 triples in their programs and completing a clean program without falling once or twice.
Mountain Lover ... Sarah and Sasha came out later after Michelle. They were the next generation. Michelle was their senior. And Sarah did beat Michelle in the Olympics. Sasha and Sarah was NEVER close as consistent as Michelle was. Especially Sasha. But she’d definitely beat Michelle if only she could complete a clean program, which RARELY happened. So how can you say that medals were just handed to Michelle? You are just hating on Michelle. She’s not arrogant at all. You’re the one who’s arrogant and you’re a nobody. I can only imagine how bitchy you are if you’ve won 9 Nationals and 5 Worlds.
No coach ....deserved bronze
Flip was pre- and underrotated. Step persisted of three turns and mowhawks (prebronze level) and she was very slow. Boring program.
sasha cohen is better
Totally agree with you.
RrkmMr Sasha Cohen is Caca
No.
Ya right , not even close.
Judges didn't think so. So what do you know¿
트리플플립 심각한 회전부족, 다운그레이드 수준
totally overscored.
Her short program should be 2nd place, and if this happened, she might have been less nervous in the long program.