Break The ICE | ICE Panels vs SIPs
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- ICE Panels and SIP Panels share some distinct similarities, but there are also some significant differences between the two as well. Follow along as we compare these two building products and discuss why ICE Panels are the better option for achieving peak energy efficiency.
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I got the GSBP ICE in our build. It was a warm winter
Steel resist moisture…? Hein…
Wood will last just as long as steel as long as the house is built properly and moisture doesn't get in. Since so many passive houses are built with sips, the thermal bridging is not an issue. This video is industry talk designed to sell you a product, not educate you. Not that this is a bad product (compared to traditional building its probably great), but it's basically another SIPS panel.
The ICE Panel may be similar to a SIP's product, however it functions quite differently. There is no thermal bridging which will reduce/stop moisture and condensations issues are eliminated. In any building method, it is good to use basic building practices to make sure this won't occur. There are other benefits to consider with the ICE Panels such as R-value, shorter build times, air tightness and less waste on site.
@@GreenstoneBuildingProducts all of the benefits you're describing are essentially the same as SIPS. You have a continuous insulative layer with high r value and no thermal bridging. This is able to provide an airtight shell for the house (when installed correctly). Rather than an outside layer of OSB or CLT, you have steel. There may be a structural advantage to this over OSB, but I'm sure there's also a price difference too.
@@grantcrawford823 Many sips have wood frame inside to carry load down - so often can have bridging. Other SIPS can accept a SIP Spline but not all actually have continuous insulation.
The fact that the SIP acronym is explained at the start, but at no point is it explained what ICE stands for.
Why don't you have video's on installing the ICE panels showing how easy it is, all you video's are only about how great your product is.
Thanks for the feedback! Have you checked out our Build It With Greenstone playlist? It includes videos demonstrating how to build with ICE Panels. We also have testimonials of builders speaking about the benefits of ICE Panels. Here are a few videos that will answer some common questions:
How To Install Electrical - ua-cam.com/video/FZMSfOBYk7E/v-deo.html
Builder Testimonial: ua-cam.com/video/MSb2iSEpa_k/v-deo.htmlsi=bRsbC7_qKBL8hCua
Build It With Greenstone Playlist - ua-cam.com/play/PLKq_5LV-AddWIwDWC9dMjPB9JpaHFEHIO.html
Testimonial Playlist - ua-cam.com/play/PLKq_5LV-AddWOKSc958Tndc5Cm-_KAb6R.html
Is this the same panels that Thermasteel is promoting?
Hey there! No, these are ICE Panels produced in Brandon, MB. Thermasteel is a similar product to ours but produced in the US.
Always like to hear about new technology but don't like it when it comes with biased information about the competition. This seemed more like watching a USA political ad. Sorry.
There is nothing new here . ICE panels have been on the market since 1970 and now they will prevail anything on a market due to labor shortage
Just a moment here. You still need to sheath the house with ICE panels and that is going to be a lumber product like OSB with a WRB over it then siding. Not giving the ICE panel hate over SIP, but you're being a bit disingenuous about your prioritizing of one over the other. Also if the frame is not stick built I.E. Timber framed then SIPS takes any thermal drift out of the equation.
OSB sheathing is only required with ICE Panels when the engineer deems it necessary due to structural requirements. In most cases, sheathing is not needed. Also, ICE Panels are thermally broken, so there will be no thermal drift with an ICE Panel envelope.
@@MrBrussell17 I've been researching this. Does your product meet residential code in Minnesota for wind? That was my concern. Yes, the ICE panel was going to be good for thermal drift. I was giving an example of how SIPs can be used to also take thermal drift out of the equation. I'd still have concerns about creatures like insects getting past the WRB and easily being able to penetrate the foam whereas a SIPS with a factory applied WRB such as Huber ZIP can be taped/ flashed and made air/ water tight as well then have the foam behind in addition for a secondary level of protection. That isn't to say your system isn't also a fantastic product. I'm just asking about other things that I cannot find information about online.
@@koryleach9660 These are great questions. We have yet to complete a project in Minnesota, so we are unsure of how ICE Panels align with building codes specific to that area. Here is a direct link to our QAI listing which covers all the testing data: qai.org/directory/greenstone-building-products-ltd/.
Steel joints run much colder than wood joints. That's a fact so, she lied about that aspect of ICE panels.
ICE Panels are thermally broken because the steel studs don’t penetrate through the wall stopping the cold temperature from entering the building through the envelope.
If wood is so bad, why do I see wood trusses and floor decking? How do you modify the ICE panel? All means and methods will require some modification.
ICE Panels are prefabricated in our manufacturing plant, so no onsite modifications are needed. Feel free to call 204-726-1426 with any other questions. Thanks!
@@GreenstoneBuildingProducts I don't believe you addressed my comment or question. Why use wood trusses? Heat rises.
In my view as a property owner in a neighborhood with frequent gun violence, is that ICFs are bulletproof and SIPs are not. I may use SIPs for the roof though.
Who the f.. wants to build houses in that area?
@@andreycham4797 So far it only happens at night. With a bulletproof house it becomes less of a concern.